Speaker 1: On scor Lives Ostrodya. This is the Reader Panalty Show.
Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Panehy Show. We
Speaker 2: have a packed program for you tonight. We'll be crossing
Speaker 2: live to the Hague where US President Donald Trump is
Speaker 2: due to holday press conference.
Speaker 3: Anytime now, we'll bring you that live.
Speaker 2: Trump is in the Netherlands for the NATO summit, where
Speaker 2: European leaders have rolled out the red carpet for the
Speaker 2: US President, and we have a stellar lineup of guests
Speaker 2: for you tonight to discuss the day's top stories. Joining
Speaker 2: me are John Henderaker, Josh Hammer, Professor Max Abrams, and
Speaker 2: Peter Hassen covering all.
Speaker 3: The latest from NATO.
Speaker 2: But no matter what is happening around the world, we
Speaker 2: always make time for lefties losing it, and tonight the
Speaker 2: President had his say on the worst lefty media outlets.
Speaker 4: Shean Eda scums, he has scum.
Speaker 5: The New York Times has scme.
Speaker 2: They're bad people, They're sick, As I said, Donald Trump
Speaker 2: will be speaking shortly from.
Speaker 3: The NATO summit in the Netherlands. We did hear from
Speaker 3: the President.
Speaker 2: Earlier today, just a few hours ago, with NATO Secretary
Speaker 2: General Mark Rutter and the Secretary General had nothing but
Speaker 2: praise for the President.
Speaker 6: I just want to recognis you were the stage affection.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: You were a man of strength, which you're also a
Speaker 1: man of peace, and the fact that you were an
Speaker 1: old also successful in getting this sase fire done between
Speaker 1: Israel and Iram. I really want to.
Speaker 7: Command you for that.
Speaker 2: Now, NATO countries are expected to endorse higher defense spending,
Speaker 2: with a goal of five percent of GDP being devoted
Speaker 2: to defense.
Speaker 8: I've been asking them to go up to five percent
Speaker 8: for a number of years, and they're going up to
Speaker 8: five percent from two percent, and a lot of people
Speaker 8: don't even prepare the two percent. So I think it's
Speaker 8: going to be a very big news. NATO is going
Speaker 8: to become very strong with us.
Speaker 2: Let's bring in Newsweek's senior editor at Large and Article
Speaker 2: three senior Project Council Josh Hamma. Josh, it looks like
Speaker 2: the red carpet has been rolled out for the president.
Speaker 2: We're not hearing any more nonsense about the President being
Speaker 2: a threat to NATO. He only ever wanted the NATO
Speaker 2: partners to pull their weight and spend more on defense,
Speaker 2: and they're agreeing to do that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, read A.
Speaker 9: It's hard from my perspective to night distance or it's
Speaker 9: hard to separate this red carpet rollout that the President
Speaker 9: is currently receiving over in the Hague. It's hard to
Speaker 9: distance that from Operation Midnight Hammer in a riot. And
Speaker 9: I'll explain that for the following reason, which is that
Speaker 9: that was an unmitigated reminder I think Tonido, to the
Speaker 9: Western World, to the free World, whatever verbia you would like,
Speaker 9: it was an unmitigated reminder that America is still here.
Speaker 9: America is still here in America still means business on
Speaker 9: the world stage, and America is still going to assert
Speaker 9: its priorities in xyz ways there. To me, these two
Speaker 9: things are actually directly related. I mean, think back to
Speaker 9: Jdvan's speech at the Muniing Security Conference back back in February.
Speaker 9: There the Europeans were not particularly pleased with a lot
Speaker 9: of what JD.
Speaker 6: Evans had to say.
Speaker 9: You can you compare and contrast that back in February
Speaker 9: to this red carpet now with the NATO summit now there,
Speaker 9: it seems to me like the Europeans and NATO at
Speaker 9: large are starting to wake up and remember that America
Speaker 9: is still the big, the big elephant in the room.
Speaker 9: But to your point, yes, it's really not a particularly
Speaker 9: big ask, is it that these countries contribute to their
Speaker 9: own national defense? That is the basic MAGA America first
Speaker 9: nationalist realist perspective. As a geopolitics and form relations in general,
Speaker 9: Donald Trump does not want these various independent nations, let
Speaker 9: alone the European Union, as a collective block. He doesn't
Speaker 9: want them to be far flung American provinces or satrapy
Speaker 9: of the global American Empire. He wants them to be free,
Speaker 9: independent and flourishing nation states. And the only way that
Speaker 9: they can do that is if they contribute efficiently to
Speaker 9: their own self defense. The final thing they'll say is
Speaker 9: that this is all kind of part of a long
Speaker 9: term plan for the United States to ideally shift its
Speaker 9: resources to the Indo Pacific, which is a long time
Speaker 9: in the making there to deal with our number one threat,
Speaker 9: the Chinese Communist Party. The goal here is to try
Speaker 9: to build up the European powers to take care of
Speaker 9: their own backyard, namely lamer Putin and the Kremlin.
Speaker 2: Now, Josh, we also heard from Marco Rubio earlier today,
Speaker 2: and he is none too happy with some anonymous deep
Speaker 2: state hack trying to undermine what Operation Midnight Hammer achieved.
Speaker 10: Now, anything in the world can be rebuilt, but now
Speaker 10: we know where it is and they try to rebuild it,
Speaker 10: we'll have options there as well. But all this leaker stuff,
Speaker 10: these leakers are professional stabbers, that's what they are. They
Speaker 10: go out and they read this stuff and then they
Speaker 10: tell you what it says against the law, but they characterize.
Speaker 5: It for you in a way that absolutely faults.
Speaker 10: There's no way Iran comes to the table of somehow
Speaker 10: nothing had happened. This was complete and total obliteration.
Speaker 2: Josh, what of this report that claims that Iran's nuclear
Speaker 2: program has only suffered a minor setback.
Speaker 9: So it's worth noting, Rita that the reporter who first
Speaker 9: got this scoop from this leaker, Natasha Bertrand, is the
Speaker 9: same reporter who was first responsible for trying to dismiss
Speaker 9: the Hunter Biden laptop back in October of twenty twenty
Speaker 9: as so called Russian disinformation. So that should be a first, major,
Speaker 9: major gargantuan red flag is that the original source of
Speaker 9: this leaker is not a particularly trustworthy source. To put
Speaker 9: a mildly there, but I think what's happening here at
Speaker 9: Rita is you have a lot of people in the
Speaker 9: deep state of the intelligence community in the United States
Speaker 9: that are not merely probably sympathetic towards the Irani regime,
Speaker 9: are not merely hostile and opposed to America's ally Israel.
