Speaker 1: Apod Shape Production. Welcome back to another episode of Am
Speaker 1: I A Bad Mum Podcasts? The question we constantly ask
Speaker 1: when I start these. I think back to when we
Speaker 1: first started this podcast, and I was like, it's been
Speaker 1: years and we have still got content.
Speaker 2: I always drive here, Katie, and you always go you
Speaker 2: got some content? You know, like what have you got
Speaker 2: and what? Like? We sit in, we debrief and half
Speaker 2: the time I'm still in a yeah. I mean I've
Speaker 2: got plenty, Like so much shit actually went down in
Speaker 2: the last week that life becomes a blur. Kids just
Speaker 2: are the gifts that just keep on giving. I like
Speaker 2: to sayda, seven days week, three hundred and sixty five
Speaker 2: days a year, and then count down the until they're what,
Speaker 2: oh well, people say eighteen, Oh you're staying there thirty.
Speaker 1: Someone this morning said to me I was talking about teenagers,
Speaker 1: and they were like, oh, yeah, it gets better when
Speaker 1: they're about, you know, early twenties. I was like, what
Speaker 1: the fuck, I'm in my mind, I'm checking out at eighteen.
Speaker 1: I've done that, job's done. See you later, spread your wings.
Speaker 1: I'll see you for Sunday lunch.
Speaker 2: Exactly. I think because naturally people when you have a child.
Speaker 2: They go, oh, eighteen, here's a headier, and you're like, okay, yeah, alright,
Speaker 2: well I'm at eleven now, so I'm just counting I
Speaker 2: can do that.
Speaker 1: And then when people then start throwing twenties.
Speaker 2: Twenty five, I'm like, no, thirty, why is your child
Speaker 2: still at home? They're forty three.
Speaker 1: I have mom for having despair. This is something I
Speaker 1: feel like everyone relates to. This is not just a
Speaker 1: me thing, but this is kids having any kind of
Speaker 1: urgency to get anywhere unless it's something that they want
Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, I was going to say, and even then,
Speaker 1: if you've booked them in for like a play center
Speaker 1: or a birthday party or some sort of fun activity,
Speaker 1: there's a time you have to be there. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: sure they're still not racing out the door with their
Speaker 1: shoes on and everything ready ten minutes before we have
Speaker 1: to go. That doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: It's a mom thing. That's a mom thing. That's what
Speaker 2: they say. My two are like, oh, that's a mom thing.
Speaker 2: Like I'm doing me, But that's a mom thing. You've
Speaker 2: got to organize that part. I already told you four
Speaker 2: times that we've got to leave at this time. If
Speaker 2: you want to be there, and how much more is
Speaker 2: that a month thing? I know, but rag Mine a fifteen.
Speaker 1: They're going to be sixteen in a few months time.
Speaker 1: And there was an incident the other day where Jay
Speaker 1: had to get to work a little bit earlier than usual,
Speaker 1: so he said, we just need to leave for school
Speaker 1: ten minutes early, ten minutes range.
Speaker 2: It's not hard, quite achievable.
Speaker 1: He got so stressed on that trip to school and
Speaker 1: then work that he ended up saying to them, right,
Speaker 1: that's it. You're getting the bus to school every day
Speaker 1: this week. And you're getting the bus to school every
Speaker 1: day this week. Because and we talk about, you know,
Speaker 1: throwing the multiple punishments out, it wasn't just that. It
Speaker 1: was you're getting yourself up in the morning. I'm not
Speaker 1: even getting up.
Speaker 2: You're getting up.
Speaker 1: You're getting up, you're getting yourself sorted, you're feeding the animals,
Speaker 1: you're walking to the bus stop, and you're getting on
Speaker 1: the bus. And that's what you need to do every morning.
Speaker 1: Because this morning was not enjoyable because I needed to
Speaker 1: get to work a little bit early. We needed to
Speaker 1: leave ten minutes early. It wasn't much to us. No,
Speaker 1: Jay will wake them up at seven. It's not an
Speaker 1: early time, right, you have seven. He wakes them up
Speaker 1: at seven. They lay in bed till seven thirty. We're
Speaker 1: both at them probably about five times in that space
Speaker 1: of half an hour. Get up, get up, get up.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's a long time just laying though.
Speaker 1: Then there's a race to get ready to leave at
Speaker 1: ten to eight.
Speaker 2: That's fair enough, Like you've just given yourself twenty minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you've given you minute. Not my problem.
