1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: On scoring leads Ostrodia. This is the Wider Panalty Show. 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panehy Show. Coming 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: up tonight, the ourb News and government's green hydrogen dreams 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 2: in DISARRAYUS costs blow up fourfold. The Panel will be 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 2: here to discuss that shortly the leading child gender physician 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: in the country cops heavy criticism in the family court. 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: Stepanie Bastian will join me to cover that unfolding story. 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: Kosher Gator will have the latest from the US, including 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: the violent far left protests and the always roll Alex 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: Stein will be here to celebrate Pride Months. You don't 11 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: want to miss that, and Left is losing It is 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: a little bit nausea inducing tonight. You've been warned. 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 3: This woman has been a heroin a hero for me 14 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: for so many years. 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 4: I've been myra from. 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: Macfarre But first joining me is the Panel News Corps 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: Senior writer Patrick Carline and research fellow and director of 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: the Institute of Public Affairs rul's program, Colleen Hearken. Let's 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: start with the Prime Minister's speech today. He addressed the 20 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: National Press Club in a speech that was filled with 21 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 2: all sorts of motherhood statements. Here is what I'm talking about. 22 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 5: Our vision is for a society that is a microcosm 23 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 5: for the world, where all are respected and valued, and 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 5: our diversity is recognized as a strength, where our international 25 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 5: relationships in the fastest growing region of the world in 26 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 5: human history benefited us, but also provide a platform for 27 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 5: us to play a positive and stabilizing global role in 28 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 5: uncertain times. 29 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: Colleen, all very warm and fuzzy. Diversity is our strength, 30 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: all the usual nonsense we've come to expect. Was there 31 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: much substance, No. 32 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 6: There was a lot of lofty motherhood statements. It was 33 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 6: like reading a Hallmark gift card early. You know, real 34 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 6: difference in people's lives, global vision and leadership. But the 35 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 6: problem with this is that it's not ambition, it's actually 36 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 6: negligence because the real difference so he can make in 37 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 6: people's lives is the cost of living. 38 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: And their energy bills. 39 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 6: And you know, the economy is driven by the cost 40 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 6: of a foundation is driven Sorry, the foundation of the 41 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 6: economy is driven by the cost. 42 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: Of our energy. 43 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 6: And he really should be focusing on what's broken at home. 44 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 6: You know, people are barely able to keep the lights on. 45 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 6: It was a sort of you know, like being at 46 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 6: an afternoon tea with the girls and a few glasses 47 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 6: of champagne and not really concentrating on what people need 48 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 6: him to do. 49 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 7: Well. 50 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: The Prime Minister's Patrick hoping to have some FaceTime with 51 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: President Trump. How is he going to explain Australia's reluctance 52 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: to increase defense spending So many of our allies have 53 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: and we seem to be a little bit racalcitrant saying no, 54 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 2: you're not going to tell us what to do. 55 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 8: Well, there is one theory of thought that you will 56 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 8: actually have that and then announce a rise in spending, 57 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 8: which politically might be savvy if you like. Look, we've 58 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 8: been like this country with the ostrich head in the 59 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 8: sand for so long we're basically we're just denied talking 60 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 8: about it or thinking about this fact that the world 61 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 8: has changed. We have to be able to defend ourselves. 62 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 8: And it's something that's become a separating soul over a 63 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 8: long time that we're in this position where we don't 64 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 8: spend any money on defense, we have no great plan 65 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 8: for spending money on defense, and we're decades behind where 66 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 8: we need to be in a quickly changing world. 67 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: Colleen the plan appears to be America will save us 68 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: if anything happens, and America is asking us to raise 69 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: defense spending to three three and a half percent of 70 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: GDP And if we're not willing to do that, can 71 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: we have this expectation they're going to come and save 72 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: the day. 73 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 6: Well why would they if we're not going to be 74 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 6: proper partners in this process, why would they come out 75 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 6: and help save us? 76 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And just finally with the Prime Minister, he is 77 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: in a blessed position. He's just one in a landslide. 78 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: He's got the Greens in the Senate just he doesn't 79 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: even need to deal with the crossbenches. But Patrick, the 80 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 2: financial issues facing this country are real and a landslide 81 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 2: doesn't change that. 82 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 4: No, that's right. 83 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 8: Look, energy bills is the obvious place to go on this. 84 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 8: Energy bills are going up, cost of living is going up. 85 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 8: These are things that Australands have been feeling since twenty 86 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 8: twenty two, since Elbow was first elected. He's not really 87 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 8: saying anything that's addressing those issues in a massive way, 88 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 8: and I think that's why today's speech is so disappointing. 89 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 8: He does have a mandate, really, he has the numbers 90 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 8: in the House of Representatives, he can do things, and 91 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 8: basically today's speech suggests that he doesn't really need to 92 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 8: do much. He just wants to sort of dabble around 93 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 8: the edges. 94 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: Well. 95 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: On energy policy, let's check in on how the Abanza 96 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: government's Future Made in Australia plan is going and Intercontinential 97 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: Intercontinental Energy, the co owner of two massive green hydrogen 98 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: projects in Western Australia, has conceded initial costs for delivering 99 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 2: green energy from these facilities is going to be between 100 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: eight and eleven dollars a kilogram. Eventually, they hope that 101 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: falls to about four do dollars a kilogram, But according 102 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 2: to MSD market analysts, sol cabinic hydrogen prices need to 103 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: be below two dollars a kilogram to become close to 104 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: competitive with other energy sources. Eight to eleven dollars a 105 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 2: kilogram equates to over sixty dollars a giga jewel, which 106 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 2: no major energy user can afford. Meanwhile, the average cost 107 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: of natural gas patrick in Australia is just under twelve 108 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: dollars per giga jewel. This is again one of the 109 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: prime ministers the Labor parties dreams about green hydrogen. We're 110 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: going to become this renewable superpower, and the evidence so 111 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: far is not there. Our prices are going up, and 112 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 2: the more we invest in this sector, the more prices increase. 