Speaker 1: From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Sherry, Big News and great stuff for their
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Speaker 2: dot com dot U and Mula Two's time. Three questions
Speaker 2: off the top of the show before I get into
Speaker 2: the big stuff that's annoyed me today? Can a sex
Speaker 2: club or sorry, adult lifestyle club become a tourist attraction?
Speaker 2: That's the claim in Melbourne when a ghost complains, does
Speaker 2: anyone hear the sound? And how goods Megan Caley she's
Speaker 2: on the night.
Speaker 3: This is not a deal breaker for JD Vance. The
Speaker 3: Democrats don't have a lot on JD and they do
Speaker 3: consider him a massive threat given his genuine ties to
Speaker 3: Appalachia and the white working class, and they're trying to
Speaker 3: do their best to stir up hatred for him. Hatred,
Speaker 3: I mean that's They just sent out a tweet saying
Speaker 3: he hates women.
Speaker 2: Now, remember one of the key promises of this government
Speaker 2: was that they were going to make life better for you.
Speaker 2: That promise wasn't made this year. It wasn't made last year.
Speaker 2: Of course, was made many times up to the action
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two. It's still on the Prime Minister's
Speaker 2: Twitter feed, but I noticed he hasn't reposted it since
Speaker 2: he made it before the last election. We've recalled this
Speaker 2: as the central failure of this government and it is
Speaker 2: one that they can't spin their way out of.
Speaker 1: The promise was clear, no asterisks.
Speaker 2: No, maybe he's no timetables, but a labour government will
Speaker 2: lower the cost of living.
Speaker 1: Well, guess what happened today.
Speaker 4: Crucial inflation figures show prices still rising.
Speaker 5: Australians are paying much more for food, electricity and rant,
Speaker 5: pushing up the inflation rate, rising costs of groceries, feeding
Speaker 5: and expected rise and inflation in the June quarter to
Speaker 5: three point eight percent.
Speaker 2: Now, reality is Reservebank needs it between two and three percent.
Speaker 2: The month that was just before this, of course, so
Speaker 2: before the reporting period May was four percent. It is
Speaker 2: now just under that number, but still it is higher
Speaker 2: than where it was.
Speaker 1: In the previous three months.
Speaker 2: So put simply, for the first six months of this year,
Speaker 2: things got more expensive. To break it down month by month,
Speaker 2: here's what happened month in June. Will the monthly inflation
Speaker 2: rate was three point eight percent, way higher than that.
Speaker 1: The cost of tobacco, that is what is part of
Speaker 1: this calculation.
Speaker 2: Electricity way more than three point eight at seven point five,
Speaker 2: rent at seven percent, automotive fuel, it's almost like we've
Speaker 2: seen this coming. Petrol at six point six percent, not
Speaker 2: to mention the amount of money for people to set
Speaker 2: up a brand new home that they would live in,
Speaker 2: the clothes that they would wear, and so on and
Speaker 2: so on. Now all of this has been absolute lineball stuff,
Speaker 2: because we know the last time the Reserve Bank met
Speaker 2: now they have of course raised interest rates twelve times
Speaker 2: under this government, once under the previous but twelve times
Speaker 2: under this government. A thirteenth will be political bombshell will
Speaker 2: go off and there will be major problems for a
Speaker 2: government that is suffering on many fronts. But the question
Speaker 2: is the information that we got today does it lead
Speaker 2: us in the obvious direction, which is if inflation keeps
Speaker 2: going up, then interest rates go up as well.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: Plenty of people, including a person who's regularly seen on
Speaker 2: this program from Judo Bank, is none other than Warren Hogan.
Speaker 2: He said this today the sky newses ross Greenwood.
Speaker 4: I personally think it's a line baller corp. It'll be
Speaker 4: fascinating to see what happens the risk of not raising
Speaker 4: rates is that if the tax cuts stimulate the economy,
Speaker 4: if the job's growth continues, that inflation starts to pick up.
Speaker 4: And of course it opens the risks that they have
Speaker 4: to do more than one or two, that they have
Speaker 4: to do three, four or five. Of course, what I'm
Speaker 4: saying is it opens the risk that they have to
Speaker 4: put the economy into recession.
Speaker 2: Now, all of the indicators are that if everything is
Speaker 2: more expensive, then the Reserve Bank responds in the same
Speaker 2: brutal fashion that they have twelve times since this government
Speaker 2: came to power. The government the promise to make things cheaper,
Speaker 2: therefore to bring down inflation. But of course it is
Speaker 2: not working.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Without getting too boring about this, and I do not
Speaker 2: pretend to be an economist, but somebody who of course
Speaker 2: is watching the news is in a very granular fashion
Speaker 2: like you do each.
Speaker 1: And every night.
Speaker 2: We try to bring you the information and present the
Speaker 2: people who know what they are talking about with specificity,
Speaker 2: to bring you the data to then add to our opinions.
Speaker 2: But there seems to be a new get out of
Speaker 2: jail situation for the government, which is the difference between
Speaker 2: core and non core inflation. Now I'll explain what all
Speaker 2: that is in a moment. But this is Jim Charmers
Speaker 2: reaching for that as a message to the Reserve Bank,
Speaker 2: saying it's a line ball call. But if it's a
Speaker 2: lineball call, it should land on don't raise the rates.
Speaker 5: What this means is that we are seeing underlying inflation
Speaker 5: in our economy moderate. We would like it to moderate
Speaker 5: further and faster, but this is the sixth consecutive quarter
Speaker 5: that underlying inflation has moderated, and it is also moderating
Speaker 5: in quarterly and annual terms, and we welcome that.
Speaker 1: Now, I get it. What does it?
Speaker 2: Stats can be pushed in lots of different directions, and
Speaker 2: of course they can fit multiple people's argument. What is
Speaker 2: frustrating for those that are, of course very nervous about
Speaker 2: what might be happening is to work out what is
Speaker 2: the key indicies that everyone is looking at. Now we
Speaker 2: have been told relentlessly that it is about inflation, not
Speaker 2: the different versions or types or greater detail. This was
Speaker 2: political spin from the government trying to find the best
Speaker 2: possible number in a headline raising number with many factors
Speaker 2: that in the last month were multiple times the headline number.
Speaker 2: So what is core inflation versus non core inflation. YouTube
Speaker 2: will have the answer for US.
Speaker 6: Core inflation, also known as underlying inflation, is a measure
Speaker 6: of inflation which excludes items that face volatile price movement,
Speaker 6: notably food and energy. That food and fuel prices may
Speaker 6: go up in the short run due to some disturbance
Speaker 6: in the agriculture sector or oil economy, However, over the
Speaker 6: long term they tend to revert back to their normal
Speaker 6: trend growth. On the other hand, prices of other commodities
Speaker 6: do not fluctuate as regular early as food and field.
Speaker 2: Now, the other thing that you need to know is
Speaker 2: that Australia's inflation rate is higher than places like the
Speaker 2: UK and the US.
Speaker 1: Huge factor in the UK election.
