Speaker 1: Apoge Production.
Speaker 2: I'm Mickie Fisher and welcome to the Village Crazy Lady.
Speaker 2: People are talking to me and they are not physically
Speaker 2: in this room, so just strap in for that.
Speaker 1: Can't call me.
Speaker 3: Crazy, so I said it first.
Speaker 2: Whoever's trying to come through, whatever messages need to come through.
Speaker 3: Like, just bring it on.
Speaker 1: Let's do it.
Speaker 2: Crazy Crazy Crazy, The Village Crazy Lady Podcast. Hello, Gordeous Legends,
Speaker 2: and welcome to another episode of the Village Crazy Lady
Speaker 2: this week. I mean, I'd call her a village crazy
Speaker 2: because I know her personally. She's one of my best
Speaker 2: friends and she's absolutely insane in the brain in.
Speaker 3: All the best ways possible.
Speaker 2: Especially if you know her personally, you know how much
Speaker 2: of a crazy head she is.
Speaker 3: But she is also the.
Speaker 2: Owner, creator, founder, director of very successful like cult Obsession Foraged.
Speaker 2: She's a nutritionist, renowned nutritionist, a mum of two boys,
Speaker 2: and just absolutely all around fucking fabulous human.
Speaker 3: I'm looking.
Speaker 2: I'm staring at Sheridan's face right now, Beautiful Sheridan Austin
Speaker 2: my Chezy Chezy Besich.
Speaker 1: Chas Cheryleryl Cheryl, and Beryl.
Speaker 3: Sharon Sharon. I just like Sharon Sharon, we just pre warning.
Speaker 2: Chares and I like will often start a conversation and
Speaker 2: then like it goes so weird, so fast.
Speaker 1: Little dry abs not do but we might do, you know,
Speaker 1: I actually read.
Speaker 3: I just like just anyway, I was always do. What
Speaker 3: we do is it's called riffing. I never knew what
Speaker 3: it was, you know how like we'll just start talking
Speaker 3: complete shit, yeah, and we'll.
Speaker 1: Just be like what my professional term for it?
Speaker 3: Literally I saw these videos on TikTok and I was like,
Speaker 3: is that what that's called?
Speaker 1: Well, we have a diagnoses.
Speaker 2: Literally we both just riff so hard into where like
Speaker 2: talking about something we're like, literally it's like a performance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Everyone's like, we don't know what the fuck you're
Speaker 3: talking about about?
Speaker 2: Now, Sheridan here share it is a professional riffer, and
Speaker 2: that's what we're here to talk about.
Speaker 1: Nutritionist, scats, practitioner and a riffer and a shit talker,
Speaker 1: which is why she's here.
Speaker 3: A performer.
Speaker 2: No, but the reason I got you on is one
Speaker 2: because I love you and I've been wanting to get
Speaker 2: you on for ages, but mostly like, obviously you are
Speaker 2: a nutritionist. I before we became friends, I think I've
Speaker 2: told this story before I basically stalked you. And that's like,
Speaker 2: you know, this is an inspiration for people. Never give
Speaker 2: up on your dreams.
Speaker 3: If you really like.
Speaker 2: That, if you stalk someone enough, you might end up
Speaker 2: becoming best friends with them, you know, just never say never.
Speaker 2: But no, I followed your because you worked for Cindeo Mirror,
Speaker 2: who I also really loved. I listened to all of
Speaker 2: her podcasts, read her books, and like, you know, because
Speaker 2: I was really interested in food myself. I was studying
Speaker 2: neutropathy for a while, they are and nutrition, and I
Speaker 2: was like, yes, this is my world.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 3: I'm obsessed.
Speaker 2: And then I'd followed everything that you did, had a
Speaker 2: baby again, still followed like a lot of your advice
Speaker 2: and and I've always loved your philosophy and I've always
Speaker 2: loved what you teach about food. And obviously now like
Speaker 2: I know, you're on a personal level, so I really understand,
Speaker 2: like it's in your fucking blood.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: It is in your paws, it's in your cells, it's
Speaker 2: in your hair, follicles, nail cumicles, your spit, your eggs.
Speaker 3: Your toes.
Speaker 1: Just how.
