WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 3 June

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<v Speaker 1>Lately.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Late Debase.

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<v Speaker 3>Good evening, and welcome to the program. I'm Caleb Bond

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<v Speaker 3>with Liz Storer and Joe Hildebrand. Well, what happens when

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<v Speaker 3>gay rights activists and pro Palestinian activists meet in the street.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not exactly tea and biscuits. We'll show you that

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<v Speaker 3>later in the show when we.

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<v Speaker 2>Get to the papers.

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<v Speaker 3>The federal government has come up with an ingenious way

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<v Speaker 3>to get more people into the military. Will tell you

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<v Speaker 3>what it is. And politicians, really they should not try

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<v Speaker 3>to be cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It never works. It's always bad.

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<v Speaker 3>And we have for you a forty four gallon drumsworth

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<v Speaker 3>of cringe worthiness to show you later in the show.

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<v Speaker 3>But first, Anthony Fauci, of course, the former Chief Medical

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<v Speaker 3>Advisor to the US, best known for hits such as

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<v Speaker 3>I Loved the nightlife before lockdowns came to town. No

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<v Speaker 3>kissing in the back row of the movies because you're

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<v Speaker 3>wearing a mask. And then we all know that he

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<v Speaker 3>co wrote the song Don't Stand so Close to Me

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<v Speaker 3>for the police.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's turned.

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<v Speaker 3>Out that everything he came up with during the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 3>or at least a lot of it, was.

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<v Speaker 2>All made up.

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<v Speaker 3>Today US time, he is due to give testimony for

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<v Speaker 3>the first time since his retirement at a public inquiry

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<v Speaker 3>into COVID, but earlier in the year he sat down

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<v Speaker 3>for a two day, fourteen hour interview behind closed doors.

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<v Speaker 3>Well the transcript of that interview has been released, in

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<v Speaker 3>which he has asked some pretty pertinent questions about decisions

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<v Speaker 3>that were made at the time, such as, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>when we decided that we would have social distancing, which

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<v Speaker 3>in the US he decided would be six foot, was

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<v Speaker 3>there any basis for that? Had he read any studies

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<v Speaker 3>that suggested that six foot would work? He said, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't recall. It just sort of appeared out of

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<v Speaker 3>thin air. Presumably he was not aware, he said, of

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<v Speaker 3>any status that supported the concept of social distancing, and

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<v Speaker 3>that it would be very difficult to conduct any such study.

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<v Speaker 3>He was also asked if he had followed any studies

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<v Speaker 3>into mask wearing on children. He said no. He paid

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<v Speaker 3>no attention to the impact on children that it had caused,

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<v Speaker 3>including that they couldn't read the words coming out of

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<v Speaker 3>teacher's mouths, and that that, of course had affected their

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<v Speaker 3>learning ability.

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<v Speaker 2>He had not.

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<v Speaker 3>Looked into whether this would be a problem before he

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<v Speaker 3>instituted those rules. He's even admitted that the lab leak,

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<v Speaker 3>which he four years ago poo pooed as a conspiracy theory,

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<v Speaker 3>was a possibility. Isn't it amazing how all these things

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<v Speaker 3>start to come undone. All these rules that we were

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<v Speaker 3>told we had to follow for our own safety were

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<v Speaker 3>not based on fact.

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<v Speaker 2>They were basically pulled out of thin air.

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<v Speaker 3>I think many people, including me, will be pulling out

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<v Speaker 3>the popcorn for him his testimony overnight. I suspect that

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<v Speaker 3>his discussions with his advisers and in his testimony tomorrow

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<v Speaker 3>might go something like this.

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<v Speaker 2>What am I going to say?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell them? You make him me say?

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<v Speaker 4>Brilliant?

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<v Speaker 3>Brilliant?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what made Brittain great?

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<v Speaker 3>Hand?

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<v Speaker 1>Thirstfully?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm so sorry, I'm sorry, I'm so sorry, but

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<v Speaker 3>my wife has made a mistake.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know how she did, but she's made a

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<v Speaker 5>complete putting in the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Is he was a little bit perfect? Right? Would say

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<v Speaker 3>I saw it all that, I'm faithful this im but

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, women and they got one break between

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<v Speaker 3>the lot and what not all but.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean something, So please do stare and see all

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<v Speaker 5>later on.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much because quite frankly, what else is

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<v Speaker 3>he going to say? How is he going to dig

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<v Speaker 3>himself out of this one? Li is? I mean, you

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<v Speaker 3>know the blook the chief medical advisor, who you would

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<v Speaker 3>hope was making decisions when we're told constant during COVID

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<v Speaker 3>you know, or it's all based on the medical advice.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the medical advice, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Medical advice, and the medical advice it turns out, was

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<v Speaker 3>literally made up on the spot with no evidence whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 4>Trust the experts, ladies and gentlemen, Trust the experts.

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<v Speaker 1>Little wonder this.

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<v Speaker 4>Guy stepped down in December twenty two after fifty four

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<v Speaker 4>years of working in government. Can you imagine how many

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<v Speaker 4>palms you grease, how many deals behind closed doors you strike?

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<v Speaker 1>Four years in government? What was that show?

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<v Speaker 4>How bigs is, how big pension is, which this guy

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<v Speaker 4>is the best paid in pension terms federal employee ever.

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<v Speaker 4>He's stepped away with over four hundred and seventeen thousand

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<v Speaker 4>dollars annually.

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<v Speaker 1>For the rest of his life.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the legacy of the face of the US

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<v Speaker 4>COVID response. And get this, during during the pandemic, when

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<v Speaker 4>his views were in vogue and he was basically the

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<v Speaker 4>messiah of.

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<v Speaker 1>The US and could do no wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>He was more than happy to hand down these edicts

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<v Speaker 4>and implore us to follow the science. But this was

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<v Speaker 4>one of the many guys who said that the science

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<v Speaker 4>said that the vaccine stopped transmission.

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<v Speaker 1>The science is very clear on that now.

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<v Speaker 4>But everything he said, he was so bulshy about it

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<v Speaker 4>at the time, and in the succeeding years he's slowly

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<v Speaker 4>not taken responsibility and said I made a mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you'll ever hear.

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<v Speaker 4>Those words come out of Fauci's mouth, But instead it's

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<v Speaker 4>always complete denial, like oh, he's literally said, I've never

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<v Speaker 4>locked down schools. I was never a party to that whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 4>There's zero responsibility. In my books, that's the kind of

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<v Speaker 4>guy he is. There's a lot of articles written about

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<v Speaker 4>the narcissism of this, and he's simply, in his own eyes,

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<v Speaker 4>ten do no wrong joke.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's about more than Fauci as a man.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the problem is not so much that there

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't a sort of perfect settled science on say, social

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<v Speaker 5>distancing or mask wearing. Right now. I remember listening to

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<v Speaker 5>the radio when people were saying, no, don't wear masks

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<v Speaker 5>because you're more likely to fidge it with your face,

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<v Speaker 5>you're more likely to touch yourself as you adjust it,

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<v Speaker 5>and there you'refore you're more likely to transmit the disease.

