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Speaker 1: A warning for listeners that this series contains graphic details,

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Speaker 1: including references to murder and rape. I'm standing in front

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Speaker 1: of the Melworn Magistrate's Court and it was inside a

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Speaker 1: courtroom here last year where Perry Krumblus was told in

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Speaker 1: Susan Bartlett that he would be standing trial for their murders.

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Speaker 1: Susanne's sister, Gail Armstrong came all the way down from

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Speaker 1: the country to be there for every single day of

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Speaker 1: that process to look at Perry face to face as

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Speaker 1: a magistrate heard all the evidence and Perry's defense that

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Speaker 1: court was also where we learned a lot more about

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Speaker 1: the people in the two sus lives and about the

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Speaker 1: sort of world they were living in forty eight years ago.

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Speaker 2: This is Victoria's most serious cold case and longest cold case.

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Speaker 2: Seven years after the Easy Street double murders, charges have

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Speaker 2: finally been laid.

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Speaker 3: Today right now the main suspect in one of us

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Speaker 3: Straight's most notorious double murder cold cases.

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Speaker 4: This is in the air on a flight back to Melbourne.

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Speaker 2: Perry Currumble East Front in court today charge with two

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Speaker 2: counts of murder and one count of rape.

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Speaker 1: My name is Olivia Jenkins and I'm a crime reporter

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Speaker 1: at the Herald's Sun and this is Hunting Justice. The

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Speaker 1: Easy Street Murders in this series will take you behind

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Speaker 1: the murder investigation and the grueling DNA search to find

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Speaker 1: Susanne and Susan's killer. We'll take you through more about

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Speaker 1: what was said at Perry Korumblus's committal hearing next episode,

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Speaker 1: but for now we need to tell you about the

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Speaker 1: Melbourne that the two suits found themselves in the late

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Speaker 1: seventies and the home they set up on Easy Street.

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Speaker 3: Good Welcome to the viewers right throughout Australia.

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Speaker 5: Greg the captain of North Melbourne, has won Natasha and

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Speaker 5: they're kicking to the eastern end of the your umpires

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Speaker 5: for the seventy.

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Speaker 6: Six Grand Final.

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Speaker 1: In January nineteen seventy seven, Hawthorne fans were still celebrating

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Speaker 1: the Victorian Football League Grand Final win over North Melbourne.

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Speaker 1: We've discussed the and Malcolm Fraser had just been re

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Speaker 1: elected for another term as Australia's Prime Minister.

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Speaker 6: North South issues, Abba.

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Speaker 1: Alton, John and Queen are all dominating the Aussie music

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Speaker 1: charts and.

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Speaker 3: Nice to sing in the shower like in my mom

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Speaker 3: and say fine, if you can't sing proper songs, shut up,

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Speaker 3: you know, don't sing this rock and roll guy.

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Speaker 1: Ac DC are just over three years into their journey

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Speaker 1: to becoming one of the most iconic Australian rock bands

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Speaker 1: of all time, and Skyhook's is taking off two and

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Speaker 1: it's hot the peak of Australian summer temperatures are reaching

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Speaker 1: a scorching thirty five degrees celsius. By then, Susanne Armstrong

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Speaker 1: and Susan Bartlett had settled into their new neighborhood. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't fancy by any means. It was a largely working

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Speaker 1: it was mostly made up of migrants from Greece, Italy,

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Speaker 7: He walked around like a little bit hunched or something

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Speaker 1: That's Kate Buck. She owned a vintage clothing store in

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Speaker 1: the middle of Collingwood in the late seventies. And you'll

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Speaker 1: hear more from her soon. But the boy she's talking

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Speaker 1: about is Perry Carumblus, the man charged over the Easy

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Speaker 1: Street murders, and he and the two sus were living

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Speaker 3: Those in a suburbs VIC Troy and Collingwood and Abbatude

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Speaker 6: They were pretty rough and tough seventies and there were

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a large number of the criminal classes lived around

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Speaker 6: A lot of those guys carried knives.

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Speaker 1: That's betchuing crime writer and podcaster Andrew Rule.

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Speaker 3: It is said by some that there was nothing you

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Speaker 6: Whatever, just a black mine. It was a big black

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Speaker 3: It was a pretty rough, tough place, and there are

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Speaker 1: By the late seventies, Andrew had been working in newspapers

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Speaker 6: It was a tough time in the seventies.

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Speaker 3: There were gangs of skinheads and sharps and all the

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Speaker 3: I mean, we've got gangs now, but we had gangs then.