Speaker 2: Just how passionate you are about helping people, and I
Speaker 2: wanted to get you on today because obviously, you know,
Speaker 2: you talk heaps about nutrition and you've created Forage, which
Speaker 2: is like if you know, if anyone follows me, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with it. I've been taking it since your
Speaker 2: first ever batch. And I would love to talk about
Speaker 2: how we can get to know ourselves in a way
Speaker 2: because I think often we live in a world where
Speaker 2: food is overwhelming, and I think that was a big
Speaker 2: thing even for me, like, because you know, when you're
Speaker 2: looking for information, doesn't matter what you fucking there is
Speaker 2: always opposing views. Like you could be like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: you could read an article that's like, bananas are the
Speaker 2: best thing for you.
Speaker 3: You should literally you can.
Speaker 2: Eat a diet of only bananas, and then you'll like
Speaker 2: literally flick down two seconds, and there's another article that's like,
Speaker 2: bananas give you cancer basically, And so I think it's
Speaker 2: really fucking difficult for people. I feel like so many
Speaker 2: people are disconnected from their own bodies because they're so
Speaker 2: used to getting information outside of themselves. But the problem
Speaker 2: is all the information is very different. So like I
Speaker 2: want to talk about how we can connect and listen
Speaker 2: to our bodies and how we can like really simplify
Speaker 2: food and create a relationship with it where we don't
Speaker 2: hate it, because a lot of us have horrible relationships
Speaker 2: with food.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I also think like the labeling with food
Speaker 1: diets is also like such a problem and it creates
Speaker 1: this inability to listen to our body because we have
Speaker 1: this like cage around us. So for example, whether it
Speaker 1: be veganism, KINDIV or low FODMAP, what else is that
Speaker 1: low fat keto et cetera, etcetera, etcetera. So we place
Speaker 1: this label around ourselves. And I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: just my world, but I feel like maybe that's lessening slightly,
Speaker 1: but maybe it's not. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but even like, yeah, the calorie counting
Speaker 2: and like you know, it's it's deal so huge, huge,
Speaker 2: And so I.
Speaker 1: Guess for someone's perspective of where I came from. So
Speaker 1: my personal journey is that I had to work on
Speaker 1: my own health because I was suffering an enormous list
Speaker 1: of symptoms that I realized didn't need to become be
Speaker 1: a part of me forever. So I went on this
Speaker 1: healing journey for myself because I was suffering asthma, allergies,
Speaker 1: skin rashes, hormonal issues. I was like a walking, rattling
Speaker 1: pill machine already at twenty or nineteen at that point,
Speaker 1: like a little asthma puffers, constant antibiotics, riddled with infection
Speaker 1: inside it out so and extreme fatigue. So I imagine
Speaker 1: if I put myself in a box, which I so
Speaker 1: could have easily done so in one of those boxes,
Speaker 1: there would have been no healing that would have occurred. However,
Speaker 1: what I did for myself, thankfully, is go inward and
Speaker 1: really figure out what my body personally needs. Of course,
Speaker 1: there is always distraction and noise within every within everyone
Speaker 1: these days with Instagram, Google, et cetera. And yes, like
Speaker 1: don't eat this, don't eat that comes down to like
Speaker 1: pumpkin seeds, Like pumpkin seeds can have so many beautiful properties,
Speaker 1: but then someone might be like, no, don't eat those.
Speaker 1: They've got anti nutrients, they've got to inflame you, they're
Speaker 1: gonna bloat you there, blah la la da da, And
Speaker 1: it's just absolutely ridiculous. And I genuinely feel so empathetic
Speaker 1: for those people that are like in this brainwashing season
Speaker 1: of our.
Speaker 3: Lives, Like I don't like even eat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even know when this is actually going
Speaker 1: to end as well, because it's probably just going to
Speaker 1: get worse.
Speaker 2: But I think like there there are so many elements
Speaker 2: layers to it, and I think part of I mean,
Speaker 2: even a lot of my journey is like obviously I'm
Speaker 2: gluten intolerant. And I found out I was gluten intolerant
Speaker 2: before it was cool and trendy and before like doctors
Speaker 2: were sitting there going like, we've heard of this thing
Speaker 2: called Celiacs, which was with my mum who was sick
Speaker 2: for like forever, like always always, always, always, always, and well,
Speaker 2: like I had a million sinus surgeries, had a million
Speaker 2: like constantly had migrains every day. It was just very
Speaker 2: very sick human being. And then finally a doctor went, hey,
Speaker 2: they've started to find this thing. Hear about this thing
Speaker 2: called Celiac's disease, which me and this is like gluten
Speaker 2: free bread did not even exist. And then found out
Speaker 2: like basically a whole family, you know, have Celiacs or
Speaker 2: gluten intolerant. And I think because when I went off
Speaker 2: gluten as a teenager and I realized how significantly that
Speaker 2: changed my life, I think that sort of once you
Speaker 2: do actually find what your body does and doesn't agree with.
