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Speaker 1: This is Brownies Podcast! Welcome to Brownies Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Campbell Brown, Jonathan Brown, myself, Dean Thomas, Bex here.

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Speaker 1: How you going, my friend? You're all good, Bex? I

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Speaker 1: am recovering from a long weekend. Mate, these young people,

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Speaker 1: they don't know how to do it.

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Speaker 3: They can't back up like they could in the old days. Hey,

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Speaker 3: the rounds of footy just keep getting better and better, JB.

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Speaker 1: Jesus.

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Speaker 4: It's unbelievable. It's great to be here. I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 5: It's great to be alive when the cashy circuit, the

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Speaker 5: dream is still alive for one of us. Mine got

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Speaker 5: snatched away from me. Brown dog gone. I asked him

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Speaker 5: how grand final week was looking. He goes, oh, it's

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Speaker 5: looking pretty.

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Speaker 4: Bad now after his hawks got cleaned up.

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Speaker 5: I tell you what, my secretary's working overtime at the moment,

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Speaker 5: taking offers.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's have a listen to the Brown household

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Speaker 2: when the siren went.

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Speaker 1: This is astonishing.

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Speaker 3: Three, two, one.

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Speaker 6: Yes!

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Speaker 4: Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!

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Speaker 3: Now, I'd love to say that that was Liv, but

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Speaker 3: I think that that was Jackie Boy, wasn't it?

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Speaker 4: I think it might have been Jackie.

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Speaker 1: This screaming specifically.

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Speaker 6: Yes!

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Speaker 1: That's Jackie boy.

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Speaker 4: That's spine tingling, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: It's a horror movie. Your neighbours would have been calling

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Speaker 1: the cops.

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Speaker 5: I tell you what, he's an ear front runner. He

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Speaker 5: had a mate sleeping over, so they're up the back

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Speaker 5: playing the... Whatever they were playing, Nintendo or Xbox. And

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Speaker 5: three minutes to go, I said, five points down, boys.

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Speaker 5: They come rushing out. And did they jump on? They

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Speaker 5: jumped onto a good thing. And away they went. They

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Speaker 5: celebrated like they watched the whole game. But how good

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Speaker 5: was big Joey Danaher in the late moments? Those last

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Speaker 5: two efforts, first did that kick from the boundary and

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Speaker 5: then the mark on Sam Taylor. Joe Danaher is becoming

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Speaker 5: an exceptional finals player, Brando.

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Speaker 3: Big game player. He was unbelievable in the grand final

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Speaker 3: last year. And when the team needed him to stand up,

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Speaker 3: he did. Like, first the kick, wrong side for a

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Speaker 3: left footer, which was unbelievable. That was deliberate too. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the free kick was there. There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 3: Poor old Sam Taylor would love his last few minutes back.

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Speaker 3: And the thing is, no one beat Sam Taylor in

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Speaker 3: the one-on-one marking contest. He's the best fullback in the

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Speaker 3: competition by a mile.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Brown Dog, I'll back you up here. Guess what?

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Speaker 4: How many has he lost this year in one-on-one contests?

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Speaker 1: For the whole season?

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Speaker 4: The whole season.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm going to say like 15.

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Speaker 6: 15?

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Speaker 4: Two.

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Speaker 1: Jesus.

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Speaker 3: And you're saying that one of them was the Joe

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Speaker 3: Danaher mark in the last two minutes?

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Speaker 4: He'd only lost one 1v1 contest for the whole season

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Speaker 4: up until that very moment.

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Speaker 3: So there you go, mate. So for him to beat

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Speaker 3: Sam Taylor in a one-on-one, like a proper genuine finals

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Speaker 3: pressure one-on-one, clunk that mark and then go back and

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Speaker 3: kick it, like it's– I know it looks quite elementary

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Speaker 3: to us watching the TV, but that just goes to

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Speaker 3: show how bloody big that moment was.

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Speaker 4: Let's see what.

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Speaker 1: Jack Brown thinks of the season.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe that stat, JB.

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Speaker 3: For the whole season, I know he's missed a few

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Speaker 3: weeks with some injuries and he ruptured his testicle, but

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Speaker 3: he's lost two one-on-one contests.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 5: Two one-on-one contests, and that was that last one. It

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Speaker 5: was fantastic by Joe down there. Charlie Curnow gets celebrated.

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Speaker 5: Probably up until Hogan's last 10 weeks, Charlie Curnow was

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Speaker 5: universally regarded probably as the best forward in the competition.

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Speaker 5: Joe Danner has been a more valuable forward than Charlie

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Speaker 5: Curnow the last two years. Joe Danner was Brisbane's best.

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Speaker 4: Player in the grand final.

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Speaker 5: If they'd have won it, may have won the Norm

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Speaker 5: Smith medal, kicked more goals than any other player in

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Speaker 5: the finals last year. And then he's delivered on the

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Speaker 5: biggest stage and the biggest moment the other night.

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Speaker 4: So you can't.

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Speaker 5: Question Joe Danner. When everyone talks about, oh, the good

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Speaker 5: and the bad of Joe Danner, Tell you what, he

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Speaker 5: consistently stands up and his efforts at Brisbane have been outstanding.

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Speaker 5: I thought Archie was involved in absolutely everything. Underrated game.

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Speaker 4: Played at Whitfield and kicked goals as well.

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Speaker 3: I love the fact that Zorko had a quiet-ish night,

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Speaker 3: snuck forward and kicked an important goal.

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Speaker 4: Loved it. Two important goals it was.

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Speaker 1: Jasper Fletcher, a young man with a big moment and then.

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Speaker 3: Obviously Ashcroft helped change the game. So the blend between

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Speaker 3: the experienced guys doing their thing and some of the

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Speaker 3: young guys, Wilmot, they did a great job down back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, on Jones, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Brisbane actually, Chris Fagan gets criticised a lot for his

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Speaker 5: strategy and his coaching stuff. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 5: there is something in sticking with your players. And I

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Speaker 5: thought their strategy was good. They got some match-ups, did

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Speaker 5: a really good job with some of the match-ups. I

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Speaker 5: thought young Ainsworth did a good job and Brett Daniels,

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Speaker 5: you're right. You mentioned Wilmot.

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Speaker 4: On Jones.

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Speaker 5: So some key matchups. He stuck with Payne, who had

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Speaker 5: a really good last quarter on Hogan. At the end

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Speaker 5: of the day, though, 44 points down.

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Speaker 4: Brown dog.

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Speaker 5: He stared the dragon in the eye, Faggs. He said,

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Speaker 5: I'm trusting my players. And they turned it around. And

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Speaker 5: that's why Faggs is loved by his players because he

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Speaker 5: backs them in.

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Speaker 1: I didn't like the Payne-Hogan matchup.

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Speaker 3: That had danger written all over it, and every single

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Speaker 3: time the ball went in there, Hogan seemed to win it.

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Speaker 5: Except for late, though. Except for late. So you've got

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Speaker 5: to give him credit. He stood up Payne late.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And let's talk about GWS.

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Speaker 3: Well, as good a winner as it was, 44 points down,

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Speaker 3: playing interstate against a side that's dominating. He's a great comeback.

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Speaker 3: But is it systemic now for GWS? They did it

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Speaker 3: the week before against Sydney. They get out to this

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Speaker 3: big lead. They can't hold on. They lost another close

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Speaker 1: Like, is it in their heads?

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Speaker 3: Is it too physical a game style that they just

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Speaker 3: can't maintain it for the full four quarters? Because their

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Speaker 3: best is as good as any in the comp. But

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Speaker 3: you can't come to a screeching halt the way that

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Speaker 3: they do.

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Speaker 1: And clearly.

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Speaker 3: They get the jitters up a bit once a team

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Speaker 3: kicks a few goals and gets some momentum.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing for GWS?

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Speaker 2: Because it's two years of having one of the best

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Speaker 2: teams in the league and you've got nothing to show

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Speaker 2: for it.

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Speaker 4: Nothing.

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Speaker 1: So you go into year three of this pretty much

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Speaker 1: the same team.

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Speaker 4: Heartbreak.

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Speaker 2: How hard is it to climb that mountain again?

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Speaker 4: It's bloody hard because in the moments, you've got to

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Speaker 4: get it done. And at the moment, the.

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Speaker 5: GWS, well, in this final series and late last year,

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Speaker 5: they didn't get it done in key moments.

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Speaker 4: And that's what it comes down to.

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Speaker 5: So Adam Kingsley spoke about the strategy and the plans

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Speaker 5: late in games when you're in front or if you're behind.

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Speaker 4: What you have to do.

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Speaker 5: They rehearsed it the day before the game, all these

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Speaker 5: sorts of things. But at the end of the day...

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Speaker 5: That's why great players and great leaders get lauded because

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Speaker 5: of what they do in moments. So Hodgie had one

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Speaker 5: of the great teammates, one of the great leaders in

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Speaker 4: I had Michael Voss because.

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Speaker 5: They just have this innate ability to make the correct

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Speaker 5: decisions late in games when it's at its most pressurised

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Speaker 5: brown dock. And at the moment, GWS haven't got enough

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Speaker 5: of those players that are able to do that. Yes,

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Speaker 5: I know Caniglio went off earlier in the game with

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Speaker 5: an injury, but but some of their other guys just

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Speaker 5: weren't able to get it done. It's as simple as that,

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Speaker 5: Brown Dog. Now, what do you put that down to?

