1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Good day. Thanks so much for listening to the show. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,199 Speaker 1: This is Better than Yesterday. Useful tools and useful conversations 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: to help make your day to day better than yesterday. 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: Every week since twenty thirteen by names Osha Gainsburg. And 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: I'm very, very grateful that you're here. I am very 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 1: grateful and very happy that a few nights ago in 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: the city of Melbourne, Australia, seven time world champion Lane Beachley, 8 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: the surfing legend icon Lane Beachley was honored for her 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: pivotal contribution to the world of surfing when she was 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: awarded the Dawn Award as in Dawn Fraser at the 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: Sport Australia Hall of Fame Awards in Melbourne. The Dawn 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: was introduced to these awards a couple of years ago, 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: honoring down Fraser, who's a patron. It recognizes a person 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: or a group that has shown courage and bravery that 15 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: has changed their sport for the better and Lane Beachley 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: is an incredibly well deserving recipient of this awards and 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: because of it, I felt it was a perfect time 18 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: to take a moment and revisit When Lane Beachley came 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: on the show, she is one of the most successful 20 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: female surfers in history, and she is the only surfer 21 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 1: male law female to win six consecutive world titles between 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight and two thousand and three. She added 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: a seventh world title in two thousand and six before 24 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: retiring in two thousand and eight. Her journey is incredible. 25 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: It's one of resilience, focus of a fierce mindset that 26 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: has inspired countless people in and out of the water. Today, 27 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: there's a couple of great moments from that full conversation, 28 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: Lane really reflecting on overcoming fear, how much she advocates 29 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: for equality and surfing, the lessons that she's learned about 30 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: preparation for a big event, for whatever. And we're going 31 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: to start with her experience of overcoming fear and reframing 32 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: that fear as a tool for growth, kind of like 33 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: almost in a way, using the technique of exposure therapy 34 00:01:55,440 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: to help her conquer the world's most dangerous waves. I 35 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: was lucky enough to witness one of the competitions that 36 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: Lane competed in during her two thousand and three world 37 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: titled run at the Billabong pro in Tahiti, at a 38 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: wave called Chopoo so let me describe shop before you. 39 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: If you ever been dumped by a sure break, you 40 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: know when it comes up like a wall and then 41 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: smashes down what It just picks you up doesn't care. 42 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: The ocean doesn't care what you want to do. It's 43 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: got enough power to squish you on the sand like 44 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: a bug. Now, just imagine that wave that dumped you 45 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: is as tall and as round as a subway tunnel, 46 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: and instead of breaking onto sand, it's breaking onto raise 47 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: a sharp coral reef chopoo. Looks like a wave that 48 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: a teenager would doodle in the margin of their maths book. 49 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: And it looks like that because of the reef below 50 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: it that causes the ocean to break above it in 51 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: that particular way. But that reef is an absolute death trap. 52 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: People have died there and Lane Beachley has paddled into 53 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: that wave many many times. The contest that I saw 54 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: scheduled the women's heats to run when the swell was 55 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: coming from a very dangerous angle. So the break was 56 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: a very quick break and it was dumping. 57 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: Quite a lot. 58 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: In one heat of the women's competition, we watched from 59 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 1: the shoreline as no people paddled out into the wave. 60 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: It was just too dangerous. Later in that day, when 61 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: the swell swung around, they ran the men's heats, which 62 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: is pretty ordinary, you know, waiting for the better conditions 63 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: to run the men's competition. And I wanted to get 64 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: Lane's thoughts on competing in a situation that is just 65 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: so dangerous. 