WEBVTT - What Bryce And Melissa Couldn't Say Util Now... (Full Interview) 

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome back to the Maths Funny podcast with

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<v Speaker 1>me Joshua Fox. As you guys know, I recently welcomed

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<v Speaker 1>Lachlan Gerton and Tylie Pritchard from the Confessions of a

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<v Speaker 1>Reality Start podcast into the Mass Funny Family and onto

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<v Speaker 1>my podcast feed here, and they did a great chat

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<v Speaker 1>with Tory all about her recent split from Jack, which

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<v Speaker 1>you guys all listened to, and after I listened to that,

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of fascinated with this part of what

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<v Speaker 1>is it actually like for the villain couples that do

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<v Speaker 1>stay together once to show ends, because like, how much

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<v Speaker 1>does that noise from viewers and their co stars and

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<v Speaker 1>even the experts who are all slating their relationship and

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<v Speaker 1>wanting them to fail, how much does it actually impact them?

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<v Speaker 1>So on this this week, Lachlan and Tylie are sat

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<v Speaker 1>down with Bryce and Melissa to talk about well this

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<v Speaker 1>and what it's been like for them because obviously, during

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<v Speaker 1>their season in twenty twenty one, they became arguably one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most disliked pairings of all time. But since

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<v Speaker 1>then they've kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Proved everybody wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>They've married for real.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got two beautiful children who you can hear playing

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<v Speaker 1>around them during this interview, and some of the things

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<v Speaker 1>they said during this interview even I was surprised about,

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<v Speaker 1>including the phone call that Bryce received from expert mel

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<v Speaker 1>Shilling long after filming wrapped, which I'm not sure she's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna want people to know about, but Bryce said it,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you guys can hear it.

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<v Speaker 3>Enjoy.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Bryce and Melissa, thanks for coming on Confessions of

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<v Speaker 2>a Reality Star.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, thank you for having us.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's been four years since you guys are on

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<v Speaker 5>our TV screens. You're quite a controversial couple. People to

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<v Speaker 5>this day still have like a lot of commentary, a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of judgment about your relationship. How does it feel

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<v Speaker 5>like four years on you have become a success story,

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<v Speaker 5>but to still have people feeling like they know you

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<v Speaker 5>and that they have the right to comment on you

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<v Speaker 5>guys and where you're at.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, we were on a reality TV show, so we've

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<v Speaker 4>left ourselves open to have our relationship assessed and judged

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<v Speaker 4>by everybody. So it just it just comes with it.

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<v Speaker 4>So long as we know our own relationship, that's perfectly fine.

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<v Speaker 4>But honestly, it doesn't. It doesn't. It used to really

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<v Speaker 4>upset me because now I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, look, I think twelve months post show it probably

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<v Speaker 3>affected us more, and more so me because I was

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<v Speaker 3>probably the brund of it and probably caused that controversial tank.

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<v Speaker 3>But honestly, now our foye is online, it's like a

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<v Speaker 3>dropped off. To be fair, probably when we got married

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<v Speaker 3>for real, I reckon that we kind of just went night.

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<v Speaker 3>I might be completely wrong with my judgment, but the

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<v Speaker 3>way that I see now is we're kind of lost

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<v Speaker 3>it and it's just all love and support. Which it's

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<v Speaker 3>a nice feeling because it kind of would be good

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<v Speaker 3>to have that feeling four years ago when we're doing

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<v Speaker 3>the show.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, and I guess there's been so many other people

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<v Speaker 5>now that have gone through the show experience and can

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<v Speaker 5>kind of.

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<v Speaker 6>Take the label right. Each year there's a different villain.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so funny. I did an interview a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>months ago and Matt started this season like we've heard

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<v Speaker 3>this and that about certain people, and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you never know until you see come out. But honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>some of these blokes made me look like an absolute state.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I was like base level, Like these guys are

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<v Speaker 3>common ever, so they they hit the top like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how they're going to get any worse than

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<v Speaker 3>some of these guys. I hate judging them saying that

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<v Speaker 3>they're worse than ready because everyone is kind of under

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<v Speaker 3>the same lebel end of the day's a villain or whatnot,

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<v Speaker 3>or controversial, but people do other things like that are

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<v Speaker 3>a bit more controversial than myself, like unin punchable, but

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<v Speaker 3>I gave a chickah that I should not and really

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<v Speaker 3>get doing. So there's different worlds, but I probably don't

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<v Speaker 3>think they were a bit more controversial than me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting thinking back, like so much has obviously happened

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<v Speaker 2>in the four years since you're on the show. You've

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<v Speaker 2>had your twins, you've gotten married in real life, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's easy to almost forget about the mass experience. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure you've tried to many times. But in preparing for

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<v Speaker 2>this interview, we kind of went back that headspace of

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty one news cycle. We found a few

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<v Speaker 2>headlines just to kind of bring back the I guess

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that you were in the headlines pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>every day every week, especially you bryce. These are some

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<v Speaker 2>of the headlines that stood out. The man who made

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<v Speaker 2>me turn off married at first sight for good heavy,

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<v Speaker 2>it's us against the world. Married at First Sights Melissa

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<v Speaker 2>and Bryce forcefully deny claims their relationship is toxic. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there were investigations. Married at First Sight has been cleared

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<v Speaker 2>by a media watchdog overclaims of gas lighting. In its

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<v Speaker 2>latest eighth season, Bryce and Melissa's season of Married at

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<v Speaker 2>First Site cleared of breach over abuse complaints. And then

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't even just the news cycle. There were also

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<v Speaker 2>lawyers weighing in is Bryce from Married at First Sight

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<v Speaker 2>committing family violence?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I do remember that one.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually hear that one of you.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, that was one of the only ones that I

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<v Speaker 4>did see us our screenshot is that Actually that was yeah, very.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you're surprised them the last one. I didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>the last one. The other ones I've heard of because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't read some repeat But look, I guess similar

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<v Speaker 3>to like the previous seasons the last couple of years,

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<v Speaker 3>Like there's a narrative and the media help drive it

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<v Speaker 3>and not say singling you two for example. But there's

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<v Speaker 3>like people that are in space that you guys are too,

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<v Speaker 3>like whether it's podcasts like your news outlets, they do

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<v Speaker 3>drive a narrative that's given to them from the lie

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<v Speaker 3>or in the mole, and like it's just it comes out.

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<v Speaker 3>You hear people say how they're showing and what loo

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<v Speaker 3>it's it is true, Like it's not great to hear

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<v Speaker 3>test's going out and say, hey, look it's the ed.