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<v Speaker 5>And I remember someone saying, yeah, there's not really any

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<v Speaker 5>studies into mask wearing, whether it's effective, and things like this,

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<v Speaker 5>we should probably do one, And then suddenly it's wear

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<v Speaker 5>a mask otherwise you're killing people, and you're killing grandma

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<v Speaker 5>and you're a murderous psychopath. And so again, I think

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<v Speaker 5>if you had just said these things, if these guidelines

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<v Speaker 5>had been as said, Look, it's probably just common sense

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<v Speaker 5>that you're less likely to spread the disease, especially if

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<v Speaker 5>it's going through you know, if it's water borne on

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<v Speaker 5>you know, spittle or whatever, it's grost. But you know,

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<v Speaker 5>if you're two meters away from someone, you're probably less

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<v Speaker 5>likely to give it to them. Then if you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it's probably better if you wash your hands. These are

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<v Speaker 5>the guys like the fault. The problem was that this

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<v Speaker 5>kind of you know, vibe was turned into a horrendously

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<v Speaker 5>nasty and politically charged kind of doctrine or orthodoxy that

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<v Speaker 5>forced people to do things. So again, was there probably

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<v Speaker 5>was there a justification for some social distinct some restridents. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 5>Does this mean we had to shut down schools or

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<v Speaker 5>children's playgrounds. Absolutely not. But because people turned this kind

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<v Speaker 5>of thing into a sort of almost a messianic cause,

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<v Speaker 5>and people were staking their virtue on it but also

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<v Speaker 5>staking their political capital on it and looking at how

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<v Speaker 5>popular it was making them. By beating back this disease

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<v Speaker 5>that everyone was scared of, you had this old sort

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<v Speaker 5>of one two trick where you terrorize people about how

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<v Speaker 5>deadly the disease is. Then you go even harder than

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<v Speaker 5>you need to over it, and people go, thank you,

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<v Speaker 5>dear God, thank you, dear leader for saving us from

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<v Speaker 5>the disease. And so it's not necessarily the fault of

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<v Speaker 5>an inni science. It's a fault of that being weaponized

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<v Speaker 5>by scared and quite frankly often ignorant people with no

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<v Speaker 5>sense of proportion, but also that being exploited and manipulated

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<v Speaker 5>by governments and public health efficients for their own standing.

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<v Speaker 3>Well was the point where it turned into mandate and

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<v Speaker 3>drive and rule, where it became a problem because you

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<v Speaker 3>can you can have a you can have a doctor

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<v Speaker 3>stand there and say we think on the balance of

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<v Speaker 3>probabilities that it's probably better if you don't stand so

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<v Speaker 3>close to someone. Fine, you can choose whether or not

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<v Speaker 3>you take that into account.

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<v Speaker 5>Stand don't someone, then you're an evil killer and you

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<v Speaker 5>need to be shots.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you don't do it, there will be a

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<v Speaker 3>rule to say you can be punished for doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you never forget that.

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<v Speaker 3>Here in Australia, you know, we had people terrorized in

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<v Speaker 3>parks for sitting there having a cup of coffee in

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<v Speaker 3>the morning with no one else around them, because that

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<v Speaker 3>was supposedly a danger.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so patently stupid.

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<v Speaker 3>And what keeps coming to light is that these decisions

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<v Speaker 3>were not made on the basis of any evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>They were made on.

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<v Speaker 3>The basis of, well, maybe that's the right thing to do.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's fine to tell people what you think is

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<v Speaker 3>the right thing to do. But when you then start

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<v Speaker 3>saying you're going to copy fine because you were sitting

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<v Speaker 3>in the park at ten am having a cup of

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<v Speaker 3>coffee when you were literally.

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<v Speaker 2>Of no danger to anyone.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, there is still no evidence anywhere

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<v Speaker 3>in the world of transmission outdoors.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when it became.

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<v Speaker 3>A joke, and that's what people like Fauci and the

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<v Speaker 3>various Chief Medical offices and chief health officers in this

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<v Speaker 3>country allowed to happen. I mean remember in South Australia

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<v Speaker 3>when they went into lockdown pat football in know there

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<v Speaker 3>was that, But in November of twenty twenty they went

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<v Speaker 3>into lockdown because Nikolas Spurria thought that COVID had been

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<v Speaker 3>transmitted on a pizza box.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there was no.

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<v Speaker 5>Evidence anywhere in the whole formula where you have a

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<v Speaker 5>very preachy, judge, comfortable inner city progressive class telling everyone

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<v Speaker 5>else what they have to do for their own good,

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<v Speaker 5>really your own and it's the same thing. And again

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<v Speaker 5>I say this as someone who wants to see action

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<v Speaker 5>on these things, but it is just so damaged. You

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<v Speaker 5>see the same thing on climate change, the same thing

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<v Speaker 5>on COVID, this catastrophism, this certainty, and the shaming of

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<v Speaker 5>anyone who dares question it or who dares suggest a

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<v Speaker 5>more moderate approach. And then of course when a crack

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<v Speaker 5>appears in that certainty, when a cheek appears in that

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<v Speaker 5>certainty among say mask wearing or social distancing people on

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<v Speaker 5>the other well it's all bullshit. Then it's all rubbish,

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<v Speaker 5>and so they throw the baby out with the bathroot,

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<v Speaker 5>and some people are saying all vaccines are killing everybody

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<v Speaker 5>and again, so you've got an extreme position on this

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<v Speaker 5>side leads to the very extreme position on that side

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<v Speaker 5>that this light think that they're actually trying to suppress,

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<v Speaker 5>they're fueling it. I mean, you could write a formula

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<v Speaker 5>for it. It's like going after Donald Trump for paying

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<v Speaker 5>hush mantivers storming Daniels. The harder you go, and the

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<v Speaker 5>more indignant and judgy and morally pure you make yourself

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<v Speaker 5>out to be and morally impure you make your opponents

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<v Speaker 5>out to be, the more you actually make people just

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<v Speaker 5>look at you. We know what you're wrong. You're a wanker.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe you're the one who's hysterical. Maybe you're the one

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<v Speaker 5>who's and fount She.

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<v Speaker 4>Was also responsible, because of his seniority, for demonizing any

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<v Speaker 4>doctors who were saying, you're asking us to choose between

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<v Speaker 4>never being able to practice again in giving individual advice

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<v Speaker 4>to individuals who we know their medical history. Very intimately,

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<v Speaker 4>you're asking us to choose between that. You're basically asking

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<v Speaker 4>us to throw our duty out the window and just

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<v Speaker 4>follow you come what may. There's also the issue of

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<v Speaker 4>the gain of function research, which throughout his career he'd

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<v Speaker 4>been a very big advocate for public funding of gain

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<v Speaker 4>of function research, and everyone was told, oh, no, the

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<v Speaker 4>US hasn't got any publicly funded gain of function research

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<v Speaker 4>happening in Wohnt.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes they did.

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<v Speaker 4>That's another thing that everyone knows now it's rather common

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<v Speaker 4>of fact. But again, who was one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 4>cheerleaders saying oh no, nothing just here when it is

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<v Speaker 4>inconceivable that he didn't know that, Yes, there was some

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<v Speaker 4>US funded Now I'm not saying they were involved in COVID,

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<v Speaker 4>but this manipulation.