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's a lack of planning. It's a

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Speaker 5: lack of composure in the moment.

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Speaker 3: And, like, this might sound a little bit old school

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Speaker 3: and silly, but I was always taught if a side

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Speaker 3: kicks three or four goals in a row and has

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Speaker 3: all the momentum and you can't, for whatever reason, stop it,

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Speaker 3: start a wrestle or a melee or something like a fight, right,

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Speaker 3: which just takes their mind off things. you know, setting

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Speaker 3: up at a structure and a stoppage or whatever, right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they just get a bit too passive and just

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Speaker 3: the middle and then some of the players out there

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Speaker 3: get a little bit overawed by the moment. There's no

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Speaker 3: doubt that Sydney and Brisbane, when you're playing in the

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Speaker 3: last quarter and you're chasing a big deficit, you roll

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Speaker 3: the dice a bit. You play way more aggressive than

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Speaker 3: you usually would. You get on the fly at stoppages.

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Speaker 3: You give handballs and things like that. But that is

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Speaker 3: what seems to bring GWS undone.

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Speaker 4: I love our game at the moment, Brandon.

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Speaker 5: I love the rule changes that were made a few

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Speaker 5: years ago and teams that got better and better at

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Speaker 5: using up that momentum, using up that energy in that

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Speaker 5: short space of time. Brisbane kicked five goals in 18 kicks.

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Speaker 5: Like it was an unbelievable turnaround from 44 points down.

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Speaker 5: All of a sudden you go, shit, they're back in

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Speaker 5: the game. And the momentum swings in games is amazing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And you're right, the difference between– What will be eventually

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Speaker 5: the premiers and the also-rans of the finals competition this

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Speaker 5: year is how you can limit the damage when the

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Speaker 5: opposition has momentum. Yes.

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Speaker 4: And you're right, dog. At the moment, GWS aren't able

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Speaker 4: to limit the opposition.

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Speaker 5: When they're up and about, which inevitably that'll happen in

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Speaker 5: every game when you're playing against good sides. And they

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Speaker 5: didn't do it last week against Sydney and they couldn't

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Speaker 5: do it twice against Brisbane. That five goal period late

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Speaker 5: in the third. And of course, that last 20 minutes

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Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter. The poor old Brent Daniels had

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Speaker 5: an unbelievable year. It was unlucky not to be All-Australian

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Speaker 5: forward pocket. He's just signed a really... Big long-term contract

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Speaker 5: with the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Been brilliant.

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Speaker 3: But unfortunately for him, that decision to.

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Speaker 1: Take the advantage, soccer off the ground. My pet hay,

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Speaker 1: brown dog.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Instead of picking it up, giving it back to Jesse Hogan,

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Speaker 3: taking 30 seconds off the clock, he'd go back and

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Speaker 1: Right, in a prelim.

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Speaker 3: You'll think of the great comeback and the Danaher goal,

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Speaker 4: And what about the 50 man?

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Speaker 1: He gave it to Dunkley and it was to Big Oscar.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, the other way around.

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Speaker 3: But in the moment, Dunkley was calling for the ball.

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Speaker 2: When that 50 metre was given away, there was a

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Speaker 1: But it was a big win and.

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Speaker 3: That was– I didn't think the Hawks-Port Adelaide game would

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Speaker 1: But it did. Still on the Brisbane game, this is

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Speaker 2: A 30-point– I know it was 44 points your boys

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Speaker 4: It is. It's amazing. Well, it was 31 points.

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Speaker 5: Early in the last day, no. When Toby Green kicked

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Speaker 4: But, you know, it was terrific. Brisbane.

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Speaker 4: Four, it's all things are even, I think. Absolutely. Because

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dog, it's all over. I'm so sad about Hawks.

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Speaker 2: Because next year, I won't give a shit about them.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the greater football public will care about

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Speaker 1: And they came close, man. Yeah, well, do you know what?

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Speaker 3: They didn't come to play in the first quarter and

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Speaker 1: That he needed to be.

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Speaker 4: Kenny's a psychopath.

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Speaker 1: The man's a psychopath.

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Speaker 3: I loved the way that they played Port Adelaide. I

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Speaker 1: One angle of that dump tackle.

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Speaker 2: Dubious.

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Speaker 1: His head bounced off the turf, mate. Don't give a

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Speaker 1: f * * k if it bounced off the moon.

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Speaker 1: Of the moon. It just wasn't there.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 3: They got ticky-touched with free kicks at crucial stages, and

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Speaker 3: you know, they won the free kick.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, Port Adelaide, you know, won the free kick count

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Speaker 2: Oh, shit.

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Speaker 3: And I thought if they'd won the game on Friday night,

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Speaker 1: A much better prepared team. Port Adelaide side.

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Speaker 3: I loved Kenny Hinkley having words to Jack Ginnivan after

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Speaker 1: That got blown up.

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Speaker 4: We loved it.

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Speaker 5: You're the first Hawthorne person that said that because most

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Speaker 1: They've overreacted.

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Speaker 5: Not on the fence, but they've been a bit, you know, like, look,

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Speaker 5: for Hawthorne people. Lee Matthews, Luke Hodge, Jordan Lewis and

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Speaker 5: Dermot Brierton have gone bananas in their criticism of Kenny Hinkley. However,

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Speaker 5: I'm backing Kenny up a bit here.

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Speaker 1: I think $ 20, 000 is excessive.

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Speaker 4: Ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: I can understand the please explain, but Jason McCartney got

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Speaker 3: $ 20, 000 factually making contact with Tommy Papley, an opposition player.

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Speaker 1: This is not even in the same ballpark.

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Speaker 4: What about Clarko at the start of the year?

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Jimmy Webster.

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Speaker 3: And tell me a person in the football world that

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Speaker 1: No one.

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Speaker 3: So, of course, this is a tribal, passionate sport. He's

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Speaker 3: He's standing there. Sure, in an ideal world, we want

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Speaker 3: Guinevan over there, right? And he's just on the plane

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Speaker 3: and saying, mate, you're not flying anywhere. You're not flying

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Speaker 1: And above all, it was entertaining to watch.

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Speaker 3: I can tell you right now when Port Adelaide play

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Speaker 1: And it'll become a thing. It is theatre. It'll be

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Speaker 1: pumped up on the networks. We all loved it. I

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Speaker 3: Holier than thou, you've got a 60-year-old man, you know, abusing.

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Speaker 4: A 21-year-old young.

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Speaker 5: Not a lot of people. Just Hawthorne people, Brown Dog.

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Speaker 5: Just Hawthorne people.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm a Hawthorne person and I thought I loved

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Speaker 3: were going to run your mouth, right, The opposition can

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Speaker 3: use it as motivation. And if it comes back to

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Speaker 3: that you should win, and we all thought that Hawthorne

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Speaker 3: And that's exactly what Kenny did.

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Speaker 4: It's all in the game.

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Speaker 1: We're adults. It's entertaining shit.

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Speaker 4: We are in the entertainment industry. You're spot on, Dino.

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Speaker 4: No question about that.

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Speaker 5: I loved when he got asked in the Postman press conference,

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Speaker 5: did you use Jack Ginnivan's post as motivation during the week?

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Speaker 4: Kenny replied with, fair bit.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's good.

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Speaker 4: I know, I know.

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Speaker 3: Kenny has hot sauce for blood. He is a hot shit, yes.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he might have saved his career, right? He

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Speaker 3: might have saved his career. He wasn't swearing. He wasn't

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Speaker 3: being demonstrative. It was an aeroplane.

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Speaker 1: Kenny is a loose man. Yeah, but he is, though.

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Speaker 4: You know what? You know what? He's got that dog

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 5: Actually, sorry, Kenny was coaching more like back in southwest Victoria.

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Speaker 5: I mean, old man was runner for Koroit, the opposition,

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Speaker 5: and And him and Dad got on an old occasion.

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Speaker 4: He whacked the old man and got reported for whacking

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Speaker 2: Also, Cicely kept, because I'm a lip reader, Cicely kept repeating,

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Speaker 1: That's what he kept saying. Is that right? Absolutely. What

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Speaker 3: Were getting interpreted. They didn't get interpreted as, you've been

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Speaker 4: That's right, who cares? It's all a theory of the game. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, look, I thought that some of the Hawthorne people

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Speaker 1: And that sort of got lost a little.

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Speaker 4: Bit in the wash.

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Speaker 2: But that's on Seth as well because he could have

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Speaker 3: You've got to understand, emotions are running that high, that high,

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Speaker 3: and he's the player that's just hit the post, like

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's good to see. That's why we love this great game.

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Speaker 2: Who pays that 20K? Does it have to come out.

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Speaker 4: Of his bank? It will come out of Kenny's pocket.

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Speaker 1: Is there any way they can make it sort of

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Speaker 4: Can't the clubs pay that, though?

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Speaker 5: Well, maybe soft cap. It'll be in the soft cap there.

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Speaker 5: You'd be willing to pay the tax on that. If

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Speaker 5: Kenny survives, because he probably goes, he loses that, he'd

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Speaker 1: I wonder what would the AFL do if Kenny just said,

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Speaker 1: you know what? I'm not paying it.

