Speaker 1: Welcome the mentor Mark Boris, Joey, Mark, Marty. I'm not
Speaker 1: even going to say your second and second names Peperoni,
Speaker 1: may Fly, that's it. But your fucking brothers.
Speaker 2: We are real life brothers, real life brothers. Like who's
Speaker 2: the oldest, I'm two years old the oldest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you change it? So what do you you
Speaker 1: lead to me? Real names?
Speaker 2: Well, there are legal names now now, but we did
Speaker 2: have the same family last name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're Joey and.
Speaker 2: Joseph and Martin in real life, real life.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, it's not that.
Speaker 3: We just abbreviated. Yeah, we just we just changed the
Speaker 3: last the last names to Pepperoni and McFly.
Speaker 2: Pizza superheroes or villains, however we're going to be.
Speaker 1: And and of course you're you're the two owners, were
Speaker 1: the founders of Pizza Brothers. And I follow Winsca and
Speaker 1: my guys or my team following Instagram, and I know
Speaker 1: your mates of Jeff. Jeff rang me up when he
Speaker 1: had what did you do something with you guys? Jeff?
Speaker 1: I'm talking about did he have a function with you
Speaker 1: guys or something? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeff, I started cooking pizzas for Jeff back in
Speaker 2: twenty twelve. Really, yeah, yeah, back when I was on
Speaker 2: my apprenticeship sixteen years old, he didn't know me. I
Speaker 2: was just the apprentice in the pizzeriah which one Haberfield
Speaker 2: or something? Oh yeah, like Art Norton Street. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: whenever he'd come in with the family, we know Jeff's
Speaker 2: table was here. We prepared that my buffalo cheese, put
Speaker 2: it to the side, get the nice.
Speaker 3: To canter for the wine. How old were you? Only
Speaker 3: like seventeen sixteen my sixteen birth sixteen.
Speaker 1: He likes to be treated pretty special.
Speaker 2: Only he likes to find like the Italian experience prog.
Speaker 2: The Buffalo pizza Chrispy he had. We knew the way
Speaker 2: that him and Susie liked it.
Speaker 1: Susan and he'd probably bring his own wine in he did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it'd be expensive.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So were you working Were you working there?
Speaker 3: No? No, I was a bit younger at the time.
Speaker 3: I was still at school. Yeah. Joey dropped out of
Speaker 3: school in the year ten and he was only fifteen sixteen. Yea.
Speaker 3: And yeah he started like a pizza apprenticeship in like
Speaker 3: I was still at school. Yeah, I started the pizza
Speaker 3: the pizza game bit after Yeah.
Speaker 1: So but have you are you of Italian heritage.
Speaker 3: Maltese malt same as Jeff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Maldis are very mold Is very close to Italy
Speaker 1: and a big influence on Malta is the food. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like Italian food. Yeah, it's like largely like you
Speaker 1: get spaghetti, ble and age, you get pasta and pizza
Speaker 1: and Mediterranean. Yeah, but it's a very it's not like
Speaker 1: Greek or French. It's more more Italian.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so is that actually an influence on your life?
Speaker 1: Like not much?
Speaker 3: Not really Like Maese, not really. I mean, like Nana
Speaker 3: was full Maltese, but she lived up in the Gold
Speaker 3: Coast when we grew up, so we didn't see her
Speaker 3: that much. Like I saw her like maybe once every
Speaker 3: couple of years or something, so we didn't actually grow
Speaker 3: up with the full Maltese heritage. And you want to talk.
Speaker 1: About really not much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was I think it was rough.
Speaker 1: How do you guys feel about your heritage? Is it
Speaker 1: a thing or not? Really?
Speaker 3: I mean, like we've I've always I've always liked the
Speaker 3: fact that there's you know, multie blood. Yeah, a bit
Speaker 3: of like yeah, a bit of a bit of yeah,
Speaker 3: a bit a bit of yeah, a bit of culture
Speaker 3: then and it was nice like hearing like some some
Speaker 3: some war stories of from Nana. Yeah, but yeah, I
Speaker 3: wouldn't say it's significantly impacted our lives, like the Maltese heritage.