113 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 8: Look, countries and energy companies all over the world have 114 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 8: looked at green hydrogen. They've tried to make it work. 115 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 8: It's simply not viable at the cost that it comes at. 116 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 8: At the moment, the technology doesn't exist. And the fact 117 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 8: that green hydrogen is a pillar of our energy future 118 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 8: according to this government is hilarious and it's really sad 119 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 8: because it doesn't exist yet. No, it's not on the table. 120 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 8: It's not an alternative, and it can't be an alternative 121 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 8: until the technology exists. 122 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're obsessed with green hydrogen, Colleen, but we've got 123 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: plenty of gas, coal, uranium, all very reliable sources of 124 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: energy that were not properly using. 125 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, and this is just recklessness, reader, because it's four 126 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 6: to five times the cost of the gas and they're 127 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 6: wanting to call this a plan for the future. Can 128 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 6: you imagine as CEO announcing to the shareholders that we're 129 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 6: going to invest ten dollars and maybe in twenty years 130 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 6: time we might get a return on investment. You know, 131 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 6: it's not an investment, it's ideological indulgence. 132 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: It is so ideological. This is they've just completely abandoned 133 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: reality and ideology is ruling the day. Now to Channel 134 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: ten's decision to act its flagship current affairs program, the 135 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: Project that's been on air for sixteen years, our colleague 136 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: Steve Price is defending the unwatchable lefty talk Fairsie has 137 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: been the sole conservative voice, some would say token conservative 138 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: voice on the program, and he writes in the Herald 139 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: Sun that people dancing on the grave of tens the 140 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: project are ignorant. It means that virtually all live television 141 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: bar some AFL panel shows and some comedy programs and 142 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: the six PM news are now run out of Sydney. 143 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: Melbourne is the big loser today and the city will 144 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: never get back what it had ever Again. Colleen, I 145 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: don't think the whole Melbourne Sydney rivalry comes into this. 146 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: That's not why people are mocking this program. 147 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I have to confess I've never actually watched 148 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 6: Project for sixty Yeah, I've never actually watched it for 149 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 6: the reasons that you just said. You know, it's a 150 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 6: lobsided not balanced perspective of the day's news. But to 151 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 6: Steve Price's comment about business leaving Melbourne, IPA research will 152 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 6: tell you that there's one hundred and thirty thousand businesses 153 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 6: have left Victoria in the last year. So it's not 154 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 6: just something like the project. It's not just this sort 155 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 6: of lack of reflective of what people want to see 156 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 6: in here. There's an undercurrent of businesses leaving Melbourne regardless 157 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 6: of the project. 158 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: Wow, one hundred and thirty thousand. What is the predominant 159 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: reason that's happening. 160 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 6: Well, red tape, difficulty of doing business in Victoria, all 161 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 6: of those sort of economic pressures. 162 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 2: State taxes were correct at all. Patrick, I can't believe 163 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: Colleen has not watched any project in sixteen years. Surely 164 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: you've caught an episode here and there. 165 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 8: Not for many years, I think, to be fair, it 166 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 8: is aimed at the audience far younger than us. 167 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: It was sort of sixteen years ago you were that young. 168 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 8: That's true, okay, But it always seemed that there was 169 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 8: always a hint of sanctimony in the messaging of it. 170 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 2: Wasn't that That's what I did like, it was the 171 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: mix of sanctimony arrogance mixed with stupidity. I mean, if 172 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,119 Speaker 2: you have the sanctimony without the stupidity, or the stupidity 173 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: without the sanctimony, could work. But is it sad though 174 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: for Melbourne that it's no longer here? 175 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 8: Look, I think Price you made a better point when 176 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 8: he talked about panel shows being balanced. You don't see 177 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 8: that on the ABC as a starting point. I mean, 178 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 8: I always grow up to think that good TV was 179 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 8: sort of disagreement and conflict and passionate opinions and heavy 180 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 8: debating if you like, And you don't see a lot 181 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 8: of that anymore. The middle has been lost on TV. 182 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: But I I think the panel provided that. It really didn't. 183 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: But I mean it is commercial TV. They're not obliged 184 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: to have that balance. They don't have the charter like 185 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: the ABC do. And here the ABC never live up 186 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: to that. Now this is only in Victoria story another 187 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 2: disappointment for the Victorian taxpayer. The Labor government here have 188 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 2: spent two hundred and fifty million dollars on a high 189 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: speed express busway from Doncaster to Melbourne that was supposed 190 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: to be high speed as the name suggests, cut down 191 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: travel times. But despite those promises from Premier Allen. It 192 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: seems like this bus trip could take even longer, Colleen, 193 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: because instead of one hundred kilometer speed limits, we might 194 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: be down to as low as sixty in sections. So 195 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: we've spent two hundred and fifty million dollars to have 196 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: a longer bus trip to the city from Doncasters. 197 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 6: It's like, well, it's like a Monty Python episode, isn't 198 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 6: it It is. It's ridiculous, And apparently, of course there's 199 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 6: issues with the trains as well. 200 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: There's always issues with the trade. 201 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 6: That the new trains don't actually fit on the gauge 202 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 6: of the new infrastructure that's been built. So it's just 203 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 6: a crazy situation and like an extreme waste of taxpace 204 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 6: money not doing the planning that's required. 205 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: Patrick the committee. Comedic value aside, this is a pretty 206 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: massive stuff up, two hundred and fifty million dollars and 207 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 2: very questionable value. 208 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 8: It's not funny anymore. I mean, the Northeast links a 209 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 8: little funny. The budgets are blown out. I drive through 210 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 8: there going to and from home from time to time. 211 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 8: It's just like a bomb site. It's been like that 212 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 8: for years. And the idea that all that all that 213 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 8: waiting in traffic jams is going to amount to something 214 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 8: that's not even as good as what it was before. 215 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 8: In this context is so galling. No, it's not funny anymore. 216 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: It's a little bit funny, but you're not for the taxpayers. 217 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: I've got to admit it before you go. The United 218 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: Youth Bradge has made some unbelievable claims saying that Queenslanders 219 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: young Queenslanders can't have a night out or see their 220 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: friends because they're terrified they're being targeted by their government's 221 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 2: adult crime at Old Time youth crime crackdown. I think 222 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: you're only targeted if you're breaking the law. The UN's 223 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: got no idea. They've tried to dictate to the Queensland 224 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: government what to do. Premier Kristap fully had no time 225 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: for that, and they're continuing on with their campaign. 