WEBVTT - Outsiders | 8 September 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:18.079 Non Skyings Australia starts. Now this is outside Hello and 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:19.360 welcome to outsiders. 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:24.440 The opinion show that is to woke virtue signaling, identity politics, 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:29.120 socialist economics, environmental scare mongering and playing the race card 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:32.880 on steroids. What's soon to be departed? Labor heavy hitter 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:37.800 and outgoing ndis Minister Bill Shorten is to cutting a rug. 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:52.920 Yes, eat your heart out, Elaine Benner's I don't know 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:56.080 what was going on there exactly, but it turns out 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:59.000 dancing isn't the only thing. Bill Shorten is not very 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:02.720 good at pop. Also had a controant for bad predictions, 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:05.959 such as this mother of all bad calls back in 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:10.520 twenty eighteen talking to visiting movie star Arnold Schwarzenegger. 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:21.480 Now that was in twenty eighteen, but it was the 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.520 following year, in twenty nineteen, when he would see his 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:26.920 ambitions to one day hold the keys to the lodge 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:29.959 come to grief in no small part due to this 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.760 little incent on Q and A talking about his mother. 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:34.399 And my mum. 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:38.200 She became a teacher, but she wanted to be a lawyer. 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.520 But she was the eldest in the family so needed 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:42.560 to take the teacher scholarship to look after the rest 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:45.920 of the kids. My mum was a brilliant woman. She 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:50.040 wasn't bitter. She worked here for thirty five years. But 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:53.200 I also know that if she had had other opportunities, 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:57.800 she could have done anything. What motivates me if you 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.480 really want to know who Bill Shorten is. I can't 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:03.120 make it right for my mom, but I can make 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:04.320 it right for everyone else. 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.560 That sob story was meant to elicit sympathy and suggests 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:12.000 that Shorten's mother was hard done by, But it turned 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.040 out there was more to the story. 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:18.000 Yes, because far from failing to realize her potential and 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:23.720 short It was a successful trailblazer in legal education, winning 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:27.560 a Supreme Court prize in nineteen eighty five. Now, my 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.600 colleagues at the Daily Telegraph at the time reported this 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:35.280 factually and praised miss Shortened's success, while also taking issue 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:39.639 with her son's characterization of her as being hard done by. 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.440 We were, of course, pillaried by all the usual suspects, 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.680 but it was the truth, and it may have been 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:52.760 the moment when that unlosable twenty nineteen election became anything but. 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:55.760 And with that, let's have a look at what else 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.480 is going on in the world with a little outsider's news. 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.040 Oh well, I'm in the chair this week for Rowan 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.360 while he takes a little well deserved break, And of 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:10.240 course I'm joined as always by Rita Panahee and making 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:12.880 a special one off appearance here at the desk our 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:17.400 great friend James mick Pherson. Now, guys, huge week, I 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:23.679 reckon on the economic front, we have seen cholbers albonomics 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:26.480 just you know, coming to grief, our living standards going 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:29.640 ever further backwards with the release of this week's national 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:34.200 account figures. And Rita, what does Jim Chalmers do. He 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.480 doesn't say, Oh, we're going to change a new way. 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.600 We're gonna, you know, stop spending all this money, We're 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.480 gonna stop driving inflation up. No, what does he do? 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:43.240 He picks a fight with the RBA. 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:48.440 He does. It's not the dumb thing. And those figures 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.400 weren't great because we are in a per capita recession. 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:53.560 We have been in one for some time. 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:55.920 Now, six quarters in a row, eight. 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:59.440 Months, and it's that's what matters. The per capita figures 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:02.520 are what. It doesn't matter if you flood the country 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:06.120 with new people. So economic activity goes up and those 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:09.280 overall figures look okay when you look at it. When 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:12.440 you break it down per person, we're going backwards and 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:16.520 people are feeling that. And it's not surprising that these 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:20.160 interest rate rises are not having the impact on inflation 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:23.760 they expect. Robert Gobleson wrote a fantastic piece about this 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:26.880 in The Australian during the week. The reasons are obvious 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:31.880 to anyone with even a basic understanding of economics. The 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:36.080 government pouring money into the economy. They are just spending 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:40.480 like drunken sailors. That's pushing up inflation. We've gone as 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.760 a country to one of the cheapest places for energy 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:47.280 costs to one of the most expensive. That's pushing up inflation. 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:51.560 We've got a push to have wages growth to give 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:55.719 people some relief, but that's actually pushing up inflation and 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:58.599 making it harder. So there is a number of reasons, 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:03.200 all of them entirely dictable. But the number one reason, James, 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:06.480 is that the virtual government is pouring a lot of 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:10.320 money into the economy and these interest rates are hurting, 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:12.400 but they're not hurting enough to bring down inflation. 