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Speaker 3: We had the Lebanese Tigers, and we had the Broady boys,

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Speaker 3: And I led him dances because they know they always

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Speaker 1: Andrew was also a lot closer to this case than

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Speaker 3: Funnily enough, I found out recently that the Armstrong Susan Armstrong,

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Speaker 3: My aged mother told me that her mother, my granny,

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Speaker 3: Her parents were mister and missus I think Bob Armstrong,

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Speaker 1: Andrew says the streets were a lot meaner by the

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Speaker 1: in the seventies, and in that era, women my age

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Speaker 3: If you'd been your age walking around the streets of

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Speaker 6: It was sort of what happened. It was very different.

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Speaker 3: You know, when women walk past building sites in those days,

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Speaker 1: But Collingwood's a bit different now. Years of gentrification have

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Speaker 6: Collingwood in nineteen seventy seven.

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Speaker 3: I remember it well because it's about the time I

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Speaker 6: But they were buying what had.

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Speaker 3: Been essentially sort of slums or houses owned by bull

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Speaker 1: Them while Susanne picked up odd jobs. Susan went back

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Speaker 1: to work at the Collingwood Education Center, which you heard

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Speaker 1: long history. It was originally established in eighteen eighty two,

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Speaker 1: dating back to the nineteen fifties. The school only taught

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Speaker 1: when everyone was moved into twenty six portable classrooms in

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Speaker 1: were a mix of Ossie's Greek and other European heritage,

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Speaker 1: and some of them tell me they could never forget

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Speaker 5: When she first became our teacher, we thought, my gosh,

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Speaker 5: that she's spending all the time with the Greek girls,

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Speaker 5: but they were really enthusiastic and you know, compliant and everything.

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Speaker 1: We'll call this student Mary. She wanted to talk about

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Speaker 1: her time as one of Miss Bartlett's students, but we're

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Speaker 1: not using her real name to protect her privacy because

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Speaker 5: This school was magnificent. It was like a state of

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Speaker 5: the art and we didn't realize when that we were.

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Speaker 5: It was a sort of like a pilot program because

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Speaker 5: our school was not like any other school in Melbourne.

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Speaker 1: From what Mary says, though, Miss Bartlett was one of

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Speaker 1: when well, not all of them were, to say the least, there.

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Speaker 5: Was parties with the teachers and the students from this school.

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Speaker 1: Teachers and students together, yes, in Collingwood.

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Speaker 1: Students very different times.

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Speaker 5: A lot of students didn't like Susan Barlotte. Why do

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Speaker 5: And we just sat there and did nothing like just chatting,

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Speaker 5: One day she said, we're going to make a patchwork quilt,

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Speaker 1: Mary could tell you just about anything you'd want to

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Speaker 5: Somebody put a photo up of him in a cafe

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Speaker 5: I start at seventy five and it wasn't.

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Speaker 5: We moved to this school seventy five, but I can't

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Speaker 1: There have been reports over the years that Perry attended

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Speaker 1: Remember Kate Buck from earlier, She can recall Collingwood's rough

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Speaker 7: We sold a lot of handmade punk to clothes, which

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Speaker 7: In seventy nine and eighty. We had fanzines, like homemade photo.

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Speaker 7: That we kind of cut up and died. It was

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Speaker 7: And we also lived lived out the back of the

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Speaker 1: And it was in this world, in the heart of

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Speaker 1: Kate recognized his look instantly.

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Speaker 7: But the black guys it was kind of stopped, these

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Speaker 1: It was Perry Krumblus who had walked into her store.

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Speaker 7: By the I was more moved on to punk, but yeah,

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Speaker 7: he definitely stood out with his connies and his drug

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Speaker 7: Well, he was a sharpie, which was a peculiar style

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Speaker 1: The Sharpies were a well known homegrown youth subculture that

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Speaker 4: Play and it was just kind of like a big gang.

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Speaker 7: In every suburb they had their own gang of sharpies

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Speaker 1: That standout style of Perry's is what still sticks in

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Speaker 4: There was a stripey, very tight woolen cardigan maybe gray

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Speaker 4: like nobody else wore those cardigans. It was a specific

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Speaker 1: And why did his face stick out to you? Following

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Speaker 1: I recognized that face, the black eyes.

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Speaker 7: It was kind of just go, these hooded eyes like

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Speaker 1: Two blocks away from where Kate would open her store,

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Speaker 1: the Sioux's Easy Street place sat as a white, narrow

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Speaker 1: They were known as popular and outgoing girls who often

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Speaker 3: The house had been visited over time, over weeks and

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Speaker 3: had just not long left school. He'd known Susan Butler

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Speaker 3: sure if Bernie actually went to Broadford High for a

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Speaker 3: He left his school jumper that he still had at

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Speaker 1: Those visitors also became fuel for vicious gossip.

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Speaker 2: From what I heard in the brief time I had

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Speaker 1: That was my colleague Anthony Dowsley. You'll be hearing more

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Speaker 1: Alona Stevens lived with her housemate Janet Powell, who part

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Speaker 6: Was a real shock.

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Speaker 8: To imagine people that I knew we were in that situation

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