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<v Speaker 5>When you say something with absolute authority and say that

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<v Speaker 5>anyone who dares suggest otherwise is a liar or malevolent

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<v Speaker 5>or evil or stupid, and then suddenly one little thing,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's probably completely benign the game and function

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<v Speaker 5>stuff they were doing, or funding.

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<v Speaker 1>The gain of function. My definition is not benign. Is

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<v Speaker 1>the manipulation of.

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<v Speaker 4>Virus not to make them even more deadly and more transmissible.

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<v Speaker 5>That is the may not get it may not have

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<v Speaker 5>been the cause of COVID, It may not actually have

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<v Speaker 5>been the result of COVID. We don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not insinuated.

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<v Speaker 5>But the point the point. The point is once a

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<v Speaker 5>little again, once a cheek in the armor, like that,

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<v Speaker 5>if you if instead of just being honest with people

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<v Speaker 5>and saying, listen, this is what we think is probably

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<v Speaker 5>the best thing to do. Use your common sense, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>protect yourself as much you can. Here is the best

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<v Speaker 5>advice if you give. Once you go from that to

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<v Speaker 5>saying if you do not do this, you are evil

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<v Speaker 5>or stupid or selfish, and then suddenly a chink in

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<v Speaker 5>that armor appears, so a little bit of uncertainly peers.

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<v Speaker 5>Suddenly people like your good self or others are completely

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<v Speaker 5>within their rights. And then say, well, if you lied

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<v Speaker 5>about this, and you told us that this was a

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<v Speaker 5>matter of life and death, then who's to say you're

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<v Speaker 5>not lying about all the other stuff. And so they

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<v Speaker 5>end up just kicking over their own house of cards.

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<v Speaker 3>And if only we would have a royal commission into

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<v Speaker 3>all of this here, I mean, you know, we.

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<v Speaker 2>Were promised, if only, and the best.

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<v Speaker 3>We've had is some you know, weakers piss investigation where

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<v Speaker 3>the premiers aren't even forced it to.

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<v Speaker 5>There will be a release of the teams of documents

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<v Speaker 5>as calling the latest decision in Victoria the admissive decisions.

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<v Speaker 5>Tribunal I think it is has actually said, no, you

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<v Speaker 5>have to hand over all the advice, you have to

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<v Speaker 5>hand over all.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh glory, so.

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<v Speaker 5>Truth and nail.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't wait.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's no one holds your breath for them to deliver

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<v Speaker 4>on that.

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<v Speaker 1>But we all know that.

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<v Speaker 4>Certainly most of you watching would be sick to death

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<v Speaker 4>of welcome to countries. Well, the Department of Justice and

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<v Speaker 4>Attorney General decided to take this to a whole new level. Recently,

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<v Speaker 4>were bureaucrats working at one William Street during a welcome

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<v Speaker 4>to country and an awards ceremony were asked to remove

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<v Speaker 4>their shoes and wiggle their toes, close their eyes so

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<v Speaker 4>they would.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel more connected to the earth.

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<v Speaker 4>My first question upon reading this was were they even

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<v Speaker 4>outside or were they asked to do this? Because it's

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<v Speaker 4>an award ceremony Unless you're outside, that doesn't even make

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<v Speaker 4>any sense.

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<v Speaker 5>What about and die Hard? When John mcclan takes his

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<v Speaker 5>shoes off so we can scrunch up, helps him, helps him?

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<v Speaker 5>We could we could have an entire army of bureaucrats

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<v Speaker 5>who were finally in June to fighting terrorists with submachine guns.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they've done daily ground.

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<v Speaker 5>Crunched up the carpet and skyscraper under their little But they.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep coming up with new ideas every day, new wig.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it more to kill welcomes to country? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>last week we told you the story about a bloke

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<v Speaker 3>who went to a job interview and was subjected to

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<v Speaker 3>either a welcome or acknowledgment of country. Now we find

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<v Speaker 3>out that at an award ceremony with all these public

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<v Speaker 3>servants that they've got to take their shoes off. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I could think of nothing more that would turn me

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<v Speaker 3>off the idea of a welcome to country than all

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<v Speaker 3>of my colleagues taking off their smelly shoes to unfool

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<v Speaker 3>their smelly feet, to wiggle their toes around of it.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to know how many browbeaten bureaucrats were like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess we got to or whether wether the the

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<v Speaker 4>unspoken agreement as they looked at each other was like yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>because they were asked to.

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<v Speaker 5>It's kind of like they're taking the knee thing. It's

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<v Speaker 5>kind of like and again it's that kind of collective show,

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<v Speaker 5>like if you don't do this, you must be a

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<v Speaker 5>racist or you must hate We've we've got to get

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<v Speaker 5>to the bottom of this thank you for a mining

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<v Speaker 5>mehab because I know we talked about the guy who

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<v Speaker 5>got the welcomed country of the job in the country

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<v Speaker 5>at the job interview. Does that mean if he didn't

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<v Speaker 5>get the job, he's not welcome in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, that's a very good point. That is a very good.

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<v Speaker 5>Surely, if it's a welcome to country, if you're doing it,

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<v Speaker 5>you're saying, well, well, welcomed me here, part of the

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<v Speaker 5>you're part of the family.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not welcome anymore anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>I think what we've learn is taking your shoes off

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<v Speaker 3>to solve racism. Perhaps will pass that one onto Laura

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<v Speaker 3>Tingle while we're in Queensland, because that was an event

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<v Speaker 3>in Queensland. A large tract of Queensland has now been

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<v Speaker 3>given over to the local Aboriginal population, or a portion

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<v Speaker 3>of them anyway, through native title. We're talking about seven

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<v Speaker 3>eight hundred square kilometers worth of land that stretches its

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<v Speaker 3>way towards rock Hampton and it's the Barada Cabal Bara

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<v Speaker 3>Yetti Malara people. And I'm sorry if I didn't pronounce

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<v Speaker 3>that correctly, but they and given native title over this

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<v Speaker 3>land through the Federal court. This month after a ten

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<v Speaker 3>year fight. Now, of course, what happens with native title

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<v Speaker 3>is someone makes an application claiming that they have an

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<v Speaker 3>ancestral connection to this land.

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<v Speaker 2>In this case, it's a small.

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<v Speaker 3>Group of people who have traced their ancestry back to

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<v Speaker 3>five people who they say were on the land at

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<v Speaker 3>this time, and that then gives them the rights to

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<v Speaker 3>perform certain ceremonies and have certain use of the land.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't have freehold access to land, of course, under

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<v Speaker 3>native title, but what it does give them is the

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<v Speaker 3>ability to camp on the land. It gives them the

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<v Speaker 3>ability to hunt on the land, and of course it

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<v Speaker 3>allows them to make money off the land, and this

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<v Speaker 3>is where it becomes important. They can't use it for

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<v Speaker 3>commercial purposes. But what happens now is you have these

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<v Speaker 3>Aboriginal land corporations set up and they then deal with

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<v Speaker 3>government outfits and electricity companies and whatever when they look

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<v Speaker 3>to do any kind of work on the land. And

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen a few examples of this out of South Australia,

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<v Speaker 3>particularly the Barangala people, who of course were successful in

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<v Speaker 3>scuppering a nuclear waste dump near Kimber because they had

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<v Speaker 3>so much money in the bank that they were able

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<v Speaker 3>to go off to the court and fight it. Now

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<v Speaker 3>they're also fighting against a desalination plant because they say

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<v Speaker 3>the place where it will go will interrupt some old

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<v Speaker 3>fish traps in the water. And the way these land

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<v Speaker 3>corporations make their money is by doing deals with big business,

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<v Speaker 3>particularly electricity companies and mining companies that want to do

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<v Speaker 3>stuff on the land. You know, they do cultural studies

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<v Speaker 3>and they advise them on where they should or should

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<v Speaker 3>not go, and for that they get millions and millions

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<v Speaker 3>of dollars. So through native title they actually build up

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<v Speaker 3>a big bank by which they can start dictating to

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<v Speaker 3>government and everyone else what they should and should not

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<v Speaker 3>be allowed to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no issue with.

