Speaker 1: From the United States.
Speaker 2: This is Paul Murray, Live Gooday.
Speaker 1: Australia, and welcome to Washington. As the impact of the
Speaker 1: US election is being felt not just here in the
Speaker 1: capital of the Democracy, but around the world. Our final
Speaker 1: show from Washington is going to be one full of
Speaker 1: all stars. We have got the best lineup you will
Speaker 1: see all day and it begins with our dear friend
Speaker 1: Meghan Kelly. Meghan Kelly, of course, wasn't just somebody who
Speaker 1: talked about Donald Trump, but as you know, she ended
Speaker 1: up standing with Donald Trump. I think what she had
Speaker 1: to say was critical in being able to give a
Speaker 1: whole collection of people the final permission to be able
Speaker 1: to vote for him. Meghan Kelly with the inside story
Speaker 1: of her role in the Trump victory in moments from now.
Speaker 1: Mick mulvaney will join us as well. Now, now you've
Speaker 1: seen Nick a lot on the channel over the past
Speaker 1: few days. What is fascinating about the chat that we're
Speaker 1: going to have is how do you put together a government?
Speaker 1: How will Trump put together a government? How does Trump
Speaker 1: two point zero make decisions that are different than Trump
Speaker 1: one point Oh. There's also an awful lot of detail
Speaker 1: that I want to get to this morning about how
Speaker 1: the Democrats, to quote one organization, are scratching their eyes out.
Speaker 1: Now away from all of this, a dear friend, mentor
Speaker 1: and a hero of mine has made a very big
Speaker 1: decision today. He's made it public, and that is that
Speaker 1: the great broadcaster Ray Hadley is stepping away from two GB.
Speaker 1: He has had an incredible career, a Hall of Fame career.
Speaker 1: We will discuss it and his decision to step away
Speaker 1: from the day to day of an incredible grind but
Speaker 1: also an incredible career at Ray Hadley in a moment
Speaker 1: or two's time. But let's deal with everything that is
Speaker 1: happening in the United States today now. Obviously, when we're
Speaker 1: not on television, we're trying to talk to as many
Speaker 1: people as possible to get a bit of an idea
Speaker 1: about what is going on. And the days in Washington
Speaker 1: are absolutely spectacular. The mornings were a little bit cold,
Speaker 1: but this was an image that we were lucky enough
Speaker 1: to be able to capture, which I think is going
Speaker 1: to become an iconic image. The day after Donald Trump
Speaker 1: wins the presidency, somebody with the giant flag the Maga
Speaker 1: hat makes their way down to the White House. This
Speaker 1: is the equivalent of the undernew Management sign being hung
Speaker 1: at the White House. Have a look at that as
Speaker 1: people of many places come to celebrate the result that,
Speaker 1: of course they took such a massive role in. Now
Speaker 1: I mentioned Meghan Kelly as well, and I've got to say,
Speaker 1: I want to play you the way that she started
Speaker 1: her show today in the United States. Now, of course
Speaker 1: we love her, but she is such a consummate professional
Speaker 1: and a brilliant broadcaster. And she's somebody who called bs
Speaker 1: on Kamala Harris years ago and has this for middle stump.
Speaker 1: She used the words of Harris to describe the joy
Speaker 1: of Trump.
Speaker 3: The dreams, the ambitions, the aspirations that were unburdened by
Speaker 3: what has been when Americans decided to turn the page
Speaker 3: on the Democrats and say we are not going back,
Speaker 3: and say hard work is good work.
Speaker 1: She even used the actual footage of Kamala Harris's Joy
Speaker 1: to explain the feeling in trump Land, which is otherwise
Speaker 1: known as the USI right now, but joy.
Speaker 4: Cometh in the morning.
Speaker 5: The path may seem hard, the work may seem heavy,
Speaker 5: but joy cometh in the morning, and just morning is
Speaker 5: on its way.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, preach sister Joy does come with in the morning.
Speaker 1: Well it's morning here in America, and we will continue
Speaker 1: to talk to Megan about the joy that she and
Speaker 1: many other people are feeling. Now, let's get to what
Speaker 1: I think the story of the day is. And after
Speaker 1: playing nice on election night, after slowly going to their corners,
Speaker 1: licking their wounds, and Kamala Harris finally conceding this election,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden will speak from the White House today. Joe
Speaker 1: Biden will of course not answer any questions from the
Speaker 1: White House today, and he will talk about the importance
Speaker 1: of a peaceful transfer of power. It is a difference between,
Speaker 1: of course, what happened four years ago and what is
Speaker 1: about to happen in January. But the real story is
Speaker 1: one that will not play out in front of the cameras. Now,
Speaker 1: let me explain what we're about to see now. When
Speaker 1: you lose, it's everyone else's fault. When you win, oh,
Speaker 1: I was one hundred percent responsible. So you've got to
Speaker 1: take big grains of salt with all of this. But
Speaker 1: you need to understand the tension that was always in
Speaker 1: and around firstly the Biden campaign that then became the
Speaker 1: Harris campaign, and it connects back to the Obama campaign. Now,
Speaker 1: obviously Joe Biden hates Barack Obama because Barack Obama and
Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi got together and started to use all of
Speaker 1: the tricks of the trade and all of the tools
Speaker 1: that they had to push Biden out of the election. Now,
Speaker 1: whether that was exposing him to a debate which had
Speaker 1: never happened before in a modern presidential campaign, remember that
Speaker 1: happened in June, which exposed how weak he had become,
Speaker 1: which produced a whole collection of pressure That meant he
Speaker 1: was eventually confronted and pretty obviously behind the scene. As
Speaker 1: you can imagine, he was offered one of two options.
