1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:00,480 Speaker 1: M hm. 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 2: Hm. 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 3: Welcome to n L three sixty rab League from every angle, 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 3: brought to you by n I V. Joining me again 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 3: the Great Gordon Tallisthen the Journal Australian, Paul Crawley and 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 3: Dean Richie and our Telstra top story. Latrell Mitchell has 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 3: broken his silence after fronting the Rabbits Board over the 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 3: white substance photo scandal. 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 4: Let's take a look. 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: How did it go with the troll and o' comen? 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 4: I think live with the board and we'll go from there. 12 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: What was going on in that photoleman? Yeah? 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: Well level of family, get out of my family. 14 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 4: Now leave me alone, up my house please. 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: Latrol helped up the last couple of weeks. 16 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 5: Weeks players, we. 17 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: Could imagine what was going on in that photo? Can 18 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: you tell us? 19 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 4: I don't really know, so we'll just leave it there. 20 00:00:55,240 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: Name. Did the board have anything to say today? Oh? 21 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: I remember all good guys. 22 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 4: Take care the first. 23 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: Day, I have a good day. 24 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 2: Beautiful springs color that is not. 25 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: Not long after leaving the meeting the troll, Mitchell posted 26 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 3: this message to Instagram. Sometimes in life you make poor 27 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: decisions and I have accepted that as a man, family man, 28 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 3: club man. 29 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 4: I want to do better. 30 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: I can take this time now to move forward, look 31 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 3: ahead and continue on being the best version of myself. 32 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 3: Love to all that has supported me throughout this very 33 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 3: grateful Gordy thoughts on this. 34 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 5: I thought he might have come out, did a press conference, 35 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 5: owned it a little bit, apologized and moved on. 36 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: It just keeps it lingering on. 37 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 5: I think there was no South Sydney organization, there was 38 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 5: no one from the club to come out and stand 39 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 5: with him. There was no press conference, there was no 40 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 5: official but as I suppose in that Latrell was by 41 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 5: himself on a club function when he was in duble. 42 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 6: Completely unprofessional on every front. Like from Latrell's point of view, 43 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 6: he should have stood there and manned up answered the question, 44 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 6: and not just for the media, but for his coach 45 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 6: that he'd let down, for his teammates, for the club 46 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 6: that pays him one point two million dollars a year, 47 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 6: and also for the fans out there who have been 48 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 6: left in the. 49 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 7: Dark throughout it all. 50 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 6: The whole season's been an absolute shamuzole at that club. 51 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 6: And that's why I always also believe it was up 52 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 6: for someone from the club to come out and be 53 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 6: a part of this. Like they're a professional football organization. 54 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 6: They've had plenty of time to sleep on this and 55 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 6: come up with the right answer that today should have 56 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 6: been that day, but they let themselves down. 57 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 8: It shouldn't Souse at least, And I'm not an apologist 58 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 8: for Sourse sitting. I've got no affiliation there whatsoever. But 59 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 8: shouldn't they at least wait until the whole process is finalized, 60 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 8: we find out what sanction is going toward Latrell, and 61 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 8: then we can have a clean and non clunky press 62 00:02:58,480 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 8: coromerse and we can clean it up. 63 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 7: That wasn't That's what I'm saying. 64 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: That was not terrible. 65 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 7: That was a terrible look for a professional football club. 66 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 6: They just needed one person, Blake Solding, to walk out 67 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 6: alongside Latrell. They can work out what they're saying beforehand. 68 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 6: They knew the media was going to be it. 69 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 8: Also Latrell's mess cross Natal. 70 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 7: I'll tell you why it so he can clean it up. 71 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 6: Okay, it's not just Latrell's mess. That the club has 72 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 6: been complicit in this dog any way you want to 73 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 6: look at it, you can go back as far as 74 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 6: you want. Latrell has been given too much rain and 75 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 6: on this occasion he's gone too far. But the club 76 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 6: has played a part in this, and that's why I 77 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 6: believe they had something to explain. 78 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: I thought it was a good opportunity for the club 79 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: and their leadership to really take a stance set the standards, 80 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: and it just seems like they haven't done that for 81 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 3: a long period of time. 82 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 4: Now you don't think that. 83 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 8: Oh not so much that break. There is a collective 84 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 8: bargaining agreement in place. Now I won't bog everyone down 85 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 8: with the logistics of it, but it basically precludes the 86 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 8: club and then are all from discussing anything on the run. 87 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 7: We don't want this fluid. 88 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 8: Process where bits and pieces are leaking out every day. 89 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 7: They want to make it clear and clean at the 90 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 7: end and then. 91 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: Argument in the back. 92 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 5: We all saw the footage, right, we all see it 93 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 5: just own up and move on. The more it lingers around? Right, 94 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 5: So where is South Sydney coming out? And where is Latrell. 