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Speaker 1: This podcast is recorded on gaddigal Land, Always was, always

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Speaker 1: will be Aboriginal Land. Hey chicks, I'm ol and I'm

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Speaker 1: and this is two broad Chicks, the show that shares

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Speaker 1: life lessons and ticks to make you rich in life.

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Speaker 1: And welcome back for another Fabby dab episode. Fabby Dabby Doo,

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Speaker 1: Shabby Debby Doo Babes, How are you?

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Speaker 2: What's the crack? What is the crack? We're getting to.

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Speaker 1: The end of the year.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready, Christmas is in the air, starting to feel festive.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. I put my Christmas tree up yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It is so fun. I made my boyfriend go down

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Speaker 2: to the garage and get it. Though, I was like,

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Speaker 2: watch your spy, despie. That's their job.

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Speaker 1: Enjoys anyone's job that's not me, But doesn't matter who

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Speaker 2: I don't want to get it. Same as taking down

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Speaker 2: the rubbish.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not not fine, not not fine, but my job.

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Speaker 2: I won't sack the dishwasher. I'll do all that shit.

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Speaker 2: We all have our exactly, but we've got a dilemma.

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Speaker 1: We've got multiple dilemmas, actually, but we have got the

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Speaker 1: bro Chicks hotline and we're going to be going through

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Speaker 1: your chicks dilemmas and giving you our two cents little advice.

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Speaker 2: We'll just reading them out and have a good gin wag.

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Speaker 1: But before we get into it, we talk about our

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Speaker 1: obsessions of the week.

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Speaker 2: So, sour, what are you obsessed with?

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Speaker 3: My obsession of the week is the Gladiator two movie.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, yes, yeah, so Alex and I were

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Speaker 1: lucky enough to transport.

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Speaker 2: It into another universe.

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Speaker 3: Into the Roman Empire.

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Speaker 2: Before Mescal.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, yeah, actually maybe, but yeah, so we

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Speaker 4: were lucky enough to get invited by Paramount to go

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Speaker 4: film in Sydney, and we're both huge fans of the

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Speaker 4: Gladiator movie, the original, and we actually watched it on

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Speaker 3: Europe, because when else would you watch it.

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Speaker 2: It's the most perfect timing. It's also a great plane

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so true, so really like and then it really

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Speaker 1: like puts you to sleep at the end.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to give away any spoilers because it

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Speaker 3: It's action packed, the cast is amazing, soundtrack is great.

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Speaker 3: But if you're a fan of like Game of Thrones

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Speaker 3: But I loved it and I can't wait to go

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Speaker 1: It kind of added like shock value that like we

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Speaker 2: Like, that's a good review in my book.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my obsession of the week is kind of boring,

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Speaker 2: But I am back on my shopping bullshit. I feel like.

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Speaker 1: This year I've been really really reserved in terms of

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Speaker 1: And you can never find anything, You're like, I hate

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Speaker 3: Work hard.

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Speaker 1: We have our Broke Chicks hotline phone where you chicks

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Speaker 1: text in your dilemmas and we read them live on

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Speaker 1: our first chick's dilemma. So I'm a twenty two year

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Speaker 1: And we last year, my younger cousin's best friend that

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Speaker 2: Pretty That's exactly what I was singing.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Stupid me didn't realize he was actually saying the truth,

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Speaker 2: Deep feelings for him too. Oh my god, Scandalo.

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Speaker 1: Eventually we started talking, and as time went on, I

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Speaker 1: A month went by without any communication, which made me

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Speaker 1: One day is when I were at a family event

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Speaker 1: But I don't think it'll happen because it's just too hard. However,

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Speaker 2: Not a crazy, wild.

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Speaker 2: That is so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: I know, like what you've said, it's like, you're not

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Speaker 2: But like you do, and like people might be weird.

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Speaker 1: I obviously don't know their family, but like surely people

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Speaker 2: Of even being like what no, yeah, issues.

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Speaker 3: But I think you don't know until you try. And

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Speaker 3: I just think that if he's been unwell and has

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Speaker 2: Please keep us updated.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that is yeah, Like she's like it

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Speaker 2: If you like someone, just fucking go with it. If

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Speaker 2: Almost Christmas in it. Being in love.

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Speaker 2: Please shoot your shot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah my god, Oh my gosh, and text us with

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Speaker 2: Yes. Hi girls. I have a dilemma for the advice

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Speaker 2: with the Cheeks segment. First of all, I really love

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Speaker 1: I love your positivity and how you level up in

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Speaker 2: I met my best friend last year. Let's call her Charlotte.

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Speaker 1: We've been pretty close ever since we met. Charlotte has

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Speaker 2: She's a great friend.

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Speaker 1: However, Charlotte has another best friend, and due to Charlotte

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Speaker 2: Just when I plan things with Charlotte, it.

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Speaker 1: Becomes obvious that they have had a discussion about it

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Speaker 2: Did she change up? Wasn't it Olivia? Wait? What wait?