Speaker 2: And I've found also there are periods of my life
Speaker 2: where like, you know, my body doesn't want dairy and
Speaker 2: then others that it does, or like you know, like
Speaker 2: can tolerate different things, but you start to find this
Speaker 2: like empowerment.
Speaker 1: In yourself exactly. So there's I feel like there's this
Speaker 1: movement at the moment, and it might just be me. However,
Speaker 1: I feel like you're gravitating from the extremism of you know,
Speaker 1: all those diet labels and following something like you have
Speaker 1: to be following something in order to be looking after yourself.
Speaker 1: That's kind of like what the mindset was or is right. However,
Speaker 1: what we need to gravitate towards is what is my aim?
Speaker 1: What am I trying to help? And what literally makes
Speaker 1: me feel good and drown out that noise and think
Speaker 1: also literally or logistically, maybe not logistically, but there's a
Speaker 1: lot of foods that we have around us today that
Speaker 1: literally never existed. So this movement I feel like is creating, oh,
Speaker 1: eat everything in balance, like that is what we should
Speaker 1: be doing. This is like I'm speaking headlines here, not
Speaker 1: Sheridan like, so, yeah, eat everything in balance. Everyone is
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, heal yourself, but eat everything in balance.
Speaker 1: Heal your relationship with food and therefore eat everything in balance.
Speaker 1: But what that can mean for some people that are
Speaker 1: literally suffering debilitating problems every single day, it can be
Speaker 1: that they're actually going to get worse and worse and
Speaker 1: worse and worse slowly or quickly. And I'm not here
Speaker 1: to say like you must be following something strictly and
Speaker 1: it be stressful to do that to then feel health
Speaker 1: and happiness. It's not like that. It's like when you
Speaker 1: talk about what you want me to come in for,
Speaker 1: it's like feeling happy about your choices rather than like
Speaker 1: it's a doom decision to avoid a certain food because
Speaker 1: that doesn't make you feel good. So where I'm going
Speaker 1: with that is that we have altered specific foods in
Speaker 1: human food industry, which has created us reacting not positively.
Speaker 1: So for example, gluten, Like going back to that, it
Speaker 1: is such a huge thing because we altered the weak grain. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well it's so important because it's like eat everything in balance. However,
Speaker 1: of course you actually could still feel really shit eating
Speaker 1: everything in balance because that food, and I'll go back
Speaker 1: to the gluten thing, like, could be creating inflammation within
Speaker 1: your body that is lasting up to six months.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that exposure.
Speaker 1: But what has happened with the wheat grain? Because I
Speaker 1: feel like I actually don't talk about it enough these days.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, talk about the wheak grain. Here, this
Speaker 3: is your platform, right.
Speaker 1: So in the nineteen seventies, the wheat was chemically hybridized
Speaker 1: and it went from wheak grains called Triticum estivum or
Speaker 1: emma emma wheat or iron core sorry, hang on, emma
Speaker 1: wheat and iron coren to Triticum estimm It was turned
Speaker 1: into this new week grain called Triticum estidum, and that
Speaker 1: was done scientifically. You can't naturally do this process. It
Speaker 1: was chemically hybridized, which is not like genetically modification. Genetic modification, however,
Speaker 1: it's a way to think of it. The genetics are
Speaker 1: completely different, so it looks completely different, it acts completely different,
Speaker 1: it has completely different properties. They've got completely different chromosome counts.
Speaker 1: And the after say, however long it's been, it was
Speaker 1: probably about thirty or so years, we started to go, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: actually is this actually agreeing with human consumption. They never
Speaker 1: actually tested it on human consumption. And if you think
Speaker 1: about the time around the nineteen seventies, this was also
Speaker 1: around the time that the food pyramid was created. So
Speaker 1: then because this new wheak grain could be produced in
Speaker 1: enormous amounts, so that we got to the point of
Speaker 1: even doing like wheat dumps because they were just producing
Speaker 1: so much. So it did become this like I guess
Speaker 1: staple because it was so cheap, it was so available. However,
Speaker 1: what also happened in this movement is that we're not
Speaker 1: eating We're not only eating a wheat grain that is new,
Speaker 1: we're also not fermenting it anymore because the women are
Speaker 1: going into the workforce and we're too busy to be
Speaker 1: in the kitchen anymore. So we're now, you know, going
Speaker 1: too quick things. We're also going to microwaves and things
Speaker 1: that last a long time in the fridge and pantry.