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<v Speaker 3>Saying, sure, come through and hunt on the land. I

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<v Speaker 3>particularly couldn't give a toss. But when it starts turning

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<v Speaker 3>into a venture that allows these land corporations that operate

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<v Speaker 3>under different corporate law to the rest of corporate Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you go through and read some of their

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<v Speaker 3>annual report, it's a bit murky as to where they

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<v Speaker 3>are where the money goes.

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<v Speaker 2>But they have real power now because of these.

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<v Speaker 5>I had absolutely no problem with this whatsoever. As you say,

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<v Speaker 5>there are often question marks over exactly how that money

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<v Speaker 5>is spent and who it goes to. And there's often

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<v Speaker 5>competing voices in the community, as often competing elders. So

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<v Speaker 5>for example, there might be a bunch of people and

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<v Speaker 5>you see this often with you know, Twiggy Forest minds.

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<v Speaker 5>Quite famously, we have a bunch of Averaginal people who

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<v Speaker 5>definitely want the mind to go ahead because they want

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<v Speaker 5>the jobs that go with it and the betterment that

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<v Speaker 5>go with it. And you have Aboriginal businesses that are

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<v Speaker 5>often prioritized and these projects they should be. And that's

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<v Speaker 5>good because we want to do things like tackle Indigenous

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<v Speaker 5>employment and tackle Indigenous education, make sure that these guys,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, have as much a strong future here as

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<v Speaker 5>the rest of us. So often often you know, Indigenous

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<v Speaker 5>people aren't just one sort of homogeneous thing, will think

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<v Speaker 5>the same way. We know that and again sometime, look,

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<v Speaker 5>we all know there were things like, you know, the

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<v Speaker 5>ridiculousness of the secret women's business decades ago.

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<v Speaker 2>That stopped the hind Marsh Island.

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<v Speaker 5>We've been built to hein Marsh Island. But if it's

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<v Speaker 5>if it's legit, and if it's actually doing it, I

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<v Speaker 5>have no problem whatsoever you've got You know often you

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<v Speaker 5>know big mining companies or energy companies making it absolute

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<v Speaker 5>matza out of this land. It has been their land

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<v Speaker 5>before we came along. If they're taking it, and if

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<v Speaker 5>they're using that money, and if they're being reasonable and

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<v Speaker 5>using that money for the betterment of their people, I

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<v Speaker 5>have no problem with it whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>But we don't have approve.

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<v Speaker 4>How much of Queensland isn't native title now, because I

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<v Speaker 4>still remember reading a ministerial media whatever they put out

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<v Speaker 4>by Scott Stewart, who was the Minister of Resources back

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<v Speaker 4>in July twenty one for Queensland, saying veryly that now

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<v Speaker 4>one third of Queensland was recognized as native title, and

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<v Speaker 4>I remember thinking at the time, gee, whiz okay, that's

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<v Speaker 4>a fair whack. Now we're talking about another chunk. And

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how much has happened in between that,

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<v Speaker 4>but we are now talking about ginormous packages of land.

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<v Speaker 4>Check Out this map of the entire nation which is

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<v Speaker 4>on the government's website. This is the native title state

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<v Speaker 4>of play ten years ago. They haven't gotten updated one

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<v Speaker 4>on their website. Why is that government, mister transparency so blue?

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<v Speaker 4>It islaments, the claimant native title is approved, the dark

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<v Speaker 4>green is sorry, the blue is there. There's claims in place,

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<v Speaker 4>So who knows what that looks like now because ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Years ago those claims are in place.

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<v Speaker 4>The dark green that is exclusive natal Native title r.

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<v Speaker 4>The pale green is non exclusive natal Native title territory.

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<v Speaker 4>So when we talk about native title and we talk

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<v Speaker 4>about these parcels of land now being recognized as a

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<v Speaker 4>native title, I always just remember this map because there's already.

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<v Speaker 5>Affect none of those I just told you.

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<v Speaker 1>Affecting our lives. We've got a decil in.

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<v Speaker 5>Terms of people are having in terms of people have

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<v Speaker 5>a millions waste of square kilometers who want to develop

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<v Speaker 5>it or want to use it for mining or agriculture

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<v Speaker 5>or whatever. Yes, they have to go.

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<v Speaker 1>How it affecting our lives. You just heard how it's

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<v Speaker 1>affecting our lives.

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<v Speaker 4>Nation building projects are getting scuppered because a handful of

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<v Speaker 4>Indigenous Australians are saying no, you don't like it.

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<v Speaker 5>So it seems like this get contested all the time.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a decl nation plant that was proposed for Sydney

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<v Speaker 5>that Penny people opposed that it wasn't indigenous people. It was

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<v Speaker 5>everyone else.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, this is a rather no, because in the case

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<v Speaker 4>of the nuclear dumping Campbell, wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It kim Kimber.

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<v Speaker 1>My apology I need.

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<v Speaker 2>Campus people of Kimber.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally went to a vote.

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<v Speaker 4>Over sixty percent of them said yes, we want this

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<v Speaker 4>nuclear waste dump. It'll bring us jobs, et cetera, and

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<v Speaker 4>so on. The Bongala people who got that scuppered weren't

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<v Speaker 4>included in the vote because.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't live there.

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<v Speaker 4>They were actually just reaching far too a thingle to

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<v Speaker 4>be like this thing in Kimber.

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<v Speaker 5>There are plenty of There are plenty of people. There

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<v Speaker 5>are plenty of residents action groups that as wide as

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<v Speaker 5>the driven snow, that oppose everything, including you know, it's

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<v Speaker 5>half the reason we've got a housing shortage, about plenty

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<v Speaker 5>of mosques opposing plenty of nuclear reactors power. And I

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<v Speaker 5>think just to single out one particular group across the

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<v Speaker 5>entire nation.

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<v Speaker 2>But I can.

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<v Speaker 3>I can go off and start, and you know, let's

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<v Speaker 3>use my example. I live in the inner West of

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<v Speaker 3>Sydney amongst all the lefties. So I don't think my

0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:56.720
<v Speaker 3>residence group's going to get much support, but I can

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<v Speaker 3>start the Inner West action group or whatever it might be.

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<v Speaker 3>But I can't just go around making money out of

0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:05.480
<v Speaker 3>surveys that have been done on the land, because you know,

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 3>I only have the patch of land that I live in, whereas,

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:10.840
<v Speaker 3>of course with native title, they get vast tracts of

0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:13.879
<v Speaker 3>land from which they are being able to make money

0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:17.600
<v Speaker 3>that flows into They didn't live on it.

