Speaker 1: A lot of this is outside. Good morning and welcome
Speaker 1: to outsiders. The opinion show that is too woke, virtue
Speaker 1: signaling and anti Semitism on steroids. What office works is
Speaker 1: to attracting small business customers in predominantly Jewish localities.
Speaker 2: Yeah, doctor Hans Schmutzik again, head of the Jewish Affairs one,
Speaker 2: So you know who. I'm outside here of office Works
Speaker 2: on Huntly Furists choice.
Speaker 3: Shop of Zea.
Speaker 1: Been feeling so lonely.
Speaker 2: Saw I was looking for another flu line and I thought,
Speaker 2: maybe it's a frow line with mitta.
Speaker 1: Tattoos is in here, So let's go look inside.
Speaker 2: Let's go see if we can find some romance for
Speaker 2: doctor Hans Schmutzik.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's a spoof video that popped up on social
Speaker 4: media in the wake of the You're all surrounding office
Speaker 4: for Works turning away a Jewish customer. The video featured
Speaker 4: a fictitious Nazi heading into his local office works. I
Speaker 4: think he wants to get something laminated.
Speaker 1: Ad, there's your manager I'd like to talk to as
Speaker 1: a manager.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 1: We could go for a short walk on the beach.
Speaker 3: Look of courses. If you're a bunker in Berlin.
Speaker 5: We got everywhere to go together.
Speaker 3: We could read mine cump together.
Speaker 2: I have a signed copy I got leminated here. Actually,
Speaker 2: by the way, we have a security here. This is good,
Speaker 2: this is all Its okay. We've got political discourse.
Speaker 6: Here and not for the first time, Jews have shown
Speaker 6: an admirable ability to laugh and to laugh in the
Speaker 6: face of binggotry and prejudice.
Speaker 1: Is the front line upstairs?
Speaker 2: I would have thought she would have been downstairs in Zabunka. No,
Speaker 2: the far line's not here anyway, I'm going well anyway,
Speaker 2: good in that.
Speaker 1: Right? Well, office Works have now issued an apology. But
Speaker 1: this is precisely what happens when major corporations and individuals
Speaker 1: within those corporations believe that their power and authority over you,
Speaker 1: the consumer, gives them some kind of moral superiority to
Speaker 1: forcefully impose their own left wing political dogma and ideologies.
Speaker 1: This nonsense must stop, and it will only stop when
Speaker 1: Corporate Australia learns go woke, go or broke. Now, let's
Speaker 1: grab the latest Outsiders news. Well, funnily enough, that latest
Speaker 1: Outsiders news is about Office Works and their disgraceful performance
Speaker 1: this week. Rita tell us about it.
Speaker 4: Well, we've now learned thanks to the Australian newspaper, this
Speaker 4: wasn't the first time this young employee had imposed her
Speaker 4: political views in the workplace. She had similarly treated another
Speaker 4: Jewish customer, and that's why she was set to go
Speaker 4: to the Holocaust Museum as a form of training to
Speaker 4: understand not to do this. And that visit hadn't taken
Speaker 4: place when this second incident had happened.
Speaker 1: So let's have a look at this second incident. James
Speaker 1: tell us about it and then we'll show a clip
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 6: Well, we had a man come into the office works
Speaker 6: in Elston Welston, Victoria, a suburb of Melbourne, and this
Speaker 6: fellow wanted to laminate something from a Jewish newspaper. I
Speaker 6: think it was about a rabbi at the local shool.
Speaker 6: And this this worker had this response said, I'm not
Speaker 6: going to do it.
Speaker 5: Have a look.
Speaker 7: What's that I'm pro Palestine.
Speaker 8: That's okay, you're here to do a job of laminade.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We have the.
Speaker 4: Right to deny jobs.
Speaker 8: Is that an office works position or your personal position?
Speaker 1: It is an officer.
Speaker 4: We have the right to deny jobs. What's the reason
Speaker 4: of denying I'm not comfortably proceeding with it.
Speaker 6: So there's so much to unpack out of this. I mean,
Speaker 6: this idea that, well, I'm not comfortable with this because
Speaker 6: it's Jewish, the idea that she can refuse jobs on
Speaker 6: the base on the basis of her opinion for a
Speaker 6: profit making corporation. That's one thing. But here's the other thing, guys.
Speaker 6: The other thing that's remarkable to me is that the
Speaker 6: office works has not cashiered this woman. They've only transferred,
Speaker 6: and this is her second strike. Now, this is the
Speaker 6: same company that is owned by West Farmers that gave
Speaker 6: two million dollars to the Voice Yes campaign. So, you know,
Speaker 6: compare these two things and see do you imagine do
Speaker 6: you imagine that they would be anywhere nearest tolerant for
Speaker 6: somebody who had said, look, I'm a no voter, I'd
Speaker 6: rather not laminate your yes poster or your yes campaign material,
Speaker 6: not on your life. That person would be down at
Speaker 6: centerlink before you could say yeah, exactly, before you could
Speaker 6: say no, no.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: There's even more to unpack there. You would have seen
Speaker 4: in that short clip the employee question wearing a rainbow
Speaker 4: land so who kitten? And yet she is so pro Palestinian,
Speaker 4: a place where the LGBTI community is absolutely drapped down trodden,
Speaker 4: where they are beaten, they can be killed for their lifestyle.
Speaker 4: That doesn't seem to trouble her. Those those two commuting
Speaker 4: sort of advocacies, and the article that she was refusing
Speaker 4: to laminate. I had a look at it. It is
Speaker 4: written by the local rabbi. It's about the Jewish spirit,
Speaker 4: the spirit of the local people. It's got a picture
Speaker 4: of delegates holding up an Israeli flag and an Australian flag.
Speaker 4: There is just nothing there that is any reasonable person
Speaker 4: could possibly object to it.
Speaker 9: It's not some sort of not.
Speaker 4: That would be an excuse, but the fact that just
Speaker 4: because it was an Australian Jewish news and it had
Speaker 4: an Israeli flag in the image, that was enough for
Speaker 4: her to have this unhinged response. And if you watch
Speaker 4: the full video, at the end she threatens to call
Speaker 4: the police on this Jewish man because he's taming her.
Speaker 1: Well, Ritchie, you've got what we saw during COVID, which
Speaker 1: really infuriated me during COVID, and we talked about a
Speaker 1: lot on the show, was the kind of petty little
Speaker 1: authoritarians that popped up in all the office places and
Speaker 1: different working environments, entitled to suddenly not let you onto
Speaker 1: the premises, or why aren't you wearing your mask? Or
Speaker 1: where's your QR? All this sort of stuff. They loved
Speaker 1: that petty power. And this is what fascism. This is
Speaker 1: how fascism developed when you have people in corporate situations
Speaker 1: who believe they have some kind of worthiness, some moral
Speaker 1: superiority over the customers. And this is precisely what was
Speaker 1: happening here. Reata and James are referred to the lanyard.
Speaker 1: The full woke kitten kaboodle was there on display, and
Speaker 1: this particular individual felt they had the power and the
Speaker 1: corporation had given her that power to be discriminatory against individuals. Now,
Speaker 1: I've said on Twitter that Office Works aren't off the
Speaker 1: hook on this, and I will be boycotting Office Works
Speaker 1: until they donate one hundred thousand dollars to victims of
Speaker 1: October seventh. Put your money where your mouth is for
Speaker 1: a change, Office Works and we's farmers. You gave two
Speaker 1: million to the Voice, why not give two million to
Speaker 1: Jewish organizations? Stand up, show that you genuinely are apologetic
Speaker 1: about this disgraceful performance by your employees in a public space.
Speaker 1: Nowt at at video.
Speaker 4: She says she's the manager because the customer didn't ask
Speaker 4: to speak to manager.
Speaker 1: Part of that the laminating department.
Speaker 4: It's actually my local office works. I've been in there
Speaker 4: a number of times, probably been served by that girl.
Speaker 4: It is absolutely incredible that a company like West Farmer's,
Speaker 4: multi billion dollar company office works, multibillion dollar concern, would
Speaker 4: not only allow this to happen twice now, but the
Speaker 4: fact that she hasn't been sacked that that, I think
Speaker 4: tells you everything you need to know. And like James said,
Speaker 4: the advocacy for the voice, they've got political on other issues,
Speaker 4: remember the whole Woolly's Australia Day merchandise. And so this
Speaker 4: is becoming a pattern of political activism.
Speaker 1: Pattern that must be the one direction. It must be punished,
Speaker 1: and it must be punished by customers using your right
Speaker 1: to say I will not participate in a situation where
Speaker 1: Corporate Australia plays politics and lectures me and talks down
Speaker 1: to me and discriminates against me. Only the consumers and
Speaker 1: the customers can put an end there's woke garbage. It
Speaker 1: as us who can make them go broke if they
Speaker 1: go work, and we have to it's so important. Now.
Speaker 1: While while this was going on, jams, where would you
Speaker 1: think our political leaders were, Well, one of them was
Speaker 1: in Israel. Peter Dutton, leader of the Opposition, leader of
Speaker 1: the COLI, was in Israel making making the visit to
Speaker 1: Israel to the scenes of the atrocities of October seventh,
Speaker 1: the music festival, scenes, the kabutzim there in southern Israel.
Speaker 1: There was Peter Dutton this week and or this week
Speaker 1: making that visit, talking to senior Israeli leaders, doing all
Speaker 1: of the things that our prime minister is too scared
Speaker 1: and cowardly to do. Where was Anthony Albanizi while Peter
Speaker 1: Dutton was in Israel. Oh, Anthony Albanizi was wandering around
Speaker 1: getting all the applause from the Garma crowd. We'll be
Speaker 1: talking about that later. But Rita, tell us about Peter
Speaker 1: Dutton in Israel.
Speaker 4: Well, this visit, as you pointed out, he did go
Speaker 4: and speak to the families of people who lost loved
Speaker 4: ones during the October seven massacre. He visited those sites
Speaker 4: and he seems to have a real understanding of what
Speaker 4: that country is facing. And even today they're rockets flying
Speaker 4: in from Hesbula. So that threat and that fear is there,
Speaker 4: and it's not just going there and meeting the leadership.
Speaker 4: He's gone to those sides. He's watched the footage of
Speaker 4: those attacks, the barbaric attacks, the idea of footage that
Speaker 4: they've put together from the body camp that was worn
Speaker 4: by some of the Harmas terrorists. And so he's actually
Speaker 4: watched that and he knows, I think better than any
Speaker 4: other politician in this country now what we're dealing with,
Speaker 4: what the threat is.
Speaker 5: Well, you know more than that.
Speaker 6: More than that, It's got to be pointed out that
Speaker 6: from the very start of this whole conflict over October
Speaker 6: seventh and since then, Peter Dutton has had a very
Speaker 6: strong moral compass on.
Speaker 5: This actually right from the start alone.
Speaker 6: And everybody you know, you speak to in the Jewish community,
Speaker 6: they say that he knew exactly what the right from
Speaker 6: wrong was on this from the first element. And let's
Speaker 6: not forget here. You know, Ron, you mentioned Garma a
Speaker 6: moment ago, and I know you're going to speaking about
Speaker 6: later in the program, but it's a funny sort of
Speaker 6: parallel because when the October seventh attacks occurred, Anthony Albanizi
Speaker 6: was where he was up in the Northern Territory. He
Speaker 6: was trying to get the Voice referendum over the line,
Speaker 6: and you know you had prime ministers and leaders around
Speaker 6: the world. Rishie Sunak, who was Prime Minister at the time,
Speaker 6: given incredibly strong address to British Jews and Albanizi had
Speaker 6: to be dragged almost kicking and screaming to a dress
Speaker 6: a Melbourne synagogue shool after that, and you know it
Speaker 6: just shows where his priorities. He doesn't get it. Peter
Speaker 6: Dutton wrote a really, really good piece about his experiences
Speaker 6: in Israel on the trip where he visited you know,
Speaker 6: people who had were victims of the of the attacks,
Speaker 6: who were survivors, who have family members still being held hostage.
Speaker 6: He met with Bibi net Yahoo, he met with the
Speaker 6: Foreign ministery with the National Security Advisor, he met with everybody,
Speaker 6: and he wrote a great piece in which he said,
Speaker 6: you know it's not just about Israel. I mean, it
Speaker 6: is about issue, but it's also about civilization. Democracy is
Speaker 6: you're talking about democracies are on the line. We have
Speaker 6: to support Israel because hence block the who is comeas
Speaker 6: are a threat, not just to Israel, but the entire
Speaker 6: Western democratic wavelife.