Speaker 9: They're probably opposed to the United States itself. They're definitely
Speaker 9: opposed a lot of these deep state bureaucrats and the intelligenmuis.
Speaker 9: They're definitely opposed to President Donald J.
Speaker 6: Trump.
Speaker 9: So if you're trying to undermine and throw Donald J.
Speaker 9: Trump under the bus, what is the easiest way to
Speaker 9: do so, other than to dismiss this spectacular military operation
Speaker 9: and say that immlily just set it back by a
Speaker 9: few months. Now, the Israeli is what it's worth. My
Speaker 9: understanding is that their intelligence is that the Iranian nucer
Speaker 9: program was set back at least by multiple years. Maybe
Speaker 9: it was not literally obliterated for here and there in
Speaker 9: all time. But here's what I'll say Ria, for the
Speaker 9: United States, the Iranians are obviously a major threat for Israel.
Speaker 9: It's an existential threat. So if Israel was willing to
Speaker 9: agree to the ceasefire, which they were. That says a lot.
Speaker 9: That means they were very satisfied with with what actually
Speaker 9: happened on Midnight Hammer.
Speaker 2: Now, Josh, let's hear from Donald Trump's Special envoy to
Speaker 2: the Middle A Stave Witkough. He spoke to Fox News
Speaker 2: earlier today about a possible new deal with Iran.
Speaker 11: We're already talking to each other, not just directly but
Speaker 11: also through interlock you tours. I think that the conversations
Speaker 11: are promising. We're hopeful that we can have a long
Speaker 11: term peace agreement that raise that resurrecs Iran, that brings
Speaker 11: it into the League of Nations.
Speaker 3: Josh, is that realistic?
Speaker 2: Could we have a long term piece still on the table,
Speaker 2: one that the Iranians will actually abide by?
Speaker 9: Red I've been critical at times of Steve Wikoff. I'm
Speaker 9: not entirely sure that he is that he is sober enough. Frankly,
Speaker 9: when it comes to some of the actors that he
Speaker 9: is sitting down at the negotiating table with and the Iranians,
Speaker 9: that the Mullahs are are probably the number one example
Speaker 9: of that. I mean, this is one of the greatest
Speaker 9: problems going back two and a half, three, maybe even
Speaker 9: four decades is that these people are the most sniveling, lying, Yeah,
Speaker 9: the biggest wires and the things of the earth. Frankly,
Speaker 9: for lack of bear description there, I mean, you simply
Speaker 9: cannot trust them to abide by anything remotely resembled the
Speaker 9: words that are written on a piece of paper. This
Speaker 9: is one of the myriad flaws of Barack Obama's JCPOA
Speaker 9: nuclear deal back in twenty fifteen. Is one of the
Speaker 9: reasons why I was skeptical of these repeated rounds of
Speaker 9: American diplomacy earlier on in this second administration.
Speaker 6: There is that you simply cannot trust.
Speaker 9: These people, which, by the way, also raised the question
Speaker 9: as to how you can expect them to abide by
Speaker 9: the actual ceasefire. Thus far, it seems like it's actually
Speaker 9: going very well in the very very very early stages here,
Speaker 9: so God willing that will hold there. But color me
Speaker 9: profoundly skeptical that this current regime, with this current leadership
Speaker 9: can be brought into the League of Nations, the Western
Speaker 9: panoply there. Look, I would love nothing less, I would
Speaker 9: love to be proven wrong there. I just simply do
Speaker 9: not see it happening. It's just not in the nature
Speaker 9: of who these people are. It's simply, it simply defies
Speaker 9: human nature and human reality.
Speaker 2: Now, staying with NATO, the Ukrainian President Voladimir Zelenski, he's
Speaker 2: arrived at the summit and interestingly he's wearing a suit, Josha,
Speaker 2: But I think he wants to annoy President Trump again.
Speaker 2: But on a more serious note, the end of the
Speaker 2: Russian Ukraine will must be a top priority for the
Speaker 2: President at this meeting.
Speaker 9: Oh, I think it's a number one priority. I think
Speaker 9: it is easily his top priority at this current meeting. There,
Speaker 9: Donald Donald Trump campaigned over and over and over again
Speaker 9: on getting a diplomatic off ramp, on getting a ceasefire
Speaker 9: to the Russia Ukraine War, a war that has gone
Speaker 9: on for way too long. You know, the media reports
Speaker 9: incessantly about the various conflicts in the Middle East. All
Speaker 9: the wars in the Middle East combined over the past
Speaker 9: three three and a half years pale in comparison, frankly,
Speaker 9: to the carnage and the death toll there in Eastern Europe.
Speaker 6: This has been a horrific, brutal war.
Speaker 9: The country of Ukraine has been set back by at
Speaker 9: least a half century, if not more. Talking about all
Speaker 9: the young men and women who have been killed, people
Speaker 9: who have fled. It's just awful. It's absolutely awful, and
Speaker 9: ultimately for what gain. I still kind of sometimes struggle
Speaker 9: to answer that question to myself there. So this is
Speaker 9: an absolute pressing priority for President Donald Trump. I'm inclined
Speaker 9: to think based on what we were just saying about
Speaker 9: this new REDI carpet treatment, this new agreement by some
Speaker 9: of the European powers to vow to raise their defense
Speaker 9: panding to five percent of GDP, I'm optimistic that maybe,
Speaker 9: just maybe the European powers are willing to play ball
Speaker 9: here and try to convince both Zolenski and Putin to
Speaker 9: get and sit down at the negotiating table. Look, for
Speaker 9: a while, Rita, I thought that there was more pressure
Speaker 9: that was needed on Zelenski there. At this point, I
Speaker 9: think that probably more pressure is currently need on Putin
Speaker 9: because the Russians have not slowed down at all. People
Speaker 9: are dying in Key of Ukraine on a basically nightly
Speaker 9: basis there. So we'll see, I mean, Trump's gonna have
Speaker 9: to be a little tougher.
Speaker 6: At the moment on Putin. Let's see what kind of
Speaker 6: sanctions are in the works there.
