Speaker 1: Non Skyings Australia starts. Now this is outside Hello and
Speaker 1: welcome to outsiders.
Speaker 2: The opinion show that is to woke virtue signaling, identity politics,
Speaker 2: socialist economics, environmental scare mongering and playing the race card
Speaker 2: on steroids. What's soon to be departed? Labor heavy hitter
Speaker 2: and outgoing ndis Minister Bill Shorten is to cutting a rug.
Speaker 3: Yes, eat your heart out, Elaine Benner's I don't know
Speaker 3: what was going on there exactly, but it turns out
Speaker 3: dancing isn't the only thing. Bill Shorten is not very
Speaker 3: good at pop. Also had a controant for bad predictions,
Speaker 3: such as this mother of all bad calls back in
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen talking to visiting movie star Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Speaker 4: Now that was in twenty eighteen, but it was the
Speaker 4: following year, in twenty nineteen, when he would see his
Speaker 4: ambitions to one day hold the keys to the lodge
Speaker 4: come to grief in no small part due to this
Speaker 4: little incent on Q and A talking about his mother.
Speaker 5: And my mum.
Speaker 6: She became a teacher, but she wanted to be a lawyer.
Speaker 6: But she was the eldest in the family so needed
Speaker 6: to take the teacher scholarship to look after the rest
Speaker 6: of the kids. My mum was a brilliant woman. She
Speaker 6: wasn't bitter. She worked here for thirty five years. But
Speaker 6: I also know that if she had had other opportunities,
Speaker 6: she could have done anything. What motivates me if you
Speaker 6: really want to know who Bill Shorten is. I can't
Speaker 6: make it right for my mom, but I can make
Speaker 6: it right for everyone else.
Speaker 3: That sob story was meant to elicit sympathy and suggests
Speaker 3: that Shorten's mother was hard done by, But it turned
Speaker 3: out there was more to the story.
Speaker 2: Yes, because far from failing to realize her potential and
Speaker 2: short It was a successful trailblazer in legal education, winning
Speaker 2: a Supreme Court prize in nineteen eighty five. Now, my
Speaker 2: colleagues at the Daily Telegraph at the time reported this
Speaker 2: factually and praised miss Shortened's success, while also taking issue
Speaker 2: with her son's characterization of her as being hard done by.
Speaker 2: We were, of course, pillaried by all the usual suspects,
Speaker 2: but it was the truth, and it may have been
Speaker 2: the moment when that unlosable twenty nineteen election became anything but.
Speaker 2: And with that, let's have a look at what else
Speaker 2: is going on in the world with a little outsider's news.
Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm in the chair this week for Rowan
Speaker 2: while he takes a little well deserved break, And of
Speaker 2: course I'm joined as always by Rita Panahee and making
Speaker 2: a special one off appearance here at the desk our
Speaker 2: great friend James mick Pherson. Now, guys, huge week, I
Speaker 2: reckon on the economic front, we have seen cholbers albonomics
Speaker 2: just you know, coming to grief, our living standards going
Speaker 2: ever further backwards with the release of this week's national
Speaker 2: account figures. And Rita, what does Jim Chalmers do. He
Speaker 2: doesn't say, Oh, we're going to change a new way.
Speaker 2: We're gonna, you know, stop spending all this money, We're
Speaker 2: gonna stop driving inflation up. No, what does he do?
Speaker 2: He picks a fight with the RBA.
Speaker 3: He does. It's not the dumb thing. And those figures
Speaker 3: weren't great because we are in a per capita recession.
Speaker 3: We have been in one for some time.
Speaker 2: Now, six quarters in a row, eight.
Speaker 3: Months, and it's that's what matters. The per capita figures
Speaker 3: are what. It doesn't matter if you flood the country
Speaker 3: with new people. So economic activity goes up and those
Speaker 3: overall figures look okay when you look at it. When
Speaker 3: you break it down per person, we're going backwards and
Speaker 3: people are feeling that. And it's not surprising that these
Speaker 3: interest rate rises are not having the impact on inflation
Speaker 3: they expect. Robert Gobleson wrote a fantastic piece about this
Speaker 3: in The Australian during the week. The reasons are obvious
Speaker 3: to anyone with even a basic understanding of economics. The
Speaker 3: government pouring money into the economy. They are just spending
Speaker 3: like drunken sailors. That's pushing up inflation. We've gone as
Speaker 3: a country to one of the cheapest places for energy
Speaker 3: costs to one of the most expensive. That's pushing up inflation.
Speaker 3: We've got a push to have wages growth to give
Speaker 3: people some relief, but that's actually pushing up inflation and
Speaker 3: making it harder. So there is a number of reasons,
Speaker 3: all of them entirely dictable. But the number one reason, James,
Speaker 3: is that the virtual government is pouring a lot of
Speaker 3: money into the economy and these interest rates are hurting,
Speaker 3: but they're not hurting enough to bring down inflation.
Speaker 2: Well, Rita, that's a great explanation of the economics here,
Speaker 2: But James McPherson, I want to talk to you about
Speaker 2: the politics of this because you know, it seems to
Speaker 2: me that if you ever wanted to hear about and
Speaker 2: we hear about right wing populism all the time, this
Speaker 2: strikes me and James McPherson as classic left wing populism.
Speaker 2: You know, they've decided to go out and attack an institution,
Speaker 2: an independent institution, the RBA. It strikes me that had
Speaker 2: a conservative government blamed all of their troubles on the
Speaker 2: Reserve Bank rather than their own policies. You know, the
Speaker 2: RBA has only one lever interest rates. The government has
Speaker 2: a lot of different things that can do. It seems
Speaker 2: to me that they would be an affair, bit of strife.
Speaker 4: Well, of course Chalmers came out and accused the RBA
Speaker 4: of bullying Australians effectively with interest rates. But then to
Speaker 4: make matters better, he enlisted the help of the world's
Speaker 4: greatest ever treasurer Wayne Swan.
Speaker 2: Well, let's have a little bit of weir swine. You
Speaker 2: have a look at this.
Speaker 7: The Reserve Bank is putting economic dogma over rational economic
Speaker 7: decision making, hammering households, hammering mums, and dads with higher
Speaker 7: rates causing a collapse in spending and driving the economy
Speaker 7: backwards doesn't necessarily deal with the principal pushes when it
Speaker 7: comes to higher inflation. The government is doing a lot
Speaker 7: to bring down inflation, but the Reserve Bank is simply
Speaker 7: punching itself in the face. It's counterproductive and it's not
Speaker 7: good economic policy, and I'm incredibly disappointed at what they're doing.
Speaker 8: Well, that's wonderful.
Speaker 4: If the Reserve Bank is punching itself in the face,
Speaker 4: the government's kicking itself in the teeth. You've got record spending,
Speaker 4: you've got record immigration, all of which, as you said, Rita,
Speaker 4: is contributing to inflationary pressures.
Speaker 8: And I've got two questions.
Speaker 4: Firstly for Jim Chalmers, who are pointed handpicked appointed the
Speaker 4: Reserve Bank governors, so it's a bit rich to now
Speaker 4: complain about her. And as for Wayne Swan, how many
Speaker 4: surpluses was it the t managed to get over his
Speaker 4: six years as treasurer Well, but he.
Speaker 3: Didn't deliver any I've got to say one thing, though,
Speaker 3: one thing I do in a strange way, I agree
Speaker 3: with some of the retrick we're hearing from Labor. I
Speaker 3: think the Reserve Bank also has to understand that hurting
Speaker 3: every day Australians with his interest rate increases that are
Speaker 3: really making some people question whether they can hold on
Speaker 3: to their homes. They're going to have to be under
Speaker 3: so much mortgage stress that they're considering selling. People are
Speaker 3: going without, people are making all sorts of lifestyle decisions
Speaker 3: because of these interest rate increases at a time when
Speaker 3: the government is just spending in a crazy manner. I
Speaker 3: think that's got to be talked about as well, because yes,
Speaker 3: the Reserve Bank only has one method, but when that
Speaker 3: method is hurting every day Australians and it's not bringing
Speaker 3: down inflation successfully because the how man is spending, that've
Speaker 3: got to consider the dead as well. Are they just
Speaker 3: going to keep doing this until people are selling house?
Speaker 2: It is the mortgage stress. It is not just the spending.
Speaker 2: It is also you know what they're restraint of private
Speaker 2: enterprise versus h you know, shoveling everything into the government.
Speaker 2: The only employment growth we're seeing right now Rita and
Speaker 2: James is in government and government related services, you know,
Speaker 2: the NDIS and all of that. We saw Bill short
Speaker 2: and pull the pin on his job there to go
Speaker 2: get a million dollars a year from A and U.
Speaker 2: But this issue of inflation, this is something that I
Speaker 2: hear people at every level of society talk about. I
Speaker 2: heard somebody had a great line yesterday on Twitter. They said,
Speaker 2: since Albanisi took power, the Australian people to become so
Speaker 2: much more strong, they can carry five hundred dollars worth
Speaker 2: of groceries in just one hand. And I thought that
Speaker 2: was a good line. But people are really talking about it.
Speaker 2: But James mac Pherson here in New South Wales, we've
Speaker 2: got this other issue too, because we see they're added
Speaker 2: towards private enterprise and the things that will continue to
Speaker 2: make us rich, like mining. Peter Dutton this week has
Speaker 2: come out and said they will go to reverse this
Speaker 2: decision to shut down or stop the tailing stamp from
Speaker 2: this Phillamy's gold mine outside of Arms, which we employed
Speaker 2: hundreds of people, had huge flow on effects for the region.
Speaker 2: Tell us about it.
Speaker 4: We've got eight hundred potential jobs that are now gone
Speaker 4: because of this decision by Tenure Pliversecond, I should add
Speaker 4: a decision that she will not explain.
Speaker 8: She's made a decision to.
Speaker 3: Absurd as a reason why she won't explain it as
Speaker 3: she's not politically a fool. She knows she's going to
Speaker 3: take a bad situation and turned a catastrophic for herself
Speaker 3: if she tries to explain this and this is eight
Speaker 3: hundred well paid jobs in the regions two hundred million
Speaker 3: dollars worth.
Speaker 2: Instead coffers to the men's government.
Speaker 3: Chris Mins wants this project to go ahead. So you've
Speaker 3: got sensible labor people questioning Tanny Plivsek.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, reader, you know tiny Plibersek as
Speaker 2: environment minister, this is going to be a huge worry
Speaker 2: if we go to an election. Well, we'll go to
Speaker 2: an election, but after that election, if you wind up
Speaker 2: with a Labor government in deep minority having to do
Speaker 2: deals with the Greens because now Rita the Greens are
Speaker 2: demanding that they have where the tiny plus have new
Speaker 2: powers to block fossil fuel projects. If she gets her
Speaker 2: way and has this new environmental department tell us about.
Speaker 3: This, well I would not be surprised. I don't think
Speaker 3: actually the Labor government needs much encouragement. They have been
Speaker 3: thoughting development out being just anti fossil fuels that are
Speaker 3: obsessed with their emission targets, though they are questioning whether
Speaker 3: they can meet some of those targets. But this is
Speaker 3: another reason why we're in the economic woes that we're in,
Speaker 3: is that this is a government filled with people who
Speaker 3: do not understand what it takes to run a successful business.
Speaker 3: They don't understand the economy that come from political backgrounds.
Speaker 3: There they been in the union movement or being staffers,
Speaker 3: they've been bureaucrats. How many people within the federal government,
Speaker 3: Dang James, you're in Canberra every week have any sort
Speaker 3: of business understanding or experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's it's shockingly few, and it's shockingly few,
Speaker 2: particularly on the labor side, where the career to sit
Speaker 2: on those front benches or the backbenches is, you know,
Speaker 2: literally you start in student politics and then you get
Speaker 2: a job as a staffer for an MP or a minister,
Speaker 2: or you go work for one of the unions. And
Speaker 2: then if you're you know, good, and you play the
Speaker 2: politics and you work the machine right, then maybe you
Speaker 2: get pre selected. Then maybe you get a seat, and
Speaker 2: then that's how it works. Literally, these people spend their
Speaker 2: entire life doing this. I think Albanezy had a tiny
Speaker 2: little time working as a bank teller or something when
Speaker 2: he was a university. That's it tiny plaps her whole
Speaker 2: life in this system. That entire system of labor is
Speaker 2: keeping people divorce around it.
Speaker 4: This whole situation is a great to fall for this government.
Speaker 4: This government takes gold but leaves it in the ground,
Speaker 4: so won't maximize the wealth of.
Speaker 8: Out natural resources.
