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Speaker 1: I I boris and this is straight talk.

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Speaker 2: Forty percent of athletes so they were taking or had

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Speaker 1: Miss off. James magnusm Weldo to stray tool mate.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Mark.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about the new Olympics

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Speaker 3: So it's called the Enhanced Games.

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Speaker 2: Essentially, this is a conversion of the Olympics without drug testing.

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Speaker 2: This is an exercise in pushing human ability, human physiology.

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Speaker 1: The other other things are on top of testosterone yea.

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Speaker 2: So testosterone peptides themselves, some other growth hormone or anabolic

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Speaker 2: type substances. This endeavor can actually advance humanity. You come

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Speaker 2: on board. You break that world record. The million US

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Speaker 2: is yours, which was a nice upside because I little

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Speaker 2: did he.

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Speaker 3: Now I meant a million? How you do?

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Speaker 1: But James magnusm Welldernes straight tool mate. Thanks Mark, haven't

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Speaker 1: seen you for a long long time.

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Speaker 3: It's been a minute.

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Speaker 1: I wring you've grown about three inches the taller.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the first thing everyone said, is I'm serious.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I haven't. I haven't been trying to grow yet.

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Speaker 1: But when I would have maybe six seven years ago.

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Speaker 1: You would have been in your twenties, mid twenties.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you just had You're still pretty fresh

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Speaker 1: Howy you feeling about Olympics coming up? But how do

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Speaker 3: Very excited? I'm heading over for the coverage.

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Speaker 2: I'm working for News Court yep, so I'll be doing

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Speaker 3: So I'm punped.

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Speaker 1: You actually like as a journalist, Yes, so you'll be

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Speaker 2: The events, all the big events, opinion pieces across the

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Speaker 2: whole games swimming. I guess I'll do a bit in

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Speaker 2: That's a formula. He's a lot of fun, he is,

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Speaker 1: And quite bright in that he would know from previous

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Speaker 1: In terms of stats and information and not just on Olympics,

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Speaker 1: There's probably the case, by the way, it probably is

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Speaker 2: the major sponsors throw big parties and when you're an

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Speaker 3: At all the all the big parties.

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Speaker 2: Big time, big time, And I think for the most part,

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Speaker 3: We keep to ourselves.

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Speaker 2: You know, even in an Olympic setting, the Australian Olympic

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Speaker 1: I remember what you called the scud the missile, the missile,

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Speaker 2: Missile no one can chase back to who gave me

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Speaker 2: Eventuated and the Last australian to win a hundred freestyle

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Speaker 3: Where he's earned his nickname the, missile and it just.

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Speaker 2: Stuck and then ONCE i got home back To, australia

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Speaker 1: Missile that's, right BECAUSE i REMEMBER i kept thinking was

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Speaker 1: Deal so and when you, swam when you're at your

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Speaker 1: to talk to about the New olympics that you're going

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Speaker 1: to just quickly explain what are they called and what's

439
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 1: that what's the thesis of the whole?

440
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 2: Thing, yeah so it's called The Enhanced. Games so essentially

441
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 2: this is like a version of The olympics without drug.

442
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 2: Testing anything that's taken has to BE fda approved and

443
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 2: prescribed by, doctor so there will be checks in.

444
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: Place but this is nothing, dangerous so to, speak nothing

445
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 1: dangerous and it's. MONITORED i, guess, yeah things heavily.

446
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 2: Monitored this IS i think this is an exercise in

447
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 2: pushing human. Ability human physiology and. Science science plays a

448
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 2: huge part in this science and medicine and the advancements

449
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 2: in this. Space but basically the idea of The games

450
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 2: is to bring on athletes who can break world, records

451
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 2: current world records with.

452
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 1: Enhancements so what obviously that means like that's like what

453
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 1: would ordinarily be banned as a. Drug it doesn't cover

454
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: every single, drug so you're not. Out they're doing bodybuilder

455
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 1: type style point for, me, yeah because don't want to

456
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 1: be too.

457
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 2: Heavy no, no, no. No the things for me that

458
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 2: are going to be super. Important firstly is going to be.

459
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 2: Recovery swimmers do a lot of workload and for the,

460
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 2: Record i'm trying to Break i'm going to be doing

461
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 2: a lot of work in the gym as.

462
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 3: Well so the.

463
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 2: Record drawing a big fifty freestyle world. Record what is

464
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 2: the current twenty point nine to one seconds?

465
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: Hold who Is.

466
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 2: Caesar, clo WHO i raced a lot during my. Career

467
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 2: he broke it in two thousand and. Nine it's the

468
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 2: longest standing world record in men's, swimming and it was

469
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 2: done in the supersuits back in the. Day the reason

470
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,959
Speaker 2: being those suits that one year they had those crazy,

471
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 2: suits the poly irrotate, suits the floating swimmers there they you,

472
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 2: KNOW i think of that world record in That World champion.

473
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: Rooms every world record was broken pretty much multiple, times

474
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 2: most of.

475
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 3: Them so this is.

476
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 2: The last remaining world, record and it's probably the truest

477
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 2: testament to human power and speed and.

478
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 3: Acceleration it's the fifty.

479
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 2: Three so there's no there's no, tactics there's no easing

480
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 2: into the. Race basically it's full bore from start to finish, athleticism, power,

481
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: speed and so it's going to be the best example

482
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 2: of what can these enhancements do for an athlete's athletic.

483
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: Ability so just take me through the. Race so you,

484
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: know it starts off getting a good start, obviously but

485
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: SO i just want to, know just take me through the.

486
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: Twenties well you can go through the whole twenty. Seconds

487
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: it's obviously power from the, start like in other, words,

488
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 1: lead power to get out as far as you. Can

489
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: it's the ability to do whatever you do, underwater because

490
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 1: there's a lot underwater these. Days and then once you

491
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: come up to the, surface it's about do you take

492
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: me through?

493
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 2: It like so essentially what we're trying to do at the,

494
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 2: moment we're trying to get the best vertump in world.

495
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 3: Swimming so that dive off The blox is pure.

496
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: Explosion it's probably the most explosive movement in any sport

497
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 2: because you go from this little crouchdown to position to

498
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 2: horizontal in the, air so triple extension before entering the.

499
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 2: Water so you go from relax to full explosion, horizontal

500
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 2: then stiffen up again before you hit the.

501
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: Water it's so where do you need the? POWER i,

502
00:24:54,600 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: mean which part of Your primarily it's your glutes and so,

503
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: okay and then once.

504
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 2: You hit the, water then you underwater fly, kick and

505
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 2: that's all about. Mobility so hyper mobility through your thracic,

506
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: spine through your, shoulders through your, hips and.

507
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 3: Again a lot of power through that butterfly kick and.

508
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: How many how many butterfly kicks you do?

509
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 3: Underwater i'll do about seven for the, Race, yeah and

510
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 3: they have to be super super.

511
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: Quick then you break. Out no breathing till the, end

512
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 2: so hold your, breath.

513
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: Take one, breath or you don't take the breath as

514
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: you dive.

515
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 3: In as you dive, in the last breath you'll take

516
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 3: is just before you hit the. Water then you hold your.

517
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: Breath that whole it was taking breath actually takes it.

518
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: Slows you, down some little turn that's like that tiny

519
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: it might, be whatever.

520
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: It, is you might lose a stroke out of.

521
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 3: It, yeah, Yeah and then it's head. Down the way

522
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 3: we swim.

523
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: God head, down head, Straight, yeah head down from a

524
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: work ethic point of, view and the way we produce

525
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: power from swimming from free style as we go opposite

526
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: hand to opposite.

527
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 2: Hip so my right hand hits the, water my right

528
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 2: hip connects to, it my sling across my, body So

529
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 2: i'm flinging down that. Pool my hip stays super, sill

530
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 2: my upper body rotates quite. Drastically and then from that

531
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: point to the, finish it's all power and.

532
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: How much you rely on your kick where's the Kick

533
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: in terms of contribution the.

534
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: Kick it's probably eighty twenty upper body to kick the.

535
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: Kick the main focus for that fifty freestyle, stability keeping

536
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: those hips nice and. Still when you watch it ON,

537
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: tv you, go, well that's producing a lot of. Power

538
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 2: but IF i took my arms out of. That for,

539
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 2: example IF i took kickout and swim that, FIFTY i

540
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 2: might be twenty five. Seconds IF i took my arms

541
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 2: out and kicked that, fifty, yeah thirty, seconds thirty one.

542
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 3: Seconds so it's upper, body so you can kick.

543
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 1: It you can do fifty kick just. Kicking you beat

544
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: me IF i was doing. It if you struggling to do,

545
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: Thirty so. Okay so then in terms of the, physiology

546
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: AND i get the parts of the working in terms

547
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: of the. Physiology in terms of your exercise regime apart

548
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: from doing pool WORK xos regime in the, gym so

549
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: you're doing power a lot of power, exercise.

550
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 2: Yeah which is quite different to WHAT i did that

551
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 2: during my let's call it my first. Career So olympic

552
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 2: lifting like clean and, jerks, snatches a lot of, pliometrics,

553
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 2: jumping broad, jumps high, jumps, throwing, throwing, balls throwing medicine

554
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: balls and then low, reps heavyweight on your, squats some hipinge,

555
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: movements maybe not a full, deadlift but something like, that

556
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: a bench, press and then alsimmers do heavy chin, ups

557
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 2: like heavyweighted chin ups like you mean With, yeah.