Speaker 9: But he's gonna do everything he can to try and
Speaker 9: get a peace deal that I know for sure.
Speaker 2: Now, just quickly to other news, we had the Democratic
Speaker 2: Socialist Zoran Mandani. He declared victory today in the New
Speaker 2: York City Democratic mayoral primary.
Speaker 3: An astonishing development, Josh.
Speaker 2: This man is a radicol and given the demographics of
Speaker 2: New York City, is likely to be the next mayor.
Speaker 9: What a catastrophe, you know, I was. I was born
Speaker 9: and raised in the New York suburbs. I still have
Speaker 9: a lot of family. Most of my family is still
Speaker 9: there in the broader New York City area. I mean,
Speaker 9: what an unmitigated catastrophe to to have a young thirty
Speaker 9: something year old socialist, a defund the police, defund ice
Speaker 9: kind of craze, far left, pseudo Marxist lunatic. I mean,
Speaker 9: what could possibly go wrong? I mean, New York City
Speaker 9: is still, in theory the beacon of American power when
Speaker 9: it comes to finance and technology and trade and this
Speaker 9: and that there. Look, I would expect a lot of industry,
Speaker 9: of banks, maybe even stock exchanges to start making a
Speaker 9: slow egress and exit out of New York in the
Speaker 9: years to come, and this is actually the way that
Speaker 9: that New Yorkers want to ultimately control their own sovereignty
Speaker 9: and the destiny of this. If this is what they
Speaker 9: want to do, then I think that that capital and
Speaker 9: business will respond in cond The one thing that I
Speaker 9: will add readA as a Floridian is that you know,
Speaker 9: I've Florida's close. I'm I'm not sure how many of
Speaker 9: these I'm not sure how many more of these flee
Speaker 9: New Yorkers. How we want to come down here to
Speaker 9: the Sunshine State. But you know, look joking aside there,
Speaker 9: I genuinely do expect that there will be pretty severe
Speaker 9: repercussions and ravocations when it comes to business and capital
Speaker 9: trying to flee New York. It is an unmitigate catastrop
Speaker 9: for New York City.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, I think property prices in places like Tennessee
Speaker 2: and Texas.
Speaker 3: And Florida are going to skyrocket.
Speaker 2: We've already got any flux of New Yorkers going into
Speaker 2: those states, and I think that's going to increase. But
Speaker 2: just on this particular character, he appears to have a
Speaker 2: bit of the Kamalas about him.
Speaker 3: Have a listened to this.
Speaker 7: On the subject of trust, You've adopted different speaking accents
Speaker 7: in different scenarios, but.
Speaker 5: They go to their local bodega.
Speaker 3: Is there one that's real and one that's affected?
Speaker 12: What I would say is, as any immigrant knows, having
Speaker 12: been born in Kampala, Uganda and then raised in South
Speaker 12: Africa and moving here when I'm seven years old, is
Speaker 12: there different parts of my life? World?
Speaker 5: I Joy is a world way, Joy is a world
Speaker 5: wad 'mon done?
Speaker 11: He was talking about a worldwide press tour back when
Speaker 11: he was.
Speaker 3: A rapper fish in a Disney movie directed by his
Speaker 3: mother clot Nepotism and hard work goes a long way, Josh,
Speaker 3: I am lost for words. What can you say?
Speaker 2: New York Because they keep voting for this, you can
Speaker 2: hardly feel sorry for them. They keep voting for these
Speaker 2: types of characters. Josh, Amma, thank you so much for
Speaker 2: your time. Let's bring in Peter Hassen. Now he's the
Speaker 2: Washington Free Beacon editor. Peter Donald Trump's going to be
Speaker 2: speaking soon at NATO, but we've heard from him earlier today,
Speaker 2: and we also heard from the NATO Secretary General Mark Rutta,
Speaker 2: and he's been full of praise for the President. He
Speaker 2: wrote a text President Trump saying Donald, you have driven
Speaker 2: us to a really really important moment for America and
Speaker 2: Europe and the world. You will achieve something no American
Speaker 2: president in decades could get done.
Speaker 3: This is all very.
Speaker 2: Different, Peta, to the sort of atmosphere that greater Donald
Speaker 2: Trump during his first term when he really didn't get
Speaker 2: a warm reception at NATO.
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, I think that goes to one of
Speaker 13: the clear differences between Trump's first term and his second
Speaker 13: term is that Trump's first term was treated as a
Speaker 13: joke or an aberration by you know, elites, not just
Speaker 13: in the US but all over the world.
Speaker 5: That's something that they shouldn't have to take seriously.
Speaker 13: Whereas now Donald Trump's second term, it's very clear that
Speaker 13: he's here to stay. The MAGA movement is here to stay,
Speaker 13: and it's something to be taken seriously. And he is,
Speaker 13: you know, here's someone who keeps tabs on how people
Speaker 13: treat him and how people treat the country, and so
Speaker 13: I think he expects a certain amount of respect for
Speaker 13: world leaders.
Speaker 5: I think they're finally starting to catch up.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's something our Prime minister has found
Speaker 2: out the hard way. He and some of his senior
Speaker 2: ministers have said some uncomplimentary things about the President in
Speaker 2: the past, and guess what our Prime minister hasn't been
Speaker 2: able to secure what on one meeting with the President
Speaker 2: thus far. So this is I think, yes, something to
Speaker 2: remember that he has a very long memory. Now here
Speaker 2: is praise for the President from an unlikely source, former
Speaker 2: Biden National Security Council Coordinator for the Middle East, Brett McGirk.
Speaker 3: He had this to say on CNN.
Speaker 6: Look, bottom line, this is about the best place we
Speaker 6: can be.
Speaker 14: I give extremely high marks to this national security team
Speaker 14: and President Trump for managing this crisis and given where
Speaker 14: we are.
Speaker 5: But now let's follow through. There's a chance for diplomacy.
Speaker 2: Here and Peter, while there are Democrats who are pushing
Speaker 2: to impage Donald Trump for these strikes against Iran's nuclear sides,
Speaker 2: there were one hundred and twenty eight Democrats which joined
Speaker 2: the Republicans to block a bit bid to impeach the president.
Speaker 2: We only had seventy nine Democrats voting to proceed with
Speaker 2: an impeachment vote.
Speaker 3: What does that tell you, Peter?