Speaker 1: The kitchen is not an honor to be in anymore.
Speaker 1: It's now a bother And I completely get it, Like
Speaker 1: I'm a working bloody woman, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. And this is for men as well, like yeah.
Speaker 1: Because we need to like men also need to step
Speaker 1: up a little bit because women are really suffering.
Speaker 3: We're tired. We want to eat good food, but we're
Speaker 3: very sick.
Speaker 1: Of making exactly right, I'm tired.
Speaker 3: Say we want to work. We love working.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's the thing is that we have incredible capabilities. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we're so driven. However, we also are still holding
Speaker 1: onto this nurturing and loving side of ourselves where we
Speaker 1: do want to nourish our family and ourselves, I hope. Anyway,
Speaker 1: there's obviously some women that still don't know how much
Speaker 1: we actually need to nourish ourselves and nurture our family.
Speaker 1: We still really need to hold onto that piece because
Speaker 1: a lot of women are so caught up in Korea
Speaker 1: just not even prioritizing actually much at all. They might
Speaker 1: even just be prioritizing what clothes their kids are going
Speaker 1: to wear. You know, we need to put the focus
Speaker 1: and the priority back into our kitchen. Unfortunately, and then
Speaker 1: again this is for men, but share the loan, totally,
Speaker 1: educate your partner about it, and if they're not willing
Speaker 1: to go along the ride with you, just keep educating.
Speaker 1: Even so, going back to the gluten thing, so when
Speaker 1: we consume it, what can be happening in a lot
Speaker 1: of people. So a lot of people experiencing not only
Speaker 1: or have sellly Act disease, but we're also having gluten intolerance.
Speaker 1: Like you said, So there's sealy Act disease, but then
Speaker 1: there's gluten intolerance, which is like a huge umbrella of
Speaker 1: symptoms which might be headaches, anxiety, depression, migraines of core
Speaker 1: obviously digestive issues. It can even be depression. It can
Speaker 1: be of course the cause of thyroid diseases, which is
Speaker 1: so common especially with women.
Speaker 2: So ex Smart Smart allergy crisis allergies.
Speaker 3: Mine was like aching bones.
Speaker 1: Pain lead to is So that was your body communicating
Speaker 1: with you that you may have ended up with rheumatoid
Speaker 1: arthritis or something like that. Yeah, so if we don't
Speaker 1: listen to these things, it leads to more serious things.
Speaker 1: And look, I am about balance, like in the sense
Speaker 1: of I don't hibernate and not do anything. I really
Speaker 1: enjoy my life. I love going out for dinner, I
Speaker 1: love socializing. It's not about not doing anything and being
Speaker 1: lax here and there. However, I do have not negotiables
Speaker 1: because I know what agrees with me and I know
Speaker 1: what doesn't, and I also know what they've done in
Speaker 1: the food industry, so you know, everything and balance them
Speaker 1: really grinds my gears because it's like, well, actually, no,
Speaker 1: someone could get really ill or continue to decline, and
Speaker 1: often it's not actually knowing the repercussions of these things
Speaker 1: until even sometimes when we're in our sixties or seventies,
Speaker 1: when we really our body is like I am done.
Speaker 1: I am going to start screaming at you. Of course,
Speaker 1: this can come a lot earlier too with some people.
Speaker 1: So we have to provide compassion to those people that
Speaker 1: you know, really are on a healing journey. Don't make
Speaker 1: them feel like isolated or ashamed or sad about you know,
Speaker 1: the food that make them feel bloody great yeh.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's about creating this rather than feeling like sad
Speaker 1: about your decisions, more just being excited about it because
Speaker 1: it's going, oh my god, yah, I finally like can
Speaker 1: actually you know, start to feel good but also eat
Speaker 1: really yummy, delicious foods in the process and have the
Speaker 1: celebration around that. So my philosophy is listening to your
Speaker 1: culture and tradition but also your intuition, so we know
Speaker 1: if we're not feeling great, and so we need to
Speaker 1: listen to that.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Going back to the women thing and us feeling just
Speaker 1: so done, like so fatigued, just remember that that is
Speaker 1: your body communicating. So your body is constantly communicating, and
Speaker 1: we are often left depleted, particularly mums, in really essential
Speaker 1: nutrients that we need to actually function. It's not just
Speaker 1: like slapping your way protein in and meeting your thirty
Speaker 1: grams of bloody protein. That's a whole other thing. At
Speaker 1: the moment, it's really important protein. Yeah, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2: But when not.