95 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,239 Speaker 7: Could have been finished today? 96 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 3: How close that it could have been done? How long 97 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 3: is it going to go on for? Are they are 98 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: they close to making a decision? You know what the 99 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: punishment's going to be from the club. 100 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 8: I think the souse punishment LATREL will be financial. I 101 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 8: think we're looking at a to be confirmed, a one 102 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 8: game suspension from the RREL and probably about twenty thousand. 103 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 7: Look, it was in there today to meet with a 104 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 7: committee which. 105 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 5: Was full board members, to make a decision. Well, boarding, sure, 106 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 5: as an organization through. 107 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 8: Quickly, but you run the risk of being accused of 108 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 8: pushing it through too. 109 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: Quickly, pushing it too quickly. How long has it been. 110 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 7: Well, they only met with the board today. 111 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 5: But surely they should have some rough idea if they're 112 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 5: a board in there, and probably do you got to 113 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 5: give it right club? 114 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: It's been around for one hundred years. 115 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 5: Do you think that they would stand for something and 116 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 5: say that's not acceptable in our well go I look 117 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 5: back to this. 118 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 3: When the Melbourne Storm players got in trouble on mad Monday, 119 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 3: they had to do a full press conference, full Melbourne 120 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 3: Storm Kid Club CEO and everyone was there. They had 121 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 3: to apologize to all the fans and their family and 122 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 3: they had to actually ring ex players and they got 123 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 3: a significant fine. They got hammered over that, and they 124 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 3: faced the music and they owned it. You know, I 125 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: just feel like it's a big comparison here In similar. 126 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: Events, grendall S got two years. 127 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 8: Latrelle was garbled in that Quasiti press comference. Right there, 128 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 8: you're saying the screen, that's why. And again, I please 129 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 8: don't think I'm defending Latrell. 130 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 7: I'm not. 131 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 8: That's why he went home and felt compelled to tidy 132 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 8: up what he said and release that statement through Instagram. 133 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 6: How did they not see that coming though? How could 134 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 6: you not see that that was going to again paint 135 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 6: your club in a bad light, Because look, we've all 136 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 6: been around the game long enough to know what's going 137 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 6: to happen. If a guy walks out in this situation, 138 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 6: they will follow him and they will ask questions. Why 139 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 6: not just confront that I can't and put it to bed. 140 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 7: I put it to bed. 141 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 6: And for your fans too, And I just want to 142 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 6: say this too, for the South Sydney fans out there 143 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 6: who you know you want the members, You want people 144 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 6: to come and buy your merchandise, turn up and pay 145 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 6: their money to go and watch your games, but you 146 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 6: don't want to give them an explanation. 147 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 7: And it's their best player, paid player. After a disastrous show. 148 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 5: And then I was guilty of this through my whole career. Dog, 149 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 5: when you come up with me, I wasn't talking to you. 150 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 5: You're talking to your fans, you're talking to your members, 151 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 5: You're talking to the people that you've let down. 152 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: Right. 153 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 5: So that's one thing that players need to get through 154 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 5: the head that when they're talking, then they're getting the 155 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 5: message out to the people that believe in them. 156 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: Right. 157 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 5: And to me, it looks like South has just let 158 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 5: him go by himself and they don't want to be 159 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 5: part of this. 160 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 7: Gordy, I think you might be right. 161 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 8: There's a part of me that thinks that, as I 162 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 8: said before, he created this mess, why should South Sydney 163 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 8: have to go out there in front up themselves. 164 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: They're going to take some ownship because pulled back a 165 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: little bit. In my opinion, if they were a bit 166 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 3: harder on the trail and disciplinedty more in the future 167 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: for past indiscretions there, maybe it would have been better 168 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: for him. You've got to look at the big picture. 169 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: You got to set standards at clubs. You've got to 170 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: go this is the guy that I want the whole 171 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 3: team to follow. He's our leader, he's our enforcer, he's 172 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 3: our best player. So we've got to penalize him or 173 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: discipline him like we would any other player, because he 174 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 3: is the man that we want leading our club. If 175 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: they had done that in the past, they may not 176 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 3: be in this situation where the treill is right now. 177 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: He may not be there if they had done the 178 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: right thing by him then. So if they keep doing 179 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: the same thing, it's going to keep happening, and it's 180 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: going to keep happening. I just thought it was a 181 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: real opportunity missed by the club today, and their leadership 182 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: ook agree. 183 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 8: It's a different issue we're talking about going back in time, 184 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 8: but yes, I think it's quite clear if South Sydney 185 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 8: had been stronger in their discipline on the trail over 186 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 8: the past four or five years, we be at this 187 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 8: point that we are right now. 188 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: When will we serve He's match band to. 189 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 7: Be confirmed Braath. 