Speaker 1: He gets it. Alban Easy does not get it.
Speaker 6: Well all we have to look at how divided his
Speaker 6: cabinet is and his party is over this conflict.
Speaker 4: Well, the Alban Easy government is now moving to provide
Speaker 4: a path to residency for the Palestinian people who are
Speaker 4: coming here on temporary visas, and I think that is
Speaker 4: something that needs a far greater discussion and scrutiny because
Speaker 4: we know from the polling that's done that a significant
Speaker 4: portion of that population, it's a majority, sadly support the
Speaker 4: October seven attacks. So when you're bringing people in and
Speaker 4: I'm not doubting that they're obviously in crisis, there's a
Speaker 4: war underway. But what sort of Australians are they going
Speaker 4: to me? Do they share our values or do they
Speaker 4: condemn her masters by barity? Because we know from the
Speaker 4: polling that's been done last year and again this year
Speaker 4: that that is not the case.
Speaker 6: And why read it is it on Australia, at the
Speaker 6: United States and Canada and country like that to take
Speaker 6: refugees from Palestine?
Speaker 5: Why aren't the Arab.
Speaker 1: Dations you know?
Speaker 5: And how do we know?
Speaker 6: How do we know, we all saw the footage of
Speaker 6: Gaza residents coming out, cheering, beating prisoners, hostages with sticks,
Speaker 6: cheering the days, celebrating, and how do we know that
Speaker 6: they're not among those who are coming out here. The
Speaker 6: background checks are virtually non existent. I mean, I know
Speaker 6: as somebody who migrated to this country. They do a
Speaker 6: pretty serious background check when you come from the US.
Speaker 6: But there's law enforcement authorities and other agencies they can
Speaker 6: check with to make sure you're a good character. Some
Speaker 6: people out there might say they should have kicked me out,
Speaker 6: but some of.
Speaker 4: These approvals are reportedly made within an hour, within an hour.
Speaker 1: With the authority that runs the Gaza strip those areas.
Speaker 1: But I've got great news, reassuring, terrific news that we
Speaker 1: can all settle down and take it easy. Fortunately we
Speaker 1: have a new immigration Minister, Tony Burke, so no doubt
Speaker 1: he will be screwed, absolutely screwed uless. Tony Burke will
Speaker 1: be there and ensuring that only the very finest and
Speaker 1: most upstanding individuals arrive in this country. Tony Burke was
Speaker 1: here on Sky earlier chatting away he's now got seven
Speaker 1: or eight nine.
Speaker 6: Well, he's got ammigration and whole affairs. But you know, Cyber,
Speaker 6: this is, this is, this is the the thing we've
Speaker 6: got to remember about Tony Brooke. You know, Tony Burke's
Speaker 6: seat is in Western Sydney. It is heavily Lebanese, it
Speaker 6: is heavily buzzler. We've seen this move to push the
Speaker 6: goalposts forward on these Palestine refugees when they were saying,
Speaker 6: oh no, no, this will never happen, when now it's happening.
Speaker 6: We see where this is going. And this is about
Speaker 6: appeasing these Western Sydney seats that they're desperate to shore
Speaker 6: up because Peter Dutton has to Let's remember that the
Speaker 6: fight is not going to be one of the next
Speaker 6: election by going.
Speaker 5: After this tlcs of the eastern suburbs, of the Wentworths
Speaker 5: and all that.
Speaker 6: God, It's going to be about fighting in those battleground
Speaker 6: Western Sydney seats. This is the most cynical play with
Speaker 6: our national security for an election I've ever seen.
Speaker 4: There you go, it really is. And there are plenty
Speaker 4: of people who are migrants to this country. This is
Speaker 4: not a anti migrant vance. There's a plenty of people
Speaker 4: who are migrants here who would be looking at this
Speaker 4: and be troubled by the detail because just the polling
Speaker 4: that we have seen even in the West Bank over
Speaker 4: seventy percent supporting the October seven attacks. And we know
Speaker 4: well well.
Speaker 1: In Germany, for example, Reacher in Germany. Now to immigrate,
Speaker 1: to migrate into Germany, you now go through a very
Speaker 1: lengthy questionnaire about your views or opinions regarding Israel, regarding Jews,
Speaker 1: regarding so and so forth. Now, of course people can
Speaker 1: lie in these things, but they have made that an
Speaker 1: absolutely determining factor in migrating into Germany. We need a
Speaker 1: similar thing here. I'm not sure Tony Burke's really the
Speaker 1: right person to be in charge of that. Maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: Prove me wrong, Tony Burke bring in some really strict,
Speaker 1: strident regulations to ensure that the sort of people we
Speaker 1: played on this show last week individuals there in Guys,
Speaker 1: are individuals there in the West Bank who were saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: we support October seventh, Yeah we're all for that. Are
Speaker 1: those individuals coming in or not? That's what we need.
Speaker 4: Well, on a broad border protection issue, was Tony Burke
Speaker 4: over the years against boat turnbacks.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go down the history of his immigration. I
Speaker 1: think we do need to.
Speaker 4: Go down to their history, because if you are going
Speaker 4: to select someone to come in and fix the mess
Speaker 4: that the previous minister made, then you can't pick a
Speaker 4: carbon copy of that previous minister was a failure.
Speaker 1: You can I rushing to office works to get lemonade
Speaker 1: to Tony Burke's references raud years when he was Immigration minister.
Speaker 1: I mean, what a shock of that was, as has
Speaker 1: been pointed out, and as he's strenuously denying. Now the
Speaker 1: Greens want more truth.
Speaker 5: Here we go.
Speaker 1: As I said, James said, I'll be talking about Garma
Speaker 1: later on, but we have the Greens who are desperate
Speaker 1: to revamp this whole thing.
Speaker 4: You mean, truth, tell it exactly.
Speaker 1: And we had Albanisi there at Garma who's going on
Speaker 1: about all the treaties and Macaratas. I thought we had
Speaker 1: a referendum in which we said no to all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Apparently not Labor are still flogging this and flogging this
Speaker 1: and pushing this stuff. But now we're talking about refugees
Speaker 1: coming from Gaza, and we're talking about Israel and the
Speaker 1: conflict there. Who better to chat to that? Of course
Speaker 1: Colonel Richard Kemp, who joins us now live from Tel Aviv. Richard,
Speaker 1: it's two in the morning there in tell Aviv. We
Speaker 1: really do appreciate you staying up as always to chat
Speaker 1: to us. A couple of things to go through. We
Speaker 1: want to ask you about these refugees coming into Australia
Speaker 1: from places like Gazare. What do you think their Palestinian
Speaker 1: sympathies are likely to be? What should Australians be looking
Speaker 1: out for in that instance?
Speaker 10: Well, I think you've got to first of all, ask
Speaker 10: how these people got out of Gaza. And the reality
Speaker 10: is going to be that you wouldn't get out of Gaza.
Speaker 10: And if you've had quite a lot of money to
Speaker 10: bribe your way through. And the people that have money
Speaker 10: in Gaza are almost invariably connected either closely or not
Speaker 10: so closely, but certainly connected with a mass. They're probably
Speaker 10: members of a mass or lease supporters of the mass,
Speaker 10: I would say in most cases. So I would say
Speaker 10: there's a pretty strong guarantee of where their sympathies lie.
Speaker 10: That those people who managed to get out of Gaza
Speaker 10: and get to Australia.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 1: Well, that's Richard Kemp's point of view. Richard, Now what's
Speaker 1: happening with the military situation there. You're under threat from Hesbela.
Speaker 1: There are rockets at the moment. Tell us about the
Speaker 1: security there in Israel at the moment that you're under.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, within the last couple of hours has
Speaker 10: been quite a significant barrage of rockets fired into northern
Speaker 10: Israel by Hisbella. I can't remember the exact number, and
Speaker 10: it's quite a significant number, but frankly, nothing much out
Speaker 10: of the ordinary. It sounds bizarre when you say rocket
Speaker 10: attacks into a.
Speaker 3: You know, a country like Israel is perfectly normal.
Speaker 10: It is, and it's been going on Fromitbollaa in Leven
Speaker 10: and since straight after the seventh October massacres, so pretty
Speaker 10: much every day we've had missiles fired into the northern
Speaker 10: part of Israel.
Speaker 3: Fortunately, most of them have.
Speaker 10: Not done a great deal of harm because they've been
Speaker 10: intercepted by the IDFs their defense systems, or they've landed
Speaker 10: in open spaces. But some have killed quite a number
Speaker 10: of Israelis. And of course there was a devastating attack
Speaker 10: on you know, which your twelve dru's children playing football
Speaker 10: the other day. But I think you know, obviously the
Speaker 10: country is braced now for a more serious attack, and
Speaker 10: the Iranian spokesperson in the United Nations, of all places
Speaker 10: announced today, I think it was that that his Balla
Speaker 10: will be deliberately targeting civilian buildings deep inside Israel, could
Speaker 10: be as far down here as Tel Aviv.
Speaker 3: Or even further so, that's on the cards. That was
Speaker 3: the Iranian.
Speaker 10: Government spokesperson in the UN who was openly and publicly
Speaker 10: pre announcing a planned war.
Speaker 3: Crime by his balla.
Speaker 10: It's not unusual for his balla to attack the villion objects,
Speaker 10: but it's quite it's quite I think their departure for
Speaker 10: them to be publicly announcing it now, and of course,
Speaker 10: in every likelihood there's going to be, you know, there's
Speaker 10: going to be a serious barrel of attacks attempted, at
Speaker 10: least from his Bala in Lebanon, and that will probably
Speaker 10: be accompanied by a further serious barrels of attack from
Speaker 10: Iran like we saw on the fourteenth of April, and
Speaker 10: possibly from other Iranian proxies like the who he's in
Speaker 10: in Yemen. The Israelis are ready for it, they're prepared
Speaker 10: for it. We don't know what the scale is going
Speaker 10: to be when it's going to happen. Could be tonight,
Speaker 10: could be tomorrow. And the other interesting factor, of course
Speaker 10: as well, is on the fourteenth of April, Britain, the
Speaker 10: Royal Air Force, the US Air Force, Jordanian Air Force,
Speaker 10: other Arab countries and France joined in the defense of Israel,
Speaker 10: and I would expect a similar alliance to help Israel
Speaker 10: defend itself this time if it happens.
Speaker 6: James and Colonel we've heard reports that the US is
Speaker 6: moving more assets into the region, and as you say,
Speaker 6: there's all those diplomatic supports as well. But Iran has
Speaker 6: suffered a tremendous trifecta of humiliation through its proxy is
Speaker 6: getting killed in Beirut, in Tehrandi.
Speaker 5: Even when.
Speaker 6: At what point does their calibrated response ratchet up beyond
Speaker 6: something that could be absorbed by iron dome and would
Speaker 6: be more serious ballistic missiles actually from Iran or is
Speaker 6: Iran being very calculating saying we want to show that
Speaker 6: we're responding, but not do something that's going to kick
Speaker 6: off this regional war that people are worried about.
Speaker 10: Well, Iran has got to respond, There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 10: Iran is now the laughing stock of the Middle East
Speaker 10: with the leader of the mass taken out in under
Speaker 10: Iranian protection. In Tehran, they've got to respond that they
Speaker 10: can't afford this kind of embarrassment with over response, and
Speaker 10: the response also, in my view, has to come quickly
Speaker 10: because in the Middle East a delayed response is also
Speaker 10: seen as weakness.
Speaker 3: So they've got to do.
Speaker 10: Something, and it's got to be something I think pretty serious.
Speaker 10: Last time, fourteenth of April, they fired some three hundred
Speaker 10: and fifty four hundred projectiles at Israel and did almost
Speaker 10: no damage whatsoever because they were pretty much.
Speaker 3: All knocked out of the sky.
Speaker 10: And that was again a humiliation for them because they
Speaker 10: talked big about a retalia against Israel and didn't really deliver.
Speaker 10: So I think they've got to do something quite significant.
Speaker 10: But I also believe that both his Balare and Tehran
Speaker 10: will will not want to escalate this to the scale
Speaker 10: over full scale outright war with Israel. I don't think
Speaker 10: they can afford that at the moment. But again, you know,
Speaker 10: we don't know, and we don't know whether there could
Speaker 10: be miscalculations, might well lead to escalation.
Speaker 3: Whatever happens, I think we've.
