1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: On scor Lives Ostrodya. This is the Reader Panalty Show. 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,159 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Panehy Show. We 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: have a packed program for you tonight. We'll be crossing 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: live to the Hague where US President Donald Trump is 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 2: due to holday press conference. 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 3: Anytime now, we'll bring you that live. 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: Trump is in the Netherlands for the NATO summit, where 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: European leaders have rolled out the red carpet for the 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: US President, and we have a stellar lineup of guests 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: for you tonight to discuss the day's top stories. Joining 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: me are John Henderaker, Josh Hammer, Professor Max Abrams, and 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: Peter Hassen covering all. 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: The latest from NATO. 14 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: But no matter what is happening around the world, we 15 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: always make time for lefties losing it, and tonight the 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: President had his say on the worst lefty media outlets. 17 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 4: Shean Eda scums, he has scum. 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 5: The New York Times has scme. 19 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 2: They're bad people, They're sick, As I said, Donald Trump 20 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: will be speaking shortly from. 21 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 3: The NATO summit in the Netherlands. We did hear from 22 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: the President. 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: Earlier today, just a few hours ago, with NATO Secretary 24 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: General Mark Rutter and the Secretary General had nothing but 25 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: praise for the President. 26 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 6: I just want to recognis you were the stage affection. 27 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 4: Thank you. 28 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: You were a man of strength, which you're also a 29 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: man of peace, and the fact that you were an 30 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: old also successful in getting this sase fire done between 31 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: Israel and Iram. I really want to. 32 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 7: Command you for that. 33 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: Now, NATO countries are expected to endorse higher defense spending, 34 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: with a goal of five percent of GDP being devoted 35 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: to defense. 36 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 8: I've been asking them to go up to five percent 37 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 8: for a number of years, and they're going up to 38 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 8: five percent from two percent, and a lot of people 39 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 8: don't even prepare the two percent. So I think it's 40 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 8: going to be a very big news. NATO is going 41 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 8: to become very strong with us. 42 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: Let's bring in Newsweek's senior editor at Large and Article 43 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: three senior Project Council Josh Hamma. Josh, it looks like 44 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: the red carpet has been rolled out for the president. 45 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: We're not hearing any more nonsense about the President being 46 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 2: a threat to NATO. He only ever wanted the NATO 47 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 2: partners to pull their weight and spend more on defense, 48 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: and they're agreeing to do that. 49 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, read A. 50 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 9: It's hard from my perspective to night distance or it's 51 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 9: hard to separate this red carpet rollout that the President 52 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 9: is currently receiving over in the Hague. It's hard to 53 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 9: distance that from Operation Midnight Hammer in a riot. And 54 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 9: I'll explain that for the following reason, which is that 55 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 9: that was an unmitigated reminder I think Tonido, to the 56 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 9: Western World, to the free World, whatever verbia you would like, 57 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 9: it was an unmitigated reminder that America is still here. 58 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 9: America is still here in America still means business on 59 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 9: the world stage, and America is still going to assert 60 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 9: its priorities in xyz ways there. To me, these two 61 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 9: things are actually directly related. I mean, think back to 62 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 9: Jdvan's speech at the Muniing Security Conference back back in February. 63 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 9: There the Europeans were not particularly pleased with a lot 64 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 9: of what JD. 65 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 6: Evans had to say. 66 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 9: You can you compare and contrast that back in February 67 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 9: to this red carpet now with the NATO summit now there, 68 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 9: it seems to me like the Europeans and NATO at 69 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 9: large are starting to wake up and remember that America 70 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 9: is still the big, the big elephant in the room. 71 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 9: But to your point, yes, it's really not a particularly 72 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 9: big ask, is it that these countries contribute to their 73 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 9: own national defense? That is the basic MAGA America first 74 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 9: nationalist realist perspective. As a geopolitics and form relations in general, 75 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 9: Donald Trump does not want these various independent nations, let 76 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 9: alone the European Union, as a collective block. He doesn't 77 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 9: want them to be far flung American provinces or satrapy 78 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 9: of the global American Empire. He wants them to be free, 79 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 9: independent and flourishing nation states. And the only way that 80 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 9: they can do that is if they contribute efficiently to 81 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 9: their own self defense. The final thing they'll say is 82 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 9: that this is all kind of part of a long 83 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 9: term plan for the United States to ideally shift its 84 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 9: resources to the Indo Pacific, which is a long time 85 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 9: in the making there to deal with our number one threat, 86 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 9: the Chinese Communist Party. The goal here is to try 87 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 9: to build up the European powers to take care of 88 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 9: their own backyard, namely lamer Putin and the Kremlin. 89 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: Now, Josh, we also heard from Marco Rubio earlier today, 90 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 2: and he is none too happy with some anonymous deep 91 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: state hack trying to undermine what Operation Midnight Hammer achieved. 92 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 10: Now, anything in the world can be rebuilt, but now 93 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 10: we know where it is and they try to rebuild it, 94 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 10: we'll have options there as well. But all this leaker stuff, 95 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 10: these leakers are professional stabbers, that's what they are. They 96 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 10: go out and they read this stuff and then they 97 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 10: tell you what it says against the law, but they characterize. 98 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 5: It for you in a way that absolutely faults. 99 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 10: There's no way Iran comes to the table of somehow 100 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 10: nothing had happened. This was complete and total obliteration. 101 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 2: Josh, what of this report that claims that Iran's nuclear 102 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 2: program has only suffered a minor setback. 103 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 9: So it's worth noting, Rita that the reporter who first 104 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 9: got this scoop from this leaker, Natasha Bertrand, is the 105 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 9: same reporter who was first responsible for trying to dismiss 106 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 9: the Hunter Biden laptop back in October of twenty twenty 107 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:37,239 Speaker 9: as so called Russian disinformation. So that should be a first, major, 108 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 9: major gargantuan red flag is that the original source of 109 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 9: this leaker is not a particularly trustworthy source. To put 110 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 9: a mildly there, but I think what's happening here at 111 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 9: Rita is you have a lot of people in the 112 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 9: deep state of the intelligence community in the United States 113 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 9: that are not merely probably sympathetic towards the Irani regime, 114 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 9: are not merely hostile and opposed to America's ally Israel. 