Speaker 3: But of food, food, not really like we did like
Speaker 3: she sometimes did, like make make some macaronials yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: with the with like the corn beef. Yeah, like the
Speaker 3: old school out of the tin. Yeah yeah, like real
Speaker 3: old school Maltese stuff. But yeah, nah, have.
Speaker 1: You guys been on your best behavior? We've been on
Speaker 1: your good behavior because when I see your ship on
Speaker 1: your no on Instagram, it's like it's mental.
Speaker 3: Yeah, full on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah it's good. I love it about plenty of energy,
Speaker 1: Like it's do you feel like you're being on your
Speaker 1: good behavior? I feel like you.
Speaker 2: Are right here right now, maybe maybe for the first
Speaker 2: five started.
Speaker 3: I haven't told you the.
Speaker 1: Story, he yelled off anytime me, like it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: to me, Like, so tell me tell me the story, Joey, Like,
Speaker 1: why why did you leave school year ten?
Speaker 2: I was a bit of a naughty, naughty teenager. I
Speaker 2: think we both were a little bit in high school.
Speaker 1: What does that mean though? Like naughty, naughty, like you know,
Speaker 1: we're robin cars.
Speaker 2: Or yeah yeah, not attending school, robbing cars, smoking weed,
Speaker 2: causing trouble.
Speaker 3: Just not not that bad.
Speaker 1: It's pretty pretty normal kill anyone, just normal teenage, not
Speaker 1: like the Spanion like.
Speaker 3: We have to Tim Pizza yesterday.
Speaker 1: He's been on. He's cool, he's not on mentors on
Speaker 1: straight up. But he's a good guy. Like it's just amazing.
Speaker 1: When he came here, he stood at the front, he
Speaker 1: got mobbed, like sort of morning mid morning, young guys walking.
Speaker 3: Past fuck everywhere it goes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do photograph like you know, it's because we
Speaker 1: used to take a photograph after the podcast out there
Speaker 1: on the street just under the sign the Mental And
Speaker 1: I didn't realize the guy was so popular, like like
Speaker 1: SuperStar's superstar. Yeah, you guys are sort of getting.
Speaker 3: Up there, like he put this like the culture really
Speaker 3: on the map big time.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: He also he also just shifted heaps of things in
Speaker 3: the country. Trendsetter.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Are you guys thinking or
Speaker 1: trying to do something like like make a change or
Speaker 1: try to establish something apart from your business. I'll getting
Speaker 1: we'll talk about this is apart from.
Speaker 3: That, yeah, maybe if we can, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Culturally for your age group, let's say.
Speaker 3: So we'd like to lead by example.
Speaker 1: Think yeah, so what would that be then, Like, what
Speaker 1: are the sort what's your sweet spot of things that
Speaker 1: you know maybe or your wish list of things that
Speaker 1: you would like to see that you would like other
Speaker 1: people who follow you, who you or it's called your
Speaker 1: audience or your fans sort of thing, or people who
Speaker 1: may admire you. What are the sort of things you
Speaker 1: want to leave them with.
Speaker 3: I think, I think just like us just doing what,
Speaker 3: like what we believe in and not not feeling like, oh,
Speaker 3: we can't, we can't do something because it might affect
Speaker 3: our business, it might affect our sales and stuff like,
Speaker 3: just doing what we strongly believe in. And we've always
Speaker 3: gone by that from from day one and so far.
Speaker 3: You know, nothing's backlashed at us, like in a negative way,
Speaker 3: and you know, it feels good to just do stuff
Speaker 3: that make content, create content that you do believe in
Speaker 3: and like, you know, whether whether it is a bit
Speaker 3: silly or it is a bit full on for some people,
Speaker 3: a bit controversial social media anyway, good for social media sometimes,
Speaker 3: like even things that are controversial in make people question
Speaker 3: their own beliefs.
Speaker 1: Or give me some examples, like because that sounds nearly
Speaker 1: sounds I don't I know, I'm sure you don't have politicians,
Speaker 1: but nearly sounds a bit late trying to influence policy
Speaker 1: or at least put it out there for discussion.