Speaker 4: Vice President Kamala Harris met with Benjamin Nithan Yahoo, and
Speaker 4: afterwards she talked about the Israel Her mass war not
Speaker 4: being binary. I'm interested in your thoughts on that, and
Speaker 4: she said she wasn't going to stay silent about wanting
Speaker 4: an enter the war, wanting a cease fire. How do
Speaker 4: you think that Biden administration and a possible Kamara Harris
Speaker 4: administration will mean for the Middle East long term? There
Speaker 4: seems to be a fair bit of chaos within the
Speaker 4: Biden administration, But think ahead, if we do have Kamala
Speaker 4: as the leader of the free world, what does that
Speaker 4: mean for Israel.
Speaker 10: Well, I think it'll be a disaster if it happens
Speaker 10: for Israel, but also for the rest of the world.
Speaker 10: We've seen the consequences of the Biden approach. We've seen
Speaker 10: it in Ukraine, we've seen it in the Middle East,
Speaker 10: We've seen it elsewhere, the results of what is effectively
Speaker 10: a weak administration.
Speaker 3: Seeking to appease its enemies.
Speaker 10: And I think we would see a continuation of that
Speaker 10: kind of approach by Kamala Harris if she does take over.
Speaker 10: So it's going to be it's going to be devastating.
Speaker 10: And we shouldn't forget, of course, in any of these
Speaker 10: discussions that it's not just Iran that's behind what's going
Speaker 10: on in the Middle East.
Speaker 3: Standing behind Iran is Russia.
Speaker 10: And China, and particularly China is looking to see how
Speaker 10: the US responds to what's going on here, and I
Speaker 10: think they've been encouraged by what they've seen, and so
Speaker 10: I think that every likelier that if Kamala takes over
Speaker 10: and continues this indecisive week approach to foreign policy, it's
Speaker 10: going to just encourage and provoke China to who knows what,
Speaker 10: we know what their potential plans are with Taiwan and
Speaker 10: elsewhere in the region.
Speaker 1: Richard, you just got thirty seconds left. You mentioned Iran
Speaker 1: being the laughing stock. Just tell us very quickly your
Speaker 1: thoughts on the assassination of that character in the Bay
Speaker 1: Iranian assets we now learn Ismail Hamiev, the leader of Hamas.
Speaker 10: I think it shows the weakness of Iran that this
Speaker 10: was able to happen with presumably I don't know, but
Speaker 10: presumably a Mosshel operation, as you say, maybe using Iranian assets.
Speaker 10: Of course, it shows weakness that Iran around the region.
Speaker 10: But most critically, I think it shows the weakness of
Speaker 10: the Iranian regime to the Iranian people, many many of
Speaker 10: whom are dissatisfied with Iran, and this kind of embarrassment
Speaker 10: can only lead to potentially greater instability and possibly the
Speaker 10: downfall of the regime in the fullness of time.
Speaker 1: Well, that would be a great note to end on.
Speaker 1: Fantastic Richard Kemkonel Richard Kimp always great to chat to you.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for coming on at this late hour
Speaker 1: there in Tel Aviv, and please stay safe. We hope
Speaker 1: everybody there in Israel stays safe. Is clearly things are
Speaker 1: going to happen over the next few days after the
Speaker 1: break Rita's reality Check and we'll speak to the former
Speaker 1: victor and police commissioner Kill. The're about the youth prime
Speaker 1: crisis sweeping the nation as well as Victoria.
Speaker 4: Welcome back. You're watching Outsiders with your Rowan x y
Speaker 4: D James observed Male at birth Morrow and our Rita
Speaker 4: Paney from such programs as the Riata Panete shows at
Speaker 4: eleven and Left is Losing It Friday nights at nine
Speaker 4: point thirty and talking about Left is Losing It, it
Speaker 4: doesn't get more absurd than the weapon grade gas lighting
Speaker 4: we're witnessing at the moment when we are told to
Speaker 4: accept that Olympians who have failed gender eligibility tests should
Speaker 4: be allowed to beat up women in the boxing ring
Speaker 4: at the Paris Games, and challenging this lunacy makes you
Speaker 4: a bigot. We should disregard the evidence before our eyes
Speaker 4: and those pesky x Y chromosomes. We're supposed to pretend
Speaker 4: that disorders of sex development give males a free pass
Speaker 4: to compete in women's events. On what planet is that
Speaker 4: fair to the female competitors. There was a time when
Speaker 4: men beating up women were well, they were considered cowardly losers,
Speaker 4: not brave and stunning and deserving of a clause and
Speaker 4: Olympic medals. To see boxes with xy chromosomes punch on
Speaker 4: with real women with xx chromosomes is appalling. It's something
Speaker 4: that belongs in a South Park sketch. Algerias Immann Kellef
Speaker 4: and Taiwan's Lynn Uting were only last year thrown out
Speaker 4: of the Women's World Boxing Championship for failing gender eligibility tests.
Speaker 4: But there they are in Paris, beating the Bejesus out
Speaker 4: of their unfortunate opponents. That the International Olympic Committee is
Speaker 4: allowing this travesty to take place at the Paris Games
Speaker 4: tells you just how insidious the LGBTQI movement's influence is
Speaker 4: in sport. And don't forget the I in LGBTQI stands
Speaker 4: for intersex. These boxes are not trans. But it's the
Speaker 4: trans or the LGBTQI movement that sees the IOC cowtow
Speaker 4: to radical gender theory. It's why we get absurd statements
Speaker 4: like this from ISIC spokesman Mark Adams.
Speaker 11: There has been some confusion that somehow it's a man
Speaker 11: fighting a woman and this is just not the case
Speaker 11: scientifically on that there is consensus scientifically this is not
Speaker 11: a man fighting a woman.
Speaker 4: Oh really, there's scientific consensus. Now, really, then, why would
Speaker 4: the pair who have x y chromosomes, according to the
Speaker 4: president of the International Boxing Association, why were they in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three thrown out of the Women's World Boxing
Speaker 4: Championship for failing gender eligibility tests. There's no question there's
Speaker 4: scientific consensus. Really, why did they not appeal that unfair ruling?
Speaker 4: If there is scientific consensus that X Y chromosomes mean
Speaker 4: you can be a woman as long as you were
Speaker 4: raised as one or identify as one, or it says
Speaker 4: female on your passport. The IBA has released statements clarifying
Speaker 4: just why these two were bad, and it wasn't due
Speaker 4: to a testosterone test, but testing that conclusively showed the
Speaker 4: athletes did not meet the eligibility requirements to compete in
Speaker 4: the women's competition. The IBA also stated our committees have
Speaker 4: rigorously reviewed and endorsed the decision made during the World Championships.
Speaker 4: While IBA remains committed to ensuring competitive fairness in all
Speaker 4: of our events, we expressed concern over the inconsistent application
Speaker 4: of eligibility criteria by other sporting organizations, including those overseeing
Speaker 4: the Olympic Games. Olympic officials have now admitted that the
Speaker 4: pair have disorders of sex development, but that won't be
Speaker 4: taking action because apparently, while the boxes aren't that good
Speaker 4: at boxing, they get beaten by women regularly. I mean
Speaker 4: tell that to the Italian box. I had quit her
Speaker 4: match within a minute in tears, and then it looks
Speaker 4: like she was pressured into a apologizing. The truth is,
Speaker 4: despite the Casta Semna scandal, the ISOC is burying its
Speaker 4: head in the sand and happy to allow athletes with
Speaker 4: x Y chromosomes to compete in women's competitions as long
Speaker 4: as their passport says female. They have labeled conclusive sex
Speaker 4: testing as disgraceful, disgraceful to do sex testing, and, as
Speaker 4: Jacqueline Magnet reports in the Australian newspaper today, even if
Speaker 4: the sex testing was introduced, the Olympic movement wouldn't act
Speaker 4: on results because they have a different definition of a woman,
Speaker 4: which includes X Y athletes such as trans women and
Speaker 4: disorders of sex development athletes. So we are in the
Speaker 4: midst of this lunacy due in large part to the
Speaker 4: radical gender theory, where feelings trump biological certainties, like the
Speaker 4: fact that men know those with x Y chromosomes they're bigger,
Speaker 4: they're faster, they're stronger, they hit harder, and right now
Speaker 4: the activists are pushing all sorts of crazy conspiracy theories,
Speaker 4: including Russian conspiracy theories and Zionist conspiracy theories, to divert
Speaker 4: attention away from the simple fact that athletes with x
Speaker 4: Y chromosomes, regardless of how they were raised or how
Speaker 4: they identified, should not be competing in women's sport, any
Speaker 4: women's sport, but particularly a combat sport like foxing. Of course,
Speaker 4: we have sympathy for those who have disorders of sex development.
Speaker 4: But we cannot overlook the fact that if they have
Speaker 4: X Y chromosomes, they have an unfair advantage, and if
Speaker 4: they want to compete, it should be in the men's competition.
Speaker 4: No sane person with any sense of fairness and rationality
Speaker 4: thinks what is happening right now is fair. But too
Speaker 4: many have been cut into silence or worse, they have
Speaker 4: become advocates for a movement that is pushed dangerous anti
Speaker 4: women policies in the name of tolerance and inclusion. Now
Speaker 4: before I go today, Kamala Harris refused Donald Trump's offer
Speaker 4: of a debate on September four in front of a crowd.
Speaker 4: She wants the conditions of the debate Trump agreed to
Speaker 4: with Joe Biden. But Joe's gone, Kamala. You may have
Speaker 4: taken his nomination, but you don't get to take his
Speaker 4: debate conditions. To Look, I'm not sure what she's scared of.
Speaker 4: She's well, she's never been great at debates. We saw
Speaker 4: what Tulsa did to her back in twenty nineteen, but
Speaker 4: Kamala can switch it up like few others. This is
Speaker 4: her getting all southern and urban when talking in front
Speaker 4: of a mainly black audience.
Speaker 12: I said to the congressman.
Speaker 4: I didn't know he could preach like that.
Speaker 12: Yeah, girl, I'm out here in these streets and let
Speaker 12: me touch as.
Speaker 9: They say they I like us.
Speaker 12: Can I get a witness?
Speaker 4: So authentic? Isn't she Compare her accent there to what
Speaker 4: we just heard to how she sounds normally like when
Speaker 4: she appeared on the set of a Dragquen show.
Speaker 12: We are all in this together, and your vote is
Speaker 12: your power, So please make sure your voice is heard
Speaker 12: this November.
Speaker 4: Who's the real Kamala? And that's for the media outrage
Speaker 4: about Donald Trump pointing out that she has in the
Speaker 4: past identified as Indian as opposed to Black. Well, she
Speaker 4: is back in twenty nineteen talking about how proud she
Speaker 4: is of her Indian heritage.
Speaker 13: You are idiot, yes, okay, And I don't know that
Speaker 13: everybody knows that, but I find out wherever I go
Speaker 13: and I see Indian people at the supermarket on the street,
Speaker 13: Everyone's like, you know, Kamala's Indian, right, It's like our thing.
Speaker 13: We're so excited about to have you running for president.
Speaker 13: We're both Indians, but actually we're both South Indian.
Speaker 1: Yes, fantastic agree. Now well, in Victoria, a teen driver
Speaker 1: who allegedly killed a trainee doctor has been freed on
Speaker 1: bail again despite going missing within forty eight hours of
Speaker 1: his first release. To discuss this, as well as the
Speaker 1: broader issue of escalating youth crime across not only Victoria
Speaker 1: but Australia, let's chat to former Victorian Police Commissioner Kell
Speaker 1: glare Kel. Thanks so much for coming on outside. It's
Speaker 1: great to have you on here. First of all, just
Speaker 1: with this particular case of the alleged teen driver twice
Speaker 1: released on bail. How tough is it for the police
Speaker 1: when they keep arresting people and then the judiciary keep
Speaker 1: letting them off again. What's your thoughts?
Speaker 8: Joyal laws and dual laws and across the board in
Speaker 8: Victoria or a joke? I think whenever there's a death,
Speaker 8: the alleged defender should never be released on bail, no
Speaker 8: matter what. It is so traumatic for the friends and
Speaker 8: relatives of the deceased to see someone released immediately on bail,
Speaker 8: and particularly if they've been previously bailed. So although the
Speaker 8: matters yet to go to court and there are any
Speaker 8: alegass of this stage, I think that there's a very
Speaker 8: strong case for seeing that these people spend their time
Speaker 8: waiting trial in jail rather released, because we know that
Speaker 8: on the results that around the ninety six seven percent
Speaker 8: of them will be glibly convicted. So it is not
Speaker 8: a discourage of justice to keep these people off the
Speaker 8: streets until such time as their court cases are dealt with.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 4: In Victoria, we've got all sorts of issues. There was
Speaker 4: an attempt to tighten those bail laws that was defeated
Speaker 4: by Labor and the Greens. But at the same time,
Speaker 4: there's a move to increase the age of criminal responsibility.