558
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: They still do it like like not for this, event

559
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: but just generally, yeah, yeah because they develop your. Lads,

560
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: yeah and lats is a big part of the.

561
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 3: Swimming you're just going to get out of the. Pool

562
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: they always have that sort.

563
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: Of, yeah the V so, okay SO i understand the.

564
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: Regime where does the enhancement fit? In so how does

565
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: the hnce the enhancement of drugs that you, take how

566
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: do they enhance that?

567
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: Regime, Yeah so Basically i'm not going to you, know

568
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 2: use testosterone for the first time and jump in the

569
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: pool and feel stronger and feel. Faster What i'm going

570
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: to be able to do with which.

571
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: One is essentially test test. Testosterone that'll be the first. Thing,

572
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: yeah other other things on top of the.

573
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 2: Testosterone, yeah so, testosterone, peptide stem, cells some other growth

574
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: hormone or anabolic type substances that that will basically you,

575
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 2: know improve lean muscle mass and.

576
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: Output is there anything that is not, allowed.

577
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: Like like a for, example a doctor would never prescribe like, trendline.

578
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: Which is what to, me what that.

579
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 3: Is so that's what your average body builder will, use.

580
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: Right that's not an anabotic, Steroid yeah it.

581
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: Is it is that'll put on the size the, fastest

582
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 2: that will cause acne and back hair and shrinking, narts

583
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: all those sort of like really intense side, effects really

584
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: intense physical.

585
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 3: Reaction will put size on the.

586
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: Fastest will increase strength the, fastest but will have severe side.

587
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: Effects that's the most common. ONE i would say in

588
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: a gym setting.

589
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: Trembline, trembline that's an anabolic. Steroid That so you've got

590
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: certain other words a doctor won't prescribe because of the.

591
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: DANGER a doctor wouldn't prescribe that because for, example a

592
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: doctor would prescribe test austerone to most men probably over thirty,

593
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: five because if you do a test and you look

594
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: at your Test australian, levels most men will be at

595
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: in that low range because of age and lifestyle.

596
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 3: Factors that just is what it is in current.

597
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: Society so whilst we'll have doctors who will prescribe above and,

598
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: beyond it's not a drug that is, unsafe, untested doesn't

599
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: have any sort.

600
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: Of history of use and side effects on.

601
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: It, so you, know the first thing people think when

602
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: they hear The Enhanced, GAME i think it sounds a bit,

603
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: sketchy bit. Dicey you, know science. Experiment all these drugs

604
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 2: are out, there and all these drugs.

605
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 3: Are being used.

606
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: Currently beyond, that all these drugs are being used currently

607
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: by athletes in certain.

608
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: SPORTS i once spoke to HER i won't to say who,

609
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: was but a track and field, person and that person

610
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: said to me that he knew that all the best,

611
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: runners not Necessarily, australia we're. Taking.

612
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 3: Yeah i've probably had the same conversation with that same,

613
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 3: ATHLETE i.

614
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: Think but he knew and if he was in a semi,

615
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: final he knew it was probably the only clean.

616
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: One it, correct it was only clean, one and he

617
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: used to get really pissed off about. It, yeah, absolutely

618
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: and it was because it was well.

619
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: Known the funny thing is swimmers is.

620
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: Probably swimming, TOO i don't, know but it. Does it.

621
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: Does i'd say so so that one of the statistics

622
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: that The Enhanced games spoke with me about WHEN i

623
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: first signed. On so THE, ioc The International Olympic committee

624
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: did an internal survey of their, athletes a study and

625
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: they asked those athletes under, anonymity have you ever taken

626
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: or are you currently taking performance enhancing? Drugs the results

627
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: came back now and they said to, me what do

628
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: you think the numbers? Are, okay you'd hope, not But

629
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: i'm thinking like maybe as much as ten percent forty

630
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: percent of athletes in that survey anonymously like you wouldn't

631
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: you just lie, anyway but anonymously forty, percent so they

632
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: were taking or had taken performance enhancing drugs.

633
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 3: At The Olympic. Games they go far, out you, know

634
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 3: As australians were so.

635
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: Heavily These australians know that this is athletes aroun around the, world, Right.

636
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: I'd say, That i'd Say, australians if we had one

637
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: percent of Our olympic athletes In australia on performance and enhancing,

638
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: Drugs i'd be a, surprised be disappointed BECAUSE i know

639
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 2: how stringent we are with our. Testing it's ACTUALLY i

640
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: think it's a it's an interesting point around our. Testing

641
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: so we spend quite a lot on our antidoping In AUSTRALIA.

642
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: Asata with that money we, test catch and publicly shame

643
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: our own, athletes whilst other countries in the world are

644
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: doing everything they can to avoid getting, caught to avoid naming,

645
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: athletes to avoid publicly shaming, athletes.

646
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: And probably actually assisting in. Them to be correct WHAT

647
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: i do.

648
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: With these the, documentary you know there was a state

649
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 2: funded doping and the ones running it with the antidoping

650
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: authorities In. Russia so it's an interesting. THEORY i, mean

651
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: if IF i was in charge of that, SPACE i

652
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: would be spending all my funding On if we've got

653
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: international athletes in the country form asata straight out testing,

654
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: them can we send those athletes to some? Countries can

655
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 2: we send them to some international? Meeta can we be

656
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: catching athletes from other, countries because historically our athletes aren't

657
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: the ones doing.

658
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 3: This we're very clean as a.

659
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: Nation i've in my entire, CAREER i never once was

660
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: offered a performance enhancing, substance never came across, them AND

661
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: i was at the tippity top from a reasonably young,

662
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,959
Speaker 2: age never came across them at. All but you, know

663
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 2: we've got people Like Peter bowl who we publicly Shame wrecki's,

664
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: terrible REKIS i don't know if you can Say wreckedy's whole.

665
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: Career it's certainly wrecked that part of his. Career his

666
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 2: reputation took a period.

667
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: Of his life.

668
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: Away and any time you, know from now until, infinity

669
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: anytime you.

670
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: Google Peter bowles comes, Up, yeah which is, bullshit but it's.

671
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: There, meanwhile there was an article just came out that

672
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: there was twenty three athletes from a country leading into

673
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: The Tokyo olympics who all tested positive to a substance in.

674
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: Swimming wasidden By, Wader it was hidden by The Olympic,

675
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: committee it was hidden by The World Swimming, federation and

676
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: it only came out because of investigative journalism. Recently and

677
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: again it was just basically.

678
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: When they're all still, competing they're still.

679
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: COMPETING i think between, them they won about five medals

680
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 2: at The Olympic, games including three, gold and our athletes

681
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 2: competed against. Them we had an athlete in one of

682
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 2: those events who was a world record holder who was.

683
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: Beaten so you're not promoting, THOUGH i want this to

684
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 1: be clear and on the, record you are not promoting

685
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: the use of performance enhancing drugs in The. Olympics quite the.

686
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: Opposite quite the. Opposite you are taking part in this

687
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: to see just what. Happens, yeah if you did.

688
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 3: WHAT i, think and as you get older and you

689
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 3: realize more and more of.

690
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: This is, happening and you know when you're swimming that

691
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: there's athletes that you're racing now in. Retirement WHEN i

692
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: heard that, STORY i look at those swimmers AND i,

693
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: go give me what he's on AND i fucking bury

694
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: it totally because As austraine, ATHLETES i believe we have

695
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: some of the best, coaching training work.

696
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: Ethic LIKE i, said we're doing it from a young.

697
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: Age we're still out there winning on a world, stage

698
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 2: but we're not playing on a level playing. Field and

699
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 2: so give me what they are and watch what.

700
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: Happens which is what you're going to, do just the

701
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: enhanced games when there's people when are we going.

702
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 3: To be late next?

703
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: Year so The olympics Is august this, year looking at

704
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 2: sort of probably Say august To november next, year can.

705
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: You just sort of you might not be prepared to

706
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: do it because of competitive disadvantage around or, advantage but

707
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: can you sort of maybe look at it gives an

708
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: outline of the stack of what you're taking now SO.

709
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: I haven't taken, anything nothing, yet. Nothing i've started speaking

710
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: when you start to do, this, yeah so.

711
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: It's not far.

712
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: Away so, basically if if you think of regardless and

713
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 2: the whole WAY i became involved in this was.

714
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: The.

715
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: Boys SO i heard about the enhanced. Games you, KNOW

716
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: i work in the, media SO i saw press releases and.

717
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: STUFF i, thought very interesting, concept and most most friendship

718
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: circles have sat down around, it you, know sat at

719
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: the pub at some side at the stage and, said you,

720
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 2: know imagine if you, know what if we gave you Saying,

721
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: Bolt what if we Gave Michael, Phelps what if we

722
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: gave the best athlete?

723
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 3: Before, like what could they? Do could we have superhumans

724
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 3: on our.

725
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 1: Hands it's just a philosophical, yeah.

