1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Pit Talk brought to you by Shannon's. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: Cars are our passion, building, restoring or modifying. 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 3: It's about making it our own. 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: It's an obsession. Shannons know what it's worth. That's why the. 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 3: Agreed value includes all your modifications. 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: Get a quote online today. This is the moment, then, 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: that we've all been waiting for for in a romax. 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 3: Here comes Oscar past three, Lando Norris. 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: I aren't playing hardball out there at the moment. Steve 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: pipercheol Moment of twenty twenty. 11 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: Four, Hello and welcome to Pit Talk, brought to you 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: by Shannon's. On today's episode, Lando Norris swins the Monaco 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: Grand Prix to shave his championship deficit to Oscar Piastre 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: to just three points and did the new two stop 15 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 2: pit stop r all work at all in Monte Carlo. 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 3: My name is Michael Lomonado. 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: It's great to have your company and the company of 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: my co host, who, according to my parish notices is 19 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: Matt Quaeton. 20 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: Parish notices time rather than mentioned parish notices. Seriously, at 21 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: least this is an ongoing conversation thanks to our good 22 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: friends at Sky Sports. But yes, in answer to your question, 23 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: did it work at Monaco. No, but that would be 24 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: the world's shortest podcast. We probably need to elaborate. 25 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 2: At least another twenty nine minutes to feel so there 26 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: is a little bit more to talk about than that. 27 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 3: But there is, of course the result as well. With 28 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: Monico Grand Prix. 29 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: Forget the fact that the race is typically was typically 30 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: pretty straightforward. Lando Norris wonder and that is significant. His 31 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: first Monaco Grand Pritty victory, his sixth degree victory and 32 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: a really important one in the sense of this championship. 33 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: Actually less about him winning, although that does shrink the 34 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 2: championship deficit. 35 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 3: But I think, as I've been saying a lot, or 36 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 3: only eight rounds. 37 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 2: In, it's probably a bit too early to be counting 38 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: points if it's less than a Grand Prix worth of points. 39 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: But qualifying on pole, and you know, at a circuit 40 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: where it is such a pressure moment to take pole 41 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: position in Q three, got three laps to do it, 42 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: They're already good, They're already complete. 43 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: This felt like a very important weekend from that perspective. 44 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: For him, Well, he hasn't had much momentum for a while, 45 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: has he. So I think that qualifying in caps related 46 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: everything about his weekend that he had poll lost it, 47 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: reclaimed it. Fantastic last two or three corners of that 48 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: lap when you go back and watch the end of it. 49 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: And that's been a McLaren's strength a we year in 50 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: terms of being able to have enough tire life for 51 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: the final sector or the final couple of corners. We 52 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: saw that in Australia. I mentioned Australia because that was 53 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: the last time Norris looked like the class of the field. 54 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: Since then, Piastre has had a run of wins. We've 55 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: had various max Fistappen interventions as the season has gone along, 56 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: but this is the first time Lando looked like he 57 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: was bossing Formula One again. And so much of this 58 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: race obviously is one on Saturday, but coming into this 59 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,839 Speaker 1: weekend I wasn't sure that he was going to put 60 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: it together in that way on Saturday. Hugely impressive, but 61 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: in terms of redressing some of the momentum lost in 62 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: the series and also within his own team, really significant result. 63 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: And look, we're what one third of the way through 64 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: the longest season in the history of Formula One, as 65 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 1: we get told every year, so points tables as such 66 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: are not particularly relevant. What this does for momentum and continuity. 67 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: Getting him back to where he wasn't the beginning of 68 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: the season I think is almost more important. 69 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also interesting as well. 70 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: You know it was ahead of this weekend he was 71 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 2: saying that the problems he's facing with this car could 72 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: take him not weeks, but maybe even months to fully 73 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: understand and return to that kind of qualifying form Worth 74 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: noting that after qualifying he said, look, this is one result. 75 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 2: As important as it is, it's one we've got to see. 76 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: If I can do this at multiple races is also 77 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: one very particular circuit. But as I think Andrea Stella said, 78 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: the mclarentine principle, there is no. 79 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 3: Stronger validation than Monaco for if you. 80 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: Can qualify in formul one, qualify well and like you say, 81 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: there's three laps is something that almost would have been 82 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: unimaginable at any. 83 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: Week since Australia. 84 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: Yes, because it's those last tens of a second that 85 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: he just hasn't found, and on three occasions he found them. 86 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 3: I think this could be. 87 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: It's also very interesting because it feels like a very 88 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: asymmetrical result, doesn't it, Because it's Norris making a lot 89 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: of gains and that potentially being significant in the championship 90 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: is maybe being a turning point. But I don't feel 91 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: like we can necessar read anything negative in Oscar Piastre's 92 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: weekend here. Yes, it was a bit of a scrappy 93 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: build up, messy round, as he said. But while I 94 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: think it is fair to say Norris's execution you can 95 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: take away from this because execution is the same at 96 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: any track, Monaco feels so particular that I'm not convinced 97 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: we can say that Piastre has lost anything this weekend. 