Speaker 13: That tells me that the Democratic leadership is is fully
Speaker 13: aware of how out of touch the progressive base that
Speaker 13: has gotten with the rest of the country.
Speaker 5: I mean to even float an impeachment for that is
Speaker 5: wildly out of bouts.
Speaker 13: When you have Nancy Pelosi is saying it's not something
Speaker 13: to be taken seriously, and Nancy Pelosi is the last
Speaker 13: person that anybody is going to accuse of being too
Speaker 13: soft on Trump. When you have heard saying that this
Speaker 13: is a step too far, that really tells you all
Speaker 13: you need to know. But at the same time, you
Speaker 13: know that is kind of a sign of where their
Speaker 13: party is going in the long term. Is the AOC
Speaker 13: wing of the party and I think we saw that
Speaker 13: with so Ron Mondannie's win in the primary last night.
Speaker 13: It's as clear of a sign as it is that,
Speaker 13: you know, as out of step as the progressive wing
Speaker 13: may be, that is the direction that the party's voters
Speaker 13: wants them to go.
Speaker 2: Peter Hasson, thank you so much for your time, and
Speaker 2: we're just gonna go to a quick break because we
Speaker 2: expect to hear from Donald Trump on the other side.
Speaker 3: I'll see you in a couple of minutes.
Speaker 2: You're watching the Rider Panny Show, and it's time for
Speaker 2: lefties losing it and they've done it now.
Speaker 3: Daddy's mad.
Speaker 2: It's bad enough that the president has to deal with
Speaker 2: lefties losing it on networks like CNN and MSNBC, networks
Speaker 2: pumping out Li's hysteriaan Hate twenty four to seven.
Speaker 3: But the Commander in Chief was also fed up.
Speaker 2: With an ally and FO failing to live up to
Speaker 2: eight piece still and they all copped it, starting with
Speaker 2: the lefty media outlets.
Speaker 5: You know what they're doing.
Speaker 12: They're really hurting great pilots that put their lives in
Speaker 12: the line. CNN is scum and so is MSDNC. They're
Speaker 12: all and frankly, the networks aren't much better. It's all fakeders.
Speaker 12: But they should not have done that. Those pilots hit
Speaker 12: their targets. Those targets were obliterated, and the pilots should
Speaker 12: be given credit. Then not after the pilots are after me.
Speaker 12: They want to try and to meet you. I think
Speaker 12: CNN or to apologize to the pilots, the v twos.
Speaker 12: I think that MSD and co to apologize. I think
Speaker 12: these guys really, these networks are these cable networks are
Speaker 12: real losers? You really are? You're realizing.
Speaker 3: Your real losers?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes you are, CNN and MSNBC. Or was he
Speaker 2: calling them MSN DC. Well, frankly, he was just warming
Speaker 2: up gutless losers.
Speaker 12: I say that to CNN because I watch it. I
Speaker 12: have no choice. I gotta watch that garbage. It's all garbage,
Speaker 12: it's all fake news. But I think CNN is a
Speaker 12: gutless group of people and the people that run it.
Speaker 12: Nobody even knows. It's been sold so many times, but
Speaker 12: the people that run it out to be a shame.
Speaker 12: MSD and C again named Brian Roberts. He heads it.
Speaker 12: He's a disgrace. He's a weak, pathetic disgrace.
Speaker 2: Just fantastic stuff and well deserved. I'll show you shortly
Speaker 2: what inspired that spray. But the President was not done yet.
Speaker 2: We're going to have a look at one of the
Speaker 2: greatest moments in Donald Trump's presidency thus far, a moment
Speaker 2: that will go down in history. And this moment is
Speaker 2: significant for a number of reasons. The substance of his comments,
Speaker 2: the manner in which it was delivered, and the confidence
Speaker 2: is inspired.
Speaker 3: This is a leader, not a politician.
Speaker 15: Do you believe that a run We need to see it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 12: They violated it, but Israel violated it too. Israel. As
Speaker 12: soon as we made the deal, they came out and
Speaker 12: they dropped the load of Bob's the likes of which
Speaker 12: I've never seen before, the biggest load that we've seen.
Speaker 12: I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, okay,
Speaker 12: now you have twelve hours, you don't go out in
Speaker 12: the first hour and just drop everything you have on them.
Speaker 4: So I'm not.
Speaker 12: Happy with them. I'm not happy with the Ron either,
Speaker 12: But I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out this morning
Speaker 12: because the one rocket that didn't land, that was shot
Speaker 12: perhaps by mistake, that didn't land, I'm not happy about that.
Speaker 12: You know what we have to basically have two countries
Speaker 12: that have been fighting so long and so hard that
Speaker 12: they don't know what they're doing. Do you understand that.
Speaker 2: Outstanding outstanding, and that sent a message. There was no
Speaker 2: forceful retaliation by Israel and none further by Iran for now,
Speaker 2: and folks from both sides.
Speaker 3: Of the political divide appreciated.
Speaker 2: The honesty, the transparency of the moment, but not this
Speaker 2: blow hard. Let's hear from possibly the dumbest man on
Speaker 2: British radio, James O'Brien.
Speaker 1: The aftermath of an attack upon nuclear facilities and Keith
Speaker 1: did my ears deceive me? I think what's clear is
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump doesn't know what the bleep is going?
Speaker 15: All right?
Speaker 1: Can we agree on that?
Speaker 2: No, we can't agree on that, you contemptible simpleton, just
Speaker 2: like we don't agree on this defamatory set of lies
Speaker 2: about the president. Perhaps it will sue LBC fe like
Speaker 2: he did ABC. That cost ABC a pretty penny, Yes
Speaker 2: he did. How much might this little rand cost James
Speaker 2: O'Brien's employer.
Speaker 1: But as it is, it's the self confessed sex offender
Speaker 1: who you're cheering for his attitude towards transgender women. It's
Speaker 1: a self confessed sex offender, the guy who boasts about
Speaker 1: grabbing women by their genitals.
Speaker 3: Did he say he grabbed them without their consent?
Speaker 2: Pretty sure he didn't say that, James. But let's get
Speaker 2: back to what had the president ropeable in the past
Speaker 2: twenty four hours, And it was reporting like this.
Speaker 3: Here is CNN.
Speaker 2: Reporting as gospel leaked to them by some desperate, hacked
Speaker 2: and anonymous low level loser from the Deep State, if
Speaker 2: I may quote the Press secretary.
