1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,801 Speaker 1: Apologie Production. 2 00:00:11,521 --> 00:00:14,481 Speaker 2: Growing Glows Twelve Days of Christmas. 3 00:00:14,521 --> 00:00:16,601 Speaker 3: Hello everybody, welcome back to Growing Glow. 4 00:00:16,681 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: Yet another twelve days of Christmas, and today is very sexy. 5 00:00:20,401 --> 00:00:23,281 Speaker 2: I'm talking to a sexologist, which I know so many 6 00:00:23,321 --> 00:00:26,441 Speaker 2: of you have requested and asked for so long, and 7 00:00:26,961 --> 00:00:28,721 Speaker 2: we have the beautiful Kiki coming on today. 8 00:00:28,761 --> 00:00:30,121 Speaker 3: So welcome to the show. 9 00:00:30,481 --> 00:00:33,201 Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you for having me. Happy to be here. 10 00:00:33,361 --> 00:00:34,801 Speaker 2: I'd love for you to just tell us a little 11 00:00:34,801 --> 00:00:36,921 Speaker 2: bit about who you are and the kind of work 12 00:00:36,921 --> 00:00:39,161 Speaker 2: that you do, and maybe more specifically who you do 13 00:00:39,281 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: work with as well. 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:45,001 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I am as you mentioned as sexologists. I 15 00:00:45,241 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: just realized it's coming up to my businesses ten a 16 00:00:48,001 --> 00:00:49,281 Speaker 1: year birthday next year. 17 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,161 Speaker 4: So I've been well in the fool. Yeah, I've been 18 00:00:52,241 --> 00:00:52,881 Speaker 4: in the field for. 19 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,361 Speaker 1: A while now and the thing that I guess lights 20 00:00:56,401 --> 00:00:57,761 Speaker 1: me up the most is. 21 00:00:57,681 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 4: Getting people to feel comfortable and confident in their bodies, in. 22 00:01:03,321 --> 00:01:08,481 Speaker 1: Their desires, in communicating what their desires are, and just yeah, 23 00:01:08,521 --> 00:01:10,761 Speaker 1: showing up authentically in their sexuality. 24 00:01:10,961 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 4: However, the thing that takes up most of my. 25 00:01:13,161 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: Time at the moment is my school. I teach people 26 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,281 Speaker 1: to become Semitic sex coaches. And therapeutic. You're only massage practitioners, 27 00:01:20,961 --> 00:01:23,761 Speaker 1: so I have a bunch of students at any one time, 28 00:01:23,961 --> 00:01:26,761 Speaker 1: and that's where most of my focus goes. But I 29 00:01:26,801 --> 00:01:30,241 Speaker 1: still love one on one sessions. I love doing retreats 30 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: and workshops and yeah, that's just a little bit about me. 31 00:01:33,521 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 4: I love talking about it. 32 00:01:34,681 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: I love normalizing sexuality and having these conversations that are 33 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: a little bit tricky for us in a sex negative society. 34 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,361 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I didn't realize how much you did. 35 00:01:44,401 --> 00:01:47,321 Speaker 2: That's so freaking cool. And like a retreat, what happens 36 00:01:47,321 --> 00:01:48,921 Speaker 2: at a retreat based around this. 37 00:01:49,241 --> 00:01:52,801 Speaker 1: There will be some embodiment practices, getting people to feel 38 00:01:53,161 --> 00:01:56,761 Speaker 1: comfortable in their bodies, regulating their nervous system, getting them 39 00:01:56,801 --> 00:01:59,281 Speaker 1: to feel nice and safe. We might do things like 40 00:01:59,961 --> 00:02:05,361 Speaker 1: drawing our volva, or orgasmic breath work, or nudio yoga 41 00:02:05,761 --> 00:02:10,281 Speaker 1: or a yoni casting, or the possibilities that endless. It 42 00:02:10,321 --> 00:02:12,561 Speaker 1: really depends on what's lighting me up in the moment 43 00:02:12,721 --> 00:02:16,321 Speaker 1: and what people are wanting to explore and experience. 44 00:02:16,921 --> 00:02:17,761 Speaker 3: So beautiful. 45 00:02:17,761 --> 00:02:20,201 Speaker 2: I actually had a yoni massage, my first one booked 46 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,561 Speaker 2: in but I'm on blood thinness because I had brain 47 00:02:22,601 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: surgery this year, and I was drue for my period, 48 00:02:24,881 --> 00:02:27,161 Speaker 2: so I've had to postpone it. But I've recently just 49 00:02:27,201 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: been learning about it, and it's just seems so incredible 50 00:02:30,481 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: how healing it can be for women to have a 51 00:02:32,841 --> 00:02:33,881 Speaker 2: beautiful YEARNI massage. 52 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 3: That's really cool that that's a part of the work 53 00:02:35,441 --> 00:02:36,201 Speaker 3: you do as well. 54 00:02:36,481 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I think one of the most like potent 55 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,721 Speaker 1: somatic experiences that people can have in reclaiming their body 56 00:02:44,881 --> 00:02:48,441 Speaker 1: and really understanding what their yes is, what their nose 57 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:55,081 Speaker 1: are and honoring that and yeah, also massaging out tension, pain, numbness, 58 00:02:55,121 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: and mapping out where their own unique pleasure profile is. 59 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,321 Speaker 1: So it is like, yeah, such an incredibly like direct 60 00:03:04,081 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: sort of streamline and really quick way to move through 61 00:03:07,401 --> 00:03:09,281 Speaker 1: a lot of blockages around sexuality. 