Speaker 2: Apart from the obvious mess that was the previous government,
Speaker 2: was of course to living crisis. Well, their inflation rate
Speaker 2: is lower than ours. The United States, the number one
Speaker 2: issue in the presidential election, regardless of whom people are
Speaker 2: planning to vote for at this upcoming election, is inflation.
Speaker 1: Their rate lower than ours.
Speaker 2: Now, there have been many people that have come forward
Speaker 2: and said that one of the things that is keeping
Speaker 2: inflation a little high in Australia is the billions and
Speaker 2: billions of dollars which are being spent by state governments
Speaker 2: and federal governments as well, not to mention increased welfare
Speaker 2: spending and a lot of other things. But of course,
Speaker 2: Jim Chalmers says, nothing to see here.
Speaker 5: We have made some substantial progress. We'd like to make
Speaker 5: more progress. We need inflation to moderate further and faster.
Speaker 5: Inflation is sticky and stubborn in our economy, as it
Speaker 5: has been in other economies earlier in the year.
Speaker 2: Now, sometimes it feels like you're wrestling with smoke here,
Speaker 2: because of course you have the politicians trying to tell
Speaker 2: you that well.
Speaker 1: Up is down, down is up, and black is white
Speaker 1: and left is right.
Speaker 2: You're all of that crap right, because it serves their interests.
Speaker 2: But as we've told you, there's every possible industry for
Speaker 2: the number of cars that are being repossessed, the number
Speaker 2: of people that aren't paying their loans, the number of
Speaker 2: people that having difficulty with their loans, the overall price
Speaker 2: increases that are taking place that, regardless of what is
Speaker 2: happening up in the headline world, in the per capital world,
Speaker 2: we are in a recession. This is a key reason
Speaker 2: why you would think the Reserve Bank wouldn't think about
Speaker 2: raising interest rates. But they have told us, and they
Speaker 2: have done it twelve times in a row, that the
Speaker 2: inflation must hit between two and three. It's now close
Speaker 2: to four than it is three, and they only have
Speaker 2: one leave at a pull.
Speaker 1: Will they pull up? We'll all find out together.
Speaker 2: But as to say, when you're sort of wrestling with smoke,
Speaker 2: it's good to see from time to time people who
Speaker 2: are well. You happen to line up with most of
Speaker 2: the people here, of course you'll see in primetime absolutely
Speaker 2: clear about things like cost of living and the political
Speaker 2: impact of inflation. But interesting to note that Peter van Onslan,
Speaker 2: who often we agree disagree with whatever, but he has
Speaker 2: hit rather hard today in the Daily Mail about just
Speaker 2: this wrestling with smoke factor. That is, the Treasurer Jim
Speaker 2: Chalmer's excuses for Australia's inflation crisis spectacularly unraveled two key stats,
Speaker 2: easily blowing apart the garbage the Treasurer is peddling.
Speaker 1: Nice and clear.
Speaker 2: Here, he says, the Treasurer wants you to believe that
Speaker 2: this is a global problem, claiming on Wednesday that some
Speaker 2: global pressures are helping fuel stick inflation. But it's not,
Speaker 2: as I explained before, places like the United States and
Speaker 2: the UK lower than where we are right now. And
Speaker 2: then there's the issue of the budget now of course,
Speaker 2: the two little too late tax cuts, the power bill
Speaker 2: measures which mean people from mansions to one bedroom units
Speaker 2: we'll all get the same three hundred dollars, all of
Speaker 2: which is being eaten up by increased power prices. I've
Speaker 2: got more of that in a second again, Pvo says.
Speaker 2: Charmers also attacked economists who The Times suggested that the
Speaker 2: budget will be inflationary. The Treasurer now has mud on
Speaker 2: his face, that's for sure. In fact, it's covered him
Speaker 2: from head to toe, well said. Meantime, one of the
Speaker 2: issues in and around the politics of what is happening
Speaker 2: now is that the Australian economy is not in a
Speaker 2: great place and the reality is nowhere near what was promised.
Speaker 2: Hence why the Prime Minister is in a series of
Speaker 2: problems at the moment, with the polls that even the
Speaker 2: poles that turn up in places like the Guardians say
Speaker 2: more people disapprove than approve of his job right now,
Speaker 2: and in fact more people approve than disapprove of.
Speaker 1: Where Peter Dutton is right now. Now, of course it's
Speaker 1: the Teals.
Speaker 2: And I say this every night because I know somebody
Speaker 2: will run after the umpire and we'll end up turning
Speaker 2: up on some sort of media criticism show. We all
Speaker 2: know that the path to seventy six is complicated, particularly
Speaker 2: for the opposition because of the Teals, but still it
Speaker 2: all matters here and it's interesting to note again the
Speaker 2: people who normally wouldn't line up with us, who are
Speaker 2: starting to line up and admit what we have known
Speaker 2: since day one of the government, and even if you
Speaker 2: gave him the benefit of the doubt, what was clean
Speaker 2: by year one of the government, by year two of
Speaker 2: the governor. Now, as we move towards an election, the
Speaker 2: City warning Herald they're editorial today Albaneza government has work
Speaker 2: to do to keep the elected on board. The latest
Speaker 2: Resolve political monitor conducted for the Herald shows people are
Speaker 2: to tuning out from the Labor government. Voters boosted the
Speaker 2: coalition to another high in support after months of steady
Speaker 2: gains to the Liberal Party leader Peter Dutton and his team.
Speaker 2: The government has drifted in popularity since it's failed referendum.
Speaker 2: Voice in October last year. Weeks later, the High Court
Speaker 2: ruled against indefinite detention, leading to the release of one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty people, some of whom were later found
Speaker 2: to have serious criminal histories. The Herald goes on, the consistent,
Speaker 2: slow drip feed of negative economic news has been water
Speaker 2: torture for households facing sustained cost of living pressures as
Speaker 2: they struggle to understand why economists are again discussing another
Speaker 2: interest rate rise. So the political problem for the government
Speaker 2: is obvious. We promise to fix the problem, but they don't.
Speaker 2: The problem becomes demonstrably worse on their watch. But they
Speaker 2: want a gold medal because the latest number is slightly
Speaker 2: better than the one from twelve months ago or twelve
Speaker 2: months before that. The reality, of course, is that every
Speaker 2: single month, whether the number is way up or slightly down,
Speaker 2: it's still higher than where it was.
Speaker 1: When they took office.
Speaker 2: That means, of course, that fundamental problem and that fundamental
Speaker 2: promise is broken. But before anyone's thinking about turning and
Speaker 2: turning away from a government, you need to know what
Speaker 2: an opposition would do. This is the chief problem of oppositions.
Speaker 2: If you make a vague promise like the previous government
Speaker 2: did saying we'll make it all better, or when it
Speaker 2: all turns out not to be better, you can be
Speaker 2: held pretty obviously accountable for it when you say you're
Speaker 2: going to drop power prices by two hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: five dollars, But then you come up with new ways
Speaker 2: of pretending you never said it. People remember, and that
Speaker 2: starts to throw sand into the political gears.
Speaker 1: Of the government.
