1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:04,439 Speaker 1: On scorn lils Ostrodia. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: This is the Reader Panalty Show. 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 3: Good evening, ann Welcome to the Rita Panini Show. 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 4: Coming up tonight, a group of masked news filmed terrorizing 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 4: multiple businesses in Melbourne. Nikata will cover that and the 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 4: day's other top headlines. The Great Douglas Murray joins the 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 4: program and I'll get his reaction to the sentencing of 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 4: two Afghan nationals in the UK for the rape of 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 4: a fifteen year old girl. 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 3: M Horowitz will have the latest from. 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,959 Speaker 4: The US, including Erica Kirk condemning conspiracy theories about her 12 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 4: husband's murder, and Kinziscofield will explain why Megan Markle is 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 4: making a show of contacting her stranged father. Left is 14 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 4: Losing It features a pronoun induced meltdown. 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: Hey TikTok, can you guys help me? Spam call the 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 2: mon County Improviation Office in Monengelia County, West Virginia for 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: being transfer but first. 18 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 4: Victoria's property industry has delivered its final report card for 19 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five to the Allen government, and it's bad news. 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 4: The property sector has given the state its worst rating, 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 4: with data showing housing confidence remains at extremely low levels. 22 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 4: Victoria has again recorded Australia's lowest industry sentiment, with confidence 23 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 4: in the state government's planning and growth management also the 24 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 4: lowest in the country. Joining me now for more on 25 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: this is Menzies the Research Center senior fellow Nick Cata. Nick, 26 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 4: we've got over sixty five percent of Victorian respondents saying 27 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 4: that the States tax regime was the number one issue 28 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 4: halting further development. 29 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, guess what tax does that doesn't it? Tax stops things. 30 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 5: It stops people investing, it stops people buying. Putting a 31 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 5: syntax on housing is not a good idea. You know, 32 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 5: you you really need to encourage housing. Of course, you've 33 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 5: got all sorts of taxes down there. It's bad enough 34 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 5: in New South Wales, by the way, if you want 35 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 5: to build a property, you're paying an enormous amount on 36 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 5: tax and regulation to build a place and that is 37 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 5: deterring development much worse in Victoria. And this is at 38 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 5: the very time when we desperately need housing. What is 39 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 5: it They don't get about the fact that the real 40 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 5: problem why young people are struggling to buy houses, why 41 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 5: people are paying a fortune in rent, it's because there 42 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 5: is a shortage of housing. The government should be doing 43 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 5: everything they can. I mean, look, they give subsidies to windmills, right, 44 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 5: so what about at the very least reducing the taxation 45 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 5: on housing and particularly developers, so that they can build 46 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 5: the enormous demand there is for housing. 47 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 4: Now Staying in Melbourne, a group of masked youths have 48 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 4: been filmed terrorizing multiple businesses in Bentley Eases As, a 49 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 4: quite suburb around thirteen fourteen kilometers southeast of the city. 50 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 4: The incident unfolded around eight thirty am on Chesterville Road. 51 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 4: A current affair reporter Marty Keing captured the footage while 52 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 4: running errands. 53 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: Have a look. 54 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 6: And this mob, many wearing masks, are running riot. Mike 55 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 6: claims these young people stole alcohol from his shop. He 56 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 6: also claims it's not the first time he makes the 57 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 6: citizens arrest. Until police arrived, he's punched, slapped and punched again. 58 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 4: Officers have arrested several teens at the scene. Two male 59 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 4: staff members were treated for minor injuries. Victoria Police also 60 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 4: confirmed they were already investigating similar behavior by the same 61 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 4: group at a nearby amphole service station. 62 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: Where an incident unfolded. 63 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 4: Seems like the Jacinta Haalan governments suppose a tough on 64 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 4: youth crime approach isn't having much of an impact at 65 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: the coal face. 66 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 5: No, I think under these new laws they'll be able 67 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 5: to impose life sentences on sixteen year olds. Look good 68 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 5: luck with that. You know, there's the whole, the whole, 69 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 5: the whole system is rotten from the government and it's imposed, 70 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 5: you know, imposing these lax bail laws, which is now 71 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 5: trying to tighten up, going soft on youth crime. Then 72 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 5: you've got the police who fill their hands are tied 73 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 5: so often because they're not getting the back up. You've 74 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 5: got shopkeepers there who don't dare sort of do anything 75 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 5: firm to stop these people because they might be the 76 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 5: ones in trouble. And then of course you've got the courts. 77 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 5: It really is a diabolical mess. Resa. I'm sorry to 78 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 5: criticize your state on crime yet again. 79 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 7: But what is it? What is it? 80 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 5: Is there a correlation here? What does Portland, Oregon, Minneapolis, 81 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 5: San Francisco and soon New York got in common with Melbourne. Well, 82 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 5: if you have a woke government, you get crime now. 83 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 4: Nick Tania plipper Sex decision to block the billion dollar 84 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 4: Blaney gold mine is under renewed scrutiny. Mining Giant Regious 85 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 4: Resources told the Federal Court Judicial Review that acceptance of 86 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 4: a blue Banded B dreaming story as a central piece 87 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 4: of evidence for blocking the mind without independent scrutiny lacked 88 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 4: any rational basis. Now Nick Regis is seeking to have 89 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 4: this decision repealed, And last week we had Judge James 90 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 4: Stelios grant a non publication order to protect cultural sensitivities 91 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 4: and uphold Indigenous traditional law. Now that doesn't sound great 92 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 4: for transparency, does it. 93 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 7: No. 94 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 5: I mean there's two very disturbing things about this. First 95 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 5: is Tanya pliver sx action in banning it on the 96 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 5: basis of this claim about what is it the blue 97 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 5: banded B. Look, you know, please please, I mean, this 98 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 5: is nonsense. We've been through us. We went through all 99 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 5: this thirty years ago in South Australia with this so 100 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 5: called secret women's business that a young Chris Kenny wrote 101 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 5: a very good book exposing. I thought we dealt with 102 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 5: this sort of nonsense. But because the other thing you 103 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 5: point to there is the issue of justice. You cannot 104 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 5: have justice being done in secret and then justice being 105 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 5: seemed to be fair. The two don't go hand in 106 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 5: hand and the fact that this decision was made to 107 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 5: keep it secret because aboriginal law or something says, you know, 108 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 5: something general will happen if it comes out in public. Look, 109 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 5: that's not good enough. That's not good enough. We have 110 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 5: a legal system that functions. People have confidence in the 111 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,799 Speaker 5: legal system only in so far as they can see 112 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 5: justice being done. And if there's a being cast over it, 113 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 5: so you can't see why this decision is being made. 114 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 5: You can't see the basis of the evidence. This is 115 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 5: really really bad for people's consequence confidence in our justice system. 