62 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:10,761 Speaker 3: So freaking cool. 63 00:03:11,001 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: Now, when I came to you, I was like, there's 64 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,361 Speaker 2: so much we can talk about, but you gave me 65 00:03:15,401 --> 00:03:17,201 Speaker 2: a list of things that we could cover, and one 66 00:03:17,201 --> 00:03:20,641 Speaker 2: of them was desire types. So I know nothing about this, 67 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,881 Speaker 2: and I'm guessing a lot of my listeners don't either, 68 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,641 Speaker 2: So what is desire types? 69 00:03:25,361 --> 00:03:28,361 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is probably the reason I sort 70 00:03:28,401 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: of reached out with this topic is because it isn't 71 00:03:30,601 --> 00:03:34,801 Speaker 1: so well known. However, it is a game changer when 72 00:03:34,841 --> 00:03:38,521 Speaker 1: we start to understand what desire types are. So the 73 00:03:38,561 --> 00:03:42,001 Speaker 1: two different types that we speak about are responsive desire 74 00:03:42,081 --> 00:03:45,961 Speaker 1: and spontaneous desire. Spontaneous desire is sort of, you know, 75 00:03:46,041 --> 00:03:49,161 Speaker 1: in the name, it's spontaneously you feel the desire for sex, 76 00:03:49,201 --> 00:03:53,601 Speaker 1: which is the precursor to our sexual experiences, is actually 77 00:03:53,601 --> 00:03:56,041 Speaker 1: wanting to do it, you know. And it's something that 78 00:03:56,121 --> 00:03:57,961 Speaker 1: was really ignored for a really long time in the 79 00:03:57,961 --> 00:04:00,801 Speaker 1: field of sexuality, but in recent years it's become more 80 00:04:00,801 --> 00:04:04,001 Speaker 1: apparent that it's a really important part of our sexuality. 81 00:04:04,561 --> 00:04:08,361 Speaker 1: And some really lucky people they have spontaneous desire, or 82 00:04:08,401 --> 00:04:11,881 Speaker 1: they experience more spontaneous desire than a responsive desire, meaning 83 00:04:11,961 --> 00:04:14,121 Speaker 1: that kind of at the drop of the hat, out 84 00:04:14,161 --> 00:04:18,201 Speaker 1: of nowhere, they're just down for it whenever, wherever, a 85 00:04:18,241 --> 00:04:20,561 Speaker 1: lot of the time. Whereas, on the other hand, we 86 00:04:20,601 --> 00:04:24,161 Speaker 1: have responsive desire, which means a person needs to have 87 00:04:24,281 --> 00:04:29,201 Speaker 1: some kind of context or experience or feeling to respond 88 00:04:29,241 --> 00:04:31,681 Speaker 1: to to actually feel desire for sex. 89 00:04:32,401 --> 00:04:33,601 Speaker 4: And when we look. 90 00:04:33,481 --> 00:04:38,481 Speaker 1: At statistics, predominantly female bodied people have responsive desire, and 91 00:04:38,601 --> 00:04:42,841 Speaker 1: predominantly male bodied people have spontaneous desire. That's not the 92 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,481 Speaker 1: case all the time for everybody, or it's not always 93 00:04:45,481 --> 00:04:48,721 Speaker 1: the same for everybody throughout their entire sexual experience and 94 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,041 Speaker 1: history and life, but that's kind of what we see 95 00:04:52,121 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: and when we see sexuality demonstrated in pornography or on movies, 96 00:04:57,641 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: it's very much the go to is the spontaneous desire, 97 00:05:01,401 --> 00:05:03,561 Speaker 1: that there's this just kind of like cool, yeah, we're ready, 98 00:05:03,641 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: let's go for it. I feel like having sex just 99 00:05:05,681 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: because you do. Whereas that's just not always the case 100 00:05:08,961 --> 00:05:12,041 Speaker 1: a lot of the time, especially for female bodied people. 101 00:05:12,401 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: Then needs to be some kind of feeling, emotion, touch, context, yeah, 102 00:05:18,721 --> 00:05:22,081 Speaker 1: connection something. Maybe it might be massage, it might be bacticles, 103 00:05:22,121 --> 00:05:23,081 Speaker 1: it might be a. 104 00:05:23,001 --> 00:05:24,081 Speaker 4: Really clean room. 105 00:05:24,121 --> 00:05:27,241 Speaker 1: It might be that there's some kind of erotica playing 106 00:05:27,641 --> 00:05:32,241 Speaker 1: or some kind of initiation of erotic intimacy to be 107 00:05:32,281 --> 00:05:34,561 Speaker 1: able to respond to it and feel like, oh, actually, 108 00:05:34,641 --> 00:05:35,201 Speaker 1: I feel like. 109 00:05:35,201 --> 00:05:35,961 Speaker 4: Doing that now. 110 00:05:36,561 --> 00:05:39,841 Speaker 1: However, in the beginning of the relationship, usually speaking, because 111 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: where it's so loved up on neurochemicals, neurotransmitters, and hormones, 112 00:05:44,401 --> 00:05:48,361 Speaker 1: we are more likely to have spontaneous desire because our 113 00:05:48,401 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: sexual inhibitors are less sensitive, and so that's where we 114 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: can see it change from the beginning the honeymoon phase 115 00:05:55,601 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: slowly changed throughout the sexual cycle. However, a lot of people, 116 00:06:00,241 --> 00:06:03,361 Speaker 1: also male and female body people do tend to have 117 00:06:03,641 --> 00:06:07,801 Speaker 1: more responsive desire as they go through the long term relationship. 