Speaker 4: But at the same time they want to start a
Speaker 4: solar panel building industry, which we can never do as
Speaker 4: cheaply as China. So everything that is inefficient this government
Speaker 4: is committed to, and everything that's obvious. We've got wealth
Speaker 4: right under the dirt. They want to leave it there.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you Chris Ben's the Premier of New
Speaker 2: South Wales's labor, but he is one of the most
Speaker 2: sensible voices in this country. He has said that getting
Speaker 2: all of these other minerals out of the ground is
Speaker 2: the way that New South Wales and Australia will wind
Speaker 2: up continuing to maintain this prosperity. Because reader, I think
Speaker 2: there's this attitude on the left, particularly where they haven't
Speaker 2: worked in industry, that thinks that just prosperity is assured
Speaker 2: that Australia will always be a prosperous nation. Will always
Speaker 2: be rich. We've been rich before, will always be that way.
Speaker 3: It is, And I think that extends sadly to much
Speaker 3: of the public where they don't really have a con
Speaker 3: concerned for the national debt. They don't really look at
Speaker 3: the GDB because the figures. Obviously they know inflation's biting.
Speaker 3: It's hurting them week in and week out when they're
Speaker 3: buying their groceries and doing their budgeting. But there needs
Speaker 3: to be an appreciation that when we are in debt,
Speaker 3: as say, the state of Victoria is biggest debt in
Speaker 3: the country, state debt in the country, everybody pays. Eventually,
Speaker 3: if you want to own property, if you've got payland tax,
Speaker 3: it becomes so oppressive. If you employ people and you
Speaker 3: pay payroll tax, it becomes even more oppressive. So I
Speaker 3: think that understanding is going to become apparent as these
Speaker 3: policies actually hurt everyday people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now we're going to have Richard Richard kemp on
Speaker 2: in a couple of minutes to talk more about what's
Speaker 2: been going on in the Rebilite is going to join
Speaker 2: us live from Tel Aviv. But the politics of the
Speaker 2: Middle East are playing out Rita and James right here
Speaker 2: in Australia. And again this is another thing that I
Speaker 2: think shows Lever's weakness and their lack of fine. Here
Speaker 2: there is a high profile doctor out in Tony Burke's
Speaker 2: seat in Western Sydney. He has shared social media posts
Speaker 2: that essentially seemed to celebrate the October seventh attax terror Attached,
Speaker 2: which were coming up on the very grim almost one
Speaker 2: year anniversary of Now James McPherson tell me about this.
Speaker 2: It seemed like it took an awful long time for
Speaker 2: Tony Burke to come out and talk about this. He
Speaker 2: didn't talk about it in the Sydney Morning Herald article
Speaker 2: that first reported this. I asked his office the next
Speaker 2: day and I got a statement that basically said, look,
Speaker 2: he's always condemned this sort of thing, which like, fine,
Speaker 2: why did you say something at the time. Is labor
Speaker 2: running scared from voters who and voting blocks that might
Speaker 2: have a somewhat different view? Shall we say about Israel
Speaker 2: and it's continued existence those of us here on this desk.
Speaker 4: Surely that is a rhetorical question. I think the answer
Speaker 4: is very very clear. They are of course running scared.
Speaker 4: They're making foreign pols see based on a few Western seats,
Speaker 4: and Tony Burke was very slow to come out and
Speaker 4: condemn this post that for those who haven't seen it,
Speaker 4: though we showed it on screen just a moment ago,
Speaker 4: you had the image of a paraglider as they did,
Speaker 4: they went slaughtered four hundred Israeli young people. And the
Speaker 4: caption that this candidate in Tony Burke's seat put on
Speaker 4: the post was dreams do come true. So for Tony Burke,
Speaker 4: who is not just a local member, he's responsible for
Speaker 4: home affairs, he's responsible for keeping the community safe. For
Speaker 4: him not to come out immediately and condemn this shows
Speaker 4: his more in my view, he's more concerned about his
Speaker 4: local electorate and his standing in future electoral prospects then
Speaker 4: is about doing the job of keeping Australian safe from
Speaker 4: this kind of.
Speaker 2: Retro And this gets us to the whole visas for
Speaker 2: votes scandal, which I think really is a scandal because nobody,
Speaker 2: nobody was simply asking and say, hey, you know what
Speaker 2: we need to do. We need to give you know,
Speaker 2: thousands of visas to people from Gaza, where large proportions
Speaker 2: of the population support har Maas and in fact, today
Speaker 2: the Australia they've reported that even after this war, Harmas
Speaker 2: is likely to stay in power and still have the support.
Speaker 2: But you know, hey, why not give them visas, give
Speaker 2: them tourists visas, let them come on in. Really tell
Speaker 2: us what happened in Melbourne with Josh Friedenburg too, there
Speaker 2: was a.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's wanting to have an event at a schooled
Speaker 3: It's going to be Novapere's neb and I think is
Speaker 3: also going to be there. So it's a sort of
Speaker 3: event about unity and support, talking about anti semitism. But
Speaker 3: the schools now alarmed because they are worried about I mean,
Speaker 3: how can you be worried about a labor figure, a
Speaker 3: liberal figure. Also Deborah Conway, the musician, was going to
Speaker 3: be there, and they now worry that these crazy activists
Speaker 3: are going to perhaps attack the attendees. So there's there's
Speaker 3: all sorts of question marks about how this is going
Speaker 3: to go ahead. It is just it's justice le and
Speaker 3: there's just been way too much tolerance, permissive attitude from
Speaker 3: the political class for much of the media class, certainly
Speaker 3: the activist class to this anti semitism from the left.
Speaker 3: If they sniff anti Semitism on the right, they condemn
Speaker 3: it as that as they should, but when it's on
Speaker 3: the left and it actually has some institutional power because
Speaker 3: we're not just talking about you know, nobody is there
Speaker 3: people who are in academia, who are in politics, who've
Speaker 3: got some influence, and there seems to be very little condemnation.
Speaker 2: That's absolutely has been. Peter has had an absolutely perfect
Speaker 2: moral compass on this since October seventh. Of course, not
Speaker 2: just Melbourne and Sydney. Up in Brisbane, a Brisbane Green's
Speaker 2: councilor is being asked to repay twenty thousand dollars after
Speaker 2: printing a pamphlet for their constituents because of course it's
Speaker 2: what counsel is all about about Israel and why Palestine
Speaker 2: would be free within our lifetime. So that's happening up
Speaker 2: in Brisbane. Now. To bring us all the latest in
Speaker 2: the ever escalating conflicts in the Middle East is former
Speaker 2: British Commander Richard Kemp live from Tel Aviv. Richard, thanks
Speaker 2: so much for coming on the program. I want to
Speaker 2: start here because Rita had just mentioned the media class
Speaker 2: here and how they misreport so much of what goes
Speaker 2: on in the Middle East and between Israel and the Palestinians.
Speaker 2: There's just been a report come down about the BBC
Speaker 2: and the way they have mishandled their coverage of the
Speaker 2: Israel Palestinian conflicts since October seventh. What can you tell
Speaker 2: us about that?
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I've read this report that's just been issued,
Speaker 9: and I've also been watching a fair bit of BBC
Speaker 9: coverage since the war began. Painful load is to watch
Speaker 9: because there is no question in my mind that every
Speaker 9: time the BBC covers the war out here in Israel,
Speaker 9: it is horrifically biased towards her mass There's always undue
Speaker 9: criticism Israel.
Speaker 10: And they go easy on Hermas.
Speaker 9: There's no doubt in my mind that is a consistent
Speaker 9: editorial policy, and it's been that way with the BBC
Speaker 9: for a long time, not just during this conflict, but
Speaker 9: certainly since I can.
Speaker 10: Ever remember BBC covering them.
Speaker 9: At least, there's just an ex and it's not even
Speaker 9: necessarily only a factual bias, but it's also in the
Speaker 9: tone of their reporting and the way that they try
Speaker 9: and interview, for example, IDEF spokespeople and things that always
Speaker 9: at least the implication that the Israeli spokespeople are alying
Speaker 9: and that's the kind of impression you get. And this
Speaker 9: report has essentially, i think, borne that out and suggested
Speaker 9: that I think since the war began, at least fifteen
Speaker 9: hundred times, the BBC has breached its own editorial guidelines
Speaker 9: for impartiality on the conflict over here.
Speaker 2: Shocking and of course in the UK you have to
Speaker 2: pay for a license to watch the BBC. I think
Speaker 2: it's a shocking dereliction of people's money.
Speaker 3: But anyway, reader, switching to the US and the support
Speaker 3: they're providing to Israel right now. But the Biden Harris
Speaker 3: administration seems to be wavering. We had Biden even that
Speaker 3: this week come out and say that Netanyahu isn't doing
Speaker 3: enough to secure a cease fire. Explain what's happening in
Speaker 3: that relationship and what the impact is on what Israel
Speaker 3: does next.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, this is one of the key issues
Speaker 9: here in Israel at the moment is that the Seas
Speaker 9: via oblique hostage release negotiations that have been going on
Speaker 9: for a considerable time now. And you know, as you
Speaker 9: mentioned just recently, President and Biden suggested that who is
Speaker 9: not doing enough to get the released yet? In recent
Speaker 9: weeks and in days recent days, in fact, the Deputy
Speaker 9: Director of the CIA has praised Israel for going pretty
Speaker 9: much all the way as far as it can possibly
Speaker 9: go in terms of compromising on negotiations, and the same
Speaker 9: as true of Secretary of State.
Speaker 10: So there's mixed.
Speaker 9: Messages coming out of Washington, and then the Prime Minister
Speaker 9: over here, Prime Minister Neto recently spoke to try and
Speaker 9: parify the situation, which is effectively they're the ones that
Speaker 9: have shown flexibility as much as it is possible, and
Speaker 9: it's not possible to be to completely accept all of
Speaker 9: her master's terms, but her math have been completely intransigent.
Speaker 9: One of the key issues that is being discussed here
Speaker 9: is the Philadelphi Corridor, which is essentially the border between
Speaker 9: Gaza and Egypt, which Israel is currently in control. It's
Speaker 9: a lifeline for her, and there's some people who suggest
Speaker 9: that the idea of should withdraw from that corridor in
Speaker 9: order to encourage Hamas to come to some kind of deal.
Speaker 9: Other people, like the Prime Minister and some of the
Speaker 9: people around him, say this can't happen. This is this
Speaker 9: is basically our most probably the most critical grounding Gaza
Speaker 9: for completing the mission of destroying a mouse in Gaza.
Speaker 2: That's interesting, Richard.
Speaker 4: We're all aware that Iran, of course, is stirring up
Speaker 4: trouble in the region. But I want to ask you
Speaker 4: about Turkey, because overnight the president of Turkey has met
Speaker 4: with the leader of Egypt and he has said there
Speaker 4: needs to be an alliance of Islamic nations against Israel
Speaker 4: to stop what he calls Israeli expansion. Can you believe
Speaker 4: can you talk to me about Turkey's involvement in this?
Speaker 4: Is this just hot air or is this a serious
Speaker 4: threat from Turkey.
Speaker 9: I think there's a great deal of hot era has
Speaker 9: come out of Turkey since this conflict begun. And you know,
Speaker 9: even beforehand, Turkey was talking about Jerusalem belongs to us.
Speaker 10: We we we. You know, it's it's Turkish territory.
Speaker 9: And of course it was at one point the Ottoman
Speaker 9: Empire did control this entire territory, but that was in
Speaker 9: the distant past.
Speaker 10: So I think my view is that this is.
Speaker 9: More than anything else if part here, I don't think
Speaker 9: it's a real threat from Turkey against Israel. Obviously there
Speaker 9: is diplomatically, but of course Turkey is a member of NATO,
Speaker 9: and for Turkey to do anything aggressive against Israel would
Speaker 9: be met with, you know, considerable I think, displeasure from
Speaker 9: the United States. As for Egypt, Egypt, Egypt has been
Speaker 9: playing a double game. Egypt facilitated that the the arming
Speaker 9: of her mass, it is enabled allowed her mass to
Speaker 9: bring weapons, munitions and equipment to turn Gaza into.
Speaker 10: The fort the fortific it is.
Speaker 9: Today, sometimes maybe by playing a blind eye, sometimes by
Speaker 9: openly allowing stuff through, but nevertheless, it was really because
Speaker 9: of Egypt's position that harms developed as it did, supplied
Speaker 9: by Iran but allowed through by by Egypt. And the
Speaker 9: idea of destroyed I think my figures may not be
Speaker 9: one hundred percent correct, but I think they've identified and
Speaker 9: destroyed around two hundred tunnels crossing the border between Gaza
Speaker 9: and Egypt. I was in one of them myself a
Speaker 9: few days back inside Gaza, a tunnel that you could
Speaker 9: easily drive at least two vehicles side by side through that. Wow,
Speaker 9: And that was just one of a huge number of
Speaker 9: tunnels that have been dug by her mass to get
Speaker 9: munitions and not just munitions but other equipment through through
Speaker 9: the border there. And Egypt's been allowing it, and at
Speaker 9: the same time Egypt just closed its border for refugees.