Speaker 2: Obviously, for the opposition, it's easy for them on some
Speaker 2: levels just to try to scoop people up as they
Speaker 2: become dissatisfied with the government, but at some point they
Speaker 2: have to say what their plan would be, what they
Speaker 2: would do, what policies they could put in place. Now,
Speaker 2: of course, if that means a reduction and the amount
Speaker 2: of money that we spend in the budget, where we
Speaker 2: all know how that's automatically interpreted by the ad makers
Speaker 2: of the Labour Party cut cut cut, cut, cut, cut, cut,
Speaker 2: cut cut. But if people know that the budget is
Speaker 2: part of the problem and the government tells you there
Speaker 2: isn't a problem, well then it does make an easier
Speaker 2: argument for those that are trying to prosecute.
Speaker 1: Against them right now.
Speaker 2: But then there's another factor now this factor has been
Speaker 2: used relentlessly to bash up on conservative governments, and Patricia
Speaker 2: carvellis again I'm focusing on some people who we normally
Speaker 2: wouldn't be throwing much praise at because they probably wouldn't
Speaker 2: even look sideways at us. But still, broken clocks and
Speaker 2: all the rest of it. Anthony Ibnez's wo go much
Speaker 2: deeper than the reshuffle. Voter confidence has plummeted. She quoted
Speaker 2: her poll which yes goes back to January, but I
Speaker 2: think would be worse now. And that is the percentage
Speaker 2: of Australians who feel they have a great deal or
Speaker 2: quite a lot of confidence in the federal government. The
Speaker 2: number is now thirty eight and a bit percent. That
Speaker 2: number is ever so slightly higher than the number that
Speaker 2: caused a change of government in twenty twenty two. Now,
Speaker 2: as you can see the high points on the left,
Speaker 2: well that's all in and around the COVID period. Then
Speaker 2: of course there was the consequences after it, which resulted
Speaker 2: in a change of government. The change of government resulted
Speaker 2: in the spike and then the failure to deliver on
Speaker 2: the promises or when they're caught out lying, but they
Speaker 2: tell you that everything is awesome. Well that again is
Speaker 2: now starting to put them into a territory that statistically
Speaker 2: is a world of trouble. But again the reason Albanezi
Speaker 2: probably sleeps a little more comfortably that he should based
Speaker 2: off poles that are showing us that within six months
Speaker 2: of election he is currently behind in multiple areas, not
Speaker 2: in Newspole, but in multiple others. Is again the teals
Speaker 2: So we'll have to wait and see. And it is
Speaker 2: interesting about the number of people and the amount of
Speaker 2: poles that are around in Australia that they are not
Speaker 2: doing some version of seat by seat polling to tell
Speaker 2: us if there has any change or sentiment towards the independence.
Speaker 2: I know at times they talk about things like double haters,
Speaker 2: where people who hate both major parties, and that of
Speaker 2: course is all soft promotion for the third option or
Speaker 2: the fourth or the fifth.
Speaker 1: Depending on how you look at things.
Speaker 2: But if the Prime Minister and the Treasurer think that
Speaker 2: they can keep punching out budgets that pretend to take
Speaker 2: care of things but actually make things worse, then it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter what they do in the big cashplash before
Speaker 2: the next election. If people, as predicted by some of
Speaker 2: these media organizations are starting to not even listen. Then
Speaker 2: it won't even matter. Now part of all of this
Speaker 2: again is power prices. Now Australians are using their power
Speaker 2: at a particularly cold time of the year. Winter means
Speaker 2: you end up backing on the heater, turning on the
Speaker 2: air conditioning in the exact same fashion without the heater. Instead,
Speaker 2: it's the fan and the air conditioner that goes during summer.
Speaker 2: And there's always this sort of tectonic debate at the
Speaker 2: moment about do we go for nuclear energy, which of
Speaker 2: course is the position of Peter Dutton and the opposition.
Speaker 2: They say it provides more reliable power, but of course
Speaker 2: it costs billions of dollars to build. And then of
Speaker 2: course there's the albanezy greens and teal position, which is, no,
Speaker 2: it should be more renewables, but they cost even more
Speaker 2: billions to build, in fact, close to a trillion dollars
Speaker 2: to build, and some of this stuff has to be
Speaker 2: replaced within ten.
Speaker 1: Or twenty years. And of course it's.
Speaker 2: Not good when it ain't shining and it ain't blowing,
Speaker 2: so you have to have something that is securing the grid.
Speaker 2: That of course is things like gas. But then lefties
Speaker 2: don't want that, So of course we're again in this fight.
Speaker 2: Now where what sort of energy system do we want?
Speaker 2: Do we want the one that's going to reduce something
Speaker 2: to do with like forty three percent of one percent
Speaker 2: of the global climate problem? Or China can continue to
Speaker 2: do whatever it wants with thirty times more pollution being
Speaker 2: pumped up each and every year, and of course they
Speaker 2: can keep increasing that number all the way to twenty
Speaker 2: thirty one.
Speaker 1: Where on one hand, behind our.
Speaker 2: Back, or is the suggestion again that we can go
Speaker 2: in the direction of nuculi. Now, as you know, the
Speaker 2: line out of the government is rather consistent here that
Speaker 2: we've picked a path and this is the only path
Speaker 2: that we can possibly do because if you go down
Speaker 2: the other one, the one that's currently powering the paras
Speaker 2: Olympic Games or the one that's powering the Los Angeles
Speaker 2: Games in four years time, well you'll have to pay more.
Speaker 7: Nuclear power is the most expensive form of new energy.
Speaker 8: And in Australia nuclear is too expensive and too slow.
Speaker 7: Taxpayers are going to pay for the most expensive form
Speaker 7: of new energy.
Speaker 9: Nuclear is expensive to build.
Speaker 10: They want a wreck investment and then charge taxpayers for
Speaker 10: the most expensive form of new energy that's available with
Speaker 10: their nuclear reactionary plan.
Speaker 2: Now, we could spend a whole hour talking about how
Speaker 2: many twists and lies we're inside all of that. Of course,
Speaker 2: there's plenty billions, billions and billions and billions of dog
Speaker 2: it's all off agit, meaning that we never actually see
Speaker 2: what the numbers are that are going to subsidize the
Speaker 2: creation of the renewable sector, because apparently once the renewable
Speaker 2: stuff is built, well, everything's going to be cheaper, right.
Speaker 2: The problem is it costs to trillion dollars to build it.
Speaker 8: Renewable energy is the cheapest form of energy.
Speaker 1: Renewables are the cheapest.
Speaker 7: Renewable energy is incredibly cheap. The cheapest form of new
Speaker 7: energy is renewables.
Speaker 2: Well, interesting today to see James Morrow writing an interesting
Speaker 2: piece in the Daily Telegraph, of course, the great man
Speaker 2: who often appears here on this program, and obviously you
Speaker 2: can see him on Outsiders in the US Report on Fridays. Well,
Speaker 2: he's got some data which is coming from the Red
Speaker 2: Bridge polling organization. This ironically is also the group that
Speaker 2: does a bit of polling for the Teals, So it
Speaker 2: ain't a right wing pole and according to research which
Speaker 2: has been done by red Bridge. Fifty four percent of
Speaker 2: all voters agree with the statement that labours rush to
Speaker 2: increase the amount of wind and solar is driving energy.