Speaker 1: If you go now, we'll treat you like a hero,
Speaker 1: we'll name buildings after you. But if you don't go,
Speaker 1: we're going to blast you out. And that means everything
Speaker 1: from the twenty fifth Amendment to let's start to have
Speaker 1: a look maybe inside Hunter's laptop. So of course he
Speaker 1: goes Harris. Then in twenty four hours is able to
Speaker 1: seal the deal because clearly she's been working behind the
Speaker 1: scenes for the many weeks seeing what's coming, to make
Speaker 1: sure that everyone else is out of the way. But
Speaker 1: because the election was so close, and because Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: has pretended to be side by side with Joe Biden
Speaker 1: the entire time, I am a continuation of what he
Speaker 1: is doing, but I'm really a brand new broom. She
Speaker 1: kept all of his campaign machine in place. Literally, her
Speaker 1: campaign was not run from Washington, it was not run
Speaker 1: from California. It was not wrong from Chicago. It was
Speaker 1: run from Wilmington, Delaware. It was Joe Biden's team that
Speaker 1: was still making the calls about how the Harris campaign
Speaker 1: was run. However, there was a little cherry on top,
Speaker 1: which was the price of the nomination, which was that
Speaker 1: for Barack Obama to help put it in her hands,
Speaker 1: she had to take on his former campaign chief. So
Speaker 1: you have the Biden machine being told what to do
Speaker 1: by the Obama team. Inevitably that's going to lead to fights. Then,
Speaker 1: of course there's the Harris team who were saying, well, great, guys,
Speaker 1: it's not about you, it's about us. But of course,
Speaker 1: the last time the Harris team ran for president, she
Speaker 1: wasn't even able to get past the first round. Remember,
Speaker 1: she dropped out before the primary took place, and Joe
Speaker 1: Biden became the nominee. In twenty twenty. So with all
Speaker 1: of that swirling around, with all that palace intrigue, I
Speaker 1: want to show you a story which has just dropped
Speaker 1: on a website called Politico. Now Politico is a very
Speaker 1: inside baseball, inside politics. It's literally media about the bubble
Speaker 1: for the bubble, read by the inner bubble. Okay, here
Speaker 1: is how they are starting to point fingers at each other. Now,
Speaker 1: as you can see, team Biden versus team Harris, who
Speaker 1: lost twenty twenty four. The Biden sympathizers want to pin
Speaker 1: her loss on well her. The Harris defenders believe Biden's
Speaker 1: undeniably at fault for creating a forbidding political environment. She
Speaker 1: proved unable to overcome. The early hours recriminations only highlight
Speaker 1: the denialism of both factions in the wake of what
Speaker 1: will be the first GOP popular vote in two decades.
Speaker 1: This failure has many fathers. The article continues and we
Speaker 1: start to get into some stories now about what was
Speaker 1: really going on behind the Joy and Love campaign. Given
Speaker 1: the scale of difficulty that she faced and yes, how
Speaker 1: bad the initial internal polling was. She was being advised
Speaker 1: by people who helped her through her political career in
Speaker 1: California to start taking some risks. Yet since she first
Speaker 1: was elected, Harris has been cautious to a fault, and
Speaker 1: here was once again at a moment that demanded risk.
Speaker 1: She may well have done the best that she could,
Speaker 1: as one person close to her told the reporter who
Speaker 1: wrote this story yesterday that there was no example of
Speaker 1: her actually confronting Biden on immigration or the Middle East.
Speaker 1: So it put simply if she turned around and started
Speaker 1: to say, well, Joe was wrong here and Joe was
Speaker 1: wrong there, the problem was she was in lockstep the
Speaker 1: whole time. Why because she knew that her run at
Speaker 1: the presidency was going to come four years later if
Speaker 1: Joe Biden had been re elected, or her run of
Speaker 1: the presidency would come four years later if Joe Biden
Speaker 1: had been defeated. No plan for her to be running now.
Speaker 1: But then the daylight started to open and she ran
Speaker 1: through it with the help of, among others, Barack Obama.
Speaker 1: Now fascinating to notice here too, this is how it ends.
Speaker 1: Democrats don't just have a Harris or Biden problem. Their
Speaker 1: challenge is far deeper. They have a voter problem. So
Speaker 1: this is the story, right, We're past all the fakery,
Speaker 1: and we're now going to start to see the lie
Speaker 1: that was put before the American people in a desperate
Speaker 1: hope that they would be able to win this election. Now,
Speaker 1: in terms of some of the reaction to it, it
Speaker 1: will not surprise you that the lefty media is not
Speaker 1: taking this well. Now. Don't forget. They don't like the result,
Speaker 1: but they also don't like that they have now lost
Speaker 1: control over the American people to tell them what is
Speaker 1: what the priorities of what they should think before they vote.
Speaker 1: Here's some of the media meltdown that's been playing over
Speaker 1: the airwaves and online in the past day.
Speaker 4: There are levels of sexism and racism that clearly a
Speaker 4: lot of people in this country are willing to tolerate.
Speaker 6: I can't help but wonder if the American people have
Speaker 6: given up on democracy.
Speaker 7: Okay, let's be absolutely blunt about it. There were appeals
Speaker 7: to racism in this campaign, and there is racial bias
Speaker 7: in this country, and there is sexism in this country.
Speaker 7: And anybody who thinks that that did not in any
Speaker 7: way impact on the outcome of this race is wrong.
Speaker 4: Black voters came through for Kamala Harris. White women voters did.
Speaker 8: Not Donald Trump has been impeached twice, he was indicted
Speaker 8: four times, convicted on thirty four felon accounts. He's been
Speaker 8: found liable of sexual abuse. His campaign spewed a lot
Speaker 8: of racism, misogynies, you knowphobia, but voters seem to overlook
Speaker 8: all of that.
Speaker 1: This is the country we live in. People at this
Speaker 1: point want a strong man who's a bully, and they
Speaker 1: got a strong man who's a bully.
Speaker 9: I mean, I think we need to start saying out
Speaker 9: loud that you know what is different between Joe Biden
Speaker 9: and Kamala Harris. Everybody thinks they're exactly the same on policies,
Speaker 9: but one is a woman of color and the other
Speaker 9: is a white man that everybody was really comfortable with
Speaker 9: that were moderates and knew him well and had known
Speaker 9: him for decades.
Speaker 1: Now, of course, the truth is that they could be
Speaker 1: blaming and pointing and winging and all the rest of it.
Speaker 1: Remember these were the people who pretended nothing to see him.
Speaker 1: When it comes to Joe Biden, who was melting before
Speaker 1: our very eyes, was all cheap fakes, deep fakes. And
Speaker 1: remember it was like day forty nine of his presidency
Speaker 1: in two thousand and one when I showed you the
Speaker 1: video of him falling up the stairs, that was the
Speaker 1: first sign of that decline. And of course all the
Speaker 1: polites media wouldn't dare get involved in that conversation. But
Speaker 1: please spare a thought for the ladies of the view.
Speaker 1: They had one heck of a struggle session on air today.
Speaker 1: I get it their team lost, but what about this
Speaker 1: for Denile.
Speaker 3: It would help if we could regulate social media because
Speaker 3: one of the biggest defenders is DC and Congress have
Speaker 3: not been able to do one thing in regard to
Speaker 3: the role corporations.
Speaker 1: I got journey about it.
Speaker 4: As a woman of color.
Speaker 6: I was so hopeful that a mixed race woman married
Speaker 6: to a Jewish guy could be elected president of this country.
Speaker 6: And I think that it had nothing to do with policy.
Speaker 6: I think this was a referendum of cultural resentment in
Speaker 6: this country.
Speaker 4: He's now the president. I'm still not gonna say his name.
Speaker 1: Well, good luck to you. Right these people can live
Speaker 1: in their own bubble, their own bubble of denial. They
Speaker 1: can turn around and say that they know better than
Speaker 1: everyone else. Here's the deal, right now, if you have
Speaker 1: an opinion show, you're allowed to have a strong opinion.