Speaker 2: Our parents are political activists, and we grew around the
Speaker 2: front of Villawood detentions that are throwing rocks at police
Speaker 2: and yeah, yeah, yeah, not not our parents, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we used to have got all the protests and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. So we were obviously our parents instilled watch
Speaker 2: the word empathy I think in us for other people
Speaker 2: and accepting other people that are different to what you are,
Speaker 2: and I think that probably rubbed off on us.
Speaker 3: Maybe also just growing up in Newtown like early two thousands,
Speaker 3: Like Newtown was a bit of punk scene, different back then,
Speaker 3: and you know that would have had a bit of
Speaker 3: effect on the way we grew up as well.
Speaker 1: I reckon, yeah, is it a bit of a punk scene,
Speaker 1: is it?
Speaker 3: And it was like metal punk, Girastafarrians, whatever, parties, a
Speaker 3: lot of drugs, a lot of you know, just like yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, basically anywhere though early two thousands was a
Speaker 3: bit like that. It was a Bourban culture or whatever.
Speaker 1: And do you feel as though that influenced you?
Speaker 3: I think so definitely. Yeah, Well that's what sent Joey
Speaker 3: off the rails a bit, which which got him actually
Speaker 3: into a pizzeria like had he mean.
Speaker 2: Well, there was a youth worker at the time that's
Speaker 2: discontinued now because I think he'd lost his government funding
Speaker 2: or whatever. But he would go around to all the
Speaker 2: schools and any troubled kids or kids that weren't attending.
Speaker 2: There was a list of kids at every school that
Speaker 2: he'd like you could the principle would say, you got
Speaker 2: to go and talk to these kids or whatnot. And
Speaker 2: so he tried to help kids find jobs and employment
Speaker 2: when they dropped out a year nine or ten. And
Speaker 2: he ended up putting me in a pizzeria in like
Speaker 2: Not on Norton Street. That's where I first met Jeff.
Speaker 1: So have you ever reached out to this dude?
Speaker 2: But I lost his contact. I don't know either. I
Speaker 2: can't even remember what his name was.
Speaker 3: He just had long hair. We used to smoke joints
Speaker 3: and siggis with him at the school. Was he was
Speaker 3: he like a youth worker.
Speaker 2: It was a youth worker, like a proper social yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he obviously had he had a bit of a
Speaker 2: trouble background as a kid himself, so he could relate
Speaker 2: and he'd light us a cigarette or whatever and be like,
Speaker 2: he just wanted us to us to open up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, relate to you, get you, get to you
Speaker 1: on your level.
Speaker 3: Exactly, which he was good at.
Speaker 1: Yeah. When you say that is year ten, so you're
Speaker 1: like fifteen or something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fifteen and a half fifteen.
Speaker 1: When you left school and you got placed in this
Speaker 1: job working at the piece of joining Leichhart, what did
Speaker 1: you think to yourself?
Speaker 2: I thought I'd do a week to get an ounce
Speaker 2: of weed, and then that was it.
Speaker 3: That was my plan.
Speaker 1: Go by one week, go buy something.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was three hundred dollars for the week for like
Speaker 2: forty hours of work.
Speaker 3: So that was the plan. Do one week, and then.
Speaker 1: We're living at home, living at home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then my parents had said to me, if
Speaker 2: you lose this job, you're out on the street. But
Speaker 2: they were bluffing. I think they weren't actually going to
Speaker 2: do that, but I took that pretty seriously.
Speaker 3: And then I got.
Speaker 2: Fired that first week, You're fired, got fired. So I
Speaker 2: had to go back and talk to the owners. And
Speaker 2: my Italian mayestro was saying, I'm not going to teach
Speaker 2: this kid. Give me someone that can work the pizza
Speaker 2: bloke the pizza my Massimo master maestra.
Speaker 1: That he's the master, master teacher, whatever you call it,
Speaker 1: the master of the of the of the craft at
Speaker 1: the particular Italian restaurant. Correct, he said, you're not going
Speaker 1: to employ anymore.
Speaker 2: He just said to the owners, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: deal with this kid.
Speaker 1: What were you doing?
Speaker 3: I dropped.