98 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, particular is the correct word here, because look, 99 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: in isolation, this is a terrific weekend for Lando Norris, 100 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, got back some of them are mentioned he'd 101 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: lost internally at McLaren since Piastre went on this run. 102 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: Because it is so particular, it's hard to really extrapolate 103 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: too much out of it in terms of what this 104 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: means going forward. I'm not sure this weekend bears no 105 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: relevance to any weekend, Let's be perfectly honest, even some 106 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: of the other tight street circuits we go to later 107 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: in the season, like Singapore, for example, Singapore and Monaco, yes, 108 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: they're both street tracks, but not all street tracks are 109 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: created equal. This is the outlier of out liars. I'm 110 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: not sure. Piastre was a little of percentage points off 111 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: where he has been and it's been at such a 112 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: high level now for so many weekends. You know, he 113 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: used the word MESSI it was a little bit messy. 114 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: He also did to finish on the podium for the 115 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: seventh consecutive GROWNDBURI, So this is what constitutes a messy 116 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: weekend now. So these are the margins we're playing with. 117 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: So Norris definitely rose to the occasion, but I think 118 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: we probably need maybe a greater sample size to see 119 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,679 Speaker 1: whether is he really back like the start of the season, 120 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: or is this an outlier based on track position, circuit 121 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: and just the peculiarities of the Monaco weekend because there 122 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: is nothing like this Grand Prix. 123 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 124 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 2: I like the idea that this could be viewed as 125 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: a leveler rather than a step forward for Norris and 126 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: now he's going to control the next furations. Obviously we 127 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe that's exactly what it will happen, but 128 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: I think it was easy to lose over the last 129 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: few rounds of the fact that these are two drivers 130 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: who are extremely closely matched, very different psychological makeups and 131 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: therefore some subtle differences in strengths and weaknesses. 132 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: But this should be a very tight battle between them. 133 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: We're now a third of the way of the season 134 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: and it's three points and it feels like that's about right. 135 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: But this is what I like about the way these 136 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: two guys go about it, and for anyone playing drinking 137 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: game at home with the podcast Styles make Fights, it's 138 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: one of my favorite expressions. I love the fact these 139 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: two guys have both got six Grand Prix wins now, 140 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: but you look at the way they go about it emotionally, 141 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: the body language of their cars have, the way they 142 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: deal with the press and the stress and the pressure 143 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: and everything that goes into making a Grand Prix weekend. 144 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: They come at it from such different angles a lot 145 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: of the time, racing the same car for the same 146 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: team and ending up three points between them and the championship. 147 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: It's almost a dead heater for eight rounds. It's going 148 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: to be the most interesting part of the rest of 149 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: the season for me. If they do have this baked 150 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: in car advantage, it's not going to be two guys 151 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: doing the same thing going head to head to see 152 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: who's better. I think they're both going to have their 153 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: strengths and weaknesses depending on the circuit and the circumstances 154 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: of the weekend. And yeah, the styles that each of 155 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: these guys employees is going to make this more interesting 156 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: as we head through the rest of the season. 157 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't feel like just because although this will 158 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: be something will come to later in future weeks, just 159 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 2: because McLaren feels like it's got the upper hand. 160 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 3: I think it could still be a really great championship. Doll. 161 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 2: I want to talk about Ferrari now, Charlie Claire second 162 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: best result of the year for him, for the team. 163 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: He was in this great mixed emotional mood afterwards. I 164 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: think after qualifying second and after finishing second recognize on 165 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: the one hand that this is much better than Ferrari 166 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: had been expecting that they've achieved so far this year. 167 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: But to finish second at Monaco is very difficult, especially 168 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: when he had that great breakthrough victory at this home 169 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: race last season. He is, I think, more than almost 170 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: more than any driver at any track, lifts higher. I 171 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: can't think of another driver who lifts higher for any 172 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: track than he does at Monaco because he was special 173 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: to watch this weekend, would have been a deserving winner 174 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: and he somehow manufactured that result. 175 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: But what do we take away from Ferrari for this weekend? 176 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: Because it was a high water make even Lewis Hamilton 177 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: finished so distantly in fifth, was still pretty competitive over 178 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: the course of the weekend. 179 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: It was a qualifying penalty that really affected his rates. 180 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,679 Speaker 3: Is this a good result for Ferrari? Good takeaway for Ferrari? 181 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: Look from how erratic that it's been. I don't think 182 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: you can look at this anything other than a great 183 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: result for the circumstances. We mentioned the word outlier. Leclere 184 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: is fantastic at this race track and there's an energy 185 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: to the way he does everything here. And it's so 186 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: interesting to see that home race pressure and what that 187 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: does to drivers. And we see it every year in 188 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: albert Park when we had Mark Webber or Daniel Ricardo 189 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: Oscar Piastri. There is something about a home race and 190 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: you remember going back f one and a bygone era. 191 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: Jensen Button was always awesome in Australia and terrible a 192 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: Silverstone and Mark Webber was the opposite. They wish they 193 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: could trade a lot of the time. But I love 194 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: Lacleur at this circuit because he does stand taller and 195 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: he does feel a sense of expectation with what he 196 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: wants to do. What can we take away with from 197 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: this with Ferrari? Look, I have