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Speaker 1: On scols Oscodia.

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Speaker 2: This is the Reader Panehy Show.

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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panehy Show. I'm

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Speaker 3: Dankity Giorgio coming up tonight. Another anti Submitic attack, this

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Speaker 3: time cars are torched and graffiti sprayed in one of

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Speaker 3: Sydney's Jewish suburbs. Carmala Harris becomes the cash cow. Josh

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Speaker 3: Hammer will tell us the iwatering amount of money she

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Speaker 3: blew during the election campaign. Bartia and Gasadan on whether

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden will make more preemptive pardons before he steps down,

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Speaker 3: jay Z Beyonce and their daughter put on the United

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Speaker 3: Front as he faces rape allegations. And Lamollard will join

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Speaker 3: us with all the celebrity and royal news and of

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Speaker 3: course Lefty losing it, including another day another Joe Biden malfunction.

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Speaker 4: And you know one of the things that's going on

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Speaker 4: here is they just turned off my I'm going to

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Speaker 4: a vote. A last electrician here.

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Speaker 3: For first Joining me now is Menzies Research Center. Seeing you,

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Speaker 3: fellow Nick cat Nick, good to see you. I want

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Speaker 3: to start with these latest anti Semitic attacks in Sydney

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Speaker 3: overnight where cars were set alive. There was anti Semitic

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Speaker 3: graffiti sprayed on walls, and this was in an area

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Speaker 3: as well that has a large Jewish population.

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Speaker 5: Nick, I want to get.

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Speaker 3: Your reaction to these latest incidents and how much can

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Speaker 3: this be attributed to Labour's complete and utter failure to

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Speaker 3: stamp it out from the start.

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Speaker 6: Well, the first thing is, I mean I think hearts

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Speaker 6: grow out for the people in Wulara, in fact that

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Speaker 6: whole Eastern Suburbs district. I mean, we've had this long,

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Speaker 6: i think pointless debate about whether the attack on the

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Speaker 6: synagogue last week was terrorism, but it certainly has the

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Speaker 6: effect of terrorism, as this does to strike terror into

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Speaker 6: the community, to make them feel uneasy about going out

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Speaker 6: at night, about whenever they hear a bang or a

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Speaker 6: knock in the night, be worried what is happening out there.

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Speaker 6: It is the most appalling behavior and we want to

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Speaker 6: see the police crack down. I think it does come

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Speaker 6: down to leadership. I've just come back from New York, Danika,

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Speaker 6: and I was there for the Macy's Thanksgiving parade when

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Speaker 6: the Palestinian demonstrators sat down in front of Ronald MacDonald

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Speaker 6: and blocked the parade. But the police had warned at

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Speaker 6: the start they would have a zero tolerance approach for

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Speaker 6: anybody blocking the route, and sure enough they moved in

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Speaker 6: no hesitation, strong armed these people out of the way

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Speaker 6: with complete force and complete decisiveness. And that is the

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Speaker 6: way you have to do it. It's a zero tolerance

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Speaker 6: policing that New York has become famous for, but in

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Speaker 6: this case they put it into practice for anybody who

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Speaker 6: is disrupting the public going about their normal business or

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Speaker 6: in this case, I think, terrorizing them. So I do

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Speaker 6: want to It's good to see the police now speaking

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Speaker 6: a lot more strongly, and to see the Prime Minister

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Speaker 6: come out right away. Seems to have learned his lesson

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Speaker 6: and condemned this in the most in the strongest possible terms.

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Speaker 6: It's taken him a while to get that habit, but

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Speaker 6: I'm glad that he did it. But we really, I think,

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Speaker 6: need to see some strong policing now and some arrests.

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Speaker 6: I mean, for goodness sake, if these were real terrorists,

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Speaker 6: you'd want them to be arrested, wouldn't you. Police have

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Speaker 6: got all sorts of powers, listening equipment, all the rest.

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Speaker 6: Surely they should put all this to work now to

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Speaker 6: root out these people and to get them into before

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Speaker 6: the courts.

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Speaker 3: Oh look absolutely, I mean if labor is faired income,

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Speaker 3: they will make sure that all authorities do exactly that.

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Speaker 3: But gosh, it's been how many months, fourteen fifteen months,

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Speaker 3: and only now are we're getting this reaction from alban Easy.

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Speaker 3: It's just too little, too late. Now I want to

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Speaker 3: talk to you about Labour's renewables only fantasy, which as

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Speaker 3: we know, is sending.

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Speaker 5: Us broke and backwards. It's now been revealed that wind solar.

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Speaker 3: And battery developers are tapping into a federal subsidy scheme

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Speaker 3: which guarantees them a revenue flow now that is fully

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Speaker 3: funded by us, the Australian taxpayers for the next fifteen years.

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Speaker 3: And Nick, is this going to be another blowout for

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Speaker 3: taxpayers funding this pipe dream.

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Speaker 6: With the liability on taxpayers, isn't it. If these people

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Speaker 6: don't get the money that they want, then the government's

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Speaker 6: going to fork out. The government's basically underwriting all the

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Speaker 6: risk on their business. It doesn't do that to anything else.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't do that to Sky News for instance. You

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Speaker 6: take the risk you're a private enterprise company. But here

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Speaker 6: the government is taking the risk and this doesn't really

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Speaker 6: fit with the whole line from Chris Bowen that renewables

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Speaker 6: are the cheapest form of energy. They are there is.

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Speaker 6: If they were, then they wouldn't need to put these

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Speaker 6: incentives in place. They wouldn't need to bribe developers with

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Speaker 6: there's not a lot of appetite for this kind of development.

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Speaker 6: It's far too expensive. You don't get those costs back

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Speaker 6: in terms of energy. The only way you can make

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Speaker 6: money out of wind and solar is through government substance,

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Speaker 6: through renewable energy certificates and other forms of subsidy, which

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Speaker 6: in this case is basically saying well, we're going to

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Speaker 6: make sure you get paid this fixed price. It'd be nice,

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Speaker 6: wouldn't it for every other business in Australia. Have he

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Speaker 6: got the same deal if you set up a corner

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Speaker 6: store and the government said, oh well, if you're not

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Speaker 6: going to make enough money, we're going to prop you up.