Speaker 2: I dropped his calzoni out of the oven. I really
Speaker 2: wanted to pick it up and put it on the plate,
Speaker 2: and he said, if you drop it. He loved his calzonies,
Speaker 2: he quipped the edges, He made it perfectly, and I said,
Speaker 2: I promise I won't drop it. Was my second day
Speaker 2: and I picked it up and got the wobbles and
Speaker 2: dropped it. Then he just slapped me over the back
Speaker 2: of the head and sent me out, gone home crying.
Speaker 1: So you weren't really doing it bad, no, just incompetent.
Speaker 2: The second day, he knew the amount of training it
Speaker 2: takes to put into someone, and he's just like, we're
Speaker 2: busy enough, give me someone that is already somewhat trained.
Speaker 1: So you lost the job. So I might just go
Speaker 1: back over to you. What did you do you think
Speaker 1: you were still at school? Were you two years difference three?
Speaker 1: What do you think about your brother now working at
Speaker 1: a peace joint at school?
Speaker 3: I mean that period of time, like when I was
Speaker 3: still a teenager at school and like twelve or something
Speaker 3: like that, I was like thirteen something, we actually were.
Speaker 3: That was a period of time where we weren't that
Speaker 3: close and we didn't even really talk that much.
Speaker 1: Because you have different sets of mates and that age.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, I knew that like Joe went
Speaker 3: off the rails a bit with with drugs and stuff,
Speaker 3: and it kind of separated us for a bit for
Speaker 3: like three or four years. Until early twenties, we kind
Speaker 3: of like bonded back together. But at that time, like
Speaker 3: when he was when when he went was working at
Speaker 3: a like a pizza ea, I just I thought I
Speaker 3: thought it was actually a little bit funny, Like I
Speaker 3: thought like.
Speaker 2: Everyone did because the pizza boy was that everyone just
Speaker 2: laughing at me for years.
Speaker 3: But then the only people that made pizzas were like
Speaker 3: four on Italians or Ozzie Italians, like there wasn't really
Speaker 3: Now there's nationalities everywhere making pizza. It's cool now. Then
Speaker 3: it was like everyone makes pizzas.
Speaker 1: You kind of like I can make a pizza.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you kind of like had like it was mainly
Speaker 3: only Italians Italian heritage making pizza, so it was quite fun.
Speaker 3: I found it quite like a little bit funny. I
Speaker 3: actually used to like laugh a him a little bit
Speaker 3: because he was pizza maker all the time. I didn't
Speaker 3: really bag him, but I still it was funny. Like
Speaker 3: he'd be riding his bicycle. He was always riding a
Speaker 3: bike like bicycle, riding his bicycle home with like loads
Speaker 3: of bread on the back, like it was ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It was a crack up.
Speaker 3: My friends are like your brothers cooked as literally.
Speaker 2: I distanced myself as well because I was self aware
Speaker 2: that I wasn't being the best influence and some of
Speaker 2: my mates they had little brothers, and I just at
Speaker 2: that time tried to distance myself a little bit because
Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't want him to copy when I
Speaker 2: was doing.
Speaker 1: But you knew what you're doing wasn't a great idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I knew.
Speaker 1: So you're sort of being protective.
Speaker 3: Yeah I wanted to. Yeah, but maybe he didn't.
Speaker 1: Did you realize that.
Speaker 3: I think maybe at the time.
Speaker 2: I wasn't that friendly, but I just actually felt a
Speaker 2: bit guilty, like I don't want to see him doing
Speaker 2: the wrong things. But he was off with his own mates,
Speaker 2: probably doing worse things than I was doing, smoking a
Speaker 2: bit of pot anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you when I got a little bit older, Yeah,
Speaker 3: a little bit. Yeah, but it was kind of kind
Speaker 3: of the opposite of drugs, Like I never I never
Speaker 3: was never interested in drugs because I think I saw
Speaker 3: Joey get into it.
Speaker 2: I was like a lot of younger brothers. They follow
Speaker 2: but a few younger brothers go, I don't want to
Speaker 2: I don't want to do what. Yeah, he was one
Speaker 2: of those few that he was like, I don't interested
Speaker 2: in a weed or drinking really, So.
Speaker 3: I'm grateful that actually he paved the way. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: caught the drugs. I didn't.
Speaker 1: So did ju leae school the same agent.
Speaker 3: No, I finished school year twelve. I went to year
Speaker 3: twelve in Glabe.
