WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 8 October 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:06.880 From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Thank you, 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:09.960 sharing again an excellent hour of television. Congratulations to her 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:12.000 and the team that's putting it together both over there 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:15.040 and here. Welcome to a show where we don't muck around, 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:17.279 We don't miss the point. We go straight after it 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:20.320 each and every night. And one of the weirder moments 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:22.799 of American politics of the past couple of years was 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:27.080 an obvious low point for Donald Trump when he was 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:31.440 considered to be mocking a disabled reporter during the twenty 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:35.400 sixteen campaign. Written by a NASA reporter. Now, the poor guy. 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:36.159 You got to see this guy. 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:39.080 Oh, I don't know what I said. Ah, I don't remember. 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:42.559 He's got like I don't remember. Oh, maybe that's what 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:45.720 I said. Here's fourteen years ago. He's still They didn't 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:46.480 do a retraction. 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.760 Well, a version of it has happened in Australia today 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:53.280 and it comes from no less a figure than the 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:57.720 Australian Prime Minister. In question time today, things were heated, 0:00:57.760 --> 0:00:59.920 things were back and forth, and there was an exchange 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:05.959 where the Shadow treasurer Angus Taylor was speaking while Albernizi 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:09.479 had the microphone interjections and nothing new in the Australian 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:12.840 political vernacular, but it was well and truly on show today. 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:20.840 What you see is the Prime Minister mocking disability, the 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:25.399 idea that where have you got Tourett's. 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:25.760 Or something. 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:33.200 You know, you know, you see there, babble babble, bab order. 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:36.440 I we draw, Missus Speagher, I we draw, we draw, 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:40.039 I we draw and apologize. 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:44.000 Now this bloke is so high on his own supply 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:46.840 that he thinks that he can punch down in that fashion, 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:52.080 that somehow Turetts is something that he could mock publicly. 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:53.760 Now this is the bloke who was, of course from 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:57.640 the woke side of the woke political spectrum, yet he 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.480 decided to do that as a way of littling and 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:05.480 potentially dehumanizing his political opponents. Now I want you to 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:09.120 watch this time, the same clip but no sound, because 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.280 have a look at the different reactions that take place 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:14.919 when the Prime Minister makes his statement. Firstly, you can 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:18.840 see the Deputy Prime Minister who realizes that this is 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.200 not a great moment. And then on the other side 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:22.840 of things, if we can roll at one more time, 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.000 you can see Annli who's going to be sitting there 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:28.000 on the right hand side. Now, she is a minister 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.680 who often sits behind the Prime Minister to sort of 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:34.040 be this performance puppet behind him, going oh, who's in 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.480 this hilarious and shocking? Well, she realizes even in that 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.880 moment what the Prime Minister didn't remember. The Prime Minister 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:44.320 didn't immediately say sorry. Instead, he said sorry because he 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:48.919 was about to be confronted. Well, the Prime Minister thought 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.160 this was a story that would be noticed by no one. 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:54.040 If it was, it'd be noticed by people who he 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:57.920 thinks he can frankly ignore. Well, it did turn up 0:02:57.960 --> 0:02:59.959 tonight as a story on the six PM News is 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.639 close to the lead story in many online news sites 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.720 tonight as a disgraceful lack of judgment from the Prime Minister. 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:09.480 So he has walked back into the Parliament. But I 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.200 need you to know he walked back into the Parliament 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:15.880 about an hour ago. Now, those statements, of course, were 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:19.359 made in and around the two o'clock hour in Canberra. 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:24.720 He waited another six hours before issuing an apology, but 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:28.360 only after the story had become one that he could 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.960 not ignore and one that he would have to presumably 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.480 answer for when the sun comes up tomorrow. Here is 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:38.920 his apology not delivered immediately but many hours later, In fact, 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:43.320 two hours after the story was on widespread six PM 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:44.200 news tonight. 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:49.560 Today in question time, I made comments that were unkind 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:52.800 and hurtful. I knew it was wrong as soon as 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:56.280 I made the comment. I apologized and I withdrew as 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:57.200 soon as I said it. 0:03:57.880 --> 0:03:58.960 But it shouldn't have happened. 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.840 So I want to apologize to all Australians who suffer 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:12.920 from this disability. I regret saying it was wrong, it 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:15.440 was insensitive, and I apologize. 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:17.840 Now I'm going to be a hard mark on the 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:21.279 Prime Minister here despite the apology, because this is what 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.440 happened in real time. Did he look like he immediately 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:28.520 regretted what he said or once the opposition rose to 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:31.120 make it a point, you tell me. 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:37.599 The idea that where have you got Tourett's or something? 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:45.200 You know, you know you see there, babble babble, bab or. 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:48.640 I we draw, mister Spegher, I we draw, we drawn, 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:51.680 I we join and apologize. 