WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 7 November

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<v Speaker 1>From the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Paul Murray, Live Gooday.

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<v Speaker 1>Australia, and welcome to Washington. As the impact of the

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<v Speaker 1>US election is being felt not just here in the

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<v Speaker 1>capital of the Democracy, but around the world. Our final

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<v Speaker 1>show from Washington is going to be one full of

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<v Speaker 1>all stars. We have got the best lineup you will

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<v Speaker 1>see all day and it begins with our dear friend

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<v Speaker 1>Meghan Kelly. Meghan Kelly, of course, wasn't just somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>talked about Donald Trump, but as you know, she ended

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<v Speaker 1>up standing with Donald Trump. I think what she had

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<v Speaker 1>to say was critical in being able to give a

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<v Speaker 1>whole collection of people the final permission to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to vote for him. Meghan Kelly with the inside story

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<v Speaker 1>of her role in the Trump victory in moments from now.

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<v Speaker 1>Mick mulvaney will join us as well. Now, now you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen Nick a lot on the channel over the past

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<v Speaker 1>few days. What is fascinating about the chat that we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have is how do you put together a government?

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<v Speaker 1>How will Trump put together a government? How does Trump

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<v Speaker 1>two point zero make decisions that are different than Trump

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<v Speaker 1>one point Oh. There's also an awful lot of detail

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<v Speaker 1>that I want to get to this morning about how

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats, to quote one organization, are scratching their eyes out.

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<v Speaker 1>Now away from all of this, a dear friend, mentor

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<v Speaker 1>and a hero of mine has made a very big

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<v Speaker 1>decision today. He's made it public, and that is that

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<v Speaker 1>the great broadcaster Ray Hadley is stepping away from two GB.

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<v Speaker 1>He has had an incredible career, a Hall of Fame career.

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<v Speaker 1>We will discuss it and his decision to step away

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<v Speaker 1>from the day to day of an incredible grind but

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<v Speaker 1>also an incredible career at Ray Hadley in a moment

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<v Speaker 1>or two's time. But let's deal with everything that is

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<v Speaker 1>happening in the United States today now. Obviously, when we're

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<v Speaker 1>not on television, we're trying to talk to as many

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<v Speaker 1>people as possible to get a bit of an idea

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<v Speaker 1>about what is going on. And the days in Washington

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<v Speaker 1>are absolutely spectacular. The mornings were a little bit cold,

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<v Speaker 1>but this was an image that we were lucky enough

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to capture, which I think is going

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<v Speaker 1>to become an iconic image. The day after Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>wins the presidency, somebody with the giant flag the Maga

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<v Speaker 1>hat makes their way down to the White House. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the equivalent of the undernew Management sign being hung

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<v Speaker 1>at the White House. Have a look at that as

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<v Speaker 1>people of many places come to celebrate the result that,

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<v Speaker 1>of course they took such a massive role in. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned Meghan Kelly as well, and I've got to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to play you the way that she started

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<v Speaker 1>her show today in the United States. Now, of course

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<v Speaker 1>we love her, but she is such a consummate professional

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<v Speaker 1>and a brilliant broadcaster. And she's somebody who called bs

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<v Speaker 1>on Kamala Harris years ago and has this for middle stump.

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<v Speaker 1>She used the words of Harris to describe the joy

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<v Speaker 1>of Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>The dreams, the ambitions, the aspirations that were unburdened by

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<v Speaker 3>what has been when Americans decided to turn the page

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<v Speaker 3>on the Democrats and say we are not going back,

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<v Speaker 3>and say hard work is good work.

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<v Speaker 1>She even used the actual footage of Kamala Harris's Joy

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<v Speaker 1>to explain the feeling in trump Land, which is otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>known as the USI right now, but joy.

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<v Speaker 4>Cometh in the morning.

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<v Speaker 5>The path may seem hard, the work may seem heavy,

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<v Speaker 5>but joy cometh in the morning, and just morning is

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<v Speaker 5>on its way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, preach sister Joy does come with in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's morning here in America, and we will continue

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to Megan about the joy that she and

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<v Speaker 1>many other people are feeling. Now, let's get to what

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<v Speaker 1>I think the story of the day is. And after

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<v Speaker 1>playing nice on election night, after slowly going to their corners,

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<v Speaker 1>licking their wounds, and Kamala Harris finally conceding this election,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden will speak from the White House today. Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden will of course not answer any questions from the

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<v Speaker 1>White House today, and he will talk about the importance

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<v Speaker 1>of a peaceful transfer of power. It is a difference between,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, what happened four years ago and what is

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<v Speaker 1>about to happen in January. But the real story is

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<v Speaker 1>one that will not play out in front of the cameras. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let me explain what we're about to see now. When

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<v Speaker 1>you lose, it's everyone else's fault. When you win, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I was one hundred percent responsible. So you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>take big grains of salt with all of this. But

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<v Speaker 1>you need to understand the tension that was always in

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<v Speaker 1>and around firstly the Biden campaign that then became the

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<v Speaker 1>Harris campaign, and it connects back to the Obama campaign. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously Joe Biden hates Barack Obama because Barack Obama and

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy Pelosi got together and started to use all of

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<v Speaker 1>the tricks of the trade and all of the tools

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<v Speaker 1>that they had to push Biden out of the election. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>whether that was exposing him to a debate which had

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<v Speaker 1>never happened before in a modern presidential campaign, remember that

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<v Speaker 1>happened in June, which exposed how weak he had become,

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<v Speaker 1>which produced a whole collection of pressure That meant he

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<v Speaker 1>was eventually confronted and pretty obviously behind the scene. As

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<v Speaker 1>you can imagine, he was offered one of two options.

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<v Speaker 1>If you go now, we'll treat you like a hero,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll name buildings after you. But if you don't go,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to blast you out. And that means everything

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<v Speaker 1>from the twenty fifth Amendment to let's start to have

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<v Speaker 1>a look maybe inside Hunter's laptop. So of course he

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<v Speaker 1>goes Harris. Then in twenty four hours is able to

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<v Speaker 1>seal the deal because clearly she's been working behind the

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<v Speaker 1>scenes for the many weeks seeing what's coming, to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that everyone else is out of the way. But

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<v Speaker 1>because the election was so close, and because Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 1>has pretended to be side by side with Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>the entire time, I am a continuation of what he

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<v Speaker 1>is doing, but I'm really a brand new broom. She

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<v Speaker 1>kept all of his campaign machine in place. Literally, her

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<v Speaker 1>campaign was not run from Washington, it was not run

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<v Speaker 1>from California. It was not wrong from Chicago. It was

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<v Speaker 1>run from Wilmington, Delaware. It was Joe Biden's team that

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<v Speaker 1>was still making the calls about how the Harris campaign

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<v Speaker 1>was run. However, there was a little cherry on top,

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<v Speaker 1>which was the price of the nomination, which was that

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<v Speaker 1>for Barack Obama to help put it in her hands,

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<v Speaker 1>she had to take on his former campaign chief. So

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<v Speaker 1>you have the Biden machine being told what to do

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<v Speaker 1>by the Obama team. Inevitably that's going to lead to fights. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>of course there's the Harris team who were saying, well, great, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not about you, it's about us. But of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the last time the Harris team ran for president, she

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't even able to get past the first round. Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>she dropped out before the primary took place, and Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden became the nominee. In twenty twenty. So with all

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<v Speaker 1>of that swirling around, with all that palace intrigue, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to show you a story which has just dropped

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<v Speaker 1>on a website called Politico. Now Politico is a very

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<v Speaker 1>inside baseball, inside politics. It's literally media about the bubble

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<v Speaker 1>for the bubble, read by the inner bubble. Okay, here

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<v Speaker 1>is how they are starting to point fingers at each other. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>as you can see, team Biden versus team Harris, who

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<v Speaker 1>lost twenty twenty four. The Biden sympathizers want to pin

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<v Speaker 1>her loss on well her. The Harris defenders believe Biden's

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<v Speaker 1>undeniably at fault for creating a forbidding political environment. She

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<v Speaker 1>proved unable to overcome. The early hours recriminations only highlight

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<v Speaker 1>the denialism of both factions in the wake of what

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<v Speaker 1>will be the first GOP popular vote in two decades.

