WEBVTT - Outsiders | 4 August 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:15.400 A lot of this is outside. Good morning and welcome 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:19.680 to outsiders. The opinion show that is too woke, virtue 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:26.160 signaling and anti Semitism on steroids. What office works is 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:32.000 to attracting small business customers in predominantly Jewish localities. 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:36.120 Yeah, doctor Hans Schmutzik again, head of the Jewish Affairs one, 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:38.160 So you know who. I'm outside here of office Works 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:40.159 on Huntly Furists choice. 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:41.360 Shop of Zea. 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:42.839 Been feeling so lonely. 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:45.680 Saw I was looking for another flu line and I thought, 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.559 maybe it's a frow line with mitta. 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:50.320 Tattoos is in here, So let's go look inside. 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:52.600 Let's go see if we can find some romance for 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:54.120 doctor Hans Schmutzik. 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.520 Yes, that's a spoof video that popped up on social 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:01.200 media in the wake of the You're all surrounding office 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:04.920 for Works turning away a Jewish customer. The video featured 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:09.800 a fictitious Nazi heading into his local office works. I 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:11.640 think he wants to get something laminated. 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:14.840 Ad, there's your manager I'd like to talk to as 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:15.240 a manager. 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:15.640 Thank you. 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:18.759 We could go for a short walk on the beach. 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:20.920 Look of courses. If you're a bunker in Berlin. 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:23.240 We got everywhere to go together. 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:24.920 We could read mine cump together. 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:27.759 I have a signed copy I got leminated here. Actually, 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:30.320 by the way, we have a security here. This is good, 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:33.080 this is all Its okay. We've got political discourse. 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:35.840 Here and not for the first time, Jews have shown 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:41.080 an admirable ability to laugh and to laugh in the 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:42.960 face of binggotry and prejudice. 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:45.640 Is the front line upstairs? 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:50.040 I would have thought she would have been downstairs in Zabunka. No, 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:53.400 the far line's not here anyway, I'm going well anyway, 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:53.840 good in that. 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:59.760 Right? Well, office Works have now issued an apology. But 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:04.080 this is precisely what happens when major corporations and individuals 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:09.560 within those corporations believe that their power and authority over you, 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:14.360 the consumer, gives them some kind of moral superiority to 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:20.680 forcefully impose their own left wing political dogma and ideologies. 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:25.120 This nonsense must stop, and it will only stop when 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:32.320 Corporate Australia learns go woke, go or broke. Now, let's 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:39.760 grab the latest Outsiders news. Well, funnily enough, that latest 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:43.920 Outsiders news is about Office Works and their disgraceful performance 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:45.720 this week. Rita tell us about it. 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:49.400 Well, we've now learned thanks to the Australian newspaper, this 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:53.480 wasn't the first time this young employee had imposed her 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:59.840 political views in the workplace. She had similarly treated another 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:03.040 Jewish customer, and that's why she was set to go 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:06.800 to the Holocaust Museum as a form of training to 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:11.360 understand not to do this. And that visit hadn't taken 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.520 place when this second incident had happened. 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.360 So let's have a look at this second incident. James 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:17.840 tell us about it and then we'll show a clip 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:18.120 of it. 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:20.480 Well, we had a man come into the office works 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:25.720 in Elston Welston, Victoria, a suburb of Melbourne, and this 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:29.120 fellow wanted to laminate something from a Jewish newspaper. I 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.520 think it was about a rabbi at the local shool. 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:38.440 And this this worker had this response said, I'm not 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:38.960 going to do it. 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:39.440 Have a look. 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:42.760 What's that I'm pro Palestine. 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:45.440 That's okay, you're here to do a job of laminade. 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:46.680 Yeah. We have the. 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:48.440 Right to deny jobs. 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.000 Is that an office works position or your personal position? 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:52.240 It is an officer. 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:54.800 We have the right to deny jobs. What's the reason 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.480 of denying I'm not comfortably proceeding with it. 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.760 So there's so much to unpack out of this. I mean, 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.600 this idea that, well, I'm not comfortable with this because 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:08.080 it's Jewish, the idea that she can refuse jobs on 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.480 the base on the basis of her opinion for a 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:14.440 profit making corporation. That's one thing. But here's the other thing, guys. 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.640 The other thing that's remarkable to me is that the 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:21.400 office works has not cashiered this woman. They've only transferred, 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.599 and this is her second strike. Now, this is the 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.640 same company that is owned by West Farmers that gave 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:34.160 two million dollars to the Voice Yes campaign. So, you know, 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:37.840 compare these two things and see do you imagine do 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:41.000 you imagine that they would be anywhere nearest tolerant for 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:43.960 somebody who had said, look, I'm a no voter, I'd 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:48.360 rather not laminate your yes poster or your yes campaign material, 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.600 not on your life. That person would be down at 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:56.080 centerlink before you could say yeah, exactly, before you could 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:57.240 say no, no. 