726
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 2: Philosophical, ANYWAY i saw the, CONCEPT i thought very, interesting

727
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 2: Very Peter feels behind, It peter tel is behind, It

728
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: Aaron desuza is fronting. It there's there's also some other

729
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 2: hedge funds backing. It so the most recent TIME i

730
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: heard about, it, right it was, right we've got multiple

731
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: billionaire backers of this games and we're pushing ahead with.

732
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: It and that's the first TIME i took it, seriously

733
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i, thought you, know without the, funding it's all,

734
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: theoretical still.

735
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 3: Hypothetical so, right they've got the.

736
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: Backing they named the sports they named, swimming, athletics, weightlifting

737
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 2: and combat sports probably are boxing and, wrestling which pretty, interesting.

738
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 4: Scary so named the sports that they named the backing

739
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 4: and it oh you, KNOW i went on their website

740
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 4: and you, see you know that they're starting to accumulate staff.

741
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: Quickly So i'm, thinking, right this is starting to take.

742
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 2: Shape how to chat with one of my mates about,

743
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: it and we were chatting and he, said you, know

744
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: are they going to be able to break because the

745
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: enhanced games are, Trumpeting we're going to break all the

746
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 2: natural world. Records and he said to, me are they

747
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: just going to be able to bring on some young,

748
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 2: athletes put them in performance enhancements and they come out

749
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 2: and break world? Records so absolutely, not particularly those pinnacle.

750
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: Events you one hundred meters, track you're fifty meters freestyle,

751
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: swimming like those events have so much skill, acquisition time under,

752
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 2: tension like there's so much have gone into to get

753
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: to that. Pinnacle SO i, said there's no way you

754
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 2: could just get an, average say college athlete and just

755
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: get them on this program and they become out break or.

756
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 2: Record it's not possible.

757
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: Because a whole lot of other stuff goes into it so.

758
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 3: Much, years years make the.

759
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 2: Start and the reason they're not at The olympics is

760
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: they're probably not talented.

761
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 3: Enough so that's the first.

762
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: Point so talent is still. Critical it's.

763
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 3: Critical it's.

764
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: Critical it's it's, genetics its, size its ability to handle

765
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 2: the workload of thousands of.

766
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: Laps and years at.

767
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 2: It.

768
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 3: Years. Years.

769
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 2: Yeah so he said to, me, theoretically could THEY i,

770
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: said not, Possible and he, said well who? Could AND i,

771
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 2: said you'd have to get an athlete who'd either been

772
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 2: there and done it before or you, know was mid

773
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 2: career right. Now and he, said, well could they get current?

774
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: ATHLETES i, said be, tough you, know could you get

775
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 2: an athlete and say instead of going To Paris, OLYMPICS

776
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: i want you to do. This, well you, know you

777
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: can't compare them at the. Moment doesn't have the, history

778
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: he doesn't have the. Tradition so he, said we do

779
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: you reckon.

780
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 3: You could do?

781
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: It AND i, said, well probably probably if it was

782
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: in my events and depending you, KNOW i hadn't done

783
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: much research into the performance enhancement. Stuff AS i, said

784
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: never have come across. It i've never taken anything. Myself he,

785
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: said you reckon you could DO i, Said i'll. Probably he,

786
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: said well what would it? Take AND i, say you,

787
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: know and this is the throwaway line that you speak to.

788
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 2: MATES i, said, ah Million, BUCKS i do. It he said,

789
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 2: yeah fair. Enough then that was sort of the end of.

790
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: It then the Hollow sport podcast bring me up and

791
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: they're mid podcasts and they, say, hey can we chuck

792
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 2: you on the? Podcast WHEN i asked you, SOMETHING i said.

793
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: No drummers said what about this enhanced? Games so you

794
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: heard about?

795
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: It?

796
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 2: Yep can they break word? RECORDS i said, again probably.

797
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 2: Not you need the right. People and it just clicked

798
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: for me for a. SECOND i, said here's a world

799
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 2: exclusive for you, Boys Tom eddie From Million. Bucks i'll

800
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: come on board And i'll break a word. RECORD i,

801
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 2: mean you, know it's a satirical. PODCAST i guess you call.

802
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 2: It and they were very excited about. That, anyway hang,

803
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: up forget ABOUT i THINK i did that interview on A.

804
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 2: Wednesday they released the pot on A thursday. AFTERNOON i

805
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 2: wake Up friday morning and my phone is blowing. Up

806
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 2: the lux during my. Career that's never been a good,

807
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 2: thing is blowing. Up but it was you, Know New York, TIMES.

808
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 3: Bbc sky and like every every outlet from around the.

809
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 3: World And Aaron jesusa called me and he, Said i've

810
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 3: got a million dollars in ESCROW us with this. Company

811
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 3: you come on, board you break that world.

812
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: Record the MILLION us is, yours which was a nice

813
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: upside BECAUSE i little did He NOW i meant a

814
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: million Aud but.

815
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 3: The MILLION us.

816
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: Helps BUT i can just explain to me, though is

817
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: it you verse? As will you be be race four?

818
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 3: Final eight?

819
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: People, okay so but the do they choose the eight

820
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: people or people can apply there are the peats and

821
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: stuff like, that.

822
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 3: Or not just be one out, final one out.

823
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: Final so there'll be A tv product that will basically BE.

824
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: I.

825
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 2: Imagined by the time it's all said and, done you'll

826
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: go A tv product that Goes boom fifty three, Style

827
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: boom one hundred, track, boom, heavyweightlifting bom heavyweight boxing like action,

828
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: packed not a three Week olympics where you're, like all,

829
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: right here's the. Archery oh, good the swimming's. On, next

830
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: back to break, dancing at This. Olympics oh, good back

831
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 2: to the hundred, Tracks like this is going to be

832
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 2: action packed and it'll be just a straight up final

833
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 2: eight men all under the same. Guidelines the winner of,

834
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: THAT i dare, say will break the world. Record, ANYWAY

835
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 2: i know other athletes that are coming on, board AND

836
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: i know quite a few athletes that are going to

837
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: come on board After paris that are going to be

838
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: fresh out of their.

839
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: Careers so you may well have to compete against who

840
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: wins the gold Medal.

841
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 2: Olympics potentially DEPENDING i, guess depending on, age on their, risk,

842
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 2: appetite on a number of. Things there's also you, Know

843
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: Ridley scott has signed on Within Hands games to produce

844
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: a documentary for The, Games so there's also going to

845
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 2: be a what would you call like a personality aspect

846
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,959
Speaker 2: that will factor into who comes on as The games

847
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 2: because like talent, Talent, yeah because they're producing a Document.

848
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 2: Yeah there was a big, difference for, example Between formula

849
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: One drive To survive and The Tennis breakpoint. Documentaries the

850
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: reason being the Personalities formula, one those, guys the, egos

851
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: the personality was huge and it was awesome to. Watch

852
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: tennis was like there was an episode On, curios which was,

853
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 2: awesome and then after that it just. Dropped, yeah, yeah

854
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 2: yeah they may have may as well have done a

855
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 2: full series on him because he was the only one with. Personality.

856
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: YEAH i watched his, EPISODE i was, like, Sweet i'm.

857
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 2: IN i watched the next. EPISODE i was, Like i'm.

858
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: Done these guys are. Boring, yeah but so that'll play a.

859
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 2: Factor but then so What i'm.

860
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 3: Doing you've been.

861
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: Chosen, hey you're. In, yeah you're, in but you don't

862
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: know the other. Seven, yeah you've GOT i guess you

863
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: have an, idea have.

864
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 3: An idea of a?

865
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: Couple, yeah any of your, nemesis not.

866
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 2: DIRECTLY i would like my nemesis from The London. OLYMPICS

867
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 2: i think that would be pretty. Cool really, YEAH i

868
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 2: think that would be pretty. Cool or the current world

869
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: record holder sees a Clo he must be say late

870
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: thirties maybe, forty but with science and, medicine who, knows

871
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: it would be cool to have him in the.

872
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: Race how would they support? You, like, so, okay you

873
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: get chosen you AND i don't know if that you

874
00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: have the seven are going to be in secret or

875
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: you going to find it at some, Stage but how

876
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: do they support, you do they put you through like

877
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: whole testing, regime et.

878
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: Cetera, yeah so they have quite an extensive medical team on.

879
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: Staff australian Or.

880
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 2: American at the, moment they're based out of half out Of,

881
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 2: london half out Of New, york just because that's where

882
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: the money is, essentially that's where the backing is coming.

883
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 3: From but.

884
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 2: Once there's there's still a lot to play, out as

885
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: you can imagine this. Is AND i think WHEN i

886
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 2: accepted the offer From Aaron desuzo probably accelerated the the

887
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: inception of The games even more because the one thing

888
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: they were missing was an, athlete was a face of The,

889
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: games a credible athlete who had a history and they're.

890
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: Not a, punder not some of who was coming eighth

891
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: or did make it.

892
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: Final, yeah AND i think the country that that athlete

893
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: came from was important as. Well LIKE i, Said australians

894
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: have a great reputation even in that anti doping, space

895
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 2: that The australian swim team is as clean as it.

896
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: Comes.

897
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 2: Like we've had some blips on the radar over the,

898
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: years but as a, whole you, know we've got an exemplary, record.

899
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: Particularly relative to everybody.

