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Speaker 1: Apod Shape Production. Welcome back to another episode of Am

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Speaker 1: I A Bad Mum Podcasts? The question we constantly ask

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Speaker 1: when I start these. I think back to when we

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Speaker 1: first started this podcast, and I was like, it's been

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Speaker 1: years and we have still got content.

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Speaker 2: I always drive here, Katie, and you always go you

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Speaker 2: got some content?

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Speaker 3: You know, like what have you got and what?

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Speaker 2: Like? We sit in, we debrief and half the time

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Speaker 2: I'm still in a yeah. I mean I've got plenty,

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Speaker 2: Like so much shit actually went down in the last

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Speaker 2: week that life becomes a blur. Kids just are the

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Speaker 2: gifts that just keep on giving. I like to sayda,

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Speaker 2: seven days week, three hundred and sixty five days a year,

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Speaker 2: and then count down the until they're what, oh well,

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Speaker 2: people say eighteen, Oh you're staying there thirty.

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Speaker 1: Someone this morning said to me I was talking about teenagers,

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Speaker 1: and they were like, oh, yeah, it gets better when

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Speaker 1: they're about, you know, early twenties. I was like, what

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Speaker 1: the fuck, I'm in my mind, I'm checking out at eighteen.

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Speaker 1: I've done that, job's done. See you later, spread your wings.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you for Sunday lunch.

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Speaker 3: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: I think because naturally people when you have a child.

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Speaker 3: They go, oh, eighteen, here's a headier.

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Speaker 2: And you're like, okay, yeah, alright, well I'm at eleven now,

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Speaker 2: so I'm just counting.

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Speaker 3: I can do that.

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Speaker 1: And then when people then start throwing twenties.

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Speaker 3: Twenty five, I'm like, no, thirty, why is your child

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Speaker 3: still at home? They're forty three.

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Speaker 1: I have mom for having despair. This is something I

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Speaker 1: feel like everyone relates to. This is not just a

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Speaker 1: me thing, but this is kids having any kind of

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Speaker 1: urgency to get anywhere unless it's something that they want

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Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, I was going to say, and even then,

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Speaker 1: if you've booked them in for like a play center

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Speaker 1: or a birthday party or some sort of fun activity,

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Speaker 1: there's a time you have to be there. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure they're still not racing out the door with their

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Speaker 1: shoes on and everything ready ten minutes before we have

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Speaker 1: to go. That doesn't happen.

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Speaker 3: It's a mom thing. That's a mom thing.

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Speaker 2: That's what they say. My two are like, oh, that's

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Speaker 2: a mom thing. Like I'm doing me, But that's a

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Speaker 2: mom thing. You've got to organize that part. I already

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Speaker 2: told you four times that we've got to leave at

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Speaker 2: this time.

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Speaker 3: If you want to be there, and how much more

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Speaker 3: is that a month thing? I know, but rag Mine

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Speaker 3: a fifteen.

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Speaker 1: They're going to be sixteen in a few months time.

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Speaker 1: And there was an incident the other day where Jay

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Speaker 1: had to get to work a little bit earlier than usual,

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Speaker 1: so he said, we just need to leave for school

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Speaker 1: ten minutes early, ten minutes range.

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Speaker 3: It's not hard, quite achievable.

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Speaker 1: He got so stressed on that trip to school and

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Speaker 1: then work that he ended up saying to them, right,

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Speaker 1: that's it. You're getting the bus to school every day

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Speaker 1: this week. And you're getting the bus to school every

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Speaker 1: day this week. Because and we talk about, you know,

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Speaker 1: throwing the multiple punishments out, it wasn't just that. It

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Speaker 1: was you're getting yourself up in the morning. I'm not

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Speaker 1: even getting up.

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Speaker 3: You're getting up.

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Speaker 1: You're getting up, you're getting yourself sorted, you're feeding the animals,

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Speaker 1: you're walking to the bus stop, and you're getting on

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Speaker 1: the bus. And that's what you need to do every morning.

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Speaker 1: Because this morning was not enjoyable because I needed to

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Speaker 1: get to work a little bit early. We needed to

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Speaker 1: leave ten minutes early. It wasn't much to us. No,

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Speaker 1: Jay will wake them up at seven. It's not an

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Speaker 1: early time, right, you have seven. He wakes them up

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Speaker 1: at seven. They lay in bed till seven thirty. We're

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's a long time just laying though.

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Speaker 1: Then there's a race to get ready to leave at

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Speaker 3: That's fair enough, Like you've just given yourself twenty minutes. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you've given you minute. Not my problem.

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Speaker 1: What actually happened is so throw that out there. And

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Speaker 1: then there was a situation, I think in the afternoon.

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Speaker 1: I was like, no, absolutely, I want this amount of

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Speaker 1: not going to throw out any reminders. Literally, they had

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Speaker 1: It's all good, everyone's going to be happy. But yet

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Speaker 1: she sits there and starts scrolling on her phone. So

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Speaker 1: then there's a mad rush at the end, still to go.

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Speaker 1: We need to leave right this second. Hang on for

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Speaker 1: a sec. She's like, finishing off whatever message she's sending

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Speaker 1: a friend. I'm like, no, not hang on a second,

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Speaker 1: because you started off well.

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Speaker 3: The intent was there.

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Speaker 1: Then you start scrolling and as we know, screens they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, horrible, horrible, horrible things. I can't get them, just

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Speaker 3: like the adults. They do the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but my thing is, at what point do we

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Speaker 3: Cool?