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:14.800 Well, Rita, that's a great explanation of the economics here, 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:16.799 But James McPherson, I want to talk to you about 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:20.040 the politics of this because you know, it seems to 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:22.760 me that if you ever wanted to hear about and 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:26.320 we hear about right wing populism all the time, this 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:31.159 strikes me and James McPherson as classic left wing populism. 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:35.240 You know, they've decided to go out and attack an institution, 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:40.919 an independent institution, the RBA. It strikes me that had 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:44.680 a conservative government blamed all of their troubles on the 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:47.520 Reserve Bank rather than their own policies. You know, the 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:51.560 RBA has only one lever interest rates. The government has 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:54.080 a lot of different things that can do. It seems 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.279 to me that they would be an affair, bit of strife. 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:58.800 Well, of course Chalmers came out and accused the RBA 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.800 of bullying Australians effectively with interest rates. But then to 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.440 make matters better, he enlisted the help of the world's 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:06.279 greatest ever treasurer Wayne Swan. 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:08.039 Well, let's have a little bit of weir swine. You 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:08.560 have a look at this. 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:14.880 The Reserve Bank is putting economic dogma over rational economic 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:18.840 decision making, hammering households, hammering mums, and dads with higher 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:22.720 rates causing a collapse in spending and driving the economy 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:27.400 backwards doesn't necessarily deal with the principal pushes when it 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:29.640 comes to higher inflation. The government is doing a lot 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:31.960 to bring down inflation, but the Reserve Bank is simply 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:36.040 punching itself in the face. It's counterproductive and it's not 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:39.440 good economic policy, and I'm incredibly disappointed at what they're doing. 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:41.200 Well, that's wonderful. 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.440 If the Reserve Bank is punching itself in the face, 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.760 the government's kicking itself in the teeth. You've got record spending, 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:50.160 you've got record immigration, all of which, as you said, Rita, 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.839 is contributing to inflationary pressures. 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:54.120 And I've got two questions. 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:58.440 Firstly for Jim Chalmers, who are pointed handpicked appointed the 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:02.240 Reserve Bank governors, so it's a bit rich to now 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:05.560 complain about her. And as for Wayne Swan, how many 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.240 surpluses was it the t managed to get over his 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:11.400 six years as treasurer Well, but he. 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:13.880 Didn't deliver any I've got to say one thing, though, 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.600 one thing I do in a strange way, I agree 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:19.680 with some of the retrick we're hearing from Labor. I 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.920 think the Reserve Bank also has to understand that hurting 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:26.360 every day Australians with his interest rate increases that are 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:30.200 really making some people question whether they can hold on 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.520 to their homes. They're going to have to be under 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:36.120 so much mortgage stress that they're considering selling. People are 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:39.480 going without, people are making all sorts of lifestyle decisions 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:42.920 because of these interest rate increases at a time when 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:47.120 the government is just spending in a crazy manner. I 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.480 think that's got to be talked about as well, because yes, 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:53.200 the Reserve Bank only has one method, but when that 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:56.560 method is hurting every day Australians and it's not bringing 0:07:56.600 --> 0:08:01.120 down inflation successfully because the how man is spending, that've 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:04.240 got to consider the dead as well. Are they just 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:07.120 going to keep doing this until people are selling house? 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:10.080 It is the mortgage stress. It is not just the spending. 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:13.160 It is also you know what they're restraint of private 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:18.000 enterprise versus h you know, shoveling everything into the government. 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.560 The only employment growth we're seeing right now Rita and 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:24.760 James is in government and government related services, you know, 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:27.640 the NDIS and all of that. We saw Bill short 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.040 and pull the pin on his job there to go 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:31.720 get a million dollars a year from A and U. 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.240 But this issue of inflation, this is something that I 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:39.400 hear people at every level of society talk about. I 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.320 heard somebody had a great line yesterday on Twitter. They said, 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:45.880 since Albanisi took power, the Australian people to become so 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.880 much more strong, they can carry five hundred dollars worth 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.240 of groceries in just one hand. And I thought that 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:53.920 was a good line. But people are really talking about it. 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:56.280 But James mac Pherson here in New South Wales, we've 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:59.839 got this other issue too, because we see they're added 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:02.880 towards private enterprise and the things that will continue to 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:06.600 make us rich, like mining. Peter Dutton this week has 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:09.880 come out and said they will go to reverse this 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:13.120 decision to shut down or stop the tailing stamp from 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:16.200 this Phillamy's gold mine outside of Arms, which we employed 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:19.000 hundreds of people, had huge flow on effects for the region. 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:19.719 Tell us about it. 