Speaker 14: There essentially looking at the images and looking at what
Speaker 14: was actually damaged. The Defense Intelligence Agency has assessed that
Speaker 14: the components of Iran's nuclear program are largely intact, and
Speaker 14: that Iron's nuclear program has essentially only been set back
Speaker 14: by months.
Speaker 2: Sure, Jan just months nuclear sides bomb to Smitherines just
Speaker 2: set back a few months. Here is how dishonest CNN
Speaker 2: can be had their only objective is to damage Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: Let's have a look at this.
Speaker 2: Presenter, Aaron Burnett, first claiming last week that there was
Speaker 2: no need to bomb Iran's nuclear sides because there were
Speaker 2: years away from developing a weapon, if indeed Iran even
Speaker 2: wanted a weapon.
Speaker 7: This timeline of Iran being a few weeks away from
Speaker 7: a nuclear bomb is in direct contradiction to CNN's reporting.
Speaker 7: According to US intelligence assessments, Iran is three years away
Speaker 7: from being able to produce a nuclear weapon if they
Speaker 7: wanted to. So the facts on Iran getting a nuclear
Speaker 7: weapon do not bear out the claim at the heart
Speaker 7: of what has put the world on the verge of
Speaker 7: World war World.
Speaker 3: War hyperboly much.
Speaker 2: Here is the same activist journalists less than a week
Speaker 2: later saying the American strikes only put back Iran's nuclear
Speaker 2: weapon ambitions by a matter of months.
Speaker 7: Only set back the Iranian nuclear program by months.
Speaker 3: We got to call it like it is. It's a
Speaker 3: big deal, unbelievable.
Speaker 2: And here is sin in Aaron Burnett again claiming that
Speaker 2: those chanting death to America in.
Speaker 3: Iran are actually really friendly.
Speaker 2: Well, perhaps they're friendly to her because she's the very
Speaker 2: definition of a useful idiot.
Speaker 7: They're chanting death to America all around me, even as
Speaker 7: I say, oh, I'm an American reporting for CNN, and
Speaker 7: they were happy to speak to me. So those two
Speaker 7: sort of jarring realities of the chant and yet the
Speaker 7: friendliness have existed together, Nawanda.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump gave them made outlets another big serve earlier
Speaker 2: today during this press conference at the Hague.
Speaker 1: You had some great reporters, but you have scum.
Speaker 4: CNN is scum, MSDS is scum. The New York Times
Speaker 4: is scum. They're bad people, They're sick. And what they've
Speaker 4: done is they're trying to make this unbelievable victory into
Speaker 4: something worse.
Speaker 2: And we will be crossing to the NATO summit shortly
Speaker 2: to hear from President Trump.
Speaker 3: That press conference has.
Speaker 2: Been delayed because the President is having a private meeting
Speaker 2: with the Ukrainian leader, President Zelenski, and as soon as
Speaker 2: that press conference is underway, we will be crossing life
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 3: But joining me now.
Speaker 2: Is the president of the Center of the American Experiment,
Speaker 2: John Heindereiker.
Speaker 3: John, you don't hear straight.
Speaker 2: Talk like that from a politician too often. What was
Speaker 2: your reaction when you heard that raw commentary on Iran
Speaker 2: and Israel break the ceasepy do, Rita?
Speaker 16: We've all gotten used to this. There's never been a
Speaker 16: president in our history and very few political leaders who
Speaker 16: who talk like that. But we're used to it now
Speaker 16: and it doesn't shock us anymore. And frankly, it's hard
Speaker 16: not to agree with the substance of what Trump said.
Speaker 16: He's done a wonderful job here. He's devastated Iran's nuclear program,
Speaker 16: which was a serious threat to US as well as
Speaker 16: to Israel and others. He's brought about a ceasefire now
Speaker 16: between Israel and Iran, and the left can't stand it,
Speaker 16: you know, they hate success, and so this is what
Speaker 16: Trump gets so irate about.
Speaker 3: And what do you make.
Speaker 2: Of the claims that these strikes did little to hurt
Speaker 2: Iran's ability to develop nuclear weapons? Do you put any
Speaker 2: credibility to those claims?
Speaker 12: None?
Speaker 16: Rita A big problem we have in American government is
Speaker 16: that when we have a Republican president, Democrats the bureaucracy
Speaker 16: will continually leak things that they think are damaging to
Speaker 16: the president. Now they might be true, they might be
Speaker 16: completely false, but the media treats it like gospel, you know,
Speaker 16: because it's a leak, that means it must be true.
Speaker 16: And that's what's going on here. Somebody somewhere in the
Speaker 16: Intelligence Committee leaked a claim that, well, maybe there wasn't
Speaker 16: so much damage after all, but we really don't know.
Speaker 16: I think it's blindingly obvious. You drop those bunker busting bombs,
Speaker 16: you drop thirty Tomahawk missiles on Iran. We've all seen
Speaker 16: the photographs of what these areas look like. The damage
Speaker 16: that was done was absolutely enormous. And I think Trump
Speaker 16: is right to be angry at these news outlets and
Speaker 16: this leaker on behalf of the pilots and the military
Speaker 16: people who carried out the attack.
Speaker 2: And he really does seem to be genuinely angry about
Speaker 2: this one. I mean, he has all sorts of lies.
Speaker 2: In Hyssyrian high herbally said about his administration on a
Speaker 2: daily basis, But I've seldom seen him John take something
Speaker 2: so personally and so personally on behalf of those involved
Speaker 2: in this operation.
Speaker 16: Yeah, that's exactly right, reader. I would add one more thing.
Speaker 16: You know, some of the Democrats in Congress are complaining
Speaker 16: that Trump didn't give them any advance notice about the attack.
Speaker 16: Why didn't you tell Congress before? And Well, the answer
Speaker 16: is if he had done that, the Democrats in Congress
Speaker 16: would have leaked it. They would have destroyed the secrecy
Speaker 16: of the attack. That's the state of politics at America.
Speaker 2: Reader, Well, yeah, the element of surprise would have been lost,
Speaker 2: but I have no doubt that some Democrats would have
Speaker 2: leaked it. Now we've seen Joe Biden's National Secretary Council
Speaker 2: Coordinator for the Middle East, Brett McGirk, praise the president's
Speaker 2: decisive action against Iran, but there hasn't been any such
Speaker 2: praise from Biden's Secretary of State and Anthony Blincoln.