Speaker 1: But if you think that your opinion is the only
Speaker 1: opinion right, and I say that as the person with
Speaker 1: the opinion on the television, then you have lost all
Speaker 1: touch with reality. Okay. You need to always keep your
Speaker 1: head on a swivel to work out what the people
Speaker 1: who you completely disagree with might actually be right about.
Speaker 1: And this is part of what I think is going
Speaker 1: to be one of the five things that we have
Speaker 1: not just learned about this election, but the five things
Speaker 1: that you need to think about when you think about
Speaker 1: American politics going forward. All right, now, I love this
Speaker 1: as a sort of a side hustle to our focus
Speaker 1: on Australia, But let me talk now about these five things, right,
Speaker 1: because I think this is important to have a look
Speaker 1: at about where we go to in the future. Now, first,
Speaker 1: poles don't matter anymore, Okay, we all know that they
Speaker 1: can be fiddled with, and I don't mean fiddled with
Speaker 1: in some sort of way where they are manufacturing the answer.
Speaker 1: What I think they're doing is they clearly are unable
Speaker 1: to talk to a section of the country that does
Speaker 1: not want to talk to them. So if you want
Speaker 1: to know who's up and who's down for the next
Speaker 1: four years until polls are proven right, and they won't
Speaker 1: be follow the bookies. That poly market, in particular, it
Speaker 1: was an excellent indicator of who was up and who
Speaker 1: was down depending on any one day. I also say
Speaker 1: that one of the five things you need to keep
Speaker 1: an eye on for the next four years is that
Speaker 1: the top down media is done in the United States. Now,
Speaker 1: will they continue to exist, sure? Will they continue to
Speaker 1: have fewer viewers, fewer readers, fewer listeners because they are
Speaker 1: talking to a smaller and smaller and smaller circum Yes.
Speaker 1: Now that does not mean that facts don't matter, the
Speaker 1: truth doesn't matter, that people should just read like North
Speaker 1: Korean television talking points from the White House each and
Speaker 1: every day. But the idea that unnamed sources have said
Speaker 1: this and said that every and you never give the
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt to the person you disagree with politically,
Speaker 1: well it's just not going to work anymore. You also
Speaker 1: need to get back to a little bit of old school,
Speaker 1: which is, hello, I'm the news reporter. This is what
Speaker 1: happened today. He said this, she said that, he promised this,
Speaker 1: she promised that, and stopped telling us what you think
Speaker 1: of what he said today? Or what she did today
Speaker 1: if they want to have any relevance back into the future,
Speaker 1: but their moment in the sun has gone. The Internet
Speaker 1: has won this election as the main source of information,
Speaker 1: all right, it's really important. Second third thing, No one
Speaker 1: cares about endorsements. It doesn't matter if it's a form president,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter if it's Oprah Winfrey. It doesn't
Speaker 1: matter if it's Taylor Swift. No one cares. Why because
Speaker 1: none of these people are like the people who are
Speaker 1: actually voting. These are essentially like people who live in
Speaker 1: castles in Martha's Vineyard or California, and they walk out
Speaker 1: onto the balcony to tell the people what to do.
Speaker 1: We love when they sing, we love when they act,
Speaker 1: we love when they dance, we love when they play football.
Speaker 1: But I don't care what their view is about how
Speaker 1: the world should work. Also, political parties can no longer
Speaker 1: do the Jedi mind trick thing. Okay, We've talked about
Speaker 1: this a lot, about when the Labour Party will turn
Speaker 1: around in Australia and say the economy is amazing. Don't worry. No,
Speaker 1: the economy is not amazing because the people who are
Speaker 1: in it have less money and everything costs more. And finally,
Speaker 1: beware the power of the forbidden. Anyone who's got toddlers, teenagers,
Speaker 1: or remembers when you were young, when you were told
Speaker 1: don't do this and don't do that, and that's bad.
Speaker 1: Guess what you want to do. If they have spent
Speaker 1: years saying you put that red hat on, then you're
Speaker 1: making a mistake. Guess what they do. They want to
Speaker 1: do it, because, apart from anything else, it is a
Speaker 1: giant middle finger to the person who is telling you
Speaker 1: not to do it. Five things to pay attention to
Speaker 1: in the next four years. As we head home at
Speaker 1: the end of tonight's broadcast, and we turn our attention
Speaker 1: to our own politics. As I say, we spent the
Speaker 1: day walking around in Washington today in the shadows of
Speaker 1: the White House, just to see how people felt the
Speaker 1: morning after. And guess what they were cool, laurious day. Hey,
Speaker 1: this is it the glorious day you're feeling after the election?
Speaker 4: I think not either way.
Speaker 6: I'm okay with who was selected, whether it be Donald
Speaker 6: Trump or whether it be Kamalaer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and guess what. The sun came up the next
Speaker 1: day and it's a beautiful day alive. That's it and
Speaker 1: you've got your family and you're on the scooters.
Speaker 4: And that's what matters. It's in Gud's plans. If it's
Speaker 4: Guard's plan, does Gus what's going to happen?
Speaker 1: Was it good that it was a blowout, nice and decisive,
Speaker 1: no mucking around, no the Russians or no stolen ballots?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, without you know all that show and tell stuff.
Speaker 1: And it looks like a cleaner win.
Speaker 8: It looks like a more efficient election than it did
Speaker 8: a couple of years ago.
Speaker 9: When I'll want to come together, that's the issue here.
Speaker 9: So the problem is that we think that this person
Speaker 9: has one, this person's lost.
Speaker 4: But it's not about that.
Speaker 1: It's about coming together. Now. Let's let's get this.
Speaker 7: Let's get a.
Speaker 9: Country back to where it needs to be.
Speaker 1: I've been here for a week and that's the nicest
Speaker 1: thing I've heard since I've been here. Man.
Speaker 3: I was a little older earlier and asked him if
Speaker 3: I can hang out a banner on here, Welcome.
Speaker 1: Home, Matt Tony and lets you close to it. Ross
Speaker 1: Greenwood has been following the events of this week from
Speaker 1: New York. Ross. It is, of course the start of
Speaker 1: a day where we reflect upon what might be ahead.
Speaker 1: It'll be fascinating to watch the Democrats call each other's
Speaker 1: eyes out. It'll be fascinating to watch who Trump's going
Speaker 1: to start to put into his into his cabinet. But
Speaker 1: if the stock market was the next version of the
Speaker 1: betting markets, they like the result.
Speaker 10: They did, and really the stock market took off. But
Speaker 10: have a look at the bitcoin price. That was the
Speaker 10: thing that I watched.
Speaker 11: Now.
Speaker 10: Of course Trump has always been a big supporter of cryptocurrency,
Speaker 10: so as Elon Musk has backed him, and as the
Speaker 10: big winner of the day, no doubt He's wealth went
Speaker 10: up fifteen point four billion dollars because Tesla sharsburn. But
Speaker 10: bitcoin went through seventy six thousand dollars US for the
Speaker 10: very first time, some suggesting it's on its way to
Speaker 10: one hundred thousand. So in many ways, this is, you know,
Speaker 10: the way in which people might have could argue gambled
Speaker 10: on this election result. But it's also the way in
Speaker 10: which people think that America will prosper under the Trump administration.