116 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 4: You need to have that transparency. You need to have 117 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 4: consistency as well. You can't have selective application of the 118 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 4: law in certain circumstances, often or sometimes based on race issues. 119 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 4: Nick Kta, thank you so much for your time tonight. 120 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 4: Joining me now is the author of international best sellers, 121 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 4: including his latest work on Democracies and death. 122 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: Cult Douglas Murray. 123 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 4: Let's start in the US, and we have a war 124 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 4: of words between Donald Trump and elin Omer and that's 125 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 4: intensified further with President Trump suggesting she is in the 126 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 4: country illegally and she may have even married her own brother. 127 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 8: Yes, this story has been around for a while. Quite 128 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 8: a lot of journalists have investigated this story in the 129 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 8: past and have come to that conclusion rather staggering though 130 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 8: it might seem to many of us. The allegation is 131 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 8: that yes, Congresswoman Ilanomar married her own brother in order 132 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 8: to get him citizenship in the United States. She has 133 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 8: always skirted around answering the questions about this, and now 134 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 8: President Trump has raised it. I suspect she's not going 135 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 8: to be able to skird around that for much longer. 136 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 8: There's a lot she has to answer about this, and 137 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 8: so far she's been able to stonewall it by just 138 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 8: sort of neglecting to answer the investative journalists or giving 139 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 8: them information that seems not to be accurate. I don't 140 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 8: know if she's going to be able to keep getting 141 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 8: away with this now the spotlight is so bright on 142 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 8: her and her family relations Douglas. 143 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 4: There's also talk about her eli Omar accumulated such wealth 144 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 4: in a short period of time. She's accumulated millions in 145 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 4: wealth when she went into the job to be a 146 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 4: politician with nothing, but she's hardly alone there. That seems 147 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 4: to be a problem in the US. Let's go to 148 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 4: the UK now where too Afghan national seeking asylum have 149 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 4: each been sentenced for the rape of a fifteen year 150 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 4: old girl. Footage of the assault is so harrowing that 151 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 4: it was feared it could trigger a riot. 152 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: The crime was committed just months after these. 153 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 4: Two individuals came to the UK as unaccompanied child asylum seekers. 154 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 4: One defense lawyer argued that cultural differences played a part. 155 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 4: He said that the defendant is not used to a 156 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 4: society where women are free and deemed equal to men. 157 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 3: He is morally at sea. 158 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 4: There are massive cultural barriers that have become massive moral barriers, 159 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 4: and that again seems to be at the heart of 160 00:09:55,080 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 4: this debate. Douglas, should the UK have migration, have these 161 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 4: asylum programs with cultures that are not really compatible with 162 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 4: Western values? 163 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 8: Well, I like the way in which the defendant's lawyer 164 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 8: phrased that it almost sounds like there's sort of equal 165 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 8: moral culpability in that he happened to come from a 166 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 8: different society and we don't have the same norms as 167 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 8: that society. So it's a kind of six of one, 168 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 8: half a dozen of the other. Problem. The British public 169 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 8: didn't ask for people like this to be in their country. 170 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 8: We didn't ask to have sometimes more than a thousand 171 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 8: people coming illegally by boat each day. We didn't ask 172 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 8: for that, and we didn't ask for the importing of 173 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 8: people from cultures where women are regarded as chattel and 174 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 8: for this to be the defense, you know. I mean, 175 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 8: I have seen this before, and have seen cases like 176 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 8: this before. There was a case I wrote about in 177 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 8: my book The Strange Death of Europe almost ten years 178 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 8: years ago, where a man from Eritrea gave an interview 179 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 8: in which he said, well, where I'm from, you can 180 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 8: just grab a woman off the street and a raper. 181 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 8: And I think the British public, like a lot of 182 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 8: our publics, are getting kind of sick of this sort 183 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 8: of allegation that it were there's our culture is somehow 184 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 8: sort of a blame for this. 185 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 7: Well, I'm sorry. 186 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 8: If this isn't a line in the sand, if this 187 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 8: isn't a norm we can keep established, then actually, if 188 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 8: you are going to come to Britain or any other 189 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 8: Western country legally or illegally, and preferably nobody doing it illegally, 190 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 8: then they should at least realize that the norms of 191 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 8: their society do not apply in our countries and that 192 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 8: our countries do not regard women in this seventh century light, 193 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 8: and it's really appalling. And you mentioned Rita that a 194 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 8: crucial fact thereout the footage, there is a strange thing 195 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 8: which we've talked about before, that that is going on 196 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 8: in every Western country when it comes to this, which 197 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 8: is that the authorities are worried about the public finding 198 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 8: out about what's happening in their own country, and so 199 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 8: the authorities, including the police, effectively behave as a mediating body. 200 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 8: You know, we can't release this footage, or we can't 201 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 8: release it in full, otherwise people will become angry. Well, 202 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 8: you know, first of all, we have the right to 203 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 8: know what's happening in our countries. We have the right 204 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 8: to know if people are assaulting women on our streets 205 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 8: or dragging them off and raping them like that. And 206 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 8: we'll come to our own conclusions about that. You know, 207 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 8: we're adults, and we have the right to respond to that, 208 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 8: including with absolute disgust and opprobrium. But this endless idea, 209 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 8: I think the authorities think something like they sort of 210 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 8: keep a lid on it. If the problem is going on, 211 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 8: you put a lid on it. And you try to 212 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 8: make sure that the public knows little about the problem 213 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 8: as possible, otherwise the public will be unpredictable. I think 214 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 8: this is way past time as a tactic from the authorities, 215 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 8: Way past time. The public want to know what's happening. 