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Speaker 1: It's a you project. It's six years in, it's a

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest.

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Speaker 1: We're prepared nothing. I'm also going to be honest. Tip's

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Speaker 1: made to be cranky, just a bit cranky. Yesterday had

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Speaker 1: She threw a glow mesh in the shag pile, she

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Speaker 2: Well it took all week, but yeah, I've come good today. Today,

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't even know who this is, but

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Speaker 1: it came up on my timeline this morning. Some lady

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Speaker 1: I think that follows me. And she's like, I don't

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Speaker 1: out there easternee spiritually slapfish together. But you know, sometimes

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm a bit like, I'm not sure, but

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Speaker 1: was talking about how she'd had a bunch of her

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Speaker 1: clients in this week or patience, whatever she calls them,

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Speaker 1: and they were all like you were when I chatted

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Speaker 1: to you yesterday, which was super flat, and she was

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Speaker 1: the full moon, and I used to think it was bullshit.

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Speaker 1: I used to think that, which is just shows that

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Speaker 1: I was kind of ignorant because it's well known that

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Speaker 1: told it once on this show, but I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, years ago, I did a and I mean

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Speaker 1: this with total respect, I did a corporate speaking gig

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Speaker 1: But I was asking her about the school do you

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was asking her, like, what's it like, and

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Speaker 1: she goes, oh, yes, Like the fucking dumbass. I'm like, wow,

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Speaker 1: I just tied it up. There's a link.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I'm a bit aware wolf. For me, I

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Speaker 2: And like I always, you know, there's been times probably

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Speaker 2: that it's just fucking not that easy all the time.

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Speaker 2: Like I was, I would turn up to train to

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Speaker 1: Well, pleasure. I mean, it's but that's the thing, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: energy can impact other people's energy, and you know, for

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Speaker 2: so I'm like, what's nothing to say? Wef it's good,

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Speaker 2: nothing's happened. There's nothing to unpack except my energy is

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Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question? Feel free to tell

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Speaker 1: But you're forty one.

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Speaker 2: I'm having an appointment tomorrow, all right?

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Speaker 1: Do you like is that I'm not kind of going?

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Speaker 1: So where are you at? You know I'm not there,

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Speaker 2: So I went, well, this all makes sense, and I

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Speaker 2: work I've done. But this year, when I wasn't in

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Speaker 2: similar couple of similar emotional reactions where I'm for no reason,

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Speaker 2: this is out of context. I think this might be hormonal.

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Speaker 2: My recovery is tanked this year. I've been waking up

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Speaker 2: wake up. So I yeah, So I've just made an

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Speaker 2: the things tested. Do you know what else was interesting

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Speaker 2: I can't remember the percentage of female athletes that actually

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Speaker 1: this is why it is incredibly important that people if

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Speaker 1: you are going to see an exercise physiologist and nutritionist

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Speaker 1: to fucking physiotherapist, a doctor and anything, trust them to

427
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: a I'm not saying they're untrustworthy. I'm saying it's your body.

428
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: Ask good questions, and if they fob you off, go

429
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 1: get another doctor who doesn't or trainer or whatever. Because

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Speaker 1: when someone says to me you need to do that,

431
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, cool, Why well, why tell me? Why tell

432
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Speaker 1: me the mechanism, tell me the reason, and then if

433
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Speaker 1: it makes sense to me, you know, like, ultimately, I

434
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Speaker 1: need to take ownership for my body one and two

435
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Speaker 1: what I do to my body, or maybe three what

436
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Speaker 1: I allow others to do to my body, because at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, I've got to live in

438
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Speaker 1: this fucking thing. And I personally have been given advice

439
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: over the years that was wrong for me, and I

440
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: did it because I trusted them more than myself, and

441
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Speaker 1: I ended up getting sick or you know whatever, or

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Speaker 1: injured or whatever the case may be. And by the way,

443
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: none of those people were trying to do the wrong thing.

444
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Speaker 1: But you know, even well intentioned people do not understand

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Speaker 1: your body totally because they work with a range of bodies,

446
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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 2: So it was like, well, you know, back in that

448
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 2: at that first fight, when I had a ridiculous amount

449
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Speaker 2: lower amount of iron in my body, he was like,

450
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Speaker 2: I don't even know how you're training. You've got no iron.

451
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Speaker 2: And when I went to get my blood so they

452
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Speaker 2: were fight bloods, and he's like, you got no iron.

