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Speaker 1: Apoge Production.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mickie Fisher and welcome to the Village Crazy Lady.

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Speaker 2: People are talking to me and they are not physically

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Speaker 2: in this room, so just strap in for that.

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Speaker 1: Can't call me.

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Speaker 3: Crazy, so I said it first.

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Speaker 2: Whoever's trying to come through, whatever messages need to come through.

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Speaker 3: Like, just bring it on.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Crazy Crazy Crazy, The Village Crazy Lady Podcast. Hello, Gordeous Legends,

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Speaker 2: and welcome to another episode of the Village Crazy Lady

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Speaker 2: this week. I mean, I'd call her a village crazy

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Speaker 2: because I know her personally. She's one of my best

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Speaker 2: friends and she's absolutely insane in the brain in.

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Speaker 3: All the best ways possible.

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Speaker 2: Especially if you know her personally, you know how much

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Speaker 2: of a crazy head she is.

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Speaker 3: But she is also the.

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Speaker 2: Owner, creator, founder, director of very successful like cult Obsession Foraged.

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Speaker 2: She's a nutritionist, renowned nutritionist, a mum of two boys,

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Speaker 2: and just absolutely all around fucking fabulous human.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking.

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Speaker 2: I'm staring at Sheridan's face right now, Beautiful Sheridan Austin

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Speaker 2: my Chezy Chezy Besich.

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Speaker 1: Chas Cheryleryl Cheryl, and Beryl.

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Speaker 3: Sharon Sharon. I just like Sharon Sharon, we just pre warning.

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Speaker 2: Chares and I like will often start a conversation and

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Speaker 2: then like it goes so weird, so fast.

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Speaker 1: Little dry abs not do but we might do, you know,

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Speaker 1: I actually read.

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Speaker 3: I just like just anyway, I was always do. What

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Speaker 3: we do is it's called riffing. I never knew what

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Speaker 3: it was, you know how like we'll just start talking

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Speaker 3: complete shit, yeah, and we'll.

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Speaker 1: Just be like what my professional term for it?

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Speaker 3: Literally I saw these videos on TikTok and I was like,

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Speaker 3: is that what that's called?

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Speaker 1: Well, we have a diagnoses.

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Speaker 2: Literally we both just riff so hard into where like

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Speaker 2: talking about something we're like, literally it's like a performance.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Everyone's like, we don't know what the fuck you're

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Speaker 3: talking about about?

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Speaker 2: Now, Sheridan here share it is a professional riffer, and

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Speaker 2: that's what we're here to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Nutritionist, scats, practitioner and a riffer and a shit talker,

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Speaker 1: which is why she's here.

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Speaker 3: A performer.

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Speaker 2: No, but the reason I got you on is one

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Speaker 2: because I love you and I've been wanting to get

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Speaker 2: you on for ages, but mostly like, obviously you are

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Speaker 2: a nutritionist. I before we became friends, I think I've

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Speaker 2: told this story before I basically stalked you. And that's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, this is an inspiration for people. Never give

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Speaker 2: up on your dreams.

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Speaker 3: If you really like.

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Speaker 2: That, if you stalk someone enough, you might end up

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Speaker 2: becoming best friends with them, you know, just never say never.

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Speaker 2: But no, I followed your because you worked for Cindeo Mirror,

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Speaker 2: who I also really loved. I listened to all of

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Speaker 2: her podcasts, read her books, and like, you know, because

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Speaker 2: I was really interested in food myself. I was studying

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Speaker 2: neutropathy for a while, they are and nutrition, and I

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Speaker 2: was like, yes, this is my world.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 3: I'm obsessed.

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Speaker 2: And then I'd followed everything that you did, had a

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Speaker 2: baby again, still followed like a lot of your advice

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Speaker 2: and and I've always loved your philosophy and I've always

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Speaker 2: loved what you teach about food. And obviously now like

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Speaker 2: I know, you're on a personal level, so I really understand,

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Speaker 2: like it's in your fucking blood.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 2: It is in your paws, it's in your cells, it's

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Speaker 2: in your hair, follicles, nail cumicles, your spit, your eggs.

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Speaker 1: Just how.