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Speaker 1: They understand it because we know we've got phones, we

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Speaker 1: like to scroll, we get distracted. However, you know what

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Speaker 1: time you need to be at work?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: You're not late to work, are you? And this is

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Speaker 3: It is the one thing.

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Speaker 2: I can't be late for because otherwise I've got people

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Speaker 2: standing there waiting for me, and I hate that.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time.

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Speaker 1: So you've got pride in your job, I know you

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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't want to be rushed either

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Speaker 2: with that sort of stuff, Like with work. I don't

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Speaker 3: And then kicking off the day like that. That's just

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Speaker 3: not what I do.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time. Yes, in terms of real

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Speaker 2: like just me just not work, but me, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: That's not really from scrolling, that's just but they're planning.

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Speaker 1: But I would say that stuff that isn't necessarily no urgent,

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Speaker 1: like lunches, you're going to lose your job by you know,

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Speaker 1: and most people don't mind, and all the rest of it.

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Speaker 1: And everyone's kind of in the same boat. But my

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Speaker 1: I said to the girls one night we had a

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Speaker 1: to get to the airport, as we know as adults, right,

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Speaker 1: and they should know, they should understand as teenagers. Flights

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Speaker 3: They don't.

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Speaker 1: Oh that makes me, you need to be at the

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Speaker 1: airport at a certain time. And so I said to

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Speaker 1: it may be, you pack your bags so that you

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Speaker 1: just have what you need for the morning, which you

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Speaker 1: can then throw in and get out the door. At

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Speaker 1: this time, I got my own bag packed, Jay got

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Speaker 1: when you just like you're in such like I was

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Speaker 1: And I walk into their room and they're sat on

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Speaker 1: their phones, and I go, guys, are you ready? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're ready. Yeah, they're so chilled.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, but what about all the stuff in the

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Speaker 1: they're finishing off what they're doing on the phone. I'm like, no, now,

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Speaker 3: Needs to be in there.

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Speaker 1: Then they've put the stuff in a suitcase where the

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Speaker 1: that suitcase there We're going to get rid of that suitcase.

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Speaker 1: We'd had the conversation about putting stuff in the other

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Speaker 2: It will happen when they miss something. It'll happen when

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Speaker 2: they do not have you there and they miss something,

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Speaker 2: and there's nothing worse than missing a flight, or there's

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Speaker 3: You've got no one else to blame. Mix up for yourself.

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Speaker 3: I need a few of those.

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Speaker 1: At this point when they're kids, like at least a

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Speaker 3: This is the thing.

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Speaker 1: At this age, it's actually impossible for you to enforce

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Speaker 1: because you're I'm fucking baying.

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Speaker 2: For the next And that's the other thing that I

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Speaker 3: We went to Sydney not long ago, the girls and I.

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Speaker 2: Our flight in the morning was something like ten thirty,

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Speaker 2: so we had to be there by nine thirty, so

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Speaker 2: then our transfer was to us but nine so then

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Speaker 2: you're okay.

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Speaker 3: Like it was an okay morning.

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Speaker 2: But my whole conversation with the girls was pack your

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Speaker 2: have a shower or you don't, whatever, your clothes are

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Speaker 3: We're ready to roll. You're not going to miss out

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Speaker 3: on your My kids, you know they love a buffet.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: Your kids used to love a buffet or you did,

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Speaker 2: but the kids wouldn't eat. My kids go and eat

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Speaker 2: and I don't eat enough. So it's like they loved it.

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Speaker 2: And I said, well, if you want that, so that's

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Speaker 2: the reward. If you want the buffet and you want that,

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Speaker 2: not have enough time.

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Speaker 3: But they were quite.

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Speaker 2: Responsive to the reward of the buffet and not missing

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Speaker 3: Their eyes is light up.

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Speaker 1: So that's like that my eyes light up when I

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Speaker 3: I was like, somebody, just get me along. Black police

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Speaker 2: They did exceptionally well under the pressure of that, but

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Speaker 3: You know, you've got made. What the reward is, I

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Speaker 1: They just don't care.

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Speaker 3: Take the phones off them, you're not allowed to have them.

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Speaker 3: I do do that a lot.

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Speaker 1: I know it sounds like I don't. I do. I

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Speaker 3: They're just at that age, Katie. Yeah, they're just gonna

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because they know I'm not going to not.

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Speaker 2: Make one hundred percent, and they know that you're going

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Speaker 3: Are in Hawaii.

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Speaker 2: But maybe like whenever you go on that next trip,

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Speaker 2: I don't know where you're going to go, but you'd

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Speaker 3: Maybe the sunshine goes No, just from that.

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Speaker 2: Get the bus home, or they've caught the train up

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Speaker 1: And they said to me the other day because I

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Speaker 1: don't ever go Coti. Don't you worry.

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Speaker 2: I'll get you on. And it's fifty cents now, isn't

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Speaker 2: it fifty cents now? They can travel for fifty cents

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Speaker 2: per ride, even cheaper than to fuel. Katie, get them

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Speaker 3: Yeah, don't worry. I love it when they're on the bus. Yeah, thoroughly.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I've been known to drop them off the

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Speaker 1: bus stuff and go, don't worry. You haven't got a

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Speaker 1: go card?

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Speaker 3: You ever got money?

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Speaker 1: But that's fine because they're not allowed to leave kids

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Speaker 1: at bus stops anymore.

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Speaker 3: Bye, have a great day. How'd you put your window up?