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:23.000 We've got eight hundred potential jobs that are now gone 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:25.839 because of this decision by Tenure Pliversecond, I should add 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:27.719 a decision that she will not explain. 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:29.360 She's made a decision to. 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.600 Absurd as a reason why she won't explain it as 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:36.600 she's not politically a fool. She knows she's going to 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:40.040 take a bad situation and turned a catastrophic for herself 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.560 if she tries to explain this and this is eight 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.839 hundred well paid jobs in the regions two hundred million 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:46.440 dollars worth. 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:48.640 Instead coffers to the men's government. 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.079 Chris Mins wants this project to go ahead. So you've 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:54.160 got sensible labor people questioning Tanny Plivsek. 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:58.760 But here's the thing, reader, you know tiny Plibersek as 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.720 environment minister, this is going to be a huge worry 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.440 if we go to an election. Well, we'll go to 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.040 an election, but after that election, if you wind up 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:10.560 with a Labor government in deep minority having to do 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:14.319 deals with the Greens because now Rita the Greens are 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.480 demanding that they have where the tiny plus have new 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:22.280 powers to block fossil fuel projects. If she gets her 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.880 way and has this new environmental department tell us about. 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.400 This, well I would not be surprised. I don't think 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:31.000 actually the Labor government needs much encouragement. They have been 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:37.920 thoughting development out being just anti fossil fuels that are 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:42.080 obsessed with their emission targets, though they are questioning whether 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:45.960 they can meet some of those targets. But this is 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.600 another reason why we're in the economic woes that we're in, 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.720 is that this is a government filled with people who 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:56.600 do not understand what it takes to run a successful business. 0:10:56.720 --> 0:11:00.680 They don't understand the economy that come from political backgrounds. 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:03.400 There they been in the union movement or being staffers, 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:07.040 they've been bureaucrats. How many people within the federal government, 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:10.200 Dang James, you're in Canberra every week have any sort 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:12.280 of business understanding or experience. 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:15.280 Yeah, well it's it's shockingly few, and it's shockingly few, 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:19.360 particularly on the labor side, where the career to sit 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.560 on those front benches or the backbenches is, you know, 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:26.360 literally you start in student politics and then you get 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.360 a job as a staffer for an MP or a minister, 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:31.640 or you go work for one of the unions. And 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:33.640 then if you're you know, good, and you play the 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:36.080 politics and you work the machine right, then maybe you 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:38.320 get pre selected. Then maybe you get a seat, and 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.520 then that's how it works. Literally, these people spend their 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:46.120 entire life doing this. I think Albanezy had a tiny 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.440 little time working as a bank teller or something when 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:51.440 he was a university. That's it tiny plaps her whole 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:55.400 life in this system. That entire system of labor is 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.400 keeping people divorce around it. 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.160 This whole situation is a great to fall for this government. 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:04.240 This government takes gold but leaves it in the ground, 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:06.520 so won't maximize the wealth of. 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:07.720 Out natural resources. 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.640 But at the same time they want to start a 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.520 solar panel building industry, which we can never do as 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:17.080 cheaply as China. So everything that is inefficient this government 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.120 is committed to, and everything that's obvious. We've got wealth 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.720 right under the dirt. They want to leave it there. 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:24.800 And I'll tell you Chris Ben's the Premier of New 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:26.560 South Wales's labor, but he is one of the most 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:30.440 sensible voices in this country. He has said that getting 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.040 all of these other minerals out of the ground is 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.520 the way that New South Wales and Australia will wind 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:40.280 up continuing to maintain this prosperity. Because reader, I think 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:44.400 there's this attitude on the left, particularly where they haven't 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:48.160 worked in industry, that thinks that just prosperity is assured 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:51.680 that Australia will always be a prosperous nation. Will always 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.000 be rich. We've been rich before, will always be that way. 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.839 It is, And I think that extends sadly to much 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.840 of the public where they don't really have a con 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:03.040 concerned for the national debt. They don't really look at 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:06.360 the GDB because the figures. Obviously they know inflation's biting. 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.480 It's hurting them week in and week out when they're 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:13.200 buying their groceries and doing their budgeting. But there needs 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.679 to be an appreciation that when we are in debt, 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.320 as say, the state of Victoria is biggest debt in 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:22.360 the country, state debt in the country, everybody pays. Eventually, 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:26.280 if you want to own property, if you've got payland tax, 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:30.080 it becomes so oppressive. If you employ people and you 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:33.720 pay payroll tax, it becomes even more oppressive. So I 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:39.160 think that understanding is going to become apparent as these 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:41.640 policies actually hurt everyday people. 