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Speaker 6: But it does it here, and it just makes nonsense

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Speaker 6: of the whole bowing rhetoric about this being cheap and

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Speaker 6: the best form of power.

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Speaker 3: It's not Oh I mean, look that rhetoric, it's just

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Speaker 3: it just keeps going, doesn't it. The bow and rhetoric

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Speaker 3: never sees to amaze. Now, Australia has officially launched a

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Speaker 3: Pacific policing initiative. This is worth hundreds of millions of

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Speaker 3: dollars and it's in an effort to fend off China's

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Speaker 3: growing assertiveness in the region. It's a four hundred million

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Speaker 3: dollar pledge from the alb and Easy government to build

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Speaker 3: up policing capabilities across the region over the next five years. Nick,

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Speaker 3: do you actually think that this will have an impact?

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Speaker 6: Well, let's see, but it's certainly an initiative in the

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Speaker 6: right direction. I have to say here that I think

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Speaker 6: both governments are both have been far too lax about

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Speaker 6: their responsibility in our near region in the Pacific in

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Speaker 6: getting in there to help countries in every way we

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Speaker 6: can in order to stop China coming in and basically

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Speaker 6: buying up these places, which it's been doing.

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 6: I don't know whether this initiative is enough money, whether

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Speaker 6: it's going to be effective, but certainly I'm glad to

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Speaker 6: see the initiative has been taken. It's pretty much the

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Speaker 6: same in Latin America, by the way, where the Americans

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Speaker 6: are saying they have to get much more involved now

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Speaker 6: to stop Chinese influence in place like Nicaragua and Venezuela.

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Speaker 6: Got China is doing it. China is assertive, it's essentially

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, look, we've got to do something about it. I'm

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Speaker 3: very interesting to see if this scheme actually does work,

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Speaker 3: but I do agree with you it's a step in

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Speaker 5: A worry one.

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Speaker 3: In for emergency to apartment patients in New South Wales

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Speaker 3: say they wouldn't be there if they had access to

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Speaker 3: a GP, according to the Bureau of Health Information, which

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Speaker 3: has revealed twenty eight percent of ED patients surveyed would

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Speaker 3: have opted to see a GP but simply had no

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Speaker 3: I've heard this happen a lot in the regions in particular.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're at crisis point. There's not enough doctors,

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Speaker 3: not enough gps out there, and hospitals are being overrhum.

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Speaker 3: But we're now seeing this in the cities But the

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Speaker 3: problem here is as well as that EDS have these

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Speaker 3: patients who go there, they've got non life threatening injuries

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Speaker 3: but are still presenting.

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Speaker 5: But how do we get here?

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Speaker 3: Why is this crisis so dire that people simply cannot

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Speaker 6: We just don't have enough GPS. They're not enough incentives

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Speaker 6: there for the GPS. We have to look at this

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Speaker 6: treatment is enough. I mean it seems woefully and adequate.

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Speaker 6: But what's not working Dnit is these GP superclinics. This

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Speaker 6: was labor solution last time, you know, put a lot

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Speaker 6: of tax payers money into making these GPS superclinics to

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Speaker 6: stop this kind of stuff happening. Well, it hasn't made

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Speaker 6: any difference. I know there are from initiatives where GP

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Speaker 6: but on a small scale. But we just have to

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Speaker 6: do a lot more. And in the end it comes down,

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Speaker 6: doesn't it, to a shortage of doctors. And up to

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Speaker 6: now we've been thinking, well we can just bring in doctors,

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Speaker 6: but there are fewer and fewer trained doctors ready to

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Speaker 6: not the solution. We have to train more doctors. We

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Speaker 6: have to encourage more people to go into that great profession,

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Speaker 6: and I think to encourage those of them who will

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Speaker 6: public service, because being a GP is very much a

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Speaker 6: a labor of love.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a labor of love, and I think

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Speaker 3: a result. Now, Nico, I really liked this from Overnight.

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Speaker 3: America's new right hand man, of course, JD. Vance, the

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Speaker 3: soon to be Vice President of the United States. Well,

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Speaker 3: he has met with former Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott.

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Speaker 3: In fact, Tony Abbert he posted this beaming snap I

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Speaker 3: would say to x a company by quite a glowing endorsement.

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Speaker 5: Of the new second in charge he says.

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Speaker 3: An honor to catch up with incoming Vice President jd

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Speaker 3: Vance at a fraud time. America is blessed to have

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Speaker 3: leadership of such caliber. Nick, I think we can all agree.

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Speaker 3: Jd Vance is a wonderful speaker. I think he's going

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Speaker 3: to be a terrific vice president. But it's good that

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Speaker 3: Tony Abbot's already out there taking hands and hopefully helping

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I was in Washington actually last week with Tony Abbott

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Speaker 6: Danube Institute event, and he was meeting a lot of people.

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Speaker 6: But this is the selfie to die for, isn't it? Well,

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Speaker 6: probably the second best selfie to get in America right now,

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Speaker 6: the best being with Donald Trump. If I'd known he

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Speaker 6: my own. But yeah, I mean it's great to see.

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Speaker 6: I would imagine that the Tony Abbott and jd Vance

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Speaker 6: would have a lot in common. You know, have a

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Speaker 6: similar approach to conservative approach. They both understand that parties,

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Speaker 6: conservative parties need to focus on ordinary working people. You

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Speaker 6: know the Howard battlers, that Tony's trades as we used

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Speaker 6: to call them, and jd Vance has got his own

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Speaker 6: meeting of minds. But from all accounts, from what I hear,

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Speaker 6: jd Vance has been a very very important part of

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Speaker 5: Bartia, good to see you.

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Speaker 3: Firstly, I want to get your reaction to the latest

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Speaker 5: Bartia. I mean, look, we've seen this time and time again.