Speaker 1: Through the roof.
Speaker 2: Repeat, Fifty four percent of people believe the government is
Speaker 2: pushing power.
Speaker 1: Prices through the roof.
Speaker 2: Just twenty nine percent of labor voters agree that the
Speaker 2: government's tight timelines and high targets we're actually pushing up
Speaker 2: energy costs. It is seventy nine percent of Coalition voters
Speaker 2: and forty percent of Greens that are helping get to
Speaker 2: that number of fifty four percent. Remember, of course, labor
Speaker 2: only represents about a third of the vote. Fifty nine
Speaker 2: percent of respondents of households that have less than one
Speaker 2: thousand dollars a week coming into their house they also
Speaker 2: agree with the sentiment that the government is pushing up
Speaker 2: power prices deliberately and intentionally through their policies. Meantime, those
Speaker 2: with three thousand dollars a week coming into the house
Speaker 2: also a majority believe that the government is making things worse.
Speaker 2: So let's have a look again at the data. The
Speaker 2: data tells us that prices have gone up under this government.
Speaker 2: The data tells you that interest rates have gone up
Speaker 2: under this government. The data tells you the power prices
Speaker 2: have gone up under this government. So mum, you again,
Speaker 2: what's the point of this government? Oh, that's right, apparently
Speaker 2: it's to keep you safe. Well again, some more information
Speaker 2: about that. As you know, the High Court last year
Speaker 2: made its decision which was to get rid of indefinite detention,
Speaker 2: where previously Australia had been able to keep per people
Speaker 2: behind bars who weren't willing to leave the country, but
Speaker 2: we weren't willing to let them get new visas to
Speaker 2: stay in the country. But of course the response to
Speaker 2: that has been a disaster for the government, no matter
Speaker 2: what they say. As people were released from detention, we
Speaker 2: started to get information, some information firstly about the types
Speaker 2: of people that have been released, but then secondly the
Speaker 2: number of people who were going back before a court
Speaker 2: or again being accused of crimes like a person who
Speaker 2: had been led out of detention before again being accused
Speaker 2: of a violent bashion which took place in Western Australia,
Speaker 2: or what about this. For a number a quarter of
Speaker 2: the foreign offenders freed under the High Courts in z
Speaker 2: YQ ruling have been charged with the crime since their release.
Speaker 2: New figures have shown here that it's going to add
Speaker 2: some pressure to Tony Burke. The Australian can reveal that
Speaker 2: thirty nine, one hundred and fifty nine former detainees have
Speaker 2: been hit with criminal charges since the decision in November. Now,
Speaker 2: of course there's nothing to say here, just like how
Speaker 2: the economy is going amazing and the power prices are
Speaker 2: going amazing, and of course the reshuffle to move the
Speaker 2: minister responsible for the poor handling of this situation had
Speaker 2: nothing to do with the poor handling of the situation.
Speaker 2: Remember what the Prime Minister said, then why.
Speaker 4: Did you and.
Speaker 1: Because there's a reshuffle.
Speaker 2: But apparently the person who is the ultimate savior here
Speaker 2: the Arts minister. Yes, the aben eazy government is going
Speaker 2: to light up the person responsible for the arts to
Speaker 2: also be the person responsible for making sure that the
Speaker 2: people who have been already led out onto detention will
Speaker 2: or won't be wearing their ankle bracelets and all the
Speaker 2: rest of it.
Speaker 1: Do you have faith Yeah, me neither.
Speaker 2: As for the Rex situation, So what ended up happening
Speaker 2: since we came off air last night is that the
Speaker 2: Regional Airline has now been put into voluntary administration. What
Speaker 2: that means is the potentially hundreds of jobs are about
Speaker 2: to go. What it definitely means is that if you
Speaker 2: had a ticket going between all of the major capital cities,
Speaker 2: those are gone. Those flights have of course been canceled. Thankfully,
Speaker 2: the regional services are still continuing. So if you have
Speaker 2: a ticket to try to get from a place like
Speaker 2: Manauser to Brisbane, that will be honored tomorrow.
Speaker 1: He's part of the wide issue of what's going on.
Speaker 11: Rex Airlines has grounded its entire Boeing seven three seven fleet,
Speaker 11: which are boldly acquired during the COVID pandemic, effectively stopping
Speaker 11: services between major capital cities. Regional express flights which use
Speaker 11: sub three point forty aircraft remain unaffected now.
Speaker 2: As for the government, Catherine King, the Transport Minister, says
Speaker 2: they're going to do something. What that something is, who knows.
Speaker 12: Rex's continuation is in the best interests of regional Australians,
Speaker 12: the traveling public, its workers and the aviation sector more broadly,
Speaker 12: and the Government will work very closely with the administrators
Speaker 12: to insture a strong regional aviation presence in the future.
Speaker 2: Why are keep talking about this is because of course
Speaker 2: our commitmental Regional Australia GETTA everyone watching us on free
Speaker 2: to where they're Foxtell Flash or through the Sky News app.
Speaker 2: There's lots of people who do watch us and love
Speaker 2: what we have to do, that not just being this program,
Speaker 2: but obviously what we do in primetime in the channel
Speaker 2: in general. So I always want to make sure that
Speaker 2: we keep an eye on what is happening. And of
Speaker 2: course this is a very significant issue because, as we
Speaker 2: told you last night and thankfully some reportings followed up
Speaker 2: in the past twenty four hours, one of the key
Speaker 2: reasons why you need planes is because people need to
Speaker 2: be able to get to, among other things, specialist medical appointments. Again,
Speaker 2: the ABC had an interesting story today repeating some details
Speaker 2: about all of this that basically for people to get
Speaker 2: specialists to some of those hospitals or patients to the
Speaker 2: hospitals that have specialists.
Speaker 1: You need plans.
Speaker 2: Amazingly, though, some of the health systems that you would
Speaker 2: think would be in a bit more of a panic
Speaker 2: well are kind of sitting back and waiting to see
Speaker 2: what happens, including a statement which was offered the ABC
Speaker 2: where Newcipal's Health says it would continue to monitor the situation,
Speaker 2: feel free not to monitor.
Speaker 1: What about help Now?