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Speaker 4: That's just excessive. Oh, no.

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Speaker 1: It's grossly excessive. They'd bring the hammer down, wouldn't they?

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Speaker 5: Well, I would have thought the amount of times he's

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Speaker 4: It feels as if they're not going to fight it.

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Speaker 5: They just want to move on and focus Friday night.

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Speaker 5: on Sydney, who they've beaten the last eight times.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there you go.

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Speaker 4: It's a little anomaly, isn't it? All of a sudden

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Speaker 3: These tiny margins in games, GWS, had they held on

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Speaker 3: Two years in a row. Brisbane can go on and

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Speaker 3: Port Adelaide, like they've got the wood over the swans. Hey, John,

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Speaker 3: the four to still be here.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and you've got to travel as well. So arduous trip,

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Speaker 5: go home, go back to Melbourne. But we're comfortable at

446
00:19:07,990 --> 00:19:11,480
Speaker 5: the MCG. They've got to defy history, no doubt about it.

447
00:19:11,490 --> 00:19:16,340
Speaker 5: We travelled in 2003 three times. However, it was broken

448
00:19:16,430 --> 00:19:18,480
Speaker 5: up with a game in between. We got beaten by

449
00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,040
Speaker 5: Collingwood in the first week because we finished top four.

450
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Speaker 5: Then we went home to Adelaide. Then we played away

451
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Speaker 5: in Sydney and then we came back for the grand final.

452
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Speaker 5: and beat Collingwood in the return game. So it's been

453
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Speaker 5: done before, but just not three weeks in a row.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of that dynasty team, Fly told that story last

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Speaker 2: week about John getting a mohawk in New Orleans, and

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Speaker 2: Jonathan found an image of it.

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Speaker 1: Can we put it on socials, Becky?

458
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Speaker 2: Mate, you look like a world-class shithead.

459
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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.

460
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Speaker 5: I look like a punk, The old barber gave me

461
00:19:50,180 --> 00:19:54,160
Speaker 5: this product called Hard Up Cement. I didn't know whether

462
00:19:54,180 --> 00:19:57,760
Speaker 5: it was a sex lubricant or a free hair, but

463
00:19:57,980 --> 00:20:00,520
Speaker 5: it was free hair and I looked like a punk rocker.

464
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Speaker 5: And I wore it with pride during my time there

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Speaker 5: in New Orleans.

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Speaker 4: Great mate, Timmy Notting.

467
00:20:05,850 --> 00:20:08,330
Speaker 5: But we've got that photo, so definitely get to the

468
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Speaker 5: Instagram pages there.

469
00:20:09,730 --> 00:20:12,260
Speaker 4: But no, it's great. It was a great weekend of footy.

470
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Speaker 4: I loved it.

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Speaker 5: I was at Port Adelaide. on Friday night. Sorry, we

472
00:20:15,710 --> 00:20:18,890
Speaker 5: were at the Adelaide Oval Friday night. And the crowd

473
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Speaker 5: and the energy in the crowd was unreal. I just

474
00:20:21,190 --> 00:20:24,720
Speaker 5: want to give something, too, to Zach Butters. Zach Butters

475
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,820
Speaker 5: clearly would have been jabbed up, would have been heavily

476
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Speaker 5: jabbed up with his ribs. But Zach Butters and Connor Rosey,

477
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,439
Speaker 5: two of their young leaders, to go out and do

478
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Speaker 5: what they did and especially apply themselves to the defensive

479
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Speaker 5: part of the game. It was sensational. And that's what

480
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Speaker 5: you've got to do. When you're playing at home, you've

481
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Speaker 5: got to allow the crowd to be involved.

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Speaker 4: In the game.

483
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Speaker 5: And those boys got the crowd involved. Connor Rose, he

484
00:20:46,270 --> 00:20:48,830
Speaker 5: had a big tackle in the first two minutes, holding

485
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Speaker 5: the ball, kicked the goal. I think they had five

486
00:20:50,730 --> 00:20:53,109
Speaker 5: holding the ball free kicks in the first quarter. That

487
00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:57,260
Speaker 5: gets the crowd engaged. And when you've got 50,000 crazy

488
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Speaker 5: supporters or 45, and there's a pretty handy amount of

489
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Speaker 5: Hawthorne supporters, but you've got your home crowd, they're energised

490
00:21:05,300 --> 00:21:07,070
Speaker 5: from that. And I felt like they were able to

491
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Speaker 5: sort of surge the players all throughout the night, Brown Dog.

492
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Speaker 5: And that was just great being there and such a

493
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Speaker 5: great night. Good seeing young players stand up too.

494
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Speaker 3: I thought Jace Burgoyne played the game of his life.

495
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Speaker 3: I thought that Logan Evans handled the pressure of finals

496
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 3: footy magnificently. I thought that Jordan Sweet, the former Bulldog,

497
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,020
Speaker 3: who couldn't get a game, he played it on meek

498
00:21:28,100 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 3: and won that battle. So there were little wins all

499
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Speaker 3: over the park for Port.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:21:35,890 --> 00:21:40,710
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll leave Hawthorne, you know, thinking, great year, you know,

502
00:21:41,050 --> 00:21:43,790
Speaker 3: fantastic season. We didn't expect it, but it certainly was

503
00:21:43,830 --> 00:21:44,830
Speaker 3: an opportunity lost.

504
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you said it well in the postgame, John,

505
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,859
Speaker 2: this will never happen again, this exact scenario where.

506
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Speaker 3: Weirdly everyone was going for him, it felt like. Because

507
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Speaker 3: they've got expectation now leading into next year. So all

508
00:21:56,460 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 3: of a sudden we know what to expect from them.

509
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Speaker 4: How good's the Weezer? Yeah, he's a freak, mate.

510
00:22:00,980 --> 00:22:02,850
Speaker 5: Mate, Jizzy lit them up and now all of a

511
00:22:02,869 --> 00:22:05,130
Speaker 5: sudden he's got really accurate during the final series when

512
00:22:05,170 --> 00:22:06,109
Speaker 5: he couldn't hit the side of a.

513
00:22:06,109 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 4: Barn in the first half.

514
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Speaker 5: I was asked by the producer to wear a wizard's

515
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,020
Speaker 5: hat at three-quarter time and I said, absolutely f *.

516
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Speaker 4: * * ing no way. I'm not wearing a wizard's hat.

517
00:22:17,060 --> 00:22:18,300
Speaker 4: I'm a Brisbane Lions supporter.

518
00:22:18,340 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 5: If it was Charlie Cameron, I might get up and

519
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 5: dress as John Denver and sing Country Ride. But I'm

520
00:22:23,460 --> 00:22:25,830
Speaker 5: not wearing a wizard's hat. But you've got to admire that.

521
00:22:25,850 --> 00:22:26,890
Speaker 5: The crowd's jumped on board.

522
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Speaker 1: If you put that wizard hat on, you know, Pangy

523
00:22:29,330 --> 00:22:32,730
Speaker 1: would have seen that. That would have got a run

524
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Speaker 1: on front bar over and over and over again.

525
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Speaker 3: The great thing about Brodie not being in here today

526
00:22:37,770 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 3: is that he won't be able to edit all the

527
00:22:40,340 --> 00:22:42,980
Speaker 3: things that I say inappropriately in this podcast out of

528
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Speaker 3: the potty. I just want to give a big shout-out

529
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Speaker 3: to someone, really, really courageous guy over the weekend. They're

530
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 3: eating the dogs. Is my man Donald Trump. They're eating

531
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Speaker 3: the dogs. They've tried to assassinate him again, right? They've

532
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 3: shot at him again. This is a man that's a

533
00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:06,770
Speaker 3: mix between Jack Bauer, Casey Ryback, John Rambo, James Bond

534
00:23:07,109 --> 00:23:07,810
Speaker 3: and Ethan Hunt.

535
00:23:07,950 --> 00:23:12,180
Speaker 1: They're eating the dogs. He can't be killed, baby. That's

536
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,020
Speaker 1: all I wanted to say. You love him, mate. You

537
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,020
Speaker 1: love him, and he's a bit of a dickhead, I've

538
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,420
Speaker 1: got to say. Dog, John.

539
00:23:17,900 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 5: What about Johnny from Die Hard?

540
00:23:21,180 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, chuck it in. John McClane. Yeah, John McClane.

541
00:23:24,020 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: You've got to have John McClane in there.

542
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,050
Speaker 2: To be clear, the image you showed me, the guy

543
00:23:29,070 --> 00:23:31,650
Speaker 2: in the mustard jacket, that's not Brownie, that's Shamo.

544
00:23:32,230 --> 00:23:33,170
Speaker 1: Brownie's the other guy.

545
00:23:33,190 --> 00:23:35,410
Speaker 4: No, that's Timmy Noddy. Timmy Noddy.

546
00:23:35,810 --> 00:23:38,030
Speaker 5: Well, that was me presenting him with his third down

547
00:23:38,050 --> 00:23:39,810
Speaker 5: low medal. He won the down low medal for best

548
00:23:39,890 --> 00:23:43,139
Speaker 5: on ground in that Duff race. Magnificent football trip in

549
00:23:43,140 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 5: 2003 to New Orleans.