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Speaker 7: It's, of course horrible to see this spreading. It's horrible

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's a shyma how Leada's can't be doing the same. Now, look,

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Speaker 8: I'll take a million.

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Speaker 8: People calling me names and people hating me just to

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Speaker 5: But yeah, the Left have been up in arms about this.

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Speaker 3: They tried to make this a divisive issue over race.

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Speaker 7: Problem, absolutely, And what Daniel Penny said in that Fox

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Speaker 5: And what you.

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Speaker 7: Saw there was what the trial was actually about, which

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Speaker 7: is this was not about race, This was about masculinity.

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Speaker 7: Daniel Penny was a man who understood what that meant.

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Speaker 7: what the left tried to do was criminalize masculinity, right.

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Speaker 7: They tried to put him in prison for doing what

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Speaker 7: We will show this man that we respect what he did.

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Speaker 7: And honestly, I think that a lot of the criticism

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Speaker 3: And it's such a shame your spot on and I

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Speaker 5: Have a listen if we do.

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Speaker 10: Not want violence on our subways. And the point of

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Speaker 7: I mean, even full.

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Speaker 10: Who have engaged in nanslaughters or have taken a life

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Speaker 3: Oh, unbelievable, botty, How dangerous are these saults of comments?

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Speaker 7: Well, I think what they wanted was for the trial

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Speaker 7: They wanted other people to say, Wow, I'm really not

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Speaker 7: So they've had their intended impact, because of course, the

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Speaker 5: Now a crime.

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Speaker 7: And of course now we're having a meeting crisis right

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Speaker 5: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: It's a shame as well that it's gotten to this

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Speaker 5: Now, look, let's move on.

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Speaker 3: There's been a lot of debate around FBI Director Christopher Ray.

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Speaker 7: Honestly, Donald Trumps every right to appoint the cabinet that

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and they're always caught out in the end. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's just crazy. Now, look, let's talk about Biden pardoning.

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Speaker 5: And what does this all mean?

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Speaker 7: So the names that were floated in the Politico expose

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Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly. Look, I wouldn't put it past that the

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Speaker 5: Before we let you go.

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Speaker 3: This is a fascinating your report which looked at company

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Speaker 3: But yeah, here we go again, everyone get to go

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Speaker 7: It's so amazing. The United States has undergone a political

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Speaker 7: Sixty five percent of Americans who make more than five

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Speaker 7: MAGA movement, and that realignment you're going to keep seeing

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Speaker 3: M hmm all the time, Batia Unga Sagan, I love

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Speaker 3: your analysis.

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much for joining me my pleasure.

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Speaker 7: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 5: Still to come, Lefties losing it?

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Speaker 3: Plus Josh Hammer joins us to discuss Pat Coal Kamala's

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Speaker 3: outrighteous spending habits. Now it is time for lefties losing it,

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Speaker 3: starting with the Leader of the free world.

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Speaker 5: Should we do a welfare check on old Joe?

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Speaker 4: And you know, one of the things that's going on

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Speaker 4: here is they just turned off my I'm going to

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Speaker 4: go vote. I lost the electriciity here. Anyway. One of

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Speaker 4: the things we found is, you know, we invented to

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Speaker 4: semi the computer chip size of the tip of your

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Speaker 4: little finger.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, another public short circuit and public malfunction thanks

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Speaker 3: to a malfunctioning teleprompter.

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Speaker 5: To quote Donald Trump, I don't know what he said,

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Speaker 5: and I don't think he does either. Look, let's give

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Speaker 5: him the benefit of doubt. Let's see if he can

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Speaker 5: get back on track.

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Speaker 4: I can't name a single country in the world that

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Speaker 4: doesn't think. Put it this way. If we're not leading

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Speaker 4: the world, who does not a joke? I'm not being

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Speaker 4: wise guy. If we do not lead the world, what

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Speaker 4: nation leads the world? Who pulls Europe together? Who tries

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Speaker 4: to pull the Middle East together harder than any ocean?

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Speaker 4: What do we do in Africa? We the United States

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Speaker 4: lead the world?

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Speaker 3: A yes, welcome back, good to see that creepy the

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Speaker 3: predatory ASMI whisper, followed by the violent yelling welcome back,

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Speaker 3: good to have.

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Speaker 5: You back in the room. And look the cherry.

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Speaker 3: On top of that weird speech, here comes the final

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Speaker 3: public hallucination of the day.

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Speaker 4: Next month, my administration and a new administration will began.

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Speaker 4: Most economists degree the new administration is going to inherit

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Speaker 4: a fairly strong economy.

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Speaker 3: Ah yes, I mean most Americans, on the other hand,

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Speaker 3: are struggling more than ever. So never mind the cost

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Speaker 3: of living crisis, the cost of debt, grocery prices are sore,

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Speaker 3: and you know, all those fun and enjoyable things over.

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Speaker 5: The last four years.

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Speaker 3: But perhaps we'll just blame a short circuit again. Now

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Speaker 3: to this hysterical lunatic panelist over at CNN who fears

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Speaker 3: Trump deportation when.

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Speaker 5: They aren't even and a legal immigrant.

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Speaker 1: I might be deported because I'm a naturalized citizen. And

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Speaker 1: Stephen Miller, who is Donald Trump's cheap deputty for staff,

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Speaker 1: has said that they're going to embark I need denaturalization program,

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Speaker 1: so I could be deported, My citizenship could be taken away,

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Speaker 1: and my children could be deported because they have birthright citizenship.

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Speaker 1: So this is not what the country's voted for.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Really sure that that's how it's going to work, but

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Speaker 3: good to see the lunatics over at CNN continuing to

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Speaker 3: give these lefties voices to spread their misinformation.

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Speaker 5: It's terrific.

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Speaker 3: And also, never mind seventy four million Americans voted against

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Speaker 3: that liberal hysteria. Now, we wouldn't be a lefties without

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Speaker 3: the bitter banshees over at.

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Speaker 5: The View who are really struggling for content.

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Speaker 3: I mean, their constant Trump bashing is old, boring and tiresome.