115 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 9: They're probably opposed to the United States itself. They're definitely 116 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 9: opposed a lot of these deep state bureaucrats and the intelligenmuis. 117 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 9: They're definitely opposed to President Donald J. 118 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 6: Trump. 119 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 9: So if you're trying to undermine and throw Donald J. 120 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 9: Trump under the bus, what is the easiest way to 121 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 9: do so, other than to dismiss this spectacular military operation 122 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 9: and say that immlily just set it back by a 123 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 9: few months. Now, the Israeli is what it's worth. My 124 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 9: understanding is that their intelligence is that the Iranian nucer 125 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 9: program was set back at least by multiple years. Maybe 126 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 9: it was not literally obliterated for here and there in 127 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 9: all time. But here's what I'll say Ria, for the 128 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 9: United States, the Iranians are obviously a major threat for Israel. 129 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 9: It's an existential threat. So if Israel was willing to 130 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 9: agree to the ceasefire, which they were. That says a lot. 131 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 9: That means they were very satisfied with with what actually 132 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 9: happened on Midnight Hammer. 133 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: Now, Josh, let's hear from Donald Trump's Special envoy to 134 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,239 Speaker 2: the Middle A Stave Witkough. He spoke to Fox News 135 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 2: earlier today about a possible new deal with Iran. 136 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 11: We're already talking to each other, not just directly but 137 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 11: also through interlock you tours. I think that the conversations 138 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 11: are promising. We're hopeful that we can have a long 139 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 11: term peace agreement that raise that resurrecs Iran, that brings 140 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 11: it into the League of Nations. 141 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 3: Josh, is that realistic? 142 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: Could we have a long term piece still on the table, 143 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: one that the Iranians will actually abide by? 144 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 9: Red I've been critical at times of Steve Wikoff. I'm 145 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 9: not entirely sure that he is that he is sober enough. Frankly, 146 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 9: when it comes to some of the actors that he 147 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 9: is sitting down at the negotiating table with and the Iranians, 148 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 9: that the Mullahs are are probably the number one example 149 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 9: of that. I mean, this is one of the greatest 150 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 9: problems going back two and a half, three, maybe even 151 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 9: four decades is that these people are the most sniveling, lying, Yeah, 152 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 9: the biggest wires and the things of the earth. Frankly, 153 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 9: for lack of bear description there, I mean, you simply 154 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 9: cannot trust them to abide by anything remotely resembled the 155 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 9: words that are written on a piece of paper. This 156 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 9: is one of the myriad flaws of Barack Obama's JCPOA 157 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 9: nuclear deal back in twenty fifteen. Is one of the 158 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 9: reasons why I was skeptical of these repeated rounds of 159 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 9: American diplomacy earlier on in this second administration. 160 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 6: There is that you simply cannot trust. 161 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 9: These people, which, by the way, also raised the question 162 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 9: as to how you can expect them to abide by 163 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 9: the actual ceasefire. Thus far, it seems like it's actually 164 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 9: going very well in the very very very early stages here, 165 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 9: so God willing that will hold there. But color me 166 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 9: profoundly skeptical that this current regime, with this current leadership 167 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 9: can be brought into the League of Nations, the Western 168 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 9: panoply there. Look, I would love nothing less, I would 169 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 9: love to be proven wrong there. I just simply do 170 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 9: not see it happening. It's just not in the nature 171 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 9: of who these people are. It's simply, it simply defies 172 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 9: human nature and human reality. 173 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: Now, staying with NATO, the Ukrainian President Voladimir Zelenski, he's 174 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 2: arrived at the summit and interestingly he's wearing a suit, Josha, 175 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 2: But I think he wants to annoy President Trump again. 176 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: But on a more serious note, the end of the 177 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: Russian Ukraine will must be a top priority for the 178 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 2: President at this meeting. 179 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 9: Oh, I think it's a number one priority. I think 180 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 9: it is easily his top priority at this current meeting. There, 181 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 9: Donald Donald Trump campaigned over and over and over again 182 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 9: on getting a diplomatic off ramp, on getting a ceasefire 183 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 9: to the Russia Ukraine War, a war that has gone 184 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 9: on for way too long. You know, the media reports 185 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 9: incessantly about the various conflicts in the Middle East. All 186 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 9: the wars in the Middle East combined over the past 187 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 9: three three and a half years pale in comparison, frankly, 188 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 9: to the carnage and the death toll there in Eastern Europe. 189 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 6: This has been a horrific, brutal war. 190 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 9: The country of Ukraine has been set back by at 191 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 9: least a half century, if not more. Talking about all 192 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 9: the young men and women who have been killed, people 193 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 9: who have fled. It's just awful. It's absolutely awful, and 194 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 9: ultimately for what gain. I still kind of sometimes struggle 195 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 9: to answer that question to myself there. So this is 196 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 9: an absolute pressing priority for President Donald Trump. I'm inclined 197 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 9: to think based on what we were just saying about 198 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 9: this new REDI carpet treatment, this new agreement by some 199 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 9: of the European powers to vow to raise their defense 200 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 9: panding to five percent of GDP, I'm optimistic that maybe, 201 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 9: just maybe the European powers are willing to play ball 202 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 9: here and try to convince both Zolenski and Putin to 203 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 9: get and sit down at the negotiating table. Look, for 204 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 9: a while, Rita, I thought that there was more pressure 205 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 9: that was needed on Zelenski there. At this point, I 206 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 9: think that probably more pressure is currently need on Putin 207 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 9: because the Russians have not slowed down at all. People 208 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 9: are dying in Key of Ukraine on a basically nightly 209 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 9: basis there. So we'll see, I mean, Trump's gonna have 210 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:31,479 Speaker 9: to be a little tougher. 211 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 6: At the moment on Putin. Let's see what kind of 212 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 6: sanctions are in the works there. 213 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 9: But he's gonna do everything he can to try and 214 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 9: get a peace deal that I know for sure. 215 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 2: Now, just quickly to other news, we had the Democratic 216 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: Socialist Zoran Mandani. He declared victory today in the New 217 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: York City Democratic mayoral primary. 