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:57.760 Yeah. 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:01.599 There's even more to unpack there. You would have seen 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:05.919 in that short clip the employee question wearing a rainbow 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:13.400 land so who kitten? And yet she is so pro Palestinian, 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:19.880 a place where the LGBTI community is absolutely drapped down trodden, 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:23.320 where they are beaten, they can be killed for their lifestyle. 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.560 That doesn't seem to trouble her. Those those two commuting 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:31.760 sort of advocacies, and the article that she was refusing 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.520 to laminate. I had a look at it. It is 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:38.679 written by the local rabbi. It's about the Jewish spirit, 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:42.320 the spirit of the local people. It's got a picture 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:46.560 of delegates holding up an Israeli flag and an Australian flag. 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:51.719 There is just nothing there that is any reasonable person 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:53.680 could possibly object to it. 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:54.919 It's not some sort of not. 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:58.320 That would be an excuse, but the fact that just 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.840 because it was an Australian Jewish news and it had 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.760 an Israeli flag in the image, that was enough for 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:08.600 her to have this unhinged response. And if you watch 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:12.159 the full video, at the end she threatens to call 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:15.880 the police on this Jewish man because he's taming her. 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:19.320 Well, Ritchie, you've got what we saw during COVID, which 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:22.479 really infuriated me during COVID, and we talked about a 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.400 lot on the show, was the kind of petty little 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:28.680 authoritarians that popped up in all the office places and 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:33.120 different working environments, entitled to suddenly not let you onto 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:35.440 the premises, or why aren't you wearing your mask? Or 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:37.560 where's your QR? All this sort of stuff. They loved 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.480 that petty power. And this is what fascism. This is 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:45.360 how fascism developed when you have people in corporate situations 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:48.360 who believe they have some kind of worthiness, some moral 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:51.479 superiority over the customers. And this is precisely what was 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.880 happening here. Reata and James are referred to the lanyard. 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:58.400 The full woke kitten kaboodle was there on display, and 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:03.000 this particular individual felt they had the power and the 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:08.440 corporation had given her that power to be discriminatory against individuals. Now, 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:11.960 I've said on Twitter that Office Works aren't off the 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:14.720 hook on this, and I will be boycotting Office Works 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:18.800 until they donate one hundred thousand dollars to victims of 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:20.960 October seventh. Put your money where your mouth is for 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.480 a change, Office Works and we's farmers. You gave two 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.080 million to the Voice, why not give two million to 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:31.080 Jewish organizations? Stand up, show that you genuinely are apologetic 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:36.240 about this disgraceful performance by your employees in a public space. 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:38.160 Nowt at at video. 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:41.680 She says she's the manager because the customer didn't ask 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:42.800 to speak to manager. 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:46.360 Part of that the laminating department. 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:49.080 It's actually my local office works. I've been in there 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:52.160 a number of times, probably been served by that girl. 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:57.760 It is absolutely incredible that a company like West Farmer's, 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:02.440 multi billion dollar company office works, multibillion dollar concern, would 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:05.160 not only allow this to happen twice now, but the 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:09.080 fact that she hasn't been sacked that that, I think 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.640 tells you everything you need to know. And like James said, 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:15.680 the advocacy for the voice, they've got political on other issues, 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:20.120 remember the whole Woolly's Australia Day merchandise. And so this 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:23.240 is becoming a pattern of political activism. 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.440 Pattern that must be the one direction. It must be punished, 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:29.840 and it must be punished by customers using your right 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:33.880 to say I will not participate in a situation where 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:37.839 Corporate Australia plays politics and lectures me and talks down 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.599 to me and discriminates against me. Only the consumers and 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.400 the customers can put an end there's woke garbage. It 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:45.920 as us who can make them go broke if they 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:49.520 go work, and we have to it's so important. Now. 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:53.280 While while this was going on, jams, where would you 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.400 think our political leaders were, Well, one of them was 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:59.559 in Israel. Peter Dutton, leader of the Opposition, leader of 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:03.640 the COLI, was in Israel making making the visit to 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:07.600 Israel to the scenes of the atrocities of October seventh, 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:11.400 the music festival, scenes, the kabutzim there in southern Israel. 