1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Nothing like a rugby league blue. And I've been, in fact, 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: I've been at the forefront of many of this. Let's 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: dive into a fuel right now. Well, the most important 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: one I've lived through. Well, there's now Guss and Buzz, 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: and Webster's joined the cause now as well, since retiring 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: from the Sydney Morning Herald. So it's Gus, Webster and 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: Buzz like a triumvirate of Blues. There was, of course 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: Chippy and Warren. Now poor old Chippy's gone, but I 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: think Warren still harbors a grudge against him. Roy Masters 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: had battles with various people, including myself, and now I 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: get on quite well with Roy. He's a good man. Roy. Look, 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: he's one of sing his best mates, and Singer I said, 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: you've got to drop off Roy. He's a good black. 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: And I did eventually drop off Roy. But he is 15 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: a good Black Royal and enjoy his company and things 16 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: like that. But you know, Buzz does that thing every 17 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: year about he leaves himself out of it. 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: I remember one day with a continuous call He's had 19 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: Buzz on just going. 20 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: Through all these feuds over the years. They were fucking priceless, 21 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: Like Buzz thrives on him. 22 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: He loves it. 23 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: When most people go on the foodle, he thrives on him. 24 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 2: Tell me the night you and Buzz God a physical confrontation. 25 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: Well look there are two versions. There's the truth in 26 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: his version. So I Nathan Gibbs, who I think is 27 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,919 Speaker 1: a champion black. He was the new South Wales team doctor. 28 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: Now this is back in my early days of calling Origin. 29 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: So my first Origin was in eighty seven, so i'd 30 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: probably be eighty eight or eighty nine. I was probably 31 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: three years into it and I'd flown to Brisbane with 32 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: a stomach bug. I was crook. So we're at the 33 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: Park Royal and that's where the team was staying. So 34 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: I sought Nathan out, who I knew through Bezo and 35 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: he's been a mate Nathan for years. And so I said, 36 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: mate on Crook, I don't know if I can do 37 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: this game tonight. He said, well, what's wrong? I told him. 38 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: He said, well, needily up and you'll be fine. He said, 39 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: but as soon as you finished, get back Aaron gave 40 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: a bit, you know, because it's going to wear off. 41 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: So I got through the game all right, you know, Noogle, 42 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: that didn't vomit or need to go to the bathroom. 43 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: And so I got back to my room at the Park. 44 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: Roy We'll probably you get out at lang Park and 45 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: it's probably eleven o'clock, eleven thirty, and everyone would go. 46 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: The players all go to Roses, you know, wouldn't matter 47 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: if they plane the next week, and they get drink 48 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: the nightclub, which I don't know if it even exists anymore, 49 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: and the media would gather at the park roll and 50 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: get on the drink there after they had filed. So 51 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: Buzz and I, you know, were and we're still mates 52 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: even though I bag him and so he bags me. 53 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: But anyway, he rings me in the room and he says, 54 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: get down and have a drink. Come on your wake bloody. 55 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: And at the Stag, I'd sort of stopped drinking to 56 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: a certain extent of getting up very early in the 57 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: morning to do sport breakfast sport. And so I said, no, no, 58 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm crook, mat leave me alone. Come on, you mang 59 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: I get out here. And he's given it to me, 60 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: and I said, Buzz, piss off and leave me alone. 61 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm tired, on crook. I've got leedleed out by Nathan. 62 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: He said not to go out. So then he rings 63 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: about three or four times. Right. So, at the time, 64 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: I had a harsh or plate. I had two teeth there, 65 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: and I used to take him out at night and 66 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: put him in the stereodo anyway, say, next thing, there's 67 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: bang on the door, So get out me underpants and 68 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: sing in care of the door. And he is buzz 69 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: shaping up. He said, you have hang up. I made 70 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: for the last time. I'm putting mone on your chin. 71 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 1: So I said, Buzz, piss off and leave me and 72 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: I close the door. Say bang bang, bang on the 73 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: door again. So I opened the door, and I give 74 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: him a little love tap, just a short sharp one, 75 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: and so slammed the door. Next thing, the phone rings again. 76 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: Right here, you and me in the car park down here, 77 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: I said, Buzz. I'm glad there wasn't social media about 78 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: this stage. I said, Buzz, I'm crooked leaving you. So 79 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: it's become legendary in my mind and his mind. He 80 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: reckons I assaulted him without provocation. 81 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 4: Did he write that in an article? 82 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: No, he just report. Now he's a king of podcasts. 83 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: He's doing podcasts every day. Buzz. Yeah, And so if 84 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: he if he tells the story. It's it's a modified 85 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: version of what he was told. I said, there are 86 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: two versions, the truth and buzz. 87 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 4: Yeah you look at you look at these days, right, 88 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 4: you got that, Like you said, you've got Webster Buzz 89 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 4: and Gus feud. You've got even the more recent one 90 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 4: like Michael Chamas going at Gus called Michael Tamas going 91 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 4: at Gordy Talus about the cultural that. 92 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: Was a strange one when they all worked at Channel nine. 93 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's with one thing about Gus. You reckon Ray 94 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 2: can hold a grudge, will mate, the Guss is the 95 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: best in the business. And when Chamis goes on the 96 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: show now, Gus won't even look at and fair play 97 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: to Chamis, like Chamis holds his duke's up. He asked 98 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: you once about lockye Galvin? He said, mate, you know Galvin, 99 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: is he going to play this week? 100 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 3: You're going to be Karen? 