Speaker 2: You know that we've been long supporters of Pauline Hanson
Speaker 2: on this program and her ability to speak freely. Whether
Speaker 2: you agree or disagree, to give her a chance to
Speaker 2: be able to speak. We have done so when she
Speaker 2: was running for the Senate, since she's been a Senator,
Speaker 2: and for a long period of time, always welcome on
Speaker 2: the program. Sometimes it gets a little bit late, particularly
Speaker 2: with these longer introductions, but she's always welcome on the program,
Speaker 2: and we very much like her. But I've got to say,
Speaker 2: if you need yet another reason why we like Pauline
Speaker 2: Hanson is because she is, in my I You're a
Speaker 2: very genuine person and a legitimately genuine person who I've
Speaker 2: seen with my own eyes in places like Birdsville, where
Speaker 2: a random person will come up and start raising a
Speaker 2: problem and she'll talk to them for a long period
Speaker 2: of time, and she doesn't just say thanks very much,
Speaker 2: get back to the advisor. She follows through Now. While
Speaker 2: again her politics may not be a cup of tea
Speaker 2: for everyone. The reason that I am a supporter of
Speaker 2: Pauline Hansen being part of our national political conversation while
Speaker 2: It was on show just a couple of days ago
Speaker 2: in an event for James Ashby, who as you know,
Speaker 2: is running for the seat of your poun at the
Speaker 2: Queensland election. There was this incredible act of generosity which
Speaker 2: came from the leader of one nation.
Speaker 1: A little girl needs.
Speaker 2: An operation so she can get the grommets removed from
Speaker 2: her ears.
Speaker 1: Guess who's going to pay for it.
Speaker 13: Senator Pauline Hanson promised to cover the surgery costs for
Speaker 13: a nine year old your Poon girl who's been on
Speaker 13: the public hospital waiting list for more than seven years.
Speaker 13: Sanator Hanson said she's discussed that Katie Burns has had
Speaker 13: to wait so long for treatment.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: The whole thing came as a surprise and it was
Speaker 2: part of a media conference which took place a couple
Speaker 2: of days ago up the coast.
Speaker 14: Straight Away I said, we're going to get this operation done.
Speaker 1: Cayli, you don't know I'm paying for it. I thank you.
Speaker 14: I'm going to pay for it, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: The reality from an awful lot of people in this country,
Speaker 2: particularly people that are in regional Australia, is that healthcare
Speaker 2: is incredibly complicated. It's complicated because of your capacity to
Speaker 2: get to and from places, but also the further you
Speaker 2: get away from the big cities, the capacity for your
Speaker 2: local hospital to be able to do so called elective
Speaker 2: surgery like making sure the little girl can hear, become
Speaker 2: so complicated that, as you heard in that story from
Speaker 2: seven News on the Sunny Coast, is that she's been
Speaker 2: waiting for seven years. Seven years that of course, was
Speaker 2: since the little girl was two, so she ended up
Speaker 2: going all the way through preschool pre Kindy kindy, and
Speaker 2: is now in primary school. But it is only now
Speaker 2: because somebody else is willing to pay in this case,
Speaker 2: specifically Pauline Hansen, that the little girl will get the operation,
Speaker 2: meaning she can hear. So I'm more than happy to
Speaker 2: speak warmly of a person who is willing to take
Speaker 2: care of people like this, not just with their words,
Speaker 2: with their advocacy, with their ability to get attention from
Speaker 2: the media, but also with their own money.
Speaker 1: World done, Pauline, World done, James.
Speaker 14: I'm very happy too that it's going to end this way,
Speaker 14: and that she's finally going to have a surgery and
Speaker 14: she's going to be able to live a life as
Speaker 14: a normal nine year old.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go there. It's late enough at night.
Speaker 1: We're all adults.
Speaker 2: We can all do this without giggling or getting smutty.
Speaker 2: But a simple question for you, do you believe that
Speaker 2: an adult club could end up being a tourist attraction.
Speaker 2: There is a warehouse that is about to be converted
Speaker 2: into some sort of adult leisure club I think they
Speaker 2: call it in Melbourne. Some of the locals are blowing
Speaker 2: up because there's a school two streets away, but still
Speaker 2: they're concerned that all sorts of unpleasantness may be walking
Speaker 2: in and out. But of course no one's going to
Speaker 2: be walking around nude on the streets. I'm not totally
Speaker 2: sure what the outrage is, but still A proposal to
Speaker 2: build a two hundred person swingers club in the heart
Speaker 2: of Melbourne sparked furious pushback from local residents and businesses
Speaker 2: have raised safety concerns for the fear of the neighborhood
Speaker 2: will become an epicenter.
Speaker 1: Of cedy sex establishments.
Speaker 2: But counselors who approve the development application for the on
Speaker 2: premises venue have hit back at the moralizing of those
Speaker 2: opposed to the plan, with one raising eyebrows after revealing
Speaker 2: several former Council members were known to attend a similar club.
Speaker 2: The proposal will allow two hundred patrons to be on
Speaker 2: site six pm and two am, seven days a week.
Speaker 2: That's what people want to do midnight on a Sunday anyway,
Speaker 2: but only twenty patrons will be allowed to be there
Speaker 2: during the day. There'll be six staff, there'll be security
Speaker 2: and there will be those people will be there during
Speaker 2: the quote unquote peak hours.
Speaker 1: Told you don't giggle, don't laugh. The organization that is
Speaker 1: planning to turn this facility into.
Speaker 2: A adult leisure center is Pineapple's Lifestyle Bar. There's so
Speaker 2: many things I could say, like the old Triple MDJ
Speaker 2: and he's got so many things to say, particularly about
Speaker 2: the Pineapples.
Speaker 1: But we'll look at the other way.
Speaker 2: And they, of course have responded to some of the
Speaker 2: outrage today and again Herald Suns on this The business
Speaker 2: said it expects patrons to travel from all over Victoria
Speaker 2: and Australia wide to experience the club, adding that they
Speaker 2: would likely stay the night in local accommodation and enjoy
Speaker 2: cafes and restaurants in the Melbourne in the South Melbourne
Speaker 2: Market area. See you to become a tourist attraction two
Speaker 2: hundred people between six pm and the early hours of
Speaker 2: the morning. It will entice guests to visit the region,
Speaker 2: creating new employment and generating benefits for the staff we
Speaker 2: hire and other businesses in the local area.
Speaker 1: And for research purposes only.
Speaker 2: I went on to the website of Pineapples and they
Speaker 2: have a countdown, and right now people are signing up
Speaker 2: for the chance to be first in line. So I
Speaker 2: asked the question again, perhaps in a rhetorical fashion, but
Speaker 2: if you'd love to send me an email, I'd love
Speaker 2: to hear your view. Could a place like Pineapples become
Speaker 2: a tourist attraction? We'll all find out together, won't we,
Speaker 2: which I think is part of their business model. But anyway,
Speaker 2: now let's get to the America presidential election. You will
Speaker 2: have heard an awful lot of.
Speaker 1: Headlines in the past couple of days which are Harris.
Speaker 2: Is surging, here, is surging there, surging everywhere. She's wiped
Speaker 2: out President Trump's lee. New polling is wiping it out
Speaker 2: in swing states. You've seen this probably a version of
Speaker 2: this headline for the past couple of days. It is interesting, though,
Speaker 2: that what is missing from some of this analysis. Are
Speaker 2: poles that have also come out today showing Trump's still
Speaker 2: in the lead. In fact, a pole that is done
Speaker 2: by Harvard University, that far right wing thing, actually says
Speaker 2: that it's Trump by four right now. But let's have
Speaker 2: a look at well the people who have decided to
Speaker 2: put money on it currently, they all still think that
Speaker 2: Trump is in front, not Harris. And also it's interesting
Speaker 2: to note that Nate Silver, who is the deep data guy,
Speaker 2: formerly a five point thirty eight, he now works out
Speaker 2: on his own but uses the same computer modeling that yes,
Speaker 2: was wrong in sixteen, but was right in eighteen, it
Speaker 2: was right in twenty it was right in twenty two.