216 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 8: And you know, you just think back to the extraordinary 217 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 8: wordplay we've had in the last twenty five years in Britain. 218 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 8: Remember that it's taken all these decades to talk about 219 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 8: the Pakistani mainly grooming gangs in the North of England. 220 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 8: But just consider years. Not only was that information covered 221 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 8: over much like in these recent cases, but we get 222 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 8: these euphemisms grooming, grooming, which is a nasty term. It's 223 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 8: definitely a termin it's not nice if somebody's being groomed. 224 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 8: But that term is completely inadequate for industrial scale raping 225 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 8: of young women in your society, the torturing of young 226 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 8: women in some of these cases, the physical sexual not 227 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 8: to mention psychological torturing of these young women. And again, 228 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 8: in every way, whether it's literally trying to suppress footage 229 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 8: or trying to minimize the acts by playing around with 230 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 8: the English language, all of this is way past time. 231 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 8: The public deserve to know what's happening in their country, 232 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 8: and they do not deserve to have authorities acting as 233 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 8: some kind of mediating body between the public and the facts. 234 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 4: Douglas, You're right that preoccupation with social cohesion is a 235 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 4: problem right here in this country. I think authorities think 236 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 4: it's preferable to keep people in the dark as long 237 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 4: as social cohesion is not threatened. 238 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 8: These are cases so severe and appalling that in any 239 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 8: normal season there would be a hunt for the people 240 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 8: who held secondary responsibility for the crime. That is, the 241 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 8: people who allowed these people into the country. If you 242 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 8: have a rapist coming into your country, there should be 243 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 8: heads rolling metaphorically in departments in Whitehall. There should be 244 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 8: immigration officers, Border Force officers and others, government ministers, people 245 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 8: in the Home Office and elsewhere held responsible for this. 246 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 8: We have inquiries into everything in the UK. When the 247 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 8: Home Office a few years ago, when Teresa May was 248 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 8: in power, there was this huge scandal because some people 249 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 8: who had come on the famous wind rush generation ago 250 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 8: had an accident in their immigration status that suggested that 251 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 8: some of the many decades after having got into the 252 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 8: UK should should actually leave and didn't have permanent means 253 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 8: to remain. Now that was a huge scandal and the 254 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 8: Labor Party wanted to bring down the Conservative government over it. 255 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 8: The Labor activists and someone still go on about it. 256 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 8: Why on Earth when people are coming into the country 257 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 8: and committing violent rapes and violent crimes, is no one 258 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 8: ever held responsible? No border official, no local council official, 259 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 8: no immigration official, no Home Office official, no Home Office minister. 260 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 8: In what other situation if this happened once in a 261 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 8: normal political season, a minister would have to resign because 262 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 8: they've let a rapist into the country. But we're in 263 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 8: this situation where nobody ever has to take any responsibility 264 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 8: and the public need to just keep suffering through the 265 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 8: results of inept border policies, inept immigration policies, and a 266 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 8: completely lacks a system of legal and illegal immigration. I 267 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 8: think it's absolutely astonishing and I'm amazed that the British 268 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 8: public are not calling and the British media aren't calling 269 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 8: more for us to actually identify the people in government 270 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 8: who are responsible for these lapses, because they're not one offs. 271 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 8: They are constant, and there should be constant pressure to 272 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 8: find out who the people are who have been allowing 273 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 8: this to happen and to make sure that they do 274 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 8: not go off into some happy, pensioned retirement. 275 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 4: Now let's talk about something a little bit more frivolous. 276 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 4: We've had a few days now to digest the latest 277 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 4: episode of Prince Harry embarrassing his family, possible embarrassing the 278 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 4: entire country with his thirsty attention seeking. This time was 279 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 4: an ill advised appearance on Stephen Colbert's program where he 280 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 4: tried to be a comedian. I don't know exactly know 281 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 4: what was going on. We had an incident. Have a 282 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 4: look at this sketch. Try to understand this. 283 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 9: So if you was treated like a king for the day, 284 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 9: what would you want me. 285 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 7: To do for you? Beck? 286 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 2: For me? 287 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 7: Probably you'd want me to do what beg? 288 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 2: Beg Beck, beg the okay? 289 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 7: Beck? 290 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 3: Bake, oh, Baker. 291 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 4: Douglas. 292 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 3: I don't know what to say. 293 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 4: Do you feel any secondhand embarrassment as a brit Just 294 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 4: what is Prince Harry playing out? 295 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 3: Why would he go on Colbert and do whatever that was? 296 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 8: First of all, yes, I feel a deep cringing embarrassment. 