101 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: And Gus would even look at I don't know, I'm 102 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: not a doctor, am I? And he goes and Chammas 103 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: fair play goes well, like you got tob sext what 104 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: about fat and Stirlow? Because you play still fine now? 105 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 2: But mate, there are a lot of play. 106 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: Golf with Peter every Monday. Yeah. Uh, and Peter's daughter 107 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: worked for me for a number of years, one of. 108 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 4: My sts living up the Central Coast, down. 109 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: From call It to Castle Hill. When we haven't played 110 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: from up because of the rain, but he drives down. 111 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: I'd say Peter and I are pretty close now and 112 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: that was probably. I don't know whether Hannah had anything 113 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: to do with it, because I have a great regard 114 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: for her and she's a fantastic young woman. But Peter 115 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: and I have great fun. The Fatty is a bit 116 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: of a casually because he's best mates Gibbs. Yeah, gotcha. Okay, 117 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: so they're pretty close, and I understand that I still 118 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: talk to Paul and you know, not that I see 119 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: much anymore. He's based in Queensland. But what happened was 120 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: the footy show. I mean I got punted, as I've 121 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: described earlier because of Super League arl coming together, and 122 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: then Blocker got the punt and I stoock up. I 123 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: stuck up for Blocker over the incidents which I won't 124 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: go into, but it was a funny night. I just 125 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: know that there were people hiding under disk in the 126 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: Channel lined cottage and the rest of it, so I 127 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: stuck up for him, and I didn't think other people 128 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: stuck up for Blocker as they should have at the time, 129 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: and so there was a falling out. I mean, Paul 130 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: and I had done Lay's commercials for years together and 131 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: we're still civil to each other, but I don't know 132 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: that we're you know, it could be closer, but Peter 133 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: and I certainly, you know, any animosity between us is 134 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: long gone. And you know, I'm seventy and Peter's not 135 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: there yet, but he'll get there, and you know, it's 136 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: just sort of we laugh about it now, you about 137 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: the blues and stinks. 138 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 4: Taking us back to the Footy Show the early days, 139 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 4: were you one of the originals on the panel. 140 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you who the original were. It 141 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: was obviously Paul and Peter, but Singer and Bob Fulton. 142 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: The first Footy show with Bob. 143 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 3: Fulton and Chief Chief as well. Chief didn't say word the. 144 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: Whole one of his spect shows. I love the Chief anyway. 145 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: So Singo sacked himself. He said, it's not for me. 146 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 3: I remember seeing those words. 147 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 2: He said, fuck that, He's just like playing touch football 148 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty people. 149 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Bese sacked himself as well, and so 150 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: it ended up Peter, Paul Blocker. 151 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 4: And me and was that the first year would have 152 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 4: been nineteen ninety four. 153 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: I think you'd probably be right. Sort of before super League. 154 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: I think we had a crack at it before super 155 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: League inter Bean, and then it became and the footy 156 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: show became an ar real vehicle. And then, strangely enough, 157 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: when super League actually formed the competition, Channel nine got 158 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: the rights to super League. So Rabbits was calling super 159 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: League on the night and a roll on Friday Night 160 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: sort of thing. 161 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 4: How big a show was it back then? 162 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: It was look, Paul was the star. There's no doubt 163 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: Paul was the star. But they had a brilliant Blake 164 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: who I've run into recently, Glenn Pallister as the producer. 165 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 3: And I was with the Palaser the other night. 166 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: Great Blake exactly know he got a fruit juice bar. 167 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: Rabbit ed Alon, Yes, yeah, he's always trying to get 168 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: me up there. Well he goes, but he's got the 169 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: Fruituce Base said, tell me, went's a perfect time. He said, 170 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: we'll make it a fair afternoon photo. I said, run mate, what's. 171 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: In it for me? Always looking for a quid anyway, 172 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: I went there safe and I went to dinner at 173 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: a restaurant just down there. We caught the ferry from 174 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: Wagstaff where we now live, across to ed Along and 175 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: I said, I reckon, that's fruitures. But because he texted 176 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,119 Speaker 1: me when I was in Paris doing the Olympic Class 177 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: year Palister and I love Palister. So I rang him 178 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: and I said where are you and he said, oh, mate, 179 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: I do sundays down here on producing the project. That 180 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: was about a week before I got the past. So 181 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: I texted him and said, jeez, you picked the right 182 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: wonder back here fifteen years on air. You've been there 183 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: a minute and it's getting the pump anyway. He said, 184 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: didn't think that was very funny, but he said you've 185 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: got to come and catch up with me and his 186 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: wife up there at there and look, Pallister, there was 187 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: a black call. Rory Callahana was in dev producer and 188 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: he he was sort of, you know, the blake that 189 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: made things happen the way they should happen, but the 190 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: really creative any stuff the anti ads was Palliser's idea. 191 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: He remember that you remember Dougie the pizza boy, the 192 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: blake pizzas the young blake he's a boomer or I think, 193 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: well they had me in a matelli and crazy nest, 194 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: laying on the bed with gold chained dray Brown the neck. 195 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: You couldn't do it now, couldn't do it now? And 196 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: he come of the cover, come in, bring your pizza 197 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: with you. 198 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: I love the one where once they got their palace 199 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 2: and sells the story where he said, hey, listen, boys, 200 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: why don't we get there. We'll do a bit of 201 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 2: a shower and you just all do a song as 202 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: the village people. And they said, who are going to 203 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 2: get and they said, well get so so we need 204 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: one more person, and he goes, we'll give Rabs a call. 205 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 2: So they ring Rabs and they said listen and he goes, 206 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 2: maybe like you to do you know, what do you think? 207 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: And he goes, yeah, well you know, yeah, okay, as long. 208 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 3: As I'm not one of the gay ones. 209 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: That's the exact quote. Look, I'd say this Cooper about 210 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: the Footy Show. You couldn't do the Footy Show in 211 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. How we did it in the nineteen nineties. 