Speaker 1: So tell me, how did you get into doing what
Speaker 1: you're doing now?
Speaker 3: Well, I made you a chef jacket with your name
Speaker 3: on it. What are you doing?
Speaker 1: He always I was like, this is for you, or
Speaker 1: you made him?
Speaker 2: I made him in Thailand because we got to Thailand
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we go regularly. We speak time really, yeah, Cup,
Speaker 3: how are you serious fluent? Yeah? Cup? Yeah, we feel
Speaker 3: entire and yeah.
Speaker 2: So in Bangkok I had at the markets a special
Speaker 2: chef jacket stitched up for him that said Marty on it,
Speaker 2: and I brought it back home. That was a couple
Speaker 2: of years before he started making Wanted was all playing.
Speaker 2: I knew that he needed to come into the game
Speaker 2: for this for there to be longevity, because I could
Speaker 2: see what was happening in the pizza world, and I thought,
Speaker 2: what was happening nothing like in terms of it just
Speaker 2: advanded a dead end job. Really, that's what I thought.
Speaker 2: I thought up until thirty. If you're traveling, you're a backpacker.
Speaker 2: You make pizzas great, but once you hit thirty, you
Speaker 2: keep for twenty bucks an hour just flipping out Pepperoni's.
Speaker 3: Pretty physic physical, demanding job. It's like a trade. It
Speaker 3: is a trade. Yeah, in Italy. It's very working class job,
Speaker 3: being a pizziolo. So if your family has some money,
Speaker 3: you're not going to You don't want your kids to
Speaker 3: be a pizza working on a furnace, shopping fix days away.
Speaker 1: So you were using the pizza work you're doing to
Speaker 1: fund you to go on holidays to Thailand. Yes, basically, yeah, regularly.
Speaker 1: It's worth eight week slab.
Speaker 2: Exactly, yeah, exactly, every day, seven days a week weeks
Speaker 2: and then that's it quit go to Thailand.
Speaker 1: Did you cook pizzas in Thailand?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, just chilling with the family over there, having a
Speaker 2: good time, learning how.
Speaker 1: Your family, my partner's family, your partner's family, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: so you're doing you're hanging out.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I couldn't speak to mom and dad, so that was
Speaker 2: the initial I'm going to learn how to speak time.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, because I couldn't speak English. So we're
Speaker 2: sitting in a cafe just doing hand gestures.
Speaker 3: Joey was like basically like nearly fluent by the time
Speaker 3: he's twenty five. He was like, I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3: I was like, he full speaks like fluent.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, do you do you I speak?
Speaker 3: I'm really getting I speak pretty good now, like definitely
Speaker 3: not fluent, but enough to get buying conversations and everything.
Speaker 1: Did you spend time there too, in Thailand?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I've been there like eight times.
Speaker 1: But how did you learn to be speaking? Brother?
Speaker 3: Well? Originally, I so I moved in with my brother
Speaker 3: at the age of like twenty, and he was living
Speaker 3: with his partner, and I used to hear them talk
Speaker 3: and sometimes fight. A word here and there I'd pick
Speaker 3: up I'd pick up a word here and there until Yeah,
Speaker 3: I just really wanted to learn because I just like,
Speaker 3: if Joey can, Joey can be become fluent like I
Speaker 3: had too.
Speaker 1: Maltese descent, Aussie boys, cooking pizzas big and tie, from Newtown,
Speaker 1: from Newtown where the that's everything. So I can take
Speaker 1: me to the point where you decided to set up
Speaker 1: your own business.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So basically what happened was I invited Marty to
Speaker 2: come in and start learning how to make pizzas, training
Speaker 2: him how to make pizzas.
Speaker 3: He was it at your joinal I was the head
Speaker 3: pizza chef of the restaurant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Mardy was at the gym and he was
Speaker 2: really good at like at the gym, really enjoyed the
Speaker 2: personal training.
Speaker 3: And whatnot.
Speaker 2: But I had convinced him to come and start.
Speaker 1: Making pizzas when he got him in the jacket.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a couple of years after he put that.
Speaker 2: He had the jacket on. I had mine on too.
Speaker 2: We're in the pizzaia and he's learning how to make pizzas.