Speaker 2: He says Trump has a sixty one percent chance of
Speaker 2: winning the presidency. If that's the case, it'll be fascinating
Speaker 2: to see whether all these new poles change any of that.
Speaker 2: But right now, the money and the data apparent only
Speaker 2: pointing Trump's way. But it's just the end of July,
Speaker 2: it ain't early November. We'll talk about it all with
Speaker 2: the wonderful Megan Kelly next.
Speaker 3: We've seen her enough those of us who are in
Speaker 3: political news and follow her closely to know she usually
Speaker 3: sounds moronic, she does. If you give her enough time
Speaker 3: to talk, she will confuse you with her word salad,
Speaker 3: to the point where you're not sure you and she
Speaker 3: speak the same language.
Speaker 8: Right, is it me or is it her?
Speaker 3: She's not particularly clever, she's not particularly likable. She's reversed
Speaker 3: herself on everything. She is a far left liberal from
Speaker 3: San Francisco.
Speaker 2: Bloody oath and a rock star is none other than
Speaker 2: Megan Kelly. She joins us a little later in tonight's
Speaker 2: show that has this the ding dong debate that we
Speaker 2: know you love each and every Wednesday night from and
Speaker 2: Bishop Stephen Conroy plenty the fire up about and the.
Speaker 1: Whole time I'll try not to ask about tourist attractions
Speaker 1: in South Melbourne more in a sick.
Speaker 2: Well, let's get it right now, carry over champ as
Speaker 2: always is Brodwin Bishop, and I'm sure Stephen Conroy doesn't mind,
Speaker 2: because he's always just.
Speaker 1: Here to help.
Speaker 2: Let's get into it. So the Reserve Bank, let's just again,
Speaker 2: who knows whether they're going to try to cover their
Speaker 2: backside because of course the government is againlessly talking about
Speaker 2: fiddling and reshaping it and.
Speaker 1: All the rest of it, or whether they follow the
Speaker 1: pattern of their.
Speaker 2: Previous decision making, which is, unless inflation is between two
Speaker 2: and three, then they're going to keep going up.
Speaker 1: What you got telling you, I'll hold They'll hold you.
Speaker 14: I always remember mister Kennedy, who's the head of Future,
Speaker 14: is also in that mix, and they meet. It ever
Speaker 14: was six weeks now, but I do think that it
Speaker 14: tells me they've missed this arise, for which they'll be
Speaker 14: very grateful. It just confirms what I've said since the
Speaker 14: Dunkly by election that they are getting ready for a
Speaker 14: nearly election. They've removed some barnacles, the got rid of
Speaker 14: O'Neil and Giles, and Tony Burk's been put in a
Speaker 14: position to sort of warm up the Muslim vote movement.
Speaker 14: He can't be asked any questions about the CFMU because
Speaker 14: he's no longer the minister and you can't do that.
Speaker 14: So barnacles have been removed to go to an election
Speaker 14: any time they want. And I don't think there's any
Speaker 14: suggestion that there will not be the likelihood of an
Speaker 14: increase later in the year, because in the next quarter
Speaker 14: the tax cuts and the electricity payments go in. They're
Speaker 14: not in this lot and that will push up inflation.
Speaker 2: So for you, Stephen, obviously you think that they've gone
Speaker 2: one too many, or maybe even too many, so you'd
Speaker 2: be hoping that again that the data means they don't
Speaker 2: go there. But obviously, if you're the Labor Party, if
Speaker 2: they can dodge one next week, then they've got a
Speaker 2: six week window to call and have an election if
Speaker 2: they really want to. If this is the central fear
Speaker 2: in amongst people. But are you laugh sir.
Speaker 9: Well, I'm I'm not sure Olbo is going to be
Speaker 9: taking advice from Bromwin about when to call an election,
Speaker 9: so I don't accept any of her analysis. You talked
Speaker 9: to you, you yourself, Paul earlier in your intro, talked
Speaker 9: about what's actually happening in the real world, the capita
Speaker 9: GDP figures, which are effectively in a recession. We've had
Speaker 9: unemployment going up, we've got inflation.
Speaker 1: Despite some bizarre.
Speaker 9: Commentary today from market economists trying to suggest inflation is
Speaker 9: still going up through the rest of the year, it's
Speaker 9: just not true. So the Reserve Bank should take a
Speaker 9: deep breath, admit that they made a mistake last year
Speaker 9: in pushing too hard, and to avoid making the same mistake,
Speaker 9: which is keeping interest rates too high for too long.
Speaker 9: They should actually reduce interest rates.
Speaker 14: Stephen, for heaven's sake, the Treasurer said that inflation would
Speaker 14: be down to three point five. It's three, it's three
Speaker 14: point nine or three point eight. The point I was
Speaker 14: making is in the next quarter.
Speaker 9: Treasurer said, by the end of the year it would
Speaker 9: be inside. It would be inside the two three percent target.
Speaker 9: That's what he said.
Speaker 14: I said today that the treasury projections were right. In
Speaker 14: other words, his weren't. But the important thing is that
Speaker 14: those tax cuts, which I've always said would not last
Speaker 14: till a May election, they go in to the next quarter,
Speaker 14: as with the electricity reductions or subsidies.
Speaker 9: I love conservatives who've suddenly discovered that the budget only
Speaker 9: has one side to it. Bromwin, I'm going to give
Speaker 9: you a hint. Jim Chalmers has had two surpluses, so
Speaker 9: that which take pro If you.
Speaker 14: Take if you take all the off budget expenditure and
Speaker 14: worked it into the budget, you would have one hell
Speaker 14: of a deficit. And the projection is that you just
Speaker 14: want to get after this year. And it's only had
Speaker 14: been able to put up this proposition of having a
Speaker 14: surplus because other people in the mining industry call for
Speaker 14: Heaven's sake and iron or have done a good job and.
Speaker 9: Ensure as part of the Australian economy. So let's be clear, Brom.
Speaker 9: There are two sizes for budgets. There is revenue and expenditure.
Speaker 9: The government can't it's very surplus. They can't Brown, Could
Speaker 9: you please just let me finish trying to let you finish? Really,
Speaker 9: I know that, but I thought i'd ask. I thought
Speaker 9: i'd ask. Revenue is outgrowing expenditure. That's how you run
Speaker 9: a surplus. I know you won't recognized one and previous
Speaker 9: government deliver one if you If you actually want to
Speaker 9: have some credibility, just try and say there are inflationary pressures.