212 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: You had Mahatt mccaid. I'll tell you a funny story. 213 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: Remember the Gundapa brothers, Yeah, the Gondappas. Yeah, so what happened? 214 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: Greg Ritchie mahatma Coat. He is a great blake and 215 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: a great talent. He used to fly down from Brisbane, right, 216 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: So we get to the airport to come to Channel 217 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: nine and he'd be picked up by a cab driver 218 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,599 Speaker 1: with a cab charge driver. One of them was a 219 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: Gundharpa brother, the Indian Black. So anyway, they take you know, 220 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: Matt McCAT Greg Richie, and they realized it's Mahat mccaid 221 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: and they said, oh, mister Richie, you're a very funny man. 222 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: He said you need the music or accompaniment, and they 223 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: played the sitars. So the Gundarpa brothers offer their services 224 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: for free. They'd pick him up in the cab, bring 225 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: their sitars with him and then he gets his makeup 226 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: on as Mahat McCAT. And they'd played the sitars. They 227 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: would yeah, they were sue cab drivers pay they's played 228 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: the sitar and you wouldn't believe it. I lived in 229 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: northwestern Sydney until recently, and I'm having a cup of 230 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: coffee and there's a very biggustraighted Indian population in that area. 231 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: And two blakes come up and he said, Ray, great 232 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: to see you again, and I said, good to see 233 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: you boys. Where we met Weather Gundapa brothers And that 234 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: was like thirty years later. And Greg Ritchie, I mean, 235 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: mister Boton, mister Boughton, you couldn't do the stuff he 236 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: did now it just would be socially and unacceptable. But 237 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: at the time, in that time frame, it was a 238 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: very very funny segment. 239 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 4: It's funny now how many people are still like they're 240 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 4: wanting that old footy show back, They're wanting that old 241 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 4: humor back. I mean, obviously there's a there's a large 242 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 4: percentage you couldn't do it again. 243 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: You go and you do it, and then all of 244 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: a sudden, if you did, look Kirby, you can't remember 245 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: because you're too young, but if you did some of 246 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 1: the things, I mean, you just can't do it anymore. 247 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: And we understand that. But you know, in defending what 248 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: happened back then, you know, we lived in a different 249 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: We are talking about thirty five years ago, that's right, 250 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: So we lived in a different world, right, just for 251 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: a set we're talking you know about the fun stuff 252 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: when you did the Morning show nine to twelve to 253 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: GB and. 254 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 2: May you covered some big, big tomics and went after 255 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: some people, some of them powerful. You know, as far 256 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 2: as people going after you, you must have got a 257 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: lot of death threats and things like that. 258 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: Had I had the public order rights squad camped out 259 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: my joint at Jura for about a month. It was 260 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: really funny and wrap that were part of that. I'd 261 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: taken on some bikeies about their behavior and there were 262 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: cameras out in the front of my place. I lived 263 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: on the acreage, and they came out and saw some 264 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: drive bys my front gate and it was nominees from 265 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: the bikes right and I won't name the officer. He 266 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: came out and viewed the material and they put the 267 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: police commission to put cars out in the front of 268 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: my place because they thought there might have been an 269 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: attempt to drive by something. But I was hundred and 270 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: eighty meters up the road with a hose was you 271 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: know anyway, And they'd be there until I left for 272 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: work in the morning, say at four o'clock, and you know, 273 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: they'd follow me to at the M two and then 274 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: let me go. And that went on for about a 275 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: month and It obviously made my family very nervous, but 276 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: I was not that worried about it. But then this Blake, 277 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: I'll never forget. He's about six foot seven, a copper 278 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: who's now retired. And he came to the front door 279 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: and knocked on the door and I answered it and 280 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: he said, good mate, hair go and he said, look 281 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: at that footage. He said, yeah, okay, he looked at it. 282 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: He said, yeah, they're only nominees, mate, They're not bikis. 283 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: They're just nominees. He said. They're wanting to be bikeies, 284 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: he said. And he said, one thing about the bike 285 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: is they hate getting involved with the media. They want 286 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: to fly under the radar. They don't want to be 287 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: causing drama with the media. So he said, I'll have 288 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: a talk to a couple of people, I guess the 289 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: sergeant at arms. And not only did the Blakes never 290 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: appear again, they were not no longer welcome because they 291 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: transgressed a line by threatening the media in a subtle 292 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: way by doing a drive by pass my place. There's 293 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: a funny story. I look. Both the Blakes are to 294 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: ceased now. But Bruce Galer was a colorful, colorful character 295 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: personally his son personally owned a golden slipper with the 296 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: called Eskamey Prince and the Gillier family were involved in 297 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: nightclubs and a whole range of other behavior. And Clive Galier, 298 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: who had been previously a solicitor and then spent some 299 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: time inside for I think this appropriation of money, ended 300 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: up as the man on the hill in Rugby League 301 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: Week and other places. And so anyway, I had a 302 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: shot at him in the normal course of events about 303 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: something he'd written or something like that. You know, probably 304 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: a bit personal, i'd imagine, and apparently his brother Bruce 305 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: took exception to it. And Bruce was pretty well connected. 