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on that, because that's something that
Speaker 4: goes beyond Victoria. Other states and territories are also considering that.
Speaker 4: Is that something that can help the youth crime crisis.
Speaker 8: In this day and age, Again, we see ten eleven,
Speaker 8: twelve year olds committing very serious offenses, and the number
Speaker 8: of offenses committed have increased. There will be older criminals,
Speaker 8: or we use kids, particularly as drug mules for example.
Speaker 8: So and in this information age, kids are educated at
Speaker 8: a much earlier age than they were.
Speaker 3: In my time.
Speaker 8: So I think that that's again misguided. It's ideology overriding
Speaker 8: common sense. The fact of the matter is that we
Speaker 8: do have a juvenile crime problem. There's a bill before
Speaker 8: Parliament at the moment which talks about diversion for all
Speaker 8: kinds of young peril, which is a great idea, except
Speaker 8: that the youngster concerned has to consent to the diversion.
Speaker 8: And surely that's a nonsense. If they don't have the
Speaker 8: maturity to know when they're doing wrong, how can they
Speaker 8: have the maturity to know whether they should consent to
Speaker 8: a diversion or not. So there's a contradiction in the Act.
Speaker 8: And there are all kinds of other provisions in the
Speaker 8: Act in relation to the doctriate of Dolly incipax, you know,
Speaker 8: incapable of crime. These kids know they're doing wrong. If
Speaker 8: they don't, why are they masked? Why they are and
Speaker 8: why do they run away when they're challenged? And yet
Speaker 8: the Act would say that even though a kid might
Speaker 8: have been told that what they're doing is morally illegally wrong,
Speaker 8: that information conveyed to them can't be used in future
Speaker 8: proceed eas to defeat the defense of Dolly incapax. So
Speaker 8: there are all kinds of problems, and I think there's
Speaker 8: a great deal of confusion in those who would change
Speaker 8: the laws that have worked pretty well over the years,
Speaker 8: and I really don't understand the unintended consequences of what
Speaker 8: they're proposing.
Speaker 6: James, is there a problem then, and you mentioned dolly incapacts,
Speaker 6: which we've seen young people in New South Wales actually
Speaker 6: heard on tape saying that they're dolly incapacs, that they
Speaker 6: can do what they want when they're stealing these cars
Speaker 6: and going on, you know, incredible joy rides at two
Speaker 6: hundred kilometers an hour.
Speaker 5: Through tunnels in Sydney. But there's a huge problem.
Speaker 6: It seems to me that the parliaments can pass as
Speaker 6: many laws as they want about tougher punishments, but if
Speaker 6: the judiciary isn't on board. Is there a problem with
Speaker 6: the culture of some judges that they are automatically biased
Speaker 6: to be soft on these alleged criminals and say, well,
Speaker 6: you know they're young, Well give them another chance, Well
Speaker 6: we don't want to put them in custody and so on.
Speaker 8: There's a process that could be adulted where they don't
Speaker 8: have to be incarcerated in a an institution. One of
Speaker 8: the things it's often said is that well if they're incarcerated,
Speaker 8: they come out worse than when they went in.
Speaker 5: They're doing violent.
Speaker 8: Home invasions, violent carjackings, committee, violent assaults. They can hardly
Speaker 8: be much worse. You know, there are deaths as well,
Speaker 8: what can make them worse. But in fact, with the
Speaker 8: technology that we have available now, they can be what
Speaker 8: we call ring fence. They can have a tracking device
Speaker 8: which can keep them confined to their homes so that
Speaker 8: their home would in effect become a jail and they
Speaker 8: would be able to go to and from school or
Speaker 8: auto medical appointments, but otherwise they would be incarcerated that home.
Speaker 8: That way, they're not associating with other offenders and they
Speaker 8: are able then to really have a normal education, but
Speaker 8: kept away from being able to run around in the
Speaker 8: middle of the nights stealing cars and committee mayhem. Because
Speaker 8: the technology is so sophisticated. But I've got a tracking
Speaker 8: device that tells me all the golf course where I am,
Speaker 8: to the mover. There is the technology to fit these
Speaker 8: young people with those devices, keep them home, keep them
Speaker 8: ring fence, so they could only go to certain places,
Speaker 8: and that overcomes the problem of incarceration with other people.
Speaker 8: The young people that have been in trouble.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 1: Former Victorian police Commissioner Kel Glare, thanks so much for
Speaker 1: your common sense. I think you better get back out
Speaker 1: there on the golf course this morning.
Speaker 9: Kel.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for chatting to us on outsiders. After
Speaker 1: the break, we've got some net zany and some lefty
Speaker 1: lunacy in a tick net Zany the insane mad world
Speaker 1: of net zero policies. All around the world, they're realizing
Speaker 1: how incredibly luous lunatic most of this stuff is. Including here.
Speaker 14: Listen to this.
Speaker 1: This woman is a climate of fish in and environmentalis
Speaker 1: green to the gills. See what she thinks. Listen to
Speaker 1: her about the net zero madness.
Speaker 3: Have a listen.
Speaker 15: These so called green or ethical solutions aren't solutions at all,
Speaker 15: just very good marketing from the one point five trillion
Speaker 15: dollar a year climate change industry. That's four billion dollars
Speaker 15: a day. By the way, none of us can undo
Speaker 15: what's already been done. But what we can all do
Speaker 15: is make sure this doesn't escalate exponentially with fleets of
Speaker 15: unnecessary evs and acres of solar farms eating up our
Speaker 15: precious farmland.
Speaker 1: There you have it, in a nutshell, exactly what Chris
Speaker 1: Bowen is doing to this country. Acres and acres of
Speaker 1: prime Australian farming land being destroyed with these solar panels, windmills,
Speaker 1: transmission lines, fleets of evs that we're supposed to be
Speaker 1: rushing out to buy. And the environmentalists themselves around the
Speaker 1: world are saying this stuff is destroying the environment Rita,
Speaker 1: Well it is.
Speaker 4: You can only have to travel to the countryside to
Speaker 4: say it's scarred by these projects. And of course it's
Speaker 4: affecting land that could be farmed on. And we talk
Speaker 4: about food security, you talk about all sorts of issues
Speaker 4: and will that soil be fit for any sort of
Speaker 4: agriculture once a solar farm is removed or is it
Speaker 4: going to be too contaminated to act.
Speaker 1: Many instances, James, these things are just left there to right.
Speaker 1: The toxicities in the soil from the chemicals from the
Speaker 1: materials used in the windmills and solar farms is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: And the solar farms, by then the Chinese solar farm
Speaker 1: owner has moved on roble on the thing.
Speaker 6: This is the thing, and people, I think need to
Speaker 6: really be across what's happening here. You know, these companies
Speaker 6: that are doing this. They are not in this because
Speaker 6: they want to save the planet. Forget what their ads say,
Speaker 6: Forget about the brochures, forget about their wardroom commitments to
Speaker 6: net zero and you know, greening the planet and all
Speaker 6: of that nonsense. This is all about big, big, big money,
Speaker 6: and they do not care. And I have gone and
Speaker 6: I've met with communities in country New South Wales who
Speaker 6: have got these solar farms coming, and they have been
Speaker 6: treated like absolute garbage by huge international companies that have
Speaker 6: huge carbon intensive energy projects. They're using these projects to greenwash,
Speaker 6: to get subsidies, to get all of the sort of
Speaker 6: the renewable credits that come from these sorts of things.
Speaker 6: But they're not economic. They do not actually have much
Speaker 6: intention of really ever delivering a lot of power into
Speaker 6: the grid. And yet they're leaving communities, communities devastated by
Speaker 6: their presence, as well as the farmland. It's really really
Speaker 6: bad what's going on.
Speaker 4: It's large scale grifters. I mean they say the taxpayer funds.
Speaker 4: They see the guarantee of money that is going to
Speaker 4: be there. The market manipulation. If this was market led
Speaker 4: and we let the market, if there was genuine demand
Speaker 4: for these products, then fine, and if investors were going
Speaker 4: in recognizing an opportunity, But there is so much market
Speaker 4: manipulation here that you do have these opportunists to see
Speaker 4: the chance to make some easy money. That's what they do.
Speaker 4: We all pay for it through these exorbitant energy costs now,
Speaker 4: and those costs are going to continue because we got
Speaker 4: so much infrastructure work that needs to take place if
Speaker 4: we're going to get to net zero. That forget about
Speaker 4: a two hundred and seventy dollars Suppose it's saving the promise.
Speaker 4: We're going to be paying way way more than.
Speaker 5: What we wanted about children have.
Speaker 1: Children will be paying through the nose to clean up
Speaker 1: the mess that these renewable grifters and vandals are leaving
Speaker 1: across our country and in our oceans if Chris Bowen
Speaker 1: gets his way. And it's worth pointing out that at
Speaker 1: a political level, the grift is right on. You have
Speaker 1: the people like the Labor Party, the Greens, and particularly
Speaker 1: the Tills pushing an agenda which is clearly benefiting the
Speaker 1: big end of town in the renewables industry. That's all
Speaker 1: they're doing. They demonize nuclear because that's competition to the renewables.
Speaker 4: And we shouldn't be surprised that the green and till
Speaker 4: seats all happen to be in the most affluent parts
Speaker 4: of the country. They're not in the outer suburbs. They're
Speaker 4: in places where the people can afford the.
Speaker 6: Extra, well, they can afford to put the you know, oh,
Speaker 6: another two thousand dollars a quarter, who cares whatever.
Speaker 5: That's fine for them.
Speaker 6: But you know, also these communities too, These companies they
Speaker 6: come in and they say, oh, well, we're going to
Speaker 6: bring in local jobs, all these new local jobs, and
Speaker 6: again that is hogwash.
Speaker 5: There's utter nonsense.
Speaker 6: Many of these projects are actually done by foreign companies,
Speaker 6: bringing in foreign workers, foreign contractors, and the communities don't
Speaker 6: see a brass rezume.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, we've had Air New Zealand this week have come
Speaker 1: out and said nice of them, to be honest, that's good.
Speaker 1: We like more of this. I wish we'd hear the
Speaker 1: same from contestant Virgin in New Zealand. They said, no,
Speaker 1: there's no way we can ever reach this net zero stuff.
Speaker 1: Forget it, forget the targets ain't happening. A bit of
Speaker 1: honesty there. The truth is, will hurt, will hurt Bowen
Speaker 1: and other's but this is the truth. They can't reach
Speaker 1: these targets. It's it's just a more virtue signaling. We
Speaker 1: have the Capital Metro mob who are scrapping all their
Speaker 1: electric bus fleets because guess what reason. What happens if
Speaker 1: you have an electric bus. It doesn't get you to
Speaker 1: where you're going. The whole idea of a bus is
Speaker 1: to get you from A to B.
Speaker 4: But to be Billy crucial point, that's important, point.
Speaker 1: To point B exactly. So the grift is on there.
Speaker 1: Net zero is a complete fast Bowen and his mob
Speaker 1: are pulling the wool over your eyes. As soon as
Speaker 1: we kick them out of power, the better and get
Speaker 1: some common sense.
Speaker 7: And so back two years.
Speaker 4: Back, green hydrogen dreams because we course it's going to work.
Speaker 4: He pretty much said that. But no, no, no, he
Speaker 4: wants New South Wales James to spend good money.
Speaker 1: And it is what this all comes down to.
Speaker 6: Green hydrogen does not exist. This does not exist on
Speaker 6: any commercial scale. It is so expensive you cannot make
Speaker 6: it happen. It is energy negative. It has to be
Speaker 6: chilled to incredible temperatures. That storage is just incredibly difficult.
Speaker 6: That's idea that we're going to import this stuff around
Speaker 6: the world is insane. And yet the new South Wales taxpayer,
Speaker 6: this guy is going to this guy here too is
Speaker 6: going to be on the hook if Twiggy Forrest, who's
Speaker 6: already got plenty of money more than he knows what
Speaker 6: to do with, gets his way so we can all
Speaker 6: subsidize war of this green hydrogen dream. Well, you know,
Speaker 6: look at what's been happened to Forteskew and you see
Speaker 6: where that's going.
Speaker 1: And shortly we'll be chatting to Willie Packer, who's invested
Speaker 1: in uranium up in the Northern Territory, only to find
Speaker 1: out last week that the Labor Party go, oh no, no,
Speaker 1: we're not having any of that. We're shutting down potential
Speaker 1: jobs for Indigenous Australians and for Australians to make money.