550
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Speaker 2: After the ads, speaking about drinking trips and whatnot, Jonathan

551
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Speaker 2: has presented me with some audio. It's two minutes of just–

552
00:23:53,490 --> 00:23:55,949
Speaker 2: it's like a symphony, Jonathan. We'll get to it, and

553
00:23:55,970 --> 00:23:59,430
Speaker 2: then we'll have a look at the two.

554
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Speaker 1: Prelims going on. Back in a second. Welcome back to

555
00:24:02,250 --> 00:24:02,990
Speaker 1: Brownies Podcast.

556
00:24:03,010 --> 00:24:05,109
Speaker 2: We've got a lot to get to, including we'll do

557
00:24:05,130 --> 00:24:07,250
Speaker 2: a bit more worship of Joe.

558
00:24:07,090 --> 00:24:10,730
Speaker 1: Danaher, I think, because that was insane. But before that.

559
00:24:10,750 --> 00:24:12,669
Speaker 5: Would he be the only player that doesn't live in

560
00:24:12,690 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 5: the same state that he plays, boys?

561
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 4: What?

562
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, he lives down in Byron Bay.

563
00:24:16,900 --> 00:24:17,100
Speaker 4: What?

564
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: Yes, he drives up an hour and a half every

565
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Speaker 1: training session.

566
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 4: It's not that far.

567
00:24:21,770 --> 00:24:22,030
Speaker 5: Well.

568
00:24:22,430 --> 00:24:24,490
Speaker 4: Oh, mate, it'd be two hours probably. It'd be close

569
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Speaker 4: to two hours.

570
00:24:25,050 --> 00:24:27,629
Speaker 5: But, hey, he loves it. He's an unusual character. He

571
00:24:27,670 --> 00:24:30,340
Speaker 5: doesn't watch a hell of a lot of footy. Sits

572
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 5: down there and enjoys his time down there in isolation.

573
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,619
Speaker 5: I'm tipping they wouldn't know a hell of a lot

574
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Speaker 5: about the Brisbane Lions down there, Brown Dog.

575
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Speaker 3: They'd know nothing. They'd know things about hash cookies.

576
00:24:41,270 --> 00:24:41,790
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely.

577
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Speaker 1: And dream catchers. Dream catchers.

578
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Speaker 4: Jonathan.

579
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Speaker 1: Juteko breathing courses.

580
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Speaker 2: Speaking of driving an hour and a half, so Friday

581
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Speaker 2: night I watched the footy with a group of mates.

582
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Speaker 2: One of them has a place in the peninsula. And

583
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Speaker 2: they also live in the city. And during the week,

584
00:24:57,890 --> 00:24:59,570
Speaker 2: they said, we're all going to mine.

585
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Speaker 1: To watch the footy.

586
00:25:00,990 --> 00:25:02,910
Speaker 2: So I got in the car and drove to the peninsula,

587
00:25:02,930 --> 00:25:05,830
Speaker 2: hour and a half. And then I realized there was

588
00:25:05,869 --> 00:25:08,150
Speaker 2: no cars in the driveway. So I knew the code

589
00:25:08,170 --> 00:25:10,629
Speaker 2: to get into the house, kicked my shoes off. And

590
00:25:10,650 --> 00:25:13,260
Speaker 2: then the penny dropped that everyone was meeting at the

591
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Speaker 2: house in the city.

592
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,140
Speaker 4: Oh, no. You're kidding me.

593
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,379
Speaker 1: I drove to the peninsula for no reason.

594
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,179
Speaker 2: Then there was still 45 minutes before the game started,

595
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Speaker 2: so I drove back to the city.

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Speaker 1: You drove back?

597
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Speaker 4: It's unbelievable. Unbelievable.

598
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Speaker 1: What a waste of time. Three hours in the goddamn

599
00:25:29,510 --> 00:25:30,290
Speaker 1: Suzuki Swift.

600
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Speaker 4: Was it fun though, just by yourself?

601
00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:33,150
Speaker 1: Listen to some podcasts.

602
00:25:33,260 --> 00:25:34,940
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you listen to Brownies podcasts?

603
00:25:35,020 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: I listen to Brownies podcasts predominantly. I wonder how listeners

604
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 1: are up this week. He's listened to Brandy's podcast five times.

605
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,030
Speaker 4: Record listenership.

606
00:25:44,510 --> 00:25:46,370
Speaker 1: All right, we're going to get into this guy. So

607
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Speaker 1: his name is, what's his name, Jonathan? He's got a

608
00:25:48,190 --> 00:25:48,590
Speaker 1: strong name.

609
00:25:48,609 --> 00:25:49,330
Speaker 4: Kyle Ferguson.

610
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Speaker 1: Kyle Ferguson.

611
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Speaker 2: Now, he's gotten into a bit of trouble because of,

612
00:25:54,190 --> 00:25:57,220
Speaker 2: I'd say, his drinking. But anyway, have a listen to

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Speaker 2: this entire two-minute interview and then we'll discuss afterwards.

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Speaker 6: I do get on the piss a lot, but normally

615
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 6: I have a fun time on the piss. We go

616
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:11,070
Speaker 6: out to properties, we do burnouts, you know, typical 20-year-old stuff. Well,

617
00:26:11,109 --> 00:26:13,429
Speaker 6: what basically happened was yesterday I got a serve in

618
00:26:13,450 --> 00:26:17,500
Speaker 6: the mile. It's telling me I'm banned from basically every

619
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:18,619
Speaker 6: pub club.

620
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 4: Way up home.

621
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Speaker 6: Staffsmen here in WA forgot it. Yeah, which I think

622
00:26:22,790 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 6: is kind of un-Australian, to be honest. I'm being from everywhere.

623
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 4: Thank you, WA Police.

624
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Speaker 6: It was over just a little incident that happened at

625
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Speaker 6: a nightclub where a bouncer chucked me a wallet, so

626
00:26:34,670 --> 00:26:37,110
Speaker 6: I hit him. Well, I was out in the night

627
00:26:37,130 --> 00:26:39,730
Speaker 6: drinking with a bunch of Irish bloods, really good friends

628
00:26:39,750 --> 00:26:42,470
Speaker 6: of mine, and we went out to Paramount because I'd

629
00:26:42,510 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 6: never been there before.

630
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Speaker 4: And my ID's got a chip in it.

631
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Speaker 1: It's like cracked.

632
00:26:47,820 --> 00:26:48,820
Speaker 2: Oh, Jesus.

633
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,740
Speaker 4: As you can see, there's a big chip on the bastard.

634
00:26:52,180 --> 00:26:54,380
Speaker 6: From where I've stacked it on my motorbike and just

635
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,180
Speaker 6: haven't got it replaced because it can't be stuffed to.

636
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 6: So this bloke pulled me off out of the lawn

637
00:27:00,100 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 6: onto the street and said, look, mate, you can't come

638
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,220
Speaker 6: in here, not just because of your ID, just because

639
00:27:05,260 --> 00:27:05,899
Speaker 6: you're dressed like a.

640
00:27:05,859 --> 00:27:06,620
Speaker 4: F * * * ing redneck.

641
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 6: And it was like, oh, really? And he goes, well,

642
00:27:12,580 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 6: this is unfair. And he goes, chucks me wallet and

643
00:27:15,580 --> 00:27:17,100
Speaker 6: ID across the road. And he goes, what are you

644
00:27:17,140 --> 00:27:19,500
Speaker 6: going to do about it? And the only reasonable thought

645
00:27:19,540 --> 00:27:20,699
Speaker 6: going through my head was to hit him.

646
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:23,740
Speaker 4: I threw the first punch.

647
00:27:24,020 --> 00:27:25,419
Speaker 1: To be honest, I did muck up.

648
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,700
Speaker 4: It was my own mistake.

649
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 6: But I don't think a ban for a year from

650
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,070
Speaker 6: every pub in WA is fair. I call that just

651
00:27:34,090 --> 00:27:37,410
Speaker 6: an abuse of power. Someone most probably does not like

652
00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:39,590
Speaker 6: me in the higher-ups of WA police.

653
00:27:42,109 --> 00:27:44,490
Speaker 4: What? What? God, no.

654
00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:48,770
Speaker 6: I love the square beer, the old sugar cane champagne,

655
00:27:48,869 --> 00:27:52,330
Speaker 6: all too much to not give that up. No, look,

656
00:27:52,410 --> 00:27:56,330
Speaker 6: I've got mates, and Jimmy Brings is an online alcohol service,

657
00:27:56,350 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 6: so I'm pretty sure those are allowed. I just can't

658
00:28:00,580 --> 00:28:03,540
Speaker 6: walk into an alcohol establishment. My mum's disappointed in me,

659
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:04,420
Speaker 6: Dad's disappointed.

660
00:28:04,780 --> 00:28:07,100
Speaker 4: But, oh, well, you know, that happens. But all me

661
00:28:07,140 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 4: mates say I'm a bloody legend.

662
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: I need to get it framed.

663
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 6: And there's certainly six other states I can go to

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Speaker 6: to drink.

665
00:28:13,859 --> 00:28:14,980
Speaker 4: Oh, my God.