trust issues. Perhaps it's me. 198 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: It's not you, it's me. I have trust issues because 199 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: every time we think we've got them figured out and 200 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: there's a trajectory there, positive or negative, they'll turn up 201 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: at the next Grand Prix and it'll be completely tipped 202 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: upside down. You look at where we're going in a 203 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: week's time. Is there a more different circuit than the 204 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: circuit of Barcelona? Cattle and you're for a Formula one 205 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: car than Monaco. I always think that the Spanish Grand Prix, 206 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: if there's an inherent weakness in your car, that track 207 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: exposes it brutally because of the nature of that layout, 208 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: and there's just nowhere to hide there. It's never a 209 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: particularly great Grand Prix, ReSpectacle but it's not a place 210 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: that tells any lies. And if you've got some issues 211 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: with your car, this place will expose them. And so 212 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: in answer to your question, I'm going to sit on 213 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: the fence for seven whole days here because if we're 214 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: still having a semi positive conversation after Cataloonia, then look, 215 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: maybe you know the thing that the light for Ferrari 216 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: is not the oncoming trainer at the end of the tunnel, 217 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: but Leclaire at this race track is special and you 218 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: have to think that when Lando Norris locked up into 219 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: turn one there, his eyes would have got very, very big. 220 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: It's like this Chad's to be a back to back winner, 221 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: but considering how bad he's luck usually is there, I 222 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: think the second place in the circumstances is pretty good. 223 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: Well remarkably just his second podium, yes after victory last year, 224 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: despite him being the three three time pole. 225 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 1: Well, he barely finishes a race there all last year 226 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: because it would always be poland then be some sort 227 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: of disaster where it didn't even start one year. I remember, 228 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: everything that could go wrong did so at least he 229 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: banished that last year and that was a hugely emotional 230 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: part of the twenty twenty four season. But as good 231 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: a weekend as could be imagined, but also not a 232 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: surprise because it's charlat Clerk and it's Monco. 233 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 234 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: At least the curse was broken by the victrinalistic and 235 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: aim for more than just finishing in the points of 236 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: finishing at all. 237 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 3: Before we move on, and I do want to talk briefly. 238 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: About Red Bull Racing because two teams came to this 239 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 2: track feeling pretty pessimistic. One was Ferrari and they ended 240 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: up having a reasonable weekend. The other was Red Bull Racing. 241 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 2: I think Max with Stappan got exactly what he thought 242 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 2: he was going to get out of this, which was 243 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: not a podium, a trying and a bold strategy that 244 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 2: didn't work. I think the evidence of this weekend for 245 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: Red Bull Racing, or the takeaway is that this car 246 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 2: has all the same problems as last year's car. Maybe 247 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: it's slightly more benign in some circumstances, but its weakness 248 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: in slow corners still exists cannot be ameliorated in the 249 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: same way. 250 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: Clearly Ferrari managed to do so at this. 251 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: Track, and I think we should be questioned about taking 252 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: it too much away from this weekend because it is 253 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 2: such an outlier. But this felt very validating for everything 254 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: we thought we understood about this car. It does it 255 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: will be an interesting piece to fit into the puzzle 256 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: of whether or not this championship campaign is real because 257 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 2: it does feel like that question we thought were getting 258 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: an answer to a Nimola Yeah, was put on ice 259 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: this weekend, and it's hard to know what to interpret 260 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: from it. Well, I feel like I understand Ferrari less right, 261 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: but I feel like I'm beginning to understand red Bull more. 262 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: This car does not like being monster over curbs. We've 263 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: seen that for. 264 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: The last couple of years, and you could see that 265 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: in the way that Max Stepan was trying to drive 266 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 1: it compared to the way Yuki Sonoda was trying to 267 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: drive it, and that's a separate conversation. Max has shrugged 268 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: his shoulders and said, well, this car doesn't like this, 269 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: I'll just drive around that, which is what you can 270 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: do when you're a four time world champion and pound 271 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: for pound, the best guy in the sport at the moment. 272 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: This was just a par weekend for them to see 273 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: a four time world champion for a team of that pedigree. Basically, 274 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: goal hanging for a safety car or a red flag 275 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: was a little bit undercoming quite franickly, but by the 276 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: same time, and what other cards did they have to play? 277 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: They weren't in the race with Ferrari. They went in 278 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: the race with McLaren. They had Mercedes had a weird 279 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: sort of weekend point this weekend, so they had them covered. 280 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: He did the only thing he could do in that 281 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to leave this second stop as late as 282 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: humanly possible. Something might happen, and if it doesn't, I'm 283 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: just going to finish where I was probably going to 284 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: finish anyway. So it was nothing ventured, nothing gained. But 285 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: I feel I feel we've got a pretty good hold 286 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: on what Red Bull is. Max will make that cargo 287 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: place as it probably shouldn't. Is it as bad as 288 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,599 Speaker 1: Sonoda's making it look? No, The sweet spot somewhere in 289 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: the middle, probably closer to where Max is. He's still 290 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: going to have tracks where his sheer ability and the 291 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: strength of that car and track position is going to 292 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: get him. He's going to be a disruptor where the 293 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: rest of this season goes. But I still think it's 294 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: a two driver to fight for the championship, with Max 295 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: being probably annoying to both of them at some point 296 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: through the back end of the year where he just 297 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: has awesome weekends that you can't explain well. 298 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: Like you said, I think Barcelona will be the limbus 299 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: test for so much of what we think we know 300 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 2: about this campaign. 