297 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 8: I wanted to cover my eyes as you were showing 298 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 8: me that reta. I never want to see it again. Ah, 299 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 8: there's more of it now on the screen. The whole 300 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 8: thing is excruciating, of course, But you know, normally in 301 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 8: a situation like this, when somebody tries their hand, for instance, 302 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 8: a comedy, the normal thing to say is, you know, 303 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 8: don't give up the day job. Except you can't really 304 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 8: say that in this case. It's not clear what Harry's 305 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 8: date job is. It sort of don't give up not 306 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 8: doing anything in the day. It's just excruciating. He is 307 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 8: seems to me to be intent on destroying the mystique 308 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 8: and some of the power really of the monarchy as 309 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 8: an institution. The monarchy as an institution is incredibly important 310 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 8: in a constitutional democracy, and Prince Harry has been trying 311 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 8: to sort of spend down the endowment of public sympathy 312 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 8: and even I think interest in him, and this is 313 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 8: just the latest example of him going about this. I 314 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 8: always have the same thing, Rita when I see this, 315 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 8: which is I think, what a terrible way to spend 316 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 8: your life. You know, he's clearly looking for a purpose. 317 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 8: It's a bit odd to try to find it on 318 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 8: the Stephen Colbert Show, but put that aside for a moment. 319 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 8: He's clearly trying to find some kind of purpose. But 320 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 8: just imagine if he had done what duty actually demanded 321 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 8: of him, he would be in the UK at the 322 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 8: moment with his wife, and they'd be performing royal duties. 323 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 8: They'd be raising funds for deserving charities. They'd be opening 324 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 8: sports facilities and school halls and things to you know, 325 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 8: sort of enamored crowds of people who just wished them 326 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 8: well and they could actually be doing good with their lives, 327 00:20:56,040 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 8: and instead there's just this sort of peripatetic wandering around 328 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 8: TV studios and elsewhere, and it's just such a it's 329 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 8: such a bad way for him to spend his life, 330 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 8: and to spend down, if you remember back, you know, 331 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 8: thirty years or so, to spend down the considerable public 332 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 8: sympathy and indeed even admiration and love that existed for him. 333 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 8: It's such a curious career. I hope at some point 334 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 8: that he realizes what a mess he's made of all this, 335 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 8: how incredibly actually unrewarding it is in every sense other 336 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 8: than the financial sense, to spend your time doing this, 337 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 8: that nobody wants it, nobody likes it, and that the 338 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 8: other life he could have had, the one that he 339 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 8: was actually born to have is the life he should 340 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 8: be leading, and it would be one in which he 341 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 8: could find meaning and purpose. He could be raising funds 342 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 8: for charities to do with the armed forces in which 343 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 8: he served. He could be addressing questions of you know, 344 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 8: how better we look after soldiers after they returned from conflict, 345 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 8: for instance. There's all sorts of really useful things he 346 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 8: could be doing, but just think about it. 347 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 10: There. 348 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 8: Instead he is making some lame jokes, trying to be 349 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 8: a lame comedian in a manner which, as I say, 350 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 8: I just want to cover my eyes and ears when 351 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 8: I see that footage. 352 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 3: Oh same here, samey. 353 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 4: I'm not a brit And even I was cringing internally 354 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 4: and externally. I think if hit the nail on the head, 355 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 4: he's lacking purpose and I think it shows he seems lost, 356 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 4: he seems unhappy, and it is such a full from grace. 357 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 4: He was the most popular royal after the Queen for 358 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 4: the longest time before Meghan came along. Douglas Murray, thank 359 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 4: you so much for your time tonight. 360 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 8: Great pleasure as always, thank you. 361 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 4: Coming up Lefties Losing It and Erica Kirk addresses conspiracy 362 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 4: theories about her husband Charlie's murderm Horowitz is up next. 363 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 3: Welcome back. It's time for lefties losing it. 364 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 4: You know, I suspect the White House, or at least 365 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 4: it's social media team. 366 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 3: Maybe watching the Rita Paney Show, we did. 367 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 4: A little segment featuring Christmas decorations under the Biden White 368 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 4: House compared to Milania's work this year. And what do 369 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 4: you know, the White House has just released this very 370 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 4: droll before and after video Christmas. 371 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that ain't gonna work. 372 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 9: I mean, when should I really eve a start. 373 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 4: It's becoming increasingly difficult to separate reality from parody when 374 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 4: it comes to left is losing it. If you told 375 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 4: me there was a production about a transgender woman with 376 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 4: a passion for coal mining who has to fight the 377 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 4: patriarchy and entrenched gender norms to succeed, I would have thought, well, 378 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 4: you were talking about some sort of Saturday Night Live skit. 379 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 4: But it's real and it's on Netflix. This is the 380 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 4: Queen of Coal. Really, it's always spent my dream. 381 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 3: To work in the mind Marie's burns on the ground. 382 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 8: It's do you. 383 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 10: Feel safe in that work environment? 384 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 3: I need a job, not friends to them, I'm just 385 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 3: another guy. 386 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 11: You're not a guy and you're. 387 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 5: Not like that. 388 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: If you say you're a woman now, then you'll have 389 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: to do women's work. And you know this company assigns 390 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: different jobs to win them. 391 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 3: It's not there what they're doing to you. 392 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: No one can take away what you've earned. Crimey you 393 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: earned it, it's yours. 394 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 3: I'm a minor, Violet, a minor. 395 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 4: Look, I'm just thrilled that we have Netflix celebrating fossil fuels, 396 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 4: the mining industry that keeps the lights on Bravo, though 397 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 4: I do suspect there'll be some global warming narratives pushed 398 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 4: in that production time to check in on the awful 399 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 4: phenomenon that's affluent white female lefties or at the forefront 400 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,479 Speaker 4: of just about every terrible idea in America and throughout 401 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 4: the West of the moment. And not only are they 402 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 4: as a group comically clueless, but their race obsessions make 403 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 4: them utterly insufferable as well. 404 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 9: I'm going to be honest, I don't feel good about 405 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 9: being white every day for a lot of reasons. Because 406 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 9: it's a point of privilege that I get to move 407 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,479 Speaker 9: through the world in a way that so many of 408 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 9: my other colleagues and friends and family members of the 409 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 9: community don't get the privilege to do I'm and I'm 410 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 9: just a female, but just a woman, just a white woman. 