118 00:06:08,201 --> 00:06:12,041 Speaker 4: But our societal sort of messaging does sort of impact that. 119 00:06:12,001 --> 00:06:15,001 Speaker 1: In that male bodied people are expected to always want 120 00:06:15,001 --> 00:06:16,921 Speaker 1: to have sex, so that can sort of influence the 121 00:06:16,921 --> 00:06:18,401 Speaker 1: way that they show up in their sexuality. 122 00:06:18,481 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 4: So it's a little bit nuanced. 123 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,201 Speaker 1: There are different aspects there, but that's kind of the idea, 124 00:06:23,361 --> 00:06:25,841 Speaker 1: and the science behind desire types. 125 00:06:25,721 --> 00:06:28,601 Speaker 2: Makes so much sense. And as you're explaining this, I'm like, 126 00:06:28,921 --> 00:06:30,681 Speaker 2: I got a little bit jealous of those people that 127 00:06:30,761 --> 00:06:32,961 Speaker 2: are the spontaneous one. I would love to be that 128 00:06:33,201 --> 00:06:35,281 Speaker 2: just be like down for whenever. And I do have 129 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,601 Speaker 2: some girlfriends that I feel like are down for it whatever, 130 00:06:37,641 --> 00:06:40,361 Speaker 2: but most of my female friends it, Yeah, it takes 131 00:06:40,401 --> 00:06:41,601 Speaker 2: a lot of for play. There's got to be a 132 00:06:41,641 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: lot of connection, there would be a lot of safety. 133 00:06:43,361 --> 00:06:44,121 Speaker 3: The kids got to be. 134 00:06:44,081 --> 00:06:46,681 Speaker 2: In bed, there's got to be a clean house, the 135 00:06:46,841 --> 00:06:52,921 Speaker 2: mental loads off, like it's this quite a big list really, yeah, exactly, Yeah. 136 00:06:52,721 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: I'm the same grows. My husband has spontaneous to I. 137 00:06:56,161 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: So whenever wherever it's on the cards. 138 00:06:59,521 --> 00:07:03,441 Speaker 2: You just walk past and he's like, yep, ready, Oh 139 00:07:03,481 --> 00:07:07,681 Speaker 2: that's so funny. And there's desire discrepancy, So what is that. 140 00:07:08,361 --> 00:07:09,961 Speaker 4: Yes, that's a really good segue. 141 00:07:10,121 --> 00:07:13,361 Speaker 1: So for my partner and I, we have desire discrepancy, 142 00:07:13,841 --> 00:07:17,201 Speaker 1: probably because I have responsive desire and my partner has 143 00:07:17,721 --> 00:07:21,361 Speaker 1: spontaneous desire. There's that discrepancy there that my partner would 144 00:07:21,401 --> 00:07:24,321 Speaker 1: like to have sex multiple times a day if possible, 145 00:07:24,321 --> 00:07:26,961 Speaker 1: whereas for me it's not so often. So we see 146 00:07:27,081 --> 00:07:29,521 Speaker 1: in couples there might be one person that would like 147 00:07:29,521 --> 00:07:32,081 Speaker 1: to have sex, you know, three, four times a week 148 00:07:32,561 --> 00:07:34,121 Speaker 1: or every day, and then there are other people that 149 00:07:34,121 --> 00:07:36,321 Speaker 1: are happy to have sex one to two times a month, 150 00:07:36,481 --> 00:07:39,441 Speaker 1: and so there's a huge discrepancy there, which can cause 151 00:07:39,841 --> 00:07:41,841 Speaker 1: a lot of issues in a relationship when it comes 152 00:07:41,881 --> 00:07:45,681 Speaker 1: to sexuality, a lot of feelings of being rejected, not 153 00:07:45,761 --> 00:07:48,761 Speaker 1: feeling like there is intimacy or even the safety to 154 00:07:48,841 --> 00:07:52,321 Speaker 1: explore non penetrative intimacy, if you know, it feels like, 155 00:07:52,361 --> 00:07:54,041 Speaker 1: oh if I make out with my partner, then they're 156 00:07:54,041 --> 00:07:55,481 Speaker 1: just going to want to have sex, so I may 157 00:07:55,481 --> 00:07:56,721 Speaker 1: as well just not make out with them. 158 00:07:56,721 --> 00:07:58,641 Speaker 4: So it's not talked. 159 00:07:58,361 --> 00:08:01,201 Speaker 1: About, and there isn't a plan in the mix for 160 00:08:01,481 --> 00:08:04,961 Speaker 1: everybody to feel happy and safe to have intimacy and connection, 161 00:08:05,241 --> 00:08:08,401 Speaker 1: whatever that will look like for each individual couple. Then 162 00:08:08,521 --> 00:08:10,361 Speaker 1: it tends to sort of get swept under the rug 163 00:08:10,401 --> 00:08:14,241 Speaker 1: and these issues start to really evolve and really dominate 164 00:08:14,281 --> 00:08:17,761 Speaker 1: in the relationship and bring on issues that wouldn't necessarily 165 00:08:17,761 --> 00:08:19,801 Speaker 1: be there without the communication piece. 166 00:08:20,161 --> 00:08:22,241 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can see how if someone is wanting it 167 00:08:22,241 --> 00:08:23,961 Speaker 2: three four times a day or like a week or 168 00:08:24,001 --> 00:08:26,321 Speaker 2: whatever and they're not getting that, how they would feel rejected. 169 00:08:26,761 --> 00:08:28,121 Speaker 3: We'd talk about male to female. 170 00:08:28,121 --> 00:08:31,361 Speaker 2: If the female was more responsive, she doesn't then want 171 00:08:31,361 --> 00:08:33,401 Speaker 2: to Sorry, I'm gonna swear, but like pityfuck them all 172 00:08:33,401 --> 00:08:35,721 Speaker 2: the time, because then that wouldn't feel good for her 173 00:08:35,961 --> 00:08:38,561 Speaker 2: or for him. So how do couples like, how do 174 00:08:38,641 --> 00:08:40,441 Speaker 2: you help? I'm sure you have couples come and say 175 00:08:40,481 --> 00:08:43,121 Speaker 2: this exact situation. My husband wants it all the time. 176 00:08:43,321 --> 00:08:46,041 Speaker 2: I want it once a week. We're arguing. There's resentment 177 00:08:46,761 --> 00:08:48,801 Speaker 2: and it's just causing this, like you. 178 00:08:48,761 --> 00:08:49,601 Speaker 3: Know, friction. 