Speaker 10: And you're right about the people that he's now making
Speaker 10: selections about who does he put in Secretary of Defense.
Speaker 10: Mario Rubio potentially could come back. A guy got a
Speaker 10: good story for you, And this is a guy called
Speaker 10: John Paulson could be the new Treasury Secretary replacing Janet Yellam.
Speaker 10: His background's kind of interesting. If you've ever seen that
Speaker 10: amazing film about the collapse of Ball Street the global
Speaker 10: financial crisis, the Big Short, well he was one of
Speaker 10: those guys who was a part of the Big Short,
Speaker 10: made three billion dollars in his hedge fund as a
Speaker 10: result of it. Well, he could be the new man
Speaker 10: with the real hands on the tiller of the America's
Speaker 10: economy under the Trump administration. So it's just interesting to
Speaker 10: see how Trump picks these people the way in which
Speaker 10: they then respond to his agenda. But the one thing
Speaker 10: is that no matter who was appointed, Trump will have
Speaker 10: his hand right over the top of them, because.
Speaker 1: This is his agenda.
Speaker 10: This is his view of the way in which America's
Speaker 10: economy can grow into the future and the way in
Speaker 10: which he can bring manufacturing back into the United States.
Speaker 10: Because that's what, as you point out, this was about
Speaker 10: ordinary people saying, we do actually want the jobs here,
Speaker 10: we do want to have the energy here, we do
Speaker 10: want to have the security here. So these are the
Speaker 10: things that people ultimately voted for in this election campaign,
Speaker 10: which is the reason why he's also won the popular
Speaker 10: vote in this campaign.
Speaker 1: Well, and also, you know, don't forget and by that,
Speaker 1: I'm saying to people paying attention because obviously Ross knows
Speaker 1: this stuff sort of inside and out, and it's why
Speaker 1: we love him, why you gotta watch your show each
Speaker 1: and every each and every day. Which is Trump made
Speaker 1: a promise during the campaign that if you're a company
Speaker 1: who's currently making something overseas and you brought your business
Speaker 1: back to America, you would pay a twelve percent company tax.
Speaker 1: Like this is dramatically lower than even the lower company
Speaker 1: taxes that he had promised. But can we get back
Speaker 1: to bitcoin for a second, because for people that are
Speaker 1: watching who have heard of bitcoin, it's obviously this alternative
Speaker 1: currency in the same way that you know, we decided
Speaker 1: paper had value or gold had value. So what role
Speaker 1: would bitcoin if in the best case scenario for those
Speaker 1: that want to back it in, what role would it
Speaker 1: play in an economy? Would you be able to buy
Speaker 1: a movie ticket with it? Would you be able to
Speaker 1: buy a car with it? Would it become in the
Speaker 1: same way you can and over fifty pieces of silver
Speaker 1: you can hand over x you know, bits of coin.
Speaker 10: Look, I've got a sense it doesn't even do that
Speaker 10: in the future. I've got a sense that, Look, we
Speaker 10: know the cash is disappearing anyway. It's all about your
Speaker 10: card and your phone. That's the way people pay. And
Speaker 10: that's a form of cryptocurrency if you like the way
Speaker 10: in which it's used today. But the reality is it's
Speaker 10: a store of value, just like gold is a store
Speaker 10: of value. But he's a backer of bitcoin. So the
Speaker 10: reality is that it's going to grow. But there's one
Speaker 10: other little part about this is to be able to
Speaker 10: create new bitcoins, new cryptocurrencies.
Speaker 1: Guess what you need.
Speaker 10: You need big data banks. You need these giant data
Speaker 10: centers to be able to create that. So you need energy.
Speaker 10: Guess what sort of energy you need in the United
Speaker 10: States and around the world.
Speaker 1: You need nuclear energy.
Speaker 10: Donald Trump will bring plenty of that back in because
Speaker 10: this is about making America not just great but competitive.
Speaker 10: Now you talked about that thirteen percent, twelve thirteen percent
Speaker 10: tax rate for companies bringing businesses back on shore. We'll
Speaker 10: guess what. That is much cheaper than the thirty percent
Speaker 10: tax that Australian companies pay.
Speaker 1: So what's the answer to that.
Speaker 10: A whole bunch of companies that are multinationals will go.
Speaker 10: Where are we going to make more money in Australia
Speaker 10: where the labor laws are so much tougher, in Australia
Speaker 10: where the actual laws on the environment are much tougher,
Speaker 10: Or are we going to make.
Speaker 1: That money in America?
Speaker 10: It doesn't matter whether they're making bricks or whether they're
Speaker 10: making steel, or whether they're trying to explore for gas.
Speaker 10: I mean, really the gas explorers in Australia that giant
Speaker 10: gas companies don't get a look in in Canberra right now.
Speaker 10: So guess what when they tune up in Mexico or
Speaker 10: in the United States, they get treated, they get faded,
Speaker 10: and they get welcomed for their investment. And that perhaps
Speaker 10: is a lesson for Australia and its politics into the future.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. The logic about a company paying less
Speaker 1: tax is not about tax avoidance. It's about, as you say,
Speaker 1: the money that they end up making is that they
Speaker 1: end up making it via the employment that is created.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Ross, I really do appreciate it. Now. Let's
Speaker 1: step away from the United States for a second. Meghan
Speaker 1: Kelly in a moment of two times and I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: this is a cracker of a chat. This is probably
Speaker 1: the best one we've ever had. And you know how
Speaker 1: much fun I have talking to her. Ray Hadley. Ray
Speaker 1: Hadley is a Hall of fame broadcaster. Ray Hadley has
Speaker 1: a voice that when I was dreaming of doing this
Speaker 1: for a job, that I was listening to on the
Speaker 1: car radio, on the clock radio. He's a man who
Speaker 1: was able to live his dream of becoming a working
Speaker 1: class kid, then becoming the horse racing caller, then the
Speaker 1: rugby league caller, then the filly in host for John Laws,
Speaker 1: and then a stunning host in his own right, where
Speaker 1: his entire career at TUI and TGB is one where
Speaker 1: he has won survey after survey after survey, an unbroken
Speaker 1: run run for the best part of twenty years. I've
Speaker 1: had the chance to talk to him about a big
Speaker 1: decision today and that is to reflect upon his decision
Speaker 1: to retire from the five day a week show at
Speaker 1: two GB, and it was a privileged to talk to
Speaker 1: him just moments.
Speaker 5: Ago that when you make the the announcement that two
Speaker 5: hours later and think, oh jeez, I shouldn't have said that.