306 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: So I was doing auctions for Jack Gibson for schizophrenia, 307 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: because that's what I used to do charity. Anyway, Jack 308 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: rang me up and he'd say, hey boy, you've got 309 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: a problem. I said, what's my problem? Jack? He said, 310 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: You've upset Bruce's little brother, and Bruce is not happy 311 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: with you. I said, oh yeah, and he said this 312 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: is about nineteen ninety three or four. He said, just 313 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: step away, He said, course, any problem for yourself. Okay. 314 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: I got a bit worried about this. You know. It 315 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: was pretty heavy, Blake and JACK'SAI advising me to drop off. 316 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: So I had an auction coming up. It'schizophony about a 317 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: month's time. So I got worried and I rang Judy, 318 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: Jack's wife. I said, it's Jack around here. I said, Jack, 319 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: I'm really unnerved by this, you know, I said, Am 320 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: I an any danger? He said, Son? He said, look, kid, kid, 321 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: He said, I'll keep you safe till the auction, but 322 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: after the auction you're on a fucking am And I said, Jack, 323 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: is that a jake? He said, yes, kid, He said yes, sweet? 324 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: What about Ray? 325 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: What about I mean the tragedy of the Link Cafe? 326 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: That lunatic mon monis he was coming at you Blake's 327 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: fair bit? 328 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: Do you have it? Was? He threatened? 329 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 3: Was he one of the guys that was threatening you? 330 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: Nah? I mean he was obviously a raving lunatic. But 331 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: that was the worst day of my life. That whole episode. 332 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: I was on air from nine o'clock to about six o'clock. 333 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: I stayed on air the whole day because what happened 334 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: the whole day, what happened through the course of the 335 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: events he had me on in the Link Cafe, and 336 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: it came to pass that the late Sandy Dawson, who 337 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: was senior counseling, a great mate of mine and Blake 338 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: I loved early. His sister, Katrina was one of the 339 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: casualties inside. She was also a lawyer. Katrina and Sandy 340 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: had contacted me through the course of the morning and said, 341 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: I think Katrina's in there. She'd gone down for coffee 342 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: with her pregnant girlfriend. So what happened was the other 343 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: young Blake, the manager had phoned the program and Monus 344 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: wanted him to go on air with me for the 345 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: Senate demands. So I came out of the studio and 346 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: I took the call and said, look, I'll have to 347 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: take advice. I don't know what to do here. You know, 348 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: we're in an uncharted territory. I don't put anyone's lass 349 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: at risk. So I rang both the Premier and Andrew 350 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: skipiated the police commissioner and asked what I should do, 351 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: and they said, don't put them the wear under any circumstances. 352 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: Under any he said, we'll get a police negotiator in 353 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: there to pretend he's you. So I stayed on air 354 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: past midday and I made an executive decision myself I 355 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: said to management, I'm staying here. I'm got to see 356 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: this through. I said, that's a very delicate situation. We've 357 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: got to you know, really, I can't let anyone near 358 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,479 Speaker 1: the microphone that might just think it's going to be 359 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: important to get someone on air from inside the cafe 360 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: like a news hound. We can't do that. We're going 361 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: to be resple This is uncharted territory. So I stayed 362 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: on air and he kept ringing. Then eventually the the 363 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: coy shadow came in and pretended to be me. He 364 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: take the call off air, obviously, and we had life 365 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: coverage coming in from seven to nine and ten on 366 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: the scene and all the rest of it, and you're 367 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: describing what was going on, and then it became apparent 368 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: through that he had a package on him when they 369 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: believed to be a bomb. It didn't turn out to 370 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: be a bomb, but the police at the time thought 371 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: it was a bomb, so they couldn't take him out 372 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: for fear of blowing up the whole cafe and killing 373 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,239 Speaker 1: him inside. They had a line of sight on him 374 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: at various stages to take him out, but he had 375 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: in his possession what appeared to be a bomb, and 376 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: he also told them he put he put a bomb 377 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 1: down the opera house at the time, you know. And 378 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: this is a blake who was given ba by a 379 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: district court judge and two magistrates on some very serious criminal. 380 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 3: Charges before this. 381 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: Ah, he should never have been out in light a day. Anyway, 382 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: I stayed on till six. I went home. I couldn't. 383 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: I spoke into Andy a number of times about the 384 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: fact that his sister, beautiful Katrina was still in there. 385 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: And by the next morning, at about two o'clock, it 386 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: came to a conclusion they took control of Lint Cafe. 387 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: Two people finished dead, Katrina one of them, and the 388 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: other young coffee manager. And I went back into work. 389 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: About three o'clock. Michael McLaren was on air, and he's 390 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: a young blake and I think he was struggling a 391 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: bit with an enormity of that. So I went on 392 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: with him and got through to breakfast when Ben Ben 393 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: was doing breakfast. Then I don't know who was doing breakfast, 394 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: but anyway, it was just a terrible day, a terrible day. 395 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: And then I got a call from Sandy mid morning 396 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: to say that he was desperate to find out, you know, 397 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: because they were sort of keeping at clothes shop the 398 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: police about what had happened, and his poor mum and 399 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: dad and his brother were concerned that their sister was deceased, 400 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: and eventually it was determined she was deceased friendly fire apparently. 