666
00:28:15,500 --> 00:28:16,460
Speaker 1: There's a lot to unpack.

667
00:28:16,540 --> 00:28:18,020
Speaker 4: All right, first of all.

668
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,780
Speaker 1: He had a cowboy hat on in the interview.

669
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:20,379
Speaker 4: He did, yeah.

670
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,060
Speaker 1: First of all, his pronunciation of Jesus.

671
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,940
Speaker 4: Jesus. Jesus.

672
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: The paramount is the paramount in WA.

673
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 4: It's one of the most spoken.

674
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: And what do you reckon?

675
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,300
Speaker 4: How did you describe Boos? Sugarcane. The sugar cane champagne.

676
00:28:32,460 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 4: The old square bear.

677
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,430
Speaker 1: I've never heard it called the square bear.

678
00:28:36,550 --> 00:28:40,010
Speaker 5: Neither have I. What does that mean? How come you

679
00:28:40,030 --> 00:28:41,850
Speaker 5: couldn't get in there because the bouncer thought I was

680
00:28:41,890 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 5: dressed like a redneck? The only reasonable thought going through

681
00:28:45,930 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 5: my head there was to hit you.

682
00:28:47,620 --> 00:28:49,459
Speaker 1: And then he goes straight away, now, I did muck up.

683
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: That was wrong.

684
00:28:50,220 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 4: Kyle Ferguson. Live and learn.

685
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: He's just a young man. Unbelievable stuff. Quintessential Aussie. Aussie ochre.

686
00:28:59,380 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 4: Jimmy Brings would have been wrapped for the mention there.

687
00:29:02,060 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: He fit in a plug somehow. It's unbelievable. All right,

688
00:29:04,260 --> 00:29:07,140
Speaker 1: let's go to the games this weekend. Port, Sydney. Have

689
00:29:07,180 --> 00:29:11,610
Speaker 1: Port played their big one? That's my fear. No, I

690
00:29:11,650 --> 00:29:14,770
Speaker 1: don't think so. They'll get up again. They will get

691
00:29:14,830 --> 00:29:15,230
Speaker 1: up again.

692
00:29:15,270 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 3: They... are a good side when they are committed to

693
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 3: the contest. That's what I'll say. I don't know what

694
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,810
Speaker 3: happened in week one against Geelong, if they just thought

695
00:29:26,830 --> 00:29:30,810
Speaker 3: it would happen, right? But they're a different side on

696
00:29:30,830 --> 00:29:33,170
Speaker 3: the weekend. If they can bring that same level of energy.

697
00:29:33,190 --> 00:29:34,350
Speaker 4: And heat.

698
00:29:34,630 --> 00:29:36,730
Speaker 3: And heat, you know, and their young blokes can step

699
00:29:36,810 --> 00:29:42,530
Speaker 3: up again. I thought, look, was outstanding. I don't know

700
00:29:42,550 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 3: if this was coincidence, JB. You can answer this. Marshall

701
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 3: in for Charlie Dixon. I know Marshall got subbed out sore,

702
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,980
Speaker 3: but were they a better structured forward line without Big Charlie?

703
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,610
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were, no doubt about it. Willy Rioli was unbelievable. Willy!

704
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,350
Speaker 4: You're right about the bit. Willy's a star.

705
00:30:00,370 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 3: Oh, my God.

706
00:30:00,630 --> 00:30:02,170
Speaker 5: We know how important he was when they won the

707
00:30:02,210 --> 00:30:05,729
Speaker 5: flag in 2018 West Coast Eagles. He's so important. He's

708
00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:07,750
Speaker 5: the glue that holds that forward line together. I love

709
00:30:07,770 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 5: George Yardley's game. He's spot on. I actually love the

710
00:30:11,150 --> 00:30:13,980
Speaker 5: key forwards response this weekend after a lot of people

711
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,620
Speaker 5: were writing them off last week about their influence on finals.

712
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 5: You look at Danaher, you look at Jesse Hogan up

713
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,900
Speaker 5: the other end, you look at Cicely in the last

714
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 5: quarter for Hawthorne, and you look at Mitch Giorgiati's performance.

715
00:30:24,260 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 4: You need your big key forwards.

716
00:30:25,620 --> 00:30:27,350
Speaker 5: You need them firing, and those boys are able to

717
00:30:27,370 --> 00:30:28,290
Speaker 5: stand up and deliver.

718
00:30:28,790 --> 00:30:30,130
Speaker 4: So, you know, I'm.

719
00:30:30,190 --> 00:30:33,070
Speaker 5: Looking forward to it. I love a matchup win. A

720
00:30:33,130 --> 00:30:35,090
Speaker 5: team's had a wood over the other team, and they're

721
00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:38,750
Speaker 5: the underdogs. So for whatever reason, whatever Port Adelaide does,

722
00:30:38,990 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 5: when they bring the heat, when they bring the pressure,

723
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,140
Speaker 5: Sydney don't seem to be able to handle that at

724
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 5: the moment. If Port can get their match-ups right, Willem

725
00:30:46,180 --> 00:30:48,380
Speaker 5: Drew's going to obviously have a really important match-up. He's

726
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,709
Speaker 5: going to shut some of the other boys away. There

727
00:30:50,750 --> 00:30:53,230
Speaker 5: are fighters' chance, but at the end of the day,

728
00:30:53,270 --> 00:30:54,970
Speaker 5: you can't underestimate the week off.

729
00:30:55,230 --> 00:30:57,290
Speaker 4: Yes. And the week off when they're freshened up.

730
00:30:57,450 --> 00:30:58,060
Speaker 1: It's Sydney.

731
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,540
Speaker 3: And Callum Mills has done his hammy on the track

732
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 3: during the week, so he's going to be out and

733
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 3: fighting the clock to get through to a granny should

734
00:31:04,660 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 3: they make it.

735
00:31:05,130 --> 00:31:05,930
Speaker 1: I love the fact that.

736
00:31:06,700 --> 00:31:12,170
Speaker 3: For the first time this year, a player went to Ambrosio,

737
00:31:12,690 --> 00:31:13,150
Speaker 3: the winger.

738
00:31:13,350 --> 00:31:14,450
Speaker 4: Willem Drew went to him.

739
00:31:14,870 --> 00:31:18,870
Speaker 3: He's just been rolling around the wing without anyone near him,

740
00:31:18,910 --> 00:31:20,090
Speaker 3: and he's a beautiful user.

741
00:31:20,110 --> 00:31:23,290
Speaker 1: So you'd think that Drew will go to probably Warner.

742
00:31:23,310 --> 00:31:25,860
Speaker 5: And then the move, Brown Dog. This is brave in

743
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,060
Speaker 5: the coach because quite often you put a cooler on

744
00:31:28,100 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 5: someone and it's working. You're reluctant to make a change in-game.

745
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,380
Speaker 5: So obviously, John Newcombe looked like he was going to

746
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,060
Speaker 5: be the Hawthorne player that was going to win the

747
00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:36,550
Speaker 5: game for him.

748
00:31:37,330 --> 00:31:38,150
Speaker 4: In the clinches.

749
00:31:38,170 --> 00:31:41,850
Speaker 5: So it would have been tough.

750
00:31:41,870 --> 00:31:42,060
Speaker 3: They are.

751
00:31:42,090 --> 00:31:42,390
Speaker 6: That's right.

752
00:31:42,410 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 5: A tough decision by the Port Adelaide coach staff to

753
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 5: make that switch. They got Drew then on to Newcomb,

754
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 5: and he did a good job. Newcomb's still got some touches,

755
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,350
Speaker 5: but he's able to just call his influence and obviously

756
00:31:52,370 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 5: help them get.

757
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:53,310
Speaker 4: Over the line.

758
00:31:53,330 --> 00:31:55,729
Speaker 1: So do you send Drew to Heaney or Warner?

759
00:31:57,660 --> 00:32:02,460
Speaker 5: Well, he can play a bit more forward, I feel like,

760
00:32:02,580 --> 00:32:07,500
Speaker 5: as in deeper forward. Drew's probably not as comfortable deep,

761
00:32:07,740 --> 00:32:10,860
Speaker 5: so my tendency then would go to Warner because he's

762
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 5: going to be more around the ball. Now, they do

763
00:32:13,620 --> 00:32:17,510
Speaker 5: something with Goulden as well. I'm not sure, but Drew

764
00:32:17,650 --> 00:32:20,350
Speaker 5: played on the wing the other night against Ambrosia, so

765
00:32:20,370 --> 00:32:22,850
Speaker 5: he could go to Goulden as well. It's just going

766
00:32:22,870 --> 00:32:24,690
Speaker 5: to be interesting to see where that settles up. That'll

767
00:32:24,710 --> 00:32:27,850
Speaker 5: be a great game. I'm expecting Sydney to turn it around.

768
00:32:28,230 --> 00:32:30,890
Speaker 5: I think Sydney will win, but I wouldn't be surprised

769
00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:35,910
Speaker 5: if Port Adelaide knocked them over. Then Saturday, twilight, 5.15 p.m., MCG.

770
00:32:35,930 --> 00:32:38,810
Speaker 5: What's the crowd figure, Brown Dog? Do they get over 80?