Speaker 3: Not like half a cow?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well thirty grams of protein is like it's
Speaker 1: a really good steak size, for example, or it's like
Speaker 1: two to three eggs and some salmon or a little
Speaker 1: bit of bacon. Fabulous, right, Yeah, Anyway, this is really segueying.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm like, are we about to talk about cardival?
Speaker 1: No? But what I'm getting at with this is at
Speaker 1: the moment, I feel like women are smashed with the
Speaker 1: information about have thirty grams protein every single meal. Blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. That's great, cool, do that. But what we're
Speaker 1: doing is we're having a lot of people are surviving
Speaker 1: of protein powders. For example, Yeah, yep, yeah, pretty shitty
Speaker 1: forms of protein. I know, cottage cheese is a really
Speaker 1: big thing at the moment for getting high protein, which, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's great, it's got protein. However, humans need the actual
Speaker 1: really good protein sources because it's couple with all the
Speaker 1: other micronutrients around it and the minerals that we really
Speaker 1: need to function as human beings and be happy and
Speaker 1: not be like crazy in the brain, not be so
Speaker 1: fatigued that we just don't want to get up and
Speaker 1: so lacking drive. And then showing what mybilly is rumbling.
Speaker 3: I found that I'm ready for the lamb. Yeah, we're
Speaker 3: thinking about lamb.
Speaker 1: Literally, you might be able to hear that.
Speaker 3: If you hear our stomachs. It's because they're thinking about lamb, and.
Speaker 1: I'm just it's probably why I'm speaking about it right.
Speaker 2: Where like you really need as much protein from lamb
Speaker 2: as possible, speaking of.
Speaker 1: Which I'm going to go, so, yes, we need these
Speaker 1: particular micro nutrients in order to not feel the symptoms
Speaker 1: that a lot of people are talking about.
Speaker 2: Back to like the whole food because I remember, like
Speaker 2: you were speaking about synthetics one time, saying like it's
Speaker 2: like going and picking an orange off a tree and
Speaker 2: getting rid of like ninety eight percent of the orange
Speaker 2: and eating just that like two percent of the orange.
Speaker 2: But the reason that the orange is so good and
Speaker 2: because it has like the vitamin C or the I
Speaker 2: don't know what else about an orange hasn't it, But
Speaker 2: it's because it has all of those different nutrients and
Speaker 2: vitamins in perfect balance.
Speaker 3: And like that whole that was just like when you
Speaker 3: mentioned that, that just was like a being in my head.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was.
Speaker 3: And I know, like even you.
Speaker 2: Say this, there is such a time and place for
Speaker 2: you know, extra nutrients and vitamins and all that sort
Speaker 2: of thing, but I think people forget and like you
Speaker 2: were sort of talking about this as far as like
Speaker 2: when we speak about getting back in the kitchen, we're
Speaker 2: not saying that in a like get back in and
Speaker 2: make sandwiches kind of way. We're saying it in a
Speaker 2: like food is such a healer. And it's like I
Speaker 2: remember you even talking about this, right, like we all
Speaker 2: need food.
Speaker 3: We all eat food.