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Speaker 2: Just how passionate you are about helping people, and I

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Speaker 2: wanted to get you on today because obviously, you know,

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Speaker 2: always opposing views. Like you could be like, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: literally flick down two seconds, and there's another article that's like,

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Speaker 2: really fucking difficult for people. I feel like so many

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Speaker 2: people are disconnected from their own bodies because they're so

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I also think like the labeling with food

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Speaker 1: this label around ourselves. And I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: just my world, but I feel like maybe that's lessening slightly,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but even like, yeah, the calorie counting

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Speaker 1: Guess for someone's perspective of where I came from. So

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Speaker 1: it's just absolutely ridiculous. And I genuinely feel so empathetic

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even know when this is actually going

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Speaker 2: But I think like there there are so many elements

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Speaker 2: gluten intolerant. And I found out I was gluten intolerant

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Speaker 2: like basically a whole family, you know, have Celiacs or

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Speaker 2: And I've found also there are periods of my life

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Speaker 1: In yourself exactly. So there's I feel like there's this

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Speaker 1: That's kind of like what the mindset was or is right. However,

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Speaker 1: also literally or logistically, maybe not logistically, but there's a

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Speaker 1: Sheridan like, so, yeah, eat everything in balance. Everyone is

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Speaker 1: But what that can mean for some people that are

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Speaker 1: literally suffering debilitating problems every single day, it can be

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Speaker 1: it be stressful to do that to then feel health

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Speaker 1: it's like feeling happy about your choices rather than like

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Speaker 1: with that is that we have altered specific foods in

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Speaker 1: human food industry, which has created us reacting not positively.

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Speaker 1: So for example, gluten, Like going back to that, it

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Speaker 1: is such a huge thing because we altered the weak grain. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well it's so important because it's like eat everything in balance. However,

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Speaker 1: of course you actually could still feel really shit eating

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Speaker 1: everything in balance because that food, and I'll go back

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Speaker 1: to the gluten thing, like, could be creating inflammation within

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Speaker 1: But what has happened with the wheat grain? Because I

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Speaker 1: feel like I actually don't talk about it enough these days.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, talk about the wheak grain. Here, this

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Speaker 3: is your platform, right.

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Speaker 1: So in the nineteen seventies, the wheat was chemically hybridized

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Speaker 1: and it went from wheak grains called Triticum estivum or

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Speaker 2: with my body again and listening to my body because

435
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Speaker 2: I think we're so what you were saying before, we're

436
00:25:14,001 --> 00:25:18,841
Speaker 2: really disconnected from our bodies, and listening to what they

437
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: like and what our bodies enjoy. And for me, it

438
00:25:21,681 --> 00:25:25,761
Speaker 2: even started with like creating meals for myself, falling in

439
00:25:25,961 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 2: love with food again in the way of like, I

440
00:25:28,561 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 2: love cooking, and you don't need to like cooking, but

441
00:25:31,521 --> 00:25:35,001
Speaker 2: it's just like the making it beautiful, spending time on

442
00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: yourself making food, or like having food with other people,

443
00:25:39,481 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: or doing it in beautiful, enjoyable ways, trying different ways

444
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Speaker 2: of you.

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Speaker 1: Know, like I feel like the first step for someone

446
00:25:47,201 --> 00:25:50,401
Speaker 1: that might feel like they're so not there is surrendering

447
00:25:50,481 --> 00:25:53,801
Speaker 1: to the fact that hey, like just be okay about

448
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,681
Speaker 1: getting into that kitchen. Just first just be okay with it, yeah,

449
00:25:58,001 --> 00:26:01,961
Speaker 1: and settle into it, make yourself comfortable in there, and

450
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,761
Speaker 1: then you can start to go all right, what do

451
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,201
Speaker 1: I really feel like? And I know that sounds so ridiculous,

452
00:26:08,321 --> 00:26:14,001
Speaker 1: but like I never meal prep no, because it's going okay,

453
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: So what are we going to feel like? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

454
00:26:16,681 --> 00:26:19,161
Speaker 1: what is going on? What do we need to work

455
00:26:19,241 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 1: on within our body that day, like as a family.