771
00:32:38,810 --> 00:32:39,710
Speaker 5: I think they'll get 80, yeah.

772
00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:43,630
Speaker 3: We're not going to get sort of high 90s like

773
00:32:43,670 --> 00:32:46,709
Speaker 3: we did for the Doggies and Hawks game, but certainly

774
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:49,990
Speaker 3: 80,000 will pack the MCG. All the Geelong supporters will

775
00:32:50,010 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: drive down the highway. Yeah, look, I can't really decide

776
00:32:55,620 --> 00:32:58,300
Speaker 3: on who wins this game. I think it's a genuine

777
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 3: 50-50 contest.

778
00:32:59,780 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: Four states represented left in the finals. That's pretty good there.

779
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,010
Speaker 1: I'll be pretty chuffed about that.

780
00:33:05,030 --> 00:33:07,810
Speaker 5: You sort of need a Brisbane contest. Work's going to

781
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:10,190
Speaker 5: have to be more consistent. Contest and pressure for them.

782
00:33:10,830 --> 00:33:14,290
Speaker 5: Help with their territory. They can't allow the Geelong forwards,

783
00:33:14,310 --> 00:33:17,210
Speaker 5: especially those little nipsy forwards, those little fast blokes like

784
00:33:17,250 --> 00:33:20,690
Speaker 5: Myers and Close and the like, and Jeremy Cameron, to

785
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 5: get up the field and turn them around, Brown Dog.

786
00:33:23,860 --> 00:33:27,580
Speaker 5: That's where Brisbane will be vulnerable. So they can't allow

787
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 5: that to turn into a slingshot game.

788
00:33:29,420 --> 00:33:34,020
Speaker 3: Does Scottie even consider bringing Tomahawk in or not? Their

789
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 3: VFL side lost last weekend, so there's no football for him.

790
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,660
Speaker 4: You know what, Chris Scott.

791
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,150
Speaker 5: You know, he'll always have a surprise for you. But

792
00:33:44,250 --> 00:33:46,690
Speaker 5: I'd be surprised if he did this. I thought Shannon

793
00:33:46,730 --> 00:33:48,590
Speaker 5: Neal did his job. I thought that team that beat

794
00:33:48,610 --> 00:33:51,450
Speaker 5: Port Adelaide were fantastic. I think he'd be reluctant to

795
00:33:51,490 --> 00:33:52,610
Speaker 5: make any changes, dog.

796
00:33:53,010 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: What's the best grand final combination left in terms of spice,

797
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:57,260
Speaker 2: do we think?

798
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,900
Speaker 5: Well, Sydney-Geelong happened two years ago, didn't it?

799
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: It was the worst grand final in modern history. Yeah,

800
00:34:04,420 --> 00:34:06,070
Speaker 1: it was a complete letdown.

801
00:34:06,530 --> 00:34:09,070
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what I would love. I'd love Port

802
00:34:09,110 --> 00:34:11,450
Speaker 4: Adelaide to win and Brisbane to win, and then.

803
00:34:11,390 --> 00:34:15,010
Speaker 5: It's a repeat of the 2004 grand final, 20 years later,

804
00:34:15,570 --> 00:34:16,509
Speaker 5: and then Brisbane.

805
00:34:16,890 --> 00:34:17,750
Speaker 4: F * * * ing smash them.

806
00:34:17,670 --> 00:34:22,180
Speaker 3: Off the park for redemption. If Port Adelaide did win,

807
00:34:22,219 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 3: there might be the old Williams, Alan Scott, you were wrong,

808
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 3: for Kenny Hinckley. He'd have a few people fair and

809
00:34:31,700 --> 00:34:33,009
Speaker 3: square lined up in the gun.

810
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,610
Speaker 1: If this is how Jack Brown reacted after a semi.

811
00:34:38,690 --> 00:34:41,069
Speaker 1: What happens if you win the grand final, John?

812
00:34:41,110 --> 00:34:42,070
Speaker 4: It's going to be astonishing.

813
00:34:42,090 --> 00:34:43,110
Speaker 1: That boy's going to die.

814
00:34:43,230 --> 00:34:44,169
Speaker 4: I don't think I'll.

815
00:34:44,070 --> 00:34:46,250
Speaker 5: Do a Billy Brownless and be crying on the boundary line,

816
00:34:46,270 --> 00:34:49,420
Speaker 5: but it'll be a magnificent turnaround by the Mighty Lions.

817
00:34:49,460 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 5: But Geelong, they've got a terrific side. They'll be well-rested.

818
00:34:54,140 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 5: Dangerfield's always a problem, isn't he? He's up like a bull.

819
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,270
Speaker 5: He's fully energised. Geelong's coaching staff does a magnificent job.

820
00:35:01,870 --> 00:35:03,969
Speaker 5: To get their match-ups right week in, week out. But

821
00:35:03,989 --> 00:35:05,970
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, that's a pretty even match-up,

822
00:35:06,070 --> 00:35:07,610
Speaker 5: I agree. So looking forward to that one.

823
00:35:07,850 --> 00:35:13,910
Speaker 1: Doug, you've been called up to commentate. No, no, I haven't.

824
00:35:13,930 --> 00:35:16,450
Speaker 1: I have got the VFL Grand Final this week.

825
00:35:16,489 --> 00:35:16,770
Speaker 5: Oh, right.

826
00:35:16,850 --> 00:35:18,610
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is Werribee and Southport.

827
00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:21,549
Speaker 4: Sweet. And it was interesting.

828
00:35:21,570 --> 00:35:24,780
Speaker 3: If Brisbane had won and it was Brisbane versus Southport,

829
00:35:24,820 --> 00:35:28,260
Speaker 3: the VFL Grand Final would have had two Queensland sides,

830
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 3: would have been played up.

831
00:35:30,140 --> 00:35:33,629
Speaker 1: In Queensland. Where there's no broadcast equipment. They have to

832
00:35:33,930 --> 00:35:34,910
Speaker 1: ship everything up.

833
00:35:35,350 --> 00:35:35,670
Speaker 4: Everything.

834
00:35:35,710 --> 00:35:36,350
Speaker 1: Yes, Jonathan.

835
00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:39,590
Speaker 5: Brown Dog, were you concerned about the big signing of

836
00:35:39,650 --> 00:35:42,430
Speaker 5: Kane Corns? Like he's now there's one less spot on

837
00:35:42,469 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 5: the roster for next year. No, I'm definitely not worried.

838
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 5: If anything, you know, I think me and him can work.

839
00:35:50,020 --> 00:35:51,700
Speaker 4: Collaborate. Collaborate for Corn Dog.

840
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,910
Speaker 1: I mean, Corn Dog's going to take this. Starsky and

841
00:35:53,969 --> 00:35:57,770
Speaker 1: Hutt style, you know. Torval and Dean's. Mate, he teed

842
00:35:57,830 --> 00:35:58,670
Speaker 1: off on GWS.

843
00:35:58,730 --> 00:36:03,230
Speaker 3: He teed off on Gostradamus, Timmy Gossage. He had everyone

844
00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 3: in the gun on the weekend. So I was sitting

845
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,860
Speaker 3: back on the couch just before Saturday night's game thinking, geez,

846
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 3: they've obviously used Jude Bolton as the– the boundary rider

847
00:36:18,580 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 3: this week to save airfares and accommodation because he's a

848
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,660
Speaker 3: Sydney guy. It just makes sense.

849
00:36:22,700 --> 00:36:26,100
Speaker 1: Absolutely. And lo and behold, when Lingie did the first cross,

850
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: I went, hang on a second.

851
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:27,980
Speaker 4: Hang on.

852
00:36:28,460 --> 00:36:32,089
Speaker 1: They've got a Melbourne man up there.

853
00:36:32,210 --> 00:36:35,710
Speaker 4: You should have been there Friday night, Brandock. No. Your team. Yeah,

854
00:36:35,810 --> 00:36:36,089
Speaker 4: I know.

855
00:36:36,989 --> 00:36:37,490
Speaker 2: No, truly.

856
00:36:37,530 --> 00:36:38,270
Speaker 4: No, honestly.

857
00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:40,670
Speaker 5: A lot of your ex-teammates were pissed in the crowd.

858
00:36:40,690 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 5: I was like Smith and all the boys that had

859
00:36:43,180 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 5: a long lunch and they kept crossing to them and

860
00:36:45,620 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 5: showing them in the crowd.

861
00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 3: John, you can tell they started at Fugazi and then

862
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:50,660
Speaker 3: walked to the ground.

863
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,010
Speaker 1: But they were flying.

864
00:36:52,030 --> 00:36:52,630
Speaker 4: Having a big one.

865
00:36:52,690 --> 00:36:55,270
Speaker 1: You should have been there as a representative of Hawthorne.

866
00:36:55,590 --> 00:37:00,470
Speaker 3: Well, I teed up Hawks Radio for this Friday night

867
00:37:00,510 --> 00:37:02,940
Speaker 3: in Sydney, should they have got through. So I was

868
00:37:02,980 --> 00:37:05,380
Speaker 3: looking a week in advance as well, probably like a

869
00:37:05,380 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 3: lot of the Hawthorne people.