900
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: Else, yeah, yeah, yeah big. Time SO i think that

901
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 2: was quite an important aspect for. Them so WHEN i

902
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: came on board and suddenly they had a, face then

903
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 2: things started to really ramp. Up and things have accelerated

904
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 2: heaps even since. Then and you, Know i'm having meetings

905
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 2: with them, regularly and the updates and the grandeur of

906
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: what's going to, happen and some of the people that

907
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 2: are coming on to get, involved countries that are bidding

908
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: for the, games big name personalities that want to be

909
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: a part of.

910
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 3: It to the coverage, broadcast, right it's going to be.

911
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 3: Huge you.

912
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: KNOW i think there's one point two BILLION i believe

913
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 2: watched the one hundred meter track final at The Olympic.

914
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: Games ANYONE i speak, to whether they support these games or,

915
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: not you asked them, afterwards well would you watch? Totally

916
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 2: so if the one hundred meters tracked does one point two,

917
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 2: Billion i'd be surprised if this doesn't do a billion.

918
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: Views if they can package this into a weekend or

919
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 2: a day or a two HOUR tv product like this does.

920
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 3: A billion, VIEWS i. Believe and so the broadcast rights for,

921
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 3: that and the broadcast rights the Broad.

922
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: Super, bowl it's going to be like A Super bowl.

923
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 3: Event the broadcast, part the broadcast rights and partner you,

924
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 3: know will probably have somewhat of a say in timing of.

925
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 2: It so that's why that hasn't been set in stone.

926
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 2: Yet they haven't done an option for the broadcast rights.

927
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: Yet but it's evolving so. Quickly so for, me like people, say,

928
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: oh it's too, late like why are you training? Now

929
00:46:55,719 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: and and will? Be you, know are you taking anything?

930
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: Now if?

931
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: Not why for the first Point i've, Got i've got

932
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 2: over a year to. Prepare BUT i may be. PREPARING

933
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 2: i may be racing against current athletes at the top

934
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: of their. Game so as soon AS i said, THAT

935
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: i got shading the pool the next day started churning

936
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: out those, laps brought on AN S andc, coach got

937
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: some advice around around the swim training, aspect and started

938
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 2: training immediately BECAUSE i was acutely aware THAT i needed

939
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 2: to get to the peak of my natural ability and

940
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: that that enhancement part is probably the one two percent on.

941
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 3: Top it's it's the it's the cream on.

942
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: Top but what do you think your age? Now what

943
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: a disadvantage would you put on your age in terms

944
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 1: of time against the world.

945
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 2: Record it's a good. QUESTION i, mean IF i had

946
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: to guess right, now IF i And i'm going to

947
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: have the ability of the super suit as.

948
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: Well everyone Can, yeah, okay let's go enhance. Games. Yeah

949
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: but also so he had the super suit.

950
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 3: On, yeah the super suit, yeah so and that should be.

951
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: Quick it should be.

952
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: Equivalent that's WHAT i said To aaron WHEN i came on.

953
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: BOARD i, said if we're going to.

954
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: Do this a new supersuit or the super, suit the

955
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: one that the same stuff that he was, Wearing we'll.

956
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 3: Be happy with the original. One it's probably better.

957
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: Ones they could have made, advancements but they haven't because

958
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 2: they haven't been able to produce anything. Since so who's

959
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 2: to say that LACK nasa won't come out and say

960
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 2: here's a better swimsuit for this enhanced.

961
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 3: Games who.

962
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 2: Knows but at WORST i can have the same suit

963
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: As Caesar, ciellow which is a huge. FACTOR i would

964
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 2: say right, now with that super, SUIT i would be

965
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: somewhere between half a second and a second off the

966
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: world record.

967
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: That's now right. Now, yeah the past time, trial you

968
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: probably do a twenty one or something.

969
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 3: Twenty one high yees say with that with that, suit

970
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 3: maybe twenty one to five.

971
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: Yep SO i need, THAT i need that last.

972
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: Percentage But i'm grinding now naturally to get as closer

973
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: to AS i. Can so the performance enhancing aspect tips.

974
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: Me over the, edge but it needs to have a lesser. Effect.

975
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

976
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 2: CORRECT i can't come off the couch and just, go,

977
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 2: Oh testosterone's going to take you from the couch to

978
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 2: the world, record AND i KEEP i have to keep

979
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 2: reminding myself and reminding other people around me because you,

980
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: know the people that i'm training, with the people that

981
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: i'm with getting really excited because my improvement has been

982
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 2: quite sharp over the. Past i'm into week twelve of

983
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: training of hardcore, training and my improvements have been quite quite.

984
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 3: Sharp you, know in the in the gym, sense we

985
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 3: call them beginner.

986
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 2: Gains you, know when you start a certain, program you

987
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 2: start training for speed or, power and you get results

988
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 2: pretty quickly because you haven't done it for a while

989
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 2: and you quite receptive to.

990
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: It but then your, platter then your.

991
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 3: Platter, yeah so WHAT i need to do is get

992
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 3: myself to that.

993
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: Platter where is that platter at thirty three years of,

994
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 2: Age i'm not SURE i haven't hit it, yet but

995
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: there's new training and new methodology and different Things i'm

996
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 2: doing now that makes me believe maybe maybe That plato

997
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 2: this time isn't far off my peak as a twenty

998
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: year old. Athlete but then that last part to take

999
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 2: me above and, beyond to make me be able to

1000
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 2: stack up workouts one after the, other you, know swim

1001
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 2: super fast in the, morning lifts super heavy at, lunchtime

1002
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 2: swim super fast again at. Night like just that's that's

1003
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: What i'm being told by the medical. Professionals that's the

1004
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: difference at the. Moment LIKE i get up early AND

1005
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: i swim hard balls to the, wall and THEN i

1006
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 2: go from. THERE i, eat AND i go to the.

1007
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 2: GYM i get to the gym AND i sort of you,

1008
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 2: Know i've got to get myself going mentally and physically.

1009
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 2: Again half an hour into my gym, yet, Right i'm going,

1010
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: again and then by that afternoon Sleep i'm.

1011
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 3: Done, Yeah i'm.

1012
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 2: Cooked i'm going four years four hours of training is

1013
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: a thirty three year. Old you, know it's not the

1014
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: most normal thing for a thirty three year old to be.

1015
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: Doing but from all, Reports i'd be able to go

1016
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 2: again and i'd be, saying what's. Next you know that

1017
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 2: the medical Professionals i've been speaking to is have said

1018
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: the biggest thing you'll have to do is to be

1019
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: able to at times tone it down and it'll be

1020
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,720
Speaker 2: a mind over body type thing because physically you'll feel

1021
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: like you can go forever and you'll keep pushing and

1022
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 2: lifting heavier and swimming.

1023
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: Faster than you'll tear.

1024
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 2: Something, yeah so that they, said you know you'll have

1025
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: to rather than saying that my body is, STUFFED i

1026
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: have to mentally get up for, this it would be

1027
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 2: my body is. FIRING i have to mentally wind down

1028
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: so THAT i can rest and.

1029
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 1: Recover so is it is it a chance, that given

1030
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: particularly during your, era there are a couple of people

1031
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: around your age And i'm Thinking Kenrick monk for, example

1032
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: he's be at thirty four to thirty.

1033
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 3: Five, yeah it'd be a couple of years older than.

1034
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: Me so would there be? People would do you think

1035
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: there's a jams Anymore australians would be in this group

1036
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: of eight because you, know, like, yeah it's all very

1037
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: well to. Sell, well it's get one from every. Country

1038
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: but in the finals when you were in The, olympics

1039
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: a couple Of, americans a couple of quite a Few

1040
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: australians would figure it quite heavily in every.

1041
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 3: Event in every, EVENT.

1042
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: I would Say australia is almost the riskiest country to

1043
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 2: put yourself out there and do.

1044
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 3: This in what is?

1045
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: That public? Opinion public?

1046
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 3: Opinion, yeah it's the it's the one, thing you.

1047
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 2: KNOW i had to have some tough conversations at the

1048
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: start with people around me as to WHY i wanted

1049
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 2: to do this. Again and you, know people in my

1050
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 2: LIFE i had a rollercoaster of a career high, highs low, lows.

1051
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 3: You, know and people in my life, said do you

1052
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 3: want to go through that?

1053
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: Again do you want to put yourself out there and

1054
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 2: open yourself up to, criticism to all that kind of,

1055
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 2: stuff and do.

1056
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: You really give a? Shit that's the.

1057
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 2: Thing, yeah that's that's the and that's the hard PART

1058
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 2: i think for me IS i learned at a young

1059
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 2: age not to care about people's, opinions AND i honestly.

1060
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 2: Don't the first thing WHEN i signed onto The, GAMES

1061
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: i said to my, girlfriend don't read, articles don't read,

1062
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 2: comments you, know don't read in, boxes, like just don't do.

1063
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 3: It that's WHAT i. DO i.

1064
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 2: Don't and people say to, me what about the? BACKLASHER

1065
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: i don't know about. IT i don't read, anything like

1066
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 2: who's writing about?

1067
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 3: YOU i don't know what are they.

1068
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 2: WRITING i don't care what about the, comments don't read.