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:44.520 Yeah, now we're going to have Richard Richard kemp on 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:46.680 in a couple of minutes to talk more about what's 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:48.160 been going on in the Rebilite is going to join 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:51.120 us live from Tel Aviv. But the politics of the 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.959 Middle East are playing out Rita and James right here 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:56.880 in Australia. And again this is another thing that I 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:00.680 think shows Lever's weakness and their lack of fine. Here 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:04.400 there is a high profile doctor out in Tony Burke's 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:08.280 seat in Western Sydney. He has shared social media posts 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:14.080 that essentially seemed to celebrate the October seventh attax terror Attached, 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.400 which were coming up on the very grim almost one 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:20.240 year anniversary of Now James McPherson tell me about this. 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.200 It seemed like it took an awful long time for 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:26.400 Tony Burke to come out and talk about this. He 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:29.800 didn't talk about it in the Sydney Morning Herald article 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.840 that first reported this. I asked his office the next 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.240 day and I got a statement that basically said, look, 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.760 he's always condemned this sort of thing, which like, fine, 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.200 why did you say something at the time. Is labor 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:45.520 running scared from voters who and voting blocks that might 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:49.040 have a somewhat different view? Shall we say about Israel 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:52.800 and it's continued existence those of us here on this desk. 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:55.480 Surely that is a rhetorical question. I think the answer 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:58.880 is very very clear. They are of course running scared. 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:02.280 They're making foreign pols see based on a few Western seats, 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:04.960 and Tony Burke was very slow to come out and 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.600 condemn this post that for those who haven't seen it, 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:09.320 though we showed it on screen just a moment ago, 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.880 you had the image of a paraglider as they did, 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:19.520 they went slaughtered four hundred Israeli young people. And the 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:22.400 caption that this candidate in Tony Burke's seat put on 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:26.600 the post was dreams do come true. So for Tony Burke, 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:29.760 who is not just a local member, he's responsible for 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:34.120 home affairs, he's responsible for keeping the community safe. For 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.440 him not to come out immediately and condemn this shows 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.640 his more in my view, he's more concerned about his 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:44.600 local electorate and his standing in future electoral prospects then 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.400 is about doing the job of keeping Australian safe from 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:47.960 this kind of. 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.320 Retro And this gets us to the whole visas for 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:53.760 votes scandal, which I think really is a scandal because nobody, 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:55.800 nobody was simply asking and say, hey, you know what 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:57.160 we need to do. We need to give you know, 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:02.160 thousands of visas to people from Gaza, where large proportions 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:05.200 of the population support har Maas and in fact, today 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.280 the Australia they've reported that even after this war, Harmas 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.880 is likely to stay in power and still have the support. 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:12.880 But you know, hey, why not give them visas, give 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.320 them tourists visas, let them come on in. Really tell 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:18.840 us what happened in Melbourne with Josh Friedenburg too, there 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:19.160 was a. 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:22.480 Yeah, he's wanting to have an event at a schooled 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:27.040 It's going to be Novapere's neb and I think is 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.440 also going to be there. So it's a sort of 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:36.000 event about unity and support, talking about anti semitism. But 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:39.760 the schools now alarmed because they are worried about I mean, 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.960 how can you be worried about a labor figure, a 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:46.400 liberal figure. Also Deborah Conway, the musician, was going to 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:50.200 be there, and they now worry that these crazy activists 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:55.400 are going to perhaps attack the attendees. So there's there's 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:58.800 all sorts of question marks about how this is going 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:02.080 to go ahead. It is just it's justice le and 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:07.120 there's just been way too much tolerance, permissive attitude from 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:10.880 the political class for much of the media class, certainly 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:14.600 the activist class to this anti semitism from the left. 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:18.320 If they sniff anti Semitism on the right, they condemn 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:20.840 it as that as they should, but when it's on 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:24.200 the left and it actually has some institutional power because 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.080 we're not just talking about you know, nobody is there 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.840 people who are in academia, who are in politics, who've 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:35.560 got some influence, and there seems to be very little condemnation. 