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<v Speaker 2>They weren't there years ago, were they.

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<v Speaker 3>Well sure, I mean my ancestors lived on land near

0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:24.919
<v Speaker 3>gaul Or in South Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't have any claims to.

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<v Speaker 5>That land, to it. But this is land that your parents,

0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:32.560
<v Speaker 5>land that your parents had would come down to You

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<v Speaker 5>understand that the land gets bequeathed down the generations, right,

0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:38.680
<v Speaker 5>you have a will, you might get your parents house

0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:40.800
<v Speaker 5>when they pass on, you might give your house to

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<v Speaker 5>them down the track. You know how that works, right, So.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very different system.

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<v Speaker 5>But sure, so you know that like terror nullius no

0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 5>longer applies. But they had the land, but we have come.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're suggesting that from that point onwards that Aboriginal

0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:00.000
<v Speaker 3>people have been removed from the ability to gain freehold

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 3>old land.

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<v Speaker 5>They haven't, no, but they have been removed from the

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<v Speaker 5>land that they lived on.

0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:07.480
<v Speaker 3>But what do you think haven't in every other country

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:08.920
<v Speaker 3>on the face of the planet when.

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<v Speaker 5>All data Title says is all right, you just have

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<v Speaker 5>to consult these people on these things. And yes, sometimes

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 5>money changes hands, or sometimes people want projects to go ahead.

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:20.920
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes they don't want projects to go ahead. It's not

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<v Speaker 5>a cookie cutter approach where they're just blocking everything. And

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<v Speaker 5>usually when they're blocking something that everyone else wants, it

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:28.520
<v Speaker 5>gets called out and it gets found out. And that's

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<v Speaker 5>why you have things like the hind Marsh Bridge, or

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<v Speaker 5>like the nuclear dump site. I guarantee you there'll be

0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:36.040
<v Speaker 5>plenty of non Indigenous people who wouldn't want a nuclear

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<v Speaker 5>dump site anywhere near their looks.

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 4>The majority small handful of people who by.

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<v Speaker 2>Virtue have a four handful of blocking.

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<v Speaker 5>Look at Western City Airport. Look at Western City Airport.

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:52.000
<v Speaker 5>It took seventy years to get off the ground.

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Because all hands talking about.

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 5>People complaining about aircraft in.

0:25:56.560 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 1>The past come bearable. And you know it, that was

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<v Speaker 1>not of Native title. That's a pile of people saying.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to pile.

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<v Speaker 1>They are valid concerns.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone's I don't want the value of my house because

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in the flight path being being made.

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<v Speaker 5>We should have blocked the airport from people who bought

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:24.479
<v Speaker 5>their house thereafter already been zoned for an airport. But

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<v Speaker 5>we should not even consult with people have lived on

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 5>the land.

0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:36.200
<v Speaker 4>They have never this generation of Asis have never lived

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<v Speaker 4>on the land in the way that you're describing. As

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<v Speaker 4>far as I'm concerned, and as far as many Aussies

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<v Speaker 4>are concerned, they have no more claims to land.

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<v Speaker 5>Then you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You can still say that.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're not living in the communities, Joe. You know that.

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 3>And the people who were you talking about that, the

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<v Speaker 3>people who end up in charge of these Aboriginal land

0:26:57.640 --> 0:27:01.040
<v Speaker 3>corporations that then rather they don't.

0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:02.920
<v Speaker 2>I didn't say none of them, not all of them

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<v Speaker 2>live in the community.

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 3>You know that most of them, dear anyway, Let's move

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 3>on to Pride Month in the US. If you weren't aware,

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 3>incase you probably are aware, because it's a bit hard

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:17.959
<v Speaker 3>not to take note as June is set aside in

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 3>its entirety for Pride Month, and we know how much

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 3>time everyone else gets.

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Usually get a day.

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:26.199
<v Speaker 3>If you're very lucky, you'll get a week, But if

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 3>you are LGBTQ plus whatever you might want to add

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 3>on the end, you get an entire month, and they've

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 3>kicked off in the US with the Navy. Of course,

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 3>there's nothing else to worry about in the US at

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 3>the moment. There's no rising China, nothing else with which

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:43.399
<v Speaker 3>they should be concerned. They have joined in, of course,

0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 3>the chorus of virtue signaling that unfurls at this time.

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<v Speaker 2>Of year every year.

0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:52.400
<v Speaker 3>Take a look at this post here from the Navy

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 3>Seals talking up how important this time of year is,

0:27:56.960 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 3>you know, a dignity, service, spector quality.

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 2>On and on it goes. It staggers me.

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:10.399
<v Speaker 3>Every corporate outfit, nearly every corporate outfit in the world

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:13.640
<v Speaker 3>this time of year decides that they're going to slap

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:16.640
<v Speaker 3>something on their Facebook page or slap something on their

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:18.640
<v Speaker 3>Twitter page right and say.

0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh, look at us.

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 3>You know, we're all on board with lgbt isn't it lovely?

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 3>It's all about pride. If you go and check their

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 3>pages over in the Middle East. Of course, the Navy

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 3>Seals don't have a page over in the Middle East,

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 3>but you go and check all these businesses and their

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 3>stuff in the Middle East. There's no mention of pride

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 3>anywhere is the It is the ultimate corporate It's the

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 3>ultimate corporate virtue signaling, and it means absolutely nothing.

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean and no wonder.

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 3>We talked about this on the showdown last night, Joe,

0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 3>But I mean, no wonder. People don't want to sign

0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 3>up to the military. And we'll get to that in

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 3>the papers as well a bit later. When you know,

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 3>I think I'm going off to defend my country. No,

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 3>We're actually going to talk about pride.

0:28:58.960 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Isn't that?

0:28:59.280 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Forever?

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 4>Everyone in America this meme that you're about to seize

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 4>an accurate depiction of their life during the month of June.

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>They just want to go about their lives and they

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 1>have this Can we get that meme up?

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 4>They have this propaganda basically funneled down their necks every

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 4>single day.

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's not the one I had in mind.

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 5>New South Wales also stood for naval special warfare.

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 3>I know.

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 4>But of course this came to a head when pro

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 4>Palestinian protesters clashed with a Pride parade, in which we

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 4>see a wonderful example of the left eating itself because

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 4>I think my issue is more important than yours, and

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 4>you think your issue is more important than mine.

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Here's a little bit of how it went down.

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 4>But Queers for Palestine right, So I would have thought

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:20.120
<v Speaker 4>it would have just turned into an even bigger party.

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 4>Here's a little clip of a fellow in Palestine. It's

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 4>actually longer than this, but we got it down to

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 4>just one.

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 1>For you being us Queer's for Palestine. Are you happy

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 1>for their support?

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Adam Palestine like you.

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Against that totally?

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 3>Why why don't you need the support?

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 1>But I'm.

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 4>Madame Pales, but I'm he said that was to say

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 4>it is against for general being engaged. Maybe we should

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 4>show that to Quiz for Palestine and see how much

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 4>their support fares in the face of that. But here's

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 4>the mem I was trying to get up earlier, of people.