179 00:08:49,681 --> 00:08:52,721 Speaker 2: I suppose how do you help them, I suppose compromise 180 00:08:52,841 --> 00:08:54,681 Speaker 2: or meet in the middle, like help, what do couples 181 00:08:54,761 --> 00:08:55,881 Speaker 2: do if they're in that situation? 182 00:08:56,481 --> 00:09:00,561 Speaker 1: There oftentimes needs to be a huge unlearning of what 183 00:09:00,761 --> 00:09:03,841 Speaker 1: sex actually is, because at the end of the day, 184 00:09:03,961 --> 00:09:07,001 Speaker 1: pleasure is some thing we all enjoy where a pleasure 185 00:09:07,161 --> 00:09:11,041 Speaker 1: driven species. And so if the sex that's been put 186 00:09:11,081 --> 00:09:14,281 Speaker 1: on the table isn't something that's just solely focused on 187 00:09:14,361 --> 00:09:18,001 Speaker 1: pleasure for both individuals, then the person where it isn't 188 00:09:18,001 --> 00:09:20,401 Speaker 1: pleasurable for if they have sort of just grinned and 189 00:09:20,441 --> 00:09:24,001 Speaker 1: bed it, tolerated, sort of you know, faked things to 190 00:09:24,041 --> 00:09:26,361 Speaker 1: get through it, then they are not going to want 191 00:09:26,361 --> 00:09:28,881 Speaker 1: to have it. And so what we do is we 192 00:09:28,961 --> 00:09:32,361 Speaker 1: take penetrative sex off the table for a little bit, 193 00:09:32,401 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: we put a little pause on it, and we explore 194 00:09:35,241 --> 00:09:39,681 Speaker 1: what pleasure filled intimacy can look like for this couple 195 00:09:39,841 --> 00:09:42,081 Speaker 1: and what that looks like for them individually and what 196 00:09:42,081 --> 00:09:44,201 Speaker 1: that looks like for them together, and how they can 197 00:09:44,601 --> 00:09:47,881 Speaker 1: come to a place of actually both being excited about 198 00:09:47,921 --> 00:09:48,681 Speaker 1: the intimacy. 199 00:09:49,161 --> 00:09:50,881 Speaker 4: It's a huge unlearning. 200 00:09:50,481 --> 00:09:55,201 Speaker 1: Because sex does equal penetration, sex does equal orgasm in 201 00:09:55,521 --> 00:09:59,121 Speaker 1: so many different people's cognition of their belief around what 202 00:09:59,161 --> 00:10:03,481 Speaker 1: sexuality is and so deconstructing that can take a lot 203 00:10:03,481 --> 00:10:05,321 Speaker 1: of time, but it's one of the best things that 204 00:10:05,401 --> 00:10:07,841 Speaker 1: we do. And then what we find is people can 205 00:10:07,921 --> 00:10:12,041 Speaker 1: start to realize, oh, actually, of course somewhere to want 206 00:10:12,041 --> 00:10:13,961 Speaker 1: to like be intimate with you if it means you're 207 00:10:13,961 --> 00:10:15,641 Speaker 1: going to do this to me, or if it means 208 00:10:15,641 --> 00:10:18,001 Speaker 1: that I can just do this, or if it means 209 00:10:18,041 --> 00:10:20,241 Speaker 1: I can watch you being like this, you know, And 210 00:10:20,721 --> 00:10:23,921 Speaker 1: so having those conversations getting really vulnerable about what their 211 00:10:23,921 --> 00:10:28,401 Speaker 1: needs are. Scheduling in sexy sessions together is also really 212 00:10:28,441 --> 00:10:31,841 Speaker 1: important because for the person who has a lower desire 213 00:10:31,881 --> 00:10:34,681 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, you know, that sexuality it's kind of 214 00:10:34,721 --> 00:10:38,441 Speaker 1: like on a spectrum from super highly sexual to asexual, 215 00:10:38,441 --> 00:10:40,401 Speaker 1: and people can sit anywhere on that and it can 216 00:10:40,481 --> 00:10:46,121 Speaker 1: change throughout their lifetime, throughout different experiences, throughout pregnancy, postpardon, grief, 217 00:10:46,281 --> 00:10:50,761 Speaker 1: having a lost one, health issues, hormonal issues, menopause, you know, 218 00:10:50,841 --> 00:10:53,921 Speaker 1: all of these things really contribute to our sexuality and 219 00:10:53,921 --> 00:10:57,401 Speaker 1: our desire for sex. And so regardless of where somebody 220 00:10:57,521 --> 00:11:00,801 Speaker 1: is on that spectrum, if they aren't wanting to have 221 00:11:00,881 --> 00:11:04,401 Speaker 1: sex as much as their partner, then scheduling in a 222 00:11:04,481 --> 00:11:07,641 Speaker 1: time it feels right for that couple to explore together 223 00:11:08,201 --> 00:11:09,601 Speaker 1: is one of the best ways for them to make 224 00:11:09,601 --> 00:11:12,121 Speaker 1: sure they're actually having their needs met. Otherwise, the person 225 00:11:12,161 --> 00:11:14,681 Speaker 1: who isn't feeling it as much isn't going to think 226 00:11:14,681 --> 00:11:16,601 Speaker 1: about it as much as the other partner, and then 227 00:11:16,641 --> 00:11:18,521 Speaker 1: it just sort of gets forgotten, and the other partner 228 00:11:18,561 --> 00:11:21,121 Speaker 1: doesn't want to feel as that they're pushing or having 229 00:11:21,201 --> 00:11:25,441 Speaker 1: any expectations, or that their touch isn't being misread. So 230 00:11:25,801 --> 00:11:28,241 Speaker 1: it's really nice to sort of sit down and have 231 00:11:28,321 --> 00:11:30,641 Speaker 1: a schedule. I think some people can shy away from 232 00:11:30,681 --> 00:11:32,681 Speaker 1: it because they think, oh, no, like that sounds very 233 00:11:32,761 --> 00:11:34,961 Speaker 1: clinical and like there's something wrong with us and it's 234 00:11:34,961 --> 00:11:37,881 Speaker 1: not spontaneous and it's not fine anymore. But the thing 235 00:11:38,041 --> 00:11:40,761 Speaker 1: is when we have sort of like a container to 236 00:11:40,841 --> 00:11:44,721 Speaker 1: work within, then it allows so much freedom because it's like, okay, cool, 237 00:11:44,761 --> 00:11:47,481 Speaker 1: I know that at this time and this day, like 238 00:11:47,761 --> 00:11:50,561 Speaker 1: we're going to just have fun together and whatever that's 239 00:11:50,561 --> 00:11:53,001 Speaker 1: going to look like versus there's not going to be 240 00:11:53,121 --> 00:11:55,841 Speaker 1: that asking for it at the wrong time, or it 241 00:11:55,841 --> 00:11:57,801 Speaker 1: takes away a lot of the guesswork. When we have 242 00:11:57,961 --> 00:12:01,521 Speaker 1: these open communication dynamics between couples. 