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Speaker 5: And so Whoopee's new.

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Speaker 3: Target is Daniel Penny after he's acquittal, and the way

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Speaker 3: he's celebrated, he's legal.

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Speaker 9: Win.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that seeing them celebrating in a bar

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Speaker 5: made me comfortable, you know, I mean wielding guy. The

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Speaker 5: man is dead and maybe just you take the celebration home.

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Speaker 5: You don't do it outside. But that's just me. Don't

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Speaker 5: listen to anything I say, Well, we'll bee. We don't normally.

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Speaker 5: And glad you've finally done some self reflection. Good on you.

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Speaker 3: Good to see you've taken that feedback on boards.

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Speaker 5: And now we know. The Left love to claim they are.

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Speaker 3: The most tolerant of them all, and that tolerance knows

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Speaker 3: no bounds, but it apparently now extends to alleged murderers.

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Speaker 3: This time it's Luigi Mangioni, charged with the murder of

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Speaker 3: United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

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Speaker 11: Okay, so they've arrested our heart coss In. Turns out

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Speaker 11: his name's Luigi. He's twenty six years old. He's an

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Speaker 11: Ivy League grad, did his undergrad and masters at Penn

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Speaker 11: in computer science SMIT tape.

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Speaker 5: He's a little young from you, but Phoebe sounds like

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Speaker 5: a real catch, ladies.

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Speaker 3: And it's truly amazing how the Left tie themselves in

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Speaker 3: knots of hypocrisy over and over, perpetually outraged at everything.

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Speaker 5: But no, no, no, they don't wish violence. No violence.

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Speaker 9: Of course they caught the guy that killed the ux

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Speaker 9: ceo for such a professional hit. It's kind of weird

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Speaker 9: that the gunman didn't leave the US. The guy that

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Speaker 9: reported it was a McDonald's worker.

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Speaker 5: I would never advocate.

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Speaker 9: The violence on their page, right, it would be pretty

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Speaker 9: funny if we'd be out of him and then when

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Speaker 9: he went to the hospital, that if he was out

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Speaker 9: of network and had to pay a huge bill.

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Speaker 10: I think that would be funny.

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Speaker 3: As I said, the tolerance of the left knows no bounds.

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Speaker 5: It's so incredible.

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Speaker 3: They're even offering themselves up and making alleged murders all

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Speaker 3: cutesy wootsie.

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Speaker 12: This guy that did the assassination did it in a

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Speaker 12: really sexy way, to be honest, and.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be it's.

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Speaker 12: Going to be important, like the fact that he's hot

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Speaker 12: and that he had while he did this. The silencer

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Speaker 12: and the revolver has been described as like from mafios Vives,

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Speaker 12: which is cool.

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Speaker 5: He just happens to be stunning.

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Speaker 3: Cool, mafioso, sexy vibe with the assassins.

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Speaker 5: It's all fun and games on left, he's losing it.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now is Newsweek Senior editor at Large and

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Speaker 3: Article three Projects Senior Counsel, Josh Hammer.

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Speaker 5: Josh, good to see you.

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Speaker 3: I want to start by talking about Pete hag Seth,

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Speaker 3: of course, Trump's pick for Defense secretary.

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Speaker 5: Now he's been.

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Speaker 3: Accused of sexual assault and alcohol abuse, but Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: is sticking by him. You wrote an article for The

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Speaker 3: Daily Mail saying be warned, a secret Democrat plot to

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Speaker 3: sabotage Trump is already underway. The Pete hag Seth, which

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Speaker 3: hunt is just the beginning. Josh, why do you think

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Speaker 3: the Democrats fear Pete hegg Seth and the rest of

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump's picks.

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Speaker 2: Well, Pete Hegseth in particular, are they fear because he

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Speaker 2: is someone who is not business as usual at the Pentagon. Now,

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Speaker 2: you look a lot of people on the right here

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Speaker 2: in America don't like to criticize the Pentagon because you

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Speaker 2: don't want to be seen as in any way going

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Speaker 2: against the military. The reality is that the Depentagon, the Department,

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Speaker 2: the Department of Defense here has an incredible amount of fat.

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Speaker 2: There was just an incredible amount of woke excess in

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Speaker 2: the budget there. It is a very very expensive byzantine

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Speaker 2: labor and bureocracy that has a lot that should be

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Speaker 2: trimmed there. And Pete Hegseth is the kind of guy.

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Speaker 2: He's not a company man. He's not someone who came

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Speaker 2: up through the ranks of the Pentagon.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 2: He's a warrior. He's someone who's served in the wars

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Speaker 2: in Iraq and Afghanistan. At nine to eleven he was

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Speaker 2: awarded multiple Bronze Stars for a service there. He's someone

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Speaker 2: who's an actual viable threat to the defense contractors, to

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Speaker 2: the Boeings, to the north of Grummins of the world.

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Speaker 2: People like that there. So you know, if your livelihood

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Speaker 2: in Washington, d c. Depends upon access to the Pentagon,

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Speaker 2: upon access to arm shipments and things like that, there,

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Speaker 2: he's an actual threat to that. But what the Left,

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Speaker 2: what they've been doing when it comes to Hegseth Anika

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Speaker 2: is slimeball, gutter politics of the very most sordid worst

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Speaker 2: orb is the breck Havana playbook all over again. Back

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Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen, when Brett Kavanaugh was nominated to the

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Speaker 2: US Supreme Court, he said he was a serial gang rapist.

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Speaker 2: They threw out five thousand years of civilizational norms about

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Speaker 2: innocential proven guilty to doing the exact same thing.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: NBC News had this long article, completely unsourced, lots of

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Speaker 2: people anonymous. No one on the record is saying he's

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Speaker 2: an alcoholic, he's a this, he's that he has a

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Speaker 2: rape allegation in there. It is imperative that Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: not yield an inch. You cannot let these tactics succeed.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise they just won't stop. You gotta nip it in

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Speaker 2: the butt right now before he gets back in the

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Speaker 2: office in January twentieth.

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Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely, now is the time.