Speaker 2: And then I learned people can be can learn really
Speaker 2: fast in the pizzeria if you throw him in the
Speaker 2: deep end and just leave them. So once he got
Speaker 2: once he could start stretching bases. I booked a ticket
Speaker 2: to Japan, didn't even tell the.
Speaker 3: Boss, and I just left. So all he had was mary.
Speaker 3: He had to float the boat or had that. Yeah
Speaker 3: he knew. Yeah, I only had like three months of
Speaker 3: experience and he left me in like one of the
Speaker 3: busiest pizzas in Sydney, just three hundre pizzas a day.
Speaker 2: It was a spinning oven, a Marana Forny spinning oven,
Speaker 2: so you didn't have to physically turn the pizzas, but
Speaker 2: you still had to stretch them top of them.
Speaker 3: Put him in. Yeah, I got slammed in there like
Speaker 3: but it was but that that's what just made me
Speaker 3: become like It's like I fast forward instead of learning
Speaker 3: slowly for two years at a place, it's like in
Speaker 3: three months, I picked up like two years of experience
Speaker 3: in like three months.
Speaker 1: Single swim.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was in there seven days a week, like
Speaker 3: seventy to eighty hours a week, and then within three
Speaker 3: months I was just pumping all the pizzas out, just learn.
Speaker 1: When he come back to you, did him on the
Speaker 1: chin say thanks very much? Bang well.
Speaker 3: At the time, I was probably a little bit like
Speaker 3: pissed because there was there was some some rocky services
Speaker 3: there and like some bit of a nightmare. But later
Speaker 3: on I realized like that that's actually how I learned.
Speaker 3: I realized that.
Speaker 2: He became he became a machine super fast. And that
Speaker 2: was the idea because I thought, we don't have to.
Speaker 3: Show you.
Speaker 2: Thought this through, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just thought because
Speaker 2: this was a massive restaurant, three hundred seat on Pitt
Speaker 2: Street in the city, and I thought, you're gonna have
Speaker 2: to learn how to do it otherwise.
Speaker 1: Are you confident? Did he do it?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I was.
Speaker 1: You thought, Okay, I'm not just I'm not pushing him
Speaker 1: off the cliff. I know he's going to be okay.
Speaker 2: I knew he did have a few stressful days in
Speaker 2: there that some burnt pizzas or whatever, but that's part
Speaker 2: part of it. And it wasn't our restaurant, So I
Speaker 2: thought you burned the pizzas.
Speaker 1: Someone else frock. So I think I'm getting aked together
Speaker 1: the break because I want to gether the break and
Speaker 1: come straight back because I want to say, I want
Speaker 1: to ask you what was the thing inspired you to
Speaker 1: set up your own joint and what was the process
Speaker 1: like setting up setting up, not setting your own joint,
Speaker 1: set up your own business. You now got your own place,
Speaker 1: but like those days when because then you were roving
Speaker 1: making pizzas and vans and shit like that. So but
Speaker 1: I want to know, do you remember the period when
Speaker 1: you're saying I thought, now we can do this for ourselves.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, that would have been up in Brisbane,
Speaker 2: Like we went up to Brisbane to buy a house
Speaker 2: because we had some savings. We thought that was a
Speaker 2: smart thing to do in like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we.
Speaker 2: Marty ended up getting a job in a pizza truck
Speaker 2: and he sold one hundred and fifty pizzas and the
Speaker 2: boss wasn't there, and then he counted the money at
Speaker 2: the end of the night and he calls me up
Speaker 2: and he goes like, just made like three grand out
Speaker 2: of his pizza truck. And we just instantly were.
Speaker 1: Like, I can do that.
Speaker 3: We were just like, why don't we build a pizza truck.
Speaker 3: But we build the biggest one and biggest run in
Speaker 3: the country, double ovens, two wood fire ovens, one on
Speaker 3: each side, marble bench, full mobile, pizza era. Maybe we
Speaker 3: could do three four five grand a day. Who knows.
Speaker 2: So we just we thought it was going to be
Speaker 2: a walk in the park.
Speaker 3: Though. Yeah, I was twenty two, he was like twenty five.
Speaker 3: Like we were young, were very full of energy, very
Speaker 3: bit of mature.