301 00:12:58,679 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: So that'll be this weekend. 302 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: Before were on from Monaco, though, we've got to talk 303 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: about what was the talking point leading into this weekend. 304 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: This rule change to mandate two stops in Monte Carlo. 305 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: This was brought in. It was relatively recently he was 306 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: brought in, but it was in response the last year's 307 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 2: shocker of a race, when, of course that early red 308 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: flag went there were effectively no pit stops, at least 309 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 2: among the leaders of the top ten. Two stops mandatory 310 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: at least fixes that, because even if that were to 311 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 2: happen again, there'd be one more stop. It's probably worth 312 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: considering at the end of this that the top four 313 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: finished in grid order effectively the top ten did. When 314 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: you take out Fernando Lonso's retirement, Lewis Hamilton recovering from 315 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: the penalty you got after qualifying. Everyone finished pretty much 316 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: where they started, So in one sense you could say 317 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: two stops at the same track makes no difference because 318 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: it's at Monaco. We did, though, get this interesting battle 319 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: in the lower reaches of the points. Say battle, it's 320 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: probably not exactly the right word, it's not a race. 321 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: It wow, it's not a race. It really was a race. 322 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: The racing bulls started it with Liam Lawson backing up 323 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 2: the pack for Isaac Hadja to make his two pit 324 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: stops for free. 325 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 3: Essentially, William saw that and said, well a bit of that. 326 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: They did exactly the same, but twice as significant, because 327 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: then they swapped their cars and got Alex al wanted 328 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: to do exactly what Parlo Signs had done for him. 329 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: Mercedes then presumably would have found a way to double that, 330 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: but George Russell's brain just broke. I overtook alex Alban 331 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 2: I think it was all the time off the track, 332 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: and then copped a drive through penalty and thinks that 333 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: was better for him. 334 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 3: Anyway. 335 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: I'm not certain what to conclude from this. I've been 336 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: thinking about it all day. In some respects, all of 337 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: this stuff is pretty part of the course in Monaco, 338 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: but it felt much more exaggerated and much worse. 339 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 3: Or was it much better? 340 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: It wasn't necessarily much worse. It's just with the two 341 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: pit stops we had twice the opportunities to lament how 342 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: bad it was. Literally, that's literally I'm saying it normally 343 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: it's like, well there's only one stop and everyone's driving 344 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: around information, but at least we've got the stops done. 345 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: It's like we have to do this again. And so 346 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: you had two separate things going on. I think the 347 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: top four we're having a race much as they are 348 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: constrained by having a race in Monaco. And I'm not 349 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: sure what everyone else in the pack was doing because 350 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: you mentioned the Alonso retirement. Unlucky it's going Formula one 351 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: just yea, he should have scored points. He was fantastic 352 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: this week, Hare and Lewis Hamilton sort of settling into 353 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: where he probably should have been post penalty. But watching 354 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: what racing bulls were doing in that Liam Lawson literally 355 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: he may may as well have had a caravan on 356 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: the back of that thing, you know, not getting on 357 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: the on the hard shoulder, and Haja does two pit 358 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: stops and basically stays exactly where he is, and then 359 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: the domino effect that caused and William's doing it worse 360 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: but pointing at racing bulls that we'll get it first. 361 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: It people became a bit school yard, didn't it. But 362 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how you solved this because it's Monaco, 363 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: and it's Formula one. It's an outlier and it's great 364 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: that it exists, but it's also great there's only one 365 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: of them. But as a spectacle, normally you have a 366 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: slow car race at Monaco. I'm not sure anyone passed 367 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: about position five last night was actually having a car race. 368 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: It was a procession and the rules were being gamified 369 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: to a point that it actually kind of jumped the 370 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: shark a little bit. It got a little bit silly, 371 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: and George Russell just basically saying, I'm going to deliberately 372 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: overtake somebody and copper penalty, and surely that will even 373 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: be better than what I'm doing, because breaking his brain 374 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: is completely right. I can't do this anymore. I'm not 375 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: getting any points anyway, so I may as well have 376 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: some fun and try and do something and then copp 377 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: a very severe penalty for doing it. But look, it's 378 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: the nature of this place. The cars. Now. It's funny 379 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: because Monico's got this incredible history. You see old vision 380 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: of old Formula one cars around Monaco, when they were 381 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: lighter and more nimble and didn't just take up so 382 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: much real estate on the circuit. These cars now look 383 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: insanely big in some of these really really narrow parts 384 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: of the track. And we mentioned this last week. The 385 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: last five minutes of Q three is awesome too, that 386 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: because everything's on the line, you almost don't know where 387 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: to look. I'd actually almost one shot qualifying for Monica. 388 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: I actually wouldn't mind that everyone gets to go out 389 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: and does their lap independently without anybody else. That would 390 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: be awesome to be because I fe you miss a 391 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: lot of the stuff in qualifying in Monica. So much 392 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: going on. Yeah, the race, you'd be happy to miss it, 393 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: quite frankly, because once you get past the first quarter 394 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: and any potential jeopardy, not a hell of a lot happens. 