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<v Speaker 1>This failure has many fathers. The article continues and we

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<v Speaker 1>start to get into some stories now about what was

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<v Speaker 1>really going on behind the Joy and Love campaign. Given

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<v Speaker 1>the scale of difficulty that she faced and yes, how

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<v Speaker 1>bad the initial internal polling was. She was being advised

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<v Speaker 1>by people who helped her through her political career in

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<v Speaker 1>California to start taking some risks. Yet since she first

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<v Speaker 1>was elected, Harris has been cautious to a fault, and

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<v Speaker 1>here was once again at a moment that demanded risk.

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<v Speaker 1>She may well have done the best that she could,

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<v Speaker 1>as one person close to her told the reporter who

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<v Speaker 1>wrote this story yesterday that there was no example of

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<v Speaker 1>her actually confronting Biden on immigration or the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 1>So it put simply if she turned around and started

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<v Speaker 1>to say, well, Joe was wrong here and Joe was

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<v Speaker 1>wrong there, the problem was she was in lockstep the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time. Why because she knew that her run at

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<v Speaker 1>the presidency was going to come four years later if

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden had been re elected, or her run of

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<v Speaker 1>the presidency would come four years later if Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>had been defeated. No plan for her to be running now.

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<v Speaker 1>But then the daylight started to open and she ran

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<v Speaker 1>through it with the help of, among others, Barack Obama.

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<v Speaker 1>Now fascinating to notice here too, this is how it ends.

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats don't just have a Harris or Biden problem. Their

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<v Speaker 1>challenge is far deeper. They have a voter problem. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is the story, right, We're past all the fakery,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're now going to start to see the lie

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<v Speaker 1>that was put before the American people in a desperate

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<v Speaker 1>hope that they would be able to win this election. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of some of the reaction to it, it

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<v Speaker 1>will not surprise you that the lefty media is not

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<v Speaker 1>taking this well. Now. Don't forget. They don't like the result,

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<v Speaker 1>but they also don't like that they have now lost

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<v Speaker 1>control over the American people to tell them what is

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<v Speaker 1>what the priorities of what they should think before they vote.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's some of the media meltdown that's been playing over

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<v Speaker 1>the airwaves and online in the past day.

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<v Speaker 4>There are levels of sexism and racism that clearly a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people in this country are willing to tolerate.

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<v Speaker 6>I can't help but wonder if the American people have

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<v Speaker 6>given up on democracy.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, let's be absolutely blunt about it. There were appeals

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<v Speaker 7>to racism in this campaign, and there is racial bias

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<v Speaker 7>in this country, and there is sexism in this country.

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<v Speaker 7>And anybody who thinks that that did not in any

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<v Speaker 7>way impact on the outcome of this race is wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>Black voters came through for Kamala Harris. White women voters did.

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<v Speaker 8>Not Donald Trump has been impeached twice, he was indicted

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<v Speaker 8>four times, convicted on thirty four felon accounts. He's been

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<v Speaker 8>found liable of sexual abuse. His campaign spewed a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of racism, misogynies, you knowphobia, but voters seem to overlook

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<v Speaker 8>all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the country we live in. People at this

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<v Speaker 1>point want a strong man who's a bully, and they

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<v Speaker 1>got a strong man who's a bully.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, I think we need to start saying out

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<v Speaker 9>loud that you know what is different between Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 9>and Kamala Harris. Everybody thinks they're exactly the same on policies,

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<v Speaker 9>but one is a woman of color and the other

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<v Speaker 9>is a white man that everybody was really comfortable with

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<v Speaker 9>that were moderates and knew him well and had known

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<v Speaker 9>him for decades.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, of course, the truth is that they could be

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<v Speaker 1>blaming and pointing and winging and all the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember these were the people who pretended nothing to see him.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to Joe Biden, who was melting before

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<v Speaker 1>our very eyes, was all cheap fakes, deep fakes. And

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<v Speaker 1>remember it was like day forty nine of his presidency

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and one when I showed you the

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<v Speaker 1>video of him falling up the stairs, that was the

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<v Speaker 1>first sign of that decline. And of course all the

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<v Speaker 1>polites media wouldn't dare get involved in that conversation. But

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<v Speaker 1>please spare a thought for the ladies of the view.

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<v Speaker 1>They had one heck of a struggle session on air today.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it their team lost, but what about this

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<v Speaker 1>for Denile.

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<v Speaker 3>It would help if we could regulate social media because

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<v Speaker 3>one of the biggest defenders is DC and Congress have

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<v Speaker 3>not been able to do one thing in regard to

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<v Speaker 3>the role corporations.

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<v Speaker 1>I got journey about it.

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<v Speaker 4>As a woman of color.

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<v Speaker 6>I was so hopeful that a mixed race woman married

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<v Speaker 6>to a Jewish guy could be elected president of this country.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think that it had nothing to do with policy.

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<v Speaker 6>I think this was a referendum of cultural resentment in

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<v Speaker 6>this country.

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<v Speaker 4>He's now the president. I'm still not gonna say his name.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, good luck to you. Right these people can live

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<v Speaker 1>in their own bubble, their own bubble of denial. They

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<v Speaker 1>can turn around and say that they know better than

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else. Here's the deal, right now, if you have

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<v Speaker 1>an opinion show, you're allowed to have a strong opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you think that your opinion is the only

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<v Speaker 1>opinion right, and I say that as the person with

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<v Speaker 1>the opinion on the television, then you have lost all

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<v Speaker 1>touch with reality. Okay. You need to always keep your

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<v Speaker 1>head on a swivel to work out what the people

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<v Speaker 1>who you completely disagree with might actually be right about.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is part of what I think is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be one of the five things that we have

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<v Speaker 1>not just learned about this election, but the five things

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<v Speaker 1>that you need to think about when you think about

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<v Speaker 1>American politics going forward. All right, now, I love this

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<v Speaker 1>as a sort of a side hustle to our focus

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<v Speaker 1>on Australia, But let me talk now about these five things, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think this is important to have a look

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<v Speaker 1>at about where we go to in the future. Now, first,

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<v Speaker 1>poles don't matter anymore, Okay, we all know that they

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<v Speaker 1>can be fiddled with, and I don't mean fiddled with

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<v Speaker 1>in some sort of way where they are manufacturing the answer.