66 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: And this reef is not only that jagged and sharp 67 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: with fire coral, so it burns you and grapes you. 68 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: And the boy suggested it was too shit for us. 69 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: You guys keep going for it, you know, I we'll 70 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: send the girls out. And it was so dangerous, so 71 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: unethical to send us out there, Like, it's just unacceptable 72 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: that we surfed it. But we felt like we had 73 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: no choice, so we just endured it. And that's what 74 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: we did, year after year after year. 75 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: We just copped it. Turns of ships and the girls out. 76 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: So quite insulting now we look back on it, so 77 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 2: fortunately things have changed and the girls don't have to 78 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: endure that anymore. How is it different now, Well, now 79 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 2: they have a commissioner that represents the women's tour and 80 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 2: a commissioner that represents the men's tour. They have a 81 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 2: governing body that wholeheighedly support and value female athletes. They 82 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 2: provide them with equal opportunity to serve in the equal 83 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 2: conditions in equal locations. And they don't cancel events to 84 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 2: save money to inject them to the men's tour, which 85 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: is what they used to do to usk cancel our 86 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: events to inject them the money back into the men's right. 87 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: I guess it was things like that, because I vaguely 88 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: recall the final or one of the heats on this year, 89 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: because me and Jacko were out in the boat watching 90 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: it happen, and we watched a whole heat go by, 91 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: and by then it wasn't three people in a heat, 92 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: it was two people in a heat. I can't remember 93 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: where it was. But no one paddled into a sat. 94 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that happened quite often because the girls were 95 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 2: that shit scared, but they did not want to embrace 96 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 2: their fear. 97 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: They did not want to threaten their own lives. 98 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: Chopu was a venue that very few girls embraced, let 99 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 2: alone wanted to go to. And I must admit it 100 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 2: to get the shit out of me too, But for 101 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 2: me to succeed and become the champion that I. 102 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: Vowed to become or decreased. 103 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: Then it was important for me to embrace those fears 104 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,559 Speaker 2: and overcome them. So I made friends with the reef 105 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 2: by first cutting myself on it many times, and then 106 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: taking off my leg rope and allowing my board to drift, 107 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: and then diving down and just exploring it and getting 108 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 2: familiar with it. And then I was able to make 109 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: friends with it, and then. 110 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 3: I stopped fearing it. Then I stopped hitting it until, of. 111 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 2: Course, we were sent out intent footspirf when it was 112 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: west and that was inevitable to hit it. 113 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: Hang on a sex take me through that, because this 114 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: is it sounds to me like you're describing the kind 115 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: of thing that my shrink makes me do when it's 116 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: exposure therapy time. 117 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 3: Oh they don't shock you or something. 118 00:05:58,600 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: No, no, No. 119 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: Exposure therapy as a compulsive disorder as one of the 120 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: things that's going on with my head, and exposure therapy 121 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: is a very successful way to treat that. It's very uncomfortable. 122 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: It's very uncomfortable. You just have to learn with you 123 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: learn to be with the discomfort of the thing, all right, 124 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: You learn to be with discomfort of Yeah. 125 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: Bently exposing yourself to it. 126 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, in the same. 127 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: Well, I've subconsciously learned exposure therapy without actually being put 128 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 2: through therapy. 129 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: She's such an extraordinary athlete. That approach to fear and 130 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: using fear for her own benefit is a powerful reminder 131 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: that growth, growth often always growth will come from discomfort. 132 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: Growth is a response to stress. The way that Lane 133 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: can embrace that danger and the uncertainty surfing some of 134 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: the world's most treacherous waves is a testament to her resilience. 135 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: You and I don't We don't need to paddle into 136 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: Chopu on a heavy west and swell. But this mindset 137 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: that she's talking about, that's something that we can all 138 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: apply to our own challenges, whether it's a daunting task, work, 139 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: or some sort of thing in our relationship that we 140 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: need to confront. As you've just heard, the conditions that 141 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: Lane was competing and were far from equitable to the 142 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: men's contest, and unfortunately, so was the prize money. Lane 143 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: Beachley has been a trailblazer not just in surfing, but 144 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: also in advocating for equality in the sport. When did 145 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: you first realize the disparity between the prize money and 146 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: when did the first time he went hang on a second. 