456
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:27,921
Speaker 1: So for example, we've recently had this cold flu that's

457
00:26:28,001 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: been going around, so every single day it's about trying

458
00:26:32,481 --> 00:26:36,321
Speaker 1: to work in the nourishment for the boys, for myself,

459
00:26:36,521 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: for that, you know, to get those anti inflammatory herbs

460
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:44,001
Speaker 1: and but settling into the idea. I just can't imagine

461
00:26:44,481 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: if I had listened to the noise out there that

462
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,481
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be eating meat that like, my body screams

463
00:26:52,521 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: for it, and honestly, unfortunately not well kind of unfortunately

464
00:26:56,761 --> 00:26:58,801
Speaker 1: for someone that might be listening to this, that might

465
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Speaker 1: be vegan or vietarian, the thing is is your body

466
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,281
Speaker 1: is probably screaming out for it. But you're again in

467
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:12,001
Speaker 1: this cage and not really softening your view and allowing

468
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,801
Speaker 1: your body to just speak to you. So for example,

469
00:27:15,521 --> 00:27:20,001
Speaker 1: it can depend on also who you're surrounded by, whether

470
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,121
Speaker 1: it be a good friend or whether it be particular

471
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,241
Speaker 1: people that you're following on social media, maybe the particular

472
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: scientific articles that you've read that are so skewed, like

473
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 1: so pushed in one way and often funded by the

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00:27:36,001 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: wrong industries. So for example, like you know, meet alternative industries,

475
00:27:43,201 --> 00:27:47,041
Speaker 1: for example, funding these sorts of things where they're actually

476
00:27:47,281 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: producing things made out of soy protein isolate or yeah,

477
00:27:52,241 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: those sorts of things like meat patties that aren't actually

478
00:27:54,441 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: meat patties, they're sweet paddies or like corned like and

479
00:27:58,481 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: they're all genetically modified. And so your body is not

480
00:28:02,281 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: calling out for that. Just really sit with yourself and

481
00:28:06,001 --> 00:28:08,761
Speaker 1: actually really ask what it needs. So for example, I

482
00:28:08,961 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: had a lady reach out and I knew what circle

483
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:15,801
Speaker 1: she was in friendship wise, and within this friendship actually

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Speaker 1: I will just tell this story because I was kind

485
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:23,321
Speaker 1: of in this friendship circle ish. But I have always

486
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,001
Speaker 1: been the sort of person to follow what suits me

487
00:28:27,241 --> 00:28:29,441
Speaker 1: in the sense of, like, you know, I'm a compassionate

488
00:28:29,561 --> 00:28:32,161
Speaker 1: human and empathetic and giving and loving and whatever.

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Speaker 3: Well I want to hope, so definitely are pressing.

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Speaker 1: However, I don't follow trends. I do what I feel

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00:28:43,761 --> 00:28:47,401
Speaker 1: comfortable doing. I wear what I feel comfortable wearing, and

492
00:28:47,521 --> 00:28:51,001
Speaker 1: that makes me feel good. I eat what I want

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00:28:51,041 --> 00:28:53,561
Speaker 1: to eat, and that makes me feel good. And with

494
00:28:53,801 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: that has come a lot of judgment because I am

495
00:28:56,801 --> 00:28:59,081
Speaker 1: staying in my lane about what I want to eat,

496
00:28:59,481 --> 00:29:03,361
Speaker 1: and it's gone through different phases of being heavily judged

497
00:29:03,561 --> 00:29:07,241
Speaker 1: of you won't eat this, drink this because it's got

498
00:29:07,321 --> 00:29:09,041
Speaker 1: some sugar in it or something like that, and laughing

499
00:29:09,081 --> 00:29:12,521
Speaker 1: at me, like in a group of people they're judging me,

500
00:29:12,921 --> 00:29:14,841
Speaker 1: And was like, well, well, no, I won't because I

501
00:29:14,921 --> 00:29:16,801
Speaker 1: know too much about how it will make me feel.

502
00:29:17,641 --> 00:29:19,841
Speaker 1: Moving forward to a different phase in my life, so

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00:29:19,921 --> 00:29:21,841
Speaker 1: that was like younger, you know, when people just don't

504
00:29:22,161 --> 00:29:26,001
Speaker 1: understand at all. Then moving forward into this circle where

505
00:29:26,921 --> 00:29:31,361
Speaker 1: everyone is vegan or vegetarian or turning vegan and vegetarian.