Speaker 9: There are a lot of people from Gaza who could
Speaker 9: have escaped the war through the Egyptian border, as really
Speaker 9: is required under international treaty by Egypt, and Egypt has
Speaker 9: simply refused to do so. It's one of the few
Speaker 9: I'm aware of in history that a neighboring country that
Speaker 9: has it's that peace has completely closed off its border
Speaker 9: to refugees.
Speaker 10: From a country that's the war where they're in danger.
Speaker 2: Richard, I just wanted to ask you very quickly before
Speaker 2: we let you go, just to go back to the
Speaker 2: United States. You know, we had the horrible incident. There's
Speaker 2: six hostages being shot under Rafa the other day. Rapha,
Speaker 2: of course, was where the Biden administration and Kamala Harris
Speaker 2: said do not go in there, you know, leave leave
Speaker 2: Raphia alone. And now we have Tim Waltz, who could
Speaker 2: very well be the next Vice president, saying that protesters
Speaker 2: who are protesting at the Israel pro Palestine are processing
Speaker 2: for all the right reasons. Have a listen to this here.
Speaker 11: I think we're at a critical point right now. We
Speaker 11: need government to start moving in that direction. But I
Speaker 11: think those folks who are speaking out loudly in Michigan
Speaker 11: are speaking out for all the right reasons. It's a
Speaker 11: humanitarian crisis, Richard.
Speaker 2: With the presidential election of the US basically being probably
Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty toss up at this point, how
Speaker 2: much trepidation is thereat Israel about the prospect of a
Speaker 2: Harris Waltz administration and what they might do in terms
Speaker 2: of reorienting even further away from Israel.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's a very good question.
Speaker 9: I think the Biden administration has been in many ways
Speaker 9: a mixed blessing for Israel. They have provided a great
Speaker 9: deal of war for Israel, and they've deployed a large
Speaker 9: number of assets here and they helped defend Israel and
Speaker 9: talk about aircraft carriers, strike groups as well as numerous
Speaker 9: other naval and air assets. And they helped defend Israel
Speaker 9: against the Iranian stack on the fourteenth of April.
Speaker 10: So Israel the US has been quite strong.
Speaker 9: But on the other hand, they have been over critic
Speaker 9: and I think every time we've seen comments from the
Speaker 9: US which suggested a division between Israel and the United States,
Speaker 9: that's what har Mass capitalizes on. That encourages the mass
Speaker 9: keep fighting and har Mass, you know, they clearly want
Speaker 9: to see not just the US, but other countries in
Speaker 9: the world, like Australia bringing down pressure on Israel to
Speaker 9: stop the war. And it's you know, you mentioned the
Speaker 9: Kamala of the the US perspective on RAFFA trying to
Speaker 9: pay this with an impalpable operation which would prove totally
Speaker 9: wrong by Israel. It's that kind of pressure and that
Speaker 9: kind of international message which encourages the Mass. And I
Speaker 9: think it's really important that you know that if we
Speaker 9: get a Harris administration that she doesn't continue.
Speaker 10: To do that.
Speaker 9: And I think the Israelis, most of the Israelis that
Speaker 9: I speak to, are very concerned about the prospect of
Speaker 9: another administration like the Biden administration, and there you know,
Speaker 9: I think above all they would like to see Trump
Speaker 9: in the White House. Who whatever anyone thinks of Trump,
Speaker 9: as far as Israel's concerned, I think he would be
Speaker 9: Many people over here believe he would be the best
Speaker 9: president for Israel and will give them far greater support
Speaker 9: than they've had up until now.
Speaker 2: Absolutely hard to argue with that. Colonel Richard Camp, thank
Speaker 2: you so much for staying up to join us from Israel.
Speaker 2: Really appreciate it as always. Now stick with us here
Speaker 2: because after the break we've got res reality check and
Speaker 2: it's a fun one, and we're also going to speak
Speaker 2: to child psychologists Claire Row about well, I don't think
Speaker 2: concerning is even the word for it. Really shocking woke
Speaker 2: initiatives happening in school libraries.
Speaker 3: After the break, watching Outsiders with your host the James
Speaker 3: dew of Morrow and McPherson and I'm Rita Panahy and
Speaker 3: soon will be playing you possibly the funniest bit of
Speaker 3: political satire you have seen in many years about Albo
Speaker 3: and his unofficial bo Adam Bant. And it's funny because
Speaker 3: it's true. But first, just when you thought Victoria couldn't
Speaker 3: lerge any further left, the labor government there have launched
Speaker 3: another divisive campaign to push the state further into ideological lunacy.
Speaker 3: The justinto Alan government is proving it again that it
Speaker 3: will not allow little things like crippling debt and a
Speaker 3: looming energy crisis to disrupt its mad culture wars. The
Speaker 3: Rainbow Libraries tool Kid, which is forty eight pages of
Speaker 3: activist bull Dusk pushing radical gender theory which aims to
Speaker 3: entrench far left lgbtqqq IPSA plus plus indoctrination into public libraries.
Speaker 3: Children as young as five can look forward to men
Speaker 3: dressed in drag reading stories to them and having library
Speaker 3: staff ask them about their preferred pronouns.
Speaker 12: Children as young as five will be asked if they
Speaker 12: identify as she, he or they as part of a
Speaker 12: new program being rolled out across public libraries in Victoria,
Speaker 12: library staff are being told to ask what their preferred
Speaker 12: pronouns are for children, avoid gendered language and offer pronoun badgers,
Speaker 12: pins or laniards for any visitors. As part of the
Speaker 12: Rainbow toolkit, Victorian libraries will also add books on gender
Speaker 12: diversity and promote Drag Queen's story time events they go.
Speaker 3: Five year olds asked whether they identify as they, then
Speaker 3: that's just healthy and normal, not at all confusing and
Speaker 3: utterly unnecessary. This is precisely the type of woke idiocy
Speaker 3: that mainstream Australians are poor and the political class loves,
Speaker 3: and sadly that includes the thoroughly hopeless and gutless Victorian
Speaker 3: liberals who either back such initiatives all stay silent Victorian
Speaker 3: as a Labor Minister and Lissa Horn claims this toolkit
Speaker 3: is necessary to help LGBTQIA plus plus folk access libraries.
Speaker 3: She said the Rainbow Libraries Toolkit that all Victorians, regardless
Speaker 3: of identity, have a place in our public libraries, because
Speaker 3: libraries are a space that everyone should be able to access.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but since when has anyone been denied access
Speaker 3: to a public library because of their sexuality or their
Speaker 3: preference for non binary pronouns? Do we really need to
Speaker 3: teach library staff or resist using gendered language like boys
Speaker 3: and girls to make people feel safe? Should we also
Speaker 3: remove all the books that reference gender? This is the
Speaker 3: sort of lunacy that is so absurd that it's almost
Speaker 3: impossible to parody. But I'm sure the Good Focus Please
Speaker 3: Explain will do their best. But this week their focus
Speaker 3: is the toxic relationship between Australian labor and the Greens
Speaker 3: and how it threatens to destroy the country versus so
Speaker 3: good that we're going to play you the whole thing.
Speaker 13: You're welcome, Okay, it seems you too aren't getting along,
Speaker 13: But this is what couples there. He's all about, Anthony.
Speaker 13: Why don't you start what's on your mind? Well, Adam
Speaker 13: Band's been so mean to me lately.
Speaker 14: He's calling me names on Twitter, He's calling me names
Speaker 14: around the house. He's gas lighting me. I'm not gas
Speaker 14: lighting you. That's a lie. And you know it's all right.
Speaker 14: Maybe always wrong about the gas lighting, but I just
Speaker 14: feel so supported right now.
Speaker 13: He won't help bout around the upper house at all.
Speaker 13: I can't pass any of my silly little lawyers at
Speaker 13: the moment. Yes, good, good elbow, it's good. You can
Speaker 13: open up.
Speaker 14: Yeah, just like he's opened up twenty three new colon
Speaker 14: GADS projects. He's a hypocrite and he's a frecking liar.
Speaker 14: He won't even go all the way with me. I
Speaker 14: told you I'm not ready to go fully renewable, yet
Speaker 14: you promised me some real action. Ahi, Jay, So if
Speaker 14: yours don't right this, why are you.
Speaker 13: Texting this AIRFMMEU ha, How did you know? I looked
Speaker 13: through your phone.
Speaker 14: I've seen the messages, I've seen their sexy pictures. You
Speaker 14: should be ashamed of yourself. Suck it up to my
Speaker 14: sluppy seconds. Yes, and I'll take whatever I can get.
Speaker 14: Don't you shame me?
Speaker 13: That's it. I'm bocking you in the setting. See, this
Speaker 13: is what he does. He did it with my inadequate
Speaker 13: housing bill. Now he's doing it again. He blocks me, and.
Speaker 14: Then he gets to tell everyone how woken perfect he is.
Speaker 13: You're a coward.
Speaker 14: This is the same guy that won't tax the rich
Speaker 14: or because he's too scared of throwing his mates into
Speaker 14: a little class warfare. And don't even get me started
Speaker 14: with his best mate, Israel. Ough, I hate Israel so much.
Speaker 13: Look, I'm sorry.
Speaker 14: I can't be the liberal cut you want me to be, Adam,
Speaker 14: and I've got to barely function.
Speaker 13: In government to mismanage.
Speaker 14: Okay, everyone's calling me the worst prime minister ever. No
Speaker 14: you're not. You could have been so much worse. If
Speaker 14: you just listen to me together, we could have destroyed
Speaker 14: this country. I don't think your heart's in it anymore.
Speaker 14: I don't say that, Adam. Please come back. Good luck
Speaker 14: getting an election without me. I don't bring my electoral
Speaker 14: dysfunction into this. You know I don't actually have electoral
Speaker 14: dysfunction or anything.
Speaker 13: Anthony. You need to dump him.
Speaker 14: What I thought you place to fix our relationship, not
Speaker 14: break his O part.
Speaker 13: Look, I'm a way of man. I was one of
Speaker 13: the few people that voted for you. But this relationship
Speaker 13: you've got with the Greens, it's toxic.
Speaker 14: It's destroying the party and soon it'll destroy the country.
Speaker 13: Yeah, you're right. This relationship is not good for anyone.
Speaker 13: It's all Adam's fault, isn't it. No, it's your fault.
Speaker 13: Don't say that. It is your fault. Oh come on, man,
Speaker 13: not you, It is your fault.
Speaker 2: I know it's my fault.
Speaker 13: Oh what am I gonna do now?
Speaker 14: Doc, stop batting for the other team Conservatives.
Speaker 13: I hate Penny.
Speaker 14: Datt and I hate Pauline handsOn.
Speaker 13: I hate them so much.
Speaker 14: I'd rather destroy the country than flirt with conservatives.
Speaker 13: Wait, what do you mean you'd rather destroy the country?
Speaker 14: There's that ignorant ideolog I fell in love with Adam.
Speaker 13: You came back? Oh boy, stop it. No, I thought
Speaker 13: we were having a breakthrough. What do you say we
Speaker 13: start sharing some preferences right here? Right now? I think
Speaker 13: I can feel an election coming on.
Speaker 14: Oh bo, No, this is a toxic relationship, your rule
Speaker 14: in the country.
Speaker 13: Oh no, not again. How uneasy?
Speaker 10: When will you ever learn?
Speaker 15: I'm sorry you got a little traumatic at the end there.
Speaker 15: Perhaps whatever is that the gool with good will hunting
Speaker 15: reference were just that superb bit of extra and good
Speaker 15: to see Albo dealing with his electoral dysfunction issues.
Speaker 3: That's very important. Now before I go, we hear plenty
Speaker 3: from the TTS crowd about how Donald Trump is not
Speaker 3: a serious candidate, how we must back well a simpleton
Speaker 3: from California to save the republic and democracy itself. And
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm coming around to their way of thinking.
Speaker 3: Their arguments about VP Harris are persuasive. I mean, a
Speaker 3: woman who can deliver a speech like this is really
Speaker 3: a politician of rare insight and ability.