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<v Speaker 3>But you've got to think what you've seen is clearly

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<v Speaker 3>there and was part of myself, asks people doing the experiment,

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<v Speaker 3>but what wasn't shown as well because you can't fit

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<v Speaker 3>everything in. So there's obviously more to someone than what

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<v Speaker 3>you see on that show, which is I guess why

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<v Speaker 3>people and you say to me more than anyone, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I said, to gravitate towards people who get the villain label,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't know whether it's the empathy that I've

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<v Speaker 3>been their shoes and they reach out and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>how is it? How do you hear look like you

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<v Speaker 3>navigate this craziness. But to be honest with the pop

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<v Speaker 3>I get the villain at it. On these shows, a

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<v Speaker 3>number of the genuinely nice people away from the show,

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<v Speaker 3>the ones that get the great label and look like

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<v Speaker 3>angels and get the good at it, are onto the

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<v Speaker 3>ones with the biggest egos. They're very much so self

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<v Speaker 3>absorbed and they're not nice people. So it's yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>so funny how this show creates characters and then you

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<v Speaker 3>get headlines like that, which I'll create a character as

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<v Speaker 3>well in the public space.

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<v Speaker 5>Why do you think that is too with the people

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<v Speaker 5>that kind of go on to maybe get the good

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<v Speaker 5>edit so to speak. Do you think production or the

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<v Speaker 5>network sees something in them to propel them into like

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<v Speaker 5>a more celebrity status or whatever it is?

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<v Speaker 3>Bitty yes, and though to me, I purely put it

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<v Speaker 3>down to heavy to be a producer puppet, like you're

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<v Speaker 3>happy to be the one that goes and starts a

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<v Speaker 3>drama like this year we saw Jamie on that, so

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<v Speaker 3>like I've never met Jamie, that was spokano, but you

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<v Speaker 3>can clearly tell her she was in there being told

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<v Speaker 3>if Nation from produced sty you go and did a party?

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<v Speaker 3>If you say this you so that bring it up

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<v Speaker 3>like she's only been shown that context of creating conversations

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<v Speaker 3>amongst the dinner table or in a group setting. So

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<v Speaker 3>that is such an obvious sign that the producers loved her.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, people like people didn't enjoy it. I've got

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<v Speaker 3>nixed feelings on how I felt towards up sound good

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<v Speaker 3>so bad? Yeah, I don't know if just to me,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a prime example this year with Jamie. She was

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<v Speaker 3>clearly producing puppet and they're trying to hate a picture

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<v Speaker 3>up Now. I might be wrong, she might be lovely, and.

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<v Speaker 5>Hopefully she is Melissa for you. Obviously Bryce did get

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<v Speaker 5>the villain at it. You had a lot of people

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<v Speaker 5>weighing in, whether it was media, whether it was fans

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<v Speaker 5>of the show, whether it was people on the show.

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<v Speaker 6>How was that experience for you?

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<v Speaker 5>Because correct me, if i we're onto Bryce, I think

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<v Speaker 5>in once at any interview, maybe that you know, Melissa

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<v Speaker 5>did speak up for herself. You guys had all these

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<v Speaker 5>chats and whatever, and it just was never shown.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 4>It was quite a disappointing experience looking back on it

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<v Speaker 4>now considering what we lived through and what actually happened

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<v Speaker 4>during our time filming, but then to see what was

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<v Speaker 4>shown it was it was just so just so starkly

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<v Speaker 4>different to what I'd lived and having people weigh in

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<v Speaker 4>on our relationship. I clearly wasn't in a very I

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't an experienced personal relationship, so I was hearing all

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<v Speaker 4>these difference in opinion from people from all over the

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<v Speaker 4>world about how my relationship should be. And look, the

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<v Speaker 4>relationship was ever perfect, one perfect from the beginning. We

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<v Speaker 4>never that wasn't ever something that we were trying to promote.

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<v Speaker 4>But we were happy with our relationship and we were

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<v Speaker 4>building on it, and we were complete strangers when we

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<v Speaker 4>first met, so of course it was never going to

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<v Speaker 4>be perfect. But having everybody have their say, people are

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<v Speaker 4>obviously providing their own real life examples and situations, and

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<v Speaker 4>looking back, it wasn't great at the time, but now

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<v Speaker 4>I see it as an opportunity that the show has,

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<v Speaker 4>mainly from our season, opened the door to discussions about narcissism,

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<v Speaker 4>gas lighting, coercive control, all of those horrible relationship you know,

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<v Speaker 4>incidents that happened that many people have gone through, and

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<v Speaker 4>what may have been perceived as what happened with us,

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<v Speaker 4>I think isn't true. It is edited, The whole series

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<v Speaker 4>is edited. But I think it was a good opportunity

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<v Speaker 4>for that conversation to open that door for those conversations,

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<v Speaker 4>and here we are now. I think that would be

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<v Speaker 4>highlighted as one of the top words gas lighting, narcissism.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we probably put it in a mass dictionary, So

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's.

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<v Speaker 4>A good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>No fact, when you both watched the show, and even

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<v Speaker 2>now when you look back after four years, what would

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<v Speaker 2>you each say was your biggest regret from the whole experience.

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<v Speaker 3>For biggest regrets, I definitely have to put up there,

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<v Speaker 3>don't that's the biggest. But the biggest I would be

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<v Speaker 3>being so gullible to retreat experience. Obviously it didn't look

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<v Speaker 3>good and I haven't said that on the show. It

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<v Speaker 3>didn't reflect Whine as a person, that whole interaction with

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<v Speaker 3>back I kind of would have just stuck to my

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<v Speaker 3>guns all that night and just separated myself from everyone,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you can go back and see it. UK was

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<v Speaker 3>like clearly away from everyone else, like at the very

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<v Speaker 3>edge of around chair, Like it's we couldn't have tried

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<v Speaker 3>to yeah situation anymore if we try. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's what we might be to regret, because just what

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<v Speaker 3>followed in the show added. But I agree with everything

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<v Speaker 3>that was being written because it did all that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Like for me, it's an outside I didn't look anything

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<v Speaker 3>else but that it's just being completely stupid, so I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 4>There's nothing I really regret that maybe just I was.