395 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: But racing Balls saw the double pit stop strategy as 396 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: a way to really gamify this race and look full 397 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: credit to them, they qualified well and they scored a 398 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: lot of points doing it. Was it a great spectacle? 399 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: I would suggest not. 400 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was really interesting. To go back 401 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 2: to George Us, I thought it was very interesting that 402 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: the reason he overtook off the track, Yes, part of 403 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: this brain breaking moment, but he said, I just want 404 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 2: to have I just want to enjoy being at Monaco 405 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 2: because he'd spent the whole time in traffic and he'd 406 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 2: lost qualifying. I think that was also the critical part 407 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: because he had a technical failure at the very beginning 408 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: Q treies, so they didn't even have a real chance 409 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 2: to really open the taps and have a crack here. 410 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 2: So I'm just can I take it off the track? 411 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 2: I know I'm going to get a penalty. In fact, 412 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 2: teams were warned that if this exact scenario happened, it 413 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: would be more than just the ten seconds. 414 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 3: It would be the potential for a driver. So he 415 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 3: even knew that. 416 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: I'm doing it anyway, he said, The last twenty five 417 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 2: laps had great fun. 418 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. I was going to score points anyway 419 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 3: I could. Doesn't matter. 420 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 2: But I think that's important because even an ordinary and 421 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: now last year's is unusually bad. So let's just say 422 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: a normal bad race like the kind we had at 423 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 2: the very front. Yeah, were was sort of like bit 424 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 2: of tension, but nothing too serious. The drivers still come 425 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 2: out of the car and have enjoyed themselves. Because they 426 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: were at Monaco. They knew what they were getting themselves 427 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 2: into when they qualified. They knew that was where they're 428 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 2: going to finish, but they still enjoyed what the Monaco 429 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: race was, which is very which is unique and should 430 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 2: be unique. If drivers then get out of the car 431 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 2: and have had a really bad time on Sunday, then 432 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: the spectacle completely falls down because you can just about 433 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 2: stomach the race being bad. If at least the drivers 434 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 2: can express afterwards the challenge of staying out of the 435 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,719 Speaker 2: wall and of being relatively fast around the track. If not, 436 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 2: then it doesn't make any sense at all. 437 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: Well, the two Williams guys in the pen after the 438 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: race were so honest. I'm not sure that you know, 439 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: the organizers and the governing body would have loved it 440 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: all that much. But Alex Albom basically apologized, I'm really 441 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: sorry that you had to sit through this because of 442 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: the way we did it, but we had no choice, 443 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: and Carlo Science was similarly forthright with his comments. There're 444 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: two good guys to get a sound bite out of 445 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: in a situation like that. They're two grown ups in 446 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: the room. But even as they're doing it, I can't 447 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: quite believe we're going through with this. I also can't 448 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: quite believe that everyone's watching it. But I don't know 449 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: about you. We have this conversation every year with Monaco. 450 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: How can we fix Monocac? How can we fix Monaco? 451 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: You can't fix Monico. The only way you have a 452 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: different Monoco is if you don't have Monoco at all. 453 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: So you have to go into this weekend with the 454 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: lowest possible expectations that it's going to be anything other 455 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: than a slight variation on what it's been. And we 456 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: watch the cars go around, and qualifying's great, and it 457 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: looks great on TV, and there's some shots of the boats, 458 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: and then we all go to the next round and 459 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: you just have to see it as one round in 460 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: twenty four. You can't fix everything. It is what it is. 461 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: It's there for a reason. We move on. 462 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: I think the solution, if anyone for everyone is watching, 463 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 2: is genuine by the way you're doing the format exactly 464 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 2: as it is now. But then Sunday morning, after you 465 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 2: have qualifying Saturday night, you have your one shot qualifying 466 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: with just the top ten a little bit Bathist style, 467 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 2: except obviously Bathist gets its own day. But the reason 468 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: I say move that to Sunday is that at least 469 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: at the end of Sunday, the talking point is where 470 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: did they qualify because that's where they finished, inevitably, and 471 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: you get your one shot qualifying, which you spectacular at Monaco. 472 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: It makes Sunday more meaningful than just asking Christian Horner 473 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: why the track should be extended, which inevitably happens and 474 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 2: will never happen. So I think, do one shot qualifying, 475 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 2: make it Sunday, get more qualifying, which is what's good 476 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 2: about Monaco, more Bank fee Buck, and Sunday then becomes 477 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 2: meaningful because the race is You can put it in 478 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: brackets afterwards. 479 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: And you could say, well, why we're making an exception 480 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: for this one Grand Prix Monaco is an exception by 481 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: true the fact that it even exists. It's a two 482 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty kilometer car race. It's not like any 483 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: of the other races on the calendar. We're already making 484 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: so many concessions to keep this thing on the calendar. 485 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: So sure, let's have our top ten one qualify. 