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.319 There was Peter Dutton this week and or this week 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:18.840 making that visit, talking to senior Israeli leaders, doing all 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.920 of the things that our prime minister is too scared 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:26.960 and cowardly to do. Where was Anthony Albanizi while Peter 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.920 Dutton was in Israel. Oh, Anthony Albanizi was wandering around 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.200 getting all the applause from the Garma crowd. We'll be 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:35.240 talking about that later. But Rita, tell us about Peter 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:36.600 Dutton in Israel. 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:40.840 Well, this visit, as you pointed out, he did go 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:44.640 and speak to the families of people who lost loved 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:48.120 ones during the October seven massacre. He visited those sites 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:53.199 and he seems to have a real understanding of what 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:57.320 that country is facing. And even today they're rockets flying 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:02.400 in from Hesbula. So that threat and that fear is there, 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:07.000 and it's not just going there and meeting the leadership. 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:10.800 He's gone to those sides. He's watched the footage of 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:16.360 those attacks, the barbaric attacks, the idea of footage that 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:20.080 they've put together from the body camp that was worn 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:23.319 by some of the Harmas terrorists. And so he's actually 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:26.800 watched that and he knows, I think better than any 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:31.560 other politician in this country now what we're dealing with, 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:32.480 what the threat is. 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:34.200 Well, you know more than that. 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:36.280 More than that, It's got to be pointed out that 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:41.240 from the very start of this whole conflict over October 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.400 seventh and since then, Peter Dutton has had a very 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:45.840 strong moral compass on. 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:47.840 This actually right from the start alone. 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:51.040 And everybody you know, you speak to in the Jewish community, 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:54.120 they say that he knew exactly what the right from 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:57.080 wrong was on this from the first element. And let's 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:00.120 not forget here. You know, Ron, you mentioned Garma a 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:01.600 moment ago, and I know you're going to speaking about 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:05.680 later in the program, but it's a funny sort of 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:09.760 parallel because when the October seventh attacks occurred, Anthony Albanizi 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.520 was where he was up in the Northern Territory. He 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:16.280 was trying to get the Voice referendum over the line, 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:18.760 and you know you had prime ministers and leaders around 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:21.520 the world. Rishie Sunak, who was Prime Minister at the time, 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:26.880 given incredibly strong address to British Jews and Albanizi had 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.560 to be dragged almost kicking and screaming to a dress 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:33.760 a Melbourne synagogue shool after that, and you know it 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.800 just shows where his priorities. He doesn't get it. Peter 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:41.640 Dutton wrote a really, really good piece about his experiences 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.320 in Israel on the trip where he visited you know, 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.640 people who had were victims of the of the attacks, 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:51.000 who were survivors, who have family members still being held hostage. 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.120 He met with Bibi net Yahoo, he met with the 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:56.640 Foreign ministery with the National Security Advisor, he met with everybody, 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:58.920 and he wrote a great piece in which he said, 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.360 you know it's not just about Israel. I mean, it 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:05.000 is about issue, but it's also about civilization. Democracy is 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:06.880 you're talking about democracies are on the line. We have 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:10.920 to support Israel because hence block the who is comeas 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:13.920 are a threat, not just to Israel, but the entire 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:15.800 Western democratic wavelife. 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:19.160 He gets it. Alban Easy does not get it. 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:20.800 Well all we have to look at how divided his 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.720 cabinet is and his party is over this conflict. 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:27.679 Well, the Alban Easy government is now moving to provide 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:32.280 a path to residency for the Palestinian people who are 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:35.800 coming here on temporary visas, and I think that is 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:39.439 something that needs a far greater discussion and scrutiny because 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:44.400 we know from the polling that's done that a significant 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:49.400 portion of that population, it's a majority, sadly support the 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.920 October seven attacks. So when you're bringing people in and 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.960 I'm not doubting that they're obviously in crisis, there's a 0:12:56.000 --> 0:13:00.240 war underway. But what sort of Australians are they going 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.760 to me? Do they share our values or do they 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:06.679 condemn her masters by barity? Because we know from the 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.720 polling that's been done last year and again this year 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:12.120 that that is not the case. 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.960 And why read it is it on Australia, at the 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.280 United States and Canada and country like that to take 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.280 refugees from Palestine? 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:20.319 Why aren't the Arab. 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:21.440 Dations you know? 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:22.280 And how do we know? 