453
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: I go, I didn't you test the iron? He goes, no,

454
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Speaker 2: I tested the iron. You got no iron. I don't

455
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Speaker 2: even know how you're training. And I was like wow,

456
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Speaker 2: oh right, and then he gave me iron infusions. And

457
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Speaker 2: then months later I went to another doctor and had

458
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Speaker 2: blood's done and he was like, ah, your iron is

459
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Speaker 2: ten times higher than it should be. And I was like, oh,

460
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Speaker 2: doctor x y Z gave me some mind infusued he goes,

461
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Speaker 2: did he do it by weight? I'm like, he goes,

462
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Speaker 2: did he test why you had that lower iron in

463
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Speaker 2: the first I go not right that, Like they're doctors,

464
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,959
Speaker 2: they should be looking into that. Someone should be But

465
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: when you don't know, you just go okay, oh thanks, yeah,

466
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Speaker 2: give me an infusion. Done, tick, move on.

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Speaker 1: I heard I heard the very polarizing Jordan Peterson. So

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Speaker 1: forget his politics or whatever, folks, but just from a

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Speaker 1: personal experience, I heard him talking about he only eats meat.

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Speaker 1: Did you know that?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he only eats meat. He's a carnival like, doesn't

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Speaker 1: even eat vegetables. Right, But he had all of these conditions,

474
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Speaker 1: all of these inflammatory conditions, like problems with his teeth

475
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Speaker 1: and his gums, and even mental health issues because he

476
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Speaker 1: got addicted to this painkiller. I think it was in

477
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: Europe anyway, I heard him talking. Also, his daughter Mikayla

478
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Speaker 1: has significant issues. Maybe they have a few green veggies

479
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: or something, but they definitely they eat carbs, starchy carbs,

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Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure only meat, meat, and like salt.

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Speaker 1: Right now, would I recommend that to anyone? Fuck?

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Speaker 2: No?

483
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Speaker 1: Would I eat like that? Fuck? Nah? That is so

484
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Speaker 1: not appealing to me. But I think for three or

485
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Speaker 1: four years he's done that, and all of his health

486
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: markers are through the roof, right, Now that's not science,

487
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: that's that's an anecdotal case, an equus one. But I

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Speaker 1: mean he's not an idiot, he's a PhD. He's a

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Speaker 1: very intelligent man. Love him, I hate him, and you go,

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Speaker 1: this is my point. My point is not we should

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Speaker 1: all do that. My point is we shouldn't all, you know,

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Speaker 1: become boxes or fucking bullfed bodybuilders or you know. But

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Speaker 1: the thing is this arbitrary, inflexible kind of way of

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Speaker 1: thinking that no, that doesn't work for bodies, No, that

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00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: doesn't work for somebodies, you know, and then you know

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Speaker 1: for you that that kind of you know, when you

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Speaker 1: go to two experts who basically give you very different

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Speaker 1: information within a short period of time about your own physiology,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's like then you kind of go, who

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Speaker 1: the fuck do I believe?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's who I believe, right, yes, making decisions

502
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Speaker 2: like and you know what I find interest. There's a

503
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Speaker 2: lot of different diets out there, and as soon as

504
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Speaker 2: someone has a result, they they want to be an

505
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Speaker 2: advocate of it, which is which is great, But how

506
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Speaker 2: much of that is just validation? But how many people

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Speaker 2: that are on these radical diets like Carnival, how many

508
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: of them started by first just fucking off processed foods

509
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Speaker 2: and going, you know, I'm just going to eat whole foods.

510
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: I'm just going to start there. Test that first, because

511
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: there you go from eating anything and everything to only meet.

512
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: Of course, whatever you cut out, there's a portion of

513
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Speaker 2: it that's going to be the culprit. He's going to

514
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Speaker 2: have a result of making you feel better. Of course,

515
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Speaker 2: when people do that, no one comes to me and says,

516
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Speaker 2: I'm carnival. I spent a year just eating no processed

517
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Speaker 2: food and that didn't work.

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Speaker 1: Upset Well, even when you think of things that people

519
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: now consider fucking miracle cures like ozenpic you go, okay,

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00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: so what does ozepic do? Ah? Well, I mean it

521
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: does a few things from a mechanism point of view

522
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: that aren't very fucking attractive some of them. But one

523
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: of the things that it does do it suppresses hunger.

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Speaker 1: Oh and what's the consequence of that? Are you eat less? Ah?

525
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: So people are losing weight? Hang on because they're reducing calories. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Ah well, here's a question. Is it possible to reduce

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Speaker 1: calories just by reducing calories? And before you send me

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Speaker 1: an email, yeah, I know, it's easier said than done.