Speaker 5: I want to stay, but there was a lot of
Speaker 5: forethought went into it, a lot of discussion with our CEO,
Speaker 5: Tom Maline about where I'd beheaded and what I wanted
Speaker 5: to do. Two years left in the contract, so I
Speaker 5: would obviously want to one or a contract. But I
Speaker 5: explained to Tom in Paris during the Olympics and then
Speaker 5: again more recently, that I thought I was running out
Speaker 5: of steam, that the best time for me to go
Speaker 5: would be now on December thirteen, because then he'd have
Speaker 5: a chance to get someone to replace me out of
Speaker 5: the Christmas break and they could start afresh with a
Speaker 5: brand new survey in twenty twenty five. And I feel
Speaker 5: really comfortable. I've had a very busy day, as you
Speaker 5: would imagine. I promised my dear friend John Tap I
Speaker 5: do his five hundred podcast, So Tappy and I started reminiscing.
Speaker 5: The podcast was basically about forty minutes. We went, I
Speaker 5: met an hour and seventeen. Apparently I don't know if
Speaker 5: they'll all make it to the cutting room floor, but
Speaker 5: so I've done that, and I've had a bit of
Speaker 5: fun with a good old mate in John Tapp, and
Speaker 5: then I'm here to be with another mate in you.
Speaker 5: So I'm happy to be here and happy to accept
Speaker 5: your congratulations and accept the fact that I'm an Admira abuse.
Speaker 5: You know, when I tell people today I was going
Speaker 5: on your program, I get all these text messages from
Speaker 5: listeners on their Gold Coast saying, I can't wait to
Speaker 5: see Paul.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see you and Paul.
Speaker 5: So to Margie and John on the Gold Coast, I'm
Speaker 5: here as promised.
Speaker 1: God love you, God love you and always. Certainly in
Speaker 1: terms of the people that are watching us and listening
Speaker 1: to you, there's quite a lot of crossover. So thank
Speaker 1: you to the people who have supported me, who have
Speaker 1: supported you for such a long time. And let's let's
Speaker 1: go back to the days where you dreamt of working
Speaker 1: on the radio and to be told that you'd have
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame career. You'd never believe it at
Speaker 1: the start. You'd go, jeez, I hope I get a crack.
Speaker 1: I hope I can do a year. I hope I
Speaker 1: can do five. If you could go back and say
Speaker 1: to the young kid who dreamt of doing it, what's
Speaker 1: it like to have been able delivered dream a decade
Speaker 1: after decade?
Speaker 2: Surreal?
Speaker 5: I was an auctioneer, a young auctioneer for a pastoral
Speaker 5: company called pittsund and Battery.
Speaker 2: Wanted to be a race caller. That's all I wanted
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 5: I want to be a race caller, so I chased
Speaker 5: that dream in my early twenties.
Speaker 2: In the end, the dream was almost a nightmare.
Speaker 5: I turned a cab because I couldn't feed myself, and
Speaker 5: then one day I got a job at Appen Dogs,
Speaker 5: just southwest of Sydney, fifteen races every Saturday afternoon for
Speaker 5: thirty seven dollars fifty. I had a job for three
Speaker 5: hundred a week before that, so I lost about two
Speaker 5: hundred and seventy in the bargain. And then I kept
Speaker 5: driving the cab and kept calling the dogs. I end
Speaker 5: up doing Naura and Bully and Appen And then finally
Speaker 5: I picked up a bloke called Mark Collier one night
Speaker 5: on a Tuesday night from two Ui, Miller McLaren took
Speaker 5: him to North Ride and in the space of about
Speaker 5: a forty minute cab ride, I convinced him that he
Speaker 5: should give me some sort of opportunity at two Yui.
Speaker 5: I remember what he said to me, poor he said.
Speaker 5: On the way there, he said are you at Yuni? No, mate,
Speaker 5: Now I'm a race caller. He said, you're a race
Speaker 5: caller driving a cab on Tuesday night. I take it
Speaker 5: not a very good race caller, and it was hard
Speaker 5: to argue with that.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 5: He gave me a job as a He gave me
Speaker 5: a job as a traffic reporter, and I worked for
Speaker 5: the great Garrio Callahan for a couple of years. Then
Speaker 5: I graduated a sport as an offsided there's Hoisted, a
Speaker 5: legendary race caller along with John Tap who's.
Speaker 2: Remained a mate ever since.
Speaker 5: And then football at eighty seven, and the rest, as
Speaker 5: you say, is history. Talk back at ninety two, and
Speaker 5: then my own gig in two thousand and two, all
Speaker 5: those years ago at two GB.
Speaker 1: When you were announcing it today, a particular focus was
Speaker 1: about how your life has changed, certainly specifically in the
Speaker 1: last ten years, where you've got all these beautiful grandkids,
Speaker 1: you've got this beautiful wife, and you've got a different
Speaker 1: life than where you were, and you could really tell
Speaker 1: that you want to hang out with these people, you
Speaker 1: want to be able to give their all of you,
Speaker 1: because you know to do what you do is a
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven gig and what does it feel
Speaker 1: like now to be turning to twenty four to seven
Speaker 1: pop up?
Speaker 2: Well, it's great.
Speaker 5: I'm going to do something in twenty twenty five and
Speaker 5: I are quite what yet, but I won't I won't
Speaker 5: be on radio, but yeah, it's fantastic.
Speaker 2: Look you start at halt us three. I'm not winging.
Speaker 5: I got really well paid for staying at ut us three.
Speaker 5: I'm not windy about it. And then you go flat
Speaker 5: strap all day. You get the work at half pas
Speaker 5: four and you knock off at twelve, and then my.
Speaker 2: Children say, what are you whining about?
Speaker 5: You do fifteen hours a week and we have a
Speaker 5: laugh about that, and then there are other things you
Speaker 5: do through the course of the day and the night,
Speaker 5: and you start all over again and go through it.
Speaker 5: I've got a very supportive wife in Saphie. She's just
Speaker 5: a champion, and she's worked with me for a ten
Speaker 5: years and we've been married for almost four years now,
Speaker 5: and she's turned my life around. Which is the same
Speaker 5: time that I started having grandchildren. Neighbors turning six and
Speaker 5: no he's turning six next year, and then the other
Speaker 5: five little grand kids down to little Miller who's the
Speaker 5: newest edition. I've had one speed and that's full steam ahead,
Speaker 5: and I don't want to get to the stage beyond
Speaker 5: this where I can't go full steam ahead and then
Speaker 5: someone taps me on the shoulder and says, oh, fella,
Speaker 5: it's time for you to go out the past yere.
Speaker 5: So I've gone out having one hundred and sixty surveys
Speaker 5: and hopefully it won sixty one next Thursday. I'm comfortable
Speaker 5: with it. No one's tapped me on the shoulder. I
Speaker 5: basically nego shaded my way out of a contract for
Speaker 5: two years, and there's noncompete clauses in that, which is
Speaker 5: obvious because I can't go and work somewhere else on radio,
Speaker 5: and I wouldn't want it because two GB's been myham
Speaker 5: for twenty four years. But I've gone out on my terms,
Speaker 5: and my terms are that I've worked at a great place.