190 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 8: Obviously there is a push for next year and there's 191 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 8: obviously the thought that it should be done now. 192 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 7: My personal opinion. 193 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 8: Is that if he is found to be penalized one game, 194 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 8: he should serve it on the day that the penalty 195 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 8: comes down, not next year or but it there'll be 196 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 8: an argument saying that it doesn't punish him at all 197 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 8: this year because he's injured. 198 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't. 199 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 7: Well, you're going to put it back the next year, 200 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 7: of course you have to. 201 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: You have to do that. 202 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 6: But you know why you have to do that, dog, 203 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 6: because it's the right thing to do. It's the right 204 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 6: thing to do. At the moment Latrell is out injured. 205 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 6: You cannot you cannot go in and allow him to 206 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 6: serve that one game suspension this year when he's out injured, 207 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 6: and even if it's for South Sydy's benefit, they've got 208 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 6: to do the right thing here. We've had players in 209 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 6: the past. Mitchell Pierce is a great example. He got 210 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 6: fined one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars I think 211 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 6: fifty thousand suspended, but an eight match ban. 212 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,119 Speaker 7: You've got Jared. 213 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 6: Wilbua Hardgraves this week who's gone out and clip someone high. 214 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 7: He gets a full match ban, a full match band. 215 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 6: You'd tell me what's the worst look for the game, 216 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 6: Jared's tackle or the Trills photo. What's the worst look? 217 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 6: And yet if they don't want to cop a one 218 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 6: game band for that, they're kidding themselves. 219 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 3: He's been alllad out for the year. What if they 220 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 3: well that's what Ben Hornby said a few weeks ago. 221 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 3: What if they were to say that he was fit 222 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: for around twenty seven. 223 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: Well, he'd have to train so normally. 224 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 5: Right, let's just say if it's your star player, you 225 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 5: want him trainer and he should be running, and you'd 226 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 5: say he'd be running for three weeks breath. 227 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 8: Right, though it is open slather as to when he's going. 228 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 7: To fulfill that suspension. 229 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 8: If it is around twenty seven, he's fit, he's name 230 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 8: on a Tuesday night and they go, there's your one week. 231 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 5: And then he was fit to play Origin and he 232 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 5: pulled out a day before. So there's a totally different argument. 233 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 5: And if you're fit to play NRAL, you've got to 234 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 5: have at least three or four weeks under your belt. 235 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 8: If you have a suspension through a penalty, I just 236 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 8: don't think you can push it around a And if 237 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 8: it has to win, if it comes down on a Tuesday, 238 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 8: will it starts from that Tuesday. 239 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 3: It's going to be interesting to see how this pans 240 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 3: out and how the rabbit Os respond to after that 241 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 3: board meeting today with Latrell Mitchell. Now it is d 242 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 3: day for Broncos and Dolphins. 243 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 4: What a game this. 244 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 3: Is, given the circumstances, the significance of the result and 245 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 3: the rivalry. 246 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 4: But it's all about the coaches, isn't it. 247 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 3: Wayne Bennett taking on Kevin Walters, who's under more pressure, 248 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 3: who needs this more than the other? 249 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 7: Both men are under pressure. 250 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 6: Look, Kevy's been under pressure all year and we've sat 251 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 6: there and we've spoken about the fact that Broncos have 252 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 6: gone from last year's Grand Final to on the verge 253 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 6: of missing the eight and now they've fought back again. 254 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 6: I can't exclude the fact Wayne's under huge pressure going 255 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 6: into this game. For him, it would be personal. He 256 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 6: was sent packing from the club. It was a very 257 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 6: bit of divorce. He has held resentment against the club 258 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 6: for what happened back then and he wanted it come 259 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 6: out and say this. But he would like nothing more, 260 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 6: nothing more than to beat the Broncos in this game. 261 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 5: And you know what, like the flags that are up 262 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 5: around So when you're in Brisbane now you know it's 263 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 5: a rugby league city. There's Dolphins everywhere. It's on the 264 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 5: radio every day. Put your fins up. The Broncos flags 265 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 5: are every sign. This is our house so I think 266 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 5: players too. I think the players are under a lot 267 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 5: of pressure. You saw Tony stags last year. It went 268 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 5: down to the y. He scores right in the far corner. 269 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 5: This is our house, So I think everybody's under the pump. 270 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 3: Would Kevy take it personal too, I think, yeah, couples Wayne, 271 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 3: I think coaches do. 272 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no doubt. There's no doubt Kevy would want 273 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 5: to get one over Wayne. There's no doubt. But I 274 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 5: reckon Wayne over the club more because there's a there's 275 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 5: a bit more bad blood. 