486 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 3: I think that's the one for it. 487 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: Let's run the track in reverse one year, let's go 488 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: completely let's go completely crazy, let's do something different because 489 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: it is a different Grand Prix. 490 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's that's all it needs to 491 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 2: be done. We don't need these extra stops. You can 492 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: keep it if you want. Maybe next year will be fixed remarkably, Matt, 493 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: it's time for Move of the Week, brought to you 494 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 2: by Shadons. Now we're going to transition soon to some 495 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 2: other sports, so I'm going to kick us off, and 496 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: this is less of a move of the week and 497 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: more of an appreciation of the week because I watched 498 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 2: back the Monaco Grand Prix. 499 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: Sadly you did. 500 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: Gabrielle bought a leto made an overtake on Andrea Kimi 501 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 2: Antonelli one overtake he did, and Niko Holkenberg overtook Yuki Sonoda, 502 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 2: both on the first lap. They're the only two overtakes 503 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: I could find. So they're going to share for me 504 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: the move of the week because they made overtake move. 505 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 506 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: Yes, Gabriel immediately ended up in defense after his but 507 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 2: you know what he tried first. 508 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: Tom Souber has been mentioned on this podcast possibly ever 509 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,239 Speaker 1: the greatest overtaking car in Formula One. 510 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 3: Yes, they got they were the only teams that moved forward. 511 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: On the first They had a crack. 512 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 2: They had a good crack and as a result, they 513 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 2: are my moves of the. 514 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: Week Moves Plural were speaking of having a crack. I'm 515 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: going two wheels here. You and I were messaging as 516 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: this was going on the Motor II race that the 517 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: British Grand Prix. Sylveston Sener Ags pulled the Stephen Bradbury 518 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: on the final lap of the Motor two race, made 519 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: the most of some silliness going on between Aaron Connett 520 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: and David Alonzo i'pen ahead of him, played the last 521 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: two corners of the final lap of the race absolutely 522 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: spectacularly and ends up becoming Australia's first intermediate class winner 523 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: since Remy Gardner five years ago. First Grand Prix win 524 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: for him and certainly won't be the last. He's nineteen 525 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: ags and there's just something about him, the way he 526 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: carries himself, how rapid the learning curve has been. We 527 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: remember him on the podium a philipp Island last year 528 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: completely out of mirror. This was that opportunistically brilliant win 529 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: taken from a position of composure. These are the wins 530 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: that these guys have that are going to make it 531 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: coming through. Fantastically opportunistic. Great to see an Australian on 532 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 1: top step of a Motor GP podium. Haven't seen one 533 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: for a while, but Move of the Week. I don't 534 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: know if it gets any better when you go from 535 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,239 Speaker 1: third to first with two quarters to go, will your 536 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: first grond brew. 537 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 2: I love that as well because some people think, I know, 538 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 2: when there's two riders or drivers battling, it's just easy 539 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: wait for to make a mistake. But you could really tell, 540 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 2: and this was a great example of it. 541 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 3: You've really got to. 542 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 2: Think ahead to make a move like that work. You've 543 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 2: got to predict what's going to happen, and he nailed it. 544 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: Well, and also knowing the personnel in that situation, like 545 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Connett is not going down wondering in that sort 546 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: of situation. He's not going to be bullied by an 547 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: eighteen year old kid that's come up from Moto three. 548 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: So you knew that Canett was going to very robustly 549 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: defend their last quarter, and I just knew the personnel 550 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: that was ahead of him and played it perfectly. And 551 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: he's a Grand Prix winner. 552 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 3: Yes, congratulations to him. Now. 553 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: In a related note, let's move to interested versus experts. 554 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 2: A lot of me being interested this week and you 555 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: being the expert because it was. There was no supercars 556 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: this round this weekend. Rather we've still got a couple 557 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 2: of weeks before the roundover in Perth. But it was 558 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 2: the British Grand Prix, British Motorcycle Grand Prix. It was 559 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 2: typically a British Motorcycle Grand Prix as well because yet 560 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 2: again not a repeat winner. 561 00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: Yes, but a lot of action. 562 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 2: It was NonStop, a lot to think about, a lot 563 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 2: to talk about. What were your take a love. 564 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: This is one of the most bizarre streaks in world 565 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: sport at this point. So Marco Betzeki wins that race 566 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: for a Prillia on Sunday night Australia. At the time, 567 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: that is the eleventh different rider to win the past 568 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: eleven British Motorcycle Grand Prix. It makes absolutely no sense 569 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: and coming into the weekend you would have thought, well, 570 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: surely this is the year that this gets overturned because 571 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: Aprillia hasn't really been anywhere this year, but Zaki joined 572 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: them at the start of this season hasn't been great. 573 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: Aprilia has been in the news for other headlines, with 574 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: Jorge Martin trying to get out of a Prillia having 575 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: not even completed a single race distance for them. 576 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 3: Yet I wonder what he was thinking. 577 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,959 Speaker 1: And so there's all this going on in the background 578 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: and then it's tenth on the grid. It was a 579 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: bizarre race wind but completely in character for motor GP 580 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: at this particular circuit, and it's funny Silverstone and that 581 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: it's a great layout for bikes with the high, high 582 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: speed sweeping corners. It's a bit of a long lap. 583 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: It's the longest lap motor GP, and I think whenever 584 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: you get motor GP laps that are starting to fall 585 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: into the two minute range, it's a little bit too long. 586 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: And you see it at the tracks where circuit in 587 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: the America is where F one goes. Silverston obviously met 588 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: British Grand Prix for F one, but as a spectacle, 589 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: this was the earliest this race has been held ever 590 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: since it's been at Silvers and it was in May. 591 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: Normally it's in August September. It was cold, so you're 592 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: talking fifteen degree ambients barely twenty five degree track temps. 