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:24.920 How do we know, we all saw the footage of 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:29.960 Gaza residents coming out, cheering, beating prisoners, hostages with sticks, 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:33.480 cheering the days, celebrating, and how do we know that 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.840 they're not among those who are coming out here. The 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.959 background checks are virtually non existent. I mean, I know 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.199 as somebody who migrated to this country. They do a 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:43.400 pretty serious background check when you come from the US. 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:46.520 But there's law enforcement authorities and other agencies they can 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:48.680 check with to make sure you're a good character. Some 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:50.360 people out there might say they should have kicked me out, 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:51.800 but some of. 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:57.679 These approvals are reportedly made within an hour, within an hour. 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:02.640 With the authority that runs the Gaza strip those areas. 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.880 But I've got great news, reassuring, terrific news that we 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:08.520 can all settle down and take it easy. Fortunately we 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:11.880 have a new immigration Minister, Tony Burke, so no doubt 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:16.600 he will be screwed, absolutely screwed uless. Tony Burke will 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.360 be there and ensuring that only the very finest and 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:23.720 most upstanding individuals arrive in this country. Tony Burke was 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:27.160 here on Sky earlier chatting away he's now got seven 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:27.880 or eight nine. 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.520 Well, he's got ammigration and whole affairs. But you know, Cyber, 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.640 this is, this is, this is the the thing we've 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.240 got to remember about Tony Brooke. You know, Tony Burke's 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.200 seat is in Western Sydney. It is heavily Lebanese, it 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:45.200 is heavily buzzler. We've seen this move to push the 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:48.240 goalposts forward on these Palestine refugees when they were saying, 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:50.280 oh no, no, this will never happen, when now it's happening. 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:54.440 We see where this is going. And this is about 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:58.440 appeasing these Western Sydney seats that they're desperate to shore 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.600 up because Peter Dutton has to Let's remember that the 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:03.240 fight is not going to be one of the next 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:04.400 election by going. 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:06.600 After this tlcs of the eastern suburbs, of the Wentworths 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:07.000 and all that. 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:10.840 God, It's going to be about fighting in those battleground 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:14.600 Western Sydney seats. This is the most cynical play with 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:17.920 our national security for an election I've ever seen. 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:23.040 There you go, it really is. And there are plenty 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:26.440 of people who are migrants to this country. This is 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:30.880 not a anti migrant vance. There's a plenty of people 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:34.040 who are migrants here who would be looking at this 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:38.280 and be troubled by the detail because just the polling 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:41.240 that we have seen even in the West Bank over 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:46.160 seventy percent supporting the October seven attacks. And we know 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:47.800 well well. 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:50.920 In Germany, for example, Reacher in Germany. Now to immigrate, 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:53.880 to migrate into Germany, you now go through a very 0:15:54.040 --> 0:16:01.160 lengthy questionnaire about your views or opinions regarding Israel, regarding Jews, 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.040 regarding so and so forth. Now, of course people can 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.640 lie in these things, but they have made that an 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:10.560 absolutely determining factor in migrating into Germany. We need a 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:12.960 similar thing here. I'm not sure Tony Burke's really the 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.600 right person to be in charge of that. Maybe I'm wrong. 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:19.000 Prove me wrong, Tony Burke bring in some really strict, 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.920 strident regulations to ensure that the sort of people we 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:27.680 played on this show last week individuals there in Guys, 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:30.680 are individuals there in the West Bank who were saying, yeah, 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.560 we support October seventh, Yeah we're all for that. Are 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:35.920 those individuals coming in or not? That's what we need. 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:39.560 Well, on a broad border protection issue, was Tony Burke 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:41.680 over the years against boat turnbacks. 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:45.800 I wouldn't go down the history of his immigration. I 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:46.760 think we do need to. 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:48.880 Go down to their history, because if you are going 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:52.440 to select someone to come in and fix the mess 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:56.240 that the previous minister made, then you can't pick a 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:59.080 carbon copy of that previous minister was a failure. 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:01.520 You can I rushing to office works to get lemonade 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:06.720 to Tony Burke's references raud years when he was Immigration minister. 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:08.840 I mean, what a shock of that was, as has 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.960 been pointed out, and as he's strenuously denying. Now the 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:14.800 Greens want more truth. 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:15.960 Here we go. 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:18.160 As I said, James said, I'll be talking about Garma 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.320 later on, but we have the Greens who are desperate 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:22.520 to revamp this whole thing. 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.160 You mean, truth, tell it exactly. 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:28.360 And we had Albanisi there at Garma who's going on 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:31.520 about all the treaties and Macaratas. I thought we had 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:33.760 a referendum in which we said no to all that stuff. 