Speaker 1: That's what the Labor Party grifters all around. When you
Speaker 1: hear them attacking nuclear they're just doing it so that
Speaker 1: they can promote renewables. It's a grift. Let's talk about JD.
Speaker 3: Vance.
Speaker 1: So they call him weird. They all call him weird Rita.
Speaker 1: Why do they call him weird?
Speaker 4: I don't know. He's happily married, he's got three beautiful
Speaker 4: biracial children, had come from absolute poverty, a mother who
Speaker 4: was a drug addict, raised by his grandmother, and he
Speaker 4: went on to have a very successful business after serving
Speaker 4: in the Marines. I mean, it's the American dream. I
Speaker 4: wouldn't have called it weird, but that's the Democrats line.
Speaker 4: He's weird, he's some sort of a Christian and he
Speaker 4: had a response to that. Let's have a listen.
Speaker 16: The people who call me weird want to give like
Speaker 16: hormone therapies and sterilized nine year olds. I think it's
Speaker 16: a lot weirder, you know, me just like living a
Speaker 16: normal life with my kids and my wife.
Speaker 4: He makes it except quite there. I mean, if you
Speaker 4: think three year olds can identify as a different gender
Speaker 4: than what they were preserved and birth or that can
Speaker 4: be catsled, you know, they can have six hundred different
Speaker 4: pronouns neo pronouns. Then calling this dude weird, I don't
Speaker 4: think it's going to wash with them. Am I washed
Speaker 4: with the media crowd and the activist class and the
Speaker 4: celebrity class. But with everyday regular people. I think they
Speaker 4: will look like a JD. Evans and go that's a
Speaker 4: bloke who seems to be pretty happy and well of
Speaker 4: Justed Well, I think this is.
Speaker 5: A thing here too.
Speaker 6: Is this this whole weird thing is so fascinating to
Speaker 6: be the way it just went out, you know, across
Speaker 6: the telegraph polls for everybody to certainly start seeing.
Speaker 9: Wed weird, we we weird.
Speaker 5: The whole media picked it up.
Speaker 6: Weird we were And it's funny because it signals to
Speaker 6: me that the way America is going, you've got this
Speaker 6: sort of media class and the people who vote that way,
Speaker 6: who are post ideological. It doesn't matter what actually his
Speaker 6: posif you have a sound position of the world. But
Speaker 6: now it's just about this kind of you know, it's
Speaker 6: a vibe thing.
Speaker 4: They might imagine it all a long time, because let's
Speaker 4: not forget when they had someone like Mitt there is
Speaker 4: an absolute just flake nothing. They were presenting him as
Speaker 4: some sort of monster. I was going to put glassing
Speaker 4: chains and how do you know, put make weir behind
Speaker 4: us full of women. So as long as you're a
Speaker 4: Republican candidate, you're going.
Speaker 1: To get that trip absolutely well. Take a short break
Speaker 1: after the breakwall deep they take a deep dive into
Speaker 1: Albanezy's Garma speech plus the Jabbaluk uranium deposit saga in
Speaker 1: the Northern Territor. You don't want to miss that in
Speaker 1: a tick. Hello, you're watching Outsiders, and thank you so
Speaker 1: much for watching Outsiders every Sunday morning. We certainly do
Speaker 1: appreciate you being here and making us, as you say,
Speaker 1: often do kindly the number one show on Sky News Australia. Well,
Speaker 1: you're watching Outsiders with Rita. You're who Panahe with James
Speaker 1: Macarata Morrow and myself Rowan treaty, Yeah, Dean.
Speaker 9: Tickets.
Speaker 1: Tickets to the Gama Festival, which is on this weekend
Speaker 1: as we speak, start at one thousand, six hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty dollars for a school kid, one thousand, eight hundred
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Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 1: Not sure how many every day Australian struggling with the
Speaker 1: cost of living crisis can splash out on those exorbitant
Speaker 1: amounts to watch various Indigenous celebrations and speakers, including the
Speaker 1: Prime Minister. But if it's not your cup of tea,
Speaker 1: never fear. I listened to the Prime Minister's speech at
Speaker 1: Garma this weekend so that you did not have to.
Speaker 1: Of course, the speech kicked off with loads of acknowledgements, well,
Speaker 1: thank you so much.
Speaker 17: I begin by acknowledging the people are the your no,
Speaker 17: their elders, ladies and families who have contributed so much
Speaker 17: to Australia. In particular, I acknowledge to gumach Klan, whose
Speaker 17: lands we are meeting on today.
Speaker 1: And then, of course came the entirely appropriate and sincere
Speaker 1: acknowledgment by the Prime Minister that the failure of the
Speaker 1: Voice referendum was entirely the fault of his own laziness
Speaker 1: in not reading the detail, and hubris and arrogance in
Speaker 1: thrusting this massive constitutional racist change upon an unwilling and
Speaker 1: skeptical public to guarantee his own place in the pantheon
Speaker 1: of labor heroes. Sorry, I'm kidding. What he actually gave
Speaker 1: us was the long and rambling account of how he
Speaker 1: had campaigned for the Voice, knowing all along that it
Speaker 1: might fail, but he did so because of his and
Speaker 1: his colleagues conviction which they clearly still hold that this
Speaker 1: was the right thing to do.
Speaker 9: Together, we go of our all.
Speaker 1: And we fell short.
Speaker 17: I understand, particularly for those who are dedicated years of
Speaker 17: their life to this cause, that the pain is still raw.
Speaker 1: To add insult to injury, the Prime Minister then dismissed
Speaker 1: the more than sixty percent of Australians that's you me
Speaker 1: opposed to the voice and to treaties and to Macarata
Speaker 1: and to all that malarkey, by saying it will all
Speaker 1: go ahead anyway.
Speaker 17: In this we welcome the work that state and territory
Speaker 17: governments are doing to advance treaties, agreement making and truth
Speaker 17: telling processes. Every approach is different.
Speaker 5: That's a good thing.
Speaker 17: It reflects the fact that the process is being shaped
Speaker 17: by First Nations people in each jurisdiction. Our government supports
Speaker 17: all of the efforts. We want to see them succeed
Speaker 17: and we will give them the time and space to
Speaker 17: do so. We remain committed to Macarata.
Speaker 1: Despite the fact sixty percent of the nation voted against it.
Speaker 1: Mister Albanesi, the Prime Minister also failed to mention that
Speaker 1: the two years Australian politics wasted on the referendum did
Speaker 1: nothing to help close the gap, indeed arguably exacerbated the problems.
Speaker 1: But mister Albanesi made it clear he wasn't there at
Speaker 1: Gama to dwell on the past, although he did an
Speaker 1: awful lot of that, but rather to offer Indigenous Australians
Speaker 1: a bright new future built around jobs and education. Excellent.
Speaker 1: That's what we've been saying here on the show. That's
Speaker 1: what you sent a namba jimp to Price. I've been saying,
Speaker 1: you'ng go Warren Mundane. We've all been saying that for
Speaker 1: so long. Jobs, jobs, jobs. Who can argue with that?
Speaker 5: Aha?
Speaker 1: But unfortunately, as there always is with labor, there was
Speaker 1: a catch. Most ideological left wing politician, it would appear,
Speaker 1: only wants a certain type of job for Indigenous Australians,
Speaker 1: ideologically driven green jobs.
Speaker 17: And right now changes in the global economy, I'm opening
Speaker 17: up these possibilities. Growing global demand for renewable energy, critical
Speaker 17: minerals and rare earths represents an unprecedented opportunity for our
Speaker 17: nation and for Northern Australia because the North is home
Speaker 17: to so many of the resources the world needs to
Speaker 17: make the transformation to klean energy and so much of
Speaker 17: the space and sunlight. Australia needs to become a renewable
Speaker 17: energy superpower. This is the biggest change in the global
Speaker 17: economy since the Industrial Revolution, and it also represents the
Speaker 17: best chance Australia has ever had to bring genuine self
Speaker 17: determination and lasting economic empowerment to remote communities.
Speaker 1: So let's be brutally clear here, Anthony Albanezi is directly
Speaker 1: linking the hopes and dreams of Indigenous Australians for a
Speaker 1: brighter economic future to his government's obsessive, insane green renewables ideology. Albanesi,
Speaker 1: at his speech in Gama, was literally saying that the
Speaker 1: only way forward for Indigenous Australians is to embrace his
Speaker 1: green ideology, even throwing in a spurious comment about the
Speaker 1: Industrial Revolution for good measure. He then goes on to
Speaker 1: reinforce this concept not once, but twice more, just in
Speaker 1: case you didn't get at the first time round.
Speaker 17: New careers in clean energy, construction, the care economy, technology,
Speaker 17: infrastructure and resources. These are creators of intergenerational opportunity, the
Speaker 17: same purpose under rights the community benefit principles in our
Speaker 17: Landmark Future Made in Australia Act that we introduced on
Speaker 17: the last parliamentary sitting day. We want government investment to
Speaker 17: drive engagement between businesses and communities, maximizing local jobs and
Speaker 17: long term benefit. And we want to see the same
Speaker 17: commitment in the First Nation's Clean Energy strategy we're developing
Speaker 17: with the States and territories. We want projects generating energy
Speaker 17: on country to bring new economic empowerment to communities.
Speaker 1: So did you catch that First Nations Clean Energy strategy
Speaker 1: directly linked to Albanese's laughable futures made in Australia campaign.
Speaker 1: A cynic would be correct in seeing nothing but left
Speaker 1: wing ideological boondoggles. Writ large. What the real message from
Speaker 1: Garma for Indigenous Australians is is this the future prosperity
Speaker 1: of Indigenous Australians depends entirely on labor and their allies
Speaker 1: in the Greens and the Teals being correct about another
Speaker 1: one of their ideological convictions, the climate change ideology, Your
Speaker 1: future prosperity Indigenous Australia is linked solely to the renewables industry.
Speaker 1: Yet again, just as they did with the Voice, the
Speaker 1: Albanesi mob are putting ideology first and are using Indigenous
Speaker 1: Australians to push their insane climate change green agenda. You
Speaker 1: think I'm being unfair, hardly forget about jobs, jobs, jobs,
Speaker 1: It's ideology first and foremost. And to prove the point,
Speaker 1: here's Albanese only last week at the New South Wales
Speaker 1: Labor Conference, shutting down down a potential uranium mine in
Speaker 1: the Northern Territory.
Speaker 17: Linda's approach has been defined by respect, listening and cooperation,
Speaker 17: doing things with communities, not to them, And today there
Speaker 17: is a fitting final chapter in the story. Today I'm
Speaker 17: proud to announce that our government will be working with
Speaker 17: the traditional owners to make Jabaluka part of Kakadoo National Park.
Speaker 9: Once and for all.
Speaker 17: This means they will never be mining at Jabaluka.
Speaker 1: Got that there will never be mining at Jabaluka? Oh oh,
Speaker 1: I thought we were about making jobs. No, then this
Speaker 1: is some kind of sop to Linda Bernie the failed
Speaker 1: Voice Minister. The Albanezi government is closing down a potential
Speaker 1: uranium mine by absorbing it into Kakadoo ideology. Trump's jobs
Speaker 1: every time, and the lesson to Indigenous Australians. Sure or
Speaker 1: will back you and help you if you want investment
Speaker 1: in renewables, but will block you if you want investment
Speaker 1: in nuclear power. This is a disgrace. Labor are literally
Speaker 1: tying the future prosperity of Indigenous Australians Boom to a
Speaker 1: green fantasy. There is no evidence whatsoever that Australia will
Speaker 1: ever lay claim to being a renewable energy superpower. Maybe
Speaker 1: we will, maybe we won't. The green hydrogen myth has
Speaker 1: yet to see any credible future. With investors already turning away,
Speaker 1: we are being warned we face blackouts and an uncertain
Speaker 1: future for our grid. Companies are admitting they can't reach
Speaker 1: their net zero targets. Countries in Europe and around the
Speaker 1: world are either ramping up their nuclear industries or they
Speaker 1: are re embracing fossil fuels to maintain the grid. Linking
Speaker 1: a bright future for Indigenous Australians directly to grid ma,
Speaker 1: green energy and climate change dogma is a cruel and
Speaker 1: unconscionable act of either monumental stupidity or arrogant ideological self belief. Indeed,
Speaker 1: the Albanesi government is so determined that they are on
Speaker 1: the right path they are prepared to demonize and shut
Speaker 1: down the one proven resource that Indigenous Australians should be
Speaker 1: able to rely on for future prosperity uranium. This week
Speaker 1: Labour shut down one of the world's largest potential sources
Speaker 1: of uranium. Jabluka and Albanizi even had the goal to
Speaker 1: reiterate this hypocritical message at Gama. It's loud applause. You
Speaker 1: couldn't make this stuff up.