593 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: It completely changed the way this race was won and 594 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: it was all about being on the correct tire, probably 595 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: the atypical tire at the right time. You needed to 596 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 1: be on a soft front tier here because it was frankly, 597 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: it was too cold for anything harder than that. But 598 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,959 Speaker 1: then you also had to live with the fact that 599 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: that soft front tire is probably going to go off 600 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: towards the end of the race. So you had this 601 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: real catamouse strategic race going on. Fantastic win for Btzeki, 602 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: but Fabio Quascerero and Yamaha the hardest of hard luck stories. 603 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: If anyone ever doubted this guy as an absolute top 604 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: liner in Motor GP three straight pole position as Yamaha 605 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: is starting to ascend again, that race was done. He 606 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: had a four and a half second lead twelve laps 607 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: into a nineteen lap race and was doing it with 608 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: a league in the air, and of all the things 609 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: to happen, rear ride high device gets stuck, can't disengage it, 610 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: and he has not won a race since midpoint of 611 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, and there's been a lot of reasons 612 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: for that that haven't been him. And so to see 613 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: him ride on the cusp of breaking that drought and 614 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: then having that taken away from him, Look, he was 615 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: absolutely devastated, as you could imagine. But I think if 616 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: anyone wondered where this guy sits in the top line 617 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: of motor GP riders on the current grid. He is 618 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: right up there that the Amaha project is really coming 619 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: along At the moment he will be in winning positions again. 620 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: But for a weekend that he dominated that race on 621 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: Sunday deserve far better. But it was just another subplot 622 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: in I think motor GP only does crazy races at 623 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: the moment. It seems that, you know, we're talking about 624 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: France last week with jons Arko winning every second race 625 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: seems to be completely nuts at the moment. It's great TV, yeah, 626 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: but a bit of variety at the front end of 627 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: the championship and I'm here for it. 628 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 3: Yes. Well, I was a very exciting point just before 629 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 3: he crashed, I suppose, but there were. 630 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: No de Caffies on the podium well, and because we 631 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: had a restart and race. I think that was part 632 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: of what I was saying before about being on the 633 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: correct tie there, because we had a race that was 634 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: abandoned on the second lap after we had both Marquez 635 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: brothers down in the first two laps and then a 636 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: bike on fire and oil all over the track in 637 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: the last couple of corners. That prompted the red flag, 638 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: so the Markeu's brothers effectively got to do over little 639 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: known ruling motor GP. If there is a red flag 640 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: within the first three laps, all riders can take the restart, 641 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: and so that's something a lot of people were saying, 642 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: why these guys back in the race like anyone that 643 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: had crashed out in those first two laps, and there 644 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: were a few of them, They effectively got a hard reset. 645 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: So you know, Mark Marquez actually extended his championship lead 646 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: through all of the silliness on Sunday at Silvestone admitted 647 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: afterwards he got very very lucky, finished third. Not a 648 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: particularly good weekend for him, but these are the weekends 649 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: where you just stack points relative to your rivals and 650 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: they all count towards the end of the year. But 651 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: suitably bonkers at Silveston and a very enjoyable Yes, sales man, 652 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,479 Speaker 1: as ya as you say, this year reliably has been. 653 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 3: Yes, it is very exciting. 654 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 2: Let me very briefly engage your interests before we wrap 655 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 2: this one up, because it wasn't a supercars on the weekend, 656 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 2: but there was news that there will be two races 657 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 2: in New Zealand for the international expansion. 658 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 3: We consider New Zealand international. Of course it is a 659 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 3: different country. 660 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 2: Continues and it sounds like it will be back to 661 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: It will be a double headed they will be obviously 662 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 2: right alongside each other, because why would you go all 663 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 2: the way there to come back and go back and 664 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 2: go back again. 665 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 3: Yes, but it sounds like it will be. 666 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 2: It's being billed by ceoshanaw it as a fortnight two 667 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 2: weeks of supercars mayhem on the North Island and the 668 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: South Island. So we're looking at probably consecutive weekends, which 669 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 2: would be very exciting. Doesn't normally happen in supercars. I'll 670 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: be interested to say, well, first of all the response, 671 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 2: I mean, this is now a nationwide thing for New Zealand. 672 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 3: Both islands are covered. But also the. 673 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: Response in how that back to back is handled, because, 674 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: like I say, supercars doesn't do it that often. No, 675 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 2: what's that going to mean from momentum? If we're going 676 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: to have the same race formats next year, that's six 677 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: races in it'll be less than it'd be about eight days. 678 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 2: I suppose it's a lot of racing in a few days. 679 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 2: How are you bounced back? What if there's a big crash, 680 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 2: you're very far away from home in New Zealand, especially 681 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: if the cars are all being taken by boat. 682 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 3: Again, like logistically is very interesting. 683 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: It's great for New Zealand, and I think it's great 684 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 2: for supercars because while there's been a lot of talk 685 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: in the last few years, let's say about really sending 686 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: it overseas to Asia whatever, I think we're going to 687 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 2: expand anywhere, first, it's got to be in New Zealand. 688 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 3: The fan base is pretty big there. 