218 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 3: An astonishing development, Josh. 219 00:10:55,320 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: This man is a radicol and given the demographics of 220 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: New York City, is likely to be the next mayor. 221 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 9: What a catastrophe, you know, I was. I was born 222 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 9: and raised in the New York suburbs. I still have 223 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 9: a lot of family. Most of my family is still 224 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 9: there in the broader New York City area. I mean, 225 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 9: what an unmitigated catastrophe to to have a young thirty 226 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 9: something year old socialist, a defund the police, defund ice 227 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 9: kind of craze, far left, pseudo Marxist lunatic. I mean, 228 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 9: what could possibly go wrong? I mean, New York City 229 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 9: is still, in theory the beacon of American power when 230 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 9: it comes to finance and technology and trade and this 231 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 9: and that there. Look, I would expect a lot of industry, 232 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 9: of banks, maybe even stock exchanges to start making a 233 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 9: slow egress and exit out of New York in the 234 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,479 Speaker 9: years to come, and this is actually the way that 235 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 9: that New Yorkers want to ultimately control their own sovereignty 236 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 9: and the destiny of this. If this is what they 237 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 9: want to do, then I think that that capital and 238 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 9: business will respond in cond The one thing that I 239 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 9: will add readA as a Floridian is that you know, 240 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 9: I've Florida's close. I'm I'm not sure how many of 241 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 9: these I'm not sure how many more of these flee 242 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 9: New Yorkers. How we want to come down here to 243 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 9: the Sunshine State. But you know, look joking aside there, 244 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 9: I genuinely do expect that there will be pretty severe 245 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 9: repercussions and ravocations when it comes to business and capital 246 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 9: trying to flee New York. It is an unmitigate catastrop 247 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 9: for New York City. 248 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, I think property prices in places like Tennessee 249 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 2: and Texas. 250 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 3: And Florida are going to skyrocket. 251 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: We've already got any flux of New Yorkers going into 252 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: those states, and I think that's going to increase. But 253 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 2: just on this particular character, he appears to have a 254 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: bit of the Kamalas about him. 255 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 3: Have a listened to this. 256 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 7: On the subject of trust, You've adopted different speaking accents 257 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 7: in different scenarios, but. 258 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 5: They go to their local bodega. 259 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 3: Is there one that's real and one that's affected? 260 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 12: What I would say is, as any immigrant knows, having 261 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 12: been born in Kampala, Uganda and then raised in South 262 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 12: Africa and moving here when I'm seven years old, is 263 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 12: there different parts of my life? World? 264 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 5: I Joy is a world way, Joy is a world 265 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 5: wad 'mon done? 266 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 11: He was talking about a worldwide press tour back when 267 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 11: he was. 268 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 3: A rapper fish in a Disney movie directed by his 269 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: mother clot Nepotism and hard work goes a long way, Josh, 270 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 3: I am lost for words. What can you say? 271 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 2: New York Because they keep voting for this, you can 272 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 2: hardly feel sorry for them. They keep voting for these 273 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: types of characters. Josh, Amma, thank you so much for 274 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: your time. Let's bring in Peter Hassen. Now he's the 275 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 2: Washington Free Beacon editor. Peter Donald Trump's going to be 276 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 2: speaking soon at NATO, but we've heard from him earlier today, 277 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: and we also heard from the NATO Secretary General Mark Rutta, 278 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 2: and he's been full of praise for the President. He 279 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: wrote a text President Trump saying Donald, you have driven 280 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: us to a really really important moment for America and 281 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: Europe and the world. You will achieve something no American 282 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: president in decades could get done. 283 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 3: This is all very. 284 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 2: Different, Peta, to the sort of atmosphere that greater Donald 285 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: Trump during his first term when he really didn't get 286 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: a warm reception at NATO. 287 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, I think that goes to one of 288 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 13: the clear differences between Trump's first term and his second 289 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 13: term is that Trump's first term was treated as a 290 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 13: joke or an aberration by you know, elites, not just 291 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 13: in the US but all over the world. 292 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 5: That's something that they shouldn't have to take seriously. 293 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 13: Whereas now Donald Trump's second term, it's very clear that 294 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 13: he's here to stay. The MAGA movement is here to stay, 295 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 13: and it's something to be taken seriously. And he is, 296 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 13: you know, here's someone who keeps tabs on how people 297 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 13: treat him and how people treat the country, and so 298 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 13: I think he expects a certain amount of respect for 299 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 13: world leaders. 300 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 5: I think they're finally starting to catch up. 301 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's something our Prime minister has found 302 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: out the hard way. He and some of his senior 303 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: ministers have said some uncomplimentary things about the President in 304 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 2: the past, and guess what our Prime minister hasn't been 305 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: able to secure what on one meeting with the President 306 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: thus far. So this is I think, yes, something to 307 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: remember that he has a very long memory. Now here 308 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: is praise for the President from an unlikely source, former 309 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 2: Biden National Security Council Coordinator for the Middle East, Brett McGirk. 310 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 3: He had this to say on CNN. 311 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 6: Look, bottom line, this is about the best place we 312 00:15:59,280 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 6: can be. 313 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 14: I give extremely high marks to this national security team 314 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 14: and President Trump for managing this crisis and given where 315 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 14: we are. 316 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 5: But now let's follow through. There's a chance for diplomacy. 317 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: Here and Peter, while there are Democrats who are pushing 318 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: to impage Donald Trump for these strikes against Iran's nuclear sides, 319 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: there were one hundred and twenty eight Democrats which joined 320 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 2: the Republicans to block a bit bid to impeach the president. 321 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: We only had seventy nine Democrats voting to proceed with 322 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: an impeachment vote. 323 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: What does that tell you, Peter? 324 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 13: That tells me that the Democratic leadership is is fully 325 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 13: aware of how out of touch the progressive base that 326 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 13: has gotten with the rest of the country. 327 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 5: I mean to even float an impeachment for that is 328 00:16:58,520 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 5: wildly out of bouts. 