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Just trying to live their lives, try to go about

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 1>their business.

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 4>And as you and I know, when Marti Gras is

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 4>in town, it's a little bit similar. There is absolutely

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 4>no way of going about your everyday life without having

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 4>some sort of LGBTI propaganda shoved down your throat, even

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 4>if you just ventured out for a cough.

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean, at least Marti Gras is a one night event,

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 3>and I know it sort of morphs out into a week.

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 3>But I mean, seriously, why do you need an entire

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 3>month for Pride? When we talked about the Navy Seals before,

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know here in Australia, if you're in

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 3>the military, you get Anzac Day and you get Remembrance Day.

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 3>But you know, if you gay, you get a full month.

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 3>Why do you need an entire month for Pride?

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Why can't you just have you one day?

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 5>Maybe they get it done. You know, you got to

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 5>think about, Hey, look what you're gonna do. You're gonna

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:03.479
<v Speaker 5>tell where you're going to go, what you're going to order.

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 5>Come on, it's a party. You got to relax, Oh,

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 5>come on it.

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 2>But it's just out of control. And have a look

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 2>at this out of Orlando. This is a hotel.

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 3>The hotel had been hired out for an event for

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 3>Pride month. And if we've got a photo here, I

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 3>think of this teddy Bear bondage themed teddy Bear that

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 3>was shown out the front of the hotel.

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 2>We don't have a photo of it, sorry, but it

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:27.880
<v Speaker 2>was just the whole thing.

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 3>Well, put it this way, put it this way.

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:32.000
<v Speaker 2>It's a peak.

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 3>It is a pink to purple inflatable teddy bear that

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 3>would be about ten to eleven foot high with a

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 3>ball gag in its mouth and bondage gear on.

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Right now, I looked at this well.

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 3>I didn't have to look at it for very long

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 3>to gather what was on it.

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 2>But now the hotel, it didn't speak for itself the hotel.

0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 2>The hotel received complaints and they took it down. What

0:32:58.880 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 2>is surprise?

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:04.240
<v Speaker 3>Why even do that in the first place. I've always said,

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 3>what you do in the bedroom is none of my business.

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 3>Keep the government out of the bedroom, and that's exactly

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 3>how it should be.

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 2>But the bedroom is no longer in the bedroom. The

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 2>bedroom is everywhere for these kinds.

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Of things, and it raises a lot of questions.

0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:22.720
<v Speaker 4>Remember just last year we had some similar graffiti put

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 4>up here in Sydney of I think it was also

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 4>a teddy bear wearing bondage, and some legend went out

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 4>there and painted over it. Liz saw a condoned graffiti

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 4>right there, and I said on air, how great I

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 4>thought that was. That I got several dms from people

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 4>being like, oh, you liked my works, did you? Because

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 4>when you're right, when it comes out of the bedroom

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 4>and is flagrantly, especially using a Teddy bear, which again

0:33:53.400 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 4>that's recognized as something kids gravitate towards, not question about.

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:04.720
<v Speaker 1>None of us want to know it's not that later show.

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 5>Joe to be Bears, not Gilligans. There are no kids there,

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:09.919
<v Speaker 5>I can.

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 4>Promise with that far more important matters now, Bill Shorten

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 4>has decided. Although he says it wasn't his decision to

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:23.279
<v Speaker 4>have a speech writer being paid three hundred thousand dollars

0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 4>a year, this is more than most sitting MPs. Their

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:33.399
<v Speaker 4>base salary doesn't come near that, but he is him saying, yeah, look,

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:35.640
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't even my decision.

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I just ended up with this guy. What am I

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 1>supposed to do about it?

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:44.839
<v Speaker 6>I think that service the hiring of a speech writer

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 6>was done by Service Australia. I had no idea what

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 6>the payment was, so if you're trying to link me

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 6>to that, you know, good luck. The point about it

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 6>is the person involved is a speechwriter does a very

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:58.240
<v Speaker 6>good job. I'm not responsible for negotiating a contract.

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>We would hope he does a very good job.

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 4>Although your speech is don't quite reflect that.

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 1>What do they should be guilted with gold? Right now?

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:10.799
<v Speaker 4>Also, this excuse of oh I didn't know, he was

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:11.719
<v Speaker 4>just handed to me.

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 1>How was I supposed to know?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, now you're aware, you're not going to do

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<v Speaker 4>anything about it. This is the minister responsible for welfare

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<v Speaker 4>in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>That's essentially what he looks at.

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<v Speaker 7>After that, here he is while Australia suffers and groans

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<v Speaker 7>underneath the cost of living crisis that is putting the

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<v Speaker 7>middle class and everybody else underneath, to bringing them to

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<v Speaker 7>their knees, and he was all.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, hah, well he's also he's also the main responsible for,

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<v Speaker 3>of course cutting the waist out of the nda IS.

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<v Speaker 3>But before very good, before Julian Stewart writes into complain

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<v Speaker 3>that you've missed jin her.

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<v Speaker 2>She she is a woman.

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<v Speaker 3>Before before she went off to work for Services Australia

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<v Speaker 3>on three hundred thousand dollars a year, which like, if

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<v Speaker 3>you're a staff or a speech writers as a political staff,

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 3>you'd been on about one hundred and forty at the

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<v Speaker 3>good end of things, so three hundred is pretty good going.

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<v Speaker 3>But before going to Services Australia, Missus Stewart was a

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<v Speaker 3>speech writer to Alan Joyce at Quantas, so I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>sure how good an endurance and was then a speech

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<v Speaker 3>right to the vice Chancellor of University of New South Wales. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't blame her for taking to three hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 3>dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 5>I understand she's not Bill Shorton's speech right, sure, but

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 5>she is a woman. She is not Bill short and

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<v Speaker 5>speech right. She's not employed, she.

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<v Speaker 3>Is not in his she's not employed in his office.

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:40.760
<v Speaker 3>But part of her job description is to write speeches

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<v Speaker 3>for Bill Shorten.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, but he clearly had no idea who she was,

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<v Speaker 5>or why she'd been hired, or that she'd been hired,

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<v Speaker 5>or how much you'd been hired for. So obviously, when

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<v Speaker 5>you are a minister, you have departmental the aison officers,

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<v Speaker 5>so you have people in your office who either are

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<v Speaker 5>from the department to give you advice what they know

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<v Speaker 5>based on being a public service, so they're non political, right,

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<v Speaker 5>And you have people who, of course these services you

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<v Speaker 5>can call upon if you want them, but they are

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<v Speaker 5>not your staff. So he did not hire this speech writer,

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<v Speaker 5>and indeed, if you had to hired a speech wrider

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<v Speaker 5>would have been made. Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I think there is one question on many people's

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 3>lifts and art, that is who leaked this story. Therein

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:20.359
<v Speaker 3>might lie some interesting bits and pieces. After the break

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 3>we'll get into the papers. We'll talk about the ingenious

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:26.440
<v Speaker 3>idea from the federal government to get people into the military.

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<v Speaker 2>They just won't be Australian that. After the break.