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<v Speaker 4>I was so open and honest, but it just sort

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<v Speaker 4>what edits without? Like you know, people go, you didn't

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<v Speaker 4>stand up for yourself. You're a doormat and you only

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<v Speaker 4>see an hour an hour's worth of footage while we're filming,

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<v Speaker 4>as everybody says, twelve fourteen, sixteen hours a day.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Just it was It's funny, like how was just said

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<v Speaker 3>about being open and honest? Like people probably think that

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<v Speaker 3>my biggest regrett is put in with fourth in that

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<v Speaker 3>I must forget off forgot that one. That's obviously regret

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<v Speaker 3>because of what hindsight's a wonderful thing. But at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time too, being honest in those early stages kind

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<v Speaker 3>of built the foundation for our stories today. Like there's

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<v Speaker 3>obviously context missing at conversations like at that I put

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<v Speaker 3>in the retreat, but I said, look, would I go

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<v Speaker 3>up to you? Are probably not the rest of that

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<v Speaker 3>conversation went to But that's why I've come to it's

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<v Speaker 3>a mass the experiment to change my way to go

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<v Speaker 3>other that sort of real niche target. I was looking

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<v Speaker 3>for a female so but again that didn't make for

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<v Speaker 3>interesting TV. So it's like, oh, would I go up

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<v Speaker 3>to the bar. Probably not slice sites cut it out

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<v Speaker 3>so it's you can see what but that whole conversation

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<v Speaker 3>yourself looks negative on screen, but actually there at the

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<v Speaker 3>time was good care.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, what was that experience?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>When the show starts airing on TV? You're kind of

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<v Speaker 2>reliving the lowest of lows in your relationships and the

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<v Speaker 2>moments of the fights and when you're not talking to

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<v Speaker 2>each other, and then you find out that you are pregnant,

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<v Speaker 2>which is arguably one of the highest of highs in

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship. How did you navigate that experience?

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<v Speaker 4>It was difficult. Thankfully we had a good support network

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<v Speaker 4>around us in terms of our family and friends. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it was. It was tricky, but I basically just shut

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<v Speaker 4>myself off from the show it being filmed, it aired,

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<v Speaker 4>there was nothing we could do about it except about

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<v Speaker 4>living our lives. And probably more fortunate for us that

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<v Speaker 4>we didn't want because we weren't, because we weren't a

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<v Speaker 4>couple that were considered successful. Even though we were, you

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<v Speaker 4>didn't see us all of the billboards and at the

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<v Speaker 4>lots of Grammy's getting invited that like we we obviously weren't.

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<v Speaker 4>We weren't put up in spotlights, which you know, it

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<v Speaker 4>was sad at the time and still is because you

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<v Speaker 4>want to be you want to you want your relationship

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<v Speaker 4>to be, to be you know, loved and appreciated and

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<v Speaker 4>shown as being successful. But it's what made us quite humble.

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<v Speaker 4>And we've just gone back to our lives. We still

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<v Speaker 4>do things with social media and you know, go to

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<v Speaker 4>the odd event here, and then you know, we've got jobs, family,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we still struggle to make ends meet with finances.

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<v Speaker 4>We're just like everybody else at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 5>It is interesting you bring that up too, because I

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<v Speaker 5>think it was like, obviously the twenty nineteen season, the

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<v Speaker 5>Jewels and cam love story was so promoted and whatever,

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<v Speaker 5>and then you guys are like the most successful couple

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<v Speaker 5>from your season, and what were you just like dropped?

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<v Speaker 5>Did you feel like dropped by the network? Not supported

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<v Speaker 5>by the network?

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<v Speaker 3>I looked to me, there was ever that Camon Jewels

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<v Speaker 3>Love network anyway, So you can't be if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have it. I really languish that we've.

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<v Speaker 4>Had just the support even to even today. Deright that

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<v Speaker 4>for me, like you watch Max still, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I watched it this season and I haven't watched it

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<v Speaker 4>since our season. And you know, psychology and psychiatrists are expensive.

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<v Speaker 4>You know that's that's older is still there that I

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<v Speaker 4>still have to pay for myself now, So even just

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit of support, you know, he and go,

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<v Speaker 4>here's a lifetime psychiatrist for you would have been great,

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<v Speaker 4>but left to our own devices, now we're on our own.

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<v Speaker 2>There have only been a handful of couples that are

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<v Speaker 2>still together after being matched by the experts. So it

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<v Speaker 2>is a bit wild to think that you guys, being

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<v Speaker 2>one of that small group that you're not celebrated by

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<v Speaker 2>a Channel nine. Is not this recognition from fans that wow,

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<v Speaker 2>they are the ones that made it. Have you had

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<v Speaker 2>those sort of discussions or any discussions with other success

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<v Speaker 2>couples about what it's like or is there a private

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<v Speaker 2>group chat of all the math success stories. Is there

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that.

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<v Speaker 3>For a chat and saying good she might to others

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<v Speaker 3>but not us on a level. But yeah, no, there's not.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember when Jack and Tory last year we caught

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<v Speaker 3>up with them and had a bit of a chat,

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<v Speaker 3>like just about general life and whatnot. Obviously no longer

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<v Speaker 3>to get up, but that like I suppose like that

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<v Speaker 3>was still keen to sort of have a chat and whatnot,

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<v Speaker 3>like heard nothing from Ree and Jeff Jack and like

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<v Speaker 3>people reach out to us have to have a conversation,

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<v Speaker 3>like I'll never go and reach out to them that way.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like if people want to touch base us and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>how do you navigate this crypt et cetera, I'm having

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<v Speaker 3>answer afraid or have a chat or like respond to

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<v Speaker 3>a message like I'm not going to be rare and

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<v Speaker 3>just ignore it because I would have appreciated that support

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<v Speaker 3>when we did it. So that's why I look at it.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, it's just I don't know, like in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of the whole thing. Celebrated the news like and having

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<v Speaker 3>that connection, it's like it is what it is. Like

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<v Speaker 3>remember last year we were in Sydney and we had

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<v Speaker 3>someone from Channel nine was a digital team, was something

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<v Speaker 3>to us about they were asking those dinner party things

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<v Speaker 3>they do on the website. If we were ask if

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<v Speaker 3>we were interested in doing it, because I said that

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<v Speaker 3>are really keen to do it. Anytime that something goes

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<v Speaker 3>up about us, it's their biggest hits on their website,

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<v Speaker 3>so they want to try and make something of it.