Speaker 2: It's something we've always done and we need to do
Speaker 2: to literally survive. And it can be a tool of
Speaker 2: like it can be a healing tool, or it can
Speaker 2: be like a hindrance tool, not a hindrance tool, but
Speaker 2: it can hurt us, like it can either hurt or
Speaker 2: it can heal. And I think for a lot of
Speaker 2: people it can be a really overwhelming thing to navigate
Speaker 2: understanding well, like what's right for me, what isn't good
Speaker 2: for me?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: Like you know, I see, this person's told me that
Speaker 2: this is the diet to do when it's been so
Speaker 2: great for them. This person's told me that they did
Speaker 2: this and it was so good for them. And this
Speaker 2: is why I find it even within my own journey,
Speaker 2: because I think I got really caught up in the
Speaker 2: like I felt stressed and felt really unworthy because I
Speaker 2: kept thinking like I'm not doing enough or like I'm
Speaker 2: not cutting out enough. And I did everything I did
Speaker 2: like raw vegan. I was vegan and vegetarian. I try
Speaker 2: every single trend I've had, Like you know, I had
Speaker 2: terrible relationship with food when I was younger, and and
Speaker 2: I just it was such a journey for me realizing
Speaker 2: that taking away the outside noise and the like you
Speaker 2: need to be if you want to be healthy, you
Speaker 2: have to if you want to be peak condition or
Speaker 2: peak this or peak that, or you're only worthy if
Speaker 2: and I went wonder what my body likes, you know,
Speaker 2: and I'd already like I was aware that, you know,
Speaker 2: obviously gluten doesn't agree with my body, and my symptoms
Speaker 2: are like not crazy obvious, which I think is really
Speaker 2: interesting because I think a lot of us, you know,
Speaker 2: have foods that maybe like our bodies just need a
Speaker 2: break from, or just need some healing from, or our
Speaker 2: bodies don't agree with it for whatever reason. Gluten is
Speaker 2: mine and like, you know, like my mood is mostly affected,
Speaker 2: which is a mad thing with gluten. It was the
Speaker 2: same with Chris. He went off gluten, and he was
Speaker 2: basically like he literally is like I'm a different person,
Speaker 2: Like he's a different human being because if I have gluten,
Speaker 2: I am the biggest cee you next Tuesday.
Speaker 3: It's like I care not deal.
Speaker 2: Like I will be like talking to people and I'll
Speaker 2: be like, I know I'm being a piece of shit.
Speaker 2: I know I'm being a giant fuck with but I
Speaker 2: literally can't deal. I have no capacity left, Like I'm
Speaker 2: watching me be a cunt and I can't do anything
Speaker 2: about it. I'm so sorry, but it's happening, and I
Speaker 2: can't even say the words I'm sorry because I don't.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm such an evil person right now.
Speaker 1: I probably won't know until tomorrow and when I reflect
Speaker 1: on this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, once the glutens left my body and like and
Speaker 2: I had, I really really struggled to concentrate. When I
Speaker 2: was younger, people used to they thought I had add
Speaker 2: because I couldn't focus and I could not find And
Speaker 2: then as soon as I went off gluten, I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, this is how people retain information normally.
Speaker 2: But for me, the biggest journey was falling in love
Speaker 2: with my body again and listening to my body because
Speaker 2: I think we're so what you were saying before, we're
Speaker 2: really disconnected from our bodies, and listening to what they
Speaker 2: like and what our bodies enjoy. And for me, it
Speaker 2: even started with like creating meals for myself, falling in
Speaker 2: love with food again in the way of like, I
Speaker 2: love cooking, and you don't need to like cooking, but
Speaker 2: it's just like the making it beautiful, spending time on
Speaker 2: yourself making food, or like having food with other people,
Speaker 2: or doing it in beautiful, enjoyable ways, trying different ways
Speaker 2: of you.
Speaker 1: Know, like I feel like the first step for someone
Speaker 1: that might feel like they're so not there is surrendering
Speaker 1: to the fact that hey, like just be okay about
Speaker 1: getting into that kitchen. Just first just be okay with it, yeah,
Speaker 1: and settle into it, make yourself comfortable in there, and
Speaker 1: then you can start to go all right, what do
Speaker 1: I really feel like? And I know that sounds so ridiculous,
Speaker 1: but like I never meal prep no, because it's going okay,
Speaker 1: So what are we going to feel like? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what is going on? What do we need to work
Speaker 1: on within our body that day, like as a family.
Speaker 1: So for example, we've recently had this cold flu that's
Speaker 1: been going around, so every single day it's about trying
Speaker 1: to work in the nourishment for the boys, for myself,
Speaker 1: for that, you know, to get those anti inflammatory herbs
Speaker 1: and but settling into the idea. I just can't imagine
Speaker 1: if I had listened to the noise out there that
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be eating meat that like, my body screams
Speaker 1: for it, and honestly, unfortunately not well kind of unfortunately
Speaker 1: for someone that might be listening to this, that might
Speaker 1: be vegan or vietarian, the thing is is your body
Speaker 1: is probably screaming out for it. But you're again in
Speaker 1: this cage and not really softening your view and allowing
Speaker 1: your body to just speak to you. So for example,
Speaker 1: it can depend on also who you're surrounded by, whether
Speaker 1: it be a good friend or whether it be particular
Speaker 1: people that you're following on social media, maybe the particular
Speaker 1: scientific articles that you've read that are so skewed, like
Speaker 1: so pushed in one way and often funded by the
Speaker 1: wrong industries. So for example, like you know, meet alternative industries,
Speaker 1: for example, funding these sorts of things where they're actually
Speaker 1: producing things made out of soy protein isolate or yeah,
Speaker 1: those sorts of things like meat patties that aren't actually
Speaker 1: meat patties, they're sweet paddies or like corned like and
Speaker 1: they're all genetically modified. And so your body is not
Speaker 1: calling out for that. Just really sit with yourself and
Speaker 1: actually really ask what it needs. So for example, I
Speaker 1: had a lady reach out and I knew what circle
Speaker 1: she was in friendship wise, and within this friendship actually
Speaker 1: I will just tell this story because I was kind
Speaker 1: of in this friendship circle ish. But I have always
Speaker 1: been the sort of person to follow what suits me
Speaker 1: in the sense of, like, you know, I'm a compassionate
Speaker 1: human and empathetic and giving and loving and whatever.