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00:29:31,481 --> 00:29:34,561
Speaker 1: We used to do all lovely picnics and stuff together

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00:29:34,681 --> 00:29:37,401
Speaker 1: and it was really lovely, and then all of a sudden,

508
00:29:37,641 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: no one could bring meat, no one could bring anything

509
00:29:41,561 --> 00:29:44,321
Speaker 1: like that. But what I did is I brought my

510
00:29:44,521 --> 00:29:49,241
Speaker 1: path still. I was like, I'm not entering into this

511
00:29:49,561 --> 00:29:55,601
Speaker 1: movement just because it suits someone else their philosophy. So

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00:29:56,121 --> 00:29:59,321
Speaker 1: I still brought what I know nourishes me and what

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00:29:59,721 --> 00:30:04,161
Speaker 1: feels good and what my body is asking for. When

514
00:30:04,241 --> 00:30:06,681
Speaker 1: you actually listen to that, you will hear it.

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00:30:06,961 --> 00:30:07,601
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

516
00:30:08,001 --> 00:30:14,041
Speaker 1: And I was no longer to those things up until recently.

517
00:30:14,641 --> 00:30:18,161
Speaker 1: So time goes on, time goes on. I'm not really

518
00:30:18,241 --> 00:30:21,841
Speaker 1: within that circle at this point, and I really don't mind.

519
00:30:22,281 --> 00:30:25,761
Speaker 1: But a girl reached out to me within this circle

520
00:30:26,121 --> 00:30:28,761
Speaker 1: and just kind of like felt like it was a

521
00:30:28,801 --> 00:30:31,881
Speaker 1: comfortable space to talk about how her body is craving

522
00:30:32,401 --> 00:30:35,721
Speaker 1: to venture out of a plant based diet. But she

523
00:30:36,681 --> 00:30:39,521
Speaker 1: was like battling with her own mind, yeah, battling with

524
00:30:39,641 --> 00:30:43,801
Speaker 1: her own body, going, I have these like cravings, but

525
00:30:43,961 --> 00:30:46,401
Speaker 1: I really don't know if it's what I should be

526
00:30:46,561 --> 00:30:52,121
Speaker 1: doing or can be doing. But I feel like this sometimes,

527
00:30:52,481 --> 00:30:55,161
Speaker 1: like some meat sometimes, and I don't know what's right

528
00:30:55,321 --> 00:30:58,161
Speaker 1: or wrong. And I just like stopped her on her

529
00:30:58,201 --> 00:31:02,321
Speaker 1: tracks and was like, Darling, I understand why you're feeling

530
00:31:02,401 --> 00:31:06,281
Speaker 1: like this due to other people's judgment and other people'shilosophies. However,

531
00:31:06,561 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: please just know that this is permission to start listening

532
00:31:09,761 --> 00:31:12,721
Speaker 1: to your own body and to venture into that. She

533
00:31:13,001 --> 00:31:17,561
Speaker 1: is like full blown broth drinker, chicken souper eat and

534
00:31:17,641 --> 00:31:21,801
Speaker 1: now like loves a slow restent. She literally voices message

535
00:31:21,841 --> 00:31:26,361
Speaker 1: me wrying because I finally gave her that permission to

536
00:31:26,561 --> 00:31:27,681
Speaker 1: listen to her own body.

537
00:31:28,641 --> 00:31:32,161
Speaker 2: That to me, like just that that story one that

538
00:31:32,321 --> 00:31:34,841
Speaker 2: was me as well, Like I was a vegetarian until

539
00:31:34,881 --> 00:31:37,841
Speaker 2: I fell pregnant with my first daughter and like the

540
00:31:38,521 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 2: mind fuck around going, but this is these are my rules,

541
00:31:42,641 --> 00:31:44,641
Speaker 2: this is my identity, this is who I've always been,

542
00:31:44,721 --> 00:31:46,961
Speaker 2: This is what I tell people I am. And like

543
00:31:47,281 --> 00:31:50,521
Speaker 2: just even the battle with that is so she shut

544
00:31:50,761 --> 00:31:55,081
Speaker 2: the noise up, and it's really like autonomy. Yeah, I