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<v Speaker 1>What I think they're doing is they clearly are unable

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to a section of the country that does

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<v Speaker 1>not want to talk to them. So if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to know who's up and who's down for the next

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<v Speaker 1>four years until polls are proven right, and they won't

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<v Speaker 1>be follow the bookies. That poly market, in particular, it

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<v Speaker 1>was an excellent indicator of who was up and who

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<v Speaker 1>was down depending on any one day. I also say

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<v Speaker 1>that one of the five things you need to keep

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<v Speaker 1>an eye on for the next four years is that

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<v Speaker 1>the top down media is done in the United States. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>will they continue to exist, sure? Will they continue to

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<v Speaker 1>have fewer viewers, fewer readers, fewer listeners because they are

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<v Speaker 1>talking to a smaller and smaller and smaller circum Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that does not mean that facts don't matter, the

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<v Speaker 1>truth doesn't matter, that people should just read like North

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<v Speaker 1>Korean television talking points from the White House each and

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<v Speaker 1>every day. But the idea that unnamed sources have said

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<v Speaker 1>this and said that every and you never give the

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<v Speaker 1>benefit of the doubt to the person you disagree with politically,

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<v Speaker 1>well it's just not going to work anymore. You also

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<v Speaker 1>need to get back to a little bit of old school,

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<v Speaker 1>which is, hello, I'm the news reporter. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>happened today. He said this, she said that, he promised this,

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<v Speaker 1>she promised that, and stopped telling us what you think

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<v Speaker 1>of what he said today? Or what she did today

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<v Speaker 1>if they want to have any relevance back into the future,

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<v Speaker 1>but their moment in the sun has gone. The Internet

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<v Speaker 1>has won this election as the main source of information,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, it's really important. Second third thing, No one

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<v Speaker 1>cares about endorsements. It doesn't matter if it's a form president,

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't matter if it's Oprah Winfrey. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter if it's Taylor Swift. No one cares. Why because

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<v Speaker 1>none of these people are like the people who are

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<v Speaker 1>actually voting. These are essentially like people who live in

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<v Speaker 1>castles in Martha's Vineyard or California, and they walk out

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<v Speaker 1>onto the balcony to tell the people what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>We love when they sing, we love when they act,

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<v Speaker 1>we love when they dance, we love when they play football.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't care what their view is about how

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<v Speaker 1>the world should work. Also, political parties can no longer

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<v Speaker 1>do the Jedi mind trick thing. Okay, We've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this a lot, about when the Labour Party will turn

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<v Speaker 1>around in Australia and say the economy is amazing. Don't worry. No,

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<v Speaker 1>the economy is not amazing because the people who are

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<v Speaker 1>in it have less money and everything costs more. And finally,

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<v Speaker 1>beware the power of the forbidden. Anyone who's got toddlers, teenagers,

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<v Speaker 1>or remembers when you were young, when you were told

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<v Speaker 1>don't do this and don't do that, and that's bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what you want to do. If they have spent

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<v Speaker 1>years saying you put that red hat on, then you're

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<v Speaker 1>making a mistake. Guess what they do. They want to

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<v Speaker 1>do it, because, apart from anything else, it is a

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<v Speaker 1>giant middle finger to the person who is telling you

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<v Speaker 1>not to do it. Five things to pay attention to

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<v Speaker 1>in the next four years. As we head home at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of tonight's broadcast, and we turn our attention

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<v Speaker 1>to our own politics. As I say, we spent the

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<v Speaker 1>day walking around in Washington today in the shadows of

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<v Speaker 1>the White House, just to see how people felt the

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<v Speaker 1>morning after. And guess what they were cool, laurious day. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is it the glorious day you're feeling after the election?

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<v Speaker 4>I think not either way.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm okay with who was selected, whether it be Donald

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<v Speaker 6>Trump or whether it be Kamalaer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and guess what. The sun came up the next

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<v Speaker 1>day and it's a beautiful day alive. That's it and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got your family and you're on the scooters.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's what matters. It's in Gud's plans. If it's

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<v Speaker 4>Guard's plan, does Gus what's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it good that it was a blowout, nice and decisive,

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<v Speaker 1>no mucking around, no the Russians or no stolen ballots?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, without you know all that show and tell stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And it looks like a cleaner win.

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<v Speaker 8>It looks like a more efficient election than it did

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<v Speaker 8>a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 9>When I'll want to come together, that's the issue here.

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<v Speaker 9>So the problem is that we think that this person

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<v Speaker 9>has one, this person's lost.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's not about that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about coming together. Now. Let's let's get this.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's get a.

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<v Speaker 9>Country back to where it needs to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been here for a week and that's the nicest

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<v Speaker 1>thing I've heard since I've been here. Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a little older earlier and asked him if

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<v Speaker 3>I can hang out a banner on here, Welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Home, Matt Tony and lets you close to it. Ross

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<v Speaker 1>Greenwood has been following the events of this week from

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<v Speaker 1>New York. Ross. It is, of course the start of

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<v Speaker 1>a day where we reflect upon what might be ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be fascinating to watch the Democrats call each other's

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<v Speaker 1>eyes out. It'll be fascinating to watch who Trump's going

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<v Speaker 1>to start to put into his into his cabinet. But

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<v Speaker 1>if the stock market was the next version of the

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<v Speaker 1>betting markets, they like the result.

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<v Speaker 10>They did, and really the stock market took off. But

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<v Speaker 10>have a look at the bitcoin price. That was the

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<v Speaker 10>thing that I watched.

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<v Speaker 11>Now.

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<v Speaker 10>Of course Trump has always been a big supporter of cryptocurrency,

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<v Speaker 10>so as Elon Musk has backed him, and as the

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<v Speaker 10>big winner of the day, no doubt He's wealth went

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<v Speaker 10>up fifteen point four billion dollars because Tesla sharsburn. But

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<v Speaker 10>bitcoin went through seventy six thousand dollars US for the

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<v Speaker 10>very first time, some suggesting it's on its way to

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<v Speaker 10>one hundred thousand. So in many ways, this is, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>the way in which people might have could argue gambled

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<v Speaker 10>on this election result. But it's also the way in

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<v Speaker 10>which people think that America will prosper under the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 10>And you're right about the people that he's now making

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<v Speaker 10>selections about who does he put in Secretary of Defense.

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<v Speaker 10>Mario Rubio potentially could come back. A guy got a

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<v Speaker 10>good story for you, And this is a guy called

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<v Speaker 10>John Paulson could be the new Treasury Secretary replacing Janet Yellam.

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<v Speaker 10>His background's kind of interesting. If you've ever seen that

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<v Speaker 10>amazing film about the collapse of Ball Street the global

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<v Speaker 10>financial crisis, the Big Short, well he was one of

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<v Speaker 10>those guys who was a part of the Big Short,

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<v Speaker 10>made three billion dollars in his hedge fund as a

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<v Speaker 10>result of it. Well, he could be the new man

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<v Speaker 10>with the real hands on the tiller of the America's

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<v Speaker 10>economy under the Trump administration. So it's just interesting to

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<v Speaker 10>see how Trump picks these people the way in which

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<v Speaker 10>they then respond to his agenda. But the one thing

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<v Speaker 10>is that no matter who was appointed, Trump will have

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<v Speaker 10>his hand right over the top of them, because.