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<v Speaker 7>Was it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we have a conversation you want, never had the conversation,

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<v Speaker 3>never came Duncan and never learned doing it. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>like stuff like that. And honestly, dugd is a great blake.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know much about Evelyn, but Dublan's cool. But I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just like, that's a prime example, like they test the waters,

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<v Speaker 3>something must happen, and then never ranged bacs. It's like,

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<v Speaker 3>you probably probably do it because we'll give people a

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<v Speaker 3>different perspective on us as actual novel people speaking to

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<v Speaker 3>you now. So I think maybe it's a case that

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<v Speaker 3>Channel and Iron just doesn't want to admit that they

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<v Speaker 3>will roll with us. Maybe that's the case. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that specific example is interesting because Duncan and Evelyn,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've always had great interactions with them. I

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<v Speaker 2>like them as a couple, but they weren't a couple

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<v Speaker 2>matched by the experts. They're not a success story. And

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<v Speaker 2>when nine has this small group of success stories to

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<v Speaker 2>choose from, that instead championning this other mismatched couple. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>It wouldn't been.

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<v Speaker 4>Nice just to even you know, they said, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>after after filming, you know, you just don't hear from production. Ever, again,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't hear from the psychologist that you spoke to

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, gave everything to everything about your life

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<v Speaker 4>too for months, and it's yeah, it's just it's just silence.

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<v Speaker 4>And it just wouldn't been nice even if they were,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they someone that EPs had quite a bit

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<v Speaker 4>to say about us after the show, and it just

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<v Speaker 4>would have been nice eating to get in the room

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<v Speaker 4>and sit down and actually say hey, like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>clear the air maybe, or or go okay, well, this

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<v Speaker 4>is why you know, you were purely there for entertainment.

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<v Speaker 4>It just it just kind of was like crickets.

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<v Speaker 3>So I will bring up one situation that did happen

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<v Speaker 3>poshow that surprised me when we announced that we're engaged

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<v Speaker 3>and expecting the boys. I remember I put a post

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<v Speaker 3>up at the time and might even been a story,

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<v Speaker 3>and someone read it was like a Q box and

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<v Speaker 3>someone put on there had the experts and have reached

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<v Speaker 3>out to checking and see how you're going. And I

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<v Speaker 3>put somebody like, you're kidding yourself, right, like you saw

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<v Speaker 3>how I treated this. To her credit, I'll give her

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<v Speaker 3>a slight bit of credit. Mel Shirling actually reached out

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<v Speaker 3>ya Instagram and said, hey, Bryce, don't give you a call.

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<v Speaker 3>So I remember, we're in a car driving from Mornington

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<v Speaker 3>up to Norwourn in the city, which is about for

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<v Speaker 3>those who don't know, gift to me as the car,

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<v Speaker 3>and she calls when we're driving up there, and that

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<v Speaker 3>conversation was a bit. It was interesting because she's like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know that, like technical, we're not allowed to do this.

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<v Speaker 3>We can't follow participants, we're not supposed to speak to them,

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<v Speaker 3>contracting all sort of stuff like even doing this now,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm breaking my contractual agreemance with Trail Run. At end

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<v Speaker 3>of myle and I said, I was very polite, so off,

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<v Speaker 3>but in my mind, we're getting your full shit because

0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:53.480
<v Speaker 3>you follow ex participant. You always commentated on me, so

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen you responding on place and I'm like again,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like it's that, it's one thing I can't say.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like fake your us and like respect to

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<v Speaker 3>mel don't know she's gone through some personal stuff and

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<v Speaker 3>to help them, I hope to go well. Same time

0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:09.560
<v Speaker 3>to him, like it's that fake. Nice to be fair

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<v Speaker 3>of John, Like if John ever called me, I'd tell

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<v Speaker 3>him to go jump, because he to me, was probably

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<v Speaker 3>the most fake out of all of them. Off camera,

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<v Speaker 3>you'd go through the hallways at that warehouse, like Bryce

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<v Speaker 3>mate in the last side. Always loved it on the couch,

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<v Speaker 3>so Bryce told me while we were Dickhead, and then

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of the expa me. He's like, Bryce,

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<v Speaker 3>I made it. Loved watching you. I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 3>watch a back Australia and I love watching you. They're

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, Hey, where was the damn from

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<v Speaker 3>john saying congrats guys on them getting engaged in the twins,

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<v Speaker 3>like very happy for you, like fake nice I saw

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<v Speaker 3>summed him up so perfectly, and I'm so glad that

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<v Speaker 3>he got a Josh box that got the video of

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<v Speaker 3>him like the Current Affairs style have you like? That

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<v Speaker 3>was him to a tee, Like I never college on

0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:56.959
<v Speaker 3>stuff on so medi about masks, but that's one thing

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<v Speaker 3>I had to because I was like, he literally summed

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<v Speaker 3>it up in a sixty secondary on Instagram. What Johnny's

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<v Speaker 3>like as a person like that was so like, don't

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<v Speaker 3>know the right word, like contradicting of him and any

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<v Speaker 3>he says like the legal and Josh saying I'll make

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<v Speaker 3>you do this. I'm like, mate, what's yourself back on

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<v Speaker 3>this reel? What just on the show? And then how

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<v Speaker 3>you can duct this off off camera while filming show

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<v Speaker 3>and then work out why people don't have that respect

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<v Speaker 3>or positive to say about you?

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<v Speaker 4>And now you know why production does the likes.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, in that conversation with mel two, how long did

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<v Speaker 5>it go for? So did she kind of was she

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<v Speaker 5>like apologetic about anything or was it more like congrats guys?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, apologizing that apologizing, but like I was saying that

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<v Speaker 3>she was happy for us and was probably about her

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen minute call. And yeah, it was like just saying

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<v Speaker 3>I like this more so explaining why she hadn't reached

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<v Speaker 3>up personally like Alessandra. To be fair, she's got an excuse.

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<v Speaker 3>She was on the outside of the world. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 3>also has Instagram all I've gone at the distance. But

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<v Speaker 3>so again it's that sort of you know, but again

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<v Speaker 3>respect that she reached out you whatnot. Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 3>an interesting folk called. Again, I can imagine a Maths contract.

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<v Speaker 6>I wanted to throw to our surprise guest question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes we got sent a mystery question.

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<v Speaker 6>No it's John.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to send a question from a maths participant.

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<v Speaker 2>They were on your season. I think you have a

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<v Speaker 2>good relationship with them, so you don't have to turn

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<v Speaker 2>to be stressed about this. But this is what they

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<v Speaker 2>had to say.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, guys, it's Belle. I hope you're doing well in Queensland,

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<v Speaker 8>but I miss you down here in Melwoyn. So I've

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<v Speaker 8>always been a big supporter of your relationship. I feel

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<v Speaker 8>like you guys have always been super strong and gotten

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<v Speaker 8>through anything. So my question for you would be what

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<v Speaker 8>advice would you give couples that are facing outside judgment

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<v Speaker 8>or opinions about their relationship, whether this comes from family

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<v Speaker 8>or friends or random people. I know you guys unfortunately

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<v Speaker 8>experienced a lot of that in your relationship, and I

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<v Speaker 8>think it does happen to a lot of couples. So

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<v Speaker 8>what advice would you give those couples that are facing

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<v Speaker 8>that sort of negative judgment and opinions?