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.160 Disgraceful stuff. We'll talk about that and a whole lot 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:58.400 more in the panel a little bit later tonight. Meantime, 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.040 another poll has pointed out that the Prime Minister is 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:02.800 on the wrong side of history when it comes to 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:05.920 actually dealing with the economic crisis that many Australians are 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.840 feeling and failing each and every day. This got lost 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:10.960 in much of the October seven coverage. We mentioned it 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.360 briefly last night, but it shows that fifty two percent 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:17.240 of Australians believe that the person and people and organization 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:19.640 who has most responsibility for dealing with inflation is not 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:21.680 the Reserve Bank. There's just twenty nine percent of people. 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:25.599 These are the hardcore lefties. Instead, the majority of the 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:27.599 country fifty two percent says that it is the federal 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:32.640 government and specifically the Treasurer. Now because the Prime Minister 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:36.920 and the Treasurer have actually failed to deal with how 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:40.640 much money they keep pumping into the economy via increased spending, 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:45.560 including yes, increased welfare spending. The Reserve Bank has made 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:49.839 the decision twelve times since Jim Chalmers became the Treasurer 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:52.000 of Australia, and now it easy became the Prime Minister 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:55.280 to raise interest rates. Well, today we started to see 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.400 some of the working documents behind their decision not to 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.680 increase but more importantly not to cut interest rates. At 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:05.520 their meeting a couple of weeks ago. The Board minutes 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:09.560 they make it very clear that the Reserves Bank's message 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:13.680 that is not ruling in or out a hike or 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:16.840 a cut, is set against the diagnosis of a decidedly 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:21.359 weak economy, according to the minutes of the discussion that 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:23.680 took place, so there is still a potential here of 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:26.320 a rate rise rather than a further rate pause or 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:31.119 rate cut. Further, financial conditions might need to be even 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:35.839 tighter or looser at the present to achieve the Board's objectives. Remember, 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:39.480 the Board's objectives is to get inflation consistently back between 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:42.520 two and three percent. It is currently below three percent, 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:45.400 but that is because of millions of dollars being spent 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:49.400 by the government to artificially drop the prices of power 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:54.160 and therefore to frankly buy an inflation result. The Reserve 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:57.239 Bank is waiting to see what happens about the real 0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:01.840 inflation result time. Economists are suggesting that there will be 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:03.880 a rate cut and a most likely will happen before 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:09.560 the next federal election. Now, again, as we've said, the 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:12.240 orthodox thinking in Canberra is that if it goes up 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:13.840 before the election, the government's going to be in a 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.040 world of trouble. But I've got some breaking news for 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:21.880 some of these people. Twelve intrastraight rises has created a 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.880 huge amount of pain for millions of Australians. A third 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:26.800 of Australians that are paying off a house, and presumably 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.680 most of the third that are renting are in a 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:33.640 house that is being paid off by somebody else. Even 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:39.080 if there is a quarter or half percent increase, we 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.760 will still be dealing with generation high interest rates. So 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:44.720 don't fall for what is about to be the media spin, 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:49.000 which is well, inflation is going down. No, its prices 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.080 are still going up. The speed with which they are 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:54.120 going up may will be slightly changing. And secondly, if 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.440 there is a reduction in interest rates, that's good obviously 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:58.800 for everyone who's paying things off. But because there's been 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:02.800 twelve of them, that's the damage that needs to be 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:06.480 put right. It needs to go down half a dozen 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.680 times before people are going to start to notice any 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:12.720 sort of relief. And as I've shown you before, again 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:14.360 let's deal with the data and then we can put 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.280 the opinion on top of it. There is a huge 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.080 explosion in the amount of money that people are having 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:21.760 to spend to pay off their mortgages right now. In fact, 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:25.360 the average homeowners overall are now paying five billion dollars 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:29.040 more than they were a couple of years ago to 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.360 actually pay off their mortgages. This means there's been a 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.760 sixty one percent increase in the total amount of money 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:37.120 that people have had too fine to pay back interest 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.600 rates since this Prime Minister and this Treasurer took over. 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:45.720 So yes, any cut will be great, but it's because 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:47.600 it's a signal that it's not going to get worse. 