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:42.720 That's absolutely has been. Peter has had an absolutely perfect 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:46.399 moral compass on this since October seventh. Of course, not 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:49.240 just Melbourne and Sydney. Up in Brisbane, a Brisbane Green's 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:52.760 councilor is being asked to repay twenty thousand dollars after 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:56.960 printing a pamphlet for their constituents because of course it's 0:17:57.000 --> 0:18:00.879 what counsel is all about about Israel and why Palestine 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.800 would be free within our lifetime. So that's happening up 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:06.600 in Brisbane. Now. To bring us all the latest in 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:09.200 the ever escalating conflicts in the Middle East is former 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:13.399 British Commander Richard Kemp live from Tel Aviv. Richard, thanks 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:15.840 so much for coming on the program. I want to 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:19.440 start here because Rita had just mentioned the media class 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:23.800 here and how they misreport so much of what goes 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:28.280 on in the Middle East and between Israel and the Palestinians. 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:31.159 There's just been a report come down about the BBC 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:36.560 and the way they have mishandled their coverage of the 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:40.160 Israel Palestinian conflicts since October seventh. What can you tell 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:40.679 us about that? 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:46.119 Yeah, well, I've read this report that's just been issued, 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:50.520 and I've also been watching a fair bit of BBC 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:54.280 coverage since the war began. Painful load is to watch 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:58.240 because there is no question in my mind that every 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:01.520 time the BBC covers the war out here in Israel, 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:08.480 it is horrifically biased towards her mass There's always undue 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:09.960 criticism Israel. 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:11.840 And they go easy on Hermas. 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:14.840 There's no doubt in my mind that is a consistent 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:18.240 editorial policy, and it's been that way with the BBC 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:21.760 for a long time, not just during this conflict, but 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:23.200 certainly since I can. 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:24.879 Ever remember BBC covering them. 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:28.600 At least, there's just an ex and it's not even 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:31.960 necessarily only a factual bias, but it's also in the 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:35.160 tone of their reporting and the way that they try 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:41.600 and interview, for example, IDEF spokespeople and things that always 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:47.080 at least the implication that the Israeli spokespeople are alying 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:50.600 and that's the kind of impression you get. And this 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:54.639 report has essentially, i think, borne that out and suggested 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:58.520 that I think since the war began, at least fifteen 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:02.800 hundred times, the BBC has breached its own editorial guidelines 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:05.760 for impartiality on the conflict over here. 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.239 Shocking and of course in the UK you have to 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:10.720 pay for a license to watch the BBC. I think 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:12.800 it's a shocking dereliction of people's money. 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:17.400 But anyway, reader, switching to the US and the support 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:21.480 they're providing to Israel right now. But the Biden Harris 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:26.560 administration seems to be wavering. We had Biden even that 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:30.760 this week come out and say that Netanyahu isn't doing 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:35.560 enough to secure a cease fire. Explain what's happening in 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:39.000 that relationship and what the impact is on what Israel 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:39.600 does next. 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:43.280 Yeah, I mean, this is one of the key issues 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:47.119 here in Israel at the moment is that the Seas 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:51.760 via oblique hostage release negotiations that have been going on 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:55.920 for a considerable time now. And you know, as you 0:20:56.000 --> 0:21:00.720 mentioned just recently, President and Biden suggested that who is 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:04.520 not doing enough to get the released yet? In recent 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:08.640 weeks and in days recent days, in fact, the Deputy 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:14.480 Director of the CIA has praised Israel for going pretty 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:16.680 much all the way as far as it can possibly 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:21.240 go in terms of compromising on negotiations, and the same 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:23.200 as true of Secretary of State. 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:24.359 So there's mixed. 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:27.560 Messages coming out of Washington, and then the Prime Minister 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:31.800 over here, Prime Minister Neto recently spoke to try and 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:36.399 parify the situation, which is effectively they're the ones that 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:39.919 have shown flexibility as much as it is possible, and 0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:43.520 it's not possible to be to completely accept all of 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:46.840 her master's terms, but her math have been completely intransigent. 0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:50.480 One of the key issues that is being discussed here 0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:54.800 is the Philadelphi Corridor, which is essentially the border between 0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:58.760 Gaza and Egypt, which Israel is currently in control. It's 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:02.360 a lifeline for her, and there's some people who suggest 0:22:02.480 --> 0:22:07.080 that the idea of should withdraw from that corridor in 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:10.760 order to encourage Hamas to come to some kind of deal. 0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:13.520 Other people, like the Prime Minister and some of the 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.719 people around him, say this can't happen. This is this 0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:22.439 is basically our most probably the most critical grounding Gaza 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:26.760 for completing the mission of destroying a mouse in Gaza. 0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:28.920 That's interesting, Richard. 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:31.320 We're all aware that Iran, of course, is stirring up 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:33.600 trouble in the region. But I want to ask you 0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:37.520 about Turkey, because overnight the president of Turkey has met 0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:39.840 with the leader of Egypt and he has said there 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:43.280 needs to be an alliance of Islamic nations against Israel 0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:47.200 to stop what he calls Israeli expansion. Can you believe 0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:50.639 can you talk to me about Turkey's involvement in this? 0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:52.760