226 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 6: Right behind Christophully on this one. People have a right 227 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 6: to feel safe when they go out, and I don't 228 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 6: know what these people think that they do that they 229 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 6: go out, that they can't just go out and have 230 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 6: a good time unless. 231 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: They break the law. 232 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 6: I mean, it's an absurd sort of proposition to say 233 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 6: that they're being targeted, you know, and Victoria is having 234 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 6: a similar scenario about youth crime, and I know that 235 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 6: the Coalition are talking about break what does it breach? 236 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 6: Bail do jail time. It's the same scenario. I think 237 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 6: people have fed up with not being able to live 238 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 6: their civil life in a comfortable, expected way to be safe. 239 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 2: Patrick, you've got teenage children. Are they scared to be 240 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: out and about in Queensland if you're out there for 241 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: a holiday. 242 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 8: Look, I'm pretty sure this didn't resonate anywhere, but especially 243 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 8: as Colin was saying, in Victoria. I mean the premier 244 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 8: up there in Queensland has talked about adult crime, adult time. 245 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 8: Wouldn't we love to have that down here? 246 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 2: Oh? 247 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 8: Yes, But I do invite the author of that report 248 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 8: to come down and go shopping in Victoria and perhaps 249 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 8: we'll have some machette wielding years running past. 250 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: And it'll be very enriching for them, I'm sure, Patrick, 251 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: Carli and Colleen Harkin thank you so much for your 252 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: time tonight. Now, as reported by The Australian newspaper, Australia's 253 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: foremost gender medicine expert and the lead author of the 254 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: nation's guidelines on so called gender firming care Michelle Telfer 255 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 2: was heavily criticized by family called Judge Andrew Strom for 256 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: giving misleading evidence in support of a mother who wanted 257 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: her child to be prescribed puberty blockers. Now this judgment 258 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: has again called into question the integrity treatment of gender 259 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: confused kids. Judge Andrew Strum in this case strip the 260 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: mother of custody and effectively block the twelve year old 261 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: from accessing these sort of gender treatments, but also criticize 262 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: the Royal Children's Hospital here in Melbourne and its gender clinic. 263 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: The Australian also reports that Justice Strum question the Australian 264 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: Standards of Care and Treatment Guidelines for trans and gender 265 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: diverse Children and Adolescents authored by Professor Telfer for not 266 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: recognizing children may not be capable of making life altering 267 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: medical decisions about their gender identity. Is said, it is 268 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: concerning that an oddly binary approach is adopted in relation 269 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 2: to children, especially of the age of the child the 270 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: subject of these proceedings. That is, to affirm unreservedly those 271 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: who present with concerns regarding their gender, brooking no questioning thereof. 272 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: He wrote in the judgment, the case of the mother 273 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 2: is is that because the child says so, the child 274 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 2: is and must unquestionably be affirmed as being female in 275 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: gender identity. However, that overlooks the obvious, namely that the 276 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 2: child is still a child, and not even if it 277 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: matters a teenager. Joining me now is Women's Forum Australia's 278 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: head of Advocacies, Stephanie Bastian and steph everything I read there, 279 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 2: the comments from the judge just seem like pure common sense. 280 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: But it's common sense we have not heard in the 281 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: family court on these sort of issues. How significant is 282 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: this case? 283 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 9: This is the most significant development so far. Michelle Telfer 284 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 9: is the head of medicine at the Royal Children's Hospital. 285 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 9: She's also, as you mentioned, the author of the so 286 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 9: called standards of care, and the judge has delivered a 287 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 9: damning appraisal of her standards of care and the treatments. 288 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 9: It's very clear that these treatments are not evidence based, 289 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 9: they are based on ideology. Children can't consent to these treatments. 290 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 9: The side effects, which include things like infertility, cancer, damage 291 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 9: to bone structure are horrendous. They cannot consent, and quite 292 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 9: often also children who are struggling with gender dysphoria also 293 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 9: struggle with other chomorbid mental health issues, including anxiety, depression 294 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 9: and autism, and arguably adults young adults with these mental 295 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 9: health issues also can't consent, which we will see. There's 296 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 9: a case being run in the Supreme Court in Victoria 297 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 9: with mel Jeffries. Will know where that sits in due time. 298 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 9: But the fact of the matter is you're dealing with 299 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 9: bunderable people who cannot consent and the treatments that they 300 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 9: are being prescribed lack the evidence, which we know this 301 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 9: should be enough for Health Minister Mark Butler and Prime 302 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 9: Minister Anthony Alberesi to intervene immediately to halt these treatments 303 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 9: and to hold a national review rather than the soft 304 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 9: approach that they're taking at the moment. 305 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 2: Well, if it wasn't for this case and this course 306 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 2: of action being challenged in the courts, that twelve year 307 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: old child would be on puberty blockers right now, and again, 308 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 2: how can a twelve year old consent to that when 309 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 2: the consequences can be quite serious, and when we know 310 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 2: of so many cases where these gender treatments have had 311 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: all sorts of medical consequences that the child will just 312 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: have no understanding of at that age. Now nine newspapers 313 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 2: columnist Peter Fitzsimon's The Pirate has declared shame on those 314 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: who whip up hate against trans athletes for clicks and votes. 315 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 2: This is an article he wrote recently where he said 316 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 2: the nastiest and most ruthless purveyors of hate bait continually 317 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 2: push out a catastrophically cliched warning that the sports world 318 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 2: is a wash, with swarthy truck drivers wearing tutus and 319 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 2: time's storming and swarming their way through girls' changing rooms 320 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 2: and fields to lear and sneer their way to every 321 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: trophy going. The truth of the matter that we are 322 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: talking about mostly just a handful of gentle souls with 323 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 2: the extraordinary courage to live as what they believe is 324 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: their true gender and want to be included in sport. 325 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: Doesn't rate as hate bait, So forget it. Your job 326 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: is to whip it up. That's quite an amusing, unintentionally 327 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 2: amusing little die tribe their Stephanie. But I think the 328 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: Pirate is not happy with you or me, it seems. 