Speaker 1: What actually happened is so throw that out there. And
Speaker 1: then there was a situation, I think in the afternoon.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, absolutely, I want this amount of
Speaker 1: time for you to get ready, and we're leaving it
Speaker 1: this time, and I'm not going to remind you. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to throw out any reminders. Literally, they had
Speaker 1: enough time, started getting ready. It was all going great,
Speaker 1: and then before the shoes went on, merely sits down
Speaker 1: on the lounge and next to herself for I've got
Speaker 1: all this time now, like I'm ready, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 1: It's all good, everyone's going to be happy. But yet
Speaker 1: she sits there and starts scrolling on her phone. So
Speaker 1: then there's a mad rush at the end, still to go.
Speaker 1: We need to leave right this second. Hang on for
Speaker 1: a sec. She's like, finishing off whatever message she's sending
Speaker 1: a friend. I'm like, no, not hang on a second,
Speaker 1: because you started off well.
Speaker 2: The intent was there.
Speaker 1: Then you start scrolling and as we know, screens they
Speaker 1: turn kids into like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, horrible, horrible, horrible things. I can't get them, just
Speaker 2: like the adults. They do the same thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but my thing is, at what point do we
Speaker 1: go okay?
Speaker 2: Cool?
Speaker 1: They understand it because we know we've got phones, we
Speaker 1: like to scroll, we get distracted. However, you know what
Speaker 1: time you need to be at work?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: You're not late to work, are you? And this is
Speaker 1: talking about you everything late to work.
Speaker 2: It is the one thing I can't be late for
Speaker 2: because otherwise I've got people standing there waiting for me,
Speaker 2: and I hate that. But at the same time.
Speaker 1: So you've got pride in your job, I know you
Speaker 1: have to be there.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't want to be rushed either
Speaker 2: with that sort of stuff, Like with work. I don't
Speaker 2: want to be rushed to go like frazzled and out
Speaker 2: of breath and then kicking off the day like that.
Speaker 2: That's just not what I do. But at the same time. Yes,
Speaker 2: in terms of real like just me just not work,
Speaker 2: but me, yeah, I tend to run about ten minutes
Speaker 2: late for majority of things. That's not really from scrolling,
Speaker 2: that's just but they're planning.
Speaker 1: But I would say that stuff that isn't necessarily no urgent,
Speaker 1: like lunches, you're going to lose your job by you know,
Speaker 1: and most people don't mind, and all the rest of it.
Speaker 1: And everyone's kind of in the same boat. But my
Speaker 1: thing as well was when we were on holiday is
Speaker 1: I said to the girls one night we had a
Speaker 1: flight to get to the next day, so we had
Speaker 1: to get to the airport, as we know as adults, right,
Speaker 1: and they should know, they should understand as teenagers. Flights
Speaker 1: don't wait for you.
Speaker 2: They don't.
Speaker 1: Oh that makes me, you need to be at the
Speaker 1: airport at a certain time. And so I said to
Speaker 1: them the night before we were flying, I said, okay,
Speaker 1: this evening, before you touch any laptops, TVs, phones, whatever
Speaker 1: it may be, you pack your bags so that you
Speaker 1: just have what you need for the morning, which you
Speaker 1: can then throw in and get out the door. At
Speaker 1: this time, I got my own bag packed, Jay got
Speaker 1: his bag packed. We're also doing the communal stuff. For
Speaker 1: some reason, we bought freaking inflatables for the pool, which
Speaker 1: were which were full of air, and so you know
Speaker 1: when you just like you're in such like I was
Speaker 1: super organized with it, like my bags were packed, everything
Speaker 1: was done, but it just ended up being a last
Speaker 1: minute stress. I'd left them open overnight so that the
Speaker 1: air could come out of them, but then there was
Speaker 1: the last minute, like I was sweating, raged on it,
Speaker 1: squeeze the air and roll of these and then trying
Speaker 1: to fit them in the luggage because our bags were
Speaker 1: just not being enough for the ship we brought back.
Speaker 1: And I walk into their room and they're sat on
Speaker 1: their phones, and I go, guys, are you ready? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're ready. Yeah, they're so chilled.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're ready.
Speaker 1: I'm like, but what about all the stuff in the
Speaker 1: bathroom that's still there. You haven't done the bat Oh
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, no, we'll just grab the toilet trees. But
Speaker 1: they're finishing off what they're doing on the phone. I'm like, no, now,
Speaker 1: now that stuff.
Speaker 2: Needs to be in there.
Speaker 1: Then they've put the stuff in a suitcase where the
Speaker 1: zip was broken, which we were actually going to leave
Speaker 1: that suitcase there We're going to get rid of that suitcase.