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00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: I get it, of course. I mean, do you know

530
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Speaker 1: what fucking makes me laugh? As when I put up

531
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Speaker 1: a post and someone writes easier said than done, I'm like,

532
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: of course you fuck with of course, it's everything is

533
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: literally easier said than done, you know. I mean, here's

534
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: an idea, and I know it's hard, and I know

535
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: it's not convenient, and I know it's not easy. I

536
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: get it. But if you just reduce your calories and

537
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: you increase your calorie expenditure, you're going to lose weight,

538
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: you know. And yes, there's a few rare exceptions, and

539
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: we're putting aside people with ridiculous not ridiculous, but rare hormonal.

540
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: But for the most part, the average punter, you know.

541
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: But again, this is not glamorous, quick, fun, sexy.

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00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: It's also a process of elimination. Like food, there's always it,

543
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: there's your physiological effort, affect your emotional, your psychological attachment

544
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: with food. So that whole intimate and fasting thing. For me,

545
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: one of the things I loved about it, aside from

546
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: just energy, is my relationship with food is so much

547
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: better when I can get up and fast and then

548
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: eat in an eight hour window, right that just I'm

549
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: known to obsess over food. I can be really obsessive

550
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: and bingey. I can eat and I'll you know, once

551
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: I start, it's like I won't put it down. So

552
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 2: then my next thing is, well, now if I'm not

553
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: going to fast because I've I don't think that's doing

554
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 2: my body good. Now I have to look at other reasons.

555
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: Why how do I now control my hunger hornbones without

556
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: just wrestling with it and going on, Well, that's just it.

557
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: It's like no one else. Another thing that in that

558
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: book that came up today was talking about gut health

559
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: and how feeding different. You know people, they're talking about

560
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: people that love chocolate, and chocolate feeds a certain type

561
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: of bacteria, and then that bacteria is a colony inside

562
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: your gut. And then when you cut sugar out or

563
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: chocolate or whatever, the food is the craving subsidet. So

564
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, so then you start to understand it

565
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: from this the biology of what you're eating, You go, oh,

566
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: that might shift. Maybe I can do some gut stuff.

567
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: Maybe I can see someone that can boost that part

568
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: of my biology and make it a little bit easier.

569
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: And then I cannot intermit fast and still have an

570
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: easier time with food.

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00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, oh look, I mean the truth and the

572
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: this is Craig the EmPATH here of course, like losing

573
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,719
Speaker 1: weight is not easy, and I've never said it's easy,

574
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: but it's possible, like this is the good news, you know,

575
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: and like it's like I don't want to be I

576
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: met this guy today, right who maybe you know I

577
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: don't take on new coaching clients. A lovely guy. He's

578
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: got a bit of work to do when he knows that, right,

579
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,479
Speaker 1: And he's like really wants me to coach him. And

580
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: I said, I'm not going to say yes right now.

581
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: He's gone away, he's gone away tonight for a few weeks.

582
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: I said, I want you to think about it. I said,

583
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: but if you're interested in like if what you want

584
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: is me to be you to see me once a

585
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: week and I'm a little bit of a personal cheer squad,

586
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: and I tell you you're awesome and you're trying hard.

587
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: I go, I'm not that guy, Like, I'm interested in

588
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: you over the next five, ten, twenty years, really changing

589
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: how you know your mind, body emotions work, because he

590
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: needs to and he knows that I'm interested in your

591
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: long term kind of quality of life and performance and experience,

592
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: and you're being happy content for all that, right, I'm

593
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: not interested in making you feel good for five minutes

594
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: in the middle of a chat. And it's like, we

595
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: are very in our culture. And I'm generalizing so not

596
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: all of our listeners, of course, but you know, we

597
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 1: are so addicted to comfort and people telling us we're

598
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: amazing and validating our fear. And I understand all of that,

599
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: and we need to be loving, kind of empathetic. But

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00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 1: you know, there have been times in my life where

601
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: I needed someone to go you've been a fucking idiot,

602
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: because I was being a fucking idiot, right. I just

603
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: was like, I wish that there was a person in

604
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: my life. And there have been a few who have

605
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: thank you to those people, but who kind of called

606
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: me on my bullshit, you know. And I told this

607
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: story once or twice. But an old guy that I

608
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: used to really look up to and love, he when

609
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Speaker 1: I was very young. He and he was real smart,

610
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Speaker 1: real wise. He said to me, you need to be

611
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Speaker 1: careful what you do with your mouth, because you're going

612
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: to bring people down or raise them up. And he goes,

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Speaker 1: you have a gift and you have a responsibility. What

614
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: you do with your mouth, what you choose to do,

615
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: is very important. And nobody had ever spoken to me

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00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: like that because I was a smart ass and I

617
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: could make people laugh or I could fucking slice and

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00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: dice them with my words, right, and I didn't want

619
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: to do that. But if somebody would have a go

620
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: at me, it was like somebody would throw one punch,

621
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: I would throw forty six, right, And that was just

622
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: about my bullshit. And he said that to me, and

623
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: he goes, you can spend your life bringing people down

624
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: or up. It's a choice. And that changed my life.