329 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 9: Look, I just hope female athletes aren't paying attention to 330 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 9: this latest dribble from Pirate Pete but it just shows 331 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 9: how out of touch he is. He is a man 332 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 9: telling women who are talking about their sex base rights 333 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 9: that they should be quiet to protect the feelings of 334 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 9: these so called trans athletes. A young woman from Victoria 335 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 9: called into Ben Bordham's show this week and she talked 336 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 9: about her experience of being confronted with a transathlete and 337 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 9: I want to share it because I think it's very relevant. 338 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 9: But she is five foot to four. He was six 339 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 9: point six foot two, and she talked about being confronted 340 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 9: with him in the change room and her fear of 341 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 9: being crushed into the pavement in the event of an accident, 342 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 9: and she talked about the fact that the violation that 343 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 9: she felt when his body brushed against hers to block 344 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 9: her from shooting a goal. She is representative of many 345 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 9: girls around this country and Pirate Pete has no concern 346 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 9: or consideration for what these girls are going through. And 347 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 9: it is absolutely ridiculous that he is so out of 348 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 9: touch that he would mock these women and the very 349 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 9: real plight that they are fighting but also fighting to 350 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 9: be able to speak in public about. 351 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 2: Well, this is I think what the consequence of this 352 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 2: article is those of us who have been reporting on this, 353 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 2: and I've been writing about it for a decade before 354 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 2: he was a big issue. I'm not going to be silenced, 355 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 2: but I do worry whether young girls, women who are 356 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 2: competing in sports where there are men present, men who 357 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: identify as women present, whether they're going to be discouraged 358 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: from speaking because they're being called nasty and spreading hate 359 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 2: bait and what are the other hyperbolic language the pirate 360 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: used there? And that's really the effect of this activism 361 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 2: from the left is to silence women who are being 362 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 2: impacted by these men. 363 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 9: Absolutely, and I think I'm fearful that that is the 364 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 9: intent from Pete's article. He is trying to continue that 365 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 9: culture of silencing people who oppose this ideology, and he 366 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 9: will do it at all costs, with no regard to 367 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 9: the women and girls that he is impacting. 368 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Stephanie Bastian, thanks for your time. Still to come. 369 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 2: Left is Losing at plus the latest from the US, 370 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: including the violent fi Left protests in La Kosher Gator 371 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 2: as the details. You're watching the Reader Patty Show, and 372 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: it's time for Lefties Losing it, and we will get 373 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: back to the demented Left's latest round of riots shortly, 374 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 2: but first the Tony Awards were on overnight. You didn't 375 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 2: know if near the did I until this dude caught 376 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 2: my eye on the red carpet. Stunning and brave. That's 377 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: Cole Escola, who beat out the likes of George Clooney 378 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 2: and John Michael Hill to win the Tony for Best 379 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 2: Leading Actor. And the media were of course keen to 380 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 2: trumpet the fact that he was the first openly non 381 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 2: by artists to win Leading Actor. Yes, a groundbreaking night, 382 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: and the publications were also keen to mangle the English 383 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 2: language to respect a scholars. They them pronouns. USA Today 384 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: reported they are now the first non binary performer to 385 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 2: win in that Tony category. I mean they are they 386 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 2: multiple people. It was a piece just rendered nonsensical with 387 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 2: deliberate grammar crimes. And let's not forget the non binary 388 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,479 Speaker 2: dude here says he prefers they then pronouns, but was 389 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: nevertheless very happy to be nominated and win the very 390 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: gendered Best Leading Actor award. 391 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 10: All the scholer if you want to thank the other nominees, 392 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 10: George and John and Harry and Daniel and Louis. It's 393 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 10: an honor to be in your company, the most important 394 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 10: people in my life, my friends who are here tonight, 395 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 10: Jeffrey jen Ben, everyone watching at home, Christian Dakota, the 396 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 10: whole Gang, John Claudia Oh and Tibo from Grinder. 397 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 2: Can't forget Tbo from Grind. I here's fun na less 398 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 2: one is this duo the Queens of Performative Caring, as 399 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 2: Douglas Murray would call them, And gosh, don't they love 400 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 2: each other? Or at least they pretend to get your 401 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: buckets ready? This is nausea inducing. 402 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 3: This woman has been a heroine, a hero for me 403 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 3: for so many years I've admired from Afar, and this 404 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 3: is the first time I've had the opportunity to sit 405 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: down and have a conversation because she's written a book 406 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 3: called A Different Kind of Power, And I love that 407 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 3: you call it that because the different kind of power 408 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 3: is kindness. 409 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 410 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 11: It's all those things that you think are weaknesses or 411 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 11: a taught are weaknesses. Empathy, sensitivity, self doubt and humility. 412 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 4: That's powerful. 413 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 3: What I admire is that you're a Prime Minister and 414 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 3: you made a decision that I am going to have 415 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 3: kindness as a principle from my administration. 416 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 2: Told you it was gross, but we'll get through it together. 417 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: It's okay. What did zindata and say? This is all 418 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: about kindness? Empathy, sensitivity, self doubt, and humility are just 419 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 2: like this. 420 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 11: Breaking the rules could kill someone close to you to 421 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 11: maintain compliance, and there will be spot check's implants for 422 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 11: anyone who is not vaccinated right now. Unless you choose 423 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 11: to be, you will not be able to enjoy the 424 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 11: freedoms of other New Zealanders if you don't comply with 425 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 11: the rules, who run the risk of forcing us to 426 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 11: extend the period of lockdown. For that information, do feel 427 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 11: free to visit at any time to clarify any roamor 428 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 11: you may hear COVID nineteen dot govt dot NZ. Otherwise 429 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 11: dismiss anything else. We will continue to be your single 430 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 11: source of. 431 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: Truth, single source of truth. Just in this truth not 432 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: the truth truth. Yes, the former Prime min through New Zealand, 433 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 2: who impose some of the most illiberal, inhumane lockdowns anywhere 434 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: in the world. She even banned pregnant New Zealand women 435 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 2: from returning home, even from a war zone. This poor 436 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 2: lass had to seek help from the Taliban because Jaisinda 437 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 2: Adurn was too busy playing the media's favorite leftist darling 438 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: to take care of her own citizens. She's the leader 439 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: who preaches about love, tolerance and kindness, but oversaw the 440 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 2: rise of huge societal problems in New Zealand, from homelessness 441 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 2: to race relations. Remember when she promised shelter for every 442 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 2: homeless New Zealander. But because she's an inept clown and 443 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 2: not really interested in exercising kindness or sound policy, the 444 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: problem exploded under her watch. Just a couple of years 445 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: after that promise. Well, there were record numbers waiting for 446 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 2: public housing record and that was before COVID hit Well done, 447 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: Jacinda a hero? Oprah called her, no, not a hero, 448 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 2: a terrible leader who made life harder for ordinary New Zealanders. 