Speaker 3: He's condemned the.
Speaker 2: Strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities, who wrote a piece for
Speaker 2: The New York Times and he said the strikes on
Speaker 2: three of Iran's nuclear facilities by the United States was
Speaker 2: unwise and unnecessary. What do you make of that criticism?
Speaker 2: John Blinken is not happy with the President for tearing
Speaker 2: up the nuclear deal with Iran.
Speaker 16: Well, Anthony Blinkett is a hardcore Democratic Party partisan. He's
Speaker 16: the guy who organized the fifty one former intelligence officials
Speaker 16: commonly referred to as the Dirty fifty one to lie
Speaker 16: about Hunter Biden's laptop and the information it contained about
Speaker 16: Joe Biden. They knew it was genuine, but to help
Speaker 16: Joe Biden get elected, they organized this effort to lie
Speaker 16: about it. And Anthony Blinken is the number one guy
Speaker 16: who did that. So nothing that he says should be
Speaker 16: taken seriously. You know that Obama Plan, I think almost
Speaker 16: everyone agrees now it was a joke. He gave Iran
Speaker 16: billions of dollars, they signed a piece of paper, and
Speaker 16: they kept on working on enriching uranium. The UN Agency
Speaker 16: said over and over again, they're cheating. They're not disclosing
Speaker 16: that the Obama Joint Plan of Action was a fiasco,
Speaker 16: and I think almost everyone realizes that.
Speaker 2: Now, Let's have a look at some polling on how
Speaker 2: Americans feel about this issue, about how they feel on
Speaker 2: Iran having nuclear weapons. Let's listen to san An's polling
Speaker 2: expert Harry.
Speaker 15: Enton, there's more support for Donald Trump's positions than is
Speaker 15: comically acknowledged opposer Iran getting a nuclear weapon. I mean,
Speaker 15: look at this, seventy nine percent of adults agree on
Speaker 15: that they agree with Donald Trump and Ron cannot get
Speaker 15: a nuclear weapon, eighty three percent of Republicans, seventy nine
Speaker 15: percent of Independence, seventy nine percent of Democrats. When you
Speaker 15: get seventy nine percent of Democrats and eighty three percent
Speaker 15: of Republicans agreeing on anything, you know that that position
Speaker 15: is the very clear majority in this country.
Speaker 2: Wow, that is surprising that you've got almost identical numbers
Speaker 2: across the board. That rarely happens on any issue.
Speaker 16: John, It almost never happens, Rita. We're so divided in America.
Speaker 16: But what it shows is that people realize this is
Speaker 16: a major national security issue. We don't want to get
Speaker 16: hit with a nuclear bomb by Iran. And I mean,
Speaker 16: there's not a big minority on that issue. I see
Speaker 16: other polling Rita that people who identify themselves as MAGA Republicans,
Speaker 16: which is Trump's real base, over ninety percent support the
Speaker 16: action that he's taken here in Iran. The idea that
Speaker 16: there's a big division and the American people over this.
Speaker 16: It just isn't true.
Speaker 2: Now, as for the strikes against Iran, we do know
Speaker 2: there are many Republicans unhappy about the US's involvement. But
Speaker 2: though they are loud and some of them are very influential,
Speaker 2: there minority in the Republican Party.
Speaker 15: There's this idea. Okay, maybe the MAGA base wouldn't necessarily
Speaker 15: like this. Look, this is Donald Trump's Republican Party. That's
Speaker 15: why I think is so important to note GOP on
Speaker 15: the US air strikes in a run, seventy six percent
Speaker 15: in the average of the two Poles approved, compared to
Speaker 15: just eighteen percent who disapproved. Now, well, note that is
Speaker 15: a bit higher than Donald Trump's disapprove a rating within
Speaker 15: the Republican Party. But overall Republicans are with Donald Trump
Speaker 15: on this.
Speaker 3: John Harry is right there.
Speaker 2: This is now Donald Trump's Republican Party, and the base
Speaker 2: will go with him, even if they're a little bit
Speaker 2: uncomfortable about the direction he's varying.
Speaker 17: It.
Speaker 16: As long as things go, well, he's not going to
Speaker 16: lose any of that support. I don't think there's any
Speaker 16: prospect of US ground troops in Iran. I don't think
Speaker 16: there's any prospect of this somehow going bad, sort of
Speaker 16: like a rock did in two thousand and six. And
Speaker 16: as long as things continue to go well, he's going
Speaker 16: to have overwhelming support from American people, and especially overwhelming
Speaker 16: support from the Republican Party.
Speaker 2: How how is he going domestically. We have spent so
Speaker 2: much time looking at how he's performing in foreign affairs,
Speaker 2: But on those Corey shoes that he won the election on.
Speaker 2: There were the cultural war issues, there was the immigration
Speaker 2: crisis and inflation.
Speaker 3: Is he on top of those issues? I think he is.
Speaker 16: Reading Number one, He pledged to close the border. The
Speaker 16: Democrats said, oh no, it can't be done. When he
Speaker 16: closed the border, in a matter of weeks, illegal immigration
Speaker 16: has stopped. I mean it's come to virtually zero, and
Speaker 16: now they're carrying out deportations starting with the most dangerous
Speaker 16: criminal illegal aliens. He's got broad support for those actions
Speaker 16: throughout the American public. I think one thing that's important
Speaker 16: to keep our eye on is the so called Big
Speaker 16: Beautiful Bill, this massive spending bill that extends the tag
Speaker 16: cuts from Trump's first term that otherwise are going to
Speaker 16: expire at the end of the year. That has passed
Speaker 16: the House. It's working its way through the Senate in
Speaker 16: slightly different form. We're told the Senate is probably going
Speaker 16: to pass it by July fourth, and if they do
Speaker 16: and it gets signed into law, this is going to
Speaker 16: be the big win domestically of Donald Trump's first year.
Speaker 3: John Heinerecher, It's always a pleasure.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time tonight, and don't
Speaker 2: go anywhere after the break. Anthony Albanize is said to
Speaker 2: meet with Gijiping again for the fourth time, and yet
Speaker 2: he can't get that one on one meeting with President Trump.
Speaker 3: And we will hopefully be crossing to.
Speaker 2: The President in the Netherlands as he speaks to the press.