545
00:31:55,201 --> 00:31:58,081
Speaker 2: think we're so, And I like I screamed this all

546
00:31:58,121 --> 00:32:00,721
Speaker 2: the time about how important it is to empower people

547
00:32:00,801 --> 00:32:03,881
Speaker 2: in their autonomy because, as you said, you literally in

548
00:32:04,001 --> 00:32:07,761
Speaker 2: those moments where you're showing up and you're not being

549
00:32:07,801 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: invited anymore because you're being autonomous to yourself and you're

550
00:32:11,041 --> 00:32:13,361
Speaker 2: not stopping anyone else from being in their autonomy, and

551
00:32:13,401 --> 00:32:15,161
Speaker 2: you're not stopping anyone else from eating.

552
00:32:15,321 --> 00:32:19,081
Speaker 1: No, like, celebrate everyone where they're at in their lifetime

553
00:32:19,161 --> 00:32:22,441
Speaker 1: and their journey and what they're currently learning at the time.

554
00:32:22,521 --> 00:32:24,681
Speaker 1: You do not know someone else's journey, so none of

555
00:32:24,761 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: this comes with judgment whatsoever. No, however, don't let anyone

556
00:32:30,041 --> 00:32:36,521
Speaker 1: else's journey sway you from being and consuming and wearing

557
00:32:37,281 --> 00:32:42,001
Speaker 1: and doing exactly what you want. Obviously with being considerate

558
00:32:42,681 --> 00:32:46,521
Speaker 1: within this same circle, it was hilarious. So for some reason,

559
00:32:46,641 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: even if people would be eating meat when they go

560
00:32:49,321 --> 00:32:53,201
Speaker 1: to these gatherings, they they still refuse to bring meat,

561
00:32:53,241 --> 00:32:54,841
Speaker 1: even though they eat it in their own homes. But

562
00:32:54,921 --> 00:32:58,041
Speaker 1: it's almost like silently, isn't it ridiculous? How I can

563
00:32:58,121 --> 00:33:01,641
Speaker 1: see secret a secret but like still just a little

564
00:33:01,681 --> 00:33:02,161
Speaker 1: bit maybe.

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00:33:02,561 --> 00:33:02,761
Speaker 3: Yeah.

566
00:33:03,201 --> 00:33:06,361
Speaker 1: So when I was to go to something and I

567
00:33:06,441 --> 00:33:07,681
Speaker 1: brought a lamb shoulder.

568
00:33:08,121 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: And.

569
00:33:09,841 --> 00:33:11,841
Speaker 3: I bought a whole baby lamb, Yes.

570
00:33:12,361 --> 00:33:17,641
Speaker 1: Honestly, it was gone in about twenty seconds. Everyone swarmed

571
00:33:18,121 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: to it and demolished it. It was literally like, not

572
00:33:22,601 --> 00:33:24,961
Speaker 1: a not a thing left on the bone.

573
00:33:26,121 --> 00:33:28,881
Speaker 2: I may have even brought to who knows, i'n't about

574
00:33:28,881 --> 00:33:30,801
Speaker 2: to say I may have the bone. May have also

575
00:33:30,921 --> 00:33:34,881
Speaker 2: been of people that contacted me after saying, oh, my gosh,

576
00:33:35,001 --> 00:33:37,921
Speaker 2: thank you so much for that. Like, isn't that absolutely

577
00:33:38,041 --> 00:33:42,521
Speaker 2: ridiculous that they need to wait for someone to provide

578
00:33:42,561 --> 00:33:46,361
Speaker 2: that approval. Yeah, oh, it's just like and and so

579
00:33:46,521 --> 00:33:49,841
Speaker 2: that's one person providing approval. I just feel so sorry

580
00:33:49,921 --> 00:33:50,961
Speaker 2: for the people that are.

581
00:33:51,361 --> 00:33:57,921
Speaker 1: Following so many different influences online segueing you into different

582
00:33:58,041 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: ways of thinking when the answers are truly within yourself.