449 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 2: And you quit before that could boot out. But here 450 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 2: she is with Oprah rewriting history. 451 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 3: Did you have a kindness gathering of faminess? 452 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 12: Do you know? 453 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 11: We'd spend a lot of time looking at what was 454 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 11: happening in New Zealand. And it's not just about what 455 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 11: you do when you're in government, it's. 456 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: About the way you do it. 457 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 11: And I felt we've lost their humanity and we were 458 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 11: there to serve people and kindness was a really simple 459 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 11: way to embody there. So no, we definitely didn't. We 460 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 11: didn't do a huddle, we didn't workshop it. 461 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 10: It was instinctive. 462 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 11: But I think it was what we needed at the time, 463 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 11: and I think it's what the world needs right now 464 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 11: as well. 465 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: I do too, a different kind of power. I need 466 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 2: that bucket now to La where the mostly peaceful protests continue. 467 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 2: And as you saw there, they continue. You to fly 468 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: the Mexican flag. They loot, burn and write and keep 469 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: waving that flag. And they're still burning the American flag. 470 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,719 Speaker 2: They're not only burning the American flag, but they are 471 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: spitting on it. Just vile, vile, anti American crims, destructive creams. 472 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: And if you want to know why the National Guard 473 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 2: was called in, well it may have something to do 474 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: with cops being attacked like this. 475 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 10: Oh my god, you got. 476 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that looks like attempted murder. But the mayor, Karen Bass, 477 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 2: is more concerned with ice. She wants immigration officials to 478 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 2: stop doing their job administration. 479 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 8: And if you can speak to MO when. 480 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 13: I would say stop the reids, stop the reeds, period, 481 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 13: I would say, give the power back to our governor, 482 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 13: and if we need the National Guard, we can do 483 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 13: it in the numerous circumstances, which is the request is 484 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 13: made local and the governor decides or not to grant 485 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 13: that to our city. 486 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 2: And it's not just the mayor. Democrats across the US 487 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 2: are disgracing themselves by standing with the lawless thugs rather 488 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: than the rule of law. His Democrat Congresswoman Promila Jayapa. 489 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 14: Donald Trump calling out the National Guard unconstitutionally, illegally without 490 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 14: the governor's authorize approval. As Heimi said, that's something that 491 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 14: has not happened since nineteen sixty five, and it's hard 492 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 14: to imagine that this time the National Guard were sent 493 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 14: out to attack protesters that were exercising their constitutional obligation. 494 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 2: Constitutional obligation. Yes, she said that these people are nuts 495 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 2: and they are determined to lose. This issue is a 496 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 2: loser for the Democrats every day of the weeken twice 497 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: on Sundays. But Congresswoman Jaya Powell wants to see more 498 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 2: of this craziness. It's apparently good for the country. 499 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 15: It is actually in the interest of all American people 500 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 15: to stand up for these rates. 501 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 10: They know they know that dividing us is what will. 502 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 4: Make them strong. 503 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 2: She's as mad as a cut snake, and so is 504 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 2: this dude, Senator Chris Murphy. 505 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 16: Obviously, this is a moment where we have to be 506 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 16: on the streets all over the country to protest what's 507 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 16: happening to our immigrant community, but more broadly, to protest 508 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 16: what's happening to our democracy. This is the most corrupt 509 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 16: administration in the history of the country, and we are 510 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 16: going to rise to this moment by being out there 511 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 16: on the streets. But you know, ultimately, I think the 512 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 16: country sees what Donald Trump is trying to do here. 513 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 16: He's looking for a fight. There's nothing in what he 514 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 16: is doing that is about peace or about restoring order. 515 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 2: Donald Trump started the fight. Was he the one who 516 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 2: told these thugs to attack police, burn cars, loot stores 517 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 2: right across LA And Trump's called in the National Guard 518 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 2: not to restore order, but to continue the fight. Genius 519 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 2: work there from the Democrat on MSNBC. Why don't you 520 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 2: try saying that to LAPD chief Jim McDonald, who fears 521 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 2: cops will lose their lives in this violence. 522 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 17: This violence that I've seen is disgusting. It's escalated now 523 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 17: since the beginning of this incident. What we saw the 524 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 17: first night was bad we've seen subsequent to that is 525 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 17: getting increasingly worse and more violent. Tonight, we had individuals 526 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 17: out there shooting commercial grade fireworks at our offsters that 527 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 17: can kill you. And we have adapted our tactics to 528 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 17: be able to have a chance, to be able to 529 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 17: take these people into custody and to be able to 530 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 17: hold them accountable. 531 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 2: Let's bring in Scott News contributor Kosher, Geeta Kosher. The 532 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 2: Democrats are playing with fire here. Excuse the pod, but 533 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 2: this is just dangerous territory for them. 534 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: It really is. 535 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 18: The shift in public support for getting illegal immigrants out, 536 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 18: and especially criminal illegal immigrants, which is where the administration's 537 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 18: focus is and where those initial people in LA were apprehended, 538 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 18: has been unlike anything I've seen in terms of just 539 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 18: even eight ten years ago, the public support was not there, 540 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 18: and how it is completely shifted by double digits in 541 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 18: the column of get these people out, because you don't 542 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 18: have a country if you just allow ramp into illegal immigration, 543 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,959 Speaker 18: criminal or otherwise. So it is losing the only thing 544 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 18: I can think of is Chris Murphy, Senator from Connecticut promilogae. 545 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: Apart from the state of Washington, these are very. 546 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 18: Blue sapphire blue states, and maybe they still believe that 547 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 18: their constituency over their response to these comments, like you know, 548 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 18: I'm here to defend democracy and role in this together, 549 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 18: and that's why they're doing that. But when you look 550 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 18: at just the global or the national picture, it doesn't 551 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 18: make sense. 