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<v Speaker 3>Good luck? I do love we love Belt.

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<v Speaker 2>So for anyone that doesn't know, that was Belinda from

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<v Speaker 2>your season Great Friends, now one of the only two

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<v Speaker 2>people that you're still in touch with, mel, how would

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<v Speaker 2>you answer that.

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<v Speaker 4>This was a question that came up a few times

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<v Speaker 4>over the years when people would message me.

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<v Speaker 9>And say, you know, thank you for highlighting your relationship

0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 9>by I often get I don't get the same level

0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:51.119
<v Speaker 9>of support and from my own family and friends that

0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:53.119
<v Speaker 9>say that my relationship.

0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:56.600
<v Speaker 4>Is unhealthy or toxic. I think it was just for

0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:58.960
<v Speaker 4>our relationship. It was a good opportunity to open those

0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:02.560
<v Speaker 4>doors for discussion and people know if they're in a

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:07.240
<v Speaker 4>relationship that's not healthy or there's there's underlying issues. It's

0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:10.720
<v Speaker 4>just about a matter of being able to have those

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:15.800
<v Speaker 4>open conversations, recognize the signs where you may be struggling.

0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 4>You may need support outside of the existing support you

0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:25.040
<v Speaker 4>have now, whether it be professional support, but it is.

0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:28.000
<v Speaker 4>It is a tricky one because nobody knows your relationship

0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:31.600
<v Speaker 4>but you, and you're the only person that can fix it.

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:34.359
<v Speaker 4>So it's hard because I don't want to be I

0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:37.400
<v Speaker 4>don't want to be a relationship expert. What I went

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 4>through is vastly different to what people go through in

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:43.560
<v Speaker 4>their day to day lives, and I would just suggest

0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:46.600
<v Speaker 4>reaching out to somebody that you trust, maybe someone that's

0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:50.879
<v Speaker 4>not in your inner circle, but more so where mental

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:55.600
<v Speaker 4>health plans or an option getting that professional support. That's

0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:56.160
<v Speaker 4>what I did.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's been the most common message where you get

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:03.399
<v Speaker 3>since the shows like watching you two still being together

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:05.960
<v Speaker 3>on the show and backing each other up kind of

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 3>reminded them of their own relationships, saying, oh, like my

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:12.280
<v Speaker 3>parents or like our family don't like our partner, but

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:14.119
<v Speaker 3>we've got a really good relationship and we know we do.

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 3>It's like, well, I always sort of have said to

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:19.720
<v Speaker 3>people that come from the street and basically said that

0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 3>it's like, well, just back yourself, being like, if you've

0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 3>got your gun feeling that it's right for you, then

0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:26.400
<v Speaker 3>see it out and then at some point it might

0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 3>come a time where that judgment does change. That could

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 3>happen for us one day. It highly is very likely

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:34.680
<v Speaker 3>it won't touch because she's a keep up for life,

0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:38.399
<v Speaker 3>but that can happen, and like feelings change, like there

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:41.400
<v Speaker 3>was no secret post or appreciator. Sorry that I'd been

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:44.200
<v Speaker 3>a couple of relationships, some were good, some were not good,

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 3>just a fore you. But so like I'm going to

0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:51.399
<v Speaker 3>feel like I've learned from different legships in the past

0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:55.400
<v Speaker 3>and brought into our current relationship and that's what's making

0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:57.480
<v Speaker 3>it work because I've made mistakes in the past and

0:25:57.520 --> 0:26:01.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm the boss. Yeah, And basically, whereas pans purpose so

0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:02.199
<v Speaker 3>I do.

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:05.359
<v Speaker 4>That's what massed in me, and that's a.

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 3>Pretty much the case. At the same time too, it's

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 3>like when you know what you've got between the two

0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:14.920
<v Speaker 3>of you and having that communication, Like we definitely argue

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:19.359
<v Speaker 3>and have disagreements more often than probably not, but we

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 3>get over them very quickly, we resolve it, we move on.

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 3>But then that's kind of built the foundation of our

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:26.240
<v Speaker 3>marriage what it is now so.

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 5>Kind of interesting, I think too, Like that's what a

0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:33.120
<v Speaker 5>real relationship is, where sometimes on the show, the success

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 5>couples are the ones that they're not even shown arguing

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 5>or they're not shown having disagreements, whereas, like we all know,

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 5>in real life, when you're part of a partnership, you

0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:43.920
<v Speaker 5>don't agree on every single thing, or you have moments

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:45.720
<v Speaker 5>where you're just pissed off at each other or whatever.

0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 6>It is.

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<v Speaker 3>Well on the show itself, I don't think we actually

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:53.359
<v Speaker 3>had one argument that was I think we might have

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 3>had one disagreement and it wasn't even due to anything

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:59.199
<v Speaker 3>that one of us did. It was an external song argument.

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:06.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm here, Yeah, the fake, fake.

0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Argument where we appeared to have been fighting right before

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:12.880
<v Speaker 4>we shound the pouch. We hadn't spoken to each other.

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 7>But that was just it was like, you've got to

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:18.639
<v Speaker 7>hold the argument you had, and you know, when we

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 7>get on the couch, you've got to be really angry

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 7>and frustrated at each other and then tell the experts

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 7>what happened.

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 4>And it was just kind of like, I'm not I'm

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:27.399
<v Speaker 4>not good at acting.

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:31.480
<v Speaker 6>I'm just oh, that is such a wild directive to.

0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:37.480
<v Speaker 3>Actually, we did have another fake argument. Remember the second day,

0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:40.120
<v Speaker 3>asked the wedding where we're in a holding motel?

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all the fake arguments are coming out?

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 3>Should I share up?

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 3>So we just got married and we were on the

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:52.160
<v Speaker 3>way to our honeymoons in the middle of a fort,

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.239
<v Speaker 3>but we had to get to a holding motel on

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 3>the way on the Hawks River. And anyway, it was

0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 3>we got married on a Friday, and I got a

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 3>text for my ex to you once on a Saturday morning.

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 3>I know, it was quite spiebab. It was like a

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 3>like getting mad today, hate what it's all worth? The light

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:11.879
<v Speaker 3>one like it was pretty not great. But anyway, I

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 3>told Liz like off camera and I was like, oh,

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 3>so makes just sitting this like how did she been know?