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<v Speaker 3>Radio, let's get into the papers, starting with the Courier

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<v Speaker 3>Mail tomorrow, where they say exclusive ADF's plans to fix

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<v Speaker 3>recruitment crisis. An army of foreigners, foreign citizens, including New

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Zealanders presumably ones that Andrew Charles has had no connection to,

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 3>and permanent residents from the UK, US, Canada and Pacific

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<v Speaker 3>Island nations will be able to join the Australian Defense

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<v Speaker 3>Force in a move to tackle the nation's military recruitment crisis.

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<v Speaker 3>They've got to do something, I suppose to try and

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<v Speaker 3>get people involved. But as we were talking about last night,

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<v Speaker 3>I think part of the problem is that people don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to defend their country because they've been told that

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<v Speaker 3>there isn't much here worth defending, so why would you

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<v Speaker 3>sign up in the first place. The population is far

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<v Speaker 3>greater than it used to be, and yet we struggle

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<v Speaker 3>to get enough people to fill spots in the military.

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<v Speaker 1>And to their six point plan that they rolled out

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<v Speaker 1>last year.

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<v Speaker 2>We come on, we'bout six point plan.

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<v Speaker 5>It's popular.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>As of January first, the ADF is seven percent, well

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<v Speaker 4>over four three hundred people short of their authorized strength,

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:46.760
<v Speaker 4>which is something like six just over sixty five thousand.

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<v Speaker 4>So clearly nothing's worked. This has been snowballing for years now,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think the Career mail, I mean, good on

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 4>them for the concerning headline, but when you read those

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<v Speaker 4>countries New Zealand, UK, US, Canada, Spacific islander nations, you're like,

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<v Speaker 4>here around, mates, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 5>They're the people we'd be relying on to defend us anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>like we're not going to be fighting China on our own.

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<v Speaker 5>Spoiler alert. Also, this is exactly what This is exactly

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<v Speaker 5>what made the Roman Empire last for one thousand years

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:21.200
<v Speaker 5>or two thousand years, depending on how you count it. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 5>I like to go right up into the fall of

0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 5>Constantinople in the late obviously, but this is perfect. I

0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:30.759
<v Speaker 5>think this is very, very sensible. And yes, we do

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:32.920
<v Speaker 5>have more people these days than we used to, but

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<v Speaker 5>they're older. The reason why we have to rely on

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<v Speaker 5>immigrants coming here and doing jobs for us, as well

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:42.239
<v Speaker 5>as joining our army is because we are not having

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<v Speaker 5>enough babies. So unless you're getting out there and having

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<v Speaker 5>one one for that and one for the country, you

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<v Speaker 5>have no right to complain about immigration or foreigners.

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<v Speaker 1>I can get behind, that's right. Yeah, come on people.

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<v Speaker 5>Personally, I'm too pusched to push, so you can just

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<v Speaker 5>get a cut out. It's fine anyway. How you doing

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 5>that for another I've done that. I'm fine, that's right. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah you are you.

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<v Speaker 3>One of these you know, small number of men that's

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<v Speaker 3>actually had a child, Joe, because you said you didn't push,

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:11.319
<v Speaker 3>you had to cut out.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, that's well. Firstly, I find your assertion that men

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<v Speaker 5>can't have children to be offensive. Stop stopped me.

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:23.080
<v Speaker 3>So tonight we've misjindered someone and now I have.

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<v Speaker 2>Offended men who have babe.

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<v Speaker 5>I am a very proud Okay, that's going to go.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not the moving number of days since Charles last

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<v Speaker 5>Blunder reads the front page of the Australian Spoiler Alert.

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<v Speaker 5>Zero Immigration minnes Andrew Giles has admitted he falsely claimed

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<v Speaker 5>criminals released from detention were being monitored by drones because

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<v Speaker 5>it simply did not make any bloody sense whatsoever, even

0:40:57.080 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 5>as he was saying, sorry, that's not what the story says.

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<v Speaker 5>But how again, like what I don't honestly, I'm trying

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<v Speaker 5>to feel sorry for Andrew Giles at this point, so

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<v Speaker 5>we'll move on from that. I just don't understand, Like

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:12.359
<v Speaker 5>I don't feel so, is it like The Avengers where

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<v Speaker 5>Falcon has a little buzzy drone just following people around

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 5>or just hanging outside? What? How did he picture it

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:20.000
<v Speaker 5>in his head?

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<v Speaker 4>It was Senator James Patterson's tweet today being like, here's

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:29.279
<v Speaker 4>Giles's drone whatever it is, drone program in action, and

0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 4>there's just some dude dancing around with this bird looking

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<v Speaker 4>drone hovering around his kneecaps.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is now just a running joke.

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<v Speaker 4>But you're quite right, why would you even bother making

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<v Speaker 4>up such a massive being like.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, everyone's safe. They're being monitored by drone.

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<v Speaker 5>Saying the department this is advice he got from his

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<v Speaker 5>career apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he's blaming.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's pretend that you know you're Andrew Giles, you're the department.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh well, you know, we're using drones to monitor detanism.

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<v Speaker 5>How like, how how does that work, like what like,

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 5>wouldn't you It's kind of like saying I've invented a

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.320
<v Speaker 5>cold fusion reactor using a pizza.

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<v Speaker 2>But it just proves what it proves what a dunderplunker.

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<v Speaker 5>This part from that, everything in the Albaneze government is

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<v Speaker 5>going really really well.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, great.

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:28.439
<v Speaker 3>He is such a dunce that he was supposedly advised

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<v Speaker 3>by the department that they were using drones to monitor

0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:34.279
<v Speaker 3>these people, and then he's like, jeez, I really need

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 3>an easy win here. I'm going to go into this

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 3>interview with Kieran Gilbert and say that we're using these

0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 3>drones even though I've been given no further information on

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 3>what they are, or how they work or how they

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:48.200
<v Speaker 3>do their job because they don't exist. But it's going

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:50.120
<v Speaker 3>to look good on Telly when I go on and

0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:51.200
<v Speaker 3>tell Kira and that.

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:53.399
<v Speaker 2>Also now he's here apologizing it made.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the same department who's blaming for giving him all

0:42:56.640 --> 0:43:00.760
<v Speaker 5>the other misleading advice that he double check.

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:04.239
<v Speaker 3>That one he claimed that he didn't get the advice,

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:05.759
<v Speaker 3>and now he says.

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<v Speaker 5>That it's say, how are we monitoring the detainees? You know,

0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:13.279
<v Speaker 5>it was the Director General from the Department. Oh, we're

0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:19.439
<v Speaker 5>using iron Man. We've got the flying Purple people letter

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 5>comes in and chases them around the country. Anyway. Second, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I liked it in the eyes my cat boss's career

0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 5>quote online. No, he hasn't got a website. It's on

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 5>the line. Lawyers for Northern Territories Anti Corruption sheet. Oh god,

0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 5>I love the territory. Michael Riches offered his wife twenty

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 5>thousand dollars to stop her complaint against him being decided

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 5>in a court hearing, saying the matter would end the

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<v Speaker 5>senior Laura for Enforcements officials career if it were to

0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:52.120
<v Speaker 5>come in front of a judge. Well, you got that right.

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:54.400
<v Speaker 2>How dumb?

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't under how dumb can you get? And like,

0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 3>not only are you just you know, some bloke doing it.

0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 2>You've got your lawyers.