1069
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: Them it's pretty easy as once you understand the aspect

1070
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 2: to deal with. It but my family and those close

1071
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 2: to me always take it a lot harder than. Me

1072
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 2: and you, know speaking to my, parents SO i, said

1073
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: do you want to do this? Again do you want

1074
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,479
Speaker 2: to open yourself up to this? Criticism you, know haven't

1075
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 2: you had enough of? That And i'm a risk, Taker

1076
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 2: i'm a. Gambler i'm pedal to the metal with most

1077
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: THINGS i do in.

1078
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: Life well sort of curious, too like there's a curiosity

1079
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 1: associated with.

1080
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 3: This i'm so.

1081
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: Intrigued and this is the you, know the crazy thing

1082
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 2: about these, games like training again as an athlete is

1083
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 2: exhilaratings like addictive and if you think about for most,

1084
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 2: people if you think about when it was the last

1085
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 2: time you went down to your local park and, SPRINTED

1086
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: i mean everything you've got, Sprinted you finish that, sprint you,

1087
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: stop you get your breath. Back it's a euphoric feeling

1088
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 2: there's very few moments in life where you can physically

1089
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: exert one hundred percent of your effort of your, Output

1090
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 2: and there's something about. It even talking about it gets

1091
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 2: me gat. Up AND i get to do that now

1092
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: every DAY i go to the pool AND i just

1093
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: put the pedal to the metal and it feels, amazing

1094
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 2: And i'm on a high for the next twenty four

1095
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 2: hours TILL i do it. Again AND i love. It

1096
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: and so for, me it wasn't a big. Decision but

1097
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 2: for the people around, me they're not risk, takers they're not.

1098
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: Gamblers they haven't learned to cope with negative feedback or

1099
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: criticism or articles written about, me and they're the ones that.

1100
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 3: Probably do it the.

1101
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 1: Toughest so how do you reconcile? THAT i, mean do

1102
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: you feel like you're being? Selfish? Sure do you, think,

1103
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: oh someone might Think i'm being? Selfish? SURE i, mean

1104
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: do you sort of beat yourself?

1105
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 2: UP i thought about that quite a bit at the,

1106
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 2: beginning because WHAT i didn't realize UNTIL i retired from

1107
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 2: swimming was THAT i did live a very selfish. Life

1108
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 2: every DECISION i made in my life as an athlete

1109
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: was around will this make me a fastest?

1110
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 3: Swimmer or will it?

1111
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 2: Not you, know someone asked me to go to their birthday,

1112
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 2: PARTY i would be that black and white for. Me

1113
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: is that going to make me a fastest? Swimmer does

1114
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 2: that interfere with my? Training if it, Does i'm not.

1115
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 3: GOING i.

1116
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 2: DON'T i didn't put any deeper thought into you, know

1117
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 2: how will that person? Feel or you, know and that

1118
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 2: it's such a simple life as an. Athlete will this

1119
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 2: make me the fastest man in the?

1120
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 3: World will it? Not THEN i go for option a

1121
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 3: fastest man in the.

1122
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: World.

1123
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 2: Option but then you retired from, swimming and then you

1124
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 2: start to, support you, know a. Partner you start to

1125
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 2: think more about, you your, friends, businesses business, partners, family.

1126
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: And gets more. Complicated get us the life so much more.

1127
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 2: Complicated people, say you, know you have to sacrifice so

1128
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 2: much to be an. Athlete it's such a hard. Thing

1129
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: being an athlete is the most simple.

1130
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 3: Job in the. World it's the biggest privilege in the.

1131
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 2: World there's huge, pressure huge, expectation but life.

1132
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: Is simple as long as you prepare to be. Selfish, yeah,

1133
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: Correct AND i. DON'T i don't mean a sinister, way

1134
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: but so just thinking about my outcome a better word single.

1135
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: Minded single, minded, yes.

1136
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 2: Yes not, selfish and that was something that something THAT

1137
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 2: i was really good, at you, know in terms of even,

1138
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 2: now WHEN i kickstarted my, TRAINING i, Said i'm not

1139
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 2: drinking for the next eight weeks to kickstart this thing

1140
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 2: eight weeks and get my training on. Track my birthday

1141
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 2: fell in that eight. Weeks three of my other esmates

1142
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 2: birthdays all fill in that eight weeks brush, brushed, brushed

1143
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 2: all of it. Brushed and people are, Going you're, mad

1144
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 2: like it's it's your. Birthday have a, drink just one,

1145
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 2: Drink have a. Drink, no you, KNOW i want to

1146
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 2: be the fastest man in. History they, Yeah but you.

1147
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 3: KNOW i go. No And.

1148
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 2: I've got that ability to switch it like that and

1149
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 2: just say no to, anything and people around me find

1150
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 2: it incredibly. FRUSTRATING i don't know if it's the fact

1151
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 2: that they can't sway me or they don't understand that,

1152
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,479
Speaker 2: ability because you, know so many people will go along

1153
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: with things in life and do things in life just

1154
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 2: to appease someone.

1155
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 3: Else's feelings or. Sensibilities but.

1156
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 2: WHEN i set my mind to something and What i'm

1157
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 2: thinking at this point in my, Life, Mark i'm thinking

1158
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 2: that this opportunity beyond that million dollars for the race

1159
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 2: that these games, themselves the, exposure the, documentary the things

1160
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 2: that are going to come off the back of, this

1161
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 2: this anti aging. SPACE i believe the space is becoming

1162
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 2: quite big in THE us. Globally, globally, yeah but In

1163
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: australia it's it hasn't it hasn't hit In earnest. Yet

1164
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: we're not seeing anti aging clinics pop. Up you, know

1165
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: there's still a taboo, around a stigma around testosterone or you,

1166
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 2: know men taking things.

1167
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 3: To decrease the speed of. Aging there's a lot of

1168
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 3: stigma attached on.

1169
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: Because we live in a very critical. Society, yeah and

1170
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: it's a bit like being better than somebody else, too

1171
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: by the, way like in this country you're better than

1172
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: someone else that you get taken. Down, yeah you've got

1173
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: to be the same as everybody. Else and if you

1174
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: and if you think you're better or you are, better

1175
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: then you're actually got a target on. You and that's

1176
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: An australian. Thing it's actually An english thing. Too it

1177
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: happens In england And ireland And. Australia it's not An american. Thing,

1178
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: no the other. Way and so you dare not stand

1179
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: out in the. Crowd otherwise you're your your your fair,

1180
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: game your fair. Game CAN i IF i say there's to, You,

1181
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: james IF i said to, YOU i just interested to

1182
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: hear your response and you might need to think about.

1183
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: It IF i said to, You i'll pay you a

1184
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: million dollars not to do, THIS.

1185
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 2: I think, THIS i think this opportunity far out weighs

1186
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 2: that million. Dollars, yeah fire out Ways and WHAT i,

1187
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: Think i'm? Why?

1188
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: Why what is it? About what is it beyond the

1189
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: million dollars that is important to? You is it the,

1190
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: experiment so to, speak like or is it more about

1191
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: how can we live a better?

1192
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 2: Life both the part about so even at the age

1193
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 2: of thirty, THREE i was starting to research some of this.

1194
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 2: Stuff i'm Watching Andrew Hubernemann's i'm Watching You You're Joe. Rope, yeah,

1195
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah i'm hearing them talk about this side of things BECAUSE.

1196
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 3: I don't want. TO i don't want to, just for

1197
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 3: lack of a better, term just age gracefully and.

1198
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: Just accept the. STATUS i don't.

1199
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 3: WANT i don't want to accept. THAT i don't want

1200
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 3: to get, SLOWER i don't want to get.

1201
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 2: WEAKER i don't want to lose, vitality, libido all those,

1202
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 2: things you, know all those aspects as an athlete character

1203
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: defining for, me my athletic ability is intrinsically linked with.

1204
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 3: WHO i. Am that's HOW i Identify i've.

1205
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: BEEN i don't want to lose what defines.

1206
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 3: You i've been the athlete my whole. Life AND i

1207
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 3: see other.

1208
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 2: Swimmers they, retire they blow, out they get, depressed they

1209
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 2: turn to. Drugs it's such a common. Cycle AND i

1210
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 2: know exactly two a million. Times SO i, retired and

1211
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 2: the DAY i, RETIRED i started training, again you, know

1212
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 2: in the, gym running doing different.

1213
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 3: THINGS i started.

1214
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 2: TRAINING i entered the race up, circular the Center points,

1215
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 2: HOUR i did the city to, SERVE i did Tough.

1216
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: MONER i just started entering things and training and keeping

1217
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 2: myself in. Shape and at any given point in those

1218
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 2: last five years Where i've been, retired IF i let

1219
01:00:55,640 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 2: that physical activity, slip or that that acting lifestyle, slip

1220
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 2: my mind slips quickly with.

1221
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: It so so your, Mind, yeah you're the stability of your,

1222
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:14,479
Speaker 1: mind or maybe the happiness of your, mind relies quite

1223
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: a lot on your physical, output and perhaps even the

1224
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: competitive physical output being a. Competitor so because it's hard

1225
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: to do a high level of physical output unless you've

1226
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: got an. Objective, Correct, yeah it just. IS i mean

1227
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: way as you get, older it gets, harder and it really.