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 3>Like we haven't spoken for like well over six months.

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:25.960
<v Speaker 3>And anyway, I went and told our coupin's producer because

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 3>they're ato getting to know her and see what she

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 3>was like. And she's like, oh my god, like have

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:32.200
<v Speaker 3>you told listen to she? And now I said, oh, yeah,

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:34.440
<v Speaker 3>I told her before and she's like, she come, that's

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 3>gonna be on camera. And then we're sitting in my

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 3>tour room and then she comes in an hour later,

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 3>so you know how you told me about that text message?

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:44.040
<v Speaker 3>Like yeah, and she's like we've got to re enact

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 3>it and we're like what the help and we're like

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 3>it's not hobing away, like where are we going? Like

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 3>you didn't know, Lisa, we had this.

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 4>Thing and I'm like it was it was the worst.

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 4>You can tell. You can tell I'm clearly when you

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 4>go I got an a text message from my expart

0:28:59.240 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 4>and I'm.

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 6>Just like, oh, I really want to go back and

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 6>rewatch that now.

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 3>Made the car it's not shown, remember any mean, we're

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 3>like they're going to show this is going to be

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 3>so awkward to watch.

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, because your acting was too bad.

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 4>Because I kept say because I didn't care. I like, well,

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 4>and they're like you've got at least you can't just

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 4>say that you've got care like it's his it's his

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 4>ex fiance, and I'm going, but I don't care, and

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 4>the camera right in my sakes and they just keep

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 4>saying it. You've got to he's got to get more emotional,

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 4>you know, you need to say how sit you are?

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 3>Like really, I was out at the pool and boxy

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 3>outside room, I'm like, oh my god, she's going to

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 3>break up for me on day two.

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 4>Yes, so it was cringe.

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 3>I wish it made it. They didn't, unfortunately that.

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 5>So it's good to know that perspective too, because I

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 5>feel like even the commentary on couples throughout every season,

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 5>I know, like a lot this season, Jeff and Ree

0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 5>were called boring a lot, and they were just like, oh,

0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 5>they're like talking about their feeling to each other.

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 6>Seems really awkward.

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 5>It's like, yeah, because it's probably like the fourth time

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 5>they're trying to have this conversation on camera and try

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 5>to like Jeff giving read his key or whatever to

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 5>move in and she's like thanks.

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 6>It was like he obviously didn't do it for the

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 6>first time on camera.

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:15.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what's right if.

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 4>The ring isn't in the right, you know, don't you

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:18.720
<v Speaker 4>ring on the angle? Then you've got to turn the

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 4>ring over and make sure, then go film it again

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 4>and get the close up of the ring. And this

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 4>this is what they always wanted us to do on camera,

0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 4>always churning out our wedding bands. So you have to

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 4>do it in a very obvious way and just the

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 4>show doubt or yeah, yeah, yeah, to like yeah, look anxious.

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 3>Ringburn, give us a pensive look and think about something

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 3>sad and what makes you emotional? Just it. I'm like,

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 3>mine doesn't sit me going off.

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 5>Well, that's what they did with Dave this season too.

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 5>Do you remember when they first are showing the cracks

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 5>with him and Jamie in their relationship. They're like zooming

0:30:57.160 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 5>in on him on the couch, like fidgeting and playing

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 5>with is when in right?

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 6>And yeah, yeah, I love all.

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 5>This inside tea, like the different ways that you can

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 5>like make you guys seem more anxious and more tense

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 5>and what you probably were.

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 2>There are some scenes as well when they're getting ready

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 2>for a dinner party and they like splash water on

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:16.719
<v Speaker 2>their face and I'm just thinking, like, what are they

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 2>trying to build here, like, I can't imagine them asking

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 2>the person to okay, now, can you just look in

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 2>the mirror and question yourself and wash your face? Like

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 2>that would be so intense, and it's the fuck.

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 4>So we just need to apply your lipstick, get great,

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 4>you're working off, and do it again. So you just

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 4>you're constantly doing the same thing over and over again.

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 4>And it felt like one of the worst jobs on earth,

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 4>especially for me, because I just it did feel like work.

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 4>Every day. Yeah, doing and having to do it over

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 4>and over and over again was it was so tiring

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 4>and frustrating, and you just you.

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:52.720
<v Speaker 3>Do feel yeah, no, the in the beginning, oh so

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 3>it's new to you. It's all exciting and fun. But

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 3>then come that the dinner party, and then you bit like, okay,

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 3>there's only so long you'll tolerate sitting in a hot

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:05.960
<v Speaker 3>tenth in a warehouse. You're already going to give me

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 3>under the fire because you can hear the voice down

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 3>the hallway and they're having fun and clinking glasses and

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 3>scarring beers, and it's like when you're seeing a tent

0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 3>with paving twists, the bottle of water getting ready to

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 3>be abused. For half now this is good. And then

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 3>you're coming sweating and it's like, oh my god, like,

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 3>why are you sweating? It's looks some anxious it's gonna

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 3>be seeing a ten hour backs for an hour waiting

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 3>to come in like.

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 6>It's being hard hostage.

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 3>God Like, look you get the three experts. I'm like,

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 3>oh my god. Bryce looks like he's like under pressure.

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 3>He's like he's really hot and leaves like fluster and

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, no, I'm proviously hydrated to be fairlightes Yeah,

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 3>play on that too.

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 5>It's it's well, I think kind of every season, especially now,

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 5>people are getting more vocal even while the show's airing,

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 5>Like a lot of the cast are going rogue this

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 5>season about it all and kind of Melissa you saying

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 5>it was like going to work every day, going to

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 5>a job every day. Do you think participants are compensated

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 5>fairly to be on the show, because you know, the

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 5>rumor over the years is the pay is not very good.

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 5>You're being propelled out to however many million Australians who

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 5>are going to judge you in your relationship for the

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 5>next few months or years, and you're working twelve hour

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 5>days essentially, if not more, and giving up jobs and

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 5>giving up lifestyles. Do you think participants should be compensated

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 5>more fairly for being on the show.

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 4>Actually, I don't. I think if you sign up for

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:30.239
<v Speaker 4>this show, then that's that's the risk you're taking, and

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 4>you do take that risk of getting the villain edit

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 4>and whatever edit you want to call it, if you

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 4>make that choice like we did. We made the choice

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 4>and it was it wasn't good for us financially, And

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 4>if I had just done a little bit more research

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 4>then Apple rule would have made it more informed decision.