Speaker 17: Just as we will continue to work with local leaders
Speaker 17: and traditional owners, as we are with the Mirror people
Speaker 17: answering their calls to bring Jabbaluka into Kakadu National Park,
Speaker 17: we will keep their land safe from uranium mining once
Speaker 17: and for all.
Speaker 1: Having duped Indigenous Australians into believing left wing ideology I
Speaker 1: either voice could deliver to them a political future, and failing,
Speaker 1: Labor and Albanesi are now trying the same trick all
Speaker 1: over again, duping Indigenous Australians into thinking green renewables ideology
Speaker 1: will deliver to them a glorious economic future when the
Speaker 1: evidence from around the world is that it never will.
Speaker 1: How cruel and patronizing and dangerous can Anthony Albanesi get
Speaker 1: promising Indigenous Australians a glorious, prosperous future laden with jobs
Speaker 1: and investments, but only if they embrace his green climate change,
Speaker 1: anti nuclear renewables madness joining us now, as I Said's
Speaker 1: fund manager Willi Packer. Prime Minis strength Andy Alberanesi announced
Speaker 1: on Saturday Jabaluka will be added to Kakadu National Park
Speaker 1: and after Northern Territory Government confirmed it would not renew
Speaker 1: the Jabaluka mineral lease on the advice of the federal government.
Speaker 1: Albanesi quote. This means there will never be mining at Jabbaluka,
Speaker 1: the mirror. People have loved and cared for their land
Speaker 1: for more than sixty thousand years. Our government will work
Speaker 1: for them to keep it. Saved YadA Yad, the managing
Speaker 1: director of Packer and Co. Says that Jabaluka is arguably
Speaker 1: the world's best uranium deposit, the best. With resources in
Speaker 1: the ground worth over fifty billion dollars, Jabaluka would provide
Speaker 1: the critical uranium fuel to power one percent of the
Speaker 1: world's energy grid with carbon free electricity for the next
Speaker 1: fifty years. Willie Packer, thanks for coming on outsiders. You're
Speaker 1: up in broom there. Thanks for coming here. This is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: You're an investor, you're one of the investors, key investor
Speaker 1: in Jabaluka. You learned last week that that investment you're
Speaker 1: millions of dollars that's gone. Tell us all about it
Speaker 1: and what this means for jobs for Indigenous Australians and
Speaker 1: for the uranium industry.
Speaker 14: So first up, Jabaluka is not the mind you just
Speaker 14: showed in the picture, which is the old Ranger mine.
Speaker 14: It's just a bit of land which is about forty
Speaker 14: kilometers north of Ranger and it's potentially the Jabluka depositive.
Speaker 14: Uranium is below the surface by three hundred feet and
Speaker 14: will be accessed as an underground mind with no big
Speaker 14: mess on the surface, and it can be treated miles away.
Speaker 14: It can supply ten percent of the world's uranium. And
Speaker 14: as you might know that at twenty twenty eight last year,
Speaker 14: the leaders of the world vowed to increase nuclear power
Speaker 14: by threefold by twenty fifty. Now that's going to need
Speaker 14: a lot of uranium. And this deposit is the biggest
Speaker 14: deposit in the undeveloped posit in the world, and it
Speaker 14: can do tempescent of the world's uranium. It could offset
Speaker 14: one three hundredth of the world's carbon emissions. And this
Speaker 14: is what people, you know, if we're thinking about the environment.
Speaker 14: It's something it's a dead set winner. You won't see
Speaker 14: any surface disturbance of any note and it will do
Speaker 14: wonders for carbon dioxide and looked at another way, it
Speaker 14: could offset thirty percent of Australia's emissions.
Speaker 1: And Willie, you've invested in this, mind, so what were
Speaker 1: you consulted about that suddenly goes into Kakadu? And that
Speaker 1: said the Prime Minister boasted twice at the New South
Speaker 1: Wales Labor Conference and then again at Gama Festival yesterday
Speaker 1: that no mining uranium mining will ever occur at Jabaluka.
Speaker 1: What happens to your investment and your investors, Well.
Speaker 5: We're not sure.
Speaker 14: We've got a thousand investors in my fund that's invested
Speaker 14: in it and meanwhile nine thousand other shareholders and you know,
Speaker 14: basically it's been compulsory acquired, so hopefully we're just compensation
Speaker 14: from the government and you know it's probably it's worth
Speaker 14: I believe two and a half three billion dollars at
Speaker 14: the current situation. You know it because it is blocked
Speaker 14: by the Mirror people. They've got a permanent veto over it,
Speaker 14: over developing it. So it wasn't ever going to be
Speaker 14: developed anyway, but it was always optional, it was always
Speaker 14: able to be developed. So when the future generations of
Speaker 14: Mirror decide that they'd like to get one hundred or
Speaker 14: more million a year in royalties, which is what they've
Speaker 14: been receiving, then they can do it. And meanwhile, the
Speaker 14: Australian government would receive was open today five hundred million
Speaker 14: dollars a year in tax revenue. So this is huge
Speaker 14: over it's lifetime, and it's over it's lifetime. It would
Speaker 14: pay for one of the submarines ten to fifteen billion
Speaker 14: dollars to this alien coffers, and we've shut that down
Speaker 14: and at the same time increased carbon emissions around the
Speaker 14: world by one three hundred by not allowing it to happen.
Speaker 4: GTA one hundred million in royalties per year. Would there
Speaker 4: also be job opportunities for the local population there if
Speaker 4: this project were to go ahead.
Speaker 14: The old range of mind that you saw before, the
Speaker 14: open pit that's fifty kilometers south, that employed one hundred
Speaker 14: indigenous people and in the area there's five hundred Indigenous
Speaker 14: people and the Mirror, which is the group stopping at
Speaker 14: the ad digital owners stopping at this thirty five. So
Speaker 14: the money was spread around previously. The one hundred million
Speaker 14: that you know went to actually two hundred million was
Speaker 14: paid out before the mind that range of mind shot,
Speaker 14: and that was spread around a bit, but mainly I
Speaker 14: think a lot went to the Mirror tribe.
Speaker 1: James, what is the objection of the Mirror tribe?
Speaker 6: Why are they holding out on what seems like it
Speaker 6: would be a very big win for everybody.
Speaker 14: Well, I think the leaders Evon Margarilla, and she's always
Speaker 14: had an objection to it. Her father was the one
Speaker 14: I think who signed up to it and gave its
Speaker 14: clearance to go ahead. But she's always objected, and you
Speaker 14: know that's her right and and that's that's great. But
Speaker 14: in the future and the people there might well decide
Speaker 14: we need this money and it can help, you know,
Speaker 14: I think you've seen just Center Price pushing for that.
Speaker 14: Indigenous people should own their own resource and they should
Speaker 14: get the money for themselves and have the right to
Speaker 14: invest them. And basically, you know, they could get one
Speaker 14: hell of a lot of money every year for thirty
Speaker 14: forty fifty years, depending on you know, how far this
Speaker 14: goes down deep and it's it's open and.
Speaker 1: So what do you make of Prime Minister Alban Easy
Speaker 1: at Gama, spooking all these amazing jobs that are going
Speaker 1: to come along in the future. It's going to be
Speaker 1: this and green investments and renewables and all the rest
Speaker 1: at the same time, the very same time as shutting
Speaker 1: down the proven technology and market for one of the
Speaker 1: world's great uranium deposits. Is this coherence? Does it make
Speaker 1: any sense to you?
Speaker 14: The problem you have with renewables up there in the
Speaker 14: Northern Territory is you haven't got a market for the energy,
Speaker 14: and so you've got a situation where hydrogen doesn't travel well,
Speaker 14: it doesn't go down pipelines well, it's very corrosive and
Speaker 14: it's extremely difficult to transport. It always seems to disappear
Speaker 14: to such a small atom, and so hydrogen economy up
Speaker 14: there is extremely tricky, and there's not enough demand for electricity.
Speaker 14: And actually what's happening in modern territory at the moment
Speaker 14: is they shutting the Gove alumina refinery in some I
Speaker 14: think in the next six years, and then they are
Speaker 14: shutting the Grout Island and so half the royalties of
Speaker 14: the Northern Territory which they receive to the Norn territory
Speaker 14: government will be disappearing over the next six years. So
Speaker 14: it's the Norton Territory is fast becoming a Mendican state.
Speaker 14: So I call it where it just relies on payments
Speaker 14: from the conwealth unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I think Anthony Albis Albanizi called that the care economy,
Speaker 1: where the government will care for you and look after you. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: they're shutting down industry. Willie Packer, They're an investor in
Speaker 1: Jabaluka and this week the Albanezi government shuts it down,
Speaker 1: slams down its future. Thanks so much for talking to us, Willy.
Speaker 1: After the break, James' donkey vote and speak to former
Speaker 1: senior Trump advisor Christian Week about what's happening in the US.
Speaker 5: In a tick, Hello and welcome back to the program.
Speaker 6: I'm James Morrow, and you're watching Outsiders, the number one
Speaker 6: show on Sky. Thank you so much for watching with
Speaker 6: reader Unburdened, panihy and Rowan Coconut Tree.
Speaker 1: Dean.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get to Kamala Harris in.
Speaker 6: A moment, but before that, let me remind you that
Speaker 6: Joe Biden, Yes, that Joe Biden is still President of
Speaker 6: the United States and let's check in on how he's going.
Speaker 6: Shall we watch here as the President, for reasons best
Speaker 6: known to himself, decides to walk up the steps of
Speaker 6: the jet that brought home American prisoners slash hostages just
Speaker 6: released by Russia. As Kamala Harris and other amused, all
Speaker 6: lookers wonder, just what is he doing here? I'll tell
Speaker 6: you what they say, I can't walk up a flight
Speaker 6: of plane step. Well, I'll show them anyway. Then a
Speaker 6: full two minutes later he emerges. Now some Biden apologists
Speaker 6: are claiming that he was just going up to say
Speaker 6: hi to the crew.
Speaker 5: Remember these are.
Speaker 6: The same Biden apologists who said the President, yes he
Speaker 6: is still the President, that he was fine when he
Speaker 6: was zoning out at the G seven in Italy. And
Speaker 6: as far as I'm concerned, the man doesn't know where
Speaker 6: he is or what he's doing. And it looks like
Speaker 6: he was just like, oh, plane steps, better show them,
Speaker 6: I still got it. And remember he is the only
Speaker 6: this guy, Joe Biden, is the only person on Earth
Speaker 6: with the authority to launch an American nuclear counter strike.
Speaker 6: As if sleeping wasn't hard enough. And I'm worry these days. God,
Speaker 6: look at where we are anyway on to Biden's number
Speaker 6: two or is she now one and a half?
Speaker 5: Kamala Harris.
Speaker 6: For the past two weeks, America and the world have
Speaker 6: thrilled to the closest thing the US will ever get
Speaker 6: to a coronation, the Democrats anointment of Kamala Harris as
Speaker 6: their unlikely dragon slayer to take on their great foe,
Speaker 6: Donald J.
Speaker 5: Trump.
Speaker 6: And, like her predecessor and with all the dignity befitting
Speaker 6: a new crown princess, she has not sat down for
Speaker 6: any interviews with the grubby press, not done a hard
Speaker 6: hitting interview, not done a press conference, but her verbal
Speaker 6: skills were still on display again with this one question
Speaker 6: she did take from the press, taking.
Speaker 12: Up this is just an extraordinary testament to the importance
Speaker 12: of having the president who understands the power of diplomacy
Speaker 12: and understands the strength that rests in understanding the significance
Speaker 12: of diplomacy and strengthening alliances. This is an incredible day.
Speaker 5: Did you hear your eyes on Joe Biden?
Speaker 1: There?
Speaker 6: Seriously, there's not a bouncer in Sydney that would have
Speaker 6: let that guy out of the guy that out of
Speaker 6: it into their pub But at least she understands the
Speaker 6: strength of the power of the understanding of diplomacy or
Speaker 6: something like that. And you can see why now they're
Speaker 6: keeping her in basically witness or witness protection program until
Speaker 6: the election. Catchs you, I mean earlier in the day
Speaker 6: she gave a brief statement to the press. But as
Speaker 6: her old boss Joe Biden was in the habit of doing,
Speaker 6: she has mastered the art of the walk away lest
Speaker 6: she put her foot in it again.
Speaker 1: Thank you all my present.
Speaker 4: Will you be meeting Heaven and Paul when they retire?