Speaker 9: You could perhaps point to the state governments. What you
Speaker 9: can't go to is the federal government. What you can't
Speaker 9: do is say, oh, they're spending all this money, They're
Speaker 9: spending that money and still surpluses. It's never if you
Speaker 9: wanted to happen, any degree of credibility, any degree incredibility,
Speaker 9: somebody else's fault.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: And of course the only reason you have that you
Speaker 2: moved ministers in a reshuffle is because there's a reshuffle.
Speaker 1: There's no reasons for anything.
Speaker 9: They didn't They didn't move anybody in an economic portfolio.
Speaker 2: No, no, correct, But I'm saying, remember the spin was
Speaker 2: that there was nothing wrong in the portfolios, of which
Speaker 2: they did flip around anyway, all under the cover.
Speaker 9: We had a number of we had a number still
Speaker 9: had a number of retirements.
Speaker 1: Okay, a retirements.
Speaker 2: And you change the Immigration minister and you change the
Speaker 2: Home Affairs Minister. Which brings me to the single most
Speaker 2: moore horring topic that I have heard in the past
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, which is about who was responsible for
Speaker 2: the for the starting of the Home Affairs Department under
Speaker 2: the previous government.
Speaker 1: Oh was it a mistake to have her well, asked Brom.
Speaker 9: When asked Brom when she voted to make Malcolm Turnbull
Speaker 9: Prime minister, she might be able to help.
Speaker 14: All I can say ghost, All I can say about
Speaker 14: the ghost is who cares.
Speaker 1: Nothing about the ghost? Which were voted for him?
Speaker 9: I am much more concerned for Mark Latham. Mark Latham,
Speaker 9: you're voted for the.
Speaker 1: Ghost having his little.
Speaker 2: But again he's writing an opinion piece correcting another opinion piece.
Speaker 2: So my simple point is this, when a ghost complains,
Speaker 2: does anyone notice, No, Yeah, it's it's kind of it's
Speaker 2: it's done right like again. And this is the thing,
Speaker 2: you know, is always important when you're trying.
Speaker 14: More important to understand whether or not he's having tryed
Speaker 14: to have influence in the selection.
Speaker 1: Speak to Paul.
Speaker 9: Two of the three people on this show never voted
Speaker 9: for the ghast one did I wonder who it was?
Speaker 14: You can make up all your life, David, just make
Speaker 14: it up.
Speaker 1: Robin and I have long forgiven over this moment.
Speaker 2: But anyway, we've long pertofs matter on one side anyway,
Speaker 2: Oh God, love your well, Plade. All right, let's talk
Speaker 2: here about about the Rex situation. So Stephen, what does
Speaker 2: the government do here? Because obviously, again and I don't
Speaker 2: want to, I think that people are nice. My experience
Speaker 2: with the airline has always been amazing, and I'm not
Speaker 2: greasing them up because they don't.
Speaker 1: Have a business class, no special lounges.
Speaker 2: All right, there's no difference whether you're in run row
Speaker 2: one or six on the flight to Dubo. Okay, So
Speaker 2: what does the government do here? Because obviously it is expensive.
Speaker 2: The business decided to roll the dice and try to
Speaker 2: get involved in Sidney, Melbourne, Brisbane as a way of
Speaker 2: supplementing you know, Brisbane to Mount is So what does
Speaker 2: the government do here to make sure that people in
Speaker 2: Mount Isaac can still get a plane to Brisbane for
Speaker 2: heart surgery.
Speaker 9: Now, look, this is a serious issue for many across
Speaker 9: particularly regional Australia. I mean, as you said, the previous
Speaker 9: management and board have been dysfunctional for some time. They've
Speaker 9: made some quite bizarre decisions and they're paying the price
Speaker 9: for that. The market is already moving to create new alternatives.
Speaker 9: The government is saying it will work with whatever those
Speaker 9: alternatives are. I'm ensure those services keep going. And I
Speaker 9: think there's a little bit more to play out in
Speaker 9: terms of who wants to become a player in this
Speaker 9: particular scenario.
Speaker 1: It is just interesting.
Speaker 9: Government should be talking to a range of people about
Speaker 9: what are the options to keep REX or rex within.
Speaker 1: Alive.
Speaker 2: I agree, but I remember when it was virgin and
Speaker 2: Jim Chummers wanted to buy it.
Speaker 14: No, I think it'll be a private sector conclusion. I
Speaker 14: think those people who are writing that pac which is
Speaker 14: owed one hundred and fifty million dollars, will be the
Speaker 14: entity that will probably take control and the regional As
Speaker 14: I understand it, the regional aircraft business is in a
Speaker 14: separate corporate entity from the entity that owns the seven
Speaker 14: three sevens, which Virgin wants to take over to get
Speaker 14: it with their slots.
Speaker 1: All right, good, I think that's the way it's going
Speaker 1: to go.
Speaker 2: Excellently explained and a bit of fun in between. Well done, guys,
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, appreciate it. Thank you Broman, thank you.
Speaker 1: Steve and orlways here the whole pose of you. Quick
Speaker 1: break back with more none other than the great Meghan Kelly. Next,
Speaker 1: is Trump still winning?
Speaker 2: Yes, not a day goes by with not massive news
Speaker 2: out of the United States. And the best in the
Speaker 2: business is the wonderful Meghan Kelly. Her show has been
Speaker 2: amazing the past couple of weeks, and it's so good
Speaker 2: to be able to see her face to face via
Speaker 2: the Internet. Yet again, our favorite time of the week
Speaker 2: is to talk to her.
Speaker 8: Hello, mate, Wow, A lot's happening.
Speaker 2: Just like all day every day. So let's talk about
Speaker 2: JdE Evans. You did an excellent interview with him where
Speaker 2: basically you kind of offered the off ramps if he
Speaker 2: wanted to take it with the crazy cat lady stuff
Speaker 2: and said he doubled down. Also, correctly, you showed some
Speaker 2: of the context. He's not just talking about random childless people.
Speaker 2: He's talking about the types of people who end up
Speaker 2: running institutions, politics, media. But of course all of that
Speaker 2: context doesn't matter. It's just anyone without a child is
Speaker 2: a crazy cat lady. Outrage ensues. CNN has another bucket
Speaker 2: of new stuff that's happened in the past couple of days.
Speaker 2: Let's cut to the chase. You spoke to him. You
Speaker 2: looked into his eyes the same way that I do.
Speaker 1: You now, is he going to make it?
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's going to make it.
Speaker 3: Trump doesn't backtrack on big decisions like who his vice
Speaker 3: presidential running meet is going to be. And let me
Speaker 3: tell you, I've been through this long enough to know
Speaker 3: no matter who Trump's selected it, they'd be going through this.
Speaker 8: They would have found plenty of.
Speaker 3: Dirt on Doug Bergham, on Glenn Youngkin, on Nikki Haley,
Speaker 3: on Ron DeSantis, any of them would have been demonized
Speaker 3: in whatever particular way that they had a weakness on And.
Speaker 8: This is I mean his weaknesses go. This one's kind
Speaker 8: of pathetic. He said.
Speaker 3: Some prevocative things on cable he stirred that, you know what,
Speaker 3: to get attention on an issue, and was kind of,
Speaker 3: you know, pardon the term caddie about making his point.