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:52.679 Any rate cut, while accepted and celebrated, will not get 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:56.280 the government off the hook because the effective financial pain 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:59.439 has been twelve rate rises in the making. Bring it 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.760 down by one and bring it down by two, Okay, 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:05.880 that's better, But if the damage is twelve, then one 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:07.920 is hardly going to touch the sides in terms of 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:11.679 people actually feeling any better. Meantime, interesting polling coming from 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:14.200 the Turmbal Times otherwise known as The Guardian, that shows 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:17.319 us here about the government's role and what Australians believe 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:19.560 the government's role is when it comes to the variety 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.880 of issues. When it comes to cost of living. Now again, 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:23.680 this government will try to tell you that everything's fine, 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:26.679 everything's all right. Well, they say here, how much impact 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:29.720 do you think the government has in reducing the following, Well, 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:35.880 the best part, pardon me, of seventy almost eighty percent 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:41.440 of people think that health the government could cut there again, 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:44.679 about eighty percent. When it comes to energy, they believe 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.920 the government plays a role in that. The same number 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:52.160 when it comes to education. When it comes to housing, mortgages, 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:57.000 interest rates, again, seventy eight percent of Australians believing the 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:59.280 federal government plays a key role in all of that. Hence, 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.160 why if it comes down by one it is not 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:04.280 going to make the difference that the political people will 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:08.880 tell you that it's the case seventy seven percent when 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.400 it comes to transport and overall when it comes to groceries. 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.120 It is interesting here that people who believe a large 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:18.679 or moderate impact. Well again there you're dealing with more 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:20.840 than sixty five percent of people who believe the government 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:26.240 has a position to play in those particular areas. So 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:29.400 what are Australians looking for? To what extent do you believe? 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:33.080 Do you support or oppose the following economic measures to 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:38.120 introduce price caps? And this is frightening that Australians are 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.280 so frustrated by the cost of living crisis, which has 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:46.520 been exacerbated by a government that, among other things, took 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:48.920 money off people. Remember a couple of budgets ago when 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:52.400 it came to the local middle income tax offset. Well, 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:55.840 again you can see the best part there. Of seventy 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.320 percent of people believe that the government could introduce price 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:01.640 caps on groceries, rent energy bills. Pretty much the same 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:05.920 when it comes to increasing taxes on big corporations, reducing 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:09.400 personal income tax again about sixty five percent, fun more 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:13.160 social services as some way of dealing with the economy. Again, 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:16.160 more than half of people run a budget surflus to 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:19.440 reduce inflation. Well it doesn't, but you can see there again, 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:21.760 more than half of people think that's the right thing 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.160 to do. Raise the level of income support for people 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:27.080 who are unemployed again more than fifty percent, and reduce 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:30.839 tracks tax breaks like negative gearing. Now interestingly, here again 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:32.720 you're looking at a number of more than fifty percent. 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.679 So these are in many ways very left wing proposals 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.240 as to how to deal with situations, which is why 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:40.920 the Prime Minister thinks is in the right place when 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:44.040 it comes to shrinkflation. It's also why the Greens think 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.079 they're in an even better place because they will actually 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.440 suggest some of these things. But a bit of an 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.160 indication that when pressure has been the way that it 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.280 has been for as long as it has been, people 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:57.320 are willing for any solution, no matter how counter productive 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:03.400 it is to the concept of an open and free market. Now, 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:05.200 you remember last year the Prime Minister told us that 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:08.040 he was going to cut immigration. This was because, of course, 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:10.720 it's wildly out of controllers. We've shown you before the 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.600 best part of almost a million people have come to 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.240 the country at a time when there's not a mini 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:19.000 new houses being built. In fact, I remember the headlines 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:22.000 at the time that labor is determined to have the 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:25.560 record post pandemic migration. In fact, the Prime Minister even 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:28.840 said this on three aw. 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:33.560 But what we are projecting is that the non the 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:37.480 net overseas migration is projected to come down to two 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:41.240 hundred and fifty thousand in the coming financial year in 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:43.160 twenty twenty four to twenty five. 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:46.559 Now, of course, one of the problems with too many 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:50.440 people coming in and not enough infrastructure being built, specifically housing, 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.000 is the rental cues They are as long as they 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.439 currently are. Where places like in Ipswich, even a two 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:59.040 bedroom joint that is available more than one hundred people 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.880 try to apply for it. In places like Western Australia 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:06.000 Tasmania in particular, there's less than one percent of all 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:09.360 of the available housing that is available for rent right now. 