552 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: And I think they're going to pay a price. 553 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 2: I think they are. And what you said is one 554 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: hundred percent accurate. The polls show that Donald Trump is 555 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 2: on a solid ground when it comes to his immigration 556 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: policy and the deportation plan as well. Let's check in 557 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: with CNN for the latest data. This must have. 558 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 12: Hurt, you know, if we just take a look at 559 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 12: the baseline numbers here. This is Trump's net approval rating 560 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 12: on immigration. It's gone up like a rocket compare now 561 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 12: versus eight years ago during Trump's first term. It is 562 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 12: his top issue so far. And the reason it is 563 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 12: his top issue is because take a look at the 564 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 12: individual nuggets in here. Why are people approving of Trump 565 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 12: on immigration, approve of these different immigrans actions well, Trump's 566 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,239 Speaker 12: administration's program to deport those here illegally. Look at this 567 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 12: fifty four percent approval. How about agents searching your hometown 568 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 12: for those that they think are here illegally again, positive 569 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 12: territory here above fifty percent for Donald Trump. So it's 570 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 12: not just on the broad issue of immigration where Trump 571 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 12: is doing well. It's on the specifics. When you dive 572 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,479 Speaker 12: into the issues, Trump is above fifty percent and his 573 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 12: actions are above fifty percent. 574 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 2: Now, what is really interesting is that this is an 575 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 2: issue that Democrats used to win on. No more, and 576 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: it seems that Dems are slow learners. 577 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 12: The Democrats don't have a clue on the issue of immigration. 578 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 12: I mean, you could just take it here closer to 579 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 12: trust more and immigration. Democrats versus Republicans. Got three different 580 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 12: polls for you across the board. They all tell the 581 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 12: same story. Republicans lead on the issue of immigration. You 582 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 12: see it here, CBS plus six, you see it here, 583 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 12: CNN plus six, you see it here, IPSOS even bigger 584 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 12: plus nineteen. No matter what poll you look at, no 585 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 12: matter what which way you cut it, the American public 586 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 12: is with the Republicans. The American public is with Donald Trump, 587 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 12: and to a much greater extent than they were in 588 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 12: term number one. And it's not just on the broad 589 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 12: issue of immigration. It's on the specifics as well, in 590 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 12: which the American public is with Donald Trump and the Republicans, 591 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 12: and that is why Donald Trump is eager to take 592 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 12: on this fight. 593 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 2: The data there is pretty clear. It's pretty devastating for 594 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: the Democrats and this despite the media coverage, and the 595 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 2: media coverage we're getting in this country is being quite 596 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 2: appalling and misleading. But that's the state of play. Could 597 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 2: these protests extend to other parts of the country. Could 598 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 2: we be looking at BLM two point zero? 599 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 18: You know, that's the question everybody's asking, And sadly, rightly 600 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 18: or wrongly, a lot of people wonder whether these are 601 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 18: one hundred percent organic where there are agitators in the mix, 602 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 18: given they're losing on the issue politically, and I'm sure 603 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 18: it's hurting the media. Although I think Harry Enton is 604 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 18: a secret Trump supporter, and those polling segments have become us. 605 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 2: He knows to create the numbers. The numbers are the numbers. 606 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: And he's very honest. 607 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 18: He's always a little bit too excited when he reports them, 608 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 18: and that is showing you that it just doesn't make 609 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 18: sense if everybody is approving even of the tactics that 610 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 18: go into my communities go into the home. Deepert go 611 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 18: into the schools, find them and get them out. 612 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: Those were the numbers you're showing. 613 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 18: It doesn't jive why there are so many protests unless 614 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 18: it just is a function of the number of illegal 615 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 18: immigrants in the country, and there are many of them, 616 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 18: and if they band together and start to create mayhem, 617 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 18: then maybe that was inevitable. 618 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 2: Well, California's response, other than ignoring the violence and generally 619 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 2: not even protecting law enforcement from these lawless thugs, they 620 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 2: now want to and I think they have started suing 621 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 2: the Trump administration. Has that going to work out? I mean, 622 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 2: the judges in that state, we know how they lead. 623 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 2: But really, is this going to end in anything other 624 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 2: than just a waste of everybody's time. 625 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 18: Definitely a waste of time. That is their favorite tactic, 626 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 18: using the judicial system to their advantage. If they do 627 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 18: get something favorable on their side of the column, it's 628 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 18: going to go up to the Supreme Court. That's a 629 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 18: little bit tenuous and it's not a healthy system. If 630 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 18: fundamental questions, is the commander in chief, the head of 631 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 18: the executive branch, allowed to expel non citizens who are 632 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 18: in the country legally, and if that is even going 633 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 18: to be tested yeah, and hanging in the balance of 634 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 18: four or five people in rules just to find that 635 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 18: we have problems. But I do think ultimately the Supreme 636 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 18: Court will rule favorably for this. This is within his 637 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 18: purview as the chief executive of the country and hopefully 638 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 18: you'll have success with it. 639 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 2: Well, we can't have this situation continue. You keep hearing 640 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 2: talk about a constitutional crisis. This is the constitutional crisis. 641 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 2: The court's being used to usurpt the power of the 642 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 2: commander in cheap and the will of the people. We 643 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 2: had an election, it was a landslide result. The president 644 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 2: has a man date and he's not being allowed to 645 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 2: deliver on that man date. And the Democrats have got 646 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 2: to be careful with these tactics because it can come 647 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 2: back to them the other way as well. 648 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,919 Speaker 18: Definitely, and this side is learning how to play by 649 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 18: those rules. I think for so long they didn't. And 650 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 18: so the Left is very effective at these strategies. But 651 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 18: Trump and his successors, whether is JD. Vans or whoever, 652 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 18: are going to use that same playbook on them. 653 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Now, Donald Trump had a bit of fun today. 654 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 2: He had a diagnosis and some advice for Greta Thunberg, 655 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 2: who is accusing Israel of kidnapping her. 656 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 7: She's a strange person. She's a young, angry person. I 657 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 7: don't know if it's real anger. It's hard to believe, actually, 658 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 7: but I saw what happened. She's certainly different anger management. 659 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 7: I think she has to go to an anger management class. 