Speaker 3: He's not the first to do that on cable news.
Speaker 3: I mean, look at the way Trump talks, and he
Speaker 3: got elected president. This is not a deal breaker for JD.
Speaker 8: Vance.
Speaker 3: The Democrats don't have a lot on JD. And they
Speaker 3: do consider him a massive threat given his genuine ties
Speaker 3: to Appalachia and the white working class, and they're trying
Speaker 3: to do their best to stir up hatred for him.
Speaker 3: Hatred I mean that's they just sent out a tweet
Speaker 3: saying he hates women. And why are they doing that?
Speaker 3: Because they've got to drive up their numbers with the
Speaker 3: women vote, and they are really, really hoping that Americans
Speaker 3: will forget that it is their party that's in favor
Speaker 3: of making women get punched in the face by maleboxers
Speaker 3: masquerading as females, by making our little girls go into
Speaker 3: locker rooms and see penises everywhere, by letting fourteen year
Speaker 3: old girls have their breast chopped off when they express
Speaker 3: a little gender confusion. But really, what's underlying it is depression.
Speaker 3: That's their party, and so they really want us to
Speaker 3: get upset over childless cat lady comments that JD said
Speaker 3: on a cable news show, leading us to believe he
Speaker 3: hates women and not them, not the ones who are
Speaker 3: actually chopping off the breasts of young girls who might
Speaker 3: be going through about of temporary blues that come with
Speaker 3: the onset of puberty. It's insane, and they have a
Speaker 3: compliant media who will push these lies as they push
Speaker 3: lies that, oh.
Speaker 8: Jade Vance, he's reversed his.
Speaker 3: Position on many, many issues from just eight years ago,
Speaker 3: and they'll trot out some trans friend of JD's from
Speaker 3: law school saying he's reversed himself on everything, just from
Speaker 3: money and power without calling to a tension. The fact
Speaker 3: that Kamala Harris has reversed herself in the past twenty
Speaker 3: four hours and at least four massive policy positions that
Speaker 3: would actually affect millions of Americans. It's incredibly frustrating. But
Speaker 3: it's our media, and it's a challenge that Republicans face
Speaker 3: every election cycle.
Speaker 2: Is the power of the machine as effective as it
Speaker 2: was in twenty or even attempted to be in sixteen,
Speaker 2: Because it feels to me like even in the New
Speaker 2: York Times poll, the number one source of people's news
Speaker 2: in that poll in the.
Speaker 1: US is social media.
Speaker 2: Now, by extension, I would suggest that that means YouTube
Speaker 2: shows and lots of other things that are not the
Speaker 2: traditional newspaper TV show. Do you think that we're dealing
Speaker 2: with a different market that is trying to play the
Speaker 2: same game.
Speaker 3: Look, they don't have anywhere near the power that they
Speaker 3: used to, but if you're talking about activating the Democratic base,
Speaker 3: they are still.
Speaker 8: Very powerful, very powerful.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was essentially the news media that got
Speaker 3: Joe Biden out of office, or at least out of
Speaker 3: his second term candidacy, and potentially out of office.
Speaker 8: We're not sure who's running the country right now. I'll
Speaker 8: get back to you.
Speaker 3: So they do have a lot of power when it
Speaker 3: comes to Democrats, and they're exercising it.
Speaker 8: They're energizing their base.
Speaker 3: They're trying to reach out to those independence are kind
Speaker 3: of split maybe fifty five to forty five Republican Democrat
Speaker 3: as a rule, you know, leaning, and they're trying to
Speaker 3: get those forty five incentivized to go out and vote
Speaker 3: for Kamala and try to rewrite her all of her history,
Speaker 3: so you can't write them off as feckless yet. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean compared to what they used to be in
Speaker 3: terms of influence, influencing the entire country, they're a shadow
Speaker 3: of their former selves. It's actually really kind of fun
Speaker 3: to watch them express frustration at the loss of, you know,
Speaker 3: holding the national narrative over these massive conversations. They can't
Speaker 3: stand the fact that JD. Vance came to me, for example,
Speaker 3: to have his come to Jesus interview after those cat
Speaker 3: lady comments blew up. They hate having to cite someone
Speaker 3: like me in the New York Times, which they did,
Speaker 3: because it's an admission that they don't have a monopoly
Speaker 3: on power anymore. And I noticed, like the Wall Street
Speaker 3: Journal they did a podcast about JD's comments. Did they
Speaker 3: cite his interview with me in which we just got No?
Speaker 3: They waited until he sat down with a Fox property
Speaker 3: Trey Goudy on Fox News and cited that because they
Speaker 3: really don't want to come to grips with the fact
Speaker 3: that their old model of business is dying.
Speaker 8: It's hanging on by a thread.
Speaker 3: But as I say, within Democrat circles, it's still alive.
Speaker 2: And well, what's your saints about how the election is
Speaker 2: being consumed by people.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's the summer, and in general,
Speaker 3: people don't pay much attention to the news in the summer,
Speaker 3: and that's.
Speaker 8: Not different now. I mean, it is the election cycle.
Speaker 3: So we're all getting bigger numbers than we would get
Speaker 3: in a non summer year. But I think the average American,
Speaker 3: the ones who are going to decide this election, they're
Speaker 3: outliving their lives, so they'll start to pay attention more
Speaker 3: in September. And then things are going to tighten as
Speaker 3: they always do, and they tightened already once Kamala Harris
Speaker 3: became the presumptive, but they're going to get even tighter.
Speaker 3: And we really have September in October to finalize the
Speaker 3: messaging around each camp, so you know we're going into August.
Speaker 8: July is basically over. That gives the.
Speaker 3: Camps one month to try to gear up their messaging
Speaker 3: and figure out what attacks are going to land and
Speaker 3: which ones they want to run with in the final whatever.
Speaker 8: Days of this election.
Speaker 3: But early voting is going to start as early as
Speaker 3: late September, and so you know, it matters whether people
Speaker 3: are paying attention and in those critical Swing States.
Speaker 8: It matters a lot. I think the problem for the
Speaker 8: Republicans right.
Speaker 3: Now is that she has such a short runway and
Speaker 3: that she's not going to be so battle tested and
Speaker 3: battle testing Kamala Harris would be a good thing for
Speaker 3: the Republicans. We've seen her enough, those of us who
Speaker 3: are in political news and follow her closely to not
Speaker 3: she usually sounds moronic.
Speaker 8: She does. If you give her enough time to talk, she.
Speaker 3: Will confuse you with her word salad to the point
Speaker 3: where you're not sure you and she speak the same language.
Speaker 8: Right, is it me or is it her?
Speaker 3: She's not particularly clever, she's not particularly likable. She's reversed
Speaker 3: herself on everything. She is a far left liberal from
Speaker 3: San Francisco. So if we give her enough time for exposure,
Speaker 3: the country will see that. The problem for the Republicans
Speaker 3: right now is they don't have it.
Speaker 8: They don't have said time.
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Speaker 8: Thank you, Thanks Paulicy Soon