Speaker 2: Welcome back. We are still waiting to hear from the President,
Speaker 2: waiting with the rest of the wor world with baited breath, tour.
Speaker 3: Here from President Trump.
Speaker 2: He is at the NATO summit in the Netherlands, and
Speaker 2: we will cross to the summit as soon as that
Speaker 2: press conference is underway. But joining me now is international
Speaker 2: security expert and professor of political science at Northeastern University,
Speaker 2: Max Abrams.
Speaker 3: Max, welcome back to the program.
Speaker 2: I wanted to get your reaction to Donald Trump's comments
Speaker 2: earlier today regarding the success of the Iranian strike. He
Speaker 2: refuted very strongly these claims that Operation Midnight Hammer did
Speaker 2: little to damage Iran's nuclear ambitions.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 17: Well, there are two different views on this. I certainly
Speaker 17: am of the opinion that both the Americans and has
Speaker 17: realized did substantial damage to Iran's nuclear program. That seems
Speaker 17: to be the possession of Israeli intelligence. The Americans. Also,
Speaker 17: the head of the IAEA has said that there's been
Speaker 17: significant damage. Plus, I just trust the science. I mean,
Speaker 17: you drop fourteen of those massive bunker busters. We've seen
Speaker 17: in the photographic imagery that the hits were directly on target.
Speaker 17: Now you can't see, you know, a huge blast, but
Speaker 17: that's because the bombs actually penetrate through the mountain, and
Speaker 17: I suspect that they're increasingly we're going to get confirmation
Speaker 17: that whatever was underneath or nearby those bombs was taken out. Trump,
Speaker 17: of course, has a lot of haters, and he is
Speaker 17: haters even within his own administration. This story has been
Speaker 17: pumped out by CNN and The New York Times despite
Speaker 17: the science, actually the nuclear weapons program remains intact. As
Speaker 17: an empiricist, I'll continue to watch wherever the evidence leads,
Speaker 17: but at this point I think that Donald Trump is
Speaker 17: most likely correct.
Speaker 2: It's been amusing to watch CNN, in particular, I played
Speaker 2: some clips earlier in the program where the same reporter
Speaker 2: last week is claiming the Iranians are years away from
Speaker 2: any sort of nuclear capacity, and then she's saying, well,
Speaker 2: they've only been set back a couple of months. They
Speaker 2: could still have a weapon in a couple of months.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a picolaid. But Donald Trump's success in
Speaker 2: handling the conflict in the Middle East has earned him
Speaker 2: another Noble Peace Prize nomination. We discussed on the program
Speaker 2: earlier this week, the nomination that came from Pakistan for
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. He's received another one today from US representative
Speaker 2: Body Kata, though.
Speaker 3: Max, I don't think he is likely to win an.
Speaker 2: Award that appears these days to be reserved exclusively for
Speaker 2: the political left.
Speaker 17: I've been very happy with Trump's handling of the Iran conflict.
Speaker 17: He's gotten all sorts of advice, and I think that
Speaker 17: he rejected a lot of advice and picked the best
Speaker 17: path forward. There were many people who said that, you
Speaker 17: know that the United States shouldn't attack at all. There
Speaker 17: were other people saying the United States should not just
Speaker 17: attack the nuclear weapons program, but should go even further
Speaker 17: into topple the regime in Tehran. I think he picked
Speaker 17: the best path by attacking the nuclear sites, but also
Speaker 17: knowing not to go too far. There are many Americans,
Speaker 17: I think very understandably who didn't want another regime change war,
Speaker 17: and in that sense, he rejected the neocons, but he
Speaker 17: also rejected many of the so called realists who didn't
Speaker 17: want the United States to do anything at all. And
Speaker 17: it seems like that both the Americans and Israelis have
Speaker 17: done substantial damage to the nuclear program without having American
Speaker 17: fingerprints on a country that could really go or rye.
Speaker 17: I'm not at all sympathetic to the regime in Tehran,
Speaker 17: but when there's a regime change war, it becomes extremely unpredictable,
Speaker 17: as we've seen in Libya, as we saw in Iraq,
Speaker 17: and so for that reason I do think that Trump
Speaker 17: should get a Nobel Peace Prize.
Speaker 12: Well.
Speaker 2: I do believe Iran is different from Libya and Iraq
Speaker 2: for a number of reasons. But you are one hundred
Speaker 2: percent right about Donald Trump being really trying to appease
Speaker 2: both sides of his party here, and he spoke earlier
Speaker 2: today about not pushing for regime change in Iran. He
Speaker 2: just said he doesn't want to have the chaos that
Speaker 2: that would bring. I want to ask you though about
Speaker 2: matts closer to home for US in Australia, there are
Speaker 2: reports that our Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi could have another
Speaker 2: meeting with Jijiping. This would be his fourth meeting, but
Speaker 2: he has so far not managed to secure a meeting
Speaker 2: with President Trump. Max, do you see the US Australia
Speaker 2: relationship as being strained in any way? We do know
Speaker 2: that the Albanesi government's attitude to Israel hasn't always been
Speaker 2: pleasing for the US, and neither has some of the
Speaker 2: things that the Prime Minister and some of his ministers
Speaker 2: have had to say over the years about President Trump himself.
Speaker 17: You know, that's a little bit outside of my wheelhouse.
Speaker 17: I focus more on on the Middle East terrorism stuff,
Speaker 17: so I don't want to misspeak about that. I'm really
Speaker 17: not sure.
Speaker 2: No, No, I appreciate I appreciate you saying that that is.
Speaker 2: That is, Yet we're always interested in how you married
Speaker 2: toxic the relationship.
Speaker 3: That's why I love having you on the program.
Speaker 17: One thing I do want to ask you.
Speaker 3: Is the main I know you've personally been.
Speaker 2: Well, yes, I want to ask you about that because
Speaker 2: I know you've been a victim of the rise in
Speaker 2: anti Semitism in America and American university campuses.
Speaker 3: We've spoken about that in the past. How do you
Speaker 3: feel about.
Speaker 2: A man who wants to globalize the Intervada winning New
Speaker 2: York City's democratic mayoral primaries or men? Dammy, well, he
Speaker 2: looks said to be mayor. New York City is a
Speaker 2: very blue area. This man could be the next mayor
Speaker 2: of New York.