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Speaker 3: And I want to show you these very contrasting media

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Speaker 3: reports too, because this speaks volumes. Here you have a

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Speaker 3: news article from when Joe Biden awarded the Bronze Star

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Speaker 3: to an intelligence analyst. The Washington Post called it one

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Speaker 3: of the army's most prestigious awards, but when Pete Hegseth

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Speaker 3: earned two of them, the Post said, actually they're pretty common.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Josh, this bias reporting. It actually also denigrades

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Speaker 3: the entire military.

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Speaker 2: Totally. I mean, they're basically saying that anyone who is

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Speaker 2: a Republican, anyone who is vaguely politically right of center,

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Speaker 2: if you are awarded a bronze star. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: last I checked the majority of people serving in the military,

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Speaker 2: majority of veterans here in the US, I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 2: that they're Republicans, not Democrats. So you're, basically, as you said,

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Speaker 2: denigrating a majority of the United States military. You're by definition,

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Speaker 2: as a matter of sheer statistics, you are denigrating the

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Speaker 2: majority of those who have been awarded bronze stars, who

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Speaker 2: have been courageous in combat, who have tried to save

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Speaker 2: their fellow marines and soldiers and midshipmen and so forth.

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Speaker 10: There.

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Speaker 2: It's disgraceful, But you know, look the mainstream media. Every

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Speaker 2: time you think they can't go any lower here in America,

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Speaker 2: they find some new way to one up themselves and

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Speaker 2: go even lower scale. But ultimately the joke is on

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Speaker 2: them because of all the major institute in America, the

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Speaker 2: corporate media has I believe the these like second or

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Speaker 2: third or lowest approval rating of any institution. I think

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Speaker 2: Congress is number one most unpopular. The media is like

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Speaker 2: second or third their popularity according to gallop you. According

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Speaker 2: to all the major public pols here, their popularity is

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Speaker 2: the lowest it has ever been in modern recorded history.

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Speaker 2: So I guess we'll see what stunt they try to

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Speaker 2: pull next there. But you know, the band news for

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Speaker 2: them is I think Pete had to pen news that

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Speaker 2: he's going to get confirmed Nika.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, it's certainly shaping up that way. I'd be watching

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Speaker 3: that one closely. Now let's move on to this brainwashing

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Speaker 3: happening in schools. I was quite shocked to read that

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Speaker 3: a Pennsylvania school teacher told her first graders that boys

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Speaker 3: can be girls and parents can guess their kids gender wrong. Now,

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Speaker 3: a federal court has subsequently vindicated these parents, finding that

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Speaker 3: the school district violated the parents' constitutional rights by refusing

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Speaker 3: to give these families the right to opt their children

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Speaker 3: out of such lessons.

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Speaker 5: Josh Trump has been quite vocal about this. He wants

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Speaker 5: to stamp it out.

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Speaker 3: But what can he do to do that because this

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Speaker 3: is real woke nonsense that he's corrupting young kids.

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Speaker 2: So, first of all, the author of this out been

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Speaker 2: in the Wall Street Journal, Maxiden, good friend and a

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Speaker 2: frequent co author of my own. So I'm very happy

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Speaker 2: that he got this piece in the Wall Street Journal

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Speaker 2: and that we're talking about this this very important issue. Look,

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Speaker 2: transgenderism in America, Danika. It's like it's like an eighty

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Speaker 2: twenty issue. I mean, this is this is not a

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Speaker 2: fifty to fifty jumpall issue.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 2: This is not like a pro Second Amendment, pro gun

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Speaker 2: control fifty fifty swap. It's not a pro life, pro

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Speaker 2: abortion kind of thing there. Now, the American people are

659
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Speaker 2: overwhelmingly on this side that there are exactly two genders

660
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Speaker 2: and we know exactly what they are one because God

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Speaker 2: says so in the Bible too. Because we're not stupid

662
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Speaker 2: and we just see people, we can reasonably discern that

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Speaker 2: there is male and there is female, and that is

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Speaker 2: what exists, by the way, not just for human beings,

665
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Speaker 2: but for the entirety of the animal kingdom there. This

666
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Speaker 2: is an issue that Donald Trump, by the way, helped

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Speaker 2: win the actual presidential election on. It was that ad

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Speaker 2: that the true campaign ran, where they had Charlemagne, the

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Speaker 2: God of all people, saying, oh my god, what happened

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Speaker 2: to Kamala Harris? She came out in favor of taxpayer

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Speaker 2: subsize support from gender mutilation surgeries for wait illegal alien

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Speaker 2: inmates in prison. And apparently, according to Kamala Harris internal polling,

673
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Speaker 2: that single Adinika shifted to the national elector at two

674
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Speaker 2: point seven points, which makes one of the most successful

675
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Speaker 2: ads the entire modern history of American presidential politics. So

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Speaker 2: Trump actually won partially on this issue. I am very

677
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Speaker 2: optimistic about what he might be able to do in

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Speaker 2: office on it, again, not just from an executive order perspective,

679
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Speaker 2: but with Congress as well, because again, not a fifty

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Speaker 2: to fifty issue. This really is, I think an eighty

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Speaker 2: twenty issue right now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, look, that's interesting.

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Speaker 3: But you're right though, I mean, this is what Donald

684
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Speaker 3: Trump was indeed part of the reason why he was elected.