625
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: But you know, I had to be told that, and

626
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: somebody had to go to me. You know, he didn't

627
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: say this because he's too nice, but like you're being

628
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 1: a fuck with being a fuck, you know. And even

629
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: times when there were times when I had to say

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Speaker 1: to myself, Craig, you're not fat because you're fucking thick set,

631
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: full figure, Craig, you're fat because you're just overeating. You're

632
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: just overeating, you know. And I'm not saying anyone else,

633
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: so don't get upset. I'm talking about myself. But like

634
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: when I was morbidly obese, which I was as a

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00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: child then later as an adult. Right, I was one

636
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Speaker 1: hundred and seven kilos in my late twenties, right, which

637
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: is nelly? What is that? It's third? What is that

638
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: thirty two kilos three kilos heavier than now? And it's

639
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 1: because I was eating shit. It wasn't it wasn't genetically predetermined,

640
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: and it wasn't like, oh fucking woe is me. I

641
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: was just being a dickhead with food. I was eating

642
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: way too much. I was eating bad food. I was

643
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: eating too much food and the consequence. And that's not

644
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: self loathing, that's just honesty, that's just harps. You're doing

645
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: this thing, and this is the result. Now you can

646
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: jump up and down. You can talk about your genetics,

647
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: you can you can talk about the business dinners that

648
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: you have to go to. You can talk about how

649
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: busy you are and how you don't have time to

650
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: prep meals. You can and then but you're still fucking fat. Right,

651
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 1: you can like and at the end of the day,

652
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: for me, anyway, that works for me. Obviously, I'm not

653
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: going to walk up to someone and talk like that ever. Right,

654
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: But the truth is the truth. If you're wasting your talent,

655
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: you're wasting your talent. So don't get upset at me

656
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: because you're the one wasting it, you know, if you're

657
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: bullshitting and saying it's a time thing when it's a

658
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: you thing. Also, don't get mad at me if it

659
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: actually is a you thing. If it isn't a you thing,

660
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: then I'm wrong and you're right. That's cool, carry on,

661
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: But don't spend your life rationalizing failure and underachievement and

662
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: underperformance and wasted potential because you actually don't want to

663
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: own your own actions or your own choices or your

664
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: own behaviors. Like you know, you're never going to have

665
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: more talent than you've got right now, tif, I'm never

666
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: going to have more talent than I've got. I can

667
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: get more skill, I can get more efficiency, I can

668
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: get maybe a bit more muscle, I can get a

669
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Speaker 1: bit more knowledge, I can get a bit more qualified,

670
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: but I can't get more talented. So the question is

671
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Speaker 1: how much of my talent will I use? And I

672
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: think that's all potential, genetic potential, creative potential, intellectual potential,

673
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: business potential, personal professional, Like I tried real hard and

674
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: I'm nowhere near my limit, you know, so you know

675
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Speaker 1: that's what fascinates me.

676
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 2: I was talking to a girl yesterday and did eight

677
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 2: years eighteen years as gymnast, and we were talking about

678
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: gymnasts and body image and identity and what's in. I

679
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: talked about how I remember when I was first started boxing,

680
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 2: super lean and ripped and crazy.

681
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: You know.

682
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: I used to say, like, I'm so glad people used

683
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: to say to me, you should do bodybuild and get

684
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 2: on stage like you're already like you could just get

685
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: on stage tomorrow with this bray tand and I was like,

686
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: I wouldn't stick to the diet plan. I have no

687
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 2: interest in being that strict with my diet because I

688
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 2: just want to eat what I want to eat. But

689
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: I used to say, I'm so glad that that body

690
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 2: is just to reaper cut of the thing that I

691
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 2: love doing that much that I do it. And that's

692
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 2: an easy thing to think about yourself. But at times

693
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 2: when I wasn't able to train, or times when I

694
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: didn't feel that way about my body, it was like, oh,

695
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: like there's sometimes you aren't bullshitting yourself too, like you know,

696
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 2: I wasn't always that. And then sometimes I was driven.