Speaker 1: That's a big advantage. By the way, I'm just going
Speaker 1: to goether break' going to come straight back. I'm back
Speaker 1: from the break and I'm here with a mister Pepperoni
Speaker 1: missed McFly And that's Marty and Marty and Joey. They're
Speaker 1: actual brothers. They and pizza brothers, which is obviously pizza business.
Speaker 1: We've gone through the little story about how we got there.
Speaker 1: What we're now exploring is when Marty experience working in
Speaker 1: a pizza truck of all things and made quite a
Speaker 1: bit of money for somebody else. And God, I guess
Speaker 1: you could say, good inspired brother, Why the fuck can't
Speaker 1: we do this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we just knew that we both worked together
Speaker 3: so well, we never fight, like we're both happy to
Speaker 3: work eighty hours a week. We won't complain even if
Speaker 3: we're right next to each other, because we've done that
Speaker 3: already for other people, and we're just like, oh, we've
Speaker 3: got to do this for ourselves, Like why are we
Speaker 3: doing this for other people? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So how do you go and build? So but you
Speaker 1: went up to Busines buy.
Speaker 2: A house originally, Yeah, that was the plan.
Speaker 3: That was the plan.
Speaker 1: What do you do with the money when brought.
Speaker 2: The truck, Well, we that was all our savings, that
Speaker 2: was our life savings. So we had like two hundred
Speaker 2: and seventy grand combined a bit. That was a lot
Speaker 2: of hours. We were doing eighty hours a week in
Speaker 2: the pizzeria, so one hundred and sixty hours per seven days.
Speaker 3: We used to live off a fifty a week shared housing,
Speaker 3: just put our money together, like we're a couple, so
Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty.
Speaker 2: We weren't getting paid much per hour, only twenty twenty
Speaker 2: five bucks an hour, but one hundred and sixty hours
Speaker 2: a week. We were just just stacking it, sacking it
Speaker 2: and just be thought, yeah, let's go buy a house
Speaker 2: because we heard someone said Brisbane's going to boom.
Speaker 3: We didn't know, probably right, Yeah it was. It was
Speaker 3: actually back before everything boomed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then that job with the pizza truck, and
Speaker 2: then all the plans of buying a house, we just
Speaker 2: stopped and we thought, we're going to build the biggest
Speaker 2: pizza truck in the country, change out with the money spent,
Speaker 2: all the money, change our names.
Speaker 1: Legally you did it then at that.
Speaker 2: Point because we were going to be superheroes or pizza
Speaker 2: superheroes or pizza villain.
Speaker 3: That was our marketing idea at the time. We didn't
Speaker 3: know how people were going.
Speaker 1: To perceive it as a Murray Brothers.
Speaker 2: We just wanted to do something out of the box. Everyone,
Speaker 2: all the other Italians in the industry are being very serious,
Speaker 2: very passionate about their craft, no joking, and we thought
Speaker 2: we could we can be cheeky and put a bit
Speaker 2: of a different spin on this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, something different, but market differently exactly. Yeah, So, like,
Speaker 1: how extreme did you go.
Speaker 3: Pretty extreme, I mean, changing our names and moving to
Speaker 3: a city we didn't know anyone, and then basically we
Speaker 3: had no family up there. I mean, we did have
Speaker 3: some family in Gold Coast, but Grandma was gone by then.
Speaker 3: But we had all like aunties and uncles and stuff
Speaker 3: up in Gold Coast. Not super close with them, but
Speaker 3: they helped anyway. They were willing to help, and they
Speaker 3: we actually had to cancel our lease in Brisbane because
Speaker 3: we didn't have enough money to pay the lease anymore.
Speaker 1: So we were still living.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So because we started to embark on this journey
Speaker 2: of building the pizza truck that wasn't being built. It
Speaker 2: was just a chassy in South Brisbane. And this is
Speaker 2: kind of like where the war to Wall I guess
Speaker 2: this is where the whole story of like, yeah, this
Speaker 2: is the starting point, I guess because we were in
Speaker 2: South Brisbane in the industrial area and we've walked into
Speaker 2: our warehouse very excited, very cheeky, gold chains on, just
Speaker 2: come from Sydney. We thought we were Assie. We were
Speaker 2: told we wos up there, but.