276 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 6: And I also think Wayne, look if he was being 277 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 6: completely honest with himself. Like I don't necessarily agree with 278 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 6: Buzzer's belief that Wayne should have stood down from the job, 279 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 6: but I think if if Wayne was looking at the 280 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 6: record this year and the fact that they have lost 281 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 6: nine of their last twelve games, and while I wouldn't 282 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 6: say that the team's not playing for him, because they're 283 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 6: fought hard in most of those games, but when you 284 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 6: think about a Bennett coach team, they always say good 285 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 6: defense and they don't. 286 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 7: Beat themselves well. 287 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 6: This year, on too many occasions, the Dolphins have beaten 288 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 6: themselves with silly errors. 289 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 5: And then even the three games that they won, I 290 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 5: think they led in twenty eight points, twenty eight points, 291 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 5: thirty points. That's not normally a Wayne Bennett coach side. 292 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 7: It would have to be disappointed. 293 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 4: What has gone wrong there? 294 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: Then? 295 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 3: If it's not, if it's not the fact that he 296 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: signed with the House mid season, what is it? 297 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 7: I think it's injuries. 298 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 8: We've got Flegler, Panguy and Wallace played single figures all year, 299 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 8: got injured around. 300 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 4: Four or five. 301 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 6: Another one that was gone for there was going to 302 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 6: Kings being gone for a long. 303 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 3: While, but Gilbert and Fleggler were gone early and they 304 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 3: were still coming forth and read or top four red 305 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 3: hot around what about? 306 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 6: I still think it's disciplined, Like if you watch enough 307 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 6: of their games and you can go back to moments. 308 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 6: I think was it the Titan where they were leading, 309 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 6: was it twelve nil or something like. 310 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 7: That coming the halftime and. 311 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 6: Josh Kerk gave a really ridiculous sin bin in a way, 312 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 6: and I think he'd done that three weeks in a row. 313 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 6: And then you've got you know, Youngkertoell will come out 314 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 6: and not make a touch finder on a penalty and 315 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 6: just things like that, simple mistakes where guys are just 316 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 6: letting themselves down too often, which just backfires on the team. 317 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 6: But again you go back to the fact, that's not 318 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 6: how Bennett coaches his team. 319 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 5: Wayne Bennett's side for the history of his whole career. 320 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: What do they do? 321 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 5: They don't beat themselves and this side's beating themselves. So 322 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 5: there's something on the training paddic that's gone. 323 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 8: What about the fact it's an aging forward pack enthusiasm 324 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 8: and so far. 325 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 7: They did, they did, and. 326 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 8: So far and after a long year an excuse? 327 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: What is the reason? 328 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 4: It's a reason. 329 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: But if you buy an aging forward pack and then 330 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 3: two years later a go, well they're an aging forward. 331 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 7: Pack, Well do you think the age is playing an 332 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 7: impact on the back end of the year. 333 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 5: Maybe it is the youth of the West Tiger's full 334 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 5: pack is making more of an impact. 335 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: You know it is. You can't use that because you. 336 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 4: Bought those players. 337 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 8: I'm not taking an excuse. I'm saying it's a reason. 338 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 8: Perhaps while they're collapsing. Last year they won three of 339 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 8: their last fourteen and as you said, Craul, this year, 340 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 8: three of. 341 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 7: Their last twelve. 342 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 8: So there's clearly a problem at the back end of 343 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 8: the season, and I think ages playing a factor. 344 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 6: I do think they lack depth in their roster. I 345 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 6: think you've got to be fair, and I know they do, 346 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 6: but some clubs more than others, and they are two 347 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 6: years into their existence and there is a lack of 348 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 6: depth there. And when you lose a guy like Gilbert, 349 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 6: and you lose a guy like Flegler and then Marshall 350 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 6: King's injuries really wiped. But I'll go back to the 351 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 6: fact that I do believe they could have probably picked 352 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 6: up three or four of those wins with better discipline. 353 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: Good call that one. 354 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 4: Crawls. 355 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 3: Now the mighty Bulldogs taking on the manly Seagulls and 356 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 3: we believe it's going to be a record crowd, live 357 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 3: and exclusive Friday, five pm. And again this is going 358 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 3: to be on Fox League Bulldogs on Fight at the moment, 359 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 3: mainly Seaguals need to bounce back after last week's loss, 360 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: and they do believe it's going to be over forty 361 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 3: five thousand at this game, which is and most of 362 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 3: them will be Bulldogs, let's be honest, but incredible scenes. 363 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, it is. 364 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 6: Look, the Bulldogs have done everything to make you believe 365 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 6: they are now contenders for this premiership manly haven't Siebold 366 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 6: said before the game last week against the Tigers the 367 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 6: focus was going to be on their defense and they 368 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 6: went out and I know they had three players sin 369 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 6: bin throughout that game, but they really let themselves down 370 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 6: and they took a step backwards. If it wasn't for 371 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 6: Turbo being out there, they would have got beaten by more. 372 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 8: Do you guys clearly believe that they are genuine contenders? 