243 00:12:01,721 --> 00:12:04,721 Speaker 2: I absolutely love that I've spoken about on the podcast before, 244 00:12:04,721 --> 00:12:07,721 Speaker 2: about scheduled sex, and there was a lot of pushback 245 00:12:07,721 --> 00:12:09,521 Speaker 2: of people saying that, like, oh, it takes the fun 246 00:12:09,561 --> 00:12:11,241 Speaker 2: out of it, Like, you know, I feel like it 247 00:12:11,281 --> 00:12:13,761 Speaker 2: shouldn't be like that. But I think as parents too, 248 00:12:13,881 --> 00:12:16,041 Speaker 2: like I've got two children, and yes, when we were 249 00:12:16,081 --> 00:12:17,761 Speaker 2: younger and we had more time and no kids around, 250 00:12:17,801 --> 00:12:20,321 Speaker 2: we could do it whenever, whenever. But now it's like 251 00:12:20,441 --> 00:12:22,841 Speaker 2: on the weekends when our little girl naps, like we 252 00:12:22,961 --> 00:12:26,241 Speaker 2: have a whole two hours we can just be together, connect, chat, 253 00:12:26,681 --> 00:12:28,961 Speaker 2: be intimate, not being a rush, not worried that someone's 254 00:12:28,961 --> 00:12:31,881 Speaker 2: gonna come in, like it's just our time, and it 255 00:12:31,961 --> 00:12:35,241 Speaker 2: doesn't feel less enjoyable because I know that's when we 256 00:12:35,241 --> 00:12:35,441 Speaker 2: do it. 257 00:12:35,481 --> 00:12:36,881 Speaker 3: I actually really look forward to it. 258 00:12:36,921 --> 00:12:39,801 Speaker 2: Whereas if we didn't lock in that time, then I 259 00:12:39,801 --> 00:12:41,681 Speaker 2: don't know if we ever would, because you know, we 260 00:12:41,721 --> 00:12:43,441 Speaker 2: are tired and we are busy and life gets in 261 00:12:43,481 --> 00:12:45,601 Speaker 2: the way. So I'm totally all for that. I love 262 00:12:45,641 --> 00:12:47,841 Speaker 2: the unexpected ones when they happen and we both happened 263 00:12:47,881 --> 00:12:49,281 Speaker 2: to be in the mood and it's exciting and we 264 00:12:49,321 --> 00:12:50,921 Speaker 2: feel like little kid, you know, young again. 265 00:12:51,441 --> 00:12:54,121 Speaker 3: But I think booking it in is really beautiful. 266 00:12:53,761 --> 00:12:55,961 Speaker 4: As well, exactly. And that's the thing. 267 00:12:56,081 --> 00:12:58,401 Speaker 1: When you do book it in and make it a priority, 268 00:12:58,641 --> 00:13:00,801 Speaker 1: you're probably going to be having more yummy sex that 269 00:13:00,841 --> 00:13:04,201 Speaker 1: you'll want. Those moments are going to be more likely 270 00:13:04,281 --> 00:13:06,761 Speaker 1: because it's kind of like a muscle that you're using, 271 00:13:06,921 --> 00:13:09,961 Speaker 1: and so just sort of dying in the ohs and 272 00:13:10,121 --> 00:13:13,241 Speaker 1: not being bored in practice, and that intimacy isn't cultivated, 273 00:13:13,681 --> 00:13:16,441 Speaker 1: then you know it's something there, it's fresh, it's present, 274 00:13:16,521 --> 00:13:18,481 Speaker 1: and so it's kind of like yum, like last. 275 00:13:18,361 --> 00:13:20,241 Speaker 4: Night was so good, Like what more of that? 276 00:13:20,401 --> 00:13:23,961 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly, And you're right, like, we live in 277 00:13:24,041 --> 00:13:26,761 Speaker 1: such a fast paced society now, it's so much focus 278 00:13:26,841 --> 00:13:30,681 Speaker 1: on productivity, So why would we just expect that this 279 00:13:30,801 --> 00:13:33,281 Speaker 1: is going to happen when everything else is scheduled in. 280 00:13:33,521 --> 00:13:37,481 Speaker 1: We're not fifteen sixteen, however old eighteen anymore. We're not 281 00:13:37,801 --> 00:13:41,441 Speaker 1: you know, carefree just having like some many of us 282 00:13:41,561 --> 00:13:44,161 Speaker 1: aren't living that lifestyle where we could just have sex 283 00:13:44,201 --> 00:13:47,481 Speaker 1: whenever and feel like we're ready for it going essentially 284 00:13:47,561 --> 00:13:50,841 Speaker 1: asking ourselves to go from one hundred to zero instantly. 285 00:13:51,441 --> 00:13:53,081 Speaker 4: That's just not a reality. 286 00:13:53,201 --> 00:13:56,321 Speaker 1: And so yeah, this sooner we can kind of get 287 00:13:56,321 --> 00:13:58,721 Speaker 1: on board that what's actually happening as adults in our 288 00:13:58,721 --> 00:13:59,961 Speaker 1: sexuality the better. 289 00:14:00,121 --> 00:14:00,721 Speaker 3: So good. 290 00:14:00,841 --> 00:14:02,321 Speaker 2: Something's just come up for me that I think I've 291 00:14:02,321 --> 00:14:04,441 Speaker 2: seen a lot in I'm in a forum, it's all women. 292 00:14:04,521 --> 00:14:07,161 Speaker 2: There's a lot in there. And when this kind of 293 00:14:07,281 --> 00:14:10,681 Speaker 2: situation comes up with their partners wanting more sex, a 294 00:14:10,721 --> 00:14:13,441 Speaker 2: lot of men are going to porn to get their 295 00:14:13,481 --> 00:14:16,121 Speaker 2: needs fulfilled and to get off and whatever, and then 296 00:14:16,281 --> 00:14:19,121 Speaker 2: the partner's upset and jealous, and then he's like, well, 297 00:14:19,121 --> 00:14:20,881 Speaker 2: you're not giving it to me, and then this year 298 00:14:21,081 --> 00:14:22,041 Speaker 2: the pity fox. 299 00:14:21,881 --> 00:14:23,441 Speaker 3: Him and it's just yucky. 300 00:14:23,481 --> 00:14:25,481 Speaker 2: Watch your thoughts on porn in general, because from what 301 00:14:25,521 --> 00:14:29,041 Speaker 2: I've read, it creates like a false sense of reality 302 00:14:29,281 --> 00:14:31,361 Speaker 2: to a woman's experience or what it should be. And 303 00:14:31,401 --> 00:14:33,481 Speaker 2: the men expect then their partner to be how the 304 00:14:33,521 --> 00:14:36,161 Speaker 2: porn stars are, and it's not really like that, right. 