329 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 13: When you have Nancy Pelosi is saying it's not something 330 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 13: to be taken seriously, and Nancy Pelosi is the last 331 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 13: person that anybody is going to accuse of being too 332 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 13: soft on Trump. When you have heard saying that this 333 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 13: is a step too far, that really tells you all 334 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 13: you need to know. But at the same time, you 335 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 13: know that is kind of a sign of where their 336 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 13: party is going in the long term. Is the AOC 337 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 13: wing of the party and I think we saw that 338 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 13: with so Ron Mondannie's win in the primary last night. 339 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 13: It's as clear of a sign as it is that, 340 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 13: you know, as out of step as the progressive wing 341 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 13: may be, that is the direction that the party's voters 342 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 13: wants them to go. 343 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 2: Peter Hasson, thank you so much for your time, and 344 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 2: we're just gonna go to a quick break because we 345 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: expect to hear from Donald Trump on the other side. 346 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 3: I'll see you in a couple of minutes. 347 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: You're watching the Rider Panny Show, and it's time for 348 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: lefties losing it and they've done it now. 349 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 3: Daddy's mad. 350 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 2: It's bad enough that the president has to deal with 351 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 2: lefties losing it on networks like CNN and MSNBC, networks 352 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 2: pumping out Li's hysteriaan Hate twenty four to seven. 353 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 3: But the Commander in Chief was also fed up. 354 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 2: With an ally and FO failing to live up to 355 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 2: eight piece still and they all copped it, starting with 356 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: the lefty media outlets. 357 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 5: You know what they're doing. 358 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 12: They're really hurting great pilots that put their lives in 359 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 12: the line. CNN is scum and so is MSDNC. They're 360 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 12: all and frankly, the networks aren't much better. It's all fakeders. 361 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 12: But they should not have done that. Those pilots hit 362 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 12: their targets. Those targets were obliterated, and the pilots should 363 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 12: be given credit. Then not after the pilots are after me. 364 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 12: They want to try and to meet you. I think 365 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 12: CNN or to apologize to the pilots, the v twos. 366 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 12: I think that MSD and co to apologize. I think 367 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 12: these guys really, these networks are these cable networks are 368 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 12: real losers? You really are? You're realizing. 369 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 3: Your real losers? 370 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: Yes, yes you are, CNN and MSNBC. Or was he 371 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: calling them MSN DC. Well, frankly, he was just warming 372 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: up gutless losers. 373 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 12: I say that to CNN because I watch it. I 374 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 12: have no choice. I gotta watch that garbage. It's all garbage, 375 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 12: it's all fake news. But I think CNN is a 376 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 12: gutless group of people and the people that run it. 377 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 12: Nobody even knows. It's been sold so many times, but 378 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 12: the people that run it out to be a shame. 379 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 12: MSD and C again named Brian Roberts. He heads it. 380 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 12: He's a disgrace. He's a weak, pathetic disgrace. 381 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 2: Just fantastic stuff and well deserved. I'll show you shortly 382 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 2: what inspired that spray. But the President was not done yet. 383 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 2: We're going to have a look at one of the 384 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: greatest moments in Donald Trump's presidency thus far, a moment 385 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 2: that will go down in history. And this moment is 386 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 2: significant for a number of reasons. The substance of his comments, 387 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: the manner in which it was delivered, and the confidence 388 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: is inspired. 389 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: This is a leader, not a politician. 390 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 15: Do you believe that a run We need to see it. 391 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 9: Yeah, I do. 392 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 12: They violated it, but Israel violated it too. Israel. As 393 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 12: soon as we made the deal, they came out and 394 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 12: they dropped the load of Bob's the likes of which 395 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 12: I've never seen before, the biggest load that we've seen. 396 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 12: I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, okay, 397 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 12: now you have twelve hours, you don't go out in 398 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 12: the first hour and just drop everything you have on them. 399 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 4: So I'm not. 400 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 12: Happy with them. I'm not happy with the Ron either, 401 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 12: But I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out this morning 402 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 12: because the one rocket that didn't land, that was shot 403 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 12: perhaps by mistake, that didn't land, I'm not happy about that. 404 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 12: You know what we have to basically have two countries 405 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 12: that have been fighting so long and so hard that 406 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 12: they don't know what they're doing. Do you understand that. 407 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: Outstanding outstanding, and that sent a message. There was no 408 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: forceful retaliation by Israel and none further by Iran for now, 409 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 2: and folks from both sides. 410 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: Of the political divide appreciated. 411 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 2: The honesty, the transparency of the moment, but not this 412 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 2: blow hard. Let's hear from possibly the dumbest man on 413 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 2: British radio, James O'Brien. 414 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: The aftermath of an attack upon nuclear facilities and Keith 415 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: did my ears deceive me? I think what's clear is 416 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump doesn't know what the bleep is going? 417 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 15: All right? 418 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: Can we agree on that? 419 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: No, we can't agree on that, you contemptible simpleton, just 420 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 2: like we don't agree on this defamatory set of lies 421 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 2: about the president. Perhaps it will sue LBC fe like 422 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 2: he did ABC. That cost ABC a pretty penny, Yes 423 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 2: he did. How much might this little rand cost James 424 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: O'Brien's employer. 425 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: But as it is, it's the self confessed sex offender 426 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: who you're cheering for his attitude towards transgender women. It's 427 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: a self confessed sex offender, the guy who boasts about 428 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: grabbing women by their genitals. 429 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 3: Did he say he grabbed them without their consent? 430 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 2: Pretty sure he didn't say that, James. But let's get 431 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: back to what had the president ropeable in the past 432 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: twenty four hours, And it was reporting like this. 433 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 3: Here is CNN. 434 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 2: Reporting as gospel leaked to them by some desperate, hacked 435 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 2: and anonymous low level loser from the Deep State, if 436 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: I may quote the Press secretary. 437 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,479 Speaker 14: There essentially looking at the images and looking at what 438 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 14: was actually damaged. The Defense Intelligence Agency has assessed that 439 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 14: the components of Iran's nuclear program are largely intact, and 440 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 14: that Iron's nuclear program has essentially only been set back 441 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 14: by months. 