870
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,460
Speaker 5: Well, at the end of the day, I feel as

871
00:37:08,540 --> 00:37:12,250
Speaker 5: if the boss of Channel 7, and I don't want

872
00:37:12,290 --> 00:37:12,710
Speaker 5: to name him.

873
00:37:12,830 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, do it.

874
00:37:13,290 --> 00:37:16,150
Speaker 5: But Chris Jones has got the new role there as

875
00:37:16,170 --> 00:37:19,020
Speaker 5: head of sport for Channel 7, and He's a very

876
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 5: close friend with Brown Dog, and I feel there's a

877
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,049
Speaker 5: bit of anti-nepotism. So when you're worried about nepotism, you're

878
00:37:25,070 --> 00:37:28,310
Speaker 5: worried about favouritism, you're worried about the public looking at

879
00:37:28,350 --> 00:37:31,250
Speaker 5: you saying you are favouring one of your best mates,

880
00:37:31,570 --> 00:37:34,260
Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden you veer away from them.

881
00:37:34,340 --> 00:37:36,620
Speaker 5: You veer away from what's the most obvious. You go,

882
00:37:36,700 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 5: Brown Dog, former premiership player on the boundary, riling up

883
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 5: the Port Adelaide crowd like, What better.

884
00:37:42,940 --> 00:37:44,140
Speaker 4: Entertainment is that? Makes sense.

885
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: Who knows?

886
00:37:44,820 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 4: If he had been.

887
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,700
Speaker 5: Out there when Kenny Hinkley was going berserk, it might

888
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,549
Speaker 5: have been Brown Dog, not James Cicely in between him

889
00:37:50,570 --> 00:37:51,629
Speaker 5: and Jack Kidman.

890
00:37:51,989 --> 00:37:55,470
Speaker 4: Chris Jones has missed the mark. I'm telling you now.

891
00:37:56,110 --> 00:37:58,650
Speaker 2: When Hinks was popping off, Campbell would have been stirring

892
00:37:58,670 --> 00:38:00,010
Speaker 2: him up like a schoolyard fight.

893
00:38:00,030 --> 00:38:02,990
Speaker 1: Campbell would have been like, get him, get him, get him.

894
00:38:03,070 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 3: I went to a Hawthorne meeting a couple of years

895
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,900
Speaker 3: ago and I sat next to the great Don Scott.

896
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:07,379
Speaker 6: Oh, yes.

897
00:38:07,860 --> 00:38:11,270
Speaker 3: And it was the new president, Andy Gow, was just–

898
00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 3: breaking bread with everyone after what has been a tumultuous

899
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,850
Speaker 3: couple of years. And he opened up to the floor

900
00:38:19,930 --> 00:38:23,270
Speaker 3: after addressing, you know, these rival factions that, you know,

901
00:38:23,290 --> 00:38:26,379
Speaker 3: were not overly happy with the direction of the footy club.

902
00:38:26,980 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 3: And Don Scott opened up a notepad and had his

903
00:38:30,460 --> 00:38:30,859
Speaker 3: pen there.

904
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 4: Yes.

905
00:38:31,580 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 3: And he goes, Andy– I'd like to say a few words.

906
00:38:35,020 --> 00:38:38,930
Speaker 3: And he started addressing all these dot points, right? And

907
00:38:39,190 --> 00:38:41,330
Speaker 3: some of them, they were heavy hitting, like hitting Andy

908
00:38:41,590 --> 00:38:42,870
Speaker 3: Gowers right between the eyes.

909
00:38:42,969 --> 00:38:43,109
Speaker 6: Right.

910
00:38:43,450 --> 00:38:47,190
Speaker 3: And I sat there and I kept sort of just

911
00:38:47,530 --> 00:38:50,470
Speaker 3: pointing at the ones, the dot points that he'd missed, right?

912
00:38:50,489 --> 00:38:52,750
Speaker 3: And I was really trying to just stir him up

913
00:38:52,820 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: because while everyone around him were getting uncomfortable from feeling

914
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,060
Speaker 3: challenged and everything, I just bathed, mate, in anger.

915
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 4: In areas where people are feeling intimidated or.

916
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,060
Speaker 1: You sit in it like a kiddie. Oh, I just

917
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,220
Speaker 1: love it, mate. I absolutely love it. I just, I love.

918
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:14,219
Speaker 3: Needling people to the point where, you know, they feel really,

919
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,509
Speaker 3: really uncomfortable. Got to the point where Andy goes, hey,

920
00:39:16,530 --> 00:39:19,250
Speaker 3: let's address this over a coffee another time, not in

921
00:39:19,290 --> 00:39:21,390
Speaker 3: front of everyone. And I'm there going, no, no, no, mate,

922
00:39:21,410 --> 00:39:22,430
Speaker 3: don't take that.

923
00:39:22,469 --> 00:39:23,710
Speaker 4: Get this point out, get that point out.

924
00:39:23,989 --> 00:39:24,549
Speaker 1: Hey, guess what?

925
00:39:24,690 --> 00:39:26,690
Speaker 4: Yeah. What a world today. after.

926
00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:28,230
Speaker 1: You're bathing people's misery.

927
00:39:28,770 --> 00:39:30,140
Speaker 4: You're bathing people's shit.

928
00:39:30,340 --> 00:39:31,660
Speaker 1: In their misery. You're a shit bather.

929
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 4: In their misery. Hey, boys, should we do Dusty before

930
00:39:35,700 --> 00:39:36,700
Speaker 4: What A World? Yeah, let's discuss it.

931
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: We'll come back.

932
00:39:37,260 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 4: We'll come back. Okay.

933
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,370
Speaker 2: Ads back in a second. Welcome back to Brownies Podcast. Bec,

934
00:39:42,430 --> 00:39:47,450
Speaker 2: your hangover is palpable. As adults, like older people, we

935
00:39:47,489 --> 00:39:50,779
Speaker 2: can give you advice. Drink water before you go to

936
00:39:50,820 --> 00:39:51,580
Speaker 2: bed on a big night.

937
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,620
Speaker 3: At that point, I had no thoughts.

938
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,020
Speaker 4: Sure, sure.

939
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,379
Speaker 5: Bec, Bec, you always have a cigarette and a can

940
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,020
Speaker 5: of Coke before you go to sleep on a big night.

941
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,050
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, it'll bring you back from the dead.

942
00:40:05,070 --> 00:40:08,570
Speaker 5: You'll wake up fresh as a daisy. You'll shoot five

943
00:40:08,610 --> 00:40:09,669
Speaker 5: in the par the next morning.

944
00:40:11,710 --> 00:40:16,410
Speaker 1: You're a ridiculous man. Hey, Dusty, is this Gold Coast

945
00:40:16,430 --> 00:40:18,590
Speaker 1: thing real? What actually do we know? Do you know

946
00:40:18,610 --> 00:40:20,060
Speaker 1: who loved the article coming out?

947
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:20,580
Speaker 6: Ox.

948
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,540
Speaker 3: Because he's the man that was just staunch all the

949
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,060
Speaker 3: way through. He refused to back down. He refused to concede.

950
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,850
Speaker 3: And this keeps his dream alive. And he might be vindicated.

951
00:40:30,870 --> 00:40:34,810
Speaker 3: I personally don't think that the Gold Coast Suns need Dusty.

952
00:40:35,430 --> 00:40:38,050
Speaker 3: Not at his age, not at how he finished at Richmond.

953
00:40:38,070 --> 00:40:38,609
Speaker 1: Where would he play?

954
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:41,549
Speaker 5: What about an energised Dusty? So clearly this year he

955
00:40:41,590 --> 00:40:44,930
Speaker 5: wasn't motivated. And look, you could understand it was challenging

956
00:40:44,969 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 5: for where Richmond are at at this stage of their development,

957
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,739
Speaker 5: that he lost that real fight and then obviously had

958
00:40:51,780 --> 00:40:52,580
Speaker 5: injury problems.

959
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,379
Speaker 4: What about if you've got a really motivated Dusty?

960
00:40:55,420 --> 00:40:57,939
Speaker 5: He's had a great pre-season, he's healthy, and obviously he

961
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,620
Speaker 5: knows Gold Coast are heading upwards.

962
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, they certainly– well, we hope they're heading upwards. Is

963
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,750
Speaker 3: he going to be around– to help win him a flag? Like,

964
00:41:06,810 --> 00:41:09,230
Speaker 3: is he going to be the Stewie Judah Hawthorne in

965
00:41:09,230 --> 00:41:09,810
Speaker 3: 08 sort of thing?

966
00:41:10,469 --> 00:41:11,190
Speaker 4: I'm not sure.

967
00:41:11,370 --> 00:41:11,730
Speaker 6: Hold on.

968
00:41:11,930 --> 00:41:12,190
Speaker 4: Hold on.

969
00:41:12,250 --> 00:41:13,710
Speaker 1: If you put him in the forward pocket, he wouldn't

970
00:41:13,730 --> 00:41:15,330
Speaker 1: be on ball, obviously, at this age.

971
00:41:15,610 --> 00:41:18,570
Speaker 2: So Dusty in the forward pocket would be more valuable

972
00:41:18,610 --> 00:41:20,330
Speaker 2: than whoever's there now, surely.