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<v Speaker 1>This is his agenda.

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<v Speaker 10>This is his view of the way in which America's

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<v Speaker 10>economy can grow into the future and the way in

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<v Speaker 10>which he can bring manufacturing back into the United States.

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<v Speaker 10>Because that's what, as you point out, this was about

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<v Speaker 10>ordinary people saying, we do actually want the jobs here,

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<v Speaker 10>we do want to have the energy here, we do

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<v Speaker 10>want to have the security here. So these are the

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<v Speaker 10>things that people ultimately voted for in this election campaign,

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<v Speaker 10>which is the reason why he's also won the popular

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<v Speaker 10>vote in this campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and also, you know, don't forget and by that,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying to people paying attention because obviously Ross knows

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff sort of inside and out, and it's why

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<v Speaker 1>we love him, why you gotta watch your show each

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<v Speaker 1>and every each and every day. Which is Trump made

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<v Speaker 1>a promise during the campaign that if you're a company

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<v Speaker 1>who's currently making something overseas and you brought your business

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<v Speaker 1>back to America, you would pay a twelve percent company tax.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this is dramatically lower than even the lower company

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<v Speaker 1>taxes that he had promised. But can we get back

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<v Speaker 1>to bitcoin for a second, because for people that are

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<v Speaker 1>watching who have heard of bitcoin, it's obviously this alternative

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<v Speaker 1>currency in the same way that you know, we decided

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<v Speaker 1>paper had value or gold had value. So what role

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<v Speaker 1>would bitcoin if in the best case scenario for those

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<v Speaker 1>that want to back it in, what role would it

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<v Speaker 1>play in an economy? Would you be able to buy

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<v Speaker 1>a movie ticket with it? Would you be able to

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<v Speaker 1>buy a car with it? Would it become in the

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<v Speaker 1>same way you can and over fifty pieces of silver

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<v Speaker 1>you can hand over x you know, bits of coin.

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<v Speaker 10>Look, I've got a sense it doesn't even do that

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<v Speaker 10>in the future. I've got a sense that, Look, we

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<v Speaker 10>know the cash is disappearing anyway. It's all about your

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<v Speaker 10>card and your phone. That's the way people pay. And

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<v Speaker 10>that's a form of cryptocurrency if you like the way

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<v Speaker 10>in which it's used today. But the reality is it's

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<v Speaker 10>a store of value, just like gold is a store

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<v Speaker 10>of value. But he's a backer of bitcoin. So the

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<v Speaker 10>reality is that it's going to grow. But there's one

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<v Speaker 10>other little part about this is to be able to

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<v Speaker 10>create new bitcoins, new cryptocurrencies.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what you need.

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<v Speaker 10>You need big data banks. You need these giant data

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<v Speaker 10>centers to be able to create that. So you need energy.

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<v Speaker 10>Guess what sort of energy you need in the United

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<v Speaker 10>States and around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>You need nuclear energy.

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<v Speaker 10>Donald Trump will bring plenty of that back in because

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<v Speaker 10>this is about making America not just great but competitive.

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<v Speaker 10>Now you talked about that thirteen percent, twelve thirteen percent

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<v Speaker 10>tax rate for companies bringing businesses back on shore. We'll

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<v Speaker 10>guess what. That is much cheaper than the thirty percent

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<v Speaker 10>tax that Australian companies pay.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's the answer to that.

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<v Speaker 10>A whole bunch of companies that are multinationals will go.

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<v Speaker 10>Where are we going to make more money in Australia

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<v Speaker 10>where the labor laws are so much tougher, in Australia

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<v Speaker 10>where the actual laws on the environment are much tougher,

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<v Speaker 10>Or are we going to make.

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<v Speaker 1>That money in America?

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<v Speaker 10>It doesn't matter whether they're making bricks or whether they're

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<v Speaker 10>making steel, or whether they're trying to explore for gas.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, really the gas explorers in Australia that giant

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<v Speaker 10>gas companies don't get a look in in Canberra right now.

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<v Speaker 10>So guess what when they tune up in Mexico or

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<v Speaker 10>in the United States, they get treated, they get faded,

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<v Speaker 10>and they get welcomed for their investment. And that perhaps

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<v Speaker 10>is a lesson for Australia and its politics into the future.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent. The logic about a company paying less

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<v Speaker 1>tax is not about tax avoidance. It's about, as you say,

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<v Speaker 1>the money that they end up making is that they

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<v Speaker 1>end up making it via the employment that is created.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Ross, I really do appreciate it. Now. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>step away from the United States for a second. Meghan

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly in a moment of two times and I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a cracker of a chat. This is probably

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<v Speaker 1>the best one we've ever had. And you know how

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<v Speaker 1>much fun I have talking to her. Ray Hadley. Ray

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<v Speaker 1>Hadley is a Hall of fame broadcaster. Ray Hadley has

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<v Speaker 1>a voice that when I was dreaming of doing this

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<v Speaker 1>for a job, that I was listening to on the

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<v Speaker 1>car radio, on the clock radio. He's a man who

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<v Speaker 1>was able to live his dream of becoming a working

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<v Speaker 1>class kid, then becoming the horse racing caller, then the

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<v Speaker 1>rugby league caller, then the filly in host for John Laws,

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<v Speaker 1>and then a stunning host in his own right, where

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<v Speaker 1>his entire career at TUI and TGB is one where

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<v Speaker 1>he has won survey after survey after survey, an unbroken

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<v Speaker 1>run run for the best part of twenty years. I've

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<v Speaker 1>had the chance to talk to him about a big

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<v Speaker 1>decision today and that is to reflect upon his decision

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<v Speaker 1>to retire from the five day a week show at

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<v Speaker 1>two GB, and it was a privileged to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>him just moments.

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<v Speaker 5>Ago that when you make the the announcement that two

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<v Speaker 5>hours later and think, oh jeez, I shouldn't have said that.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to stay, but there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>forethought went into it, a lot of discussion with our CEO,

0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 5>Tom Maline about where I'd beheaded and what I wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to do. Two years left in the contract, so I

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<v Speaker 5>would obviously want to one or a contract. But I

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<v Speaker 5>explained to Tom in Paris during the Olympics and then

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<v Speaker 5>again more recently, that I thought I was running out

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<v Speaker 5>of steam, that the best time for me to go

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<v Speaker 5>would be now on December thirteen, because then he'd have

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<v Speaker 5>a chance to get someone to replace me out of

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<v Speaker 5>the Christmas break and they could start afresh with a

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<v Speaker 5>brand new survey in twenty twenty five. And I feel

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<v Speaker 5>really comfortable. I've had a very busy day, as you

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<v Speaker 5>would imagine. I promised my dear friend John Tap I

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<v Speaker 5>do his five hundred podcast, So Tappy and I started reminiscing.