305 00:14:37,681 --> 00:14:40,601 Speaker 1: It is not like that they are actors. I am 306 00:14:40,761 --> 00:14:44,401 Speaker 1: super passionate about this topic. I love that it is 307 00:14:44,401 --> 00:14:47,241 Speaker 1: something that's being talked about more and more now. I 308 00:14:47,321 --> 00:14:49,681 Speaker 1: think that porn can be done in a way that 309 00:14:49,921 --> 00:14:57,281 Speaker 1: is a healthy, safe, ethical contribution to somebody's sexuality. It 310 00:14:57,321 --> 00:15:00,441 Speaker 1: doesn't always have to be something that's negative and poo pooed. 311 00:15:00,641 --> 00:15:04,041 Speaker 1: I just think that the ease of it means that 312 00:15:04,041 --> 00:15:07,081 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people creating unhealthy habits with pawn. 313 00:15:07,441 --> 00:15:11,321 Speaker 1: So if the pawn, for example, is the female based 314 00:15:11,441 --> 00:15:15,681 Speaker 1: pawn company and it's created for the female gaze, then 315 00:15:15,761 --> 00:15:18,441 Speaker 1: there is going to be foot play, there are going 316 00:15:18,441 --> 00:15:20,641 Speaker 1: to be angles that are realistic and sounds that you'd 317 00:15:20,681 --> 00:15:24,401 Speaker 1: actually hear, and it's not going to be performative. And 318 00:15:24,441 --> 00:15:28,921 Speaker 1: then if somebody is wanting to explore their pleasure with pawn, 319 00:15:29,201 --> 00:15:31,481 Speaker 1: then doing it in a way that isn't like just 320 00:15:31,481 --> 00:15:33,641 Speaker 1: sitting in front of a computer and having a real 321 00:15:33,721 --> 00:15:36,161 Speaker 1: quick jerk and getting it over and done with. Because 322 00:15:36,161 --> 00:15:40,361 Speaker 1: we've seen that this has contributed towards rapid ejaculation, which 323 00:15:40,401 --> 00:15:43,481 Speaker 1: then really impacts a relationship as well when they're having 324 00:15:43,481 --> 00:15:46,841 Speaker 1: sex with a real person or a rectile disappointment. So 325 00:15:47,281 --> 00:15:49,761 Speaker 1: there can be some sexual dysfunction that can come from 326 00:15:50,161 --> 00:15:54,081 Speaker 1: overusing or misusing porn, whereas if somebody is just you know, 327 00:15:54,121 --> 00:15:57,201 Speaker 1: there's some erotica on TV and they're standing up and 328 00:15:57,241 --> 00:16:00,001 Speaker 1: they're like moving their body and they're really getting into 329 00:16:00,041 --> 00:16:03,721 Speaker 1: that there breathing and they're edging and they're feeling themselves 330 00:16:03,761 --> 00:16:06,601 Speaker 1: and they are, so you know, just not fastwarding to 331 00:16:06,681 --> 00:16:09,321 Speaker 1: the sexy bit and clicking between different people and creating 332 00:16:09,721 --> 00:16:13,841 Speaker 1: very much and not real experience. Then I think it 333 00:16:13,881 --> 00:16:16,201 Speaker 1: can be done in an ethical way, and it's super 334 00:16:16,241 --> 00:16:18,921 Speaker 1: sexy to create porn with each other and for each 335 00:16:18,961 --> 00:16:21,081 Speaker 1: other as well. I know for people who do feel 336 00:16:21,081 --> 00:16:24,281 Speaker 1: that jealousy, which is totally valid. Some people don't, some 337 00:16:24,321 --> 00:16:26,641 Speaker 1: people do, And for the people who do, I recommend 338 00:16:26,681 --> 00:16:30,961 Speaker 1: like making some yummies, sensual content, doing some self portraiture, 339 00:16:31,201 --> 00:16:35,281 Speaker 1: getting some laingderie, getting into your feels, and like gifting 340 00:16:35,321 --> 00:16:37,481 Speaker 1: that to your partner so that, yeah, you don't have 341 00:16:37,561 --> 00:16:40,001 Speaker 1: to show up all of the time in that erotic 342 00:16:40,081 --> 00:16:43,041 Speaker 1: space if you're feeling less desireing and you're not feeling 343 00:16:43,081 --> 00:16:45,561 Speaker 1: you when have sex as often, but then you know, 344 00:16:45,801 --> 00:16:48,721 Speaker 1: having something for the partner to be able to use 345 00:16:48,961 --> 00:16:50,121 Speaker 1: in that regard. 346 00:16:50,361 --> 00:16:52,481 Speaker 2: I love what you said about how something's on the 347 00:16:52,521 --> 00:16:54,881 Speaker 2: screen and there's four play and they're feeling their bodies 348 00:16:54,881 --> 00:16:58,201 Speaker 2: and they're breeding. I feel like it's different. But I 349 00:16:58,241 --> 00:17:01,001 Speaker 2: love a good sexy romance novel because I feel like 350 00:17:01,041 --> 00:17:03,881 Speaker 2: you get that big build up. Yeah, like playing in 351 00:17:03,921 --> 00:17:05,961 Speaker 2: your head and then your picture with your partner, and 352 00:17:06,001 --> 00:17:08,521 Speaker 2: that to me is like massive foreplay. My husband's always like, 353 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: I know you're reading a good book right now, like yes, 354 00:17:11,921 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 2: come here. 355 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: Exactly. 356 00:17:14,961 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 4: And that's what's missing in porn. And that's what most 357 00:17:18,001 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 4: male body people are learning. 358 00:17:19,321 --> 00:17:22,321 Speaker 1: From a really young age that suddenly there's this woman 359 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,401 Speaker 1: they're ready for you gagging for. 360 00:17:24,441 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 4: It's so excited immediately gagging. 