442 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: Sure, Jan just months nuclear sides bomb to Smitherines just 443 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 2: set back a few months. Here is how dishonest CNN 444 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 2: can be had their only objective is to damage Donald Trump. 445 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 3: Let's have a look at this. 446 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 2: Presenter, Aaron Burnett, first claiming last week that there was 447 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: no need to bomb Iran's nuclear sides because there were 448 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 2: years away from developing a weapon, if indeed Iran even 449 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: wanted a weapon. 450 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 7: This timeline of Iran being a few weeks away from 451 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 7: a nuclear bomb is in direct contradiction to CNN's reporting. 452 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 7: According to US intelligence assessments, Iran is three years away 453 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 7: from being able to produce a nuclear weapon if they 454 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 7: wanted to. So the facts on Iran getting a nuclear 455 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 7: weapon do not bear out the claim at the heart 456 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 7: of what has put the world on the verge of 457 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 7: World war World. 458 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: War hyperboly much. 459 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: Here is the same activist journalists less than a week 460 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: later saying the American strikes only put back Iran's nuclear 461 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: weapon ambitions by a matter of months. 462 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 7: Only set back the Iranian nuclear program by months. 463 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 3: We got to call it like it is. It's a 464 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 3: big deal, unbelievable. 465 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 2: And here is sin in Aaron Burnett again claiming that 466 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 2: those chanting death to America in. 467 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 3: Iran are actually really friendly. 468 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 2: Well, perhaps they're friendly to her because she's the very 469 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: definition of a useful idiot. 470 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 7: They're chanting death to America all around me, even as 471 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 7: I say, oh, I'm an American reporting for CNN, and 472 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 7: they were happy to speak to me. So those two 473 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 7: sort of jarring realities of the chant and yet the 474 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 7: friendliness have existed together, Nawanda. 475 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 2: Donald Trump gave them made outlets another big serve earlier 476 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: today during this press conference at the Hague. 477 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: You had some great reporters, but you have scum. 478 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 4: CNN is scum, MSDS is scum. The New York Times 479 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 4: is scum. They're bad people, They're sick. And what they've 480 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 4: done is they're trying to make this unbelievable victory into 481 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 4: something worse. 482 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: And we will be crossing to the NATO summit shortly 483 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,959 Speaker 2: to hear from President Trump. 484 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 3: That press conference has. 485 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 2: Been delayed because the President is having a private meeting 486 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 2: with the Ukrainian leader, President Zelenski, and as soon as 487 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 2: that press conference is underway, we will be crossing life 488 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: to it. 489 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 3: But joining me now. 490 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: Is the president of the Center of the American Experiment, 491 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 2: John Heindereiker. 492 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 3: John, you don't hear straight. 493 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 2: Talk like that from a politician too often. What was 494 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 2: your reaction when you heard that raw commentary on Iran 495 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 2: and Israel break the ceasepy do, Rita? 496 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 16: We've all gotten used to this. There's never been a 497 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 16: president in our history and very few political leaders who 498 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 16: who talk like that. But we're used to it now 499 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 16: and it doesn't shock us anymore. And frankly, it's hard 500 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 16: not to agree with the substance of what Trump said. 501 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 16: He's done a wonderful job here. He's devastated Iran's nuclear program, 502 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 16: which was a serious threat to US as well as 503 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 16: to Israel and others. He's brought about a ceasefire now 504 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 16: between Israel and Iran, and the left can't stand it, 505 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 16: you know, they hate success, and so this is what 506 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 16: Trump gets so irate about. 507 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 3: And what do you make. 508 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 2: Of the claims that these strikes did little to hurt 509 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: Iran's ability to develop nuclear weapons? Do you put any 510 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: credibility to those claims? 511 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 12: None? 512 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 16: Rita A big problem we have in American government is 513 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 16: that when we have a Republican president, Democrats the bureaucracy 514 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 16: will continually leak things that they think are damaging to 515 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 16: the president. Now they might be true, they might be 516 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 16: completely false, but the media treats it like gospel, you know, 517 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 16: because it's a leak, that means it must be true. 518 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 16: And that's what's going on here. Somebody somewhere in the 519 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 16: Intelligence Committee leaked a claim that, well, maybe there wasn't 520 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 16: so much damage after all, but we really don't know. 521 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 16: I think it's blindingly obvious. You drop those bunker busting bombs, 522 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 16: you drop thirty Tomahawk missiles on Iran. We've all seen 523 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 16: the photographs of what these areas look like. The damage 524 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 16: that was done was absolutely enormous. And I think Trump 525 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 16: is right to be angry at these news outlets and 526 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 16: this leaker on behalf of the pilots and the military 527 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 16: people who carried out the attack. 528 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 2: And he really does seem to be genuinely angry about 529 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 2: this one. I mean, he has all sorts of lies. 530 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 2: In Hyssyrian high herbally said about his administration on a 531 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 2: daily basis, But I've seldom seen him John take something 532 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 2: so personally and so personally on behalf of those involved 533 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: in this operation. 534 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 16: Yeah, that's exactly right, reader. I would add one more thing. 535 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 16: You know, some of the Democrats in Congress are complaining 536 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 16: that Trump didn't give them any advance notice about the attack. 537 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 16: Why didn't you tell Congress before? And Well, the answer 538 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 16: is if he had done that, the Democrats in Congress 539 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 16: would have leaked it. They would have destroyed the secrecy 540 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 16: of the attack. That's the state of politics at America. 541 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: Reader, Well, yeah, the element of surprise would have been lost, 542 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: but I have no doubt that some Democrats would have 543 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: leaked it. Now we've seen Joe Biden's National Secretary Council 544 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 2: Coordinator for the Middle East, Brett McGirk, praise the president's 545 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: decisive action against Iran, but there hasn't been any such 546 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 2: praise from Biden's Secretary of State and Anthony Blincoln. 547 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 3: He's condemned the. 548 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 2: Strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities, who wrote a piece for 549 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: The New York Times and he said the strikes on 550 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: three of Iran's nuclear facilities by the United States was 551 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: unwise and unnecessary. What do you make of that criticism? 