Speaker 3: Well I want to hope, so definitely are pressing.
Speaker 1: However, I don't follow trends. I do what I feel
Speaker 1: comfortable doing. I wear what I feel comfortable wearing, and
Speaker 1: that makes me feel good. I eat what I want
Speaker 1: to eat, and that makes me feel good. And with
Speaker 1: that has come a lot of judgment because I am
Speaker 1: staying in my lane about what I want to eat,
Speaker 1: and it's gone through different phases of being heavily judged
Speaker 1: of you won't eat this, drink this because it's got
Speaker 1: some sugar in it or something like that, and laughing
Speaker 1: at me, like in a group of people they're judging me,
Speaker 1: And was like, well, well, no, I won't because I
Speaker 1: know too much about how it will make me feel.
Speaker 1: Moving forward to a different phase in my life, so
Speaker 1: that was like younger, you know, when people just don't
Speaker 1: understand at all. Then moving forward into this circle where
Speaker 1: everyone is vegan or vegetarian or turning vegan and vegetarian.
Speaker 1: We used to do all lovely picnics and stuff together
Speaker 1: and it was really lovely, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: no one could bring meat, no one could bring anything
Speaker 1: like that. But what I did is I brought my
Speaker 1: path still. I was like, I'm not entering into this
Speaker 1: movement just because it suits someone else their philosophy. So
Speaker 1: I still brought what I know nourishes me and what
Speaker 1: feels good and what my body is asking for. When
Speaker 1: you actually listen to that, you will hear it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And I was no longer to those things up until recently.
Speaker 1: So time goes on, time goes on. I'm not really
Speaker 1: within that circle at this point, and I really don't mind.
Speaker 1: But a girl reached out to me within this circle
Speaker 1: and just kind of like felt like it was a
Speaker 1: comfortable space to talk about how her body is craving
Speaker 1: to venture out of a plant based diet. But she
Speaker 1: was like battling with her own mind, yeah, battling with
Speaker 1: her own body, going, I have these like cravings, but
Speaker 1: I really don't know if it's what I should be
Speaker 1: doing or can be doing. But I feel like this sometimes,
Speaker 1: like some meat sometimes, and I don't know what's right
Speaker 1: or wrong. And I just like stopped her on her
Speaker 1: tracks and was like, Darling, I understand why you're feeling
Speaker 1: like this due to other people's judgment and other people'shilosophies. However,
Speaker 1: please just know that this is permission to start listening
Speaker 1: to your own body and to venture into that. She
Speaker 1: is like full blown broth drinker, chicken souper eat and
Speaker 1: now like loves a slow restent. She literally voices message
Speaker 1: me wrying because I finally gave her that permission to
Speaker 1: listen to her own body.
Speaker 2: That to me, like just that that story one that
Speaker 2: was me as well, Like I was a vegetarian until
Speaker 2: I fell pregnant with my first daughter and like the
Speaker 2: mind fuck around going, but this is these are my rules,
Speaker 2: this is my identity, this is who I've always been,
Speaker 2: This is what I tell people I am. And like
Speaker 2: just even the battle with that is so she shut
Speaker 2: the noise up, and it's really like autonomy. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think we're so, And I like I screamed this all
Speaker 2: the time about how important it is to empower people
Speaker 2: in their autonomy because, as you said, you literally in
Speaker 2: those moments where you're showing up and you're not being
Speaker 2: invited anymore because you're being autonomous to yourself and you're
Speaker 2: not stopping anyone else from being in their autonomy, and
Speaker 2: you're not stopping anyone else from eating.