660 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 7: That's my primary recommendation for her. 661 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: As she says, well she can, I can. 662 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 7: I find it. I think Israel has enough problems without 663 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 7: kidnapping Greta Thunberg. And secondly, are you guys to know 664 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 7: what she said she was kidnapped by Israel? 665 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, she needs anger management classes kosher and he 666 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 2: questions whether that anger is genuine. But if it is genuine, 667 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,439 Speaker 2: he wants her to get some help. 668 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 18: That was Trump and it's comedic timing and it's finance. 669 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 18: I feel like we're back in the Apprentice, But in 670 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 18: real life she is not a sympathetic figure. I think 671 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 18: she's suffering from relevance deprivation syndrome, where her climate mandate 672 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,399 Speaker 18: has fizzled and she's trying to inject herself into whatever 673 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 18: the issues of the day are. Sailing into Gaza, being 674 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 18: intercepted and then claiming she was kidnapped by Israel, and 675 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 18: I think she's petitioning her country, the Swedish government to intervene, 676 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:35,919 Speaker 18: even though I think they're sending her back. 677 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 2: But they're sending it back. They're not even faulting hers. 678 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 2: I don't know what this intervention is going totally. 679 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 18: She sounds like somebody desperate for attention and fame, and 680 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 18: mebe anger management. 681 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 2: As the President said, now, let's talk a little about Columbia. 682 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 2: The leading Conservative candidate for president, thirty nine year old 683 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 2: Senator Migail Urubay Turba, was shot three times, including twice 684 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 2: in the head, while he was addressed supporters at the weekend. 685 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 2: Here's how it unfolded and a warning viewers might find 686 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 2: this distressing. In the aftermath, the presidential hopeful was surrounded 687 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 2: by supporters who put themselves in considerable danger to try 688 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 2: to help him. Let's have a look Tourbe has survived 689 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 2: emergency surgery and is an intensive care has been non 690 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 2: responsive thus far. His wife, Maria Claudia Tarrizona, has asked 691 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 2: the nation to pray for his survival, saying, Miguel is 692 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 2: currently fighting for his life. Let us ask God to 693 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 2: guide the hands of the doctors who are treating him. 694 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 2: A security guard has detained the alleged attacker, who is 695 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 2: believed to be just fifteen years old. He's in police custody. Kosher. 696 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,280 Speaker 2: We've seen this sort of violence too often in South America. 697 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 2: I can argue it's happened in North America in recent 698 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 2: times as well. 699 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 18: Indeed, now Latin America is a very dangerous place. I 700 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 18: think it's eight percent of the world's population and one 701 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 18: third of the homicides happened there. So that's just the 702 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 18: baseline situation. But then you layer on top of that 703 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 18: the political angle to this, and there's been quite a 704 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 18: few I was looking it up. 705 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: A presidential candidate for Ecuador was shot and killed. 706 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 18: Recently, a mayoral candidate from Mexico was shot as well. 707 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: A few years ago. 708 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 18: Bolscenario, the former president of Brazil, was stabbed survived. 709 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: It was stabbed in twenty eighteen. 710 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 18: So this seems to be another part of the playbook 711 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,479 Speaker 18: with just as a political climate gets worse and worse 712 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 18: and the stakes get higher, you do see that, whether 713 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,720 Speaker 18: it's the riots in La or these kinds of assassinations, 714 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 18: and I think we'll see more of them. 715 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, unfortunately, and the that so many of these victims 716 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 2: tend to be on the conservative side of politics. Has 717 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 2: not escaped attention either. Koshergator, thank you so much for 718 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 2: your time. Time still to come. Alex Stein will be 719 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,399 Speaker 2: here to celebrate Pride months. You don't want to miss that. 720 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 2: Welcome back. Joining me now is comedian and host of 721 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 2: Primetime with Alex Stein on Blaze TV. Alex We've often 722 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 2: remarked about Donald Trump being the funniest president. We saw 723 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 2: some of his work earlier with his diagnosis of Greta Thunberg. 724 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 2: His comedic timing is impeccable and it appears to have 725 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 2: rubbed off on the VP. Here is jd Vance with 726 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 2: comedian Theo Vaughn talking about the Big Beautiful Bill and 727 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 2: the Bengals. 728 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,919 Speaker 12: You think Trey Hendrickson will get signed. 729 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,280 Speaker 15: That's the million dollar question or I guess the fifty 730 00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 15: million dollar question. 731 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 12: Are you going to stub. 732 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 15: That was actually an unknown? That's a big part of 733 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 15: the Big Beautiful Bill is thirty million dollars to the 734 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 15: Bengals to help with salary cap space. I mean, look, 735 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 15: so Hendrickson in his market, dude, Dude, he's a generational talent. 736 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 2: Alex is a rare politician. Vance just on the ho von. 737 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,919 Speaker 2: He revealed in that interview with the VP that he's 738 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 2: got Tim Walls coming on the program tamp On. Tim 739 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 2: is going to be on his show. How do you 740 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 2: think that's going to go? 741 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 19: Well, tam On tam the football coach and knows nothing 742 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 19: about football. 743 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 4: That is going to be very entertaining. 744 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 19: But I just want to say something, Rita to your 745 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 19: audience and Sky News. You know, I have been accused 746 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 19: of being anti LGBTQ in the past, and I want 747 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 19: to say that that is absolutely impossible because I'm a 748 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 19: Dallas Cowboys fan, and being a Dallas Cowboys fan in 749 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,760 Speaker 19: America means that you cannot have any more gay pride 750 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 19: than that. So you know, I wouldn't be surprised if 751 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 19: they didn't try to give the Bengals thirty million dollars 752 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 19: to help with the salary cap. 753 00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 4: I mean, they need it. They have a bunch of 754 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 4: good players. 755 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 19: There is that tether and I could be afore be 756 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 19: able to afford very much longer. 