401 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: And you know, there were judgments about the police at 402 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: subsequent inquests about what should have done and watched and 403 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: all the armchair experts, but really strangely, none of the 404 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: inquest revealed the deeds of the district court judge and 405 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: the two magistrates to allow this black bail. They never 406 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: were identified or I know who they are, but they 407 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: were never identified as the people that you'd locked the 408 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 1: bastard up in the first place. So that's perhaps, you know, 409 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: the worst broadcasting day we've ever had. 410 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 3: Y what about personally? And I don't know whether you 411 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 3: want to talk. 412 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: About I just thought there, you know, the situation where 413 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: you were and seeing bloke who's done so much for you, 414 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 2: I mean, the terrible tragedy with his daughter, and were 415 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: you he rang you? 416 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, after what happened at Bondi, we had all 417 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: these poor people deceased. The assailant also deceased at the 418 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: hands of a very brave police officer, and I started 419 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: getting calls from John about the fact that Downey was 420 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: there inside, and this was a subject of much investigation 421 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: by authorities. What do you do when your mate thinks 422 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: his daughter may have been murdered? What do you do? 423 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: You know? I wasn't on here, by the way, this 424 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,959 Speaker 1: was all private, so it was on the weekend, and anyway, 425 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: John Ringman said, mate, can you find out please? Someone 426 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: must know whether you know. They wouldn't identify the victims 427 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: obviously until positive identifications had taken place. So I rang 428 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: Karen web the police commissioner, who I had a personal 429 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: relationship with a professional personal rationally by mat and I 430 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: explained her with the circumstances. I said, look, I've got 431 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: a father who's my mate. I wanted to know whether 432 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: his daughter is one of the victims. And she said 433 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: what's her name? And I told her and she said, well, 434 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: you wouldn't be wrong. She didn't say you wouldn't be wrong, 435 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: and you know, she said you wouldn't be wrong in 436 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: assuming that, So you know, there were investigations later about 437 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: whether she denied she told me that, but I know 438 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: what she said. I mean, how do I then ring 439 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: John and say mate, Dawn's one of the victims, and 440 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: I was on the Gold case. It's one of the 441 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: toughest calls of about to make to a mate, and 442 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 1: there was all the drama about, you know, I hadlee 443 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,239 Speaker 1: revealed the I didn't reveal the details to anyone. I 444 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: told the father. I told my mate that I had 445 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: confirmed his daughter was deceased. I didn't. I didn't go 446 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: on air. I didn't irresponsibly broadcast the name of a victim. 447 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: I told the father who wanted to know whether his 448 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: daughter was deceased, and he was inconsolable, as was her mum. 449 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: And the thing on saying everyone else. But I mean, 450 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: given the same circumstances, I did the same thing again. 451 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: You know, if her father wrang me, people were making 452 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: a big deal of it. Some people thought I was 453 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: gone on air and I didn't do anything on it. 454 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: I wasn't on air. I was on a leave. Actually 455 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: I was away, and all I did was confirmed with 456 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 1: John that his daughter was deceased. You know. By the 457 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: next day, you know, John obviously told Juglie, his former 458 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: wife and other people that it was Dawn, and you know, 459 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: the grief they dealt with was beyond my comprehension. So 460 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to make a judgments on John, how do you. 461 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 4: Just does you speak about that incident, the Bondo incident 462 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 4: and the link cafe obviously the lint one you're actually 463 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 4: on air for it, and then you've got to, you know, 464 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 4: continue the rest of your work week after How how 465 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 4: much of an effect does that have on. 466 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: That still impacts me because since the death of Katrina, 467 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: Sandy's died of a brain shammer. He was a great mate, 468 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: came from a wealthy family, Eastern suburb, brilliant lawyer, brilliant 469 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: would have been a judge of the Supreme Court and 470 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: probably the High Court eventually, as was Katrina headed that way. 471 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: Wonderful mom and daddy. His father, Sandy Senior, was the 472 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: first and only Australian captain of the Royal and ancient 473 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: s Andrews. I mean, and they come from the Arnott family, 474 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: the one's biscuit family, so they are very and so 475 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: we were poles apart. I was a housing a mission product, 476 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: dealing with this blake who went to Cranbrook and was 477 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: a fantastic blake. And so I mean, I can't believe 478 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: the grief that's visited upon that family, the Dawson family. 479 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: They have a daughter deceased and now their beautiful boy 480 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: it's gone as well. You know, So that impacted me. 481 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: And I suppose when the well run dry and December 482 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: last year, those things all. You know, I'm not decrying 483 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: the fact that I was the one suffering, but you know, 484 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: it has an impact on you. And so when I 485 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: decided to go, I thought it was about time I went. 486 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and to a certain extent after 487 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: what's happened with the granddaughter, Laala with lacemia diagnosed on 488 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: the sixth of January, and she's got a two year 489 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: battle in front of the turns four on the thirty 490 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: first of August, and I can't believe the courage my 491 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: daughter Laura, and my son and lawd Brad is showing, 492 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: and other members of my family who were pitching in 493 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: Laura's mummy and Marie has been colossal. She's there at 494 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: every opportunity to help our daughter and our granddaughter. And 495 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: you know, but as I've said many times, Cooper on 496 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: one of eighty seven, I'm a member of eighty seven 497 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,239 Speaker 1: families every month where the children are diagnosed with some 498 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: life threatening illness lakemia, cancer or the like, and Lola's 499 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: one of them. And look, the one thing I'll say 500 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: about her on many things I would say about her, 501 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: she's the bravest little kid I've ever seen. I mean, 502 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: she's had this week lumber punctures, she's had seven of 503 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: those bone marrow biopsies. They stick her, they pray, but 504 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: as they must to save a life, and she just 505 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: turns up smiling a couple of days later and goes 506 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: through it all again, and I marvel at her courage. 507 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: And I mean, I've seen a lot of courageous people 508 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: in my life do a lot of courageous things, but 509 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: I've never seen anyone as courageous as my little granddaughter. 