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Speaker 3: So I just think it's shocking, though, what's happening in schools. Now,

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Speaker 3: let's talk about Kamala Harris. I've got to say she

687
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Speaker 3: is the cash cow. It's been revealed she blew one

688
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Speaker 3: point five billion US dollars in just fifteen weeks. Josh,

689
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Speaker 3: how on earth did the campaign spend that much money

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Speaker 3: during the election.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea. I actually have no idea what

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Speaker 2: the answer is. I suspect that Kamala Harris's donors do

693
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Speaker 2: not know what the answer is too, but I suspect

694
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Speaker 2: that they're having a rather large size of buyer's remorse

695
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Speaker 2: at this particular point. You know, I saw, at least

696
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Speaker 2: at one point that they built her an impromptu podcast

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Speaker 2: set for the so called Call Your Daddy podcast. If

698
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Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, I think the cost of that impromptu

699
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Speaker 2: one time set was like one hundred thousand dollars. And

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Speaker 2: things are so bad for Kamala Harris that the host

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Speaker 2: of that podcast, of this very left wing podcast, to

702
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Speaker 2: Call Your Daddy podcast, actually said, oh wait, my permanent

703
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Speaker 2: set doesn't even cost one hundred thousand dollars. What the

704
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Speaker 2: heck are you doing there? So, I mean, I have

705
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Speaker 2: no idea who is controlling the purse strings with this

706
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Speaker 2: particular campaign, But this is going to go down as

707
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Speaker 2: one of the most profligate political campaigns in the entire

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Speaker 2: history of this country, which, by the way, is very

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Speaker 2: fitting because this current administration, the Bien Harris administration, in

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Speaker 2: which she has served as the nominal putative vice president,

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Speaker 2: also goes down history as one of the most profligate

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Speaker 2: administrations in American history.

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Speaker 3: Well, actually, I just want to play our viewers that

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Speaker 3: particular line from the host of Caller Daddy, because I

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Speaker 3: think it's important.

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Speaker 5: Here was what that host said, The Harris campaign spent

717
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Speaker 5: like one hundred thousand dollars I did about this. It's hilarious.

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Speaker 3: Build the studio not true to make it look like

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Speaker 3: it was the studio that you used in La.

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Speaker 13: My studio that is gorgeous in Los Angeles doesn't even

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Speaker 13: cost six figures. So I don't know how cardboard walls

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Speaker 13: could cost six figures.

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Speaker 1: But but do you think they did that?

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Speaker 5: I mean you should absolutely not. With love to them.

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Speaker 13: Oh my god, it was gorgeous, but like it wasn't

726
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Speaker 13: that nice. It wasn't like gorgeous marble.

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Speaker 5: Like, No, that was not six figures. You know, Judge.

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Speaker 3: What I find funny about this is that Caller Daddy

729
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Speaker 3: they thought, oh, well, we've got this huge coup. We've

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Speaker 3: we've got Carmela Harrison. Now she's lost, and now the

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Speaker 3: host is coming out slamming this decision to build a set.

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Speaker 3: I mean, no wonder voters could see right through Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 2: But the fact that she went on that show in

734
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Speaker 2: the first place is everything that you need to know

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Speaker 2: about why Kamala Harris lost as a candidate. You know,

736
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Speaker 2: she was not trying to reach the actual swing voter.

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Speaker 2: She was not trying to reach the factory workers in

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Speaker 2: Michigan or the people who are farmers who are tilling

739
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Speaker 2: the soil in a place like North Carolina or Georgia.

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Speaker 2: She's trying to reach this blue check social media echo chamber. It's, frankly,

741
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Speaker 2: the exact same reason that she didn't even make it

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Speaker 2: to the first in the nation Iowa caucus, is back

743
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Speaker 2: in the Democratic primary all the way back in twenty

744
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Speaker 2: twenty because she has been surrounded for basically her entire

745
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Speaker 2: political career, as far as I can tell, by this

746
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Speaker 2: ridiculous left wing echo chamber that is telling her to

747
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Speaker 2: go all in on all the intersectional identity politicises, go

748
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Speaker 2: all in on feminism, on transgenderism, on open borders, on

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Speaker 2: all these crazy things there. Otherwise, how can you possibly

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Speaker 2: think that it is a good idea to go on

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Speaker 2: this podcast or the episode that was on apparently before

752
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Speaker 2: her episode was about the art of a sexual act

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Speaker 2: that I will not name that of respect for the

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Speaker 2: viewers of this particular program, but that is the kind

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Speaker 2: of affair that is the kind of content, the R

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Speaker 2: rated content, we would say here in the States, that

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Speaker 2: is the kind of content that is on the call

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Speaker 2: her Daddy's show, and the fact that she thought it

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Speaker 2: would be a good idea for the sitting vice president

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Speaker 2: of the United States to go on that particular show.

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Speaker 2: It's ultimately insulting to the American people, which is why

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Speaker 2: it's why, frankly that we responded in the election that

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Speaker 2: the way we did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah goes on a sex podcast, thinks that she's going

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Speaker 3: to have great success.

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Speaker 5: Go figure. Unbelievable, Josh.

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Speaker 3: Now look, black Karmala Harris staffers have accused the campaign

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Speaker 3: leadership of mistreatment and outright racial discrimination. This was part

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Speaker 3: of an explosive article in The New York Times, which

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Speaker 3: also revealed that the campaign leadership dismissed concerns that the

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Speaker 3: Democrats were taking their base for granted. Josh, how do

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Speaker 3: you read this? I mean, did the Harris campaign completely

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Speaker 3: blow it?

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Speaker 2: Well, the blew it for multiple reasons. But you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, my takeaway from this election is that it

776
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Speaker 2: was not that Joe Biden was to blame for their loss.

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Speaker 2: It was not that Kamala Harris was to blame for

778
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Speaker 2: the loss. Rather, I think that the Democratic Party as

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Speaker 2: an institution is really what is to blame for the

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Speaker 2: fact that Democrats lost this election. And what I mean

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Speaker 2: by that is because, as we were just saying, they

782
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Speaker 2: put themselves in a position of their own volition, of

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Speaker 2: their own free will, where they became the party of

784
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Speaker 2: this very loud, very vocal, but ultimately tiny and statistically

785
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Speaker 2: insignificant portion of the broader American electorate. They bat themselves

786
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Speaker 2: into a corner because their consultants, the people on the campaigns,

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Speaker 2: they have all these stupid young millennials with their college

788
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Speaker 2: degrees and are saying, oh, all the all the all

789
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Speaker 2: the rage these days is that you can be a woman,

790
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Speaker 2: if you're a man, if you want to. All the

791
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: raids these days is compassion for illegal aliens. Don't don't

792
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Speaker 2: worry about the drugs, the fentanyl trapping in here. That

793
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: ultimately is why they lost. And again I have seen

794
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Speaker 2: no indication since the election, none that they have learned

795
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Speaker 2: any of the right lessons. Frankly, as someone who wishes

796
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Speaker 2: of nothing but the worst, so I'm pretty happy about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, completely a grand thing. We're all with you here

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Speaker 3: as well. Now I've got to say, Josh, this really

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Speaker 3: is the gift that keeps on giving, because have a

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Speaker 3: look at this snub that Joe and Jill Biden gave Carmela.