Speaker 16: So you know how those lids are, because this is
Speaker 16: I'm just gonna speak, okay, So this is it. So
Speaker 16: you know how those lids on the Starbucks comes. They're
Speaker 16: weight right, and so if you were a lipstick, they
Speaker 16: get all over the lid. And so then I find
Speaker 16: myself in meetings if I'm the only woman, and that's
Speaker 16: kind of and so I keep taking the lid off
Speaker 16: and having my cup out so that I don't have
Speaker 16: that big.
Speaker 5: Lips sick mark on the lit So.
Speaker 16: I said, can we do something about the color of
Speaker 16: the lip? So that was that conversation.
Speaker 3: Profound profound. I mean, how can you not back her
Speaker 3: after hearing that? But sadly the Kamala rebrand and propaganda
Speaker 3: campaign is faltering. The latest polling is showing Americans not
Speaker 3: as afflicted with TDS and short term amnesia as the
Speaker 3: Median Democrats hoped.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for that, reader, to think of the
Speaker 2: traumatic vision of album and Adam bet Now you mentioned
Speaker 2: this whole story about what's going on in the libraries,
Speaker 2: and I am so pleased that we have joined here
Speaker 2: at the desk with us child and adolescent psychologist Claire Rowe. Claire, welcome,
Speaker 2: so much to outside, so great to have you tell
Speaker 2: us a bit more about this Rainbow program in the
Speaker 2: libraries and as an expert in child mental health development,
Speaker 2: why is this necessary?
Speaker 17: Well, as Rita said, I mean I think at best
Speaker 17: it's unnecessary and absurd, and at worst it's just dangerous.
Speaker 17: I mean, I have so many, so many issues with this.
Speaker 17: I think ten to fifteen years ago would this have
Speaker 17: gotten up. And I think, first of all, I think
Speaker 17: it just shows how far we've come to just I
Speaker 17: think the majority of parents would be against this, but
Speaker 17: we're not speaking of and I just don't think this
Speaker 17: would have got up fifteen years ago, but now it
Speaker 17: just shows we're just that frog boiling water, and that
Speaker 17: we're just allowing these extremist you know, even colleagues of
Speaker 17: mine this week said, oh, I think you're making a
Speaker 17: storm out of a teacup about this, Claire, But really, really,
Speaker 17: I mean, you know, so developmentally, first of all, as
Speaker 17: you said, we were talking about five year olds. I mean,
Speaker 17: their concept of gender is so concrete and in thinking
Speaker 17: and based on kind of observable physical characteristics, and a
Speaker 17: lot of five year olds are still trying to get
Speaker 17: language acquisition and know that you know, males are he
Speaker 17: and if you've got kids in your life, you know
Speaker 17: they switched them up all the time, and you're correcting them.
Speaker 17: And now I'm going to say, oh no, actually it's
Speaker 17: just a free for all. And it's very confusing.
Speaker 3: I've read through the forty eight page guide book. I
Speaker 3: don't wonder have any of your colleagues who think this
Speaker 3: is no big deal. I've actually bothered to do that,
Speaker 3: asking a five year old whether they identify as say
Speaker 3: them or he she. I mean, it's absurd, but I
Speaker 3: think it's even dangerous for those kids who perhaps don't
Speaker 3: fit the stereotype. I was a tomboy growing up. If
Speaker 3: these people got hell old of me, they would have
Speaker 3: probably put me on some puberty blockers and transitioning me
Speaker 3: by the age of twelve. Because there are kids who
Speaker 3: girls who are not very girly, boys who are a
Speaker 3: little bit more feminine, but that doesn't mean they're not
Speaker 3: boys and girls or they need medication for the rest
Speaker 3: of their life.
Speaker 17: I think, like most things, you know, the pendulum was
Speaker 17: swinging and it's just gone way too fun out. But
Speaker 17: we hit some kind of sweet spot around the kind
Speaker 17: of it in early two thousands where we started talking
Speaker 17: as parents about how well, you know, kids can play
Speaker 17: with whatever toy they want. Yeah, sids can dress however
Speaker 17: they want, you know, And I really like that idea
Speaker 17: that we can kind of just raise kids in this
Speaker 17: environment where you know, if my daughter wants to play
Speaker 17: with trucks, go for it, and there's not this kind
Speaker 17: of idea of gendered pressures on them, of stereotypes.
Speaker 5: But there is, but there is now And that's what
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 17: Ironically, it's kind of, you know, doing the opposite instead
Speaker 17: of having this neutral environment where they can just be
Speaker 17: who they want to be Suddenly we're asking them over
Speaker 17: and over are you sure you're not the opposite, and
Speaker 17: you're sure you're not this and you know so it's actually,
Speaker 17: i think, achieving, ironically the opposite of what we were
Speaker 17: trying to.
Speaker 3: Do, and often on the most superficial stuff. If a
Speaker 3: boy likes pink.
Speaker 4: Oh oh body, Claire, as Rech said earlier, there's zero
Speaker 4: need for this. It's not like anybody is being discriminated
Speaker 4: against when they go.
Speaker 8: To get a book. You said, at best, this is confusing.
Speaker 4: It seems to me like there's a ploy here to
Speaker 4: implant ideas in children's heads that they would otherwise never
Speaker 4: come to think of, parents would certainly never talk about it.
Speaker 4: Is that the more sinister aspect of this.
Speaker 17: Yeah, it is, and not just implanting ideas in their heads.
Speaker 17: But the Victorian government haven't put this advice out to
Speaker 17: parents of how to talk to your children about it.
Speaker 17: They've selected your public servants librarians. I mean, what qualification
Speaker 17: does a librarian have in this way? And I'm really
Speaker 17: worried that you know, there's a power dynamic there for
Speaker 17: a young child with an adult in a position of
Speaker 17: kind of knowledgeable authority that children are very susceptible.
Speaker 2: But you know it's not just this particular thing. We're
Speaker 2: seeing this all over the place. Umi Stein, who made
Speaker 2: some of our viewers may be familiar with her graphic
Speaker 2: and I mean really graphic. And we won't go into
Speaker 2: this because it's Sunday morning and me, we just should
Speaker 2: do that sort of thing. She got a book called
Speaker 2: Welcome Sex, and it's four kids as young as eight nine,
Speaker 2: eighteen eight, and it talks about all sorts of things
Speaker 2: poor and sexting and a lot of things that are
Speaker 2: fairly out there in terms of sexual practice. This has
Speaker 2: been short listed now for the Prime Minister's Literary Awards.
Speaker 2: There are no words.
Speaker 17: There are no words, No there's Again I've had colleagues
Speaker 17: say this is very good for children. Well, I mean,
Speaker 17: the children really need this good sex education, and I
Speaker 17: do agree. It's harder for parents. I think in our
Speaker 17: generation when we ask parents to explain anything, they had
Speaker 17: the option of saying tell you when you're older.
Speaker 2: And these days kids google it. So there's this.
Speaker 17: There is a need for good, anatomical correct information out there,
Speaker 17: which we've always had in books.
Speaker 2: As you said, this goes.
Speaker 17: Into some pretty extreme sex practices that I think for
Speaker 17: adults on the Deathshop of Sunday Morning, we can't show
Speaker 17: them here for adults.
Speaker 3: Yes, there is graphics and descriptions in this book which
Speaker 3: apparently immature eight year old can Ennoy and is I
Speaker 3: think targeted for ten to fifteen year olds. We can't
Speaker 3: show it on an adult program, and yet a mature
Speaker 3: eight year old and the Prime ministers endorsing it by
Speaker 3: shortlisting it for an award. But what sort of a.
Speaker 2: Well, Claire does this? I mean, you know, I know
Speaker 2: we see the service about you know, when young people
Speaker 2: start to have sexual relations and things like this, But
Speaker 2: it would seem to me that this sort of thing
Speaker 2: would be encouraging kids to think about things that you know,
Speaker 2: are pretty smutty that they and spot's fine if you're
Speaker 2: an adult, but not when you're eight. They're encouraging kids
Speaker 2: to think, maybe experiment, do things much younger than they should.
Speaker 17: Well, we've thrown out completely the idea of information delivered
Speaker 17: to children at different stages, the same with the gender
Speaker 17: issue by the conferents and by their parents exactly, and
Speaker 17: this whole idea that we've talked about a lot. James
Speaker 17: about the shortening of childhood, that there is no childhood.
Speaker 2: Anyway, sort of weird thing where it seems like we
Speaker 2: have a shortened childhood but then an extent adolescence that
Speaker 2: lasts forever.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's true.
Speaker 17: But developmentally, there is no way a twelve year old,
Speaker 17: fourteen year old older it should be having some of
Speaker 17: these concepts in this book. Some of them, yes, okay,
Speaker 17: some of them are very basic kind of where do
Speaker 17: babies come from?
Speaker 5: Discussions.
Speaker 17: But there is information in that book that I would
Speaker 17: not want my teenager reading about. As you said, they
Speaker 17: wouldn't even be aware of it or on their radar anyway.
Speaker 17: And yeah, for the Prime Minister now to endorse it,
Speaker 17: I mean I just think that that speaks volumes on
Speaker 17: as you said, where the country's at.
Speaker 4: Well, this is another thing I can't work out. How
Speaker 4: is this listed for a literary award? I mean, I've
Speaker 4: read part of it. It's I mean, you know, the
Speaker 4: spelling is correct, there's pretty much correct grammar, but it's
Speaker 4: not gone with the win earl. So how on earth
Speaker 4: does this book get up as one of the great
Speaker 4: books in Australian literature this year? It makes no sense.
Speaker 4: It does unless there's an agenda being pushed.
Speaker 17: Yeah, that's right, And I don't know what the exactly
Speaker 17: the criteria. I would have thought a literary work should
Speaker 17: have some type of I think.
Speaker 3: That has a section on scissoring. So there's that in here.
Speaker 3: I'll well to talk about that on Sunday morning.
Speaker 2: We're talking about we're talking about arts and crafts, right,
Speaker 2: we're talking about arts and crafts. Everybody, everyone's not googling.
Speaker 3: But this is again we keep saying it, but the
Speaker 3: author herself said a mature eight year old could look
Speaker 3: at this book at eight year old.
Speaker 17: Yeah, and I don't understand what eight year old she's
Speaker 17: hanging out with. I mean, an eight year old will
Speaker 17: be very intrigued and shocked and probably quite traumatized if
Speaker 17: they're reading some of this information and what people apparently
Speaker 17: like to do to each other, because that's how graphic
Speaker 17: it goes into it.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, yeah, well that's just absolutely shocking. A Prime Minister,
Speaker 2: if your watch, I'm sure you're watching on a Sunday morning,
Speaker 2: maybe have words to people doing the literary awards thing
Speaker 2: and say let's strike this one off. I mean, surely
Speaker 2: there's some little house on the prairie or something like
Speaker 2: that that the kids could be reading anyway. Thank you
Speaker 2: so much, child and an adolest and psychologist Claire row
Speaker 2: I appreciate it and the arts and crafts description from reader.
Speaker 2: Now stick around me because after the break, we've got
Speaker 2: a lot of crazy net Zady coming on as well
Speaker 2: as in lefty lunacy, bit a whagadaemia, and you're never
Speaker 2: gonna guess what they want you to do with your steak.
Speaker 2: That's right, stop eating it. After break, welcome back to
Speaker 2: the program. You're watching Outsiders with Rita Patahey and James
Speaker 2: McPherson sitting in for Rowan, who'll be back here on
Speaker 2: the desk next week. Now, in a moment, I'm going
Speaker 2: to show you some pretty incredible evidence of medium malpractice
Speaker 2: as the US press does its level best to turn
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris's word salads into something resembling steak. But first,
Speaker 2: speaking of word salads, it's incumbent on all of us
Speaker 2: to remember that, yes, Joe Biden, I know, Joe Biden
Speaker 2: is still the President of the United States, So you know,
Speaker 2: let's check in on the man hey, see how he's going.
Speaker 18: That Bill I got passed and so said that Biden
Speaker 18: couldn't do it. Guess what A trillion, three hundred billion
Speaker 18: dollars over ten years, I going.
Speaker 2: Reduce the budget at the same time. A trillion, three
Speaker 2: hundred billion dollars. Why that's almost a Brazilian I think
Speaker 2: I just loved that clip.
Speaker 5: There.
Speaker 2: You had all the classic Joe the creepy whisper and shouting.
Speaker 2: But at least he's not having trouble remembering the names
Speaker 2: of important people.
Speaker 18: I know the other team doesn't think it's any such
Speaker 18: thing as a global warming. Well, I like to put
Speaker 18: the other nominee for president. The former president liked to
Speaker 18: put him in the middle of Arizona for a while.
Speaker 2: You know, what's his name of the guy with the thing?