583
00:34:01,241 --> 00:34:03,761
Speaker 1: And yes, I understand those people that are in the

584
00:34:03,881 --> 00:34:07,321
Speaker 1: depths of maybe being unwell. You need a little bit

585
00:34:07,361 --> 00:34:09,841
Speaker 1: of support and you can find that guiding light that

586
00:34:10,001 --> 00:34:15,161
Speaker 1: you really need. However, it's just about not losing that intuition,

587
00:34:15,441 --> 00:34:18,881
Speaker 1: not following a protocol that you have been told that

588
00:34:19,001 --> 00:34:23,321
Speaker 1: he is going to heal you so religiously that it

589
00:34:23,521 --> 00:34:26,481
Speaker 1: takes you away from that intuition because there is nothing

590
00:34:27,001 --> 00:34:30,081
Speaker 1: more important than that. And I know it's really hard

591
00:34:30,161 --> 00:34:35,801
Speaker 1: to describe intuition and like that driving force towards something

592
00:34:35,921 --> 00:34:39,961
Speaker 1: that feels better or worse for you, But it just

593
00:34:40,641 --> 00:34:45,561
Speaker 1: takes practice, really, And so for example, another example for

594
00:34:46,681 --> 00:34:50,321
Speaker 1: I in my degree, I was at one stage really

595
00:34:50,441 --> 00:34:54,361
Speaker 1: convinced to be localorie, to be low fat, that fat's

596
00:34:54,361 --> 00:34:57,321
Speaker 1: a bad fats going to courts heart disease. So this

597
00:34:57,561 --> 00:34:59,641
Speaker 1: was before I knew better, of course, and then I

598
00:35:00,281 --> 00:35:04,201
Speaker 1: started to learn from someone else and I start and

599
00:35:04,521 --> 00:35:07,641
Speaker 1: they opened my eyes into oh my gosh, it is

600
00:35:07,721 --> 00:35:12,401
Speaker 1: all brainwashing. It is all based off money y theories

601
00:35:13,201 --> 00:35:17,281
Speaker 1: and if you look at again, culture and tradition, which

602
00:35:17,361 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: is my personally my biggest inspiration ever, and I feel

603
00:35:21,481 --> 00:35:25,801
Speaker 1: like it should be everyone's. You know, no one avoided

604
00:35:25,841 --> 00:35:30,681
Speaker 1: the fats. Can you imagine someone in a field that

605
00:35:30,881 --> 00:35:33,681
Speaker 1: has an animal in front of them that they're going

606
00:35:33,721 --> 00:35:37,641
Speaker 1: to cut off that fat shut your face, No they won't.

607
00:35:38,041 --> 00:35:41,641
Speaker 1: They're going it eat that so good and really enjoy

608
00:35:41,721 --> 00:35:44,801
Speaker 1: it and really be thankful for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

609
00:35:45,441 --> 00:35:48,481
Speaker 1: And that is your body and your it is your brain,

610
00:35:48,841 --> 00:35:51,881
Speaker 1: It is your gut talking, It is your microbes in

611
00:35:51,961 --> 00:35:52,721
Speaker 1: your gut talking.

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00:35:53,041 --> 00:35:55,441
Speaker 2: Thanks you so much, Sches for coming in and chatting

613
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Speaker 2: to me and sharing all of your knowledge with us.

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00:35:57,961 --> 00:36:02,401
Speaker 2: Thank you for creating Foraged. If you haven't tried Forage yet, honestly,

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Speaker 2: like I've literally I think I was one of the

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Speaker 2: first pieces people to even like leave a review, give

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Speaker 2: a review, I said, Chares, you know I've been struggling

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Speaker 2: with iron my whole fucking life. I'm pregnant, I should

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Speaker 2: have no iron left in my body. But my doctors

620
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Speaker 2: sitting there going your iron is great, like what are

621
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Speaker 2: you doing? What are you taking? And I remember saying

622
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Speaker 2: to my doctor, well, I've been taking this and it

623
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Speaker 3: Not your first jover, your first batch ever. And she

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Speaker 3: was like, Oh, I'm gonna have to tell other women

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Speaker 3: about this. This is so interesting. So Forage is amazing.

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Speaker 3: You're amazing. I love you so much. How can people

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Speaker 3: find you? On Instagram?

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Speaker 1: So sherid enjoy Austin is where I share personal things

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Speaker 1: we share more information there.

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Speaker 2: Amazing, Thank you beautiful and everyone have a gorgeous week.

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Speaker 3: Bye