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Speaker 3: Have a look, Oh, Josh, they can't even look at it.

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Speaker 3: They can't even look. You can see that there's tension there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can cut the tension in that room with

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Speaker 2: a butter knife. Frankly, I mean, Joe Biden is clearly

805
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Speaker 2: still peeved. Actually blame him. And I don't think Joe

806
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: Biden's particularly good person. I think he's been bad person

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Speaker 2: actually for basically his entire political career, going back at

808
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Speaker 2: least as far as his tag team with Ted Kennedy

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Speaker 2: to bork Robert Borke during the nineteen eighty seven US

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court confirmation fight. But despite the fact that he's that,

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Speaker 2: he is not a good person. You know, what happened

812
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Speaker 2: to him in many ways was actually quite wrong because

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Speaker 2: he was coued by his own running man. He was

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Speaker 2: cooed by Kamala Harris. I mean, he was cooed by

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Speaker 2: the very person that he extended an olive branch to

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Speaker 2: and putting here on the tick in the first place

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Speaker 2: back in twenty By the way, It's not just Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 2: it's also Barack Obama, for whom Joe Biden was the

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Speaker 2: Vice President of the United States. Barack Obama along with

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Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi and then Kamala Harris as well, but really

821
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Speaker 2: Barack Obama probably above fall. I mean, he was the

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Speaker 2: number one ring leader here. So Joe Biden, I mean,

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Speaker 2: talk about someone who's been in politics for a half century,

824
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Speaker 2: literally could not be going out with more of a

825
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Speaker 2: whimper as opposed to a bank. Donald Trump's been in France,

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Speaker 2: He's been making the rounds, He's got the red carpet

827
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Speaker 2: treatment there. Do people even remember that Joe Biden is

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Speaker 2: technically the president of the United States?

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Speaker 5: From now?

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Speaker 2: Frankly, being here in America, we don't really hear much

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Speaker 2: about him. And again, he can't get out of office

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Speaker 2: soon enough. But already at this point, no one around

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Speaker 2: the world is treating him like he's the president.

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Speaker 5: He's almost the forgotten president. I've got to say, though.

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Speaker 3: January twenty can't come soon enough. From Josh Hammer, great

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Speaker 3: to have you on, thanks for joining me.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: Still to come, Jay Z, Beyonce and their daughter put.

839
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Speaker 3: On a unite in Front as he faces assault allegations.

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Speaker 3: Angela Mollard will join us with all the celebrity and

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Speaker 3: royal news next welcome back to the program. Joining me

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Speaker 3: now is News Corp columnist Angela Mollard. Angela great to

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Speaker 3: be with you, Thank you for joining me. Look, I

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Speaker 3: want to start with Jay.

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Speaker 5: Z because he has made quite.

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Speaker 3: A surprise appearance, a rare appearance at that with his

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Speaker 3: wife Beyonce and their daughter Blue Ivy carver A Kata

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Speaker 3: on the red carpet. This was for the Wilfussa premiere.

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Speaker 3: But this was only a couple of after allegations of

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Speaker 3: rape against him emerged. It's alleged he raped a thirteen

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Speaker 3: year old with P Diddy back in two thousand, acclaim

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Speaker 3: which he denies. Were you surprised that they put on

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Speaker 3: this United Front so soon after these allegations were revealed.

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Speaker 8: Very much so, because he knows that this will drive commentary. Look,

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Speaker 8: they have employed it damage limitation specialists and Beyonce and

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Speaker 8: he together are driving against this allegation really firmly. He's

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Speaker 8: made a number of statements, including that he was blackmailed

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Speaker 8: by the lawyer of this woman.

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Speaker 5: The lawyer, of.

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Speaker 8: Course came back and said, we didn't ask for a

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Speaker 8: cent of money, We just wanted some mediation around it.

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Speaker 8: But you have to remember that jac and Beyonce, they

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Speaker 8: are an empire. They are at the top of the

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Speaker 8: entertainment establishment in America. They are friends with the Obamas.

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Speaker 8: They of course have met Kofian and their former UN

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Speaker 8: Secretary General. They are at the top elite of American entertainment.

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Speaker 8: So for this to come out, this is a different

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Speaker 8: sort of you know, stratosphere of fame among the rap community.

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Speaker 8: I mean, we always know that the rap community, there's

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Speaker 8: the bad boys in it. And of course jay Z

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Speaker 8: came from Brooklyn where he was a small time crack dealer,

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Speaker 8: but he's regarded and sees himself very much as untouchable.

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Speaker 8: And now, of course this allegation is against him. He's

874
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Speaker 8: certainly coming at hard and fast. They made the comment

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Speaker 8: that they wanted to support their daughter at the event.

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Speaker 8: Of course, shef stars in this movie, but it seems

877
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Speaker 8: to be the optics on it.

878
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Speaker 5: Are so much greater them, just so much greater.

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Speaker 3: You're right, they are at the top of the empire

880
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Speaker 3: really when it comes to the entertainment world. So watching

881
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Speaker 3: this with great interest, that's for sure. Now, look, let's

882
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Speaker 3: move on to the royals. Donald Trump, He's made a

883
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Speaker 3: bit of a confession about a chat that he had

884
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Speaker 3: with Prince William when the pair met the other day,

885
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Speaker 3: and he said that the Prince confided in him about

886
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Speaker 3: King Charles and Princess Kate's ongoing health battles, of course,

887
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Speaker 3: a diagnosis with cancer. Now, he said, I asked him

888
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Speaker 3: about his wife, and he said she's doing well.