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:08.840
<v Speaker 3>You are the anti corruption bloke and your lawyers have gone.

0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:13.400
<v Speaker 5>Off to the white But this is honey, trust me,

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 5>I'm an anti corruption officer. I know how bad this

0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 5>is going to look.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to get me too good to the bright name

0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:22.000
<v Speaker 1>of the herald Son.

0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:27.280
<v Speaker 4>Now new SRL tax via the Suburban rail loop tax

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<v Speaker 4>should be on the cards as the Allen government scrambles

0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:34.840
<v Speaker 4>to find ways to plug the mega projects multi billion

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:36.920
<v Speaker 4>dollar black hole.

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Because that's what Victoria needs right now.

0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 4>Another tax, that's what you guys need down there.

0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 5>I mean, seriously, isn't the multi billion dollar black hole

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:49.720
<v Speaker 5>just another name for Victoria.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so far they've just ruled out not doing it,

0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:58.440
<v Speaker 4>which means they're probably going to do it.

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<v Speaker 5>That's right. Well, but I still don't have trained to

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:01.040
<v Speaker 5>the airport.

0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:02.279
<v Speaker 2>No, they don't have it.

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:05.720
<v Speaker 3>They don't have anything because of course some round and round,

0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:08.200
<v Speaker 3>but not to anywhere. The last time that there was

0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:12.200
<v Speaker 3>actually a big infrastructure road infrastructure project in the pipeline,

0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:15.239
<v Speaker 3>the East Westlink, mister Andrews got rid of it and

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 3>then invented other ones that are far more expensive and you've.

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<v Speaker 2>Got to pay for it. The States broke. Let's go

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 2>to the advertisers tomorrow.

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:25.080
<v Speaker 3>Three year old Kindy's seven hundred and fifteen million dollar costs.

0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:27.839
<v Speaker 3>The state budget will include seven hundred and fifteen million

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<v Speaker 3>dollars over five years to deliver preschool for three year

0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 3>olds in South Australia. Kindy for Tops will be delivered

0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:36.759
<v Speaker 3>to long day care providers from twenty twenty six and

0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:40.160
<v Speaker 3>ow the kindergarteners will phase in between twenty twenty six

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 3>and twenty twenty third twenty thirty two, because of course

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:48.320
<v Speaker 3>everyone has to be off being good little worker. But

0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 3>he's earning their attacks for the governments.

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:54.320
<v Speaker 5>How dare you be at hope brilliant? The universal preschool

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:56.520
<v Speaker 5>is the most brilliant I know, Dominic Parita.

0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:00.920
<v Speaker 4>Yes, this is what Albany he has always SAIDNY one

0:46:01.000 --> 0:46:03.719
<v Speaker 4>of universal kindy, universal preschool.

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:05.280
<v Speaker 1>How about you.

0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:09.560
<v Speaker 4>Support mothers to stay at home with their own children,

0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:13.480
<v Speaker 4>free money to give those kids over to you so

0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:16.600
<v Speaker 4>that the state can raise them while these women go

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:19.360
<v Speaker 4>back to work, which is not where the vast majority

0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:20.239
<v Speaker 4>of them one to be.

0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:23.839
<v Speaker 1>They want to raise their own increase paral.

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<v Speaker 5>They just interest the length of time and the rate.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye.

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:32.480
<v Speaker 4>But because you've popped out a kid, I'm talking about

0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:36.120
<v Speaker 4>staying at home and raising your own children instead of

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:39.280
<v Speaker 4>handing your little three year olds over.

0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:42.960
<v Speaker 1>To the state to raise. Because the government just wants

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:44.160
<v Speaker 1>your tax money.

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:47.239
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, and as I've seen, as I've said many times,

0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:48.759
<v Speaker 3>they should just give the money that they give to

0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:51.680
<v Speaker 3>childcare subsidy to people cash in hand families if they

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:53.120
<v Speaker 3>want to look after the kids at home, but they

0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:55.120
<v Speaker 3>don't do that because they don't make tax if you're

0:46:55.160 --> 0:46:55.600
<v Speaker 3>not at work.

0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:57.479
<v Speaker 2>Coming up after the break, we are going.

0:46:57.440 --> 0:47:00.480
<v Speaker 3>To show you one of the most cringe worthy ofpisodes

0:47:00.480 --> 0:47:01.759
<v Speaker 3>from a politician ever.

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it can be beat that's coming out now.

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<v Speaker 3>Liz tell us about a senator in Canada who wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to get down.

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<v Speaker 2>With the youths.

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<v Speaker 4>So she's presenting a bill to reduce the voting age

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<v Speaker 4>to sixteen. Sounds a bit like the Greens. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 4>trendy amongst people with barely a firing neuron between them.

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<v Speaker 4>So she thought, well, while I'm presenting this, I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to try and appeal to those young people.

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<v Speaker 8>Here she goes, honorable fam reading the vote until eighteen

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<v Speaker 8>is a big yikes and mad sugar. But as to

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<v Speaker 8>a one hits different, today's youth slays and stays busting.

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<v Speaker 8>That's why we got to give them.

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<v Speaker 2>A chance to clap back.

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<v Speaker 8>If not, how will we be able to see that

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<v Speaker 8>they eat that up? No cap, This bill slaps and

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<v Speaker 8>is electoral glow up. I am its number one stand

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<v Speaker 8>for real MESSI thank you, nyaw with you.

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<v Speaker 4>The harder they try to be cute, the more vomitous

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<v Speaker 4>it is. Also, who's watching that and being like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>now I'm going to vote for it. Only the members

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<v Speaker 4>in parliament get a vote for crying out loud like.

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<v Speaker 5>That was meant to be a speech in favor of Laura.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so.

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<v Speaker 5>It looked like she was suffering from some kind of

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<v Speaker 5>medical episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think she can do.

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<v Speaker 4>You with your opposition being like the state of our

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen year olds.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how they talk. It's barely legible, and these

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<v Speaker 1>guys should be allowed to vote.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she was having an aneurysm at the time. Politicians,

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<v Speaker 3>please just don't try to be cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It never ever works.

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<v Speaker 3>Before we go, there's a mob is set up in

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<v Speaker 3>Manly in Sydney. They're calling themselves the Pea Patrol because apparently,

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<v Speaker 3>particularly during summer, a bunch of drunken lauts like to

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<v Speaker 3>go down to es Esplanade Park at Manly Cove and

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<v Speaker 3>get on the beers, as Daniel Andrews once said, and

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<v Speaker 3>they then go and urinate all over everyone's fences. And

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<v Speaker 3>of course they've been complaining about this for a while,

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<v Speaker 3>no one's been able to do anything about it. The

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<v Speaker 3>area is colloquially known as the office in the local area,

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<v Speaker 3>so the locals are now going around filming and taking

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<v Speaker 3>photographs of people pissing on their fences in an effort

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<v Speaker 3>to get rid of them.

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<v Speaker 5>Although I was interested in the coverage of this cub

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<v Speaker 5>because it says the revelers urinately outside homes are causing

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<v Speaker 5>a quote world of pain. If that's happening, you really

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<v Speaker 5>should consult.

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<v Speaker 3>A do well. At the very least they're pissed off anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it from us to night up next to the

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<v Speaker 3>rid of Paddy Show.