373 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: Do ye? The Bulldogs the best defensive side wins? 374 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: I disagree with a lot of the experts and like 375 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 3: Gordie said, they are best defense in the competition. 376 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 4: You can win a camp. You simply can't. 377 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: And I go back as we were in a position 378 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 3: at the Roosters twenty ten where we were sort of 379 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: similar to the Bulldog mid season and we all got 380 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: on this run and everyone goes, oh, yeah, you know 381 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 3: they're confident. Confidence is so important because then you've got 382 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 3: belief and I said it a few weeks ago in 383 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 3: the players around you. Then all of a sudden, you 384 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: feel invincible and you feel like we can do this. 385 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 3: Every game that goes by, every winner they have, every 386 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 3: comeback that they know they've been behind, they come back 387 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 3: and win. The belief grows and they've got the talent 388 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 3: to do it. They don't have the talent that other 389 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: teams have got, but right now they can trump that 390 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 3: with confidence. 391 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: They get enough points. 392 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 5: Right, do you believe they can score three tries against 393 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 5: most sides? 394 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: I think they can. You reckon, they can defend three 395 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: tries and they back them if you. 396 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 3: If you ask us, you know, the Rooster's more chance 397 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 3: of beating them, a pen more chance of being the 398 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 3: in Melbourne, We're going to say yes, absolutely. But can 399 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 3: they beat all those teams on their day? I think 400 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: they can do. 401 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 5: You if if you went there and you showed them 402 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 5: a little bit of disrespect and maybe went there and go, well, like, 403 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 5: we're just going to run through this and it's not 404 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 5: going to be as tough as playing Penmuth or Melbourne 405 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 5: and Melbourne they can get some sides. I think that 406 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 5: they can surprise them because they've surprised me. From the 407 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 5: beginning of the year to the middle of the year. 408 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 5: I thought this side's improved. And from the middle of 409 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 5: the year to now they've improved in Melbourne. 410 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: And they beat the Roosters, so you know they've they've 411 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 3: knocked off a couple of those big teams, so I 412 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 3: think they can get it done, but the challenge is 413 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 3: doing it a few weeks in a run of winning 414 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: Grand Final time to boy Mitch a midst Taking a 415 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 3: pay cup would have allowed the club to clear up 416 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 3: space on the salary cap, but ultimately the NRL blocked 417 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 3: the proposal. 418 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, it come for me, but look ultimately to kind 419 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 9: of talk to Steves about it and you know how 420 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 9: to tap. I guess the management team here and we 421 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 9: sport a few options, but it wasn't meant to be. 422 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 9: But we've got some quality pays here that we need 423 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 9: to we want to keep here, and you want to 424 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 9: just build the best squad you can. So when you 425 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 9: sit on the sideline not being able to form them, 426 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 9: I guess the way you want to kind of comes 427 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 9: on the back of that. But ultimately it wasn't you know, 428 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 9: didn't get approved or anything, So I guess we'll just 429 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 9: move forward. 430 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 4: Find this fascinating. 431 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 3: Yesterday the story broke that Tom had approach the club 432 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 3: to hand some of his money in because he hadn't 433 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 3: played as many games as he would like to help 434 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 3: the club with salary cap and other players in it now. 435 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 3: Gordy and myself couldn't believe it for a second. Do 436 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 3: we believe that the club had nothing to do with 437 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 3: him apparently walking into the front of laughing at Gordy. 438 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: I just would open up a Pandora's box, because then the. 439 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 7: Fight, your laugh suggests that you think mainly was behind this. 440 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 5: Otherwise they say, no, you're not doing it, and we 441 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 5: don't put it in there. Of course, don't you say, Tommy, 442 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 5: we love you what you've done for our game. You 443 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 5: actually kept us in the game the other day. No, 444 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 5: injuries are part of it, don't you. 445 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 6: I'd be disappointed if the club did put that gilt 446 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 6: trip on him. I really would be, because, look, we 447 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 6: all know what sort of character Tom Trevoyevitch is. 448 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 7: His soul to the earth a soft. 449 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 8: Touch Tommy, and I say that totally respectfully. But if 450 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 8: you went to Tom with the proposal but that Tom 451 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 8: would dog. 452 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: But if they. 453 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 6: Did that, that's the wrong thing to do. You don't 454 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 6: do that to your star player. 455 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 5: Because gets the guilt trip on him. Malari Titan's best player. 456 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 5: He hasn't played all year. It's just a Pandora's bottle. 457 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 7: Well, the contract's a contract. It's water tight. 458 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 8: You can't expect to hand money back if you're injured, 459 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 8: just as you can't expect to go with your hand 460 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 8: out if you have a bumper year. 461 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 5: Do you know what would never happen, the manager's hand 462 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 5: back their commission too. 463 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: Surely they would, Gordy. 464 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 4: That's very truly. 