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.840 Apparently not Labor are still flogging this and flogging this 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:40.160 and pushing this stuff. But now we're talking about refugees 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.919 coming from Gaza, and we're talking about Israel and the 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:46.000 conflict there. Who better to chat to that? Of course 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:51.480 Colonel Richard Kemp, who joins us now live from Tel Aviv. Richard, 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:53.480 it's two in the morning there in tell Aviv. We 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.240 really do appreciate you staying up as always to chat 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:58.200 to us. A couple of things to go through. We 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:02.639 want to ask you about these refugees coming into Australia 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:08.200 from places like Gazare. What do you think their Palestinian 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:12.600 sympathies are likely to be? What should Australians be looking 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:14.080 out for in that instance? 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:17.200 Well, I think you've got to first of all, ask 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:22.720 how these people got out of Gaza. And the reality 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:25.119 is going to be that you wouldn't get out of Gaza. 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:26.600 And if you've had quite a lot of money to 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:30.119 bribe your way through. And the people that have money 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:36.119 in Gaza are almost invariably connected either closely or not 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:38.960 so closely, but certainly connected with a mass. They're probably 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.800 members of a mass or lease supporters of the mass, 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:45.200 I would say in most cases. So I would say 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:48.720 there's a pretty strong guarantee of where their sympathies lie. 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:51.679 That those people who managed to get out of Gaza 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:52.639 and get to Australia. 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:54.000 There you go. 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:57.560 Well, that's Richard Kemp's point of view. Richard, Now what's 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:01.920 happening with the military situation there. You're under threat from Hesbela. 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:04.679 There are rockets at the moment. Tell us about the 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:07.520 security there in Israel at the moment that you're under. 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:12.240 Yeah, I mean, within the last couple of hours has 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:15.600 been quite a significant barrage of rockets fired into northern 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:18.840 Israel by Hisbella. I can't remember the exact number, and 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:22.640 it's quite a significant number, but frankly, nothing much out 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:24.960 of the ordinary. It sounds bizarre when you say rocket 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:27.280 attacks into a. 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:30.320 You know, a country like Israel is perfectly normal. 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:34.200 It is, and it's been going on Fromitbollaa in Leven 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:38.000 and since straight after the seventh October massacres, so pretty 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:41.240 much every day we've had missiles fired into the northern 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:42.080 part of Israel. 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:44.160 Fortunately, most of them have. 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:47.040 Not done a great deal of harm because they've been 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:51.639 intercepted by the IDFs their defense systems, or they've landed 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:55.320 in open spaces. But some have killed quite a number 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:58.200 of Israelis. And of course there was a devastating attack 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:02.560 on you know, which your twelve dru's children playing football 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:06.439 the other day. But I think you know, obviously the 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:11.080 country is braced now for a more serious attack, and 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:15.600 the Iranian spokesperson in the United Nations, of all places 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:20.200 announced today, I think it was that that his Balla 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:26.080 will be deliberately targeting civilian buildings deep inside Israel, could 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:28.200 be as far down here as Tel Aviv. 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:31.040 Or even further so, that's on the cards. That was 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:33.719 the Iranian. 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:37.720 Government spokesperson in the UN who was openly and publicly 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:40.200 pre announcing a planned war. 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:41.320 Crime by his balla. 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:44.840 It's not unusual for his balla to attack the villion objects, 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:47.600 but it's quite it's quite I think their departure for 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:50.639 them to be publicly announcing it now, and of course, 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:54.800 in every likelihood there's going to be, you know, there's 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:58.239 going to be a serious barrel of attacks attempted, at 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:01.000 least from his Bala in Lebanon, and that will probably 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:05.080 be accompanied by a further serious barrels of attack from 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:07.800 Iran like we saw on the fourteenth of April, and 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:11.960 possibly from other Iranian proxies like the who he's in 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:15.440 in Yemen. The Israelis are ready for it, they're prepared 0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:17.879 for it. We don't know what the scale is going 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:19.879 to be when it's going to happen. Could be tonight, 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:25.520 could be tomorrow. And the other interesting factor, of course 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:28.560 as well, is on the fourteenth of April, Britain, the 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:32.200 Royal Air Force, the US Air Force, Jordanian Air Force, 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:36.320 other Arab countries and France joined in the defense of Israel, 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:40.119 and I would expect a similar alliance to help Israel 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:42.440 defend itself this time if it happens. 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:45.439 James and Colonel we've heard reports that the US is 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:48.520 moving more assets into the region, and as you say, 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:51.760 there's all those diplomatic supports as well. But Iran has 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:55.680 suffered a tremendous trifecta of humiliation through its proxy is 0:21:55.720 --> 0:21:58.440 getting killed in Beirut, in Tehrandi. 0:21:58.440 --> 0:21:59.600 Even when. 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:04.800