411 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 9: If I was a white man, I would be functioning 412 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 9: from a point of even greater privilege. 413 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 4: That's Democrat Sarah Stolka from the great State of Kentucky, 414 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 4: and she's not satisfied with feeling bad about being watched herself. 415 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 4: She wants your kids to feel the same way. 416 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 3: This is just gross. 417 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 9: When kids have a moment to reflect about how the 418 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 9: color of their skin does and does not allow them 419 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 9: to move through the world, it's running running to them 420 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 9: and trying to stifle that and trying to say you 421 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 9: shouldn't feel bad. So we don't want to. We don't 422 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 9: want to ever expose you to something that is going 423 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 9: to make you have to pause and have maybe some 424 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 9: internal feelings. It's a missed opportunity for some really good dialogue. 425 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 4: I'm gonna play you a video now that could double 426 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 4: as an ad for homeschooling. This is what six great 427 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 4: students in Maryland were exposed to. 428 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 3: It's all about how to be non binary height. 429 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 12: We were actually talking about tips for being non binary. 430 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 12: If you feel like a label would be helpful for you, 431 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 12: then go ahead and attach yourself to that label, but 432 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 12: don't feel like you have to stick to it, and 433 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 12: you're able to change. 434 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 7: You can evolve. 435 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 12: I have had that experience myself in my own journey. 436 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 12: You know, I did identify as straight, even though I 437 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 12: never really was identified as by for a minute, even 438 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 12: though I actually was never by. And then I identified 439 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 12: as a lesbian, which is probably the closest terminology for 440 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 12: my sexuality because I like girls, and the non binary 441 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 12: thing also came around in an odd way. 442 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,959 Speaker 4: And why stop there with a great advice, Why not 443 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 4: tell confused girls how to bind their breast to hate 444 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 4: their own bodies so much that they resort to painful binding. 445 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 12: General advice about binding is make sure you're being safe 446 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 12: about it. Don't be wearing a binder more than eight 447 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 12: hours in a day, definitely not exercising. The reason why 448 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 12: I personally don't really wear binders that much is because 449 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 12: of breathing. 450 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 10: It restricts your breathing. 451 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 3: Restricts your breathing. 452 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 4: But by all means still advise confused girls to do it. 453 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 3: Just be safe about it. Restrict your breathing in a 454 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 3: safe manner. 455 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 4: And sticking with the excesses of the trans movement. Here 456 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 4: is California Governor Gavin Newsom. 457 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 11: We didn't get into transports. That's an issue no one 458 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 11: wants to hear about because eighty percent of people listening 459 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 11: disagree with my position on this. But it comes from 460 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 11: my heart, not just my head. It wasn't a political evolution. 461 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 11: It was position being that I don't think it's fair. 462 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 11: I want to see trans kids. I have a trans godsign. 463 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 11: There's no governor's sign more pro trans legislation than I have. 464 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 11: And no one has been a stronger abvocate for the 465 00:28:59,000 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 11: LGBK in you mintic. 466 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 4: At least he knows that eighty percent of people disagree 467 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 4: with him, one hundred percent of sane people. That's the 468 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 4: current king clown ruling over California. And if you thought 469 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 4: Gavin news was bad, just look at the Democrats looking 470 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 4: to replace him, including this next woman, Betty Ye, who 471 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 4: also can't see any issue with male bodies in female sport. 472 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 10: They are now part of. I mean, they have been 473 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 10: through a transition, the physical transition, and they do believe 474 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 10: that they should be able to participate. I think there's 475 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 10: a lot of information we need to learn about what's 476 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 10: really happening with the ability of trans athletes to compete. 477 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 10: But my statement is about being able to be sure 478 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 10: that they can compete. And right now there's. 479 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 5: More questions whether you think they should compete in women's 480 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 5: sport and the Olympics because it's coming to LAS, it's relevant. 481 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 10: I think transgender female athletes are women athletes and they 482 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 10: should be able to. 483 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 3: Really, there you go. 484 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 4: Mediocre male athletes everywhere can look forward to gold medals 485 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 4: in LA. Now this next clip is incredible, just the hysteria, 486 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 4: the divorce from reality, the sense of entitlement. Watch this 487 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 4: woman have a food blowing meltdown on behalf of a 488 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 4: trans client who was misgendered by a law enforcement officer. 489 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 2: Hey, TikTok, can you guys help me spam call the 490 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 2: Man County Probation Office in Montingalia County, West Virginia for 491 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: being transphobic as I took one of my clients today 492 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: to the probation office and he is a trans mask 493 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 2: individual and he went back to do a drug test 494 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: and when he was back there, the front desk lady 495 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 2: came out and said she'll be right out, and I 496 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: politely said you know, he goes by heating pronouns and 497 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: she looks at me and she says she has a vagina, 498 00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:02,479 Speaker 2: so she's a girl. I was just like stunned, like 499 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 2: I cannot believe that people are still saying this like 500 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: on the job. And then they wonder why queer people 501 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: and trans people are not showing up for promission, not 502 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 2: showing up for day report, not showing up for drug 503 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: court because they're misgendered and met with violent transphobia every 504 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 2: stuff of the. 505 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 4: Way, violence misgendering is now violence. And by misgendering, I 506 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 4: mean stating biological realities. Imagine how privilege you must be 507 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 4: to feel entitled to harass folks just doing their jobs 508 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 4: because they didn't play along with your delusions. Joining me 509 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 4: now is documentary filmmaker and commentator Army Horoiz. 