1228
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: Does it gets harder and. Harder and like WHEN i

1229
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: hit sixty, five LIKE i, started it just really hit me.

1230
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: Hard Like i'll still go to the gym every, day

1231
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: but just the intensity of training without an. OBJECTIVE i,

1232
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: mean WHEN i was, younger it was about looking good

1233
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff and. Competing but, yeah

1234
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: so like it's sort of an interesting. Thing vitality is

1235
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: quite an interesting topic if and, look we're one big

1236
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: ball of chemistry and. Physics everyone stop talking shit like

1237
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: soul mine fucking divine. This at the end of the,

1238
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: day we are a whole lot of chemical, reactions and

1239
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: if our body is not producing certain, chemicals by virtue

1240
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: of things are working as. Well you, know your balls

1241
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: might not be producing the same amount of testosterone when

1242
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,919
Speaker 1: you're you, know six years they were when you're, twenty,

1243
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: obviously because they've been gone for forty more forty years.

1244
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: Extra you, know that makes. Sense you, know just like

1245
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: a car or, whatever there's mechanics involved as a result of,

1246
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: that you don't have the same level of vitality vitality

1247
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: being meaning you, know the same amount of chemistry flating

1248
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: around your, system so there might be a. Dosage they

1249
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: might actually help you get back some of that. Chemistry

1250
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: most Of Joe rogan AND i talk about all the.

1251
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 1: TIME i, Mean, australia by the, way is not that.

1252
01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: ENVIRONMENT us is that. Environment AND i don't Think Joe

1253
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: rogan or WHAT i don't pick on it With, joe

1254
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: BUT i don't think those people are doing it because

1255
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: they want to win a world title or they or

1256
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: because they you, Know joseph a jiu jitsu, guy because

1257
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: he wants to beat everyone in the jiu jitsu, gym

1258
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: probably everyone he's competing against us doing it as. WELL

1259
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: i think it's more about just having a better, lifestyle

1260
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: being able to do more, things, yeah for a longer

1261
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: period of, time instead of just accepting the status quo

1262
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: WHEN i turned sixty five or. Retire yeah, quietly our

1263
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: mother lawns and over a period of twenty years Old,

1264
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: carcket that's just.

1265
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 3: Bullshit, yeah it's bullshit at That And.

1266
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 1: I'm not, suggesting by the, Way, James, Sorry i'm not,

1267
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: suggesting SAY i should be doing doing what you're going

1268
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: to be about to. Do i'm not suggesting it for a,

1269
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: moment but WHAT i am suggesting is this is something

1270
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: that people should pay attention to because what you're about

1271
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: to do might inform us about something else that we

1272
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: should be considering or thinking about in terms of how

1273
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: we live a better life for a longer period of

1274
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:03,439
Speaker 1: time without without the, danger, yeah without without putting ourselves at. Risk.

1275
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 3: Correct and when people sit back and, say why are

1276
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 3: people backing these?

1277
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 2: Games why has this got billion dollars billionaires backing it

1278
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 2: and so much, funding and what's the? Outcome that's your

1279
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 2: outcome if we sit back and watch a documentary at

1280
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 2: the end of this produced By Ridley, scott so obviously

1281
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 2: the highest quality documentary you can.

1282
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 3: Produce so we sit there and we watch these.

1283
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 2: Athletes we watch a thirty three year old athlete come

1284
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 2: back to their former, glory swim faster than any athlete in,

1285
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 2: history which physiologically shouldn't be possible at thirty, three go

1286
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 2: through the, process see behind the scenes of the, testing

1287
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 2: the medical, enhancements all of that, stuff and see a

1288
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 2: lack of or no side.

1289
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 3: Effects we're going to sit back and, go, OH i.

1290
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 2: Thought you know when people said, TESTOSA i was thinking

1291
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 2: of the guy down at the, gym you, know against

1292
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 2: the heart of his, boot and you know it ended

1293
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 2: up with hairy back and a Big adam's. Apple it's

1294
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 2: the stigma attached to it can be taken. Away and,

1295
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 2: this this this endeavor can actually advance humanity quite a

1296
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 2: lot and quality quality of, life, yeah quality of life

1297
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 2: for men and women around the. World AND i sit

1298
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 2: back and think about that and THINK i could play

1299
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 2: a major role in this, huge huge project and be

1300
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 2: almost a centerpiece of. It and you sit back and

1301
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 2: you look at, that and you go a million dollars like.

1302
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 2: Whatever like you, know you work hard enough in any

1303
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 2: industry over a period of, time you can you can

1304
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 2: earn a million. Dollars but to be a part of

1305
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 2: something that alter's history very, rarely and it may not

1306
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 2: it may not order. History you might not break the world,

1307
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 2: record but you've got to do these things in order

1308
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 2: to find it with you can or? Not, yeah you can't,

1309
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 2: say WELL i might. Not Therefore i'm not going to.

1310
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: TRY i, mean great, adventurers one thing about human human,

1311
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: evolution one thing where good good at is trying things

1312
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 1: that helps us evolve ahead of everything every other. Species

1313
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: and this might sound a little bit outlandish what you're,

1314
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: doing BUT i think it's a it's not me doing the,

1315
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: experiment but it's. You but at the same, time it's

1316
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 1: an experiment THAT i have a great deal of interest.

1317
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: IN i, Mean i'm going to be really. CURIOUS i

1318
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: definitely would watch that production of THE tv production Because

1319
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: i'm actually curious about what are the net side effects

1320
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: what you're going to. Experience AND i presume they're going

1321
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: to document this sort of, stuff And i'm going to

1322
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: say HOW i, feel and MAYBE i can't, sleep OR

1323
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: i can, sleep Or i'm sleeping worse or, better or

1324
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: maybe you become. Aggressive you don't become, aggressive you. Know

1325
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 1: i'm just actually really interested to hear about all this,

1326
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 1: stuff particularly since it's going to be t traded to.

1327
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 1: You so you're going to have doctors making sure that

1328
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: this is perfected for your, physiology and that basically what

1329
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: it means is that you don't have to go and

1330
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 1: become one of these gym guys who turn out looking

1331
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: like gorillas over a two year period because they're taking

1332
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 1: all this mad stuff you can actually just be have a, normal,

1333
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 1: normal more normal athletic. Phyzeke, yeah anything you're worried.

1334
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 2: About, yeah the reputation THING i don't care. ABOUT i

1335
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 2: took that on board pretty, quickly sat, down had to

1336
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 2: do some thinking about, reputation and THEN i, thought, right,

1337
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 2: well when it boils down to, it what is reputation

1338
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 2: at the end of the, Day and it's people's opinion

1339
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:35,919
Speaker 2: of you for the most part that you don't.

1340
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 3: Know so whose opinion DO i care?

1341
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 2: About quickly thought about, that you, know and then spoke

1342
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 2: to those people and beyond, that people can think what they.

1343
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 2: Want that doesn't affect me the side. Effects the only

1344
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 2: thing That i'm worried about is. Fertility i'm thirty. THREE

1345
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 2: i don't have kids, yet But i'm getting close to the.

1346
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: Age he DOES i mean to go and get some

1347
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: sperm frozen or whatever the case may.

1348
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 3: Be, YEAH i. Don't, yeah, YEAH i probably will free

1349
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 3: some sperm just in. Case. Yep.

1350
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 1: Management, yeah so risk is something in news that can be?

1351
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 2: Managed, yeah, yeah, correct, Correct that's that was the only

1352
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 2: thought and the main one from from my. Partner you,

1353
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 2: know she's she's brought that up straight, away and my

1354
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 2: parents brought that up straight. Away that was the only

1355
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 2: one from a medical, perspective because people keep saying to,

1356
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 2: me these things are, untried they're, Untested they're not that

1357
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 2: they're actually not that they're created for a, reason they

1358
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 2: have a medical, purpose but they've been they're being. Used

1359
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:39,879
Speaker 2: there's there's sports In america right now that the athletes

1360
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 2: are using these things as we. Speak you, know there's

1361
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 2: athletes in some sports playing well into their. Forties everyone, goes,

1362
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 2: oh they're freaks of.

1363
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 3: Nature they.

1364
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 1: Are they are in terms of. Talent they are in

1365
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 1: terms of talent, now but their longevity in the sport is,

1366
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 1: enhanced so to. Speak, yeah for. Sure and it doesn't

1367
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 1: mean it's, fake, no just, enhanced.

1368
01:08:58,760 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, correct.

1369
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 2: Correct and so these things are already out there that

1370
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 2: it's far less speculative than. People first. Thing you, know

1371
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 2: they think you're doing things that you, know the that

1372
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 2: were being done in the nineteen to Eighty olympics by

1373
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 2: flow jo or you, know things have progressed a long.

1374
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 1: Way who by the, way you, know unfortunately passed away

1375
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 1: early because obviously they were not doing it in a proper.

1376
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 2: Way because she's trying to beat a system to hide

1377
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 2: it to probably using too much at the wrong times.

1378
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 1: Like, that that's why they end all the wrong things

1379
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 1: and the wrong.

1380
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 3: Things, yeah that's where this.