Speaker 2: It's still a great place.
Speaker 5: There are great broadcasters there, There are great people running
Speaker 5: the place, and I wish them the very best of luck.
Speaker 2: But they're going to be doing it without me in
Speaker 2: the future, which they understand.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what's next. I can't wait
Speaker 1: for you to come and have a chat to us
Speaker 1: at any point you'd like to, we'll send a camera
Speaker 1: to you wherever you happen to be. But congratulations, mate,
Speaker 1: what a phenomenal radio career. Hall of fame man, can
Speaker 1: you believe it? Congratulations, Thank you to everything you've done
Speaker 1: for me privately, professionally, personally as well. Mate. I love
Speaker 1: your congratulations.
Speaker 5: Well, I love you, and I'll give you a go play
Speaker 5: the guarantee. Whatever I do, I'll always be available to
Speaker 5: talk on this program because it, of course sets the
Speaker 5: agenda in many areas. And I love the fact that
Speaker 5: you're a bit mad, and that's one of your more
Speaker 5: dearing qualities. You've always been a bit mad. In fact
Speaker 5: that they're in stage is Paul, You've been the only
Speaker 5: one in the media madder than me, which really is
Speaker 5: I'm really appreciative.
Speaker 1: There's about eight cut snakes running around in this brain each.
Speaker 2: And every day. Take came good on you, mate, Thanks
Speaker 2: very mate.
Speaker 1: Congratulations.
Speaker 12: Right.
Speaker 1: The great Megan Kelly joins us right after the break.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, she is on fire. She's going to
Speaker 1: give it to the media. She's going to give it
Speaker 1: to Kamala. You're gonna love every second of these don't
Speaker 1: go anyway. It's the lady that we had been talking
Speaker 1: to for years now in anticipation of this election result,
Speaker 1: our wonderful friend, Megan Kelly, Megan, can you believe it? It happened?
Speaker 4: I know, God bless him, God did bless him. Paul.
Speaker 3: I mean, there are a lot of people here who
Speaker 3: really feel like it was divine right order that he
Speaker 3: was saved at the Butler rally because he had something
Speaker 3: important to do, and that everything since then has been
Speaker 3: Trump fulfilling his destiny to retake this very important role
Speaker 3: and change the world, starting with our country.
Speaker 4: There's so much he can do on day one.
Speaker 3: It's actual like he will be saving lives on day
Speaker 3: one of his presidency just by shoring up the border
Speaker 3: with a stroke of his pen. Joe Biden undid it
Speaker 3: with a stroke of his and Trump can reassure us
Speaker 3: of our safety all along the side than border on
Speaker 3: day one of his presidency.
Speaker 4: It was his main issue that he ran on.
Speaker 3: I have zero doubt that he will do it, and
Speaker 3: for that reason today I am celebrating. I think literally
Speaker 3: this was a life saving election. Donald Trump was made
Speaker 3: for this fight, and now he will fulfill his ultimate
Speaker 3: destiny in these next four years, and then hopefully be
Speaker 3: able to somehow ride off into this suset and enjoy
Speaker 3: a relaxing retirement, even though that doesn't sound like Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Now, I want to go back a couple of days
Speaker 1: before the election, because you were at a rally and
Speaker 1: you gave a phenomenal speech. I want people to be
Speaker 1: able to say a little bit of it. First.
Speaker 3: I really enjoy this feeling of proving Mark Cuban wrong.
Speaker 13: And so here I am at a Trump rally, a strong,
Speaker 13: intelligent woman to prove Mark Cuban wrong again.
Speaker 1: Now, forget RFKJ, forget the MSJ. That's the moment where
Speaker 1: he won this election. You did it.
Speaker 3: Definitely not no Trump got himself there. But I'll tell
Speaker 3: you I was happy to do it, Paul, because you
Speaker 3: know it was like I've been so distressed over the
Speaker 3: gas lighting of the American people and of American women,
Speaker 3: the core issues that I know we care about. I mean,
Speaker 3: the Democrats define us entirely by our wounds and our
Speaker 3: ability to kill our onborn children. That is all they
Speaker 3: think we care about. And I am a woman, I'm
Speaker 3: a mom, I'm a wife, and I know that my
Speaker 3: own set of desires and hopes and my concerns for
Speaker 3: the world revolve around far more than the right to
Speaker 3: get an abortion if I or someone I know once one.
Speaker 4: So it was burning, It was burning me.
Speaker 3: I wanted to go out there and say what I
Speaker 3: know all of my friends actually care about what I
Speaker 3: actually care about, and it's not entirely defined at all
Speaker 3: by abortion rights, which, by the ways we've discussed, is
Speaker 3: a state's right issue. It is not a federal issue.
Speaker 3: That's all been one big headfake. So it was cathartic
Speaker 3: to stand up there and talk about the actual issues
Speaker 3: that are affecting women outside of that one, which has
Speaker 3: already been adjudicated, and to the extent it hasn't been.
Speaker 3: It's a matter of state and local elections, not the
Speaker 3: federal one. There are a lot of things the US
Speaker 3: president can do to keep women safe. Anything revolving around
Speaker 3: abortion is not on the list. He doesn't have the power,
Speaker 3: and I'm sure the left is very happy to admit
Speaker 3: that now that Donald Trump has actually won, I.
Speaker 1: Reckon one of the most fascinating things about the election
Speaker 1: is that in deep red parts that voted for Trump
Speaker 1: by ten twenty points. They also voted to legalize and
Speaker 1: protect abortion. Isn't that the whole idea of this country
Speaker 1: that states have different laws, different systems, but they can
Speaker 1: also wal can't you come at the same.
Speaker 3: Time, absolutely right, same way. You go to certain states
Speaker 3: in the Union, and you'll see guys carrying very large
Speaker 3: guns that are air fifteen's because it's open carry and
Speaker 3: they're allowed to just walk around having the guns. That
Speaker 3: can be very jarring to people visiting from other countries
Speaker 3: or blue blue states like New York, where you would
Speaker 3: never see that. That's fine, it's cultural. Each state has
Speaker 3: its own particular culture and personality.
Speaker 4: And value set. And we knew that two.
Speaker 3: Hundred and fifty years ago when the country was coming together,
Speaker 3: and it was a source of negotiations saying we don't want.
Speaker 4: To be homogeneous.
Speaker 3: We want to be one union that works together on
Speaker 3: some common goals, but.
Speaker 4: No one wants to give up their.
Speaker 3: Individual personalities or value sets. Only in today's regime are
Speaker 3: we now suddenly told we must everyone must feel as
Speaker 3: the Democrats do when it comes to the abortion issue.