361 00:17:28,321 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 3: That's just not the fucking reality. It's literally, no. 362 00:17:31,721 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 4: High, it's not. 363 00:17:33,281 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: And so of course they're going to feel rejected if 364 00:17:35,441 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: they're like, well, why is she gagging for this guy 365 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,601 Speaker 1: on the porno? But for me, she's just like ah no, 366 00:17:40,681 --> 00:17:48,521 Speaker 1: rub my back, like. 367 00:17:45,441 --> 00:17:47,761 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my gosh. It's such a good way to 368 00:17:47,761 --> 00:17:48,041 Speaker 3: put it. 369 00:17:48,041 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: I feel like everyone listening is going to be like, yes, 370 00:17:49,961 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 2: thank you, I've got one more question that I feel like, 371 00:17:52,921 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 2: once again, I see in forums. I talk to a 372 00:17:54,681 --> 00:17:57,481 Speaker 2: lot of women in my DMS. Obviously no sex ologists, 373 00:17:57,481 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 2: but I feel like I'm a safe place if people 374 00:17:59,120 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 2: ask me a lot of questions, and I feel like 375 00:18:01,001 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: so many women are struggling with low libido and I'm 376 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:08,241 Speaker 2: assuming stresses. Massive contributor to that, But what advice would 377 00:18:08,241 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 2: you have for women who feel like they just have 378 00:18:10,241 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: no libido or low libido. They look at their partner 379 00:18:12,761 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: they want to do it, but they're just like they 380 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: just don't want to. 381 00:18:16,321 --> 00:18:18,881 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, I just, first and foremost want 382 00:18:18,921 --> 00:18:19,921 Speaker 4: to normalize it. 383 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: Sexuality is fed to us as if it's something we 384 00:18:23,561 --> 00:18:26,521 Speaker 1: need to survive, just like food and water and touch, 385 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:27,721 Speaker 1: whereas it. 386 00:18:27,681 --> 00:18:30,761 Speaker 4: Really is, it's a leisurely activity we get. 387 00:18:30,561 --> 00:18:33,041 Speaker 1: To enjoy in the way that we want to enjoy it. 388 00:18:33,041 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: It's not something we need to survive. And so I 389 00:18:35,321 --> 00:18:37,641 Speaker 1: feel like people feel like they're broken or there's something 390 00:18:37,681 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: wrong with them. However, we do live in a society 391 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: that doesn't support female wooded people, and the work that 392 00:18:43,961 --> 00:18:46,201 Speaker 1: we do, as much as it should, doesn't support our 393 00:18:46,201 --> 00:18:49,241 Speaker 1: cyclic nature. You know, we do a nine to five, 394 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:52,201 Speaker 1: five day a week work week, which is going straight 395 00:18:52,241 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: throughout periods, going straight through the pre menstrual phase, and 396 00:18:55,761 --> 00:18:59,441 Speaker 1: you know, this linear way of living doesn't support our 397 00:18:59,481 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: bodies and our hormones. And it makes sense that so 398 00:19:02,761 --> 00:19:06,121 Speaker 1: many people aren't feeling that desire that maybe they did 399 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,961 Speaker 1: when they were younger and they didn't have as many issues. 400 00:19:08,681 --> 00:19:09,521 Speaker 4: Day to day life. 401 00:19:09,561 --> 00:19:12,561 Speaker 1: So what I like to talk about in this situation 402 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: is looking at libido as desire and then creating something 403 00:19:16,681 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: that you do desire. Libido can kind of feel like 404 00:19:19,481 --> 00:19:21,441 Speaker 1: this enigmatic, really. 405 00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:23,081 Speaker 4: Like tricky, like I can't quite touch it. I can't 406 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 4: put my finger on it. 407 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:24,521 Speaker 3: Where is it? 408 00:19:24,921 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 4: Whereas desire, it's. 409 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,801 Speaker 1: Like okay, cool, yeah, I know, like I know what 410 00:19:27,801 --> 00:19:30,561 Speaker 1: it feels like to desire, Like I desire a huge 411 00:19:30,561 --> 00:19:33,241 Speaker 1: bottle pasta with whatever yummy sauce. 412 00:19:33,281 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 4: I desire that. 413 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: You know, I desire sun on my skin. Okay, what 414 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: in my sexuality do I desire? And how can I 415 00:19:40,961 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: make that happen? And so when we talk about sees 416 00:19:43,561 --> 00:19:47,601 Speaker 1: and our sis, our sexual excitatory response, it's like our accelerator. 417 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: It's the thing that turns us on sexually and lights 418 00:19:49,921 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: us up and engages our arousal. And we have our 419 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,201 Speaker 1: sexual inhibitory response or systems. 420 00:19:55,321 --> 00:19:57,801 Speaker 4: So it's like our breaks in our sexuality. 