510 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 3: Army. 511 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 4: There's plenty of drama around the sale of Warner Brothers. 512 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 4: Discovery Paramount has made a hostile bit or ki Warner Brothers, 513 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 4: and that's set up a furious bidding wall with Netflix 514 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 4: for the media giant. And now Donald Trump has had 515 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 4: his say. He's very interested in what happens to CNN. 516 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 13: I just think that the people that have run CNN 517 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 13: into the ground. By the way, nobody watches, very few 518 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 13: people watch. I don't think they should be entrusted with 519 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 13: running CNN any longer. So I think any deal should 520 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 13: it should be guaranteed and certain that CNN is part 521 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 13: of it or sold separately. 522 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 3: Amy, what's your take on that. 523 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a lot. 524 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 14: Look, Hollywood and the news media is changing, obviously, you 525 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 14: know this. 526 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 7: I know this dramatically. 527 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 14: This is a massive deal, both in terms of the 528 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 14: direction of Hollywood going forward and direction and the control 529 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 14: of the media, particularly. 530 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 7: News as well. 531 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 14: Right, Warner Brothers owns CNN, It owns a tremendous amount 532 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 14: of cable channels, one of the largest, if not the 533 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 14: largest studio in Hollywood, and there's a lot of consolidation 534 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 14: going on. Netflix came out of nowhere to make this bit. 535 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 14: It was crazy. People were shocked by it. And then 536 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 14: of course you had David Ellison and sky Dan's who 537 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 14: just consumed Paramount, coming in and going for a bit 538 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 14: of Warner Brothers. So look, first of all, let's let's 539 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 14: let's start with winners and losers. So for losers, Yeah, 540 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 14: one of the major losers on this thing is gonna 541 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 14: be Hollywood executives and the and the Hollywood elitist left 542 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 14: who will lose a lot of jobs. Right, they're talking 543 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 14: about six billion dollars of synergy. What does synergy mean? 544 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 14: It means people are going to be out of work. 545 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 14: I don't think that's such a bad thing, considering they 546 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 14: are so aligned against the Republicans and Trump winner. 547 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 7: Man, it looks like Barry Weiss might be cleaning up again. 548 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 14: Barry Weiss, of course the Center, very center, a free 549 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 14: press founder, former New York Times. 550 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 7: Ed writer. 551 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 14: She was brought in to be the CEO of CBS News, 552 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,719 Speaker 14: which was a massive win. And not for conservatives, but 553 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 14: for for truth in the news, right, simply not something 554 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 14: that's non biased is good for us. And that's what 555 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 14: she is. She's not a conservative, she's not a liberal. 556 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 14: She calls it, she sees it. Well, she may be 557 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 14: knocking the door being in charge of CNN as well. 558 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 14: I think that'd be great for freedom in media, right. 559 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 14: And I think that also we have to take a 560 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 14: look at the money that's being involved in this thing. Right, 561 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 14: you have Netflix between net think look the major By 562 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 14: the way, it's also great for consumers because Netflix and 563 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 14: Amazon control twenty percent of all streaming views. And as 564 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 14: we know, streaming is where everything is moved to, if 565 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 14: not has already moved to. So moving all of it 566 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 14: to and now I think between the combined Paramount and 567 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 14: Warner Brothers, you're gonna see more streaming competition happen. So 568 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 14: and and look the money being spent between those that 569 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 14: those be Hamdmoff's Prime Video, Slash, Amazon and and Serrandos 570 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 14: and Netflix. They gave over over ten million dollars to 571 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 14: Kamala Harris. So again, I think anything that stems that power, 572 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 14: that Hollywood liberal power, I think is. 573 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 7: A good thing in terms of what we should be 574 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 7: worrying about. 575 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 14: Look, I don't like that Trump is, you know, putting 576 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 14: his finger on the scale. I don't think that's helpful 577 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 14: to a deal like this. I don't think he needs 578 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 14: to talk about CNN. We all know the issues there. 579 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 14: And the other worrying thing slightly is there's a lot 580 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 14: of golf money involved with David Ellison and sky Dance 581 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 14: particularly there's there's six billion dollars coming for the Qataris. 582 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 7: I never love that. 583 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 14: So look that that's where I stand this thing overall, 584 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 14: as far as I go, Yeah, I'm on team Dan Ellison, 585 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 14: I'm on team Paramount, team Skydance. I definitely am not 586 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,720 Speaker 14: rooting for Netflix. 587 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 7: On this thing now. 588 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 4: Ami, the widow of Charlie Kirk Erica, has spoken out 589 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 4: about the many conspiracy theoriesing his murder. 590 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 3: She had this to say on Fox News. 591 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 15: Come after me, call me names, I don't care, call 592 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 15: me what you want, go down that rabbit hole whatever. 593 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,919 Speaker 15: But when you go after my family, my turning point, 594 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 15: USA family, my Charlie Kirkshaw family, When you go after 595 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 15: the people that I love, and you're making hundreds and 596 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 15: thousands of dollars every single episode going after the people 597 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 15: that I love because somehow they're in on this. This 598 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 15: is not okay. It's not healthy. This is a mind virus, Amie. 599 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 4: You've got the people who have no trust in the FBI, 600 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 4: even though it's Cash Bettel's FBI these days, who are 601 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 4: looking at all sorts of different theories about what happened there. 602 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 4: But Erica Kirk is also receiving vicious attacks from the left. 603 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 3: She has been the target of. 604 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 4: Vicious abuse as soon as she made the first statement 605 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 4: after Hersman's assassination, and among those leading the charge is 606 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 4: Jennifer Welch. Here is her latest commentary on Erica Kirk. 607 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,479 Speaker 16: This woman should be kicked to the curb. She is 608 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 16: an absolute grifter, just like Donald Trump and just like 609 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 16: her unrepentant, racist, homophobic husband was Ami. 610 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,760 Speaker 3: What's your response. 