510 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: She's just unbelievable. And we won't know for two years 511 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: whether she beats it. People think, oh, yeah, you get lakemia, 512 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: you'r a cover. But it's a two year journey, full 513 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:06,239 Speaker 1: of treatment, full of chemo, full of pain, you know, 514 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: for a little girl. And I sit in the sideline 515 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: scratching my head, saying, how come it's our family. But 516 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: we're just one of many families facing it. And that 517 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: leads me to the conclusion that I'm probably better off 518 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: not working full time that you know, I do a 519 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: little bit to keep me going on Sky and You's 520 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: and the Telly and having a chat with you boys, 521 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: and doing some stuff for Steve Caley at Fox Sports. 522 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: But I mean, if I had to stump up every 523 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 1: day to halp us three, I don't think I could 524 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: do it. I don't have to say to Tom Malane 525 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: or the boys at GB Look, I can't go on. 526 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: I just can't. My mind's elsewhere. I mean, I spend 527 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: a lot of days dwelling on my little granddaughter. And 528 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: you know, I'm carried by the strength of my daughter 529 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: and my son in law and that little girl and 530 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: her siblings. She's got an older and younger sister, you know, 531 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: and that impacts the entire family. And it's really good. 532 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm doing this today. But next Sunday we all got 533 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: other for the first time in probably nine months, to 534 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: celebrate her fourth birthday. But you know, if anyone gets 535 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: a cold, they can't come. You know, many times I've 536 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: rung Laura and said, I say, it's not feeling too well. Well, Dad, 537 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: I'm sorry you can't come because you might have the 538 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: same problem, you know, and immunity systems collapse when you've 539 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: got lakemia. Therefore, you know infections, they're a month stay 540 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: in hospital or even worse. So anyway, it is what 541 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: it is, and we'll fight our way through. And I 542 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: have to, you know, be telling everyone in about a 543 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: month's time that she's perfect. 544 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, we'll say prayer for her. 545 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: Please do please do. I mean to people listening, if 546 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: you believe in prayer, say a prayer enough, and say 547 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: if you don't believe, say a prayer anyway. 548 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: Can't hurt you said you said the phrase for my 549 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: great mate Ray Warren Rabs. 550 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: Well, look, I've got to tell you something about the 551 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: great rabbers. We've been mates since way back in the 552 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties and I remember talking to him one day 553 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: and I said, Brad, I want to be a football 554 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: caller and a race caller. He said, listen, son, drop 555 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: my cast set on the compater raid North Meet. I'll 556 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: listened to it. We're still trying to find the cat. 557 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 5: He said, you're dropping into seventheen, not fifteen. That's not 558 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 5: my forty wimbossile. 559 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: And we used to get on the punt together at 560 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: a tab and North Mead and the bottle shop next 561 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: door used to cash checks. Grace used to cast the 562 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: checks for us. And if I got there before him 563 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: and cash a check, he'd say, I've been in to 564 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: see Gracie. There's no money left on the sae If. 565 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 5: I've told you before, the bottle shop is my domain. 566 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: And this is back in the eighties. You know so. 567 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: And there's a great story. There's many great stories about him. 568 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: But he said to me one day early in our association, 569 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: back in about I suppose probably eighty six eighty seven, 570 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: probably Classic the Ladies six. He was calling races for Club, 571 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: Superstation and on course and he's doing Newcastle. So ring 572 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: me one day he said, listen, He said, what are 573 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: you doing tomorrow? I said nothing. He said, come to Newcastle, 574 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: will be call a few races. He said, pick me 575 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: up at half as nine. We'll make our way up. 576 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: He made away and he said a bit of experience, 577 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: bring you monoclars with you and I said, okay, rap. 578 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: So I picked him up. I was the schaeffer. Basically 579 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: we got there. He said, look, he said, you're a 580 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: young race caller. He said, I want to give you 581 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: some experience. He said, you call races one, two and three. 582 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: I'll come up and do the remainder of the card. 583 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: I call races one, two, three, four, five and six. 584 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: And he's getting the money. I'm not getting paid. So 585 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: Ray Warren to the broadcast box, Ploysmith a Ray Warren 586 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: red face. Do he arise on the broadcast box? What's wrong? 587 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: I said, I've called six races. That's the problem with 588 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: your young blokes. 589 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 5: You don't experience the sort of joys and tribulations and 590 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 5: broadcasting like I. 591 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: Unappreciative. Shit, Get back in there. You're doing a good job. Done. 592 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: Stuff up the next couple. So he comes up before 593 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: the last race. He said, you bring a check book 594 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: with you and I said yeah, And I was getting 595 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: three hundred a week at this stage. He said, write 596 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: a check out of Dominic burn for three thousand, will you? 597 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: And I said three thousand. He said, yes, we've had 598 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of a loss here. I said, we've 599 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: had a little bit of a loss. I've had a bit. 600 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: I'm made out of the broadcast box. So we write 601 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: the check out. So he don't worry about it. I've 602 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: got to make manager called Tiles, the COMAF bank at 603 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: North Paramount of Tiles will sort this out. He said, 604 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: all those things called benk cards. Get a couple of them, 605 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: that'll sort it out. So anyway, we go back to 606 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,719 Speaker 1: see tiles the following day, going to the bank at 607 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: North Paramatta, the Comma Bank. Let me see Brian Tyler 608 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: place tiles. Tell him Bray Warren like to see. I'm sorry, missus. 609 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: Teller's on leave. Here's his replacement on mister Smith. But 610 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: we'll say mister Smith. So when we go, he said 611 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: to my colleague and I he said, we're thinking about it, 612 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: buying a carron each of East Ocean Beach and your minor. 613 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: Like I said, oh yeah. He said, what do you know? 614 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: You said, well, he said ten thousand should cover it. 615 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: He's five five five him. He said okay, he said 616 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: what rose it in? He said, what do you mean 617 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: what raw? He said, well, I've got one up there 618 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: and Ray b through. I mon't come back when Tarles 619 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: was on deck, So off we go, like you know, 620 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: make it up. So we come back when Tails is 621 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: on deck and we get this bloody bank card and 622 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: I think it was a thousand buck limit or something. 