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Speaker 2: Just when I plan things with Charlotte, it becomes obvious

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Speaker 3: Her real name is no, do You Reckon?

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Speaker 2: It reminds him in the office.

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Speaker 2: Ah. This is my that's really cute. This is my dilemma.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so many layers that Okay, first thing that like

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Speaker 2: Make that behavior. Okay. I just want to give you

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Speaker 3: It just seems very high schoolish, like she was saying, like,

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm mean, Like is she even getting anything

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Speaker 2: What would your advice be.

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Speaker 1: Should I put on my big girl pants and just

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Every time we do is I just want to like

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Speaker 3: Get the big girl pants on, Put them pants on. Girl.

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Speaker 2: It's not a reflection of you individually.

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Speaker 3: sounds like you were doing an amazing job. So don't

447
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Speaker 3: let this experience hold you back because you can't predict

448
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Speaker 3: whether or not you're going to go through a similar

449
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Speaker 3: experience in the future. But if you do and that

450
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Speaker 3: does happen again, you'll know I've been through this once before.

451
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Speaker 3: I survived it then and I can survive it again.

452
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Speaker 3: I think that definitely go for it.

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't be given this opportunity if you weren't capable

454
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Speaker 1: of it. I think it's so fair enough for people

455
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Speaker 1: to get nervous about new jobs or to have imposter

456
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Speaker 1: syndrome in those moments, because it's incredibly valid, Like you

457
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Speaker 1: are going to have self doubt, but there would be

458
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Speaker 1: nothing on your plate that you can't handle.

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Speaker 2: You have this opportunity because these people believed that you

460
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Speaker 2: can do it and you were the right person for it.

461
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Speaker 1: So if they believe in you, that should give you

462
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Speaker 1: at least a little bit of wind to put back

463
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Speaker 1: in your sales and then just take off and it'll

464
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Speaker 1: come with time. Like, I completely understand why your confidence

465
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Speaker 1: has taken a bit of a knock, but you can

466
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Speaker 1: knock it back into place too.

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Speaker 3: Confidence ebbs and flows. Fully, it isn't something that continues

468
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Speaker 3: to just like grow on a trajectory throughout your life.

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Speaker 2: Oh you know, gone it afterwards?

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Speaker 3: Scale Like, yeah, it often ebbs and flows. It's totally natural.

471
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Speaker 3: You also have fought so hard to be in this

472
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Speaker 3: male dominator industry and get where you are. It sounds

473
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Speaker 3: like you're really passionate and good at what you do.

474
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Speaker 2: I don't think that you'd have to.

475
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Speaker 3: Move into a different industry to try something new because

476
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Speaker 3: you have been made redundant once. If you'd lost your

477
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Speaker 3: passion for this industry and that was no longer motivating you,

478
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Speaker 3: then definitely look at switching lanes and do something that's

479
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Speaker 3: gonna inspire you and make you feel more confident. But

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Speaker 3: it doesn't sound like that. It sounds like you're a

481
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Speaker 3: bit scared, which is totally fair enough. I would be

482
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Speaker 3: scared to but remind yourself that you were good at

483
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Speaker 3: what you do. You fought really hard to be where

484
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Speaker 3: you are, and go for it.

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Speaker 1: What's the worst that can happen? Truly identify the worst

486
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Speaker 1: thing that could happen is the same thing, and you already,

487
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Speaker 1: as su said, made it through that that's.

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Speaker 2: The best thing. Is like what if? Looking splipping a

489
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Speaker 2: what if.

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Speaker 1: Into a positive rather than a negative, because it is

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Speaker 1: really really easy to be like, fuck, what if I

492
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Speaker 1: get made redundant again? What if I'm not good at it?

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Speaker 1: What if I'm not this? But it's like what if

494
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Speaker 1: you fucking sle what if you get promoted to a

495
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Speaker 1: CEO and board member?

496
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Speaker 2: Yeah? With high heaps of other chicks. Yeah.

497
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, hey chicks, I want your opinion on something

498
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Speaker 1: because I'm not sure if I'm the asshole.

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Speaker 2: Ohjucy.

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Speaker 1: About a year ago, I broke up with my ex

501
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Speaker 1: just because I wasn't having the same feelings.

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Speaker 2: Fun fact.

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Speaker 1: He actually broke up with me over Snapchat the night

504
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Speaker 1: before I was going to break up with him, because

505
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Speaker 1: someone spread word without my permission that I was going

506
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Speaker 1: to break up with him first.

507
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Speaker 2: Anyway, news got out.

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Speaker 1: That I did, and my mom was trying to make

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Speaker 1: me feel better by saying she would chuck out a

510
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Speaker 1: guitar case he gave me for my guitar that needed

511
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Speaker 1: to be fixed. Another fun fact, my mom doesn't choke,

512
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Speaker 1: So two days later, this guitar case was at Vinnie's,

513
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Speaker 1: which I didn't refuse.