Speaker 5: She learned from the master.
Speaker 6: It's a bit late in the game now, of course,
Speaker 6: for a new pandemic to let her campaign do the
Speaker 6: entire campaign for the basement like Joe did in twenty twenty.
Speaker 6: So I guess that's the best we're going to do
Speaker 6: for a while. But despite the sort of deep coordination
Speaker 6: between the ruling party and the media to talitarian states
Speaker 6: can only dream of.
Speaker 5: There have been some miscues like this. It appears some.
Speaker 6: Staffer ahead of the expected announcement of Kamala Harris's running mate,
Speaker 6: supposed to be at an event in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, this
Speaker 6: coming Tuesday.
Speaker 5: Well, they hit the go.
Speaker 6: Button on an ad revealing that the vice presidential pick
Speaker 6: just well be Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro.
Speaker 7: Are we ready to fight for he?
Speaker 4: She is the right person at the right time for
Speaker 4: this job that's.
Speaker 3: Gonna do right by labor. We're gonna do right by
Speaker 3: working people.
Speaker 1: And I can't be of a better apartment than governor.
Speaker 6: Could this have been a massive mistake by the Kamala
Speaker 6: campaign or maybe they let that out, But the campaign
Speaker 6: is foxing us all having cut ads for all sorts
Speaker 6: of different shortlisted vice presidential candidates. We'll find out soon.
Speaker 6: But Shapiro would certainly be an interesting choice. He might
Speaker 6: help deliver votes in a crucial state where people will
Speaker 6: be furious at Kamala Harris's multiple pledges to ban fracking,
Speaker 6: that being Pennsylvania. But on the other hand, the fact
Speaker 6: that he's I wish would surely infuriate the hard left,
Speaker 6: kafia clad brownshirt wing of the Democrat Party. And he's also,
Speaker 6: I have to say, very articulate, far more so than Harris,
Speaker 6: and he'll be upstaging her every step of the way.
Speaker 6: If he is picked, he'll want to be articulate too,
Speaker 6: because Mark my words. We're going to hear a lot
Speaker 6: more about Josh Shapiro, including a bizarre case of a
Speaker 6: young Pennsylvania woman who was stabbed to death in twenty
Speaker 6: eleven in her Philadelphia apartment, yet whose death by what
Speaker 6: the medical examiner found were as many as twenty stab wounds,
Speaker 6: was ruled a suicide and signed off on by a
Speaker 6: young local attorney general named that's the guy, Josh Shapiro.
Speaker 6: There's also claims that Shapiro acted improperly in hushing up
Speaker 6: a sexual harassment case involved a mail of his made
Speaker 6: of his for three hundred thousand dollars and failing to
Speaker 6: keep such a thing from happening in the first place
Speaker 6: in the office he ran so interesting times. But before
Speaker 6: anyone gets to cocky on the right, this choice is
Speaker 6: not a walk up hit for the Trump cap which
Speaker 6: has spent the last week arguing over whether Kamala Harris
Speaker 6: is black or Indian rather than punching hard on the economy, crime,
Speaker 6: and borders. In the meantime, this week, Harris will hold
Speaker 6: events in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, and Nevada.
Speaker 6: She's on the road, on the road and there is this.
Speaker 6: In July, she raised a record three hundred and ten
Speaker 6: million dollars to Trump's one hundred and thirty eight million dollars.
Speaker 6: Even if some of that's funny money, and I'm sure
Speaker 6: it is, it's still money. And the battle for president
Speaker 6: is now well and truly joined finally in just over
Speaker 6: a on New York. Judge, let's keep this in mind
Speaker 6: while Merrichohn also presides over the sentencing of Donald Trump,
Speaker 6: which could add yet another wrinkle to this already wild race.
Speaker 1: Great, thanks, James. Let's bring in former Trump senior advisor
Speaker 1: Christian Witten live from Colorado. Christian, great to see you
Speaker 1: as always, So just give us your thoughts somewhere away
Speaker 1: at the very moment. Is Donald Trump up to beating?
Speaker 1: Can he beat Kamala Harris? Will Kamala Harris implode? What's
Speaker 1: your take? Oh?
Speaker 3: I think?
Speaker 8: So?
Speaker 18: You know, this was a big rollout of Kamala and
Speaker 18: a lot of the public wasn't all that familiar with her,
Speaker 18: even though she has been vice president, and almost all
Speaker 18: of the media, including media that sometimes will lean a
Speaker 18: little bit right, was just effusive in praise and so
Speaker 18: happy that Joe was out and Kamala was in and
Speaker 18: despite that, wald to while coverage of positive of pro
Speaker 18: Kamala press, if you look at the polls, they only
Speaker 18: tightened a little bit, and in swing states they really
Speaker 18: don't look good for the Democrats. As time goes by,
Speaker 18: you know, questions about why she won't take real questions
Speaker 18: from reporters. That's pretty odd because most of these reporters
Speaker 18: are very pro Democrat. If she actually does get into
Speaker 18: a debate with Donald Trump, probably isn't going to do
Speaker 18: good because she's never really had an adversarial situation. You know,
Speaker 18: the big thing coming up will be her choice of
Speaker 18: vice president. That often doesn't make a huge difference in
Speaker 18: a presidential race, but it is sort of viewed as
Speaker 18: as your first big decision as a candidate on the
Speaker 18: national stage.
Speaker 9: So we'll see if she gets a bump from that
Speaker 9: in the Democrat convention.
Speaker 18: But ultimately, I don't think it will be hard for
Speaker 18: Trump to tie her to out of control inflation and
Speaker 18: a terrible foreign policy.
Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you, I'm devastated We're not going to
Speaker 4: see a Kamala jd vance debate that ah my gosh,
Speaker 4: she's so refusing to accept this invitation to debate Donald
Speaker 4: Trump in front of a live audience. She wants the
Speaker 4: old conditions that Biden got that Trump agreed to. When
Speaker 4: are we going to see a debate and are they
Speaker 4: going to ever agree to terms? Because she wants the
Speaker 4: no audience ABC moderating, Trump wants an audience and he
Speaker 4: wants Fox News to be broadcasting it. So how are
Speaker 4: they going to meet in the middle.
Speaker 18: Well, Trump is also engaged again in litigation against ABC
Speaker 18: for libel and one of its top political guys, George Stepaniflos,
Speaker 18: So I don't see them coming to agreement on that.
Speaker 18: He hasn't mentioned that that much, but that's got to
Speaker 18: be a factor. As for Fox, I don't know why
Speaker 18: Harris is concerned. Fox is, of course viewed as a
Speaker 18: center right Certainly you'll see more conservative voices on Fox
Speaker 18: than you will on CNN or MSNBC here in the
Speaker 18: United States. But the two debate moderators who are proposed
Speaker 18: are considered very fair, and I frankly would throw some
Speaker 18: hard balls at Donald Trump. So I think Kamala Harris
Speaker 18: they're trying to pull a bi and they're trying to
Speaker 18: see if she can pull ahead in the polls with
Speaker 18: the help of the media and by not exposing herself
Speaker 18: to the public. Accept in very careful circumstances. But if
Speaker 18: the polls aren't looking good, I think that will push
Speaker 18: her out of desperation to accept a debate. I think
Speaker 18: we probably will see one after all, James.
Speaker 6: And how do you make the way the media has
Speaker 6: been just relentlessly they've decided to focus on jd Vance
Speaker 6: I think almost more than Donald Trump. The whole idea
Speaker 6: of the cat lady comments and things like that, which
Speaker 6: I think a lot of people understood the context in
Speaker 6: which he was talking about, but they seem to be
Speaker 6: using this as a way to activate young, urban, affluent
Speaker 6: liberal females. And is this strategy, How is the strategy
Speaker 6: going to play out there in broader America or more
Speaker 6: Middle America is going to say, well, there's kind of
Speaker 6: something more going on here.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's not going to hurt.
Speaker 18: I mean, as far as vice presidential candidates who've been
Speaker 18: a net drag on their tickets, Kamala Harris is one
Speaker 18: of them. Dan Quayle with George Bush in nineteen eighty
Speaker 18: eight and Sarah Palin in twenty oh eight. That's debated,
Speaker 18: but a lot of people think she may have been
Speaker 18: a drag. I personally think she actually excited the base more.
Speaker 18: It's not going to make a big difference. I don't
Speaker 18: think it sticks because once you actually watch jd vance,
Speaker 18: you see he's quite reasonable.
Speaker 9: You see he's a family man, and that's what he
Speaker 9: was talking about, and that sort of.
Speaker 1: Interrupted Chris will just have a quick play of that drab.
Speaker 1: So just have a listen exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: His jd Evan's responding to some of those allegations.
Speaker 3: Here you got a.
Speaker 14: Former president's comments yesterday to the National Association of Black
Speaker 14: Journals where he said that vice present and Harris's quote
Speaker 14: all of a sudden black as a father of three
Speaker 14: biracial children.
Speaker 1: Did those comments give you pause it all?
Speaker 16: They don't give me pause at all. Look, all he
Speaker 16: said is that Kamala Harris is a chameleon. She goes
Speaker 16: to Georgia two days ago, she was raised in Canada,
Speaker 16: she puts on a fake Southern accent, She is everything
Speaker 16: to everybody, and she pint ins to be somebody different
Speaker 16: depending on which audience she's in front of. I think
Speaker 16: it's totally reasonable for the president to call that out
Speaker 16: and that's all he did. I mean, look, she's running
Speaker 16: as a tough on crime prosecutor, even though she implemented
Speaker 16: open border policies. She's saying that she wants to support
Speaker 16: the police, yet she wanted to defund the police just
Speaker 16: three years ago. It's totally reasonable to call out the
Speaker 16: fact that she pretends to be somebody different depending on
Speaker 16: the audience she's talking to.
Speaker 1: So a superbly professional response there, Christian, your thoughts very good.
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, it's a good pivot. I've coached people on
Speaker 9: making pivots like that.
Speaker 18: So you taught you take a question that may not
Speaker 18: be advantageous to you and turn turn it into what
Speaker 18: you want to talk about. Let's said, if I were
Speaker 18: advising Trump, I don't know if I would have come
Speaker 18: up with the idea of talking about Harris's background. Her
Speaker 18: mother's from India, her father's from Jamaica. But on the
Speaker 18: other hand, this is what the Democrats do. Everything is
Speaker 18: based on race. Kamala's rollout, I mean, they had sort
Speaker 18: of a dozen different zoom calls with various ethnic groups,
Speaker 18: including white dudes for Harris. It was very weird, and
Speaker 18: so to sort of undermine that the signal that you're
Speaker 18: not going to be afraid of the Aggrieved Black Woman Act,
Speaker 18: which the American people I think have never been on
Speaker 18: board with, going way back to nineteen ninety one when
Speaker 18: it was Clarence Thomas versus Supreme Court nominee versus lying
Speaker 18: Anita Hill. The public overwhelmingly supported Thomas and overwhelmingly wanted
Speaker 18: him confirmed, which he was confirmed. So I think a
Speaker 18: little bit of a display of fearlessness here is fine.
Speaker 18: But yes, ultimately people are really furious about inflation, and
Speaker 18: they see America losing on the world stage, and they
Speaker 18: see the crime in the city. So as quickly as
Speaker 18: they can get back to those issues, I hope they do.
Speaker 5: Absolutely.
Speaker 6: I mean, I think, you know, the Trump campaign needs
Speaker 6: to focus shortly on those sorts of hard issues because
Speaker 6: at the moment, it feels to me like Kamala Harris
Speaker 6: is this sort of blank canvas and everybody's allowed to
Speaker 6: project on her what they want because there hasn't been
Speaker 6: we know, because we watch this stuff all the time
Speaker 6: what her true progressive positions are, but most people just
Speaker 6: kind of see her as this kind of compassionate, progressive
Speaker 6: sort of person who has kind of a gen z
Speaker 6: millennial mentality despite being fifty nine.
Speaker 5: Is that a danger though for the Trump cap.
Speaker 9: It is I'd say it's a serious danger.
Speaker 18: And if you look, the Democrats have done this before
Speaker 18: because their national figures generally are disliked by the publics
Speaker 18: of Jimmy Carter in nineteen eighty was an unknown governor
Speaker 18: from the state of Georgia who was seen potentially as
Speaker 18: moderate governed as a liberal.
Speaker 9: Bill Clinton was a moderate former attorney general governor from.
Speaker 18: Arkansas, and even Michael Dukakis, who came from liberal Massachusetts,
Speaker 18: was seen as this potential breath of fresh air. At
Speaker 18: one point he led by double digits against then Vice
Speaker 18: President George H. W.