Speaker 2: You know, the candidate Arizona who knows anyway, Yes, so
Speaker 2: let's just remember that this is the man who is
Speaker 2: not capable of running for president, but is still apparently
Speaker 2: capable of being president, which I know makes me sleep
Speaker 2: well at night. So anyway, let's get on to Kamala Harris,
Speaker 2: shall we. Now we have over the past several weeks
Speaker 2: been part of a remarkable campaign to remake Kamala Harris
Speaker 2: from a joke to a sort of revolutionary, transformative figure
Speaker 2: who will turn the page, as she constantly reminds us,
Speaker 2: unburdened by what has been. As Lancemorrow Hi Dad eloquently
Speaker 2: put it in the Wall Street Journal this weekend. Quote
Speaker 2: now incredibly his Kawala Harris is wonder woman, high priestess
Speaker 2: of the politics of joy, a daughter of Jamaica at India,
Speaker 2: come to rescue reactionary white America from itself. The Democrats,
Speaker 2: in a few short weeks have mustard their own cult
Speaker 2: of personality around miss Harris, transfiguring the erstwhile hack into
Speaker 2: a world historical heroine unquote. And yep, that's about it.
Speaker 2: But none of this would be possible without the media,
Speaker 2: which once upon a time wrote disparaging stories about her,
Speaker 2: which has now cut like state media in a place
Speaker 2: like Russia or communist China, reversed course to support the
Speaker 2: new presumptive dear leader. What an example, Well, here's the
Speaker 2: Washington Post. You know, the democracy dies in darkness, guys.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one, they said, a Kamala Harris staff
Speaker 2: exodus reignites questions about her leadership style and her future ambitions.
Speaker 2: And here's the same newspaper, The Washington Post this past weekend.
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris ran her office like a prosecutor. Not everyone
Speaker 2: liked that.
Speaker 10: Now.
Speaker 2: Here's what the Post wrote in twenty twenty one. Quote
Speaker 2: Staffers who worked for Harris before she was vice president
Speaker 2: said one consistent problem was that Harris would refuse to
Speaker 2: wade into briefing materials prepared by staff members, and then
Speaker 2: berate employees when she appeared unprepared unquote. Whew, Okay, that's
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. But what are they writing now, Not
Speaker 2: that Kamala Harris, a woman who went to a third
Speaker 2: tier law school and feared the failed the California Bar,
Speaker 2: wasn't doing the reading. No, the problem with Kamala Harris,
Speaker 2: dowis she just works too hard at any criticism. Well,
Speaker 2: there's a DEI card to play there, because, as the
Speaker 2: Post writes, quote, the staff churn has spawned accusations of
Speaker 2: mismanagement by the vice president. But many Harris allies say
Speaker 2: that critique is overblown and sometimes root in. You knew
Speaker 2: this was coming in her gender and race unquote. Well,
Speaker 2: this is, of course, just like how all the different
Speaker 2: news outlets that happily reported on Harris's appointment to the
Speaker 2: role of borders are turned around and said she was
Speaker 2: never never she never been the borders are I know
Speaker 2: you're talking about when she was president. Of course, there
Speaker 2: is another reason why the press isn't looking too hard
Speaker 2: at what Harris actually stands for. Many of her ideas
Speaker 2: are simply playing bonkers, racially divisive, and you know, frankly
Speaker 2: exceedingly unpopular with people if they're actually introduced to them.
Speaker 2: So here's Kamala Harris endorsing slavery reparations at the behest
Speaker 2: of notorious race bader, Reverend Al Sharpton put in the area.
Speaker 6: Of reparations for descendants of Africasms.
Speaker 1: So if you elected president, would you sign that bill
Speaker 1: if it came across your death.
Speaker 16: When I am elected president, I will sign it.
Speaker 2: Anyway. You know, her values are unchanged. That's she keeps saying.
Speaker 2: And here she is seeming to endorse the idea that
Speaker 2: there's separate loans for black people.
Speaker 14: And we're talking about specifically something that happens to black
Speaker 14: people here in America.
Speaker 5: So we have to be.
Speaker 7: Specifically targeting to help those people, because if we put
Speaker 7: those people in a position.
Speaker 10: And everybody know the istory and everybody understands the history
Speaker 10: of America. That's right, America is to these people. You
Speaker 10: should write laws to put these people. Don't don't whoop
Speaker 10: us in with everybody, because everybody didn't happit.
Speaker 19: Ay, And let's be fair playing from behind the people
Speaker 19: wave that here four hundred years back here, We don't.
Speaker 10: We're not asking about to give us nothing.
Speaker 5: We as some right in law. Those of us who
Speaker 5: are willing and able to do.
Speaker 10: The work will do the work.
Speaker 12: That's right.
Speaker 10: That's what we need.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. Indeed, and here she is talking
Speaker 2: about free speech, or actually why we need less of it.
Speaker 16: And we'll put the Department of Justice of the United
Speaker 16: States back in the business of justice. We will double
Speaker 16: the Civil Rights Division and direct law enforcement to counter
Speaker 16: this extremism. We will hold social media platforms accountable for
Speaker 16: the hate infiltrating their platforms because they have a responsibility
Speaker 16: to help fight against this threat to our democracy.
Speaker 2: Ah, yes, our democracy, because we all know that anything
Speaker 2: that goes against the narrative of the left is misinformation
Speaker 2: and hate and anything is defensible in defense of as
Speaker 2: she loves to put it, and the whole left loves
Speaker 2: to put it, our democracy which is why the media
Speaker 2: is spreading so much misinformation right now to cover up
Speaker 2: for its own favorite dear leader, sorry, I mean candidate.
Speaker 2: All right, well, joining us now is University of Adelaide
Speaker 2: law professor doctor Joanna Howe to discuss concerns over the
Speaker 2: issue of babies born alive during late term terminations. And
Speaker 2: I've got to warn you some viewers may find the
Speaker 2: content in this segment a little distressing. Joanna how thank
Speaker 2: you so much for joining us again here on the program.
Speaker 2: Tell us a bit more about where things are up
Speaker 2: to over this controversy over baby is born alive and
Speaker 2: some of the shocking things we've been hearing discussed in
Speaker 2: parliament recently. Thank you.
Speaker 19: So, what we know is that it's one baby a
Speaker 19: week who is born alive and left to die without
Speaker 19: a legal right to care in certain Australian states, So
Speaker 19: in Victoria and Queensland there's no legislative protection for babies
Speaker 19: born alive after an abortion. That's there's also the case
Speaker 19: in the Northern Territory, WA and Tasmania. Only New South
Speaker 19: Wales and South Australia, where I'm from, have a positive
Speaker 19: legal duty that if a child is born alive after
Speaker 19: an abortion. They it be treated no differently to any
Speaker 19: other newborn Australian child. And what we now know because
Speaker 19: of the midwives that are coming forward to blow the
Speaker 19: whistle on what's going on, is that this means that
Speaker 19: these little newborns are being deliberately induced alive as a
Speaker 19: method of abortion. And we don't even do this to animals.
Speaker 19: And they're being deliberately induced alive and then left to
Speaker 19: die on metal kidney dishes or as Louise Adset said,
Speaker 19: little witches hats, which are urine dishes. So these little
Speaker 19: babies are being placed in these dishes, then put in
Speaker 19: the dirty pan room, door shut and left to die.
Speaker 19: It's just an absolute national disgrace. And in the Federal Parliament,
Speaker 19: thirty two senators voted against giving these babies a right
Speaker 19: to medical care. And currently in the Queensland Parliament, Robbie
Speaker 19: Cutter's bill is languishing because Stephen Miles is playing politics
Speaker 19: he doesn't want to vote on this before the Queensland election.
Speaker 3: Arana. Some of the testimony we heard. I listened to
Speaker 3: one midwife talk about this little baby born alive, breathing
Speaker 3: for five hours, clinging on to life for five hours,
Speaker 3: but not having any assistance and eventually dying dumbing. To me,
Speaker 3: it just sounds obscene that that could happen anywhere. Tell
Speaker 3: me about why people are voting against this, because this
Speaker 3: bill isn't going to curb any abortion rights. All it's
Speaker 3: saying is if an abortion is botched or for any reason,
Speaker 3: and a child is born alive late term during a
Speaker 3: late term abortion, that child gets some medical help. Tell
Speaker 3: me the reasons why MPs are voting against this, including
Speaker 3: a number of Liberal MPs.
Speaker 19: The only reason they're voting against this is because they
Speaker 19: want to cover up for the abortion interestry. Abortion industries.
Speaker 19: So we know the abortion industry is extremely powerful that
Speaker 19: they give money, You do the Greens they give money
Speaker 19: to labor And we don't know which Liberal MPs get
Speaker 19: money from the abortion industry. We know that Greens and
Speaker 19: p Larissa Waters is on the board of Children by Choice,
Speaker 19: one of the main abortion lobbyists in the country, and
Speaker 19: the abortion industry wants to cover this up. What astounds
Speaker 19: me is the fact that doctor Elisha Broom, a chief
Speaker 19: abortionist in this country, stood up in the Parliament and
Speaker 19: said we do this on purpose. We deliberately induce these
Speaker 19: babies alive, and we leave them to die, because that's
Speaker 19: the method of abortion. I had always thought, I think
Speaker 19: all of us had thought, this is an unintended consequence
Speaker 19: of abortion up to birth. And in reality, what we
Speaker 19: now know is these aren't failed abortions. This is a
Speaker 19: deliberate strategy, a cheap, easier, quicker strategy to kill babies.
Speaker 19: So they induced them alive, they leave them to die. Now,
Speaker 19: this was outlawed for baby calves in Australia in twenty
Speaker 19: twenty two.
Speaker 17: This was banned.
Speaker 19: We don't even do this to baby cows, yet we
Speaker 19: do it to human babies. And Maria Kovichik, who's a
Speaker 19: senator from the Liberal Party, she got up two weeks
Speaker 19: ago in the Australian Senate and she justified this practice.
Speaker 19: She said this was about women's rights to abortion. It
Speaker 19: has nothing to do with that, because the abortion has
Speaker 19: already happened, and all we're talking about reader is humane
Speaker 19: treatment for these little newborn babies who are left gasping
Speaker 19: for air, who are wondering what the heck is going
Speaker 19: on because they've gone from the place where they were
Speaker 19: safest in their mother's womb. They could respond to their
Speaker 19: mother's voice. They respond to light and sound at this gestation.
Speaker 19: These are not little clumps of cells at three four weeks.
Speaker 19: These are babies at twenty one weeks who are being
Speaker 19: left on metal kidney dishes to die. And Senator Maria
Speaker 19: Kovichik had the gold to stand up in the Parliament
Speaker 19: as a member of the Liberal Party and justify this
Speaker 19: barbaric practice. I have launched a petition to dump her
Speaker 19: from the Liberal Party because this type of person should
Speaker 19: not exist in our federal Parliament, and especially not in
Speaker 19: the Liberal Party.
Speaker 2: Shocking stuff, James for Erston.
Speaker 4: Yes, Senator Ralph Barbett asked the Senate simply to agree
Speaker 4: that babies born alive should have a right to care
Speaker 4: and comfort, and unbelievably, four Liberal senators voted against it.
Speaker 4: You mentioned Maria Kovichik. She complained she hadn't had enough
Speaker 4: time to consider whether or not babies born alive should
Speaker 4: receive care. That to me was the most shocking part
Speaker 4: of her speech.
Speaker 19: Absolutely, James, because this was before the Senate since twenty
Speaker 19: twenty two, Senator Matt Canavan, Senator alex Antique, Senator Ralpherbett
Speaker 19: had a private member's bill before the Senate, so for
Speaker 19: over eighteen months the Human Rights Children Born Allied Protection Bill.
Speaker 19: This bill gives a right to equal protection for any
Speaker 19: child born in Australia. So we already have that protection
Speaker 19: in New South Wales and South Australia. This is extending
Speaker 19: it across the country. We had a Senate inquiry in
Speaker 19: June twenty twenty three Senator Maria Covid Chic gets paid
Speaker 19: over two hundred and thirty thousand dollars a year to
Speaker 19: represent us in the Australian Senate.
Speaker 5: She needs to do her job.
Speaker 19: It was an absolute disgrace for her to say we
Speaker 19: haven't had enough time to look at this. And essentially
Speaker 19: it was her and the other three liberals Jane Hume,
Speaker 19: Simon Birmingham Andrew Bragg, all four of them siding with
Speaker 19: the abortion industry who instead of being like the dairy
Speaker 19: industry who owned up to the appalling treatment of little
Speaker 19: baby calves, these four liberals, the Greens and Labor are
Speaker 19: siding with the abortion industry and covering up the plight
Speaker 19: of these very vulnerable Australian newborn babies.