611 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,720 Speaker 7: To all that? Yeah, it never ends again. 612 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 14: Look, this is gonna be this segment's can be on 613 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,959 Speaker 14: the convergence of left and right. 614 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 7: Because you see his vicious attacks with both the hard 615 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 7: left and the hard right. 616 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 14: The despicable Candace Owens of course leading the charge like 617 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 14: she has on so many different bizarre anti Semitic conspiracy theories, 618 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 14: anti anti US conspiracy theories. 619 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 7: Yeah. 620 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 14: Look, she blames Charlie kirk'sassination on prominent Jews, on pro 621 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 14: Israel movement, on the military, on Macarone. He's got this 622 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 14: weird fascination with Macron and his wife. I really don't 623 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 14: fully understand it, to be honest with you. And this 624 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 14: is really becoming a litmus test on the right, Okay, 625 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 14: the people who are who are fueling these conspiracy theories 626 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 14: on the hard right. You know, Look, Tucker Carlson, he 627 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 14: gave what I thought was a horrific speech at Charlie 628 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 14: Kirk's memorial. 629 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 7: You were there. 630 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 14: I was there talking about Jesus and really kind of 631 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 14: referencing the Jews killing Jesus and they're involvement possibly in 632 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 14: this killing as well. Yeah, it's really problematic, and it's 633 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 14: from the right and the left. And the other thing 634 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 14: the right and the left for sharing is a distrust 635 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 14: and institutions, and particularly the FBI. And you said, look, 636 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 14: Cash Bartel is a good dude. Cash Hotael's a trust 637 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,919 Speaker 14: with a dur a transparent dude. A lot of people 638 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 14: in the FBI have been moved there who I know personally, 639 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 14: who I think are wonderful people. I think they're trying 640 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 14: to be as open transparent as they possibly can. 641 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 10: Right. 642 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 14: Obviously, there's there's an ongoing UH investigation and there's gonna 643 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 14: be ongoing core case on this, and they can't be 644 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 14: fully open everything. 645 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 7: But I think they're trying to be as as much 646 00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 7: they can. 647 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 14: But again, it's this lea fascinating convergence between the conspiracy 648 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 14: theories the left and the right, and they center around 649 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,280 Speaker 14: distrust institutions. 650 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 7: There's an iota of truth there. 651 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 14: Right, because there's been decades of mismanagement and failures among 652 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 14: our institutions, the FBI, the IRS, the State Department, and 653 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 14: I see where they're coming from, this whole deep state thing, 654 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 14: and there's some. 655 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 7: Truth to that. 656 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 14: But when you control Look, but when you control the 657 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 14: levers of government, and when the right, when the right 658 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 14: was complaining about the institutions on the left, I get it. 659 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 7: But when the right controls these levers and. 660 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 14: You're still pushing these conspiracy theories, it really is an 661 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 14: underlying issue of something far more problematic than just that 662 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 14: and the politics of it. 663 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 7: So I think this is very worrying. You know. 664 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 14: Look, republics fall when you don't trust the institutions holding 665 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 14: them up right, when you hollow those out, that's when 666 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 14: countries fail. 667 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 7: So I am very very worried about it. 668 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 14: And this Charlie kirk Thing Erica kirk Thing is a 669 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 14: litmus test, I think for a larger problem. 670 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 3: Amy Harwitz, thank you so much of her time tonight. 671 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 3: Where's your pleasure still to come? 672 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 4: Why Meghan markl is making such a show of contacting 673 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 4: her estranged father. Kinsey Schofield has a theory. 674 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 3: Welcome back joining me now. 675 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 4: Celebrity and royal commentator Kinsey Schofield Kinsey, We're going to 676 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,399 Speaker 4: get the Meghan Markles story out of the way first, 677 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 4: because we've got some political commentary from Hollywood to dive into, 678 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 4: and some of it is surprising. But Meghan Markle has 679 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 4: finally sent a letter to her father, Thomas, who is 680 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 4: recovering in a hospital in the Philippines. Meghan sent the 681 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,240 Speaker 4: letter through reliable and trusted contacts and it is said 682 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 4: to now be safely in her father's hands. But Kinsey, 683 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 4: why send something through the mail. It's been clear for 684 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 4: some time that Thomas wants to reestablish contact with his daughter, 685 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 4: he wants to meet his grandchildren. 686 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 17: I mean, it's one step up from an email. I 687 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 17: guess if my father was having multiple emergency surgeries and 688 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 17: losing limbs, I wouldn't be sending a homing pigeon instead 689 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 17: of picking up the phone or FaceTime and calling him. 690 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,399 Speaker 17: Just just make a phone call Megan. And how are 691 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 17: we supposed to take Kerry and Meghan seriously going forward 692 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 17: when they're at Invictus cheesing it up and smiling and 693 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,240 Speaker 17: posing up a storm with these wounded veterans for photographers, 694 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 17: when they can't even pick up the phone to call 695 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 17: Megan Markle's father. You know, it tells us that this 696 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 17: is all for PR. 697 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 3: I think you are one hundred percent right there. 698 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 4: This is a PR exercise. Now, Amanda Saferee, she's an actress. 699 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 4: I don't know if many of our audience would be 700 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 4: familiar with her work, but she's refused to apologize for 701 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 4: calling Charlie Kirk hateful. In fact, the actress has doubled down, 702 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 4: telling Who What Where that I said something that was 703 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 4: based on actual reality and actual footage and actual quotes. 704 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 4: What i said was pretty damn factual, and I'm free 705 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 4: to have an opinion, of course, except Kinsey. She seems 706 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 4: to think that Charlie's opinions were hateful, and I can 707 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 4: almost guarantee that there is a large gap between what 708 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 4: this woman thinks she knows and what the reality is. 709 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 17: Yea, And in her initial Instagram post, she alluded to 710 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 17: the fact that Charlie brought this on himself, his murder 711 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 17: on himself. No one deserves to die for their opinions. 