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Speaker 2: I let her do it. I was very mad at

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Speaker 2: the time. I'm just a girl.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think anything of it after so when I

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Speaker 1: told a group of my friends a few weeks later,

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Speaker 1: they turned around and told my ex what happened. He

519
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Speaker 1: then started telling me to give it back to him

520
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Speaker 1: and started threatening me. He then started bad mouthing me

521
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Speaker 1: to everyone we knew and told me, I was a

522
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Speaker 1: shit person. Was I a dick for getting rid of it?

523
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Speaker 1: Or were my actions valid?

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Speaker 2: No? You give someone a gift, hy.

525
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Speaker 1: Tell it to Vinnie's and that's a sustainable practice.

526
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you donated it to Vinnie's for somebody else

527
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Speaker 3: to have. It's not like you he left a bunch

528
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Speaker 3: of stuff at your house and you burned it or

529
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Speaker 3: you know, threw it in the bin.

530
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

531
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Speaker 3: Like when you give somebody a gift, that is then

532
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Speaker 3: theirs to do with it what they will.

533
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

534
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Speaker 3: I think if he asked for it back and then

535
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Speaker 3: you gave it to Vinie's, that would be spiteful. But

536
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Speaker 3: it's not like you had any sort of exchange before this.

537
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Speaker 3: And didn't she say it was you?

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Speaker 1: Well, well it was a bad breakup and when they

539
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Speaker 1: broke up over snapchat and it just sounds like it

540
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Speaker 1: was messy. Yeah, Because what I was going to say

541
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Speaker 1: is you could be like, I don't want this, do

542
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Speaker 1: you want it back? But obviously when you've gone through

543
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: a messy breakup like that's not necessarily for like your brains,

544
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Speaker 1: yea through like people throw rings into the ocean and shit,

545
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Speaker 1: you know exactly, Yeah they do.

546
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's like, I don't know. Can't you just

547
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Speaker 2: go to videos?

548
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

549
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Speaker 3: And also I think that.

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Speaker 6: I don't think the reaction meets the the crime, as

551
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Speaker 6: if you were to say, like, sure, he gave you

552
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Speaker 6: something and you're like, I don't want this anymore because

553
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Speaker 6: you were mad. But it's the it's the bad mouthing

554
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Speaker 6: and ship after Also the friends going and telling him, that's.

555
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Speaker 3: The real crime in my book, because who told him

556
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Speaker 3: that you were going to break up with him? And

557
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Speaker 3: then who told him that you gave away his guitar?

558
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Speaker 2: Case? They give away their guitar. There's a mole in

559
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Speaker 2: the group, Yes.

560
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Speaker 4: Who is?

561
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Speaker 2: Do you know what you should do?

562
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Speaker 1: You should tell every single person a different story. You

563
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: should be like, yeah, I gave away this ring he

564
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: gave me, And then to another friend you'd be like,

565
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Speaker 1: I gave away this photo that he gave me. And

566
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: then you tell them all a different thing and then

567
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: you find out which lands with him, and then you

568
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: know who's the mole.

569
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you know who's the snitch.

570
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Speaker 1: I get people have like mutual friends, but like you

571
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Speaker 1: need to have friends that aren't gonna fucking snitch to

572
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Speaker 1: your X.

573
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and over something that's not even bad, Like I

574
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Speaker 3: just yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think he's more I think he's probably just more

576
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Speaker 1: heard about the breakup.

577
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Speaker 2: I didn't think you're an asshole for giving it to Phinney's.

578
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 3: No, you were passing it forward on something that you

579
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 3: no longer wanted to probably really.

580
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Speaker 2: Like that guitar case.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna lie into is. That's gonna be

582
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Speaker 1: really funny story. Yeah, you're probably gonna if you have kids,

583
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: you'll probably tell your kids that story.

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Speaker 2: And like, so you didn't even do it, your mom did. Yeah,

585
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: blame it on your mom, And.

586
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Speaker 3: Sounds like she was trying to look out for you,

587
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Speaker 3: Like just ridgi you of any reminder or negative energy

588
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Speaker 3: of that relationship that's no longer serving you.

589
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Speaker 2: So good for you, mum.

590
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Speaker 1: Who breaks up with someone over snapchat.

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Speaker 2: We're so for this.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to all the chicks who sent in their dilemmas

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Speaker 3: and submissions, we absolutely love to read them out, and

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Speaker 3: if you have a dilemma that you want us to

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Speaker 3: answer on the show, we'll put the details of the

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Speaker 3: chicks hotline in the show notes so that you can

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Speaker 3: text in or voice note in as well. Please voice

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Speaker 3: note and you know, of course we can keep the

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Speaker 3: details anonymous. Potentially we could put like a filter on

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Speaker 3: the voice or something if you want to hide your

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Speaker 3: identity even more. But we love hearing from.

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Speaker 1: Your chicks, so obviously we're trustworthy because we kept.

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Speaker 2: Names anonymous exactly.

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Speaker 1: All right, chicks, thank you so much for listening. We

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Speaker 1: absolutely love to be here. Big smooches, big kisses, and

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Speaker 1: thanks to m I k Maide for making this episode.

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Speaker 1: Two bro chicks happened.

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