757 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 4: So I wouldn't be surprised if JD. 758 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 19: Vance put his finger on the scale to try to 759 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 19: help out his home team. 760 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 2: Well, it happens that JD. Vance was being interviewed there 761 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 2: with THEO Vaughn as Elon Musk and Donald Trump were 762 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 2: having their massive feud on X. Of course he was 763 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 2: asked about it. It was happening as he was on 764 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 2: his way to the interview, And this is his explanation 765 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 2: at that early stage about why Elon had him melt down. 766 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 15: Elon's new to politics, right, so his businesses are being 767 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 15: attacked NonStop. They're literally like firebombing some of his cars. 768 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 15: And by the way, we're looking into a lot of 769 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,359 Speaker 15: the stuff. I mean, some of that stuff we're looking 770 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 15: into as an active terrorism at the Department of Justice, 771 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 15: because I think it is an act of terrorism. So 772 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 15: I think part of it is this guy got into 773 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 15: politics and has suffered a lot for it. But I mean, 774 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 15: and I get the frustration there, and I get the 775 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 15: frustration that. I mean, look, Congress got the spinning bil, 776 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 15: But the main purpose of the bill is not actually 777 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 15: spending or cutting spending, though it does cut a lot 778 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 15: of spending. The main purpose of the bill is to 779 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 15: prevent the biggest tax increase. But I understand, like it's 780 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 15: a good bill, it's not a perfect bill. Like the 781 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 15: process in DC if you're a business leader, you probably 782 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,359 Speaker 15: get frustrated with that process because it's more you know, bureaucratic, 783 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 15: it's more slow moving. So I think there's just some 784 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,320 Speaker 15: frustrations there. But I really, man, I think it's a 785 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 15: huge mistake for him to go after the president like that, 786 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 15: And I think that if he and the President are 787 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 15: in some blood feud, most importantly, it's going to be 788 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 15: bad for the country. But I think it's going to 789 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 15: be I don't think it's going to be good for 790 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 15: Elon either. 791 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 2: Alex what's been the fallout. Will Elon ever be trusted 792 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 2: again after that meltdown? 793 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 4: I do not think that Elon will be trusted again. 794 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 19: I mean, you're hearing stories too of Elon of Shelton 795 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 19: cabinet members that had secret service, you know, detail with 796 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 19: him at the time, and he's not getting in trouble, 797 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 19: and you know, there's been allegations that he was supposedly 798 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 19: potentially on some sort of therapeutic kenemine at the time 799 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 19: of these tweets. Listen, if you really look at Elon Musk, 800 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,800 Speaker 19: I like Elon Musk, but and honestly, I'm actually I 801 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 19: agree with him that. 802 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 4: There's probably a little too much bloating this bill. 803 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,359 Speaker 19: But at the same time, Elon Musk called out Donald Trump, 804 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 19: and I think that it needs to publicly apologize and 805 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,479 Speaker 19: try to harp back on the Trump train because him 806 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 19: beefing with Donald Trump is a proposition that I think 807 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 19: will only be a hindrance to his success in the 808 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 19: future for Elon to continue to favor Donald Trump. 809 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 2: Oh look, I think Elon very quickly realized his considerable 810 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 2: mistake there. He's gone back and deleted some of those 811 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 2: crazy tweets and he was tweeting in a far more 812 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 2: conciliatory tone. But you know what, if you're going to 813 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 2: have a meltdown behind closed doors, do not put it 814 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 2: on X. That is not very clever at all. Now 815 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 2: you've been up to mischief again, Alex. I know how 816 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 2: much you enjoy Pride Month. He talked about that earlier. 817 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 2: Here you are spreading the joy at a city council meeting. 818 00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,760 Speaker 20: I just want to say that this is my favorite 819 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,720 Speaker 20: month of the year. So I wrote a little song 820 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 20: about this month and why it's so special to me. 821 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 20: So if you guys want to sing along, you guys 822 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 20: are welcome to sing along. 823 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:30,879 Speaker 2: In that is That's enough. That's enough, Alex, I don't 824 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 2: know what to say. Is the tune going to be 825 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 2: out on iTunes? What were you thinking there? Some of 826 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 2: those lyrics we kin'd even played at this time of night. 827 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 4: No, we can't. 828 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 19: But Rita, there is no lies detected whatsoever. This whole 829 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,760 Speaker 19: entire month, every corporation decides to put their pride flag 830 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 19: right in our face and listen, I'm not anti gay. 831 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 19: I love my gay brothers and sisters, but I'm kind 832 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 19: of sticking of these companies virtue signaling for one month 833 00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 19: of the year. It's like, give me a break. You know, 834 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 19: we should have a support for everybody year round. And 835 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,360 Speaker 19: you know I had to go up there and do 836 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 19: a little primetime Alex Stein and I will say this 837 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 19: that ruta you called it. We're having a better version, 838 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:16,320 Speaker 19: a much higher quality version of this song. 839 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 4: Coming out this week. 840 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 19: It should be a out I think within twenty four 841 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 19: hours of this interview tonight. 842 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,800 Speaker 2: Oh wonderful. Maybe you could put it with a bonus track, 843 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 2: the one you wrote about AOC What was that one 844 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 2: called Big Booty Latina's I think again another bang out 845 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 2: from you now before you go. Those crazy La riots 846 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,320 Speaker 2: have spread to Texas, the great state of Texas. Well, 847 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 2: they're not rights there yet, They're just a protest if 848 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,439 Speaker 2: you doesn't confuse Souls have showed up in Austin, which 849 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 2: is barely Texas anyway these days, but they refuse to 850 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:55,839 Speaker 2: explain their position. When Owen Schreyer showed up, I would just. 851 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 12: Think, if you're out here for a cause, you'd be 852 00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 12: able to talk about it, and none of you can. 853 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 2: Bunches, if you can't, le don't you just wait? All right? 854 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 16: Think what we're all here for. I've been just shut 855 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 16: up like everybody else, and all right, you're edituting everyone. 856 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 4: I'm asking as do you believe it alone? 857 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 2: Yes? 858 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 7: I do. But the time in a place. 859 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 4: States America at the time. 860 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 2: I won rate the room, Alex, what do you think 861 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,320 Speaker 2: about these protests or that they're going to take hold 862 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 2: in Texas? 863 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 3: Well? 864 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 4: I think Texas is not going to be as bad 865 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:27,879 Speaker 4: as La. 866 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,760 Speaker 19: And great job of Owen Schroyer going into the Lions 867 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 19: then and talking to the protesters. 868 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 4: But this is the problem though real quickly. It is 869 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 4: that these protesters, the. 870 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 19: American ones, now we have our own military potentially fighting 871 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 19: against American citizens. 872 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,280 Speaker 4: That's bad, and the other thing is the illegal immigrants. 873 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 19: They don't even want to be legal immigrants because they 874 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 19: want to be able to make money, send it back home, 875 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 19: and not pay taxes. 876 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 4: So these people that are fighting against Americans don't even 877 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 4: want to actually be American. That's a big problem. 878 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 2: Well, they're fighting the flag of another country, so that's 879 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 2: a pretty good sign of where they want to be. 880 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 2: Alex Stein, thank you for your time, and that's it 881 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 2: from May. Up next is Newsnight, good Night,