Speaker 1: No, like, celebrate everyone where they're at in their lifetime
Speaker 1: and their journey and what they're currently learning at the time.
Speaker 1: You do not know someone else's journey, so none of
Speaker 1: this comes with judgment whatsoever. No, however, don't let anyone
Speaker 1: else's journey sway you from being and consuming and wearing
Speaker 1: and doing exactly what you want. Obviously with being considerate
Speaker 1: within this same circle, it was hilarious. So for some reason,
Speaker 1: even if people would be eating meat when they go
Speaker 1: to these gatherings, they they still refuse to bring meat,
Speaker 1: even though they eat it in their own homes. But
Speaker 1: it's almost like silently, isn't it ridiculous? How I can
Speaker 1: see secret a secret but like still just a little
Speaker 1: bit maybe.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So when I was to go to something and I
Speaker 1: brought a lamb shoulder.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 3: I bought a whole baby lamb, Yes.
Speaker 1: Honestly, it was gone in about twenty seconds. Everyone swarmed
Speaker 1: to it and demolished it. It was literally like, not
Speaker 1: a not a thing left on the bone.
Speaker 2: I may have even brought to who knows, i'n't about
Speaker 2: to say I may have the bone. May have also
Speaker 2: been of people that contacted me after saying, oh, my gosh,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for that. Like, isn't that absolutely
Speaker 2: ridiculous that they need to wait for someone to provide
Speaker 2: that approval. Yeah, oh, it's just like and and so
Speaker 2: that's one person providing approval. I just feel so sorry
Speaker 2: for the people that are.
Speaker 1: Following so many different influences online segueing you into different
Speaker 1: ways of thinking when the answers are truly within yourself.
Speaker 1: And yes, I understand those people that are in the
Speaker 1: depths of maybe being unwell. You need a little bit
Speaker 1: of support and you can find that guiding light that
Speaker 1: you really need. However, it's just about not losing that intuition,
Speaker 1: not following a protocol that you have been told that
Speaker 1: he is going to heal you so religiously that it
Speaker 1: takes you away from that intuition because there is nothing
Speaker 1: more important than that. And I know it's really hard
Speaker 1: to describe intuition and like that driving force towards something
Speaker 1: that feels better or worse for you, But it just
Speaker 1: takes practice, really, And so for example, another example for
Speaker 1: I in my degree, I was at one stage really
Speaker 1: convinced to be localorie, to be low fat, that fat's
Speaker 1: a bad fats going to courts heart disease. So this
Speaker 1: was before I knew better, of course, and then I
Speaker 1: started to learn from someone else and I start and
Speaker 1: they opened my eyes into oh my gosh, it is
Speaker 1: all brainwashing. It is all based off money y theories
Speaker 1: and if you look at again, culture and tradition, which
Speaker 1: is my personally my biggest inspiration ever, and I feel
Speaker 1: like it should be everyone's. You know, no one avoided
Speaker 1: the fats. Can you imagine someone in a field that
Speaker 1: has an animal in front of them that they're going
Speaker 1: to cut off that fat shut your face, No they won't.
Speaker 1: They're going it eat that so good and really enjoy
Speaker 1: it and really be thankful for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And that is your body and your it is your brain,
Speaker 1: It is your gut talking, It is your microbes in
Speaker 1: your gut talking.
Speaker 2: Thanks you so much, Sches for coming in and chatting
Speaker 2: to me and sharing all of your knowledge with us.
Speaker 2: Thank you for creating Foraged. If you haven't tried Forage yet, honestly,
Speaker 2: like I've literally I think I was one of the
Speaker 2: first pieces people to even like leave a review, give
Speaker 2: a review, I said, Chares, you know I've been struggling
Speaker 2: with iron my whole fucking life. I'm pregnant, I should
Speaker 2: have no iron left in my body. But my doctors
Speaker 2: sitting there going your iron is great, like what are
Speaker 2: you doing? What are you taking? And I remember saying
Speaker 2: to my doctor, well, I've been taking this and it
Speaker 2: was like literally your first drive ever.
Speaker 3: Not your first jover, your first batch ever. And she
Speaker 3: was like, Oh, I'm gonna have to tell other women
Speaker 3: about this. This is so interesting. So Forage is amazing.
Speaker 3: You're amazing. I love you so much. How can people
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Speaker 2: Amazing, Thank you beautiful and everyone have a gorgeous week.
Speaker 3: Bye