0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:51.600
<v Speaker 5>The podcast was basically about forty minutes. We went, I

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<v Speaker 5>met an hour and seventeen. Apparently I don't know if

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<v Speaker 5>they'll all make it to the cutting room floor, but

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<v Speaker 5>so I've done that, and I've had a bit of

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<v Speaker 5>fun with a good old mate in John Tapp, and

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<v Speaker 5>then I'm here to be with another mate in you.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm happy to be here and happy to accept

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<v Speaker 5>your congratulations and accept the fact that I'm an Admira abuse.

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 5>You know, when I tell people today I was going

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<v Speaker 5>on your program, I get all these text messages from

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:16.359
<v Speaker 5>listeners on their Gold Coast saying, I can't wait to

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 5>see Paul.

0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:18.399
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to see you and Paul.

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<v Speaker 5>So to Margie and John on the Gold Coast, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>here as promised.

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<v Speaker 1>God love you, God love you and always. Certainly in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the people that are watching us and listening

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:33.880
<v Speaker 1>to you, there's quite a lot of crossover. So thank

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:36.679
<v Speaker 1>you to the people who have supported me, who have

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 1>supported you for such a long time. And let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>go back to the days where you dreamt of working

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<v Speaker 1>on the radio and to be told that you'd have

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<v Speaker 1>a Hall of Fame career. You'd never believe it at

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<v Speaker 1>the start. You'd go, jeez, I hope I get a crack.

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:52.359
<v Speaker 1>I hope I can do a year. I hope I

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<v Speaker 1>can do five. If you could go back and say

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<v Speaker 1>to the young kid who dreamt of doing it, what's

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<v Speaker 1>it like to have been able delivered dream a decade

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<v Speaker 1>after decade?

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<v Speaker 2>Surreal?

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:07.120
<v Speaker 5>I was an auctioneer, a young auctioneer for a pastoral

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:08.399
<v Speaker 5>company called pittsund and Battery.

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Wanted to be a race caller. That's all I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to be a race caller, so I chased

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<v Speaker 5>that dream in my early twenties.

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 2>In the end, the dream was almost a nightmare.

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<v Speaker 5>I turned a cab because I couldn't feed myself, and

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<v Speaker 5>then one day I got a job at Appen Dogs,

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<v Speaker 5>just southwest of Sydney, fifteen races every Saturday afternoon for

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<v Speaker 5>thirty seven dollars fifty. I had a job for three

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<v Speaker 5>hundred a week before that, so I lost about two

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:36.200
<v Speaker 5>hundred and seventy in the bargain. And then I kept

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<v Speaker 5>driving the cab and kept calling the dogs. I end

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<v Speaker 5>up doing Naura and Bully and Appen And then finally

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<v Speaker 5>I picked up a bloke called Mark Collier one night

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<v Speaker 5>on a Tuesday night from two Ui, Miller McLaren took

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:48.639
<v Speaker 5>him to North Ride and in the space of about

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:52.679
<v Speaker 5>a forty minute cab ride, I convinced him that he

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 5>should give me some sort of opportunity at two Yui.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember what he said to me, poor he said.

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<v Speaker 5>On the way there, he said are you at Yuni? No, mate,

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:02.880
<v Speaker 5>Now I'm a race caller. He said, you're a race

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:05.240
<v Speaker 5>caller driving a cab on Tuesday night. I take it

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 5>not a very good race caller, and it was hard

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 5>to argue with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>He gave me a job as a He gave me

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 5>a job as a traffic reporter, and I worked for

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 5>the great Garrio Callahan for a couple of years. Then

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:20.879
<v Speaker 5>I graduated a sport as an offsided there's Hoisted, a

0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 5>legendary race caller along with John Tap who's.

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Remained a mate ever since.

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 5>And then football at eighty seven, and the rest, as

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 5>you say, is history. Talk back at ninety two, and

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<v Speaker 5>then my own gig in two thousand and two, all

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 5>those years ago at two GB.

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<v Speaker 1>When you were announcing it today, a particular focus was

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<v Speaker 1>about how your life has changed, certainly specifically in the

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<v Speaker 1>last ten years, where you've got all these beautiful grandkids,

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 1>you've got this beautiful wife, and you've got a different

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:55.719
<v Speaker 1>life than where you were, and you could really tell

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 1>that you want to hang out with these people, you

0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 1>want to be able to give their all of you,

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 1>because you know to do what you do is a

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>twenty four to seven gig and what does it feel

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 1>like now to be turning to twenty four to seven

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>pop up?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's great.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to do something in twenty twenty five and

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 5>I are quite what yet, but I won't I won't

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 5>be on radio, but yeah, it's fantastic.

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Look you start at halt us three. I'm not winging.

0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 5>I got really well paid for staying at ut us three.

0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm not windy about it. And then you go flat

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 5>strap all day. You get the work at half pas

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<v Speaker 5>four and you knock off at twelve, and then my.

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Children say, what are you whining about?

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 5>You do fifteen hours a week and we have a

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 5>laugh about that, and then there are other things you

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 5>do through the course of the day and the night,

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 5>and you start all over again and go through it.

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 5>I've got a very supportive wife in Saphie. She's just

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 5>a champion, and she's worked with me for a ten

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 5>years and we've been married for almost four years now,

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<v Speaker 5>and she's turned my life around. Which is the same

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 5>time that I started having grandchildren. Neighbors turning six and

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 5>no he's turning six next year, and then the other

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 5>five little grand kids down to little Miller who's the

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<v Speaker 5>newest edition. I've had one speed and that's full steam ahead,

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<v Speaker 5>and I don't want to get to the stage beyond

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<v Speaker 5>this where I can't go full steam ahead and then

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 5>someone taps me on the shoulder and says, oh, fella,

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 5>it's time for you to go out the past yere.

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 5>So I've gone out having one hundred and sixty surveys

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 5>and hopefully it won sixty one next Thursday. I'm comfortable

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 5>with it. No one's tapped me on the shoulder. I

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 5>basically nego shaded my way out of a contract for

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 5>two years, and there's noncompete clauses in that, which is

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 5>obvious because I can't go and work somewhere else on radio,

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 5>and I wouldn't want it because two GB's been myham

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:41.959
<v Speaker 5>for twenty four years. But I've gone out on my terms,

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 5>and my terms are that I've worked at a great place.

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:46.240
<v Speaker 2>It's still a great place.

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 5>There are great broadcasters there, There are great people running

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 5>the place, and I wish them the very best of luck.

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 2>But they're going to be doing it without me in

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 2>the future, which they understand.

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see what's next. I can't wait

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 1>for you to come and have a chat to us

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>at any point you'd like to, we'll send a camera

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 1>to you wherever you happen to be. But congratulations, mate,

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 1>what a phenomenal radio career. Hall of fame man, can

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 1>you believe it? Congratulations, Thank you to everything you've done

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>for me privately, professionally, personally as well. Mate. I love

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 1>your congratulations.

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 5>Well, I love you, and I'll give you a go play

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 5>the guarantee. Whatever I do, I'll always be available to

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 5>talk on this program because it, of course sets the

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 5>agenda in many areas. And I love the fact that

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 5>you're a bit mad, and that's one of your more

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 5>dearing qualities. You've always been a bit mad. In fact

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 5>that they're in stage is Paul, You've been the only

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 5>one in the media madder than me, which really is

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 5>I'm really appreciative.