712 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 17: We can all look like monsters when we're taken out 713 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 17: of context. And She's been in the media long enough 714 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 17: to know that Amanda does have a right to her 715 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 17: own opinion. But she risks alienating half the country when 716 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 17: she doubles down like this. Charlie's children are without a 717 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 17: father today, how would that make her feel? She has children? 718 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 17: There is no excuse for that, and her comments aren't helpful. 719 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 4: And she justified what she said by saying it's my opinion. 720 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 4: She's entitled to that opinion. But then she seems to 721 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 4: think other people have brought on an assassination by stating 722 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 4: their opinion. And if you think Charlie Kirk is hateful, 723 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,760 Speaker 4: the joyful warrior that he was, who was so polite 724 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 4: and so kind even in the most robust debates he had, 725 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,800 Speaker 4: I mean, really, you are existing in a parallel universe. Now, 726 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 4: this wouldn't have happened a few years ago, Kinsey. We've 727 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 4: got more actors coming out and endorsing Donald Trump. Have 728 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 4: a listened to Kelsey Grammer, the man behind Frasier. He 729 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 4: had a little jab at the Democrats expense and then 730 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,320 Speaker 4: praise Donald Trump. 731 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 12: I always love us. 732 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 14: When the Democrats start talking about affordability, you always know 733 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 14: they're going to charge you twice as much, three times 734 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 14: as much, Kinsey. 735 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 4: He went on to say some very complimentary things about 736 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 4: the President and We had Sylvester Stallone earlier in the 737 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 4: World Week also making some very positive comments. 738 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 17: You know what, the UK is rapidly growing global production wise. 739 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,240 Speaker 17: It's stolen so much business from Hollywood and it's taken 740 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 17: a significant amount of work away from La Home alone twos. 741 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 17: Donald Trump does love and appreciate Hollywood and wants them 742 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 17: to get back to work. You know, it's our politics 743 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 17: that have really put a lot of these actors and 744 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,280 Speaker 17: actresses out of work, Thank you, Governor Gavin Newsom. Trump's 745 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 17: even reportedly pushed Paramount to green light Rush Hour four. 746 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,879 Speaker 17: Maybe we'll hear more stars that miss when America dominated 747 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 17: the TV and movie industry speak out in support of 748 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,399 Speaker 17: the president. I don't know. 749 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fascinating because there definitely is a bit of 750 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 4: a cultural shift. These are just comments that wouldn't have 751 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 4: been made four years ago, or even during that first term. 752 00:44:55,160 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 4: Now to Gwen Stefani, the singer songwriter, she's been under 753 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 4: attack for partnering with a prayer app that is not 754 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 4: pro abortion. 755 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 3: Who could have thought that a prayer app would not 756 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 3: be pro abortion? 757 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 4: Kinzie, She's a Christian woman. Is she expected to endorse 758 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 4: pro abortion apps? 759 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: What's the issue here exactly. 760 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 17: Gwen Stefani doesn't even endorse anything but prayer and meditation 761 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 17: throughout these social media posts. Jack Nicholson is pro life, 762 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 17: Kelsey Grammer, who we just spoke about, Justin Bieber, and 763 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 17: none of those people have ever shoved that opinion down 764 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 17: our throats like the other side. At Christmas, we celebrate 765 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 17: a baby sent to save us. That's the reason for 766 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 17: the season. So why should personal faith be treated like 767 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 17: a controversy. 768 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 3: Now, let's talk about the MET Gala. 769 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:51,839 Speaker 4: Beyonce, Nicole Kidman, and Venus Williams have been unveiled as 770 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 4: the co chairs for the twenty twenty six Met Gala. 771 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 4: The three stars have been tapped to work with industry 772 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,240 Speaker 4: icon app A Winter on next year's event, and Kinsey. 773 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 4: The theme is going to be costume art and a 774 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 4: celebration between the intersection of the human body and art. 775 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 3: It sounds terribly pretentious, already. 776 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 17: Sounds a little slutty, you know. Nicole Kidman, I'm going 777 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 17: to say a standout star here. We love Nicole Kidman, 778 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 17: but I feel like the MET has taken such a 779 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 17: deep decline. And let me just predict right here on 780 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 17: your show, this is the first time I'm saying this. 781 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 17: Megan Markle has been trying to make nice with Vogue 782 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 17: for favorable coverage and to secure a ticket to the 783 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,720 Speaker 17: Met Gala with Beyonce on board. That's a realistic option 784 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 17: for her. Once the Met Gala goes rent a Prince 785 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 17: and Jam influencer, it becomes completely irrelevant. The Met dumpster 786 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 17: fire more like it. 787 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 3: Surely she can get a ticket to that. I mean, 788 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 3: everyone seems to be getting a ticket these days. I 789 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 3: don't think that's going to be much of a coup 790 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:00,839 Speaker 3: for her. 791 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 4: Laura Sanchez Bezos is going to be the lead sponsor 792 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 4: of the twenty twenty six Medgala. I guess you can 793 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,799 Speaker 4: do that after you marry one of the richest men 794 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 4: in the world. But has the whole thing kind of 795 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 4: lost its luster already? 796 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 17: It has, I mean, the ultimate objective originally was to 797 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 17: secure some America's fiercest art dealers and art connoisseurs, and 798 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,800 Speaker 17: it's now just full of influencers, tik talkers, and Kardashians, 799 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 17: So it has It's not what it once was, but 800 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,800 Speaker 17: it does seem to be taking an even steeper decline lately. 801 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,280 Speaker 17: You know, you don't see even Katoure. It just feels 802 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,720 Speaker 17: like a costume silly costume contest. 803 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 4: I think it jumped the shark when AOC attended. Remember, 804 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,360 Speaker 4: I think she had tax the Reach or something like 805 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 4: that on her dress. So I think, right then and 806 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,720 Speaker 4: there the met Gala completely lost its luster, dropped the shark, 807 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 4: and we really couldn't care less. Though every now and 808 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 4: then there's an outfit that is stunning. Kinsisco Field, we 809 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 4: always appreciate you. Thank you so much for your time tonight, 810 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 4: and that's all the time we have. 811 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 3: I'll see you tomorrow night. 812 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 4: For lefties losing it at nine pm, don't go anywhere. 813 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 3: Newsnight is up next