465 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 3: Have you ever heard of a player walking into the 466 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 3: front office, you know? And this is that's why Gordon 467 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 3: and I were laughing last night and we thought it 468 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 3: was a gr because we just couldn't for a second 469 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 3: believe that it would happen. 470 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 4: And we're hearing rumors today. 471 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 3: I'm going to be honest that it was the club, 472 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: but I can't confirm that they're just rumors. 473 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 5: Just tap a house and a monster and all the 474 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 5: players that they've Yeah. 475 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 7: I'll ask you to you play at the highest, the 476 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 7: highest level. 477 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 8: If you had an injury every year, would you consider 478 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 8: hand in the back if you felt somewhat guilty about 479 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 8: not giving the club what you'd promise to give them. 480 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 5: If maybe more a suspension and it was my fault 481 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 5: then getting injured, because injury injuries are part of the game. 482 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 5: Injury and then I'll watch blokes like Phil Lee that 483 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 5: got injured twice at twice at training and had to 484 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 5: give the game away. 485 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: It's also so no. 486 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 3: It's depressing too, like you're not playing like you you 487 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 3: want to be playing. 488 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 4: You want to be helping your teammates. 489 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 3: You feel guilty as it is being off the field, 490 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 3: and Tom would as well. It's not a good feeling 491 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 3: and your career doesn't go forever. Tom's had a lot 492 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 3: of injuries. What if he gets a career any injury 493 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 3: next year he's taking a pay cut to give to 494 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 3: the club. 495 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 9: You know. 496 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 4: It's it's just that. 497 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 6: You're going to an agreement for the good and the bad, 498 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 6: don't you. That's what a contract's supposed to be about you, all. 499 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 4: Right, just like a marriage cross James says. 500 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 3: Jared hard Greas National let the team down as the 501 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 3: rooster's enforced a cup the three game being for a 502 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:51,479 Speaker 3: high show on Sam verrels. 503 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 2: Couple games left for Jared here at the club, so 504 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 2: from the missing another three games for us as he's 505 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 2: really disappointed himself. 506 00:20:59,359 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 4: It's not ideal. 507 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: We know that whenever we have him out there with us, 508 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 2: we feel so confidence and it's disappointed not to have 509 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: him there for the next three games. He's apologized to 510 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 2: me and the boys. He knows he let us down 511 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 2: a bit, but plays. 512 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: On that line. 513 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 2: He's done that for his whole career and that just 514 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: happened sometimes where he gets it slightly wrong. 515 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 4: He has to miss some time. 516 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: I know he'll be wanted to make it up for 517 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 2: us Millid it comes back in finals and finals week. 518 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 4: J w H. 519 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 3: I love him. I love the way that he plays. 520 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: He's a great guy. He's only got a few games left. 521 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 3: But I have to ask the question, did he let 522 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: the Roosters down without him? 523 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 7: I think you did. 524 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 6: I sat here a few weeks ago and defended him 525 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 6: for the last one. I thought the suspension was over 526 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 6: the top, but I'm not going to do it again. 527 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 6: He's eleven minutes into his return and he comes up 528 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 6: with this, you know what I mean, And now he's 529 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 6: out for another three weeks. 530 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 7: He's got to be better. 531 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 6: I know he's played this way throughout his career, and 532 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 6: Trent Robinson's come out in the past and said, we 533 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 6: don't want him to change. And like you said last night, Gordy, 534 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 6: you don't want him to change, but you can't keep 535 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 6: getting suspended like. 536 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 8: The game has gone past Jared sadly to many in the. 537 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 7: Last not when he stays on the field. 538 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 8: The concern I've got, and I'll ask you Gord, is 539 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 8: that he is the fiercest prop of his generation, arguably 540 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 8: the best prop in the modern era. But how bad 541 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 8: will his legacy be tarnished through these constant suspensions? 542 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: The club has been around for a hun You don't. 543 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 8: Think when people talk about Jared in ten to fifteen 544 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 8: years time, they will just talk football or will they go, gee, 545 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 8: you had a lot of time on the sideline. 546 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: Les Boyd just made the Hall of Fame Jared. 547 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 6: Jared does play in the three hundred games, three hundred 548 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 6: games in the toughest position on the field and played 549 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 6: like a warrior every week. Every time he takes that ball. 550 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 5: Up in plays like he's a nineteen eighties front rower 551 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 5: playing in the wrong air, but he's playing the right game. 552 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: I love watching him play. 553 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 5: In the eighties, he would be put up on a mantelpiece. 554 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 5: Maybe it have statues everywhere because of the way. 555 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: Now I'm thinking about Jared though, he's a team first player. 556 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 3: If you watch him train and he is an animal, 557 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 3: He's one of the fittest forwards I ever played with. 558 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 3: He puts the team first. He works his ass off 559 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: and his legs lining pens. 560 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 6: And he's had to overcome some significant injuries too, hasn't he. 561 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 6: Like we sat there four or five years ago and 562 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 6: we questioned if he was going to come back from 563 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 6: that knee injury, and he came back and won premiership. 