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 1>There's about eight cut snakes running around in this brain each.

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 2>And every day. Take came good on you, mate, Thanks

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 2>very mate.

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Congratulations.

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 12>Right.

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 1>The great Megan Kelly joins us right after the break.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, she is on fire. She's going to

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>give it to the media. She's going to give it

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 1>to Kamala. You're gonna love every second of these don't

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 1>go anyway. It's the lady that we had been talking

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 1>to for years now in anticipation of this election result,

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>our wonderful friend, Megan Kelly, Megan, can you believe it? It happened?

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 4>I know, God bless him, God did bless him. Paul.

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there are a lot of people here who

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:29.239
<v Speaker 3>really feel like it was divine right order that he

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 3>was saved at the Butler rally because he had something

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:35.760
<v Speaker 3>important to do, and that everything since then has been

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Trump fulfilling his destiny to retake this very important role

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 3>and change the world, starting with our country.

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 4>There's so much he can do on day one.

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 3>It's actual like he will be saving lives on day

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 3>one of his presidency just by shoring up the border

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 3>with a stroke of his pen. Joe Biden undid it

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 3>with a stroke of his and Trump can reassure us

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 3>of our safety all along the side than border on

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 3>day one of his presidency.

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 4>It was his main issue that he ran on.

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<v Speaker 3>I have zero doubt that he will do it, and

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 3>for that reason today I am celebrating. I think literally

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:14.240
<v Speaker 3>this was a life saving election. Donald Trump was made

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 3>for this fight, and now he will fulfill his ultimate

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 3>destiny in these next four years, and then hopefully be

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 3>able to somehow ride off into this suset and enjoy

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 3>a relaxing retirement, even though that doesn't sound like Donald Trump.

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Now, I want to go back a couple of days

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 1>before the election, because you were at a rally and

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 1>you gave a phenomenal speech. I want people to be

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 1>able to say a little bit of it. First.

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 3>I really enjoy this feeling of proving Mark Cuban wrong.

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 13>And so here I am at a Trump rally, a strong,

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 13>intelligent woman to prove Mark Cuban wrong again.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, forget RFKJ, forget the MSJ. That's the moment where

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 1>he won this election. You did it.

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 3>Definitely not no Trump got himself there. But I'll tell

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:12.279
<v Speaker 3>you I was happy to do it, Paul, because you

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 3>know it was like I've been so distressed over the

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 3>gas lighting of the American people and of American women,

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 3>the core issues that I know we care about. I mean,

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:25.880
<v Speaker 3>the Democrats define us entirely by our wounds and our

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 3>ability to kill our onborn children. That is all they

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:33.839
<v Speaker 3>think we care about. And I am a woman, I'm

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 3>a mom, I'm a wife, and I know that my

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 3>own set of desires and hopes and my concerns for

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:44.719
<v Speaker 3>the world revolve around far more than the right to

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 3>get an abortion if I or someone I know once one.

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 4>So it was burning, It was burning me.

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to go out there and say what I

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:55.839
<v Speaker 3>know all of my friends actually care about what I

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 3>actually care about, and it's not entirely defined at all

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 3>by abortion rights, which, by the ways we've discussed, is

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:04.800
<v Speaker 3>a state's right issue. It is not a federal issue.

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 3>That's all been one big headfake. So it was cathartic

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:12.320
<v Speaker 3>to stand up there and talk about the actual issues

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 3>that are affecting women outside of that one, which has

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:18.959
<v Speaker 3>already been adjudicated, and to the extent it hasn't been.

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:22.880
<v Speaker 3>It's a matter of state and local elections, not the

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 3>federal one. There are a lot of things the US

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 3>president can do to keep women safe. Anything revolving around

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 3>abortion is not on the list. He doesn't have the power,

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 3>and I'm sure the left is very happy to admit

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 3>that now that Donald Trump has actually won, I.

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Reckon one of the most fascinating things about the election

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:44.960
<v Speaker 1>is that in deep red parts that voted for Trump

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 1>by ten twenty points. They also voted to legalize and

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 1>protect abortion. Isn't that the whole idea of this country

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:56.319
<v Speaker 1>that states have different laws, different systems, but they can

0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:58.280
<v Speaker 1>also wal can't you come at the same.

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:01.320
<v Speaker 3>Time, absolutely right, same way. You go to certain states

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:04.920
<v Speaker 3>in the Union, and you'll see guys carrying very large

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 3>guns that are air fifteen's because it's open carry and

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 3>they're allowed to just walk around having the guns. That

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 3>can be very jarring to people visiting from other countries

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 3>or blue blue states like New York, where you would

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 3>never see that. That's fine, it's cultural. Each state has

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:24.840
<v Speaker 3>its own particular culture and personality.

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 4>And value set. And we knew that two.

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 3>Hundred and fifty years ago when the country was coming together,

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:32.520
<v Speaker 3>and it was a source of negotiations saying we don't want.

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:33.439
<v Speaker 4>To be homogeneous.

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 3>We want to be one union that works together on

0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 3>some common goals, but.

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 4>No one wants to give up their.

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:43.480
<v Speaker 3>Individual personalities or value sets. Only in today's regime are

0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 3>we now suddenly told we must everyone must feel as

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 3>the Democrats do when it comes to the abortion issue.

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 3>So now we are settling back down into what used

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:55.320
<v Speaker 3>to be stasis, where each state is allowed to be

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 3>its own independent laboratory on laws and values and so on,

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:01.879
<v Speaker 3>as long as they do conflict with the ultimate laws,

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 3>which are our Constitution and the Supreme Court set and

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:09.439
<v Speaker 3>dabbs that's not regulated by the Constitution. States do your thing.

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 3>So now we're back where we ought to be. Second point.

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 3>All the past six months or more a year, the

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 3>Democrats have been talking about how Kamala needs to be

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 3>president because she needs to at the federal level write

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 3>a national abortion law. Congress writes it and she'll sign it,

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 3>restoring the row regime in all fifty states, and all along,

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:32.440
<v Speaker 3>I have been saying, this is such a head fake,

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:35.520
<v Speaker 3>it's nonsense, because Congress doesn't have that power. Congress can

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:38.400
<v Speaker 3>only legislate certain things if it has the power written

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:41.920
<v Speaker 3>into it by the Constitution, like the commerce clause or

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:44.719
<v Speaker 3>the taxing power. If it doesn't fall within one of

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:48.480
<v Speaker 3>enumerated powers, it can't regulate it, and that includes abortion.

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't have the power to regulate abortion at the

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 3>national level. It's tried in the past. Some of those

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:58.400
<v Speaker 3>laws stood because they weren't challenged, arguing Congress didn't have

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:00.400
<v Speaker 3>the power to do it. But trust me, if if

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:02.879
<v Speaker 3>Trump ever tried to sign an abortion band, it would

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:04.400
<v Speaker 3>be and the Supreme Court would say he doesn't have

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:06.360
<v Speaker 3>to do it. My point is simply she was running

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:09.359
<v Speaker 3>around saying we should do it, we should legislate it,

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 3>and we should get rid of minority rates in the

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:13.759
<v Speaker 3>Senate with a filibuster. Get rid of the filibuster so

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:15.760
<v Speaker 3>that there's no more minority rights. We can get lost

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:18.239
<v Speaker 3>through with only fifty one votes instead of the necessary

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 3>sixty on things like this. And now that she's lost,

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 3>will she admit that that was a terrible idea? Now

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:27.760
<v Speaker 3>that she's in the minority in the Senate her party,

0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 3>you think they're going to maintain that same position that

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 3>it can be regulated on a national level, that the

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 3>good idea is to get rid of minority rates in

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:38.239
<v Speaker 3>the Senate, to jam this down the throats of the

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 3>American people, writ large.