889
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Speaker 5: I asked him about his father, and his father is

890
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Speaker 5: fighting very hard. He loves his father, he loves his wife.

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00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 5: It's sad, Angela.

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Speaker 3: This seems to be the first time we've been given

893
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Speaker 3: a real glimpse as to how bad the situation is.

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Speaker 8: I think this is really significant what Trump's come out

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Speaker 8: and said. Look, we could say it could have had

896
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Speaker 8: some Trump top spenn. He loves a bit of top

897
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Speaker 8: spin on things, But I don't think he wants to

898
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Speaker 8: damage his reputation and relationship with the royal family, who

899
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Speaker 8: we know he adores by giving it any extra emphasis.

900
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Speaker 8: So I think that there's every likelihood that this has

901
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Speaker 8: been accurately reported, in which case, what it suggests to

902
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Speaker 8: me is that the King isn't particularly well. He could

903
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Speaker 8: be more sick than we think he could be fighting

904
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Speaker 8: this ongoing battle. Well, of course we know that Catherine's

905
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Speaker 8: cancer treatment has finished because she told us it has,

906
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Speaker 8: but there's been no indication that the King's cancer treatment

907
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Speaker 8: he has finished. So I think this is the very

908
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Speaker 8: first time we've got any kind of idea from anyone

909
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 8: of status that this might be a harder battle than

910
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Speaker 8: we first anticipated for the King.

911
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then notoriously private, we've never known anything about it,

912
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Speaker 3: so to hear this it is quite jarring. Now angler

913
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Speaker 3: a Queen Camilla's son, This is Tom Parker Bowls. He

914
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Speaker 3: will be attending his very first royal Christmas this year.

915
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Speaker 3: But meanwhile the King has excluded his own son Harry

916
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Speaker 3: and wife Meghan. So another year without Harry and Meghan.

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Speaker 5: No surprises. Oh look, it's interesting, isn't it.

918
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Speaker 8: We're five years after Megsid and everybody's looking at is

919
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Speaker 8: that has this worked? And on some levels it's worked.

920
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Speaker 8: They've got a bit more freedom, that sort of thing.

921
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Speaker 8: But he doesn't have a relationship with his father at

922
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Speaker 8: a time when his father is sick. He doesn't have

923
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Speaker 8: a relationship with his sister in law at a time

924
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Speaker 8: that she was sick. His children are now five and three.

925
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Speaker 8: This is the age that Harry will remember what it

926
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Speaker 8: was like to be around family. He of course doesn't

927
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Speaker 8: have extended family with Meghan because she doesn't talk to

928
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Speaker 8: half of her family, will most of them, So the

929
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Speaker 8: Royal family this will be as much as Harry and

930
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Speaker 8: Meghan try to sort of spend the diet on this

931
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Speaker 8: that they love their freedom and that you know, we

932
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Speaker 8: just saw that the last week. The fact is this

933
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Speaker 8: will be a time that concentrates his mind that he

934
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Speaker 8: is very much on the outer of the family. As

935
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Speaker 8: to the point about Tom Particker Bowles, I think this

936
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Speaker 8: very much suggests, as we were just talking about, that

937
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Speaker 8: the King's health could be worse than we think. The

938
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Speaker 8: fact that Tom has said he's going to Christmas. In

939
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Speaker 8: the past he's usually spent it with his sister Camilla's

940
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Speaker 8: sometimes in the afternoon, has driven from Sandringham down to

941
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Speaker 8: London to spend it with her children and children and grandchildren.

942
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Speaker 8: But this year she's made this plaintive approach to her

943
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Speaker 8: son saying please come for Christmas. Now, that suggests to

944
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Speaker 8: me there's a reason behind that. I want you here

945
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Speaker 8: this year. It could be that it's just been a

946
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Speaker 8: tricky year. She's of course just got over pneumonia, the

947
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Speaker 8: King's been sick. But it also might speak a lot

948
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Speaker 8: more to what might be going on behind the scenes

949
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Speaker 8: for this family and their need to make sure that

950
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Speaker 8: extended family are gathered together.

951
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Speaker 3: It sounds like she needs some support definitely. Now before

952
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Speaker 3: we let you go, Prince Harry is set to face

953
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Speaker 3: up to four days of questioning in UK's High This

954
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Speaker 3: is of course as part of his upcoming lawsuit against

955
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Speaker 3: the publisher of The Sun over allegations of unlawful information gathering.

956
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Speaker 5: How do you see this playing out now? Well, this

957
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Speaker 5: is down for four days.

958
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Speaker 8: When he went against Mirror Group the year before last,

959
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Speaker 8: that was only a day and a half of evidence,

960
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Speaker 8: so four days of evidence. Of course, he won the

961
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Speaker 8: case before this has become a course s let for him.

962
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Speaker 8: He is driving this through. He of course has the

963
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Speaker 8: Male Group newspapers in twenty twenty six, whereas you know

964
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Speaker 8: others have settled out of court. Harry is very much

965
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Speaker 8: pushing his vendetta against the press forward every time. Of course,

966
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Speaker 8: he was challenged on a lot of issues during the

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Speaker 8: Mirror group case, this one will be the same. And

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Speaker 8: as the judge said in the last case, this was

969
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Speaker 8: fraught with conflict. These cases, it was a hugely toxic battle.

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Speaker 5: So look, he likes it. He seems to want to

971
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Speaker 5: do it.

972
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Speaker 8: I can't see that it's giving him any peace. But

973
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Speaker 8: he has a cause to fight.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a lot of a battle to keep

975
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Speaker 3: going through the courts. This must be exhausting, but that's

976
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Speaker 3: what he wants to do. All those flights are the

977
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Speaker 3: costs of the flights, but not to see the family

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Speaker 3: of course.

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Speaker 5: Angela Molla'd good to be with you. Thank you so

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Speaker 5: much for joining me on the show this evening. Well

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Speaker 5: that's it for me. Up next is news Night. Good Night,