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:50.920
<v Speaker 4>But then at the mored of the day, people signed

0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 4>up the show because a lot the fame most of

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:57.240
<v Speaker 4>them do, especially now, it's definitely changed since our seasons,

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 4>the earlier seasons where it was, you know, you still

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 4>have people that wanted to be on TV and the

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 4>majority of us, you know, we do want to find love.

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 4>I would have to say now just looking, because I

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:12.359
<v Speaker 4>don't watch the show, but I see it all over

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 4>my Instagram and I'm Yahoo and all over Google. It

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 4>pops up constantly, and it just doesn't feel like it

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:21.360
<v Speaker 4>has the same authenticity anymore. So if you choose to

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:23.319
<v Speaker 4>go on the show, I don't think I think the

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 4>compensation is you know, you getting compensated as a producer

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:28.799
<v Speaker 4>scene after the show.

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<v Speaker 5>There's been a lot of talk, I feel like, particularly

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:33.400
<v Speaker 5>this year, about the future of maps as well, and

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 5>like you guys kind of pointed out before, less people

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 5>going in for the love story quote unquote, and more

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:45.759
<v Speaker 5>cast going rogue as the show's on and trying to

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 5>like tell their side of the story as it's airing.

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:52.399
<v Speaker 5>Do you see a long future for the show still

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 5>or do you think people are becoming kind of too

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 5>smart and too aware now to believe everything that's been

0:34:56.920 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 5>shown on our screens.

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 3>No, to be honest with you, I've read articles saying

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:04.359
<v Speaker 3>at the show could get stand and whatnot. That show

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:06.720
<v Speaker 3>is going though away any time zero if it continues

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:09.799
<v Speaker 3>to make sure online money. You guys know as well

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:11.800
<v Speaker 3>as I do in the media, if something's bringing revenue,

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 3>it's cementing. As long as that is the ant cracks

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 3>and charts the pieces, So they'll just keep finding people

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 3>to do it. People will happily be doing it. I've

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:24.920
<v Speaker 3>already had one person message me on Instagram saying I've applied.

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 3>I've had a chat with a producer on Zoom and whatnot,

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:31.760
<v Speaker 3>Like I'm doing this testing. What do you think I said?

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:35.719
<v Speaker 3>Good luck. I'm not going to go out here and say, oh,

0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 3>go and do it, you'll love it or not. Don't

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:39.680
<v Speaker 3>do it because I had a crap experience, Like everyone

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:42.920
<v Speaker 3>have their own experience with it, Like the thing.

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 4>Is, it'll be unfortunately. I just I just see something

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 4>awful happening. Yeah, I yeah, yeah, I don't want to

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 4>say what, but it's just something terrible is going to happen.

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 4>You pick the wrong person like I was supposed to

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 4>be on the show. According to the psychologist, she said

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:04.799
<v Speaker 4>that they had to actually really push to get me

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:08.320
<v Speaker 4>in because of my former mental health issues. I believe

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:10.400
<v Speaker 4>they said the same or something similar to Jake at

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 4>the time because he worked for mental health charity and

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:17.239
<v Speaker 4>the effects it could have. So really, I'm I'd be

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:21.399
<v Speaker 4>intrigued to see all those testing and all those psychological

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 4>tests that I did. I'd been interested to give them

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 4>to my new psychiatrist to show them what, you know,

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 4>should I have gone on? Should I have actually been

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 4>allowed to participate? He's moving forward. If you're not careful

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 4>and somebody does get are some guy At the beginning

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:44.240
<v Speaker 4>of this season, that he was a lovely girl and

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 4>he's a teacher.

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 6>Oh Tim, was it Tim?

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:50.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh? Yeah, yeah, I am.

0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:53.000
<v Speaker 4>So only from what I've read, he's just getting absolutely

0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:56.319
<v Speaker 4>slammed and I couldn't. I don't know him, I don't

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 4>know what went on the show, But I just feel

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:03.840
<v Speaker 4>for people that are just absolutely hounded online and in person,

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:06.680
<v Speaker 4>and you just don't know what people are capable of.

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 4>Not stinkty, yes, but you don't know what people are

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:12.440
<v Speaker 4>capable of, and it doesn't really matter and what kind

0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 4>of edit they get. You know, they might get a

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:16.879
<v Speaker 4>great edit, they might they might come off the show

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:21.720
<v Speaker 4>looking fantastic, but then it just might not be something

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:25.399
<v Speaker 4>that suits everybody. And they're concerning that we're pushing we're

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 4>pushing people too far with this type of entertainment.

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:31.880
<v Speaker 3>I still think that if it did get to that

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 3>point where something horrific happened, like or are starting, I

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 3>still don't think that will in the show be fair.

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:43.279
<v Speaker 3>It might tote them down or reassessing how they go

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 3>about it, but it will never end it. That shows

0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 3>you to stay.

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:53.560
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, their producers and I guess the network always

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 5>pushed the message that they have psychological support there that

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 5>participants are looked after all that kind of stuff. Is

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:04.760
<v Speaker 5>that only during the duration of the show, and then after,

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:06.239
<v Speaker 5>like you were saying earlier, you kind of left to

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 5>your own devices.

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I don't know what it's like now, Yeah,

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 4>but we do. I've never received a shred support since,

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 4>as I said, any psychologists I've seen the psychiatrists that

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:24.120
<v Speaker 4>I see. I've faced it up myself, and that's you know,

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:28.840
<v Speaker 4>it's not cheap, what four or five years on and

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 4>I didn't expect the show to fund that, but it's

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 4>just nothing. It's just complete silence and not even any

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:38.879
<v Speaker 4>tools to strategize how to manage it moving forward, even

0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 4>the long term. Yeah, it's kind of it's kind of

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 4>like being in a job and having going through this

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 4>erotic experience and then just being kicked out the door

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:50.480
<v Speaker 4>and good luck and hope you survived it. And if

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 4>you don't, well you signed a contract.

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:56.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but show psychologists borne you there filming with production.

0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:00.359
<v Speaker 3>She was love with al and great with different tools

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:02.880
<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that. But at the same time too,

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:05.719
<v Speaker 3>there was one thing that I had mentioned to her

0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:10.439
<v Speaker 3>that I had told nobody else at all. I told

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:12.799
<v Speaker 3>Liz and I know Liz would not have said any

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:18.320
<v Speaker 3>repeated information, but somehow a executive, like a higher produce

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 3>like not the not Tara, one of the other ones,

0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:23.200
<v Speaker 3>but one of the little range ones, came back and

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:26.000
<v Speaker 3>allude to a comment that I made to the psychologist

0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 3>two weeks prior, and I said, there's no way possible

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:30.239
<v Speaker 3>that anyone wouldn't know that.