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 4>Will you watch the one to eighty. It's going to.

0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Go like that now.

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:46.839
<v Speaker 1>I O. Harris of course officially conceded just a few

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:49.839
<v Speaker 1>hours ago. But I think the true insight into her

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:53.320
<v Speaker 1>character was that, despite being the fighter and the person

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:56.840
<v Speaker 1>who was there for joy on election night, she left

0:38:56.960 --> 0:38:59.879
<v Speaker 1>the tens of thousands of people who had desperately hoped

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 1>they were going to watch some history who had broken hearts.

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 1>But she just lift them by the side of the road.

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:08.239
<v Speaker 3>She didn't even have the stones to go out there

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 3>and face the people who supposedly love her and say.

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 4>We're going to wait until tomorrow.

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:18.880
<v Speaker 3>There's still more accounting to be done, and out of

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 3>respect for the voters in those states, I'm going to

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 3>hold off on my message. But I love you, I

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:27.440
<v Speaker 3>thank you for your tireless work on my behalf and

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:30.919
<v Speaker 3>to be continued. It would not have taken anything more

0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:36.280
<v Speaker 3>than that. But this woman, this I'm speaking, I'm speaking

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:41.759
<v Speaker 3>empowered woman sent a male staffer out there nobody even

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:45.880
<v Speaker 3>knew to tell them she wasn't coming. She was cowering

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 3>in the back, just like Kamala's been doing. She's been

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 3>cowering and she's been cackling. And what she hasn't been

0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:57.720
<v Speaker 3>doing is actually standing up and fighting for America's working class.

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 3>And last night they had the final say on her,

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:06.280
<v Speaker 3>saying we're done. We don't believe in you anymore, Black, white, Hispanic.

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:09.279
<v Speaker 3>It was the working class that put Trump over the top,

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:12.839
<v Speaker 3>because he does speak to them, and he speaks for them,

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:17.359
<v Speaker 3>and Kamala Harris eventually spoke today and hopefully now we'll

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 3>be leaving the national stage very soon.

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:24.799
<v Speaker 1>I love Meghan, we love talking to her. Show of

0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:27.400
<v Speaker 1>course on YouTube, and more highlights of our conversation is

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:29.480
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube. And by the way, can you believe that

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:32.880
<v Speaker 1>our editorial from last night more than five million people

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 1>around the world have watched it and counting after the

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 1>break A man who knows how Trump works, about how

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Trump puts together a government and what happens to the

0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Democrats from here, they are scratching their eyes out, and

0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:56.120
<v Speaker 1>I loved it. After this extraordinary week, in this extraordinary time,

0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:58.279
<v Speaker 1>in this extraordinary place, I'm so pleased that I've got

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>a little time here to talk to Mick Mulvaaney, of course,

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:03.279
<v Speaker 1>the former chief of staff to Donald Trump. And we

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:06.759
<v Speaker 1>should never take for granted our proximity to mix and

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 1>mix institutional knowledge, and we appreciate it, We appreciate the insight,

0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 1>and for little old Australia, it means an awful lot

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:19.920
<v Speaker 1>to have the insight that you've given us. So I

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 1>want to ask a couple of questions obviously about Trump

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:24.440
<v Speaker 1>and the administration all the rest of it, but I

0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:27.000
<v Speaker 1>also just want to talk about what it's like to

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 1>come into office now. Obviously there's a run up between

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:34.799
<v Speaker 1>now and January. But then there's the moment when after

0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:38.360
<v Speaker 1>midday you walk into the office and you are running

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:43.120
<v Speaker 1>the government. How does the president, even one who's been

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:48.320
<v Speaker 1>there before, manage the moment from theoretically running the country

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:49.919
<v Speaker 1>to actually running them.

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 12>So it's a fascinating question from a historical perspective, because

0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:56.359
<v Speaker 12>Donald Trump is getting ready, is doing something today that

0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 12>no living human being has ever done, which is a

0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:02.960
<v Speaker 12>former president being again, which might make him the only

0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:07.160
<v Speaker 12>person ever truly qualified for the job. Because the only

0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:09.600
<v Speaker 12>way you can learn how to be president is to

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:10.480
<v Speaker 12>be the president.

0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 11>The job has started already. The job started.

0:42:12.760 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 12>The I lose track of the day as it happens

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 12>this week, But Wednesday morning, the next administration started, and

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:22.360
<v Speaker 12>there are people already working sixteen hours a day. There's

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:26.040
<v Speaker 12>buildings throughout this entire city now filling up with people

0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:27.800
<v Speaker 12>working on the transition to new government.

0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:28.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm not making that up.

0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:30.239
<v Speaker 12>You could drive down the street here and there's a

0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:33.000
<v Speaker 12>building right down there that is about six floors of

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:39.200
<v Speaker 12>now Trump transition staff working on hiring four thousand people

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:41.360
<v Speaker 12>to help the next administration run the government.

0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:43.920
<v Speaker 11>So it is a full time job from day one.

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:47.440
<v Speaker 12>Yes, the inauguration doesn't happen until January twentieth, but the

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:49.960
<v Speaker 12>next administration has actually started already.

0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:52.319
<v Speaker 1>And the reason I asked that question is because people

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:55.319
<v Speaker 1>are going to say stories about or Trump trying to

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:58.200
<v Speaker 1>be a shadow president while Biden's the real president. This

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:01.000
<v Speaker 1>is what they all do, right talking to World Ladist,

0:43:01.040 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 1>they are all basically letting the existing president have the

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:08.800
<v Speaker 1>power to be able to respond to a national security emergency.

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:12.280
<v Speaker 1>But effectively, if you're a CEO or a prime minister

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:15.480
<v Speaker 1>or a president of somewhere else, you're taken to the

0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 1>new goutte up the older you are.

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:18.719
<v Speaker 12>And I think it's a uniquely American thing, at least

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:21.239
<v Speaker 12>with most of the Western style democracies. I think you

0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 12>do it the same way the Brits do, which is

0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 12>in the day after the election, your prime minister changes.

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 12>This overlap period we call it the lame duck, is

0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 12>a truly I think it's a unique American creation.

0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 11>It's fascinating to watch.

0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:33.680
<v Speaker 12>By the way, in addition to what you've just described,

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:35.759
<v Speaker 12>which is sort of having two presidents at the same time,

0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:39.160
<v Speaker 12>not officially obviously, but it's sort of a de facto

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 12>dual presidency.

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:42.919
<v Speaker 11>The building behind us is coming back next week.

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:45.879
<v Speaker 12>Yes, and all of the folks who just lost their

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:48.319
<v Speaker 12>jobs there weren't many of them, but they still have

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 12>a job voting until January twenty.