623 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,239 Speaker 1: So the maximum limit you can get at one time 624 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: one hundred cash. So rabs are on the Q ten 625 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,719 Speaker 1: times getting a thousand needs. So then I rushed down 626 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: to my bank manager at the bank in New South 627 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: Wales rest Riant to put the two thousand in and 628 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: then I have the light we were about getting the 629 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: other thousand and Rabs to this day denies my version 630 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: of the events, but I said I was the one 631 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: that I got in a Peter Cook, my back manager, 632 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: and begging to give you another thousand bucks over. Yesperate, 633 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: he was a desperate I mean what happened? Gary Harley 634 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: plays it rather than this? He rang me one day, RABS. 635 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: He says, your mates with Harley? I said, yes, your 636 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: mate with him? He said, yeah, I know, he said, 637 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: but he said, get Chris Lee's phone number for me, 638 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: will you? So I said, yeah, okay, So rang Harley, 639 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: give me Chris Lee's phone number. What four? I said, 640 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: don't worry about what for, just give it to me. 641 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,719 Speaker 1: So give it now, give it the rabs. So I 642 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: interviewed Chris Lee's on my radio show like a few 643 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: years back now and he said, I've been waiting to 644 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: talk to you. I said, well, he said, what did 645 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: you give Bray Warre on my phone number? He says, 646 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: I don't find him getting the tip, but he said 647 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: he wrings up there. He says, look, that's jockey. He 648 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: had one out in three back. He said, the horse 649 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: is going to be on the pace. He's going to 650 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: be outside the leader. He said. Not only was he 651 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: getting tips off, he's telling me how me jockey should ride. Advice. 652 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: I'll give advice. But I think that now Chris and 653 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: Rabs are together as one. 654 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, how's Rabs going in retirement? 655 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: Well, it's funny thing. He retired from golf about five 656 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: or six year ago. He Sterling replaced him. He used 657 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: to play with us on Monday with a couple of mates, Toney, 658 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: the big South Australian and the world's richest communist Kevin Kalis. 659 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: And he is already to copy with him this morning 660 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: on the way here. So anyway, and then he just 661 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: said one day I don't want to play anymore. We 662 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: said what And we used to have the best fun 663 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: with Rabs, you know. And then like we invited him 664 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: out for dinner and he's reluctant to go too far 665 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: from home, you know. And so we have a feed 666 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: at a place at Rouse Hill called Barbara's and it's 667 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: a lovely restaurant there but he just Chris Warren sums 668 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: at our best. I said, where's your father, Chris, a 669 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: good young black. He said he's retired from life. And 670 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: I still hear from him. Will text me about Lola 671 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: or text me about different things. And I text him. 672 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: The other day I interviewed Cliffy Lyones and I wanted 673 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: to know who the caller was at a Grand Final 674 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: when Cliffy was playing for gunder Guy and I said, 675 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: here would have been calling on too left young and 676 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: Rab said straight away it would have been this black Cliff. 677 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: He said, yeah, that's him. He said, what else do 678 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: you want to? Said nothing? So later look he I 679 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: think when you judge the great commentators in Australia, he's 680 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 1: a top the list. Not only could he call races, 681 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: he called Melbourne cups on Channel ten. He was an 682 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: accomplished race caller. He was about he as a rugby 683 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: league caller. He could turn his hand to anything. Swimming 684 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: means tennis. Is a good tennis player. For young Blake, 685 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: I could sit alongside him and I did in London 686 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: Olympics and I did the swimming on radio and he 687 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,720 Speaker 1: did it on TV. And you know, you make judgment 688 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: calls on how you called it, they're not here. Rabs back, 689 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: and I'm not in these classes, Blake. He's just a 690 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: bit better than everyone else. And you know, I think 691 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: that it's unfortunate that the modern day commentators on Channel 692 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: nine are compared to Rabs, because it's like comparing a 693 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: batsman to Brandon. 694 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. 695 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,439 Speaker 1: I mean, he's the best there ever was, I think, 696 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: and I value his friendship. I love him dearly. But 697 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: he's enigmatic, you know, he's if you've got something, he 698 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 1: wants it. And I'm talking about a disease. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 699 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 1: I had diabeticulitis, about a couple of bad cases of it. 700 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: So I ring him. He said, what are you doing? 701 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: They tell me in norwe's private. I so I got 702 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: diabeticular what's that? I said, information on the bow? Never 703 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,439 Speaker 1: had that? I said, do you want it? Because it's 704 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: not very nice? And then we had He tells a 705 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: funny story which I believe to be true. But we 706 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: had the same doctor doing colonoscopies, doctor Dev, you know, 707 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: and so we go alternatively to see him. So doctor 708 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: Dev does me every three years and Rabs every three years. 709 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: So although I don't think he does Rabs anymore, because 710 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: once you get past a certain age seventy five, that 711 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: won't do colonoscopies anymore. You know. They think it's a 712 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: waste of resources because you're going to die anything. 713 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 3: How's your coal on? 714 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 1: This? Is it good? I'm due ful one in December, 715 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: so hopefully everything will be fine with it. But they 716 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: follow polyps and to Blake's listening forty plus particularly, you've 717 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: got a history of bowel cancer, go and see your 718 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: doctor about a kolonoscopy, you know, and get a bowel check, 719 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: because it can be really fatal or it can be 720 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: really easy fixed by your doctor by having a colonoscopy. Anyway, 721 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: so Rabs goes to doctor Dev and you've got to 722 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: get in that crouch position for an examination with the digit, 723 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: you know. So Rabs reckons he's got his knees tucked 724 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: up under his chest, which I can't believe that he 725 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: would do that. But anyway, doctor Dev's examining him, and 726 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: the nurse walks in and says says, Rabs white ass, 727 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: And doctor Dev says, you wouldn't believe her this is. 728 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 5: And Rab said, yes, have a guess, and she says, well, 729 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 5: I haven't seen him at this angle before, but I 730 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 5: think it's Ray Hadley. 