1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: You can listen to the Front on your smart speaker 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: every morning to hear the latest episode. Just say play 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: the news from the Australian. From the Australian, here's what's 4 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: on the Front. I'm Claire Harvey. It's Thursday, August fifteenth. 5 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: There's been a fifty percent rise in episodes of mental 6 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: ill health among young people. It's part of a huge 7 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: study led by Australian psychiatrists and they say the economy 8 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: and technological change are contributing to distress. Psychedelic mushrooms as 9 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: a possible treatment for cluster headaches. That's a new clinical 10 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: trial kicking off in Sydney using the drug silas cyburn 11 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: to treat the debilitating condition. That story is live now 12 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: at the Australian dot Com dot You a truly shocking 13 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: set of numbers for seven West Media, the owners of 14 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: Network seven. So is the clock ticking for commercial television 15 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: in Australia. That's today on the front on commercial TV. 16 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: There's a major drama going on, like my fears and 17 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: my doubts. 18 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: I don't feel comfortable just spilling all my emotions. 19 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: I'm not coming in for the drama. I'm just coming 20 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 1: in for a bit of jolly farm, bit of light. 21 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: Hardeners changes the whole concept of what my shower screen 22 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: looks like. 23 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: Well, there's always a major drama going on, but this 24 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: one relates to the very existence of the TV networks. 25 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: The media sector was stunned on Wednesday when seven West 26 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: Media released its annual results. 27 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: Net profit before taxes is down sixty nine. Group revenue 28 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: overall has slipped five percent. There's not much silver in 29 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: any of the linings at seven. 30 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: That's The Australian's Media editor James Madden, fresh from an 31 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: interview with Seven's boss, who was keen to assure James 32 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: he's not panicking you. 33 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 2: CEO Jeff Howard, who's been in the job since April, 34 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: so just over four months, was definitely sought to put 35 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: a positive spin on these numbers, which by any measure 36 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: are shocking. 37 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: Seven still made forty five million dollars in profit for 38 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: the year to June thirty, but still a sixty nine 39 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: percent profit slump. 40 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: So his characterization of the results as disappointing was a 41 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: soft euphemism, if ever there was one. 42 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: Some of it can be explained by restructuring costs, and 43 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: Seven's news division is going through a giant cultural overhaul 44 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: after some very unpleasant headlines. But the big worry for 45 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: seven is a problem that's ravelaging commercial media right now. 46 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: Ads are down, way down. The advent of streaming services, 47 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 1: which generally get their revenue from subscription fees rather than sponsors, 48 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: means you can enjoy a full marathon binge without having 49 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: to watch a single ad. If you watched any of 50 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: the Olympics on linear TV, you might have encountered ads 51 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: for the first time in a while, and you'll have 52 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: noticed they were on high rotation five decades Australian furniture 53 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: de sign I've got a ton of job lads from 54 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: high pages. Thank yo with ay. And those ads are 55 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: part of a slightly more optimistic story for nine. Seven's 56 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: major commercial rival, which will report its annual numbers on 57 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: August twenty eight, nine is already talking a big game, 58 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: reporting it's generated over one hundred and forty million dollars 59 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: in revenue from what is believed to be a one 60 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty million dollar investment in the Olympics. But 61 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: things look grim at ten. In May, they announced the 62 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: masked Singer and the Bachelor would be rested, a show 63 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: being rested is a bit like when a family pet 64 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: goes to live on the farm. Life without the bachelor, 65 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: Where will we get the next generation of influences and 66 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: relationship role models. I love how Rich makes me feel, 67 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, he makes me feel alive and safe and 68 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: he just makes me so happy. At least we still 69 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: have married at first sight. Ten is the third player 70 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: in Australian media, and it's a tiny fragment of its 71 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: global parent company, Paramount, which has just been sold from 72 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: one family of American billionaires to another. They of course 73 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: want more profit. That means reducing costs in the range 74 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: of three billion dollars across global operations. How will that 75 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: play out for Ten, Well, we'll have to wait and see. 76 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: For now, all eyes are on seven. Seven West Media 77 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: is part of a bigger organization, Seven Group, which does 78 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: a whole lot of other things, particularly in mining. They're 79 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: owned ultimately by the billionaire Stokes family, Kerry Stokes and 80 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: his son Ryan. How much do you think they're concerned 81 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: about one year's shocking results, as you say from seven 82 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: West Media. 83 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: Well, you'd have to assume there is significant concern about 84 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: this arm of the business. There's long been speculation about 85 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: the future of seven West Media as part of the group, 86 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: as many analysts see it as the least valuable arm 87 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 2: of the business. However, it's understood that Kerry Stokes is 88 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: very fond of heading up a media company, so as 89 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: to whether there will be any push on to offload 90 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: it in the short term is unlikely. 91 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: Stokes seems to have a high tolerance for massive outlaighs. 92 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,559 Speaker 1: He's been financially backing Ben Roberts Smith, the Victoria Cross 93 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: winner who's denied being a war criminal in his defamation 94 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: trial against nine. 95 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 2: It is a devastating blow for the decorated former soldier 96 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: after one of the biggest and most expensive court battles 97 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: in Australian history. 