697
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 2: In fact, it's easy to say, like I've got great

698
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 2: genetics and I've always been really active, but there's been

699
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: bouts of times in my life where I eat to

700
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: move and move to eat where I go and chastise myself.

701
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 2: And like before I started sport, I would go haul

702
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 2: off to the gym because I'd just overeating a whole

703
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 2: bunch of shit, because the idea of putting on weight

704
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 2: was fucking a non event, like you know so, and

705
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 2: I spent a lot of and but would never fully

706
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: admit that to myself. There were just bouts of that,

707
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: and then you get into a sport and you're like, oh,

708
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 2: I don't you know body image. Look at those bodybuilders

709
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: that obsess over food. I'm just this is just you

710
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: know ah, And then next minute, Yeah.

711
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Speaker 1: I think the core messages here are one body awareness.

712
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: Two more broadly, self awareness, uh, self regulation, and self control.

713
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, we all that's the ever present

714
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: challenge for all of us. And self control might be

715
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: with how you speak to people. It might be with

716
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: how you spend your money. It might be with how

717
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: much television you watch, or how much study you're getting done,

718
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: or you know, how you're responding to criticism. You know.

719
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: It's like, and that's the thing, you know, It's like,

720
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: I mean, this is going to sound cheesy, but that's

721
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: literally why I called this show that you project, you know,

722
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: because it's like that is I'm the project, You're the

723
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: we are the project. In my life, you know, my

724
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: biggest challenge will always be me. My biggest asset and

725
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: problem will be me, my ability to make good decisions,

726
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: my ability to manage myself. Before I try to even

727
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: have any impact on anyone else's life, I need to

728
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: make sure that I'm I'm not a fuck up, I'm

729
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: not a fraud, that I am walking my talk. You know.

730
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: It's like I said to this dude today. You know

731
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: what I did love about this dude today? He sits

732
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: down and he goes, so I'm a narcissist. And I'm like,

733
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: oh my god. You know, I don't think any man

734
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: has ever sat down. I go go on and he goes.

735
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: I know, he goes, I'm full of ego, I'm insecure.

736
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: I do things for attention. I'm like, well, you're a

737
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: pretty fucking evolved narcissist, right, Like that's and I'm like

738
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: I was I said you know what, and he and

739
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: you'd think, oh, he's not a narcissist then because he's

740
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: but then and he is. But he wants to like

741
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: he was brave enough to go, this is what I

742
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: do and how I am and it creates problems, like

743
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: it is just at that point where he's gone, it's

744
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: I know what I do and I recognize the problems

745
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: that it creates and I need help. I'm like, wow,

746
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 1: that's that. I don't know that anyone has ever said

747
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: that to me, So fucking go, you go. You you know,

748
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: I love that. I love it when men can be

749
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: a bit like, I'm the problem, so by the way,

750
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: I'm the problem. Cool, good work, so well done. That's

751
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: awareness and acknowledgment step one. Fucking pat on the back.

752
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: All right, let's go, motherfucker, let's be better.

753
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 2: You know, he wouldn't have lied you not saying yes

754
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 2: straight away and then haaps what that is? It's a

755
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: training him, the coaching him.

756
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, no, well I don't you know. I mean,

757
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: for me, coaching people's are sweet because I want to

758
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: help people, but I don't want people then to become

759
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: dependent on that help.

760
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: But I don't think that's coaching. So coaching leaves them

761
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: with more tools than they came with.

762
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah that theoretically, yes, but that isn't how it plays

763
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: out with a lot of coaches and trainers. You're right,

764
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: you're right, But I also know some people who have

765
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: had the same psychologists, coach, fucking trainer for ten years.

766
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: My dude, if you still need to go, it's not

767
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: the best model, you know. So, hey, that was interesting.

768
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 2: Look at us Jo. Who needs a plan?

769
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: Ah? Who needs a plan? Hey, everybody, don't forget to

770
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Speaker 1: follow tiff on Instagram. You can follow her at Tiffany

771
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Speaker 1: and Co.

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Speaker 2: Tiffany with a Double A or Roll with the Punches

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Speaker 2: Underscore podcast. Then you won't get all the cat and

774
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Speaker 2: dog photos.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Or you can follow Fatty Harps, Craig, Anthony Harper,

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Speaker 1: and and Tips. Home address is Unit three. Uh, I

777
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Speaker 1: don't know what it is actually, all right, Thanks TIFFs

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Speaker 1: pop Bye,