1381
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 2: Is it's so transparent And i'm in the process at the,

1382
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 2: moment talking with my own team and. PEOPLE i was

1383
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 2: saying the other, Day i'd like to just employ a videographer.

1384
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 3: In house full time.

1385
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 2: Document, It, yeah to follow me, around BUT i imagine

1386
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,600
Speaker 2: like going to a medical clinic and documenting it and

1387
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 2: then me saying to camera, TODAY i took one hundred

1388
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 2: milligrams to test.

1389
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 3: AND i felt like this in the.

1390
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 2: Pool you, KNOW i woke up with a herd on

1391
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 2: like a sixteen year old in the morning AND i

1392
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 2: cried myself to.

1393
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 3: SLEEP i don't know whatever the side.

1394
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 2: Effects but just be completely. Transparent it's never. Happened, yeah,

1395
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 2: yeah it's never. Happened AND i think that's the awesome

1396
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 2: OPPORTUNITY i have at the. Moment and it probably fits

1397
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 2: my personality where you can YouTube.

1398
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 1: Series.

1399
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah sometimes to a, Fault i'm too honest about

1400
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 2: things and WHEN i speak, publicly but it kind of

1401
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 2: suits my personality TO, yea be one hundred percent transparent

1402
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 2: with this and just tell people this is What i'm.

1403
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 2: Doing this is How i'm doing, It this is How i'm,

1404
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 2: feeling and here's my performance.

1405
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: This swimmers Do vo two.

1406
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 3: Max we. Do it's pretty tough to do because you're

1407
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 3: in the water now that you're.

1408
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 1: Jumping do you get it on a bike or get

1409
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 1: it on a running machine and do?

1410
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 2: It there's a version of it. Swimming is it that

1411
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 2: we can? Do, yeah that we've done. PREVIOUSLY i Think

1412
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 2: i've done the bike. One i've never done the treadmill.

1413
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: One it'll be interesting to see Your vio two, max

1414
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: like if you take a like do a benchmark, now

1415
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 1: like you start it, now, yeah, yeah, yeah and then

1416
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 1: just watch it and then watch it as you progress

1417
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 1: in your, training maybe every month or something like. That

1418
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: you probably should document this like as you, say like video,

1419
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: videographer but then when you get on the, stuff then

1420
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,799
Speaker 1: start to see how Your vio two max. Changes.

1421
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 2: Yeah the companies i'm speaking to An america will do

1422
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,560
Speaker 2: testing on that as well because they want that for

1423
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 2: their own records as. Well but, yeah it'd be awesome

1424
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 2: to be able to do it all In. Australia BUT

1425
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 2: i just don't think where progressed. Enough we haven't got

1426
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 2: our heads around it enough to do the full process

1427
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 2: here In.

1428
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: Australia, yeah so will you When i'm going no doubt

1429
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: this is not going to happen until after The olympics

1430
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 1: because they've got to pick some people out of The

1431
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 1: olympics they want to put on the. Program, yeah and

1432
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 1: then it's going to happen sometime next. Year will you

1433
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 1: move to THE us to do your training and everything?

1434
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 2: ELSE i will Do i'd say camps and you do

1435
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 2: like a fight? Camp, ye do like a fight camp

1436
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 2: in THE.

1437
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: Us maybe twelve wed, Period.

1438
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 2: Yeah eight to twelve weeks with doctors with, facilities being

1439
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 2: able to dive off.

1440
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 3: Blocks i'm being allowed to film it a pull shout

1441
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 3: Out city Of Sydney.

1442
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 2: Council just, yeah with a bit more freedom to do,

1443
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 2: things to move around and to have. ACCESS i, mean

1444
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 2: theoretically doctors could prescribe all those things In. AUSTRALIA i

1445
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 2: just don't know if they. WOULD i think there's too

1446
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 2: much stigma That, look they probably.

1447
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: Get nervous that they're going to get. Canceled, yeah effectively

1448
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 1: by their own. Profession. YEAH i, mean and you, know

1449
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 1: look look at it happened To Charlie. Tier you, know

1450
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 1: like you, know obviously he's a good surgeon and basically

1451
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 1: it went against the grain and that doesn't work that

1452
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 1: well In. Australia, yeah so there's too much risk and

1453
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: as also you get dragged into. It so you're probably

1454
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:55,600
Speaker 1: better off out of, side out of, mind tope of.

1455
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 3: THING i.

1456
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 1: Think, So and do you do it like like you

1457
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 1: don't it every day for the next twol? Months do

1458
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 1: you do it like in a? Period like that's a.

1459
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 2: Current that's the current discussions at the, moment trying to

1460
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 2: reverse engineer from the games when they'll be because so

1461
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 2: much needs to unfold after The Paris. Olympics i'd say

1462
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,719
Speaker 2: the announcements will be made early next year around, athletes,

1463
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 2: locations broadcast, partners host, country all that kind of, stuff

1464
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 2: but be sort of early next. Year BUT i need

1465
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,719
Speaker 2: to reverse, engineer like what's the optimal amount of time

1466
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 2: and probably to know some of those, THINGS i need

1467
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 2: to do testing and understand where my body is at.

1468
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 2: Physiologically now you know where is my testosherund? Level now

1469
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 2: whereas you know all my hormone, levels how's my? Recovery so,

1470
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 2: Yeah i'm Still i'm still split in. Opinion like let's

1471
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 2: SAY a cycle is twelve weeks sixteen? Weeks DO i

1472
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 2: do one cycle leading into the. Game So i'm peaking

1473
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 2: at The games And i've done a full.

1474
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 3: Cycle is that? Enough DO i need to do a

1475
01:13:59,600 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 3: couple of?

1476
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 2: Cycles or AM i going to be doing really low

1477
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 2: level dosages WHERE i can just do a six month

1478
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 2: period of progressive like.

1479
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: Every day every? Day? Yeah who's going to advise you?

1480
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: On this is pretty? Scientific so you get pretty? Scientific

1481
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 1: you a scientist or some sort of, Person so be equal.

1482
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 2: Parts the medical team from within The Enhanced games and

1483
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 2: my own personal.

1484
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:25,600
Speaker 3: Advisor in that.

1485
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: Space and do they give that person to you or

1486
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 1: you have to find that.

1487
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 2: Person i'll find someone, anyway BECAUSE i wanted a second opinion.

1488
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 1: After russia for a.

1489
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 3: While they know the.

1490
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 2: Future, Yeah i've been speaking to some people at the,

1491
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 2: moment and the People i'm speaking with have worked with those.

1492
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 2: Names we've mentioned That Andrew, humans The Joe rogan's over

1493
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 2: in that same part of The, States so you, Know

1494
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 2: i'll probably get myself over To, austin.

1495
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 3: Meet with them and go from.

1496
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 1: There it's, funny it's sort of it feels like every

1497
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: traditional format of, sport, golf, tennis, boxing perhaps In Olympics,

1498
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 1: live the live type, stuff the destructor the. Disruptors you,

1499
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: know these are all being. FUNDED a lot of these

1500
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: have been funded out of super rich, people out Of Saudi.

1501
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,640
Speaker 1: Arabia but you know there's plenty super rich people In

1502
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 1: america who are probably thinking the same. Thing let's disrupt

1503
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 1: what's always, happened and let's just see where it. Lands

1504
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 1: it is, divisive it may well. Be let's make a

1505
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 1: silly hypothesis half the world hates, it but it doesn't

1506
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 1: matter if half the world loves. It that's a big.

1507
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: Audience and at the end of the, day you can't

1508
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 1: make everybody happy in whatever you. Disrupt if you can

1509
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: GET i, mean it's a silly, example but if you

1510
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 1: can get half the world, supported it's actually quite a

1511
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 1: good commercial proposition For deal and his cohort from a

1512
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 1: business point of. View But i'd say what goes well

1513
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 1: beyond That for those, INDIVIDUALS i think they're probably thinking

1514
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 1: a bit Like. Live in terms of, golf are there

1515
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 1: people who want to see a different? FORMAT i, Mean

1516
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: Kerry packer was the first to wel series. Cricket how

1517
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 1: do we challenge cricket? Correct and a lot of people

1518
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 1: criticize the hell out of. Him but now it's the

1519
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 1: format one. Day it's just it is now the. Format

1520
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:21,560
Speaker 1: and PERHAPS i don't, know but perhaps there might be

1521
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,640
Speaker 1: in parallel and you might be part of, it you,

1522
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 1: know because the you, know and you remember the people

1523
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 1: who you probably won't be probably too, young but you

1524
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been born, actually but the you, know the

1525
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 1: the you, know The World Series cricket individuals And one day,

1526
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 1: cricketers the names that he had to drag. In, yeah

1527
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 1: they were well known people like you.

1528
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 2: Are WHEN i look at those, disruptors the end, BENEFICIARIES

1529
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 2: i believe are always the athletes because options create increased

1530
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 2: funding that becomes a bidding. War when you look At Super,

1531
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 2: League Live, Golf One day, cricket whenever there's been, disruptors the,

1532
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 2: athletes they generally that the world equalizes. Eventually and you

1533
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 2: See live golf AND pga now trying to come to.

1534
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 2: Terms Super league AND arl came to. Terms One day

1535
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:19,560
Speaker 2: cricket And test cricket came to.