Speaker 3: So now we are settling back down into what used
Speaker 3: to be stasis, where each state is allowed to be
Speaker 3: its own independent laboratory on laws and values and so on,
Speaker 3: as long as they do conflict with the ultimate laws,
Speaker 3: which are our Constitution and the Supreme Court set and
Speaker 3: dabbs that's not regulated by the Constitution. States do your thing.
Speaker 3: So now we're back where we ought to be. Second point.
Speaker 3: All the past six months or more a year, the
Speaker 3: Democrats have been talking about how Kamala needs to be
Speaker 3: president because she needs to at the federal level write
Speaker 3: a national abortion law. Congress writes it and she'll sign it,
Speaker 3: restoring the row regime in all fifty states, and all along,
Speaker 3: I have been saying, this is such a head fake,
Speaker 3: it's nonsense, because Congress doesn't have that power. Congress can
Speaker 3: only legislate certain things if it has the power written
Speaker 3: into it by the Constitution, like the commerce clause or
Speaker 3: the taxing power. If it doesn't fall within one of
Speaker 3: enumerated powers, it can't regulate it, and that includes abortion.
Speaker 3: It doesn't have the power to regulate abortion at the
Speaker 3: national level. It's tried in the past. Some of those
Speaker 3: laws stood because they weren't challenged, arguing Congress didn't have
Speaker 3: the power to do it. But trust me, if if
Speaker 3: Trump ever tried to sign an abortion band, it would
Speaker 3: be and the Supreme Court would say he doesn't have
Speaker 3: to do it. My point is simply she was running
Speaker 3: around saying we should do it, we should legislate it,
Speaker 3: and we should get rid of minority rates in the
Speaker 3: Senate with a filibuster. Get rid of the filibuster so
Speaker 3: that there's no more minority rights. We can get lost
Speaker 3: through with only fifty one votes instead of the necessary
Speaker 3: sixty on things like this. And now that she's lost,
Speaker 3: will she admit that that was a terrible idea? Now
Speaker 3: that she's in the minority in the Senate her party,
Speaker 3: you think they're going to maintain that same position that
Speaker 3: it can be regulated on a national level, that the
Speaker 3: good idea is to get rid of minority rates in
Speaker 3: the Senate, to jam this down the throats of the
Speaker 3: American people, writ large.
Speaker 4: Will you watch the one to eighty. It's going to.
Speaker 2: Go like that now.
Speaker 1: I O. Harris of course officially conceded just a few
Speaker 1: hours ago. But I think the true insight into her
Speaker 1: character was that, despite being the fighter and the person
Speaker 1: who was there for joy on election night, she left
Speaker 1: the tens of thousands of people who had desperately hoped
Speaker 1: they were going to watch some history who had broken hearts.
Speaker 1: But she just lift them by the side of the road.
Speaker 3: She didn't even have the stones to go out there
Speaker 3: and face the people who supposedly love her and say.
Speaker 4: We're going to wait until tomorrow.
Speaker 3: There's still more accounting to be done, and out of
Speaker 3: respect for the voters in those states, I'm going to
Speaker 3: hold off on my message. But I love you, I
Speaker 3: thank you for your tireless work on my behalf and
Speaker 3: to be continued. It would not have taken anything more
Speaker 3: than that. But this woman, this I'm speaking, I'm speaking
Speaker 3: empowered woman sent a male staffer out there nobody even
Speaker 3: knew to tell them she wasn't coming. She was cowering
Speaker 3: in the back, just like Kamala's been doing. She's been
Speaker 3: cowering and she's been cackling. And what she hasn't been
Speaker 3: doing is actually standing up and fighting for America's working class.
Speaker 3: And last night they had the final say on her,
Speaker 3: saying we're done. We don't believe in you anymore, Black, white, Hispanic.
Speaker 3: It was the working class that put Trump over the top,
Speaker 3: because he does speak to them, and he speaks for them,
Speaker 3: and Kamala Harris eventually spoke today and hopefully now we'll
Speaker 3: be leaving the national stage very soon.
Speaker 1: I love Meghan, we love talking to her. Show of
Speaker 1: course on YouTube, and more highlights of our conversation is
Speaker 1: on YouTube. And by the way, can you believe that
Speaker 1: our editorial from last night more than five million people
Speaker 1: around the world have watched it and counting after the
Speaker 1: break A man who knows how Trump works, about how
Speaker 1: Trump puts together a government and what happens to the
Speaker 1: Democrats from here, they are scratching their eyes out, and
Speaker 1: I loved it. After this extraordinary week, in this extraordinary time,
Speaker 1: in this extraordinary place, I'm so pleased that I've got
Speaker 1: a little time here to talk to Mick Mulvaaney, of course,
Speaker 1: the former chief of staff to Donald Trump. And we
Speaker 1: should never take for granted our proximity to mix and
Speaker 1: mix institutional knowledge, and we appreciate it, We appreciate the insight,
Speaker 1: and for little old Australia, it means an awful lot
Speaker 1: to have the insight that you've given us. So I
Speaker 1: want to ask a couple of questions obviously about Trump
Speaker 1: and the administration all the rest of it, but I
Speaker 1: also just want to talk about what it's like to
Speaker 1: come into office now. Obviously there's a run up between
Speaker 1: now and January. But then there's the moment when after
Speaker 1: midday you walk into the office and you are running
Speaker 1: the government. How does the president, even one who's been
Speaker 1: there before, manage the moment from theoretically running the country
Speaker 1: to actually running them.
Speaker 12: So it's a fascinating question from a historical perspective, because
Speaker 12: Donald Trump is getting ready, is doing something today that
Speaker 12: no living human being has ever done, which is a
Speaker 12: former president being again, which might make him the only
Speaker 12: person ever truly qualified for the job. Because the only
Speaker 12: way you can learn how to be president is to
Speaker 12: be the president.
Speaker 11: The job has started already. The job started.
Speaker 12: The I lose track of the day as it happens
Speaker 12: this week, But Wednesday morning, the next administration started, and
Speaker 12: there are people already working sixteen hours a day. There's
Speaker 12: buildings throughout this entire city now filling up with people
Speaker 12: working on the transition to new government.
Speaker 1: I'm not making that up.
Speaker 12: You could drive down the street here and there's a
Speaker 12: building right down there that is about six floors of
Speaker 12: now Trump transition staff working on hiring four thousand people
Speaker 12: to help the next administration run the government.
Speaker 11: So it is a full time job from day one.
Speaker 12: Yes, the inauguration doesn't happen until January twentieth, but the
Speaker 12: next administration has actually started already.
Speaker 1: And the reason I asked that question is because people
Speaker 1: are going to say stories about or Trump trying to
Speaker 1: be a shadow president while Biden's the real president. This
Speaker 1: is what they all do, right talking to World Ladist,
Speaker 1: they are all basically letting the existing president have the
Speaker 1: power to be able to respond to a national security emergency.