689 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 2: We've got plenty of kiwee drivers, Matt pain foremost among 690 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 2: them at the moment. Great legacy obviously New Zealand's well, 691 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 2: great history in New Zealand. 692 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:33,959 Speaker 3: They needed more than one. 693 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 2: They deserved more than one race, and it's really great 694 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: that this has now come about and it's going to 695 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 2: be I think a really interesting little experiment to be 696 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: racing that much overseas, all in one block, all in 697 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: such a short period of time. 698 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: I like it from the perspective of the Aussie fans 699 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: in the air, you were thinking of potentially going over 700 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: to see an international race, and that was one of 701 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: those things. Look, it's only just that weekend. Can I 702 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: justify the cost. You can go over there and lock 703 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: into this festival. It's going to be over there for 704 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: a couple of weeksbsolutely justify the span. It'd be really 705 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: interesting to see what the Australian fan contingent that goes 706 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: over to see this, because that's now a significant carrot. 707 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: See two different parts of the country, two different racetracks 708 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: within a ten day period. It's a lot of racing 709 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: to enjoy. I could see there being quite a tourist boonsh. 710 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely topor obviously already touristy. And then christ Church 711 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: continues to rebuild. I guess after the earthquakes. I was 712 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: there only last year. I think beautiful part of the world. 713 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 2: I mean New Zealand is part of the world, but 714 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 2: christ Church in that South Island area particularly so tracks 715 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 2: right near christ Church, so I think it's only fifteen 716 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 2: kilmeters away or something like that, very close. 717 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 3: I would be a great trip. Now you got me thinking, 718 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 3: maybe do you think about going to New Zealand? 719 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: Maybe you should go hit talk on the road. 720 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 3: I look, Shannon's want to support it. I'm all for it. 721 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 3: Let's trap this one up. 722 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: Matt with a crystal ball by complete Home filtration in 723 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 2: the middle of an F one triple header. A bag 724 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 2: of JP races are flowing now, supercars not trying away? 725 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 3: What are you thinking? 726 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to get a little bit naughty here. My 727 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: crystal ball tells me that Isaac Hajar is going to 728 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: be mentioned as a Red Bull racing driver gossip very 729 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: very very soon, and all jokes aside because he's performing 730 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: were Lee Lawson didn't and Yuki Sonoda isn't. Isaac Hajar 731 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: has massively surprised me this year in that I thought, 732 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: of all the rookies this year, he was the one 733 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: that was probably going to have the most crash damage 734 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: and was going to be the most erratic. He's been. 735 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: He's ticked every box for me. He's been very very good, 736 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: surprisingly calm, taken every opportunity and yes, we talked about 737 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: the Monaco confluence of circumstances, but he was there to 738 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: be the beneficiary of that strategy. And look, who on 739 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: earth knows what's going on with Red Bull second driver? 740 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: Do they know they've got a second driver? Do they 741 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: even care they've got a second driver? But right now, 742 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: of the three other Red Bull back drivers on the grid, 743 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: he seems to me to be the most qualified to 744 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: be Max Fastavan's teammate, which is also a poison chalice, 745 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: so you've got to be careful what you wish for. 746 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: But I think very soon we're going to see some 747 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: serious conversations about Hajar potentially being in that car because 748 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: quite frankly, the two guys that have been in it 749 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: this year, I'm not delivering. 750 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 2: I mean, this is such a big talking point, I 751 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 2: can't complete it right back, no point. But all I 752 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 2: would say is that we were saying the same thing 753 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 2: about Yuki Sanoda about a month ago when he was 754 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 2: at racing points. So I think the problems are really 755 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 2: big at Red Bull Racing. I'm going to stick with 756 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 2: the Red Bull Racing for my prediction. Something we haven't 757 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 2: talked about this week, but we will debrief next week 758 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 2: is that there are some rule changes coming or all 759 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 2: the reinterpretations coming this weekend to the flexibility of front wings. 760 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: All very exciting and technical, But Red Bull Racing has 761 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 2: been telling us or hinting non stop for a month 762 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 2: that this is the thing, this is what's going to 763 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 2: break this Championshi Open. 764 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 3: They're going to be back after this rule change. 765 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 2: It brings McLaren back more than it brings back any 766 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 2: other team. I'm going to say McLaren's going to win 767 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: by sixty seconds, not sixty seconds. They're going to win comfortably, 768 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 2: and then Red Bull Racing is going to have to 769 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: come up with some new reasons as to why the 770 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 2: car is not quite there. 771 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: Well, we mentioned before that Catalonia is this great litmus 772 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: test of what Formula one car can do. We often 773 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: get really dominant wins there. You think back in the 774 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: Mercedes domination, they would absolutely demolish everybody. Whichever team has 775 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: got the car in the sweet spot. It tends to 776 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: be magnified at this particular track. So if McLaren, even 777 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: with this new technical directive, come out and demolish everyone 778 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: this weekend, then Christian Horner's press debrief will be a 779 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: manage reviewing. 780 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 2: Go think yeah, I think so. I'm looking forward to it. 781 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 2: That's all the time. We have a pit talk today. 782 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: You can subscribe to pit talk where if you get 783 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 2: your favorite podcasts and you can leave us a rating 784 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 2: and review as well. This weekend it is the Spanish 785 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 2: Formula one Grand Prix. 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