564 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 5: He does he does some silly things watching the foot 565 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 5: he does. 566 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 6: You tell me that would you like to run out 567 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 6: behind him? 568 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: Yeah? Was he? And that's it? And then that's the point. 569 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 5: So like when you play I played against Mark guy right, 570 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 5: and you had to know where he was in the line. 571 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 5: Adrian Morley was exactly the roberts Ian Roberts Smantles. There 572 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 5: was guys there that and Les Davison. You just had 573 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 5: to look to see where just when you're playing against 574 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 5: blocker in his prime. 575 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 8: The amount of leadership he's got at that club, he 576 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 8: is the one that they follow, He is the one 577 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 8: that they look up to. 578 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 3: It's the intimidation factor, like you just said, but he 579 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 3: also lifts everyone in that club, not just a player, 580 00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 3: as I'm talking staff as well. 581 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 4: Jared's congratulations, but enjoy the. 582 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: Next three weeks. 583 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 3: Kevra Murray faces the judiciary tonight. Thoughts on this is 584 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 3: he a chance of getting it downgraded right or trying 585 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 3: to get it off. 586 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: You'd hope. 587 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 6: So I don't think it's a grade too. I think 588 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 6: it's a grade one. I think the Bunker thought initially 589 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 6: it was not a sin bin, and then it took 590 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 6: a minute to come up with the right decision, didn't 591 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 6: it And then it gets hit with the grade too. 592 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 5: Is anybody from South's going to go with him? Sorry, 593 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 5: that's not that bad, you know. 594 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 7: And I think it was still in a contact of 595 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 7: their head. 596 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 4: It was a flush. 597 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 5: I realized, Great, and when you look like he's got 598 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 5: his head behind his teammates, he's just coming in. Accidents 599 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 5: happen for me, I don't think. Yeah, I don't think 600 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 5: that's just bad. 601 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: All right? 602 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 4: Of course what should be for the week? 603 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: For be for the week? 604 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 6: Look, we've all had our say on the referees this week. 605 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 6: But I think that that Bunker decision from Leam Kennedy 606 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 6: the other night not to sin bin Stephen Crichton, for me, 607 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 6: it just rereaked of confusion and I think it points 608 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 6: to the bigger issue now you hear Graham Bensley come 609 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 6: out and he says that that one bad decision over 610 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 6: the weekend makes other decisions look bad even when they 611 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 6: were right. 612 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: I disagree with that. 613 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 6: I think over the course of the season, we've seen 614 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 6: so much indecision, inconsistency, confusion among so many areas of 615 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 6: the game. I'd love to hear the referee side of this, 616 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 6: without the NRL telling and what to say. I'd love 617 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 6: to hear from their mouth, what's going on there, what 618 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 6: they see as the issues. Are they being over coached? 619 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 6: Are the rules too complex? Are they confused? Because we 620 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 6: talk about having this summit at the end of the season, 621 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 6: involving the top minds in the game, what's the use 622 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 6: of having a summit if you're not getting their perspective, 623 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 6: They're honest perspective without any repercussions. They need to be 624 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 6: able to tell them the story. 625 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 5: It's got to be the current players that actually get 626 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 5: hit in the head right and actually make the tackles, 627 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 5: probably got to have independent doctors there to talk them 628 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 5: through the consequences. And then you have the referees that go, well, 629 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 5: what do you want us to police? And then if 630 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 5: we all can get roughly on the same page, but 631 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 5: at the moment, none of us are on the same 632 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 5: But the problem. 633 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 6: With the rest too, I believe, is they're the top. 634 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 6: They're the top in their profession. Like they're professional referees. 635 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 6: They don't get to the NRL level because they're bad referees. 636 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 6: They get there because they're good referees. But it seems 637 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 6: to me that they're being overcoached. They're analyzing when they 638 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 6: go into a game too much about what we should 639 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 6: be expecting instead of just going out and refereeing to 640 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 6: the has lost the dressing room. No, I'm just saying. 641 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 6: I'm just saying that I want to see, I want 642 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 6: to hear what they've got to say. 643 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 4: I said that last night. Do you think they look confused? 644 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 4: Of course they do look both. 645 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 6: Everyone knowing what we've seen this year and watching that 646 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 6: Staf even Crichton tackle the other night and knew straight 647 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 6: away that's a sindin. Now you might not agree that 648 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 6: it's a sinbin that what I've seen this year. 649 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 5: No, the tackle I didn't think was a sin bin. 650 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 5: Roger falling over, I thought he's got hit in the head. 651 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 5: I didn't think the tackle was that for ocean. 