Speaker 2: Doc Joan, how thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 2: Really appreciate your keeping us informed out at this disturbing issue.
Speaker 2: Really appreciated. Thank you so much. And who knows, maybe
Speaker 2: one day we'll get Bria Kolchich here on the program
Speaker 2: and she can give us the other side. I'd love
Speaker 2: to hear that. Anyway, Stick around because after the break
Speaker 2: we're going to speak to a former senior Trump advisor
Speaker 2: about all things US. I'll actually after the break.
Speaker 8: Well, welcome back to outsiders.
Speaker 4: An alleged terrorists suspected to be linked to Islamic State
Speaker 4: stabbed three people to death at a diversity festival in
Speaker 4: Germany last month. Now say what you like about isis barbarians.
Speaker 4: You can't tell me they don't have a sense of occasion.
Speaker 4: European leaders opened their borders to more than a million
Speaker 4: people from the Middle East and North Africa, deflecting criticism
Speaker 4: of the policy by insisting at nauseum diversity is our strength,
Speaker 4: and it is right up until you get stabbed in
Speaker 4: the neck, as three Germans were. The Syrian national for
Speaker 4: whom ISIS has claimed responsibility, allegedly took the festival as
Speaker 4: an opportunity to showcase his particular kind of diversity. He
Speaker 4: was later hiding in a shelter for asylum seekers before
Speaker 4: turning himself in. So first he murdered Germans and then
Speaker 4: he trolled them. Clearly the jehartist hadn't heard the eye
Speaker 4: tolls edict that there are no jokes in Islam.
Speaker 8: The local mayor where.
Speaker 4: The attack took place, this is on record of saying
Speaker 4: it was shameful that Germany hadn't taken more refugees. He's
Speaker 4: a Christian from the left wing Social Democratic Party and
Speaker 4: he insisted it was the first Christian duty to take
Speaker 4: more refugees. It's a timely reminded that Jesus may save
Speaker 4: men's souls, but not their brains. The mayor's duty was
Speaker 4: to protect citizens, three of whom met Jesus prematurely speaking
Speaker 4: of men without brains.
Speaker 8: After laying a white.
Speaker 4: Rose at the site of the Diversity Festival, German Chancellor
Speaker 4: ol Off Schlaws promised rapid action would be taken against
Speaker 4: knives if only we could prevent button knives from being
Speaker 4: radicalized online.
Speaker 8: More of that in a moment.
Speaker 4: The great irony about terror attacks, of course, is that
Speaker 4: when they happen, the terrorists are the only ones who
Speaker 4: tell the truth about them. Isis released a statement saying
Speaker 4: the attack on a group of Christians was revenged for
Speaker 4: Muslims in Palestine and everywhere. Truth telling by Islamists is
Speaker 4: always a prompt for Western leader to sprout the very
Speaker 4: disinformation they continually warn us against. Islam is a religion
Speaker 4: of peace, no matter what the radical Islamists say, and Islamophobia, well,
Speaker 4: that's the real threat. Never mind the fact that the
Speaker 4: three body bags at the diversity festival all contained infidels.
Speaker 4: The stabbings are all just part of the rich tapestry
Speaker 4: of multiculturalism, which every now and then produces some anomalies,
Speaker 4: A bad curry over here, a few innocents stabbed in.
Speaker 8: The neck over there.
Speaker 4: Now, I'm not suggesting that all immigrants are criminals. The
Speaker 4: vast majority clearly are not. But we mustn't allow diversity
Speaker 4: to ruin our commitment to diversity, because diversity is our strength.
Speaker 4: Just ask anyone who's been stabbed in the neck. Prominent
Speaker 4: German politician Henrik Woost expressed his shock and grief at
Speaker 4: the stabbings, calling them an act of the most brutal
Speaker 4: and senseless violence. How many entirely predictable, senseless Islamic terror
Speaker 4: attacks will it take before radical Islamic terror attacks make sense.
Speaker 4: Will the answer is all the same, isn't it just
Speaker 4: one more? Hendrik Woost added helpfully, we stand by the
Speaker 4: people of Zulingen, especially the victims and their families. Well,
Speaker 4: it's comforting to know that, you know, should you ever
Speaker 4: be killed in a terrorist attack, the politicians whose loose
Speaker 4: immigration laws allowed the terrorists in will stand by your
Speaker 4: family at your gravesite. Imagine if Western politicians stood by citizens.
Speaker 8: While they were alive.
Speaker 4: But that would mean, for many cases a commitment to
Speaker 4: sovereign borders and robust immigration checks.
Speaker 8: So see you at your funeral.
Speaker 4: As I said earlier, the German Chancellor and his Interior
Speaker 4: minister reacted to the attack by repeating a promise to
Speaker 4: crack down on knife crime. As it currently stands in Germany,
Speaker 4: knives with a blade length of twelve centimeters are allowed
Speaker 4: to be carried in public. The Interior minister wants this
Speaker 4: reduced to six centimeters. If only we could reduce the
Speaker 4: length of blades, Islamic terrorism would stop overnight. It never
Speaker 4: seems to occur to our elites that jihadi's on their
Speaker 4: way to slap shinfidel's at a diversity festival might not
Speaker 4: concern themselves with the latest government regulations on blades, and
Speaker 4: what are police going to do if a Jahadi stabs
Speaker 4: people after the blade laws have come in to effect.
Speaker 4: I can hear authorities now we're sorry three people have
Speaker 4: been stabbed to death, but in good news, we're pleased
Speaker 4: to report the knife was within government approved limits and
Speaker 4: so we feel this was a very good outcome. You know,
Speaker 4: aside from the dead people, here's a white rose, and
Speaker 4: of course we stand with the families at your gravesite.
Speaker 4: Now I forgot to add the German government have also
Speaker 4: promised an awareness campaign about the dangers of knives. So
Speaker 4: if any Islamic terrorists still don't know about the dangers
Speaker 4: of stabbing people the awareness campaign, well that will let
Speaker 4: them know. The whole episode serves as a bloody reminder
Speaker 4: that the entire West is now one never ending diversity
Speaker 4: festival in which no one ever notices the killers, only
Speaker 4: the length of the blades.
Speaker 2: I thank you so much person for that pointed analysis.
Speaker 2: Now it is my pleasure to bring in Christian Witten,
Speaker 2: former senior Trump advisor, live from Colorado. Christian, thank you
Speaker 2: so much for coming on outside us today. Gosh, we've
Speaker 2: got a fair bit to talk about here. First of all,
Speaker 2: we've got a bit of news from the legal front
Speaker 2: around Donald Trump that the hush Mondy sentencing has been
Speaker 2: delayed until after the election. Now. I think there's been
Speaker 2: a fair bit of wailing and gnashing of teeth among
Speaker 2: the Democrats of the media who thought this was going
Speaker 2: to be their chance to see Trump in an orange
Speaker 2: jumpsuit before the election.
Speaker 20: Right, I think, And what it has to mean is
Speaker 20: the judge calculated that having Donald Trump put in jail
Speaker 20: and prevented from campaigning would backfire in the same way
Speaker 20: that all of these phony indictments and charges have backfired
Speaker 20: since they first started occurring. They actually elevated Donald Trump
Speaker 20: throughout the primary process. They didn't push support away from
Speaker 20: and they drew it to him. He defeated his opponents
Speaker 20: handily in the Republican primary. And you know, it's the
Speaker 20: I think a lot of people see it as the
Speaker 20: politicization of the justice system. It makes New York City
Speaker 20: look like you know, Alabama in the nineteen sixties. You
Speaker 20: could have a more pro law, pro business environment today
Speaker 20: in Alabama and places that used to be the butt
Speaker 20: of jokes thirty or forty years ago than in New
Speaker 20: York City, which now looks like it's run by a
Speaker 20: bunch of backward hicks using their judges as politicians. So yeah,
Speaker 20: it's I think an indication that these cases lack merit
Speaker 20: and that the voters ultimately will have to decide.
Speaker 3: Now the polls appear to have started shifting. Is the
Speaker 3: Kamala honeymoon coming to an end?
Speaker 5: You know? Poles indicate that it is.
Speaker 20: She did get a surge when she sort of came
Speaker 20: as a bolt out of the blue with Biden's surprise
Speaker 20: announcement that he was dropping off the ticket.
Speaker 5: She got as high bump, but not a big one.
Speaker 20: Same with a Democrat convention, she didn't really get a
Speaker 20: bump out of that. Now that national polls still have
Speaker 20: her one or two points ahead of Donald Trump, that's
Speaker 20: actually bad news because Trump usually performs better than he polls.
Speaker 20: As it turns out, people don't want to tell a
Speaker 20: stranger on the phone or over a computer who they're
Speaker 20: voting for when it's not politically correct to vote for
Speaker 20: Donald Trump. But it's also important to remember that our
Speaker 20: election is an election of fifty state It's not a
Speaker 20: national election and Trump is tied right now in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 5: That I think is just the key.
Speaker 20: Neither party really can win without it. And Trump loses that,
Speaker 20: he'd have to pick up states like Michigan and Wisconsin
Speaker 20: where he's a point or two behind. It's possible, but
Speaker 20: right now it's really a tidy election.
Speaker 5: But the big thing is next Tuesday.
Speaker 20: Where all eyes are on a debate between Harris and Trump.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to get into the debate and just
Speaker 2: a second, Christian, but just on Pennsylvania. You know, we
Speaker 2: have seen all of the flip flops around Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2: And one of the things that she said was in
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, how it's on legislation banfracking. In twenty twenty
Speaker 2: she changed that. Her values though she says, have not changed.
Speaker 2: And you know, whatever those are, well we may find
Speaker 2: out one day. But Christian, how much of this is
Speaker 2: cutting through, especially in places like Pennsylvania where I Norreta
Speaker 2: and I were in twenty twenty round western Pennsylvania and
Speaker 2: there was a huge issue out there.
Speaker 20: It is. It's amazing to contrast Pennsylvania, where fracking hydraulic
Speaker 20: fracturing is permitted, versus New York State right next door
Speaker 20: where it is not, and the difference in prosperity in
Speaker 20: the rural areas and here in Colorado too, where oil
Speaker 20: really is a huge contribution to the economy and to
Speaker 20: people who don't have fancy degrees and work with their
Speaker 20: hands as a way to actually have a very decent
Speaker 20: middle class sometimes upper middle class income. So if Trump
Speaker 20: can really hammer that home and say, listen, this is
Speaker 20: Kamala just saying what she thinks she needs to to
Speaker 20: get elected, and once she's in there, it's the continuation
Speaker 20: of the Biden policies towards all hydrocarbons. Really there's a
Speaker 20: capital strike against hydrocarbons. It's ebbed a little bit, but
Speaker 20: this browbeating by the government against anyone investing in new
Speaker 20: oil and gas production really put a delay only recently,
Speaker 20: only in the last couple of months, where we back
Speaker 20: up to the level of oil production here where we
Speaker 20: were in the Trump peak before the pandemic is Christian.
Speaker 4: With the polls tightening, obviously, the debate takes on extraordinary significance.
Speaker 4: Just talk to us about what each candidate has to
Speaker 4: win and lose in that, and also tell me about
Speaker 4: the argument over the hot mic, and Kamala Harris eventually
Speaker 4: agreeing to go with the rules that were already laid out.
Speaker 4: But she was dragged, kicking and screaming to that decision,
Speaker 4: wasn't she.
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 20: Well, we start with that Originally for Biden versus Trump,
Speaker 20: Biden's people insisted that only the mic of the person
Speaker 20: whose time it was to speak was turned on, and
Speaker 20: Trump accepted that. This actually reminds me a little of
Speaker 20: twenty oh four when the Bush people were going up
Speaker 20: against John Kerry and they insisted that a yellow light
Speaker 20: and a red light come out when he was running
Speaker 20: out of time because Carrie was long winded. Actually, it
Speaker 20: had the counter effect. It made Carrie more concise. He
Speaker 20: still lost the election. Similarly, this rule actually prevents Donald
Speaker 20: Trump from interrupting as much. Now, if you speak loudly enough,
Speaker 20: the other mic will still pick up your voice. But
Speaker 20: it actually sort of made Trump a look a little
Speaker 20: more calm and reasoned and let people focus on Biden's
Speaker 20: incoherence with Kamala versus Trump. Similarly, you know, Kamala is
Speaker 20: going to have to do more than what she has
Speaker 20: in this campaign. She's a prosecuting attorney. That's her background.