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 5>Do you have conversations now about how you tell the

0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 5>kids when they're older, because we were. We interviewed Cyral

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:39.839
<v Speaker 5>last year and she was saying that, you know, her

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:43.400
<v Speaker 5>and Eden have to talk about how they raise their

0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 5>son and like the stuff that she's been called online

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:48.880
<v Speaker 5>and all that kind of stuff when he's old enough

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:50.840
<v Speaker 5>to understand that. Do you guys worry about that with

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:51.360
<v Speaker 5>your boys?

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:56.360
<v Speaker 10>I do, definitely, But honestly, it's just about you know,

0:39:56.440 --> 0:40:01.240
<v Speaker 10>they can They'll be able to find any footage content online,

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:03.320
<v Speaker 10>but it's just more about how we raise them and

0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 10>how they how they see us in our family at home,

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:07.320
<v Speaker 10>in our family dynamic.

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:09.839
<v Speaker 4>That's the most important thing. And just to teach them

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:13.600
<v Speaker 4>that you know about trolls and about bullying and not

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:16.280
<v Speaker 4>to take that information or take that feedback on board

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:18.600
<v Speaker 4>and just see what their mum and dad is like

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:21.359
<v Speaker 4>and how how they're being raised. That's the most important thing.

0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 4>We can't can't control anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>One final question, just to bring everything full circle. I

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 2>think we both know the answer to this, but we've

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 2>been dying to ask you. You both at certain points

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 2>blocked us individually on Instagram. Bryce, I believe we're unblocked.

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Less you still have Talia blocked.

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<v Speaker 6>It's fine, I understand. I'd like to say I understand, well,

0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 6>I guess.

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:48.359
<v Speaker 2>We understand the reason why. But from your perspective, why

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 2>block Australian journalists? What was your motive there?

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:54.439
<v Speaker 4>I don't remember blocking you. I'm so sorry what I'm

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:55.360
<v Speaker 4>very I don't.

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:56.720
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

0:40:58.120 --> 0:40:59.479
<v Speaker 4>I don't even remember that you don't.

0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:02.360
<v Speaker 5>You don't have to apologize because I think, with the

0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:05.160
<v Speaker 5>benefit of hindsight and now covering this show for a

0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:10.239
<v Speaker 5>lot longer, there's ways that journalists tackle things that when

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:12.280
<v Speaker 5>you learn more about the show, you probably wouldn't write

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:13.719
<v Speaker 5>recaps in the same way.

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:14.440
<v Speaker 6>You know what I mean.

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 5>So I'm also sorry for whatever I reported on you

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:19.359
<v Speaker 5>guys back in the That's the thing that.

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 4>I can think of is if I blocked somebody i'd obviously,

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:24.759
<v Speaker 4>especially from a journal's perspective, I've read something that I

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:26.480
<v Speaker 4>will set me in the mind. Oh, I don't want

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 4>to interact. But it's funny. I've written quite a few

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:36.080
<v Speaker 4>articles from me with my blog, and I had them

0:41:36.120 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 4>blocks because one of their articles they wrote about me

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 4>was quite perriftic. Back in the day. It was more

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 4>just I've blocked so many people in media because I did.

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:49.920
<v Speaker 4>I saw something that I didn't like. I didn't that

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:53.160
<v Speaker 4>I read or saw, And yes, I just I went

0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:55.279
<v Speaker 4>on blocking spring My list are so extensive.

0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 5>Well, you have to protect your piece too, Like I again,

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 5>if I was in that position, I'll be blocking people left,

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:00.719
<v Speaker 5>right and center.

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:04.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And my purely was to the fact that, yeah,

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 3>I would have read something that I didn't like. I

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 3>just knew it wasn't in your need a true and

0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 3>it's it's a moss of just you two.

0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 2>There's ended endlessly, So it's not personal.

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 3>Take it personally, but I would.

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 4>Take it personally from back then.

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 2>But I'm glad we got to clear the air though.

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:24.120
<v Speaker 2>That was the main reason why we organize this so

0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 2>we could ask that. So I'm glad we're all good.

0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 5>No, I mean I have these conversations. I think we've

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:32.479
<v Speaker 5>had this conversation too as journalists. The way the show

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:34.840
<v Speaker 5>moves and the way we cover the shows and what

0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:37.680
<v Speaker 5>we've learned over the years changes so much about how

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:39.960
<v Speaker 5>you want to report on it too, Like how I

0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 5>reported on The Bachelor in twenty seventeen is so different.

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:45.960
<v Speaker 6>To how I would do it eight years on.

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:48.399
<v Speaker 5>When you learn more about what people are going through

0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 5>during these experiences instead of just being like you're almost

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:54.040
<v Speaker 5>seem like fictionalized people on TV and you have to

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 5>remember that you're real people as well.

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 3>I just wish the Australian public was sort of more

0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:01.799
<v Speaker 3>like the UK. The UK gets it, but the UK

0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 3>audience gets shows like masks like that's why we've got

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:06.239
<v Speaker 3>such people in the UK and we were loved over

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 3>it because they are mistated it where they loved us

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 3>over there where australis, but it's like it's Australia had

0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 3>more of an understanding that the UK does. You can

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 3>find a much better space on social media, like say

0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 3>journalism as well, it would be so different.

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:25.879
<v Speaker 6>Amazing. Well, thank you so much for your time today.

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:27.000
<v Speaker 6>We appreciate it so much.

0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 3>Thank you for money us on and promise we'll be

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:32.120
<v Speaker 3>able to interact a lot more.

0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Now we'll start a group on Instagram now once you

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 2>just love telling. Thanks so much though, Thank you guys,

0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:42.360
<v Speaker 2>you guys.

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 1>Lachlan and Tylier have just posted some more from this

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:50.840
<v Speaker 1>interview like a bonus extra bit, onto their podcast feeds,

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:53.880
<v Speaker 1>So if you search up Confessions of a Reality Start

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:55.800
<v Speaker 1>you can go listen to that. If you want to

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 1>check out and hear more, I will link it in

0:43:58.160 --> 0:44:01.560
<v Speaker 1>the description and also give them a following Instagram if

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:04.439
<v Speaker 1>you want to at Confessions of a Reality Star.

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:05.920
<v Speaker 3>The audio in this.

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Episode was edited by Sophie Coghill and and yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>will see you soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Goodbye,