552 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,719 Speaker 2: John Blinken is not happy with the President for tearing 553 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 2: up the nuclear deal with Iran. 554 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 16: Well, Anthony Blinkett is a hardcore Democratic Party partisan. He's 555 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 16: the guy who organized the fifty one former intelligence officials 556 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 16: commonly referred to as the Dirty fifty one to lie 557 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 16: about Hunter Biden's laptop and the information it contained about 558 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 16: Joe Biden. They knew it was genuine, but to help 559 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 16: Joe Biden get elected, they organized this effort to lie 560 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 16: about it. And Anthony Blinken is the number one guy 561 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 16: who did that. So nothing that he says should be 562 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 16: taken seriously. You know that Obama Plan, I think almost 563 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 16: everyone agrees now it was a joke. He gave Iran 564 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 16: billions of dollars, they signed a piece of paper, and 565 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 16: they kept on working on enriching uranium. The UN Agency 566 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 16: said over and over again, they're cheating. They're not disclosing 567 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 16: that the Obama Joint Plan of Action was a fiasco, 568 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 16: and I think almost everyone realizes that. 569 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: Now, Let's have a look at some polling on how 570 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 2: Americans feel about this issue, about how they feel on 571 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: Iran having nuclear weapons. Let's listen to san An's polling 572 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 2: expert Harry. 573 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 15: Enton, there's more support for Donald Trump's positions than is 574 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 15: comically acknowledged opposer Iran getting a nuclear weapon. I mean, 575 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 15: look at this, seventy nine percent of adults agree on 576 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 15: that they agree with Donald Trump and Ron cannot get 577 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 15: a nuclear weapon, eighty three percent of Republicans, seventy nine 578 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 15: percent of Independence, seventy nine percent of Democrats. When you 579 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 15: get seventy nine percent of Democrats and eighty three percent 580 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 15: of Republicans agreeing on anything, you know that that position 581 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 15: is the very clear majority in this country. 582 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,479 Speaker 2: Wow, that is surprising that you've got almost identical numbers 583 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 2: across the board. That rarely happens on any issue. 584 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 16: John, It almost never happens, Rita. We're so divided in America. 585 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 16: But what it shows is that people realize this is 586 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 16: a major national security issue. We don't want to get 587 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 16: hit with a nuclear bomb by Iran. And I mean, 588 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 16: there's not a big minority on that issue. I see 589 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 16: other polling Rita that people who identify themselves as MAGA Republicans, 590 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 16: which is Trump's real base, over ninety percent support the 591 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 16: action that he's taken here in Iran. The idea that 592 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 16: there's a big division and the American people over this. 593 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 16: It just isn't true. 594 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 2: Now, as for the strikes against Iran, we do know 595 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 2: there are many Republicans unhappy about the US's involvement. But 596 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 2: though they are loud and some of them are very influential, 597 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 2: there minority in the Republican Party. 598 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 15: There's this idea. Okay, maybe the MAGA base wouldn't necessarily 599 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 15: like this. Look, this is Donald Trump's Republican Party. That's 600 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 15: why I think is so important to note GOP on 601 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 15: the US air strikes in a run, seventy six percent 602 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 15: in the average of the two Poles approved, compared to 603 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 15: just eighteen percent who disapproved. Now, well, note that is 604 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 15: a bit higher than Donald Trump's disapprove a rating within 605 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 15: the Republican Party. But overall Republicans are with Donald Trump 606 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 15: on this. 607 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 3: John Harry is right there. 608 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 2: This is now Donald Trump's Republican Party, and the base 609 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: will go with him, even if they're a little bit 610 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 2: uncomfortable about the direction he's varying. 611 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 17: It. 612 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 16: As long as things go, well, he's not going to 613 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 16: lose any of that support. I don't think there's any 614 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 16: prospect of US ground troops in Iran. I don't think 615 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 16: there's any prospect of this somehow going bad, sort of 616 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 16: like a rock did in two thousand and six. And 617 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 16: as long as things continue to go well, he's going 618 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 16: to have overwhelming support from American people, and especially overwhelming 619 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 16: support from the Republican Party. 620 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: How how is he going domestically. We have spent so 621 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: much time looking at how he's performing in foreign affairs, 622 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 2: But on those Corey shoes that he won the election on. 623 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 2: There were the cultural war issues, there was the immigration 624 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 2: crisis and inflation. 625 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 3: Is he on top of those issues? I think he is. 626 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 16: Reading Number one, He pledged to close the border. The 627 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 16: Democrats said, oh no, it can't be done. When he 628 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 16: closed the border, in a matter of weeks, illegal immigration 629 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 16: has stopped. I mean it's come to virtually zero, and 630 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 16: now they're carrying out deportations starting with the most dangerous 631 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 16: criminal illegal aliens. He's got broad support for those actions 632 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 16: throughout the American public. I think one thing that's important 633 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 16: to keep our eye on is the so called Big 634 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 16: Beautiful Bill, this massive spending bill that extends the tag 635 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 16: cuts from Trump's first term that otherwise are going to 636 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 16: expire at the end of the year. That has passed 637 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 16: the House. It's working its way through the Senate in 638 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 16: slightly different form. We're told the Senate is probably going 639 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 16: to pass it by July fourth, and if they do 640 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 16: and it gets signed into law, this is going to 641 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 16: be the big win domestically of Donald Trump's first year. 642 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 3: John Heinerecher, It's always a pleasure. 643 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time tonight, and don't 644 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 2: go anywhere after the break. Anthony Albanize is said to 645 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 2: meet with Gijiping again for the fourth time, and yet 646 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 2: he can't get that one on one meeting with President Trump. 647 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 3: And we will hopefully be crossing to. 648 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 2: The President in the Netherlands as he speaks to the press. 649 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 2: Welcome back. We are still waiting to hear from the President, 650 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 2: waiting with the rest of the wor world with baited breath, tour. 651 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 3: Here from President Trump. 652 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 2: He is at the NATO summit in the Netherlands, and 653 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 2: we will cross to the summit as soon as that 654 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 2: press conference is underway. But joining me now is international 655 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 2: security expert and professor of political science at Northeastern University, 656 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 2: Max Abrams. 