147 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: That's the same one. 148 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: When I joined the tour in nineteen ninety. Yeah, yeah, 149 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 3: it was shiit. I mean it was ridiculous. How much 150 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: was I don't know. We didn't record the prize money. 151 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: I should have done that in my book, my ledger, 152 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: I've got my first ledger. But the prize money disparity, yeah, 153 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: became very clearly apparent from the start. Yeah. And also 154 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: the sponsorship dollars and opportunities for life after sports that 155 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: became very apparent. The representation, the opport to compete in 156 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: the reasonable conditions, the support of the governing body, like 157 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: all of it was very focused and catered towards the man. 158 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 3: Women where were just the sideshow. 159 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: We're just going to take a quick break from Lane 160 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: Beachley before I play some ads. I'd just like to 161 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: remind you that the story Club YouTube is live and 162 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: up now. The linker is in the show notes. 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We're just revisiting the 171 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: full conversation I had with Lane Beachley a little while back. 172 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: You can find it in the show feed if you 173 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: want to scroll back. Lane Beachley has won seven World 174 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: surfing titles. It's a huge achievement. But it wasn't always 175 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: that way. She wasn't always a champion. For many years, 176 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: Lane was consistently coming in second. She was up there 177 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: on the podium, yes, but she was in number two 178 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: when it came to her world titles. I wanted to know, 179 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: how does it affect you when you are turning up 180 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: and showing up and paddling in and putting in your 181 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: best and you're at number two again and again and again. 182 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: What do you learn about consistently being number two? A. 183 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: I'm really surprised I haven't been asked this question before, 184 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: but I love it because there's so many valuable lessons 185 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: I learned from being number two in the world. 186 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: Number one. 187 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: Was I passionately disliked coming second? I loved winning, and 188 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: so I saw coming second as an absolute failure. And 189 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: that was because my whole sense of self worth and identity. 190 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 3: Was wrapped up in it. Number two, I. 191 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: Learned that I actually had a fear of success, and 192 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: that was a really valuable lesson. And it wasn't until 193 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: I came second the second time that I thought, Okay, 194 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: what's stopping me, what's getting in my way? 195 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 3: And then I realized it was me. It was me. 196 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: It was getting in my way because I judged success 197 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: as being put on a pedestal and being rejected, because 198 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: that's how I judged successful people. So therefore I feared 199 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: being rejected and I feared being put on a pedestal, 200 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: so therefore I feared success. So they were the two 201 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: main lessons that I learned from coming second. 202 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: Wow, So the thing that was keeping you from winning 203 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the surfboard or. 204 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 3: The wave or the water, no, nothing at all. 205 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: Listening to Lane is so inspiring. It really reminds me 206 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: of the importance of assistance and of self reflection. Lane's 207 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: ability to think about her setbacks and use them as 208 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: a stepping stone really a stepping stone on the way 209 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: to success. That's something that we can all take away today. 210 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: It's no surprise that Lane Beasley was awarded honor at 211 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame Awards the other night. Her story 212 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: is full of resilience, of courage, and of determination, from 213 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: overcoming fear to advocating for equality, making the competition better 214 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: far after she was going to retire, just making it 215 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: better for people in the future. And really how much 216 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: she prepared, how much work she put into prepare for 217 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: each competition and each day. There's really valuable stuff in 218 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: and listening to that and the proofs in they're putting, 219 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, seven world titles, six in a row. No 220 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: one has ever done that before or since. It's a 221 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: great conversation. Lane Beachley is an absolute inspiration. The full 222 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: chat is well worth it. You can scroll back in 223 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: the podcast feed to check it out. Thank you so 224 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: much for listening to the show. If you liked it, 225 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: please share it, Please subscribe, rate, follow, do all those things, 226 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,599 Speaker 1: Send it to a friend. Thank you to Addam A 227 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: Buncher for chopping up this episode. I'll see you back 228 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: here on Wednesday.