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:52.960
<v Speaker 11>So the old Congress will come back.

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:55.960
<v Speaker 12>Next week in this building. They'll be voting on things of.

0:43:57.560 --> 0:43:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Gravity.

0:43:58.000 --> 0:43:59.480
<v Speaker 11>They'll be voting on funding the government.

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.920
<v Speaker 12>Lot of giant legislative proposals will be dealt with between

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:05.760
<v Speaker 12>now and January. So you're a new member of Congress

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:07.359
<v Speaker 12>and you can't even get in the building yet. I've

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 12>been in that shoe as well, so that this overlap

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:12.440
<v Speaker 12>period is fascinating to see. It's a good time I

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:17.200
<v Speaker 12>think for foreign governments to reach out to the Trump

0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:19.160
<v Speaker 12>team now again, they don't really have to do that

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 12>as much this time because they know Trump. I mean

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:24.520
<v Speaker 12>alber Easy doesn't because he wasn't Prime Minister when Trump

0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 12>was was was president the first time. But there's the

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:32.080
<v Speaker 12>institutional knowledge is there. The government organizations in Australia know

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:35.239
<v Speaker 12>the government organizations here and they transition I think between

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 12>the two is going to be very simple.

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Let's get to the brass text that the existing Prime

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:42.560
<v Speaker 1>minister said that Trump scared the ass out of him. Yes,

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:47.400
<v Speaker 1>the ambassador has previously said pretty nasty things and literally

0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:51.320
<v Speaker 1>today has deleted tweets that were critical of that always works.

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:55.799
<v Speaker 1>So how does Trump view Australia if those are the

0:44:55.840 --> 0:44:57.400
<v Speaker 1>faces of our country?

0:44:57.800 --> 0:44:59.400
<v Speaker 12>I get this question a lot, and people are always

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:02.480
<v Speaker 12>stunned by my answer the same way you and I would.

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:04.920
<v Speaker 12>I mean, if I was doing this interview and I

0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:06.560
<v Speaker 12>walking up the steps and I've seen that, Oh, Paul

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:08.319
<v Speaker 12>just tweeted out that I was a complete so and

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 12>so and so and so.

0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:11.920
<v Speaker 11>Do you think it might impact this dynamic diress?

0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:12.719
<v Speaker 1>It would?

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:15.000
<v Speaker 11>Now that's that's That's one side of the argument.

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:16.960
<v Speaker 12>The other argument is is like, as long as we've

0:45:16.960 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 12>got a decent relationship, like.

0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:21.120
<v Speaker 11>I said, Paul, what the hell is this exactly?

0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 1>And you can work through it.

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:24.240
<v Speaker 11>I think that's that's how I describe it to people.

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:25.840
<v Speaker 11>Is it going to be an issue?

0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 11>When is it not going to be an issue when

0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:30.880
<v Speaker 11>it gets fixed? Because that's what people do.

0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 12>Nothing makes you a different kind of human being when

0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:36.520
<v Speaker 12>you win an election, and that includes the election for president.

0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 12>So Donald Trump sitting in his office right now in

0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:41.960
<v Speaker 12>New York. I guess he's in Marlago. Is a person

0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:44.520
<v Speaker 12>and he's going to wonder why alber Easy said these

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:46.600
<v Speaker 12>things about him. He probably knows why, but he's going

0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:48.759
<v Speaker 12>to say, Okay, how do we work through this? Now

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:51.280
<v Speaker 12>it's going to be in alban Ezi's court to start.

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:52.759
<v Speaker 12>It's not like Donald Trump is going to call him

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:54.880
<v Speaker 12>and say, Albanezi, we'd like to apologize.

0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:56.680
<v Speaker 11>So I'm a little surprised.

0:45:57.480 --> 0:46:00.800
<v Speaker 12>As someone who does follow us Australian relations very closely.

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:02.880
<v Speaker 12>I'm still good friends with Joe Hockey, as you know,

0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:06.000
<v Speaker 12>I'm a little disappointed that Albaneze hasn't reached out yet.

0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:08.359
<v Speaker 12>If I was advising him, if I was in his government.

0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:09.400
<v Speaker 11>I said, look, pick up the phone.

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:10.200
<v Speaker 1>He's going to call.

0:46:11.120 --> 0:46:12.640
<v Speaker 12>You can't be to the point where we just hope

0:46:12.640 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 12>it's going to go away without doing anything.

0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:14.359
<v Speaker 11>Well.

0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 1>And also we're sort of saying now again some of

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<v Speaker 1>the side reporting that you know, they're taking note of

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<v Speaker 1>who's ringing versus who was expecial run and guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>when you've won, don't expect to call you're ringing him? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way it works. All, I've got just a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of seconds left. Literally, what are you most hopeful

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<v Speaker 1>about about that first hundred.

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<v Speaker 11>Days that they hit the ground running.

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<v Speaker 12>The biggest impediment to the first term was that there

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<v Speaker 12>was a learning curve because Trump didn't expect to win.

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<v Speaker 12>He hadn't done the work necessary during this lame duck period,

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<v Speaker 12>in fact, before the election in twenty sixteen. I'm excited

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<v Speaker 12>to see what happens once he's got a team in

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<v Speaker 12>place that's ready to go today and then again on

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<v Speaker 12>January twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Good stuff. Thank you, mix really appreciate it. Look forward

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<v Speaker 1>to talking to you in the future. This has been

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<v Speaker 1>an extraordinary week. This has been a real personal highlight,

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<v Speaker 1>rational highlight as well. We have seen history. It has

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<v Speaker 1>been a joy to share it with you. It is

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<v Speaker 1>the privilege of a lifetime to watch this history happen

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<v Speaker 1>before I very ownized the forty fifth president has returned

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<v Speaker 1>as the forty seventh president of the United States.

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<v Speaker 14>We made history for a reason tonight, and the reason

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<v Speaker 14>is going to be just that we overcame obstacles that

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<v Speaker 14>nobody thought possible, and it's now clear that we've achieved

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<v Speaker 14>the most incredible political there Look what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>This is crazy.

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<v Speaker 14>I want to thank the American people for the extraordinary

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<v Speaker 14>honor of being elected your forty seventh president.

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<v Speaker 11>And you're forty fifth president.

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<v Speaker 14>This is a magnificent victory for the American people that

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<v Speaker 14>will allowow us to maybe America green again.

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<v Speaker 1>Extraordinary, isn't it? It really is. Again, Thank you to

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<v Speaker 1>everyone who has been watching, and thank you to all

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<v Speaker 1>the people that have helped put it together, the teams

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<v Speaker 1>that have worked with us here and at home. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been full on, but it has been amazing. Again. Just

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<v Speaker 1>think about think about where we were in July when

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<v Speaker 1>there was a chance that this much difference was the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between life and death. Think about now where we

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<v Speaker 1>are in November, where he's about to become the leader

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<v Speaker 1>of the free world again. It is an extraordinary story

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<v Speaker 1>and we've got to see it. You saw it in

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<v Speaker 1>real time. We will remember it for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>our lives. Thank you for the privilege of your company.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm off to Vegas see in a few days.