Speaker 1: Bush.
Speaker 18: But I think there's still enough time to define Harris
Speaker 18: for what she really is. And also the American people
Speaker 18: very I think attuned to the exodus of people and
Speaker 18: businesses from the state of California.
Speaker 9: Chevron, the big.
Speaker 18: Oil company just announced it's moving its headquarters from there
Speaker 18: to Texas, and so to paint her as.
Speaker 9: A San Francisco liberal.
Speaker 18: And Trump does have this ability even without Twitter, just
Speaker 18: because of the force of his personality and different social
Speaker 18: media to blast through that media that's against him, in
Speaker 18: reach that reached the people. And you're also I think
Speaker 18: seeing this in just the lack of enthusiasm among younger
Speaker 18: voters first for Biden and for Harris.
Speaker 9: I really you don't see any bumper stickers, You don't
Speaker 9: see any outward signs of excitement. So I think that
Speaker 9: that could be, you know, the decisive Christian.
Speaker 1: Always great to chat to you, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for coming and outsiders. We'll just play you a little
Speaker 1: bit of the cat ladies how they responded to being
Speaker 1: called cat ladies. And this is we'll go to a
Speaker 1: break straight after this. And this is pretty funny how
Speaker 1: the cat ladies responded to JD Van's brandishing people cat ladies.
Speaker 12: Child's cat ladies young and all cats are pleasure and.
Speaker 1: Warm.
Speaker 4: The labs, wha we scorn there, we spo.
Speaker 1: Cat's camber. We short, can they need us to do?
Speaker 1: And well, Jacob cats do the pola came with them. Lady,
Speaker 1: Roll up, roll up, step right this way. It's the
Speaker 1: wackiest show on earth. It's the Canberra clown Show where
Speaker 1: this week the reshuffled clowns were all determined to convince
Speaker 1: us that it's business as usual. In the Burly Griffin
Speaker 1: big Top and nothing has changed at all. Indeed, here
Speaker 1: is everybody's favorite japester, Murray what a clown, making quite
Speaker 1: clear to us at least that he has no real
Speaker 1: intention of doing anything whatsoever about Labour's dodgy relationships with
Speaker 1: the nefarious CFMU.
Speaker 19: I'm glad you raised that, Sarah, because obviously, as much
Speaker 19: as the CFMAU issues are a very high priority for me,
Speaker 19: my single highest priority in this job will to be
Speaker 19: to make sure that we continue delivering the higher wages
Speaker 19: and more secure jobs that our legislation has begun delivering.
Speaker 1: So what will be Murray, what a clown? Where will
Speaker 1: he be applying his laserlike focus and renowned skills to
Speaker 1: why winning the next selection.
Speaker 19: Of course, we don't have any immediate plans to introduce
Speaker 19: more industrial relations reform around workplace conditions this term. From
Speaker 19: our perspective, it's mostly about betting down the legislation that's
Speaker 19: been passed and importantly highlighting the risk that Australians face
Speaker 19: we see a change of governor the next election, and.
Speaker 5: What a joke.
Speaker 1: Almost as big a joke as reshuffled Claire O'Neil, who
Speaker 1: after overseeing the largest ever intake of immigrants onto these shores,
Speaker 1: has suddenly discovered We've got a housing crisis.
Speaker 20: There's no question that Australia is experiencing a housing crisis,
Speaker 20: and a lot of the people watching at home would
Speaker 20: be feeling that in their own lives paying too much
Speaker 20: in rent. Rent's going up too fast, and for a
Speaker 20: whole generation of young people, a sense that that dream
Speaker 20: of home ownership is slipping away.
Speaker 1: Oh really, Claire, and whose faults might that be? Not yours? No, no,
Speaker 1: never unbelievable, Almost as unbelievable as prime the strength in
Speaker 1: the Albernizi's response to the report by the Productivity Commission
Speaker 1: this week that surprise, surprise, despite all that faffing about
Speaker 1: with the Voice and macaratas and treaties, and the Northern
Speaker 1: Territory has recalled ordered the worst results of any Australian
Speaker 1: jurisdiction in the latest Closing the Gap report, overseeing a
Speaker 1: litany of increases in disparity between Indigenous and non Indigenous
Speaker 1: people in the top end over the past four years.
Speaker 1: Slow clap for the Labor Party, the Greens and of
Speaker 1: course the ever so sanctimonious and compassionate teals. How did
Speaker 1: Alba respond to the news why evasively?
Speaker 17: Of course I will be talking and making some announcements
Speaker 17: tomorrow at Gama, but I'll also be listening because quite clearly,
Speaker 17: when you look at the closing the gap targets, we
Speaker 17: are not doing well enough. As no government, regardless across
Speaker 17: the spectrum, federal or state or territory, has done enough.
Speaker 1: That's right, Albo, blame everybody else, because if all governments
Speaker 1: are to blame for the failure to close the gap,
Speaker 1: then obviously no one government can be held accountable. But
Speaker 1: allow me to squarely point the finger at you Prime Minister,
Speaker 1: your obsession with trying to make your mark in history,
Speaker 1: your vanity, your hubris, and your chronic laziness in not
Speaker 1: even reading all the detail. What was it you said?
Speaker 1: Why should I? Why should I read the detail?
Speaker 3: You said?
Speaker 1: Your arrogance and your appalling judgment meant Indigenous Australians were
Speaker 1: let up the garden path and when instead they should
Speaker 1: have been focusing on jobs and education for Aboriginal children communities.
Speaker 1: Instead they got the voice full stop. You are to blame,
Speaker 1: but clearly you had other things on your mind, such
Speaker 1: as introducing a new clown who's hoping to run away
Speaker 1: to join the circus, I mean caucus, your new member
Speaker 1: for Griffith, did I here with Renee coffee?
Speaker 17: A fantastic candidate, Paul Griffith. Renee is a progressive who'll
Speaker 17: get things done. He'll actually make a difference, not just protest,
Speaker 17: on issues like climate change, on affordable housing, on better
Speaker 17: education and health.
Speaker 4: Thanks PM, I'm so thrilled to have you here in
Speaker 4: beautiful Griffith.
Speaker 1: Hmmm. Progressive is getting things done? Is why we're in
Speaker 1: the mess. We are in interesting choice of candidate who
Speaker 1: is conveniently dressed in a teal colored shirt. That should
Speaker 1: do the trick. Speaking of which, have a look at this. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's a Jewish woman screaming out that Anoir. That's United
Speaker 1: Nation Reliefs and Works Agency. We've talked about a lot
Speaker 1: on the show that Anoir kidnapped her son. Remember this
Speaker 1: is This is the letter signed by every single member
Speaker 1: of the Teals demanding that Penny Wong and the Australian
Speaker 1: Government find alternatives to delivering humanityt terry in a degaza,
Speaker 1: or otherwise work out a way to restore funding by
Speaker 1: giving your tax dollars to Anwah, a woman screaming out
Speaker 1: for justice and claiming that UNWHI kidnapped her son. Have
Speaker 1: you heard from a single one of these teal women
Speaker 1: a leg responder, Kate Cheney, Zoey Daniel, Monique Ryan, A
Speaker 1: single one? You heard from a single one? Zalie Stegel,
Speaker 1: Sophie Scamp, Kylie Tink, A single one? Have they been
Speaker 1: out revoking their demand in that letter? A demand which
Speaker 1: may result in your tax dollars going to the barbarians
Speaker 1: of Unwah. No, no, not a word, no ladies, no
Speaker 1: neither of I. As I always say, do yourself a
Speaker 1: faith and turf out a teal. But finally, no circus
Speaker 1: actors complete without the biggest clown of them all, crisp
Speaker 1: O and drum roll. Here he is sprooking his nonsensical
Speaker 1: net zero garbage.
Speaker 21: We know the opportunities are enormous for Australia and New
Speaker 21: Zealand to be key parts of the supply chain for
Speaker 21: sustainable aviation fuel across not just our region but the world.
Speaker 1: And then right on que A, New Zealand announced it
Speaker 1: will never ever ever meet its net zero target. Have
Speaker 1: you ever met a bigger clown than Chris Bowen, what
Speaker 1: would Steve Miller say? Hyperbole? Hyperbole as pronounced by Julia
Speaker 1: Gillard extreme. You have a listen to Kamala Harris getting
Speaker 1: very excited or not about Christmas.
Speaker 12: And when we all sing happy tunes and sing Merry
Speaker 12: Christmas and wish each other merry Christmas, these children are
Speaker 12: not going to have a merry Christmas.
Speaker 4: How dare we speak merry Christmas?
Speaker 1: How dare we? How dare we speak merry Christmas?
Speaker 5: Reader, James?
Speaker 4: How dare we speak merry Christmas? With her face? That
Speaker 4: should be for the Republicans. That's the real Kamala right there.
Speaker 4: This notion that she is a moderate, she's a centrist.
Speaker 4: Her voting record as a Senator the most radically left
Speaker 4: off any senator, and every position she has championed over
Speaker 4: the last decade at least has been like that.
Speaker 6: Wait sorry, sorry, sorry, yes, I know she was doing
Speaker 6: her hold Greta Thunberg impersonation there with the hell, let's
Speaker 6: not forget let's not forget this reader. She's also kind
Speaker 6: of dip. Have a look at her here talking about
Speaker 6: what she would do about inflation.
Speaker 12: Prices have gone up and families and individuals are dealing
Speaker 12: with the realities of that bread costs more, the gas
Speaker 12: costs more, and we have to understand what that means.
Speaker 12: That's about the cost of living going up. That's about
Speaker 12: having to stress and stretch limited resources.
Speaker 4: I lost about ten points just trying to get through that.
Speaker 4: And Trump today at the Georgia rally spoke about just
Speaker 4: how radically left he she is. So he's finally focusing
Speaker 4: on her record, which I think is going to be
Speaker 4: very well because the media is not doing it.
Speaker 1: Before we play the Trump clip, James that I mean,
Speaker 1: we laugh about that inflation clip, but that is serious,
Speaker 1: I mean blueless, you know.
Speaker 6: And it's like, and there's so many because here's the thing.
Speaker 6: Everybody is now going and looking for things she has
Speaker 6: said in the past because she's not saying anything new now.
Speaker 6: So all of these clips here she really comes off
Speaker 6: as just being so not across any of the stuff
Speaker 6: that she's supposed to talk about, and she's just grasping forwards.
Speaker 6: She's like Bart Simpson trying to give a book report
Speaker 6: and he hasn't read the books.
Speaker 5: So it's like, oh, well, yeah.
Speaker 1: That version.
Speaker 4: I prefer that version, the inept clueless version. Then where
Speaker 4: she actually speaks with passion because you know what, she
Speaker 4: has backed the Let's have a look.
Speaker 8: Kamala's radical ideas belong in a San Francisco commune filled
Speaker 8: with far left frinks, but.
Speaker 9: They do not belong in the White House. They do
Speaker 9: not belo in the United States.
Speaker 2: This November, Georgia is going to tell Kamala that we
Speaker 2: will not let her.
Speaker 1: Turn America into a communist country.
Speaker 4: Well, there you go, she's a San Francisco Liberal, I mean,
Speaker 4: and then trust me, in America, those words mean something.
Speaker 6: It does with this, they're gonna fact check this. They're
Speaker 6: gonna do a whole fact checking. Oh well, Kamala Harris
Speaker 6: never said anything about endorsing communism, so therefore, you know,
Speaker 6: Donald Trump gets a bunch of Pinnocchio's as you say
Speaker 6: read it. You're right, people understand what that code is
Speaker 6: there for San Francisco liberals.
Speaker 5: But you know, Kamala Harris, she.
Speaker 6: Is trying to skate through on the vibe and people
Speaker 6: who just think passion is a consumer good and don't
Speaker 6: really care about what that means. They just want to
Speaker 6: go along to be seen to be being nice.
Speaker 1: Well, absolutely going to stay on top of that but
Speaker 1: a quick bit of instant kama. Let's hit. He end
Speaker 1: the show on some good news instant karma. Here's a sting.
Speaker 8: Mm.
Speaker 1: Well it happened to Ismael Hannie who went along to
Speaker 1: welcome in the new Iranian president. Sat there going death
Speaker 1: to Israel, death to America, and then got blown up
Speaker 1: by the Israelis and a couple of hours.
Speaker 7: Later Israel he could have There you go, Outsiders, there
Speaker 7: you go, and that's it.
Speaker 1: We'll see you know, a little bit of instant karma,
Speaker 1: and we'll see you next Sunday here on Outsiders, See
Speaker 1: you