421 00:19:57,961 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: So the things that make us say no, and you know, 422 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:02,521 Speaker 1: we need to have both of these systems. 423 00:20:02,561 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 4: We can't be walking around ready to fuck whenever. 424 00:20:05,041 --> 00:20:09,241 Speaker 1: I wish, but no, no, there are times and places 425 00:20:09,281 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: for it, so you know, if you're out to your 426 00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: family dinner, you're probably not going to feel super. 427 00:20:13,441 --> 00:20:14,761 Speaker 4: Sexy and wanting to have sex. 428 00:20:14,801 --> 00:20:18,881 Speaker 1: Whereas, yeah, watching a yummy movie or listening to erotica, Yeah, 429 00:20:19,001 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: your sexual excitatory system or response, it's going to be activated. 430 00:20:22,801 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: And so to sort of bring it down a little 431 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,761 Speaker 1: bit more easy to digest, we're looking at our accelerators 432 00:20:27,761 --> 00:20:30,121 Speaker 1: and our breaks, and we want to see what are 433 00:20:30,201 --> 00:20:32,881 Speaker 1: our breaks and how can we take our foot off 434 00:20:32,921 --> 00:20:36,041 Speaker 1: the break a little bit, and what are our accelerators, 435 00:20:36,041 --> 00:20:38,121 Speaker 1: and how can we make our accelerators a little bit 436 00:20:38,120 --> 00:20:41,121 Speaker 1: more sensitive, because that is going to help us engage 437 00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:44,481 Speaker 1: and activate and connect in with our desire more. Say, 438 00:20:44,521 --> 00:20:48,521 Speaker 1: for example, a messy house, dirty teeth, noisy kids, that's 439 00:20:48,521 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: probably going to hit your brakes. So how can you 440 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,561 Speaker 1: create an environment to respond to that doesn't have all 441 00:20:53,561 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: of these things going on? What are your exciters? What 442 00:20:56,481 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: accelerates your sexual response? Is it having a yummy sense? 443 00:21:00,961 --> 00:21:03,281 Speaker 1: Is it having yummy fab bricks? Are you a central person? 444 00:21:03,321 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: Are you a kinky person being some different like kinky 445 00:21:06,441 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: things around that you can play with. Is that going 446 00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:10,321 Speaker 1: to help you a little bit of power play through 447 00:21:10,321 --> 00:21:12,961 Speaker 1: the day? So it's so different for everybody, their own 448 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,801 Speaker 1: unique erotic blueprint and what lights them up. And some 449 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: people have really sensitive breaks and really sensitive accelerators, so 450 00:21:20,441 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: they might get really turned on easily, but also turned 451 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,561 Speaker 1: off really easily. Some people might have not so sensitive 452 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,441 Speaker 1: breaks like my husband and really sensitive accelerators, or the opposite, 453 00:21:29,441 --> 00:21:32,801 Speaker 1: They might have really sensitive breaks and then to put 454 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,201 Speaker 1: the foot down on the accelerator, it's not so sensitive. 455 00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:37,481 Speaker 4: So finding what that. 456 00:21:37,521 --> 00:21:40,681 Speaker 1: Means to you uniquely as an individual, because everybody, as 457 00:21:40,681 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: I said, is super different, and writing out your own 458 00:21:44,241 --> 00:21:48,241 Speaker 1: unique pleasure menu or what lights you up, and then 459 00:21:48,321 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: making sure you're having a little bit of taste of 460 00:21:50,481 --> 00:21:53,321 Speaker 1: the menu as often as you can. More and more 461 00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:57,281 Speaker 1: pleasure breeds more pleasure and turn on and desire the break, 462 00:21:57,360 --> 00:21:59,801 Speaker 1: Seeing where you can navigate those breaks, What can you 463 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,961 Speaker 1: take out, what can you remove or can you outsource? 464 00:22:02,001 --> 00:22:04,201 Speaker 1: What can you ask of your partner or can you 465 00:22:04,281 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: implement to make your breaks less sensitive? 466 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: Wow, so much incredible information. Thank you so much. That 467 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: was so informative. I'm sure there's only so many women listening, 468 00:22:16,721 --> 00:22:19,361 Speaker 2: and even myself like, yeah, where can we find you? 469 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:21,041 Speaker 2: You've got retreats coming out tell us a little bit 470 00:22:21,041 --> 00:22:22,601 Speaker 2: more about how we could work with you and learn 471 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:23,121 Speaker 2: from you more. 472 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 473 00:22:23,681 --> 00:22:24,001 Speaker 4: Sure. 474 00:22:24,321 --> 00:22:28,361 Speaker 1: So I have a bunch of free information and education 475 00:22:28,481 --> 00:22:32,521 Speaker 1: on my Instagram at Your Delicious. 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