973
00:41:20,989 --> 00:41:23,770
Speaker 3: Potentially, but you've got to balance up whether, you know,

974
00:41:23,810 --> 00:41:25,610
Speaker 3: he'd want a certain amount of money.

975
00:41:26,110 --> 00:41:27,430
Speaker 1: 300K, I heard, being chucked around.

976
00:41:27,450 --> 00:41:28,270
Speaker 4: Is that right? That's pennies.

977
00:41:29,410 --> 00:41:30,910
Speaker 1: Well, at the end of.

978
00:41:30,750 --> 00:41:33,770
Speaker 5: The day, from what we can only be led to believe,

979
00:41:34,670 --> 00:41:39,469
Speaker 5: what people tell us. And they say that it's been

980
00:41:39,489 --> 00:41:41,460
Speaker 5: more dusty that's made the approach to the Sun. So

981
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,900
Speaker 5: obviously the Suns would do their due diligence. But the

982
00:41:43,940 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 5: fact of the matter is if he's made the approach,

983
00:41:46,300 --> 00:41:48,580
Speaker 5: he must be willing to play for a small figure

984
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 5: in the context of what he's been on previously. Because

985
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:53,009
Speaker 5: that's right, there's only one way he gets it done.

986
00:41:53,050 --> 00:41:56,230
Speaker 5: And unfortunately for the AFL, they couldn't justify paying him

987
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,130
Speaker 5: much in ambassadorial money because we know Dusty is reluctant

988
00:42:00,150 --> 00:42:01,290
Speaker 5: to do anything publicly.

989
00:42:01,310 --> 00:42:02,790
Speaker 4: So that wouldn't work.

990
00:42:03,630 --> 00:42:06,569
Speaker 5: But is it about winning the premiership, Brown Dog, or

991
00:42:06,830 --> 00:42:08,790
Speaker 5: is it about building that bridge to get him to

992
00:42:08,850 --> 00:42:11,450
Speaker 5: that premiership and maybe having a Dustin Martin there with

993
00:42:11,489 --> 00:42:12,630
Speaker 5: his experience for a.

994
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,860
Speaker 4: Couple of years, helping him build that bridge might be enough?

995
00:42:15,980 --> 00:42:16,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe.

996
00:42:18,020 --> 00:42:20,259
Speaker 3: The premiership would be utopia for him, but they just

997
00:42:20,300 --> 00:42:23,969
Speaker 3: need a guy that– is able to teach them what

998
00:42:24,010 --> 00:42:26,049
Speaker 3: success looks like. Because at the moment, none of those

999
00:42:26,110 --> 00:42:28,830
Speaker 3: players have any idea what success looks like because they've

1000
00:42:28,850 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: never played finals. Yeah, I think the more people with

1001
00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:34,540
Speaker 3: premiership experience and finals experience on.

1002
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 4: The list, if they've still got the want and the.

1003
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 5: Will and the health to play AFL football– I think

1004
00:42:41,660 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 5: there's more positives than negatives for where the Gold Coast

1005
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 5: list are at, if he's willing to play within the

1006
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:46,700
Speaker 5: salary cap.

1007
00:42:46,820 --> 00:42:46,980
Speaker 4: Yep.

1008
00:42:47,620 --> 00:42:49,950
Speaker 1: All right, time four. What a world.

1009
00:42:49,989 --> 00:42:53,610
Speaker 3: Now, this what a world actually includes me for the

1010
00:42:53,650 --> 00:42:56,089
Speaker 3: first time ever because I'll tell you a little scenario.

1011
00:42:56,270 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 4: Yes. Can we.

1012
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,669
Speaker 3: Once a week, I gather around with five or six

1013
00:43:01,730 --> 00:43:02,630
Speaker 3: likely types.

1014
00:43:02,650 --> 00:43:06,090
Speaker 1: You put on gift masks? We have a couple of

1015
00:43:06,130 --> 00:43:06,690
Speaker 1: red blinds.

1016
00:43:06,730 --> 00:43:09,669
Speaker 4: Yes. And we just- Snooker ball in the mouth, all

1017
00:43:09,690 --> 00:43:10,310
Speaker 4: those sorts of things.

1018
00:43:10,330 --> 00:43:12,540
Speaker 3: We just talk a little bit of shop, bit of work,

1019
00:43:12,580 --> 00:43:14,460
Speaker 3: bit of footy, bit of racing, bit of whatever. And

1020
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,860
Speaker 3: every couple of weeks, we come up with a topic, right?

1021
00:43:18,420 --> 00:43:23,020
Speaker 3: And you go around the list. And the topic a

1022
00:43:23,060 --> 00:43:26,089
Speaker 3: few weeks ago was the biggest frauds in football, right?

1023
00:43:26,110 --> 00:43:30,780
Speaker 3: And they can be administrators- players, coaches, supporters.

1024
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:31,580
Speaker 4: Presidents, whatever.

1025
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:32,739
Speaker 1: Would you divulge any of that?

1026
00:43:32,820 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: No, no, definitely not. And you do a bit of

1027
00:43:35,060 --> 00:43:39,350
Speaker 3: a list and away you go. Last Thursday it was

1028
00:43:39,830 --> 00:43:43,710
Speaker 3: the unfunniest comedians in the world.

1029
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:44,650
Speaker 1: You're a brave man.

1030
00:43:44,710 --> 00:43:47,450
Speaker 3: So you'd all give your selection and then you've got 30,

1031
00:43:47,450 --> 00:43:48,689
Speaker 3: 40 seconds why you need.

1032
00:43:48,590 --> 00:43:49,390
Speaker 1: To justify it.

1033
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:49,620
Speaker 3: Yep.

1034
00:43:50,020 --> 00:43:52,900
Speaker 1: And then you can have some rebuttal, right, and it

1035
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 1: goes on the list.

1036
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,830
Speaker 3: So I– I said to the guys, next week I

1037
00:43:58,850 --> 00:44:00,830
Speaker 3: want to have a topic of.

1038
00:44:02,030 --> 00:44:04,730
Speaker 4: the worst people you've met in the media, right?

1039
00:44:04,810 --> 00:44:06,170
Speaker 1: I think I might have used the words.

1040
00:44:05,969 --> 00:44:07,890
Speaker 4: F * * kwits. Oh, sure.

1041
00:44:08,300 --> 00:44:09,860
Speaker 3: But I'm trying to clean it up so we don't

1042
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,660
Speaker 3: have to beep it out. So everyone went, okay, fantastic.

1043
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,180
Speaker 3: I'm going to give you a week to think about it.

1044
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,380
Speaker 3: And when we come back in a couple of weeks' time,

1045
00:44:16,420 --> 00:44:18,899
Speaker 3: you know, you've got your selections. What are you going after?

1046
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,420
Speaker 3: So we're sitting around that night. I'm having dinner with

1047
00:44:21,460 --> 00:44:23,739
Speaker 3: a few friends, a few of the people that live

1048
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:29,580
Speaker 3: with me in my apartment, and I– disclose the topic, right?

1049
00:44:30,450 --> 00:44:33,070
Speaker 3: And they said, oh, that great topic, Brandy, who are

1050
00:44:33,090 --> 00:44:35,910
Speaker 3: you going to select? I said, oh, number one for

1051
00:44:35,930 --> 00:44:42,940
Speaker 3: me is clear as day. This bloke, absolute lunatic, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

1052
00:44:43,300 --> 00:44:45,070
Speaker 3: I said, you know what I might even do? I

1053
00:44:45,110 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 3: might even throw his wife and his partner as a collective, right,

1054
00:44:50,620 --> 00:44:54,060
Speaker 3: because both of them I don't like and, you know,

1055
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:54,540
Speaker 3: left wing.

1056
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 4: You're going the double entendre.

1057
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:57,820
Speaker 1: Double entendre.

1058
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,819
Speaker 3: And I'm teeing off, right, and just towards the back

1059
00:45:00,900 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 3: end of my chat, the guy, very good friend of mine,

1060
00:45:06,260 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 3: he says, hey, brown dog, I want to stop you

1061
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:08,939
Speaker 3: right there.

1062
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,739
Speaker 1: And I turn and I say, yeah, mate, what? He goes, oh,

1063
00:45:12,110 --> 00:45:18,510
Speaker 1: they're my godparents. Mate, what are the odds?

1064
00:45:18,910 --> 00:45:23,020
Speaker 3: There's 27 million people here in Australia. You're usually only

1065
00:45:23,060 --> 00:45:25,860
Speaker 3: the godparents of one person, right?

1066
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,410
Speaker 1: And I've got him right next to me. Inside, Campbell

1067
00:45:29,430 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: was thinking this. So I turned to him, I said, look,

1068
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: I stand by every.

1069
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 4: Word I say.

1070
00:45:35,500 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. I apologize to you because I had no

1071
00:45:38,860 --> 00:45:40,130
Speaker 1: idea that that was your godparents.

1072
00:45:40,530 --> 00:45:41,850
Speaker 4: What a world. Psychopath.

1073
00:45:41,930 --> 00:45:44,370
Speaker 1: All right, Degenerates. We'll talk to you later in the

1074
00:45:44,410 --> 00:45:45,650
Speaker 1: week before the prelims.

1075
00:45:45,690 --> 00:45:47,550
Speaker 4: Have a good week. All the best, Degenerates.