Speaker 17: I think that the war on terrorism is officially over
Speaker 17: when it looks like the mayor of New York City
Speaker 17: could be an open supporter of the global into Fada.
Speaker 17: He wants to bring the war in Gaza home. And
Speaker 17: this is just so appalling to me. I'm from the Northeast.
Speaker 17: We were particularly affected by you know, nine to eleven,
Speaker 17: and it is just crazy that in the city of
Speaker 17: the World Trade Center towers, it looks like it's quite
Speaker 17: possible that the mayor could be an advocate for antifada
Speaker 17: inside of the United States. It seems to me that
Speaker 17: that's the last thing that the United States or any
Speaker 17: Western countries need is more extremism. This alliance between the
Speaker 17: far left in the islamis so I think that this
Speaker 17: is deeply troubling. I think that this is a bigger
Speaker 17: concern than just New York. I think it's indicative of
Speaker 17: the direction of the Democratic Party and where the United
Speaker 17: States and so many other Western countries are going.
Speaker 2: Well, let's have a look at a clip from a
Speaker 2: popular streamer called Sneaker. He explains why he voted for
Speaker 2: this character.
Speaker 7: I supported him because he's the only non Zionist candidate
Speaker 7: on that stage.
Speaker 3: I thought you needed to be bond and solved.
Speaker 16: But people are energetic, people aren't tired of the Zionism,
Speaker 16: and I'm excited.
Speaker 6: To see what he's got.
Speaker 3: I'm not a socialist myself.
Speaker 6: I don't want everyone to be a communist get free stuff.
Speaker 16: But I think, yes, some cool.
Speaker 2: Ideas, and I've heard that over and over again. I
Speaker 2: don't know how prevalent it was amongst his supporters, but
Speaker 2: there seemed to be this anti Zionist sentiment max as
Speaker 2: much as all the radical economic policies this character is
Speaker 2: putting forward.
Speaker 17: I think that it's really problematic because he is very
Speaker 17: well known for being anti Zionist. He started up a
Speaker 17: student group when he was younger in college, Students for
Speaker 17: Justice and Palestine, and they're not just pro Palestine, but
Speaker 17: many of them are really quite extremist. Simultaneously, he calls
Speaker 17: for a reduction in the police force, and so I
Speaker 17: would expect to see and you can quote me on this,
Speaker 17: I would expect to see a rise in violence in
Speaker 17: New York City. Yes, again the large Jewish population, but
Speaker 17: even more broadly against New Yorkers. What's also really worrisome
Speaker 17: is that he is depicting himself as a mainstream Democrat politician.
Speaker 17: And indeed the strategists, some of sort of like the
Speaker 17: Democrat establishment political strategists of Biden and Kamala agree and
Speaker 17: they say, yes, this guy is the future of the
Speaker 17: Democratic Party. He is an important model for Democrats to follow.
Speaker 17: And again that makes this a much bigger issue than
Speaker 17: just what's going on locally in New York. It makes
Speaker 17: it a national issue and arguably even an international issue.
Speaker 17: With the global Intofada, there are so many countries around
Speaker 17: the West that are suffering from this kind of extremism,
Speaker 17: and apparently he wants to bring that to New York
Speaker 17: City as well.
Speaker 13: Well.
Speaker 2: We've seen that sort of politics normalized, haven't we In
Speaker 2: the last few years. We had the Squad and they're
Speaker 2: as a radical as you will see, and they seem
Speaker 2: to have some of the loudest voices amongst the Democrats
Speaker 2: now who are sort of ruddless. So could this be
Speaker 2: what we expect to see from the Democrats going forward?
Speaker 2: This radical wing really setting the agenda.
Speaker 17: Absolutely, And the one benefit I could think is there
Speaker 17: could be some sort of dialectical process where you know,
Speaker 17: traditional Democrats look at this kind of extremism and they say,
Speaker 17: you know what, this isn't the party that I used
Speaker 17: to support. So hopefully some of them will flake off
Speaker 17: and enjoin what I consider to be the more sane party.
Speaker 17: I wouldn't even be surprised if some people move out
Speaker 17: of New York City because you know, with rising crime
Speaker 17: and all sorts of other problems that this socialist mayor
Speaker 17: would bring, it could lead to some you know, larger transitions.
Speaker 2: Now we are just waiting to hear from President Trump.
Speaker 3: He's a little bit late with.
Speaker 2: His press conference, but we'll be crossing to it shortly,
Speaker 2: expecting him in the next couple of minutes, Max, what
Speaker 2: would you see as a successful NATO summit for the president.
Speaker 2: Does he need to secure substantial increases in defense spending
Speaker 2: from the NATO partners.
Speaker 17: The irony is that Trump's critics have long accused him
Speaker 17: as being, you know, a Russian agent or a Russian asst,
Speaker 17: in cahoots with Russia, soft on Russia, and yet it's
Speaker 17: Trump who has substantially revitalize NATO. NATO isn't worth much
Speaker 17: if member states are not actually taking money from their
Speaker 17: national economies and building up this military alliance. And it
Speaker 17: already seems to be the case that he has scored
Speaker 17: crucial successes in raising the member state contributions from two
Speaker 17: percent to the projected five percent. He's sometimes accused of
Speaker 17: being anti NATO, but he's actually really good for NATO,
Speaker 17: and the fact that he is there really shows his
Speaker 17: commitment to this important alliance.
Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing so many of his critics
Speaker 2: miss about Donald Trump. And there's plenty from the conservative
Speaker 2: side who also missed the particularly conservative commentators in the West.
Speaker 3: He's all about outcomes, Max.
Speaker 2: He's willing to say some harsh things about NATO that
Speaker 2: people will say it puts the alliance at risk, and
Speaker 2: it's a threat to NATO. But what he's trying to
Speaker 2: do is to get increase spending to actually strengthen NATO.
Speaker 2: And that's the end result. With Trump, it's not about
Speaker 2: the retric.
Speaker 3: It's not about the tactics. It's all about outcomes.
Speaker 17: That's true. I mean, rhetorically, he has threatened to distance
Speaker 17: himself in the United States from NATO if member states
Speaker 17: don't get their act together. But that message actually seems
Speaker 17: to have worked.
Speaker 2: Okay, Professor Max Abrams, I'm going to have to thank
Speaker 2: you for your time because we're going to cross to
Speaker 2: the hag now and hear from President Donald Trump.