Speaker 1: But effectively, if you're a CEO or a prime minister
Speaker 1: or a president of somewhere else, you're taken to the
Speaker 1: new goutte up the older you are.
Speaker 12: And I think it's a uniquely American thing, at least
Speaker 12: with most of the Western style democracies. I think you
Speaker 12: do it the same way the Brits do, which is
Speaker 12: in the day after the election, your prime minister changes.
Speaker 12: This overlap period we call it the lame duck, is
Speaker 12: a truly I think it's a unique American creation.
Speaker 11: It's fascinating to watch.
Speaker 12: By the way, in addition to what you've just described,
Speaker 12: which is sort of having two presidents at the same time,
Speaker 12: not officially obviously, but it's sort of a de facto
Speaker 12: dual presidency.
Speaker 11: The building behind us is coming back next week.
Speaker 12: Yes, and all of the folks who just lost their
Speaker 12: jobs there weren't many of them, but they still have
Speaker 12: a job voting until January twenty.
Speaker 11: So the old Congress will come back.
Speaker 12: Next week in this building. They'll be voting on things of.
Speaker 1: Gravity.
Speaker 11: They'll be voting on funding the government.
Speaker 12: Lot of giant legislative proposals will be dealt with between
Speaker 12: now and January. So you're a new member of Congress
Speaker 12: and you can't even get in the building yet. I've
Speaker 12: been in that shoe as well, so that this overlap
Speaker 12: period is fascinating to see. It's a good time I
Speaker 12: think for foreign governments to reach out to the Trump
Speaker 12: team now again, they don't really have to do that
Speaker 12: as much this time because they know Trump. I mean
Speaker 12: alber Easy doesn't because he wasn't Prime Minister when Trump
Speaker 12: was was was president the first time. But there's the
Speaker 12: institutional knowledge is there. The government organizations in Australia know
Speaker 12: the government organizations here and they transition I think between
Speaker 12: the two is going to be very simple.
Speaker 1: Let's get to the brass text that the existing Prime
Speaker 1: minister said that Trump scared the ass out of him. Yes,
Speaker 1: the ambassador has previously said pretty nasty things and literally
Speaker 1: today has deleted tweets that were critical of that always works.
Speaker 1: So how does Trump view Australia if those are the
Speaker 1: faces of our country?
Speaker 12: I get this question a lot, and people are always
Speaker 12: stunned by my answer the same way you and I would.
Speaker 12: I mean, if I was doing this interview and I
Speaker 12: walking up the steps and I've seen that, Oh, Paul
Speaker 12: just tweeted out that I was a complete so and
Speaker 12: so and so and so.
Speaker 11: Do you think it might impact this dynamic diress?
Speaker 1: It would?
Speaker 11: Now that's that's That's one side of the argument.
Speaker 12: The other argument is is like, as long as we've
Speaker 12: got a decent relationship, like.
Speaker 11: I said, Paul, what the hell is this exactly?
Speaker 1: And you can work through it.
Speaker 11: I think that's that's how I describe it to people.
Speaker 11: Is it going to be an issue?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 11: When is it not going to be an issue when
Speaker 11: it gets fixed? Because that's what people do.
Speaker 12: Nothing makes you a different kind of human being when
Speaker 12: you win an election, and that includes the election for president.
Speaker 12: So Donald Trump sitting in his office right now in
Speaker 12: New York. I guess he's in Marlago. Is a person
Speaker 12: and he's going to wonder why alber Easy said these
Speaker 12: things about him. He probably knows why, but he's going
Speaker 12: to say, Okay, how do we work through this? Now
Speaker 12: it's going to be in alban Ezi's court to start.
Speaker 12: It's not like Donald Trump is going to call him
Speaker 12: and say, Albanezi, we'd like to apologize.
Speaker 11: So I'm a little surprised.
Speaker 12: As someone who does follow us Australian relations very closely.
Speaker 12: I'm still good friends with Joe Hockey, as you know,
Speaker 12: I'm a little disappointed that Albaneze hasn't reached out yet.
Speaker 12: If I was advising him, if I was in his government.
Speaker 11: I said, look, pick up the phone.
Speaker 1: He's going to call.
Speaker 12: You can't be to the point where we just hope
Speaker 12: it's going to go away without doing anything.
Speaker 11: Well.
Speaker 1: And also we're sort of saying now again some of
Speaker 1: the side reporting that you know, they're taking note of
Speaker 1: who's ringing versus who was expecial run and guess what,
Speaker 1: when you've won, don't expect to call you're ringing him? Right,
Speaker 1: That's the way it works. All, I've got just a
Speaker 1: couple of seconds left. Literally, what are you most hopeful
Speaker 1: about about that first hundred.
Speaker 11: Days that they hit the ground running.
Speaker 12: The biggest impediment to the first term was that there
Speaker 12: was a learning curve because Trump didn't expect to win.
Speaker 12: He hadn't done the work necessary during this lame duck period,
Speaker 12: in fact, before the election in twenty sixteen. I'm excited
Speaker 12: to see what happens once he's got a team in
Speaker 12: place that's ready to go today and then again on
Speaker 12: January twenty.
Speaker 1: Good stuff. Thank you, mix really appreciate it. Look forward
Speaker 1: to talking to you in the future. This has been
Speaker 1: an extraordinary week. This has been a real personal highlight,
Speaker 1: rational highlight as well. We have seen history. It has
Speaker 1: been a joy to share it with you. It is
Speaker 1: the privilege of a lifetime to watch this history happen
Speaker 1: before I very ownized the forty fifth president has returned
Speaker 1: as the forty seventh president of the United States.
Speaker 14: We made history for a reason tonight, and the reason
Speaker 14: is going to be just that we overcame obstacles that
Speaker 14: nobody thought possible, and it's now clear that we've achieved
Speaker 14: the most incredible political there Look what happened.
Speaker 1: This is crazy.
Speaker 14: I want to thank the American people for the extraordinary
Speaker 14: honor of being elected your forty seventh president.
Speaker 11: And you're forty fifth president.
Speaker 14: This is a magnificent victory for the American people that
Speaker 14: will allowow us to maybe America green again.
Speaker 1: Extraordinary, isn't it? It really is. Again, Thank you to
Speaker 1: everyone who has been watching, and thank you to all
Speaker 1: the people that have helped put it together, the teams
Speaker 1: that have worked with us here and at home. It's
Speaker 1: been full on, but it has been amazing. Again. Just
Speaker 1: think about think about where we were in July when
Speaker 1: there was a chance that this much difference was the
Speaker 1: difference between life and death. Think about now where we
Speaker 1: are in November, where he's about to become the leader
Speaker 1: of the free world again. It is an extraordinary story
Speaker 1: and we've got to see it. You saw it in
Speaker 1: real time. We will remember it for the rest of
Speaker 1: our lives. Thank you for the privilege of your company.
Speaker 1: I'm off to Vegas see in a few days.