Speaker 20: She thinks every campaign's beach is a closing argument. It
Speaker 20: doesn't really work with voters. It's coming across his phony,
Speaker 20: and you have to have substance. She's on our ABC
Speaker 20: News and that is a liberal network, but you know
Speaker 20: she still will have to answer some sort of substance
Speaker 20: of questions or else look like she's really a lightweight.
Speaker 2: I think, well, but Christion isn't like the whole debate.
Speaker 2: To the heart of this issue about the microphones is
Speaker 2: that the Harris campaign is just dying for some moment
Speaker 2: where Trump even so much as exhales into an open
Speaker 2: mic so that she can do exactly what she did
Speaker 2: to Mike Penson the twenty twenty debate and do the
Speaker 2: whole excuse me, I'm speaking routine and to the next
Speaker 2: day there'll be everybody wearing T shirt saying excuse me
Speaker 2: I'm speaking and create kind of a viral moment. Is
Speaker 2: that really the Harris strategy and why they were so
Speaker 2: disappointed not to have those open mics.
Speaker 20: I think that's a big part of it, the aggrieved
Speaker 20: black woman routine, which I think is wearing thin. I
Speaker 20: think the silent majority of Americans, including Frankly Black Americans
Speaker 20: dislike that a grandstanding. She accused Biden of being a
Speaker 20: segregationist because he had some slight concerns about forest bussing,
Speaker 20: which was an issue here in the nineteen sixties and seventies.
Speaker 20: But the other issue with the hot mics is they
Speaker 20: want Donald Trump to show up as he did against
Speaker 20: Biden in that first debate in twenty twenty, where he
Speaker 20: really did come across is angry and frankly a little
Speaker 20: unpresidential interrupting, and that debate was thought to be very
Speaker 20: crucial in his loss in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: Reader, well, I think it is a blessing for Harris
Speaker 3: that the mix won't be like so that whole speaking
Speaker 3: speaking is just so greating. I think so many people.
Speaker 8: Robert F.
Speaker 3: Kennedy's names come off the ballot or will come off
Speaker 3: the ballot in North Carolina and Michigan. Tell me about
Speaker 3: the Democrats trying to keep his name on the ballot
Speaker 3: despite the fact that it's withdrawn from the race.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 20: So they're making the assumption that people voting for RFK
Speaker 20: will be draining would otherwise vote for Donald Trump, which
Speaker 20: is pretty amazing since the Kennedy name is synonymous with
Speaker 20: the Democrats, at least the liberal Democrats, not today's progressives.
Speaker 20: I think President Kennedy and Robert Kennedy Senior would be
Speaker 20: appalled by today's woke Democrat cultural warrior party. But anyway,
Speaker 20: courts have ruled that the name should come off and
Speaker 20: people should actually be choosing among people who are actually
Speaker 20: running for president, and the Democrats don't like that. Rfk's endorsement.
Speaker 20: It hasn't been hugely decisive, but they are people who
Speaker 20: previously were spurned by the Democrats, and the Democrats did
Speaker 20: so much waging political warfare against our FK Junior. That's
Speaker 20: one of the reasons he endorsed Trump Christmas.
Speaker 2: Before we let you go, I want to ask you
Speaker 2: about what seems to be a fairly pathetic attempt to
Speaker 2: reinvigorate the Russia hoax for I think the third time
Speaker 2: here we had this announcement for Merrick Garland about an
Speaker 2: influenced buying scheme by Russia and ten million dollars, which
Speaker 2: sounds like a lot until you compared to the billions
Speaker 2: of dollars that China spends trying to influence elections in
Speaker 2: the United States. And also LESBI frank in Australia tell
Speaker 2: us a bit about this. And when I say things
Speaker 2: like the deputy chief of staff in Kathy Hokel the
Speaker 2: New York Governor's office being indicted on allegations that she
Speaker 2: was doing influenced spying and stuff for China, I kind
Speaker 2: of have a hard time getting too exercised about some
Speaker 2: of this.
Speaker 20: Well, right now, if there is one country, well maybe
Speaker 20: two countries who spend a lot of money influencing US politics,
Speaker 20: China is one. Frankly Ukraine as another enormous amount is
Speaker 20: spent by them lobbying people, whether it's declared or not,
Speaker 20: or registered or not. Russia does. If you leave an
Speaker 20: open door to your elections in your political process, Russia
Speaker 20: is going to walk through it. There was a separate
Speaker 20: intelligence assessment they use fancy words for bureaucratse saying yeah,
Speaker 20: Russia is trying to influence things, but maybe not for
Speaker 20: one candidate another, maybe just to increase tension within American society.
Speaker 5: In fact, Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 20: Has explicitly endorsed Vice President Harris, and he explicitly endorsed
Speaker 20: President Biden.
Speaker 5: I think that might be Putin playing.
Speaker 20: Around, But as you point out these amounts are insignificant politically,
Speaker 20: ten million sounds like a lot, But if you are
Speaker 20: launching a new craft beer in a very specific local
Speaker 20: market like Cincinnati or Milwaukee, you'd probably have to spend
Speaker 20: more on advertising. You're not going to sway any single
Speaker 20: state or any election with funds like that.
Speaker 2: Christian Witten, We're gonna have to leave with there. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much for your time. Always a pleasure having
Speaker 2: you here on Outsiders. Now stick around after the break.
Speaker 2: This is exciting, No really, it is because there are
Speaker 2: local government elections coming up in New South Wales. Sydney's
Speaker 2: Mayor Clover Moore, she's been in power for twenty years
Speaker 2: and she's finally on the nose. We've got a local
Speaker 2: government candidate who's trying to unseat her. After the break,
Speaker 2: all right, welcome back to Outsiders with Rita Panahee and
Speaker 2: James McPherson this week. We'relling you back with you next week.
Speaker 2: But in the meantime we're coming to here from Sydney.
Speaker 2: The jewel of a Sydney, sunny harborside city by the
Speaker 2: sea and all of that stuff, but of course been
Speaker 2: run down by so it's political leaders including clover Bore
Speaker 2: the Lord Mayor. So joining us now is Sydney Libertarian
Speaker 2: candidate Sewn Masters, who is running for Council and Mayor,
Speaker 2: to tell us all about the local government elections happening
Speaker 2: in New South Wales and why this matters so much,
Speaker 2: not just for Sydney but all of Australia. Shawn Masters,
Speaker 2: welcome to the program. Now I've got to start this
Speaker 2: discussion by asking you a very important question. If you
Speaker 2: are elected Lord Mayor of Sydney, will all those bike
Speaker 2: lanes be plowed up well? If and when? If and when?
Speaker 5: If and when elected?
Speaker 21: Yeah, they look these barklines a scourge. I mean it
Speaker 21: seems as if the overarching plan for the barklines has
Speaker 21: been determined via.
Speaker 2: The aid of a map and a dot.
Speaker 21: They lead to nowhere. Quite often they're leading to conject
Speaker 21: on the roads and they're leading to nowhere to park.
Speaker 21: And the point I'd like to make is that in
Speaker 21: our never ending quest to reach net zero and rid
Speaker 21: the city of cars, all our leaders seem to have
Speaker 21: forgotten that people still drive cars. Certainly families drive cars.
Speaker 21: If you've got kids, you need to pick them up
Speaker 21: from daycare, you need to get them to the pool.
Speaker 21: You need to get get them to the beach, and
Speaker 21: when you get home you need somewhere to park. And
Speaker 21: these bike lanes are reading the city of car parks.
Speaker 21: Not everyone rides a bike in Sydney. I'd like to
Speaker 21: tell clovermore than this council.
Speaker 2: But tell us all about this anti car ideology we
Speaker 2: see across city, but also in other cities Melbourne, it's
Speaker 2: the same thing. You go to other cities, there's this
Speaker 2: hatred of the car. They make it difficult to park.
Speaker 2: They now want to bring in in Sydney thirty kph
Speaker 2: speed limits. I mean, surely that's madness.
Speaker 21: Well yeah, it's I mean it's absurd. It's part of
Speaker 21: this safety culture. But it's also part of this anti
Speaker 21: car as I say, net zero policy. Now, it should
Speaker 21: be pointed out that Clovermore's top priority quoite unquote, as
Speaker 21: she has stated numerous times, is climate change. Now, I
Speaker 21: put it to the good people of Sydney and yourselves
Speaker 21: that it is not the role of local council to
Speaker 21: solve the global problem of climate change or reach net zero.
Speaker 21: I mean, to give it some context, Australia is shipping
Speaker 21: close to three hundred million tons of coal overseas a year.
Speaker 21: China's building a coal fire power station every week. India
Speaker 21: is not far behind. And this mayor and this council
Speaker 21: think they can single handedly solve climate change with bike lanes.
Speaker 21: I guarantee you a generation in the future we'll look
Speaker 21: back with incredulity at how ostensibly the smartest people in
Speaker 21: the room could get it so wrong.
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone's accused counselors of being the smartest.
Speaker 2: Well I may very well be once I take.
Speaker 5: Exception to that.
Speaker 3: Well you can.
Speaker 5: But we do have this.
Speaker 3: Issue really across councils, not just Melbourne Sydney, but in
Speaker 3: the suburbs as well, where it seems to be ideologues
Speaker 3: who are really preoccupied with national and international issues that
Speaker 3: have got nothing to do with local government who get
Speaker 3: on councils. Perhaps I don't know because I can't get
Speaker 3: pre selected for federal seats or whatever other ambitions they have,
Speaker 3: but they they're acting about things like Australia Day and
Speaker 3: the Voice, and global warming and even international issues the
Speaker 3: conflict between Gaza and between Hamas and Israel, instead of
Speaker 3: the very unglamorous business of local government.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 21: Look, I'd want people to realize that we are living
Speaker 21: through a critical moment in history where every single one
Speaker 21: of our institutions is being attacked simultaneously on all side
Speaker 21: by a range of dangerous and divisive ideologies that this
Speaker 21: council and many councils have entirely taken the need to.
Speaker 2: They are now the moral.
Speaker 5: Arbiters of our day to day life.
Speaker 21: They are Clover Moore is reviewing our historical statues. They
Speaker 21: are telling us which way to vote in a referendum.
Speaker 21: They are pushing for a ceasefire in Gaza. They are
Speaker 21: installing hashtag racism not welcome street signs. These are all
Speaker 21: ideological issues that have no place on council. It's somewhat
Speaker 21: of a meme, but it's a truism that councils are
Speaker 21: all about roads, rates, rules rubbish and in Sydney's case,
Speaker 21: yes rats. So the five hours and this is the
Speaker 21: important thing.
Speaker 8: I mean.
Speaker 21: In twenty nineteen, Clover Moore stated that there was declared
Speaker 21: a climate emergency for Sydney. How many climate related deaths
Speaker 21: have there been since twenty nineteen? I mean, the question
Speaker 21: itself is absurd and gives you an idea of the
Speaker 21: hysterical virtue signaling. While she declares the climate emergency for
Speaker 21: Sydney in twenty nineteen, what about the real Sydney emergencies
Speaker 21: like cost of living, affordable housing, People can't pay their rents,
Speaker 21: their rates, as I say, congested roads, there's nowhere to park,
Speaker 21: small businesses are dying, there's zero nightlife. The list goes on.
Speaker 21: Yet this council and this mayor are seemingly solely focused
Speaker 21: on global issues like climate change. And I think it's
Speaker 21: a reasonable summation to make that they because of this
Speaker 21: global focus, they've missed aspestos in parks, they ignored warnings
Speaker 21: about asbestos in local parks. So you know, one of
Speaker 21: my platforms is local issues, not global issues.
Speaker 4: Sean, for people watching from outside of Sydney, I mean
Speaker 4: they might be shocked to find our Lord Meyt has
Speaker 4: been twenty years. Why has she been so successful? And
Speaker 4: is there an appetite for change now?
Speaker 21: Well, look, you know the party won't like me saying
Speaker 21: this Libertarian Party won't like me saying this, But I
Speaker 21: think in the first decade or so, which is quite
Speaker 21: a long time, she did a reasonable job. Parks were
Speaker 21: good and you know, the streets were claim. But then
Speaker 21: around the twenty tens, like so many politicians and yes,
Speaker 21: business leaders around the world, she took the knee to
Speaker 21: ideology and her shift, her attention, her priorities completely shifted
Speaker 21: away from local issues and we've arrived where we are today.
Speaker 2: They've taken there. I mean, they've done nothing to.
Speaker 21: Re establish the nighttime economy, which they've been dragging their
Speaker 21: feed on you. Sydney used to be a twenty four
Speaker 21: hour global city, you know, and clovermore on. This council
Speaker 21: have done nothing to help the nighttime economy with extended
Speaker 21: trading hours, which is what we desperately named, you know, extended.