98 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: Robert Smith is appealing, which means that tab will just 99 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: continue to grow for Kerry Stokes. When James spoke to 100 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: Jeff Howard on Wednesday, he was very keen to talk 101 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: about the future of linear TV. That is old fashioned 102 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: Channel seven on your television set rather than its streaming 103 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: service which they call BVOD b VOD or broadcast video 104 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: on demand. 105 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: Media executives are quite defensive about the future of linear TV. 106 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 2: They continue to talk it up because the linear arm 107 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: of the business still remains at the core of these 108 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: television networks. 109 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: So presumably one of the reasons they love linear TV 110 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: is that it's more difficult to avoid the ads, right, 111 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: is that what it's about. 112 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: That's a large part of it. Claire, However, it would 113 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: seem that the advertisers are catching up and want more 114 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: bang for their buck. Advertisers are waking up to the 115 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: fact that audiences, the key demographics, have largely moved to 116 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: digital and have left linear TV behind. 117 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: All media companies are suffering a downturn in advertising right now, 118 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: and in part they're blaming giant tech platforms which have 119 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: scooped up vast volumes of ad revenue in recent years. 120 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: That's part of the reason companies like our parent News 121 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: Corp Australia want the government to force tech giants like 122 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: Meta to negotiate fair payments to media companies for the 123 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: news they use on their platforms. 124 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: Mister Howard, like a raft of other media CEOs in Australia, 125 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,679 Speaker 2: has been very vocal that the time to is now. 126 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: He's not the only one saying it, but he did 127 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: warn that if nothing is done in the very near future, 128 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: we'll all be sitting around in ten to twenty years 129 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,559 Speaker 2: time saying well, we wish we'd acted when we could. 130 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: Earlier in the New Zealanders saw their only commercial TV 131 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: news service die. Could the same thing happen in Australia? 132 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: That's next on the front. The Australian has the best 133 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: coverage of media every day from James and his team. 134 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: Check it out at the Australian dot com dot au 135 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: and we'll be back after this break. Now, more than ever, 136 00:08:55,080 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: you need news you can trust. Verse is three new Es. 137 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: This is the story of a scrappy TV station that 138 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: spent twenty five years trying to compete with a powerful 139 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: government owned broadcaster and ended up on its knees. We 140 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: have loved making the news. Thank you so much for watching, 141 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: for having us in your homes. Come ony. TV three 142 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: New Zealand's version of Network seven is a shell of 143 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: its former self. Earlier this year, three's American owners, Warner 144 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: Brothers Discovery axed three's news in a bid to save 145 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: the whole station from a catastrophic AD revenue decline. There 146 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: was no triumphalism from TVNZ three's rival when they reported 147 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 1: the demise of their competitor. It's a sad day for 148 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: democracy and journalism in New Zealand. Aunt Kiwi's nice. Now 149 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: three's programming is jammed with American and British shows. Once 150 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: the news was dead, the locally produced content was terminal, 151 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: the block was act four couples are about to move 152 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: into four rundown houses on Auckland's north shore, and so 153 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: was married at first sight New Zealand. 154 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: I don't know where to go from here because I've 155 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: worn my heart my sleeve. 156 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: Hundreds of production jobs. Gone three has reintroduced a dramatically 157 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: scaled down news service. But can we journos fear that 158 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 1: won't last long? I mean, it's almost unfathomable that Australia 159 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: could be left without commercial TV. But how serious is 160 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: the problem here? Is that something that's actually potentially on 161 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: the horizon, that one or more of our commercial networks 162 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: could fault. 163 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: It's certainly a possibility, Claire. There's a lot of talk 164 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: that Network ten might not survive well into the future, 165 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: leaving us with just nine and seven. The problem, as 166 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: you say in New Zealand, or the consequence of the 167 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: loss of a commercial TV presence, is that consumers, viewers 168 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: and readers are inevitably forced to go elsewhere for them news, 169 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: and the news available on social media platforms isn't subject 170 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 2: to the same rigor as professional journalism, and thus misinformation 171 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: and fake news, if you want to call it, that thrives. 172 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: If Three's vestigial news service fails, New Zealand's broadcast media 173 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: will be dominated by Radio New Zealand and TV and ZED, 174 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: both state owned. 175 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: One of the most common mantras in journalism is the 176 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: need for a diversity of views, and if the only 177 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 2: publicly aired view in a country is coming from a 178 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 2: state owned media organization, it's far from ideal. I think 179 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: it's a case of you don't know what you've got 180 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: till it's gone. On this front. Once these organizations fold 181 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: or disappear or contract, it's going to be very hard 182 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: to turn it around and return to the way things 183 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: once were. 184 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: James Madden is The Australian's Media it out. Thanks for 185 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: joining us on the front. We'll be back right here tomorrow. 186 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: In the meantime, join our subscribers at the Australian dot 187 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: com dot au