657 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 3: Max, welcome back to the program. 658 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 2: I wanted to get your reaction to Donald Trump's comments 659 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 2: earlier today regarding the success of the Iranian strike. He 660 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 2: refuted very strongly these claims that Operation Midnight Hammer did 661 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 2: little to damage Iran's nuclear ambitions. 662 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:42,399 Speaker 13: Yeah. 663 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 17: Well, there are two different views on this. I certainly 664 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 17: am of the opinion that both the Americans and has 665 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:56,720 Speaker 17: realized did substantial damage to Iran's nuclear program. That seems 666 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 17: to be the possession of Israeli intelligence. The Americans. Also, 667 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 17: the head of the IAEA has said that there's been 668 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 17: significant damage. Plus, I just trust the science. I mean, 669 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 17: you drop fourteen of those massive bunker busters. We've seen 670 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 17: in the photographic imagery that the hits were directly on target. 671 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 17: Now you can't see, you know, a huge blast, but 672 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 17: that's because the bombs actually penetrate through the mountain, and 673 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 17: I suspect that they're increasingly we're going to get confirmation 674 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 17: that whatever was underneath or nearby those bombs was taken out. Trump, 675 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 17: of course, has a lot of haters, and he is 676 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 17: haters even within his own administration. This story has been 677 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 17: pumped out by CNN and The New York Times despite 678 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 17: the science, actually the nuclear weapons program remains intact. As 679 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 17: an empiricist, I'll continue to watch wherever the evidence leads, 680 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 17: but at this point I think that Donald Trump is 681 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 17: most likely correct. 682 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 2: It's been amusing to watch CNN, in particular, I played 683 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 2: some clips earlier in the program where the same reporter 684 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,439 Speaker 2: last week is claiming the Iranians are years away from 685 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 2: any sort of nuclear capacity, and then she's saying, well, 686 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 2: they've only been set back a couple of months. They 687 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 2: could still have a weapon in a couple of months. 688 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a picolaid. But Donald Trump's success in 689 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 2: handling the conflict in the Middle East has earned him 690 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 2: another Noble Peace Prize nomination. We discussed on the program 691 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 2: earlier this week, the nomination that came from Pakistan for 692 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 2: Donald Trump. He's received another one today from US representative 693 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 2: Body Kata, though. 694 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 3: Max, I don't think he is likely to win an. 695 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 2: Award that appears these days to be reserved exclusively for 696 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 2: the political left. 697 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 17: I've been very happy with Trump's handling of the Iran conflict. 698 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 17: He's gotten all sorts of advice, and I think that 699 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 17: he rejected a lot of advice and picked the best 700 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 17: path forward. There were many people who said that, you 701 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 17: know that the United States shouldn't attack at all. There 702 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 17: were other people saying the United States should not just 703 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 17: attack the nuclear weapons program, but should go even further 704 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 17: into topple the regime in Tehran. I think he picked 705 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 17: the best path by attacking the nuclear sites, but also 706 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 17: knowing not to go too far. There are many Americans, 707 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 17: I think very understandably who didn't want another regime change war, 708 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 17: and in that sense, he rejected the neocons, but he 709 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 17: also rejected many of the so called realists who didn't 710 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 17: want the United States to do anything at all. And 711 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 17: it seems like that both the Americans and Israelis have 712 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 17: done substantial damage to the nuclear program without having American 713 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 17: fingerprints on a country that could really go or rye. 714 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 17: I'm not at all sympathetic to the regime in Tehran, 715 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 17: but when there's a regime change war, it becomes extremely unpredictable, 716 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 17: as we've seen in Libya, as we saw in Iraq, 717 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 17: and so for that reason I do think that Trump 718 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 17: should get a Nobel Peace Prize. 719 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 12: Well. 720 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 2: I do believe Iran is different from Libya and Iraq 721 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 2: for a number of reasons. But you are one hundred 722 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 2: percent right about Donald Trump being really trying to appease 723 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 2: both sides of his party here, and he spoke earlier 724 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 2: today about not pushing for regime change in Iran. He 725 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 2: just said he doesn't want to have the chaos that 726 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 2: that would bring. I want to ask you though about 727 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 2: matts closer to home for US in Australia, there are 728 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 2: reports that our Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi could have another 729 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 2: meeting with Jijiping. This would be his fourth meeting, but 730 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 2: he has so far not managed to secure a meeting 731 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 2: with President Trump. Max, do you see the US Australia 732 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 2: relationship as being strained in any way? We do know 733 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 2: that the Albanesi government's attitude to Israel hasn't always been 734 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 2: pleasing for the US, and neither has some of the 735 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 2: things that the Prime Minister and some of his ministers 736 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 2: have had to say over the years about President Trump himself. 737 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 17: You know, that's a little bit outside of my wheelhouse. 738 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,720 Speaker 17: I focus more on on the Middle East terrorism stuff, 739 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 17: so I don't want to misspeak about that. I'm really 740 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 17: not sure. 741 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 2: No, No, I appreciate I appreciate you saying that that is. 742 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 2: That is, Yet we're always interested in how you married 743 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,280 Speaker 2: toxic the relationship. 744 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 3: That's why I love having you on the program. 745 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 17: One thing I do want to ask you. 746 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 3: Is the main I know you've personally been. 747 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 2: Well, yes, I want to ask you about that because 748 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 2: I know you've been a victim of the rise in 749 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 2: anti Semitism in America and American university campuses. 750 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 3: We've spoken about that in the past. How do you 751 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 3: feel about. 752 00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 2: A man who wants to globalize the Intervada winning New 753 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 2: York City's democratic mayoral primaries or men? Dammy, well, he 754 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 2: looks said to be mayor. New York City is a 755 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,760 Speaker 2: very blue area. This man could be the next mayor 756 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:13,439 Speaker 2: of New York. 757 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 17: I think that the war on terrorism is officially over 758 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:23,720 Speaker 17: when it looks like the mayor of New York City 759 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,800 Speaker 17: could be an open supporter of the global into Fada. 760 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 17: He wants to bring the war in Gaza home. And 761 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 17: this is just so appalling to me. I'm from the Northeast. 