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.599 You add a Midian people to that, guess what, the 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:14.800 queue gets longer. The issue gets tougher when it comes 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.440 to the infrastructure that states have to produce. We know 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:19.760 that ambulance ramping is the worst it has been in 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.520 every single state Queensland. You have an opportunity, in just 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:24.240 a couple of weeks time to send a message that 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.280 this is not okay that when you call Triple O, 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:28.920 an ambulance may or may not turn up. If you 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:30.719 are on the back of the ambulance, you may or 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:32.600 may not, But most likely we'll end up sitting in 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:34.360 the back of the ambulance because there's no room in 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:37.040 the hospital. Why because in part a million more people 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.640 have been added to the country. And by the way, 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:41.280 just in case you think it's me making this up 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.160 as a talking point, I want to point you to 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:46.079 a study from Maccuarra University that says ambulance ramping is 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:49.320 getting worse in Australia. Now they suggest what can be 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:51.520 done about it, But there is a whole collection of 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:54.520 data points there that prove what I have said, that 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:56.160 this thing is out of control, that it is a 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:58.480 problem in almost every single state where we are at 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:01.600 record numbers because there are numbers of people trying to 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:04.480 call an ambulance if it is ever needed at any 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:08.200 one time. So you see migration matters because more people, 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:12.120 well they do sometimes create more problems. Now, this is 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.240 not a hit on people to come from different parts 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:17.440 of the world. It's not a soft race comment. You 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:19.400 know how many times and almost every night have to 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:21.120 say the same thing because we know somebody's going to 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:22.880 run off to the umpire and try to dob me 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.880 in for saying something that I am clearly not. But 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:30.240 guess what the government is about to miss its own targets, 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.440 the one that was apparently going to dramatically drop things 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:37.480 by a hundred thousand people. Yes, an entire MCG is 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.160 how wrong they have got it. Australia as net migration 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.720 target for the last financial year risks being overshot by 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.480 as much as one hundred thousand labor likely to eclipse 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:49.040 its targets on the current annual intake as ongoing strength 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:52.760 in domestic jobs market keeps workers in Australia and attracts 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:58.760 overseas arrivals. As Maxwell Smart would say, missed it by 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:07.080 that much. If only it was funny. Now back to 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.960 the protests and the ongoing carry on that we need 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:11.560 to be dealing with because people want to bring the 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:14.120 problems on the other side of the world to this country. 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:16.920 We know how ridiculous things were yesterday when even on 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:20.680 October the seventh, people were deciding to listen to a 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.640 collection of speakers, one including somebody who's visiting from the 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:27.520 United States saying, in my belief, completely inappropriate and disgraceful 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:30.320 things to be said on the day where the Jewish 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:34.320 community in Australia deserves its right to mourn it's dead. 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:39.520 Today is not fully a day of mourning in many respects, 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:45.119 today is also a day that marks considerable celebration, considerable progress, 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.119 and in some respects, considerable privilege. 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.000 Now this bloke is a visitor in our country. I 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.280 don't know why he is still in the country after 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:59.160 what was said. Now, this bloke works for the Arizona 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:03.160 State Universe. I have blacked out the contact information. I 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.320 don't suggest anyone goes looking for it. I'm not suggesting 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.840 anyone gets in contact with him other than the authorities 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.440 who should cancel his visa. Now again, I believe that 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:15.720 it's completely legitimate for the people to be in standing 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:18.040 of the Palestinian cause talking about the tens of thousands 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.440 of people who have died since October the seventh. But 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:22.440 the people who were saying what they were saying on 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:25.080 October the seventh were not really talking about the Palestinian 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:28.480 people in my view. They were using the plight of 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:35.000 the Palestinian people to overtly antagonize the Australian Jewish community. 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.280 The fact that that event was happening on the steps 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:40.200 of a mosque was again an attempt from the people 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:42.120 who were making those comments to make sure that no 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:45.520 one would shut it down because it was a religious ceremony. 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:48.520 But again, this bloke has got plenty of form. You 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.280 can find what he's had to say online. He's got 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:53.920 his Instagram feed, his Twitter feed. Can you believe this 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:57.040 bloke's followed by two point three million people on Instagram. 0:16:57.560 --> 0:16:59.680 I want to read his words. But we were looking 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:03.240 at his social media feed today, including in the past 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:08.760 few days, the celebration seemingly of at least fourteen Israeli 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:12.199 soldiers who were dying. Why because they were attempting to 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:17.600 invade Lebanon. As for the overall protest situation, there's an 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:20.119 interesting word that is starting to come out now from 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.639 the new soobals premiere. Now, the new Soba's premier we 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:24.760 know wants to crack down on the worst elements of 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.600 this stuff again, the new ones. In the conversation, I've 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.320 already stated tonight that I understand that for fifty two 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:34.080 weeks people have been recognizing what's been happening in Gaza. 