Speaker 1: We'd had the conversation about putting stuff in the other
Speaker 1: luggage that we had, because that is all in there,
Speaker 1: so I've got to take it all out of there
Speaker 1: and put it in. I was so stressed, so stressed,
Speaker 1: and I got in that uber to get to the
Speaker 1: airport and I went, I don't understand at what age
Speaker 1: we get to the point where there's some kind of
Speaker 1: urgency about where you got to get to.
Speaker 2: It will happen when they miss something. It'll happen when
Speaker 2: they do not have you there and they miss something,
Speaker 2: and there's nothing worse than missing a flight, or there's
Speaker 2: nothing worse than needing to be on a bus and
Speaker 2: missing it and you've got no one else to blame.
Speaker 2: Mix up for yourself. I need a few of those.
Speaker 1: At this point when they're kids, like at least a
Speaker 1: your normal.
Speaker 2: This is the thing.
Speaker 1: At this age, it's actually impossible for you to enforce
Speaker 1: that message because you can't be late for the flight
Speaker 1: because you're I'm fucking baying.
Speaker 2: For the next And that's the other thing that I
Speaker 2: was trying to have, Like in my head, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: what do we do? We went to Sydney not long ago,
Speaker 2: the girls and I. Our flight in the morning was
Speaker 2: something like ten thirty, so we had to be there
Speaker 2: by nine thirty, so then our transfer was to us
Speaker 2: but nine so then you're okay, Like it was an
Speaker 2: okay morning. But my whole conversation with the girls was
Speaker 2: pack your bag tonight, leave your clothes on the out.
Speaker 2: Then in the morning, all you have to do is
Speaker 2: if you have a shower or you don't, whatever, your
Speaker 2: clothes are going straight on, your pajamas are going straight
Speaker 2: in your bag. We're ready to roll. You're not going
Speaker 2: to miss out on your My kids, you know they
Speaker 2: love a buffet. I don't know. I don't get it.
Speaker 2: Your kids used to love a buffet or you did,
Speaker 2: but the kids wouldn't eat. My kids go and eat
Speaker 2: and I don't eat enough. So it's like they loved it.
Speaker 2: And I said, well, if you want that, so that's
Speaker 2: the reward. If you want the buffet and you want that,
Speaker 2: you have to do your bags tonight because we will
Speaker 2: not have enough time. But they were quite responsive to
Speaker 2: the reward of the buffet and not missing out of
Speaker 2: the buffet. Their eyes is light up.
Speaker 1: So that's like that my eyes light up when I
Speaker 1: see a buffet.
Speaker 2: I was like, somebody, just get me along. Black police
Speaker 2: has been anyway. They did exceptionally well under the pressure
Speaker 2: of that, but there was a reward in it. You know,
Speaker 2: you've got made. What the reward is, I don't know.
Speaker 2: They just don't care. Take the phones off them, you're
Speaker 2: not allowed to have them. I do do that a lot.
Speaker 1: I know it sounds like I don't. I do. I
Speaker 1: do take the phones off a lot.
Speaker 2: They're just at that age, Katie. Yeah, they're just gonna
Speaker 2: have to learn from their own.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they know I'm not going to not.
Speaker 2: Make one hundred percent, and they know that you're going
Speaker 2: to come in and rip around in the last twenty
Speaker 2: five minutes and save everyone's asses because you are in Hawaii.
Speaker 2: But maybe like whenever you go on that next trip,
Speaker 2: I don't know where you're going to go, but you'd
Speaker 2: be willing to leave them there. Maybe the sunshine goes No,
Speaker 2: just from that, get the bus home, or they've caught
Speaker 2: the train up there before there's a train home.
Speaker 1: And they said to me the other day because I
Speaker 1: threatened the other day, I was like, you could just
Speaker 1: get out of the bus, and they went, we don't
Speaker 1: ever go card like, looks at me like real smartness,
Speaker 1: don't ever go Coti. Don't you worry.
Speaker 2: I'll get you on. And it's fifty cents now, isn't
Speaker 2: it fifty cents now? They can travel for fifty cents
Speaker 2: per ride, even cheaper than to fuel. Katie, get them
Speaker 2: on the bus. Yeah, don't worry. I love it when
Speaker 2: they're on the bus. Yeah, thoroughly.
Speaker 1: In fact, I've been known to drop them off the
Speaker 1: bus stuff and go, don't worry. You haven't got a
Speaker 1: go card?
Speaker 2: You ever got money?
Speaker 1: But that's fine because they're not allowed to leave kids
Speaker 1: at bus stops anymore.
Speaker 2: Bye, have a great day. How'd you put your window up?