652 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 7: You mightn't think that. 653 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 6: You mightn't think that, but on what we've seen this year, 654 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 6: I think ninety nine percent of people Gordy would have 655 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 6: agreed that that was a Sindy once Roger. The fact 656 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 6: that a man in the bunker who's a professional in 657 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 6: his craft can can have, you know, second guess himself 658 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 6: on that, it's got to point to confusion. It's got 659 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 6: a point to he must be taking what am I. 660 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: Looking at it? 661 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 5: Well, do we have someone from the judiciary that watches 662 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,959 Speaker 5: these tackles all the time, the one that gives them 663 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 5: the weeks? 664 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: Do they sit in them? But because they're the ones 665 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: that make. 666 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 6: Bunk for referee, the bunker officials should be able to 667 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 6: see that Gordon because we all can. And that's what 668 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 6: I'm saying to me. It points to this overall confusion. 669 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 6: I heard Ricky Stewart talking about it a few weeks ago, 670 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 6: where it is used to just name the referee. Be 671 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 6: a penalty, got too many voices in their ears right. 672 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 5: Through through all our career is to be a penalty 673 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 5: or a sand off, either to be really bad, to 674 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 5: be a sendoff, or is just a penalty? And we 675 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 5: moved on and then you'd go to the judiciary, right, 676 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 5: and then they would deal with it which way. Now 677 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 5: we're trying to be the judiciary every night. 678 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 8: I spoke to a referee or three weeks ago, and 679 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 8: he was a former leading reference about fifteen years ago, 680 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 8: and even that wasn't Bill even back then. He said, 681 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 8: the amount of noise in my earpiece is overpowering at times, 682 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 8: it's confusing. 683 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 7: Its SAPs you of confidence. 684 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 8: You don't know which way you should go for fear 685 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 8: that they're telling you it's right, it's wrong. Get the 686 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 8: bunker out of their ears. The bunkers already intruding into 687 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 8: our lives too much. Get rid of the bunker out 688 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 8: of their lugs. Let them referee, just like the players 689 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 8: are allowed to play. 690 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 3: Very true, all right, from the beef of the week 691 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 3: to bulldogs bite. 692 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 4: What have you got for us this week, don't you? 693 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 8: I've done a piece quotting the Panthers CEO Brian Fletcher, 694 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 8: who was a bit miffed that Royce. As we can 695 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 8: see they're on the screen, the great Roycey and Brandy Alexander, 696 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 8: arguably one of the greatest half backs of the modern era, 697 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 8: have been omitted or overlooked from. 698 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: The Hall of Fame. 699 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 8: Now, look, the Hall of Fame obviously has got about 700 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 8: one hundred and thirty inductees. We can't fit them all in, 701 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 8: and there's always going to be some that missed out 702 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 8: who we think should be in. But I think it's 703 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 8: a fair knock to say that Royce and Brandy, who 704 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 8: coached Captain Penrith to their first Grandpa in ninety one. 705 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 7: Should have been in there. Thoughts. 706 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 3: I think if Brandy and roysterre in there, I wouldn't 707 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 3: have a problem with it. But there is a lot 708 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 3: of players they could be in it. I mean, I 709 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 3: just thought about Anthony Minicello. Minzo won two Premierships, He's 710 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 3: played Origins, Test matches and you know, and he was 711 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 3: one of the best fullbacks of his era. As I said, 712 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 3: Royce and Brandy a legends, and I love it if 713 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 3: they're both in it. But there's I think there's a. 714 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 5: Lot there's a lot, a lot of tough decision, you know, Steve, 715 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 5: Steve Wilder's, Benny Elias, Denny Bideiris and I played against 716 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 5: all those three, and Royce was in Benny and Steve. 717 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 4: Wadas's, So there's Kevy's Kevy. 718 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 5: Kevy and then Kevy Waders so he's won six six 719 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 5: Compson he was a tremendous partnership. And Ricky and Laurier 720 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 5: in there, so not everybody's in there. And then someone 721 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 5: that like Wendell Saylor. I think he changed the way 722 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 5: wingers played. I thought, you know, they were all Kerry 723 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 5: bo said eighty to eighty five kilo, ninety kilo, then 724 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 5: one hundred and five kilo. 725 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 6: Winger company was across generations have missed out. Look, they 726 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 6: wouldn't look out of place. Rod Reddy's another guy we're 727 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 6: talking about out the battu. Yeah, there's so many, mate, 728 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 6: isn't there? 729 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: So you've still got. 730 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 8: To keep it reasonably elite. I know the Immortals is 731 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 8: on another level. There's only one hundred and thirty or 732 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 8: going back to nine one hundred and eight. We can't 733 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 8: just open the gates and let everybody through. Otherwise it 734 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 8: loses the fact that it's a Hall of Fame. 735 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 4: All right, are you Crawls that you dog champion? 736 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: You will? 737 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 4: Mark, thanks very proud of. 738 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 3: Up next is the Players of Respective for Justin Hodges 739 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 3: and Mitchell Pierce in Tomorrow Night, A kid a Zoo 740 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 3: de fans, he's undefeated record, a huge night of US 741 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 3: training boxing and a sold that I c C and 742 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 3: the only place you can watch it is on main events. 743 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 4: It's just for to take it. It's just the need 744 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 4: to make you