1536
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 1: TERMS i See Craig james is doing the. Moment he's

1537
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 1: got the in the jiu, jitsu he's got the cg

1538
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 1: The CRAIG Cj games or something of that where it's

1539
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 1: taking ON. Ufc, yeah, yeah, Yeah AND i actually heard

1540
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 1: Done away being interviewed about it and he just, said,

1541
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: oh it's a great, idea even though you know it's

1542
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 1: sort of having sort of looking at competing WITH.

1543
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 2: UFC i, guess but it's a million dollar. Price, yeah

1544
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 2: the million dollars. Helps BUT i think imagine for the

1545
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 2: life span Of olympic. Athletes let's just use swimming as an.

1546
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 2: Example so most swimmers are done by late. Twenties let's

1547
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 2: say twenty, seven that's an. Average let's say they complete

1548
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 2: Their olympic, career they get to twenty, seven that they're

1549
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 2: a little bit beat, Up they've got some. Injuries they,

1550
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 2: GO i can actually now go to the Enhanced games

1551
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 2: for more, money for increased medical.

1552
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 3: SUPPORT i can heal up these, INJURIES i can.

1553
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:13,639
Speaker 2: Feel, BETTER i can raise, faster AND i can prolong

1554
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,759
Speaker 2: my career and provide for my family and the people

1555
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 2: that made sacrifices to get me to this point of

1556
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 2: WHERE i am. Currently because you, know as a Current olympic,

1557
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 2: athlete it's not that financially rewarding unless.

1558
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:29,759
Speaker 3: You're your tippity tipitty.

1559
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 2: Top SO i think the biggest benefactors in all of

1560
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 2: this again will be the. Athletes we're going to show

1561
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 2: for the, world you, know these new methodology that can

1562
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 2: be used in everyday, life and that's. Exciting but for,

1563
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 2: athletes AND i know a lot of athletes That i've spoken,

1564
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 2: to they're sitting back watching this very closely thinking is

1565
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 2: this my next?

1566
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 1: Move final question for, you how much of this is

1567
01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: exciting To James magnuson because he's the sort of guy

1568
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: who just doesn't like being told what he, is how

1569
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 1: he's going to live his, life what to, do huge,

1570
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:12,640
Speaker 1: part huge. Part the first thing that's Very, australian by the,

1571
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 1: way the first, thing you.

1572
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 2: Know a lifeguard came up over to us the other

1573
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:20,679
Speaker 2: day AND i was, swimming and he, said you can't

1574
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 2: dive on the blocks and he walked. Away and the

1575
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 2: first THING i said to the GUY i was, SWIMMING i, said,

1576
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 2: FUCK i hate being told what to.

1577
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 3: Do that's.

1578
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 1: Me it's funny How i've always been the same type of.

1579
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: PERSON i remember WHEN covid was, on AND i remember

1580
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: one DAY i. Walked you, know you wouldn't to go

1581
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 1: ANYWHERE i. WALKED i used to go up to The

1582
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 1: botannial guards because my off is not far from, there

1583
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 1: AND i just thought it was a nice sunny. Day

1584
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 1: it was the middle of. WINTER i, Thought i'm just

1585
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 1: gonna walk with The Batannon, gards gonna sit down in the.

1586
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,679
Speaker 1: Sun be. Nice because my office was across the. Road

1587
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 1: and the dude walked up to me and he from

1588
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 1: the gardens, there and he said to, me you can't sit.

1589
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 2: There.

1590
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 3: MMM i was.

1591
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 1: Amazing no one, here they joined, empty so you can't sit.

1592
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 1: THERE i, said why CAN'T i? See they, said because

1593
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 1: of THE covid. RULES i, said what are you talking,

1594
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 1: about LIKE covid? Rules AND i, Said i'm not, Moving i'm.

1595
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 1: Staying and he, said, well i'll call, security call it

1596
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 1: if you. LIKE i don't give you a. Ship for

1597
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 1: a moment THAT i, THOUGHT i don't want to have

1598
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 1: to fight a whole lot of. Blokes BUT i got

1599
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 1: a head of steam up BECAUSE i just think it's

1600
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 1: part of the fabric of Us. Australians we don't want

1601
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 1: to do. It everyone else in the world has done like.

1602
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 1: This How australia. Started you, know all our forebears were

1603
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 1: people who were probably still on lofe for bread because

1604
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 1: they were because they were starving to, death or they

1605
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 1: Are irish living In liverpool because the famine had been an,

1606
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 1: island had gone across The liverpool to get a, job

1607
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 1: trying to get some makes to, live just AS i

1608
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 1: had to steal, something you, KNOW i look back On

1609
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 1: i've looked back on my mother's side of the. Family

1610
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 1: one of our one of her descendants or people she's descended,

1611
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:00,679
Speaker 1: from got sent To australia for steel billing a coat

1612
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,719
Speaker 1: in the middle of winter from a. Policeman was about,

1613
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:07,640
Speaker 1: me but still that's what the person got convicted, of

1614
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 1: and we sent To australia on one of the ships

1615
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 1: as a. Convict but the person was just trying to stay,

1616
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 1: warm and we, are AND i Think cove is a great.

1617
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 1: Example we were being told we're not having a crack

1618
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,560
Speaker 1: at vaccines or anything That i'm not in any vaccine me,

1619
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 1: wrong but just being told what to do all the

1620
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,640
Speaker 1: time without enough evidence to back up whether or not

1621
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 1: it's actually the right thing to do or the wrong

1622
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:34,640
Speaker 1: thing to do as, Well and what you're going to

1623
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 1: participate is in something that's going to try and perhaps

1624
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 1: solve that, question what is the right, level what is

1625
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,640
Speaker 1: the right dost can we do or can't we? Do

1626
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 1: it doesn't make us have more. Vitality it's worth a.

1627
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 1: Crack and by the, way it's an individual's choice at

1628
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 1: the end of the. Day and it's not even being.

1629
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: Nonconformance it's just SAYING i got the ability to make a,

1630
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 1: choice And i'm going to make that. Choice and if

1631
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:01,680
Speaker 1: you don't like, it.

1632
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 3: That's okay by me. Too, yeah that's, it And i'll cover.

1633
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 2: It.

1634
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 3: Sweet.

1635
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah whatever the outcome, is the outcome is my, body my.

1636
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 1: Risk i'll do IT i think is right for, me

1637
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 1: and it's Not and as long as it's not, dangerous it's. Okay,

1638
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 1: yeah SO i, reckon it's fucking.

1639
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 2: AWESOME i keep saying to people is you, know, people

1640
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 2: whether they, say you, KNOW i hate, IT i love,

1641
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:22,560
Speaker 2: it or whatever their, reaction.

1642
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 3: Just be patient on this. One sit, back let it roll. Out,

1643
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 3: yeah you're not taking any.

1644
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 2: Risks sit, back watch it, unfold watch what, happens and

1645
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 2: at the end of this, process sit, down watch the,

1646
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 2: documentary watch my. Race then give me your. Opinion, yeah

1647
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 2: because now it's all. Hypotheticals you, KNOW i think this is. Bullshit,

1648
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 2: this you know, why just, Relax sit, back watch, it

1649
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 2: let it. Unfold let me take the. Risks i'm the risk.

1650
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 2: Taker i've done that my whole. LIFE i love that.

1651
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 2: SHIT i live in that. World let me take the.

1652
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 2: Risk you sit, back you, watch and then make your

1653
01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 2: opinion at the end of.

1654
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 1: It some of the greatest discoveries in medicine, today and in,

1655
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 1: fact we have Two Nobel prize winners out Of West

1656
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 1: australia who took a, bacteria The hellia back To pylori,

1657
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 1: bacteria ingested it themselves to see whether or not they

1658
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 1: would cause an ulcer in the, stomach and they want

1659
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 1: A Nobel prize because it. Didn't and they realized that

1660
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 1: stomach ulcers largely apart from taking nassas and sort of

1661
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 1: some chemicals that may cause your, problem stomach ulcers are

1662
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 1: largely caused by a bacteria which they ingested themselves to

1663
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 1: prove the. Point and if they hadn't done, that we

1664
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 1: would never have got the answer to why we get

1665
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: stomach ulcers and therefore and we would never have worked

1666
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 1: out what the remedy for stomach ulcers are as an.

1667
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 1: Antibiotic and as a result of these two dudes Won

1668
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 1: Nobel prizes And i'm not putting up in The Nobel prize,

1669
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 1: category but it's sort of that's part of the. PROCESS i,

1670
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 1: mean we don't discover things about ourselves unless someone a

1671
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 1: person or persons are prepared to take a. Risk all

1672
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: the differences here is is it's been. Made it's a

1673
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 1: bit hollywoodish and that has been. Made there's a bit

1674
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 1: OF tv series made out blah blah blah, blah and

1675
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 1: there's a games and they're calling it a. Game it

1676
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 1: is probably is sort of offended a few, people but

1677
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 1: it is part of an experiment and we will never

1678
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:26,839
Speaker 1: know unless someone tries. It so good, Righting James. Magerson

1679
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 1: i'm going to call you the scud missile now the.

1680
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 1: Missile thanks very much made and good luck to.

1681
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 3: You thanks, man