762 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 17: We were particularly affected by you know, nine to eleven, 763 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 17: and it is just crazy that in the city of 764 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 17: the World Trade Center towers, it looks like it's quite 765 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 17: possible that the mayor could be an advocate for antifada 766 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 17: inside of the United States. It seems to me that 767 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 17: that's the last thing that the United States or any 768 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 17: Western countries need is more extremism. This alliance between the 769 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 17: far left in the islamis so I think that this 770 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 17: is deeply troubling. I think that this is a bigger 771 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 17: concern than just New York. I think it's indicative of 772 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,760 Speaker 17: the direction of the Democratic Party and where the United 773 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,360 Speaker 17: States and so many other Western countries are going. 774 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 2: Well, let's have a look at a clip from a 775 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 2: popular streamer called Sneaker. He explains why he voted for 776 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 2: this character. 777 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 7: I supported him because he's the only non Zionist candidate 778 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 7: on that stage. 779 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 3: I thought you needed to be bond and solved. 780 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 16: But people are energetic, people aren't tired of the Zionism, 781 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 16: and I'm excited. 782 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 6: To see what he's got. 783 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 3: I'm not a socialist myself. 784 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 6: I don't want everyone to be a communist get free stuff. 785 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 16: But I think, yes, some cool. 786 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 2: Ideas, and I've heard that over and over again. I 787 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 2: don't know how prevalent it was amongst his supporters, but 788 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 2: there seemed to be this anti Zionist sentiment max as 789 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 2: much as all the radical economic policies this character is 790 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 2: putting forward. 791 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 17: I think that it's really problematic because he is very 792 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 17: well known for being anti Zionist. He started up a 793 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 17: student group when he was younger in college, Students for 794 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 17: Justice and Palestine, and they're not just pro Palestine, but 795 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 17: many of them are really quite extremist. Simultaneously, he calls 796 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 17: for a reduction in the police force, and so I 797 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 17: would expect to see and you can quote me on this, 798 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 17: I would expect to see a rise in violence in 799 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 17: New York City. Yes, again the large Jewish population, but 800 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 17: even more broadly against New Yorkers. What's also really worrisome 801 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:16,360 Speaker 17: is that he is depicting himself as a mainstream Democrat politician. 802 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 17: And indeed the strategists, some of sort of like the 803 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 17: Democrat establishment political strategists of Biden and Kamala agree and 804 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 17: they say, yes, this guy is the future of the 805 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:39,280 Speaker 17: Democratic Party. He is an important model for Democrats to follow. 806 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 17: And again that makes this a much bigger issue than 807 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,879 Speaker 17: just what's going on locally in New York. It makes 808 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,240 Speaker 17: it a national issue and arguably even an international issue. 809 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,800 Speaker 17: With the global Intofada, there are so many countries around 810 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 17: the West that are suffering from this kind of extremism, 811 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 17: and apparently he wants to bring that to New York 812 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 17: City as well. 813 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 13: Well. 814 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 2: We've seen that sort of politics normalized, haven't we In 815 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,479 Speaker 2: the last few years. We had the Squad and they're 816 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 2: as a radical as you will see, and they seem 817 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,839 Speaker 2: to have some of the loudest voices amongst the Democrats 818 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 2: now who are sort of ruddless. So could this be 819 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 2: what we expect to see from the Democrats going forward? 820 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 2: This radical wing really setting the agenda. 821 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 17: Absolutely, And the one benefit I could think is there 822 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 17: could be some sort of dialectical process where you know, 823 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:41,919 Speaker 17: traditional Democrats look at this kind of extremism and they say, 824 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 17: you know what, this isn't the party that I used 825 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 17: to support. So hopefully some of them will flake off 826 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 17: and enjoin what I consider to be the more sane party. 827 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 17: I wouldn't even be surprised if some people move out 828 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 17: of New York City because you know, with rising crime 829 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 17: and all sorts of other problems that this socialist mayor 830 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 17: would bring, it could lead to some you know, larger transitions. 831 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 2: Now we are just waiting to hear from President Trump. 832 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 3: He's a little bit late with. 833 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,720 Speaker 2: His press conference, but we'll be crossing to it shortly, 834 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 2: expecting him in the next couple of minutes, Max, what 835 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 2: would you see as a successful NATO summit for the president. 836 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 2: Does he need to secure substantial increases in defense spending 837 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,800 Speaker 2: from the NATO partners. 838 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 17: The irony is that Trump's critics have long accused him 839 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 17: as being, you know, a Russian agent or a Russian asst, 840 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 17: in cahoots with Russia, soft on Russia, and yet it's 841 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 17: Trump who has substantially revitalize NATO. NATO isn't worth much 842 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 17: if member states are not actually taking money from their 843 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 17: national economies and building up this military alliance. And it 844 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 17: already seems to be the case that he has scored 845 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 17: crucial successes in raising the member state contributions from two 846 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 17: percent to the projected five percent. He's sometimes accused of 847 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 17: being anti NATO, but he's actually really good for NATO, 848 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 17: and the fact that he is there really shows his 849 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 17: commitment to this important alliance. 850 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing so many of his critics 851 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 2: miss about Donald Trump. And there's plenty from the conservative 852 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 2: side who also missed the particularly conservative commentators in the West. 853 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 3: He's all about outcomes, Max. 854 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 2: He's willing to say some harsh things about NATO that 855 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 2: people will say it puts the alliance at risk, and 856 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 2: it's a threat to NATO. But what he's trying to 857 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 2: do is to get increase spending to actually strengthen NATO. 858 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 2: And that's the end result. With Trump, it's not about 859 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 2: the retric. 860 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 3: It's not about the tactics. It's all about outcomes. 861 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 17: That's true. I mean, rhetorically, he has threatened to distance 862 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 17: himself in the United States from NATO if member states 863 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 17: don't get their act together. But that message actually seems 864 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 17: to have worked. 865 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,919 Speaker 2: Okay, Professor Max Abrams, I'm going to have to thank 866 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,319 Speaker 2: you for your time because we're going to cross to 867 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 2: the hag now and hear from President Donald Trump.