Speaker 21: Look at Lonsstan's, you know, lifting restrictions on live music
Speaker 21: and small businesses are dying. Small businesses are the lifeblood
Speaker 21: of communities and should be the engine room of the
Speaker 21: economy off but they're dying.
Speaker 2: Fair enough, Thank you so much. Sean Masses really appreciate
Speaker 2: talking to us about the big race for Lord Mayor Cidney.
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Speaker 2: so stay tuned now, Rita James McPherson, we've got a
Speaker 2: bit of breaking news out of politics here. Apparently there's
Speaker 2: a Redbridge poll which suggests that in the Independent Peel
Speaker 2: held seats of Goldstein in Victoria which used to be
Speaker 2: held by Tim Wilson, and in Curtin in Wa, the
Speaker 2: Liberals are now ahead fifty three to forty seven.
Speaker 3: Reader, it is very interesting. Indeed. I've got to say
Speaker 3: Goldstein's my seat and I thought Zoe Daniel would be
Speaker 3: safe there because she's kind of flown under the radar.
Speaker 3: She hasn't really made the sort of headlines a Monique
Speaker 3: Ryan has made it from Qwyong, and I thought she'd
Speaker 3: be re elected. But according to this she's trailing fifty
Speaker 3: three forty seven. This is according to a red Bridge pole,
Speaker 3: so make of that what you will. The full data
Speaker 3: is going to be released later this afternoon, but it's
Speaker 3: certainly interesting and I wouldn't be surprised if there's more
Speaker 3: Teals who are in trouble. And I don't think those
Speaker 3: are necessarily liberal seats. This is no longer liberal heartland.
Speaker 3: I think these will become seats that will go backwards
Speaker 3: and forwards Independence labor, the Liberals, but shows that cost
Speaker 3: of living pressures are hurting even the most affluent in
Speaker 3: those inner city states.
Speaker 2: Well, I think you're right. I actually think guys, that
Speaker 2: there are three reasons why all of the teals we're
Speaker 2: going to see in at least some sort of strife,
Speaker 2: and I think some of them are going to be
Speaker 2: very vulnerable in the next election, and I think they
Speaker 2: are as you say, the cost of living is a
Speaker 2: big thing. I think number two, the fact is that
Speaker 2: you know, the movement James but First was born of
Speaker 2: a very particular moment in time, and a lot of
Speaker 2: it had to do with a crystallization of feeling around
Speaker 2: Scott Morrison. They don't have that anymore, and you can
Speaker 2: see the way Anthony Albinizi tries to recapture some of
Speaker 2: that spirit with Scott Morrison trying to tell ad of
Speaker 2: the Peter Dutton is divisive. Dutton. I don't frankly think
Speaker 2: that works. I don't think that that grows the labor
Speaker 2: base at all and the labor vote at all, because
Speaker 2: the labor vote, as we know, is just absolutely in
Speaker 2: the toilet. But also I think people are reasonable enough
Speaker 2: to understand now that when they have an independent as
Speaker 2: a local member. They don't have a voice in a
Speaker 2: party room, so they don't have any sort of advocacy
Speaker 2: for horse trading to get things to bring things back
Speaker 2: to their electorate. So I think these three factors are
Speaker 2: going to start to mitigate against the Teals, which will
Speaker 2: really read a kind of a vanity movement and kind
Speaker 2: of a luxury good.
Speaker 3: They were definitely a vanity movement. I think Simon Holmes,
Speaker 3: a court in fact, has done a brilliant service for
Speaker 3: the Liberal Party in ridding it of its bedwetters. It's
Speaker 3: smaller Liberals who caused so much division and really confusion,
Speaker 3: ideological confusion. I don't think Peter Dutton could be as
Speaker 3: sound disease now coming out against the voice, coming out
Speaker 3: with nuclear policy if he had all those destructive forces
Speaker 3: still within the party advocating against those positions. So now
Speaker 3: we've got a clear choice coming up to the next election.
Speaker 3: And yeah, the Tills if they were in a if
Speaker 3: the Labor were in minority government, and the Tills had
Speaker 3: some influence, but really the votes are superfluous. They're just
Speaker 3: kind of taking up space there.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Every now and then they get up and have some
Speaker 3: sort of a tantrum about a.
Speaker 11: Mask.
Speaker 3: Just a few weeks ago we had the ridiculous situation
Speaker 3: of Zali Stegel lecturing everybody about standards in Parliament and
Speaker 3: how they weren't good enough, literally days after she had
Speaker 3: to apologize for calling Peter Dutton racist in parliament.
Speaker 2: So the standards only work, I think I think.
Speaker 3: People have had their feel Thank you, Simon Holmes a
Speaker 3: Court for your service to the country. But we're moving on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we are. Hey, you know, you know
Speaker 2: we are moving on from and I don't think it's
Speaker 2: a good idea though. Here's a bit of a segue
Speaker 2: for you and your Rowan has talked about this, and
Speaker 2: I think Rowan is absolutely correct about this, this whole
Speaker 2: move away from cash. And I'll tell you what. I
Speaker 2: have been using cash more and more dealing with all
Speaker 2: sorts of businesses that I go out and patronize. And
Speaker 2: it's great because I tell you what, small businesses love cash.
Speaker 2: Big businesses hate dealing with cash. So as far as
Speaker 2: I'm using cash is a win. But Gloria Jeans, now
Speaker 2: James mc person has decided to say we're not taking
Speaker 2: cash anymore. Could you explain why.
Speaker 4: Well they've explained why, but well, explanations are not particularly good.
Speaker 8: They say two reasons.
Speaker 4: Number one, it'll create a safer environment for staff, So
Speaker 4: I guess Gloria Jeans are worried they're going to be
Speaker 4: robbed if they have cash on premises, Like no one's
Speaker 4: ever had cash on premises before. The second thing they say,
Speaker 4: and this is my favorite, they say having zero cash
Speaker 4: will streamline operations. What are they saying about our education system?
Speaker 4: Apparently they can't find staff who can count out enough change,
Speaker 4: and so if we get rid of that completely, all
Speaker 4: they've got to do is tap and go, and that's
Speaker 4: about all their staff are capable of, according to their explanation. Now,
Speaker 4: it's true that only thirteen percent of for transactions in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two in this country were by cash, but
Speaker 4: doesn't every business, regardless of whether people are using cash
Speaker 4: or not, has an obligation to keep cash available so
Speaker 4: that we never go full digital economy.
Speaker 2: Well not only that, I mean we were talking before
Speaker 2: off the break about you know, the cloud strikeoutage and
Speaker 2: how computers can go down, and it's all very scary
Speaker 2: when you don't have anything to back that up. That
Speaker 2: is why every business should have the facilities to take cash.
Speaker 2: But speaking of it, I've got to.
Speaker 3: Say I'm a bit guilty of just paying for everything
Speaker 3: with my phone. I don't like carrying things.
Speaker 2: But senr purse reader.
Speaker 3: But it goes two ways. Of course, things can crash
Speaker 3: and businesses may not have foster facilities. But as we
Speaker 3: saw with the Canadian truckers, you can also have authorities
Speaker 3: come in and say we don't like your politics. We're
Speaker 3: freezing your bank accounts and if you don't have any
Speaker 3: cash on hand, how are you going to buy your
Speaker 3: central goods and services? I think the control that can
Speaker 3: be exerted if there is no cash is sinister. And
Speaker 3: Gloria Jeans, why would you throw away the trade of say,
Speaker 3: what did you say? Thirteen percent of Australia significant amount
Speaker 3: already And.
Speaker 2: Frankly, if you look at the patrons of Gloria Jeans,
Speaker 2: you know an awful lot of senior Australians order Australians
Speaker 2: who prefer cash, and quite rightfully so, as is the
Speaker 2: writer their desire, that's fine, and it just seems like
Speaker 2: they're alienating customers unnecessarily.
Speaker 3: I would say some in our ethnic community because I
Speaker 3: know a lot of us like Cash. I'm not one
Speaker 3: of them. Unfortunately, I would be disiwned.
Speaker 2: But under the mattress in the castle, we know the castle,
Speaker 2: we know the rules. So also just on technology here,
Speaker 2: I thought this was interesting. Time Magazine, you know, another
Speaker 2: incident where Henry Luce would be spinning in his grave.
Speaker 2: They have snubbed tech Titan and AI backer Elon Musk
Speaker 2: from their annual list of the one hundred most Influential
Speaker 2: people in Artificial Intelligence. But he guess who's on the
Speaker 2: cover here that noted artificial intelligence guru Scarlett Johansson James
Speaker 2: for us.
Speaker 4: And not because she did anything. She didn't contribute anything
Speaker 4: to AI. It's simply that her voice was sampled on
Speaker 4: an AI app.
Speaker 8: So that's my entire contribution.
Speaker 4: Compared to Elon Musk, who's created self driving cars, neurolink
Speaker 4: technology where your brain can be connected to the Internet,
Speaker 4: it's not like Musk has done anything.
Speaker 3: I'm sure that an AI platform.
Speaker 2: Are years of.
Speaker 8: Time magazine will be very upset about this. I'm sure.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, no, it's a real shape. But I mean, Rita,
Speaker 2: we were talking before about some of the technology and
Speaker 2: the threat that some of this technology also has in
Speaker 2: terms of you know, political control. I mean you are
Speaker 2: talking about Russian influence, but it seems like a lot
Speaker 2: of the search engines and the intelli the the you
Speaker 2: know things that people have like Alexa and things like
Speaker 2: that are all designed to influence elections.
Speaker 3: Absolutely big tech are They is an enormous threat to
Speaker 3: democrat It's how we find information. Google has this virtual monopoly.
Speaker 3: It is so ideological you don't have to dig too
Speaker 3: deep to see that. And just this week we saw Alexa,
Speaker 3: which is an Amazon product, get caught out where people asked, Alexa,
Speaker 3: why should I vote for Donald Trump? It refused to
Speaker 3: give an answer. But when he sat when you asked
Speaker 3: why should I vote for Harris, then there was a
Speaker 3: hundred reasons to vote for Kamala. She was a visionary,
Speaker 3: she was breaking barriers, had this amazing record. And Amazon
Speaker 3: came out and said, oh no, that was just an
Speaker 3: innocent mistake. It was an error. We're going to fix it.
Speaker 2: Direction.
Speaker 3: All of them go in the one direction. So I
Speaker 3: don't think anyone's buying that. And we're seeing even Zuckerberg,
Speaker 3: who and I still think Facebook and Instagram his platforms
Speaker 3: are amongst the most left leaning ideologic weak to censor.
Speaker 3: But he's now trying to play both sides. He's coming
Speaker 3: out and talk talking about how authorities are putting pressure
Speaker 3: on him to suppress legitimate information and how he's not
Speaker 3: happy with this. I think he's just scared of a
Speaker 3: second Trump term and what that could mean for meta.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, he had that incredible admission in that letter
Speaker 2: that basically he at the behest of the FBI and
Speaker 2: a government official sense and stuff about the Hunter Bydon Laptop,
Speaker 2: about COVID and all of that just quickly, James mcpreson,
Speaker 2: I think you know your way around a pulpit. Is
Speaker 2: greenism becoming its own new religion here, because apparently, according
Speaker 2: to National Public Radio in the States, there are now
Speaker 2: eco chaplains around to help get people over their climate.
Speaker 8: Grief environmental lower climate change.
Speaker 2: We had to do that.
Speaker 4: It's a religion course for urban atheists, James. But can
Speaker 4: you imagine anything worse than sitting around in a climate
Speaker 4: grief circle sharing your exercise.
Speaker 2: For accuso to confession and sy Yeah, let's me father,
Speaker 2: I bought a v eighth.
Speaker 4: Well, we've got saints, creta, we've got sinners.
Speaker 8: The miners. We've got penance.
Speaker 4: You can pay your carbon credits when you book your
Speaker 4: virgin fly. We've got all the benefits of religion without God.
Speaker 4: It's wonderful for urban atheists.
Speaker 2: Whether that's the grace either or the forgiveness. And we
Speaker 2: also have news that Kamala Harris has hired somebody as
Speaker 2: a top advisor in her campaign who is from the
Speaker 2: climate group that has been out there trying to get
Speaker 2: gas stoves. Band I always say from my cold dead
Speaker 2: hands on that one. Anyway, thanks so much for joining
Speaker 2: us here on outside of this week, we'll be back
Speaker 2: next week. Throughout the week, you can watch Rita on
Speaker 2: Lefties Losing It. You can watch James Nixon and the
Speaker 2: Rita Panny Show. We got, we got jameson Pierson. And
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Speaker 2: See you there and see you next Sunday.