731 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: There's another one. We're going to Newcastle rabs it of 732 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,479 Speaker 1: all football, right, So we're going together. He's doing TV, 733 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm doing radio. So we get to the Twins surveys 734 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: heading north. So he says, I'm going and get a 735 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: cap of coffee. I said, okay, waiting the case. I'm 736 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: waiting the car. He gets and you want to cup 737 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: a copy? Yeah? So he gets battled up by a 738 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: black on the way in. So then this girl comes 739 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: out a bit later and needs a bit of consternation, 740 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: so he gets the cap. What happens are you wouldn't 741 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: fuck I believe it. It's happened again. I said what 742 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: he said? Well, the blake pulled me up, he said, 743 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm walking, He says, God struck me, pink. I didn't 744 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: think i'd see you here. He said, My daughter loves you. 745 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: Could you just wait here so I'll get a photo 746 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: with you. Wraps the look. I'm with a bit of 747 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: a hurries of a colleagues waiting in the car. But 748 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: if she's enamored with me, on more than happy. He 749 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 1: got the photograph, Shacon. So any way, a sure that 750 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: comes out of it Macus. He says, look, Darland, look 751 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: I got for you. She said, that's not Ray Hadley. Ah, 752 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: that's good, right. 753 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 4: If I asked you one more question, because I love 754 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 4: your brain, I love listening to talk. In all of 755 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 4: your broadcasting history, what's the one game that stands out 756 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 4: to you? 757 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: Ninety four State of origin Queensland in the northeastern corner, 758 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: Mark Coin, try calling that. Yeah, I was calling that. 759 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: They grab And the funny thing about that, Cooper is 760 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: a blake called John Lyons, who is now an ABC reporter. 761 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: At the time was working with the Sydney Morning Herald 762 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: and he and a colleague who was the big boss 763 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 1: of Sydney Morning Herald left and they left with five 764 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 1: of the goal and they put me on the radio 765 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: and I got a call from one of them the 766 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: next morning to say, we can't believe we left that 767 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: game five minutes early. It went through nearly every Queensland 768 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 1: set of hands from one end to the other, and 769 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: Coin finished it off in the corner. Melmourn ing was 770 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: instrumental as well, but that one stands out in general broadcasting. 771 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: I did the limb last year and the swimming was 772 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: fantastic by the girls. But there's one thing you know, 773 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: when you do a job or you play football, like 774 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: you two BLACKSAP with three BLACKSAP, and you think, well, 775 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: you know, I can't do any better than that. And 776 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: the best thing I've ever done was Kathy Freeman's four 777 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: hundred in Sydney in the year two thousand. You got 778 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand people in the stadium. She's a favorite 779 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: to win Marie Perrex withdrawing the French girls. She didn't come. 780 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 1: She'd won the gold at Landa. When Kathy got the silver, 781 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: she got the weight to the world on her shoulders. 782 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: And so I thought about it and thought about it 783 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 1: and thought about it, and thought, I can't stuff this 784 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: up field of eighth staggered start in front of your 785 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 1: other four hundred, and you're in an open broadcast area. 786 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: You're not in a box. You're in an open area 787 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: with all the crowd down the back. She goes, and 788 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: of course she explodes away. I think I said, here's 789 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: her date with destiny. Kathy Freeman wins and self examination. 790 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 1: I got home that night and I thought, well, could 791 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: I have done it better? And every time you do 792 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: a broadcast you think you can do better, and I thought, no, 793 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: that's I won't ever do a better call than that 794 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: Freeman's four hundred. So later that year they had the 795 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: thing called the Acres the RA Awards. So I'm nominated 796 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: best Sports Coverage Kathy Freeman's four hundred win. So I'm 797 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 1: seated there nominees AFL Grand Final, rex Hunt. So I'm 798 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: sitting in the chair. I won thirty five of these eventually, 799 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: and I think he's another one coming my way. Best 800 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 1: call of it, but done, so you know, you lift 801 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 1: out of your chair reach of notes and. 802 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 5: The winner best sporting event in the year two thousand, 803 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 5: Rex Hunting the AFL Grand Final. 804 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: I thought, fuck me, as kind of black as he is. 805 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: And then I thought later, you know, I one sum 806 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have won. In the thirty five I won, 807 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 1: but I should have won that one. But anyway, that 808 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,399 Speaker 1: that and Ian Thorpe's four one hundred win against Gary 809 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: Hall Junior the week before was great as well. But 810 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: that that's that's my best sporting moment Kathy from in 811 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: year two thousand, followed by Mark Coin and thirty five 812 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: Grand finals Cooper, every one of them. You know, I 813 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: can barely remember the early ones, but every one of 814 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 1: them are really treasured memory. 815 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much, mate, Thanks for your time today. 816 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 3: I really appreciate you know what. 817 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: I love being here with you, Jack Cooper and you 818 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: Maddie and we look we have been mates for a 819 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: long long time. And you know, like I said earlier, 820 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: I still got people. Yet he's not at the Girls 821 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,959 Speaker 1: and Gage anymore. All the rest of the Trish won't 822 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: let him go down with the card table. But Jesus, 823 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: we've had some fun through the years, great fun. Yes, 824 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: thanks for talking to me. 825 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 3: Thanks mate,