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.639 I understand that the people with the Hesbala flags, the 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:39.200 people saying what's been said in the past twenty four 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.000 to forty eight hours, that's a completely different story. But 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:44.080 the Prime Minister, as sorry, the premier, i should say 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:45.800 in New South Wales, says that it's costing at least 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:49.360 five maybe eleven million dollars to police what has been 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:51.360 going on of recent times. This is what he said. 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:54.440 I think on the radio today it's. 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:56.280 My view that police should be able to be in 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:59.640 a position to deny a request for a march due 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.639 to stretched police resourcing. And I'm not talking about a 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.679 union rally against the government over a wage deal. But 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.320 when you've got someone putting in an application every seven 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:11.240 days for fifty one weeks to march through Sydney streets, 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:14.160 this is costing millions of dollars and I think taxpayers 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:15.840 should be in a position to be able to say 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.320 we would prefer that money is spent on road side 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:23.600 breath testing, domestic violence investigations, knife crimes, rather than the 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.840 huge resources that's going into the city and the community. 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:29.280 Now, there's two other little things that I want to 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:30.800 put a little pin in because I think it's going 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:34.440 to be interesting to see exactly what are the consequences 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:37.600 for people who continuously are on the wrong side of 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.240 what the police or the government are trying to say 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:45.560 is reasonable or excessive protest. Now a story today that 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:48.120 there is a person who has been fired from their 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:52.919 job because of activism and repeated activism. What will be 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.400 interesting here is to work out when presumably this matter 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:59.320 goes before a work tribune, or whether that is going 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:02.880 to be why a company or an organization can sever 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:06.760 its links from someone watch this space meantime, in Victoria, 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:10.119 the first person to actually be successfully charged and found 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:17.080 guilty of holding up offensive symbols, well, he again was 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:20.520 found guilty today, but we will find out again. Put 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:23.760 a pin in it here. Now, Remember the maximum for 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:31.160 things like Nazi salutes or Hezbollah flags or swastikas in 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:35.000 Victoria is tens of thousands of dollars and maybe a 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:38.520 year in jail. Now, whatever the judge decides to be 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:41.160 the punishment will then end up being the standard. Now 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:43.240 remember what I've just said there about how much money 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.240 and how long in prison, Well, all of that is, 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:48.719 of course just the absolute maximum that can be handed 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:51.000 Nine times out of ten, we know that judges for 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:54.399 all different reasons decide to not hand out that maximum. 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:57.160 So we'll truly find out what the actual standing penalty 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:01.639 is rather than the one that politicians just announce. Also 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:04.680 worth noting here too, we'll talk tonight about what happened 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:06.880 in the Parliament, about the motion that was first put 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:10.480 forward by the Opposition leader, then changed by the Prime Minister, 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:13.199 and all that happened in and around this today. But 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:14.680 I want to show you that pole that I showed 0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:19.120 you last night Now it says here that what the 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:23.320 best part of less than twenty percent of people believe 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:27.200 that we should be having the marches in Australia. Now again, 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:29.880 only eight percent of people think that that's okay when 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:32.560 it's in the name of Hamas, only seven percent. When 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:37.240 it comes to Israel. In terms of voicing principal support 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:39.760 one way or the other, again, it's only thirty five 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:43.320 percent of people that have a strong position on that 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:46.080 in favor of one or the other. And in terms 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:50.600 of refugees again it's twenty four percent. Now, I understand 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:52.879 how passionate this issue is for a certain series of people, 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:55.320 with the vast majority of people in every version of 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:59.040 that pole echo my position from last night, which is, 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:01.960 we understand, but Australia is different than the other parts 0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:05.880 of the world and if generationally, parents, grandparents, or even 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:10.160 you yourself fled those places, then you leave the grievances there. 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:12.600 Can have strong political opinions, fine and fair enough, but 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:15.399 we live in this country under a new harmony. And 0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:18.680 a new harmony is that literally two people who diametrically 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:21.320 oppose each other can live next door to each other, 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:24.280 can work in the same workplace, can occupy the same 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:27.600 public square. I just thought that was worth reminding everyone 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:30.080 who seems to think that this is the only thing 0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:35.080 people want to talk about. It isn't. Meantime, eighteen days 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:37.679 left for Queensland to finally pass its judgment on that 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:40.960 idiot to Stephen Miles, old giggles Miles, and of course 0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:44.560 he is a merry band of fools who currently parade 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:50.080 themselves as the Labor Party government in Queensland. Now. Amazingly, 0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:52.400