Speaker 3: Different. Yeah, they all thought I was Lebanese up there.
Speaker 3: They're like, You're Lebanese for sure, not Lebanes.
Speaker 1: Make pizzas yea.
Speaker 3: So we basically like we're I worked for that the
Speaker 3: place that had the pizza truck, and basically we we
Speaker 3: both we both resigned from any work we were doing
Speaker 3: up in Brisbane, no job, and we've found a builder
Speaker 3: to build our pizza truck and with yeah, and brought
Speaker 3: that he no truck, the chasi, the truck whatever, dropped
Speaker 3: it off of the building warehouse. Basically we walked into
Speaker 3: this warehouse like very young, very immature, thought that we
Speaker 3: knew everything, which we didn't, and he goes, what's your
Speaker 3: budget or how much do you want to spend and
Speaker 3: we said, we've got two seventy to the builder and
Speaker 3: he's just gone obviously within fourteen Yeah for two seventy, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's exactly what he said. Yeah, so within a week,
Speaker 3: within a week or two, the majority of all our
Speaker 3: money we.
Speaker 2: Transerred him every him without without a contract, of course,
Speaker 2: a contract, because he was loved. He was a very
Speaker 2: nice guy, very charismatic, very you just felt at home
Speaker 2: with him. It was very trust very trustworthy.
Speaker 1: You're serious.
Speaker 3: He gave him from Newtown.
Speaker 2: We didn't we never didn't have been around much builders before,
Speaker 2: so We didn't know about the cliche of the dodgy builder,
Speaker 2: so what do you get or nothing. Initially he didn't
Speaker 2: build it. He wouldn't build it, didn't build anything.
Speaker 3: Didn't touch it for the six months, and that's when
Speaker 3: we kind of realized we're in a bit of a situation.
Speaker 3: And one day we just decided to google his name.
Speaker 2: We were living so we got out of our lease
Speaker 2: and we were living it out Arnie's house, just on
Speaker 2: the couch, sitting on the couch having a red wine.
Speaker 2: You know, I think the builder is delayed, but it's
Speaker 2: all good. Up, We're at Arnie's place and his name
Speaker 2: into Google and then boom, what happened? Crime Net, Supreme Court,
Speaker 2: Queen's then one of the biggest stories queen frauds to
Speaker 2: serious crime syndicate this that Yeah, so that was that
Speaker 2: was like big slap in the face, big wake up call.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were shadowed. We were just like, Wow, what
Speaker 3: do we do now?
Speaker 1: Harry my money back?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what happened? Spoke to a lawyer. Of course, he goes,
Speaker 3: what about the contract and whatnot? There isn't one of those.
Speaker 2: And then that he's basically like he's had twenty businesses
Speaker 2: before they've all liquidated. If you fight him in court,
Speaker 2: he's probably just going to liquidate before you can get
Speaker 2: anything back, so that it's gone to go back to Sydney.
Speaker 2: You lost your savings since you were sixteen, that's it.
Speaker 3: We were basically we were basically like fuck that, no
Speaker 3: way we're going back to Sydney empty hand.
Speaker 2: So that wasn't an option for us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what did you do?
Speaker 3: Well, just had to take matters into our own hands.
Speaker 1: Did you get some money back?
Speaker 3: We've got everything, We've got everything, but we've got everything.
Speaker 3: We just had to play hardball and and just we.
Speaker 2: Just let him know like we were the ones to
Speaker 2: play with.
Speaker 1: So you're confront him, did you go and go oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. We felt like it was like, I mean, maybe
Speaker 3: looking back on things, it.
Speaker 2: Was we wouldn't be sitting here if we if we'd left,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: We just felt we just felt like it was like
Speaker 3: a life and death situation. We thought like we had
Speaker 3: to get like I knew it was my brother's like
Speaker 3: over ten years of savings working in pizzeries. It was
Speaker 3: also all the savings that I had, and we're just
Speaker 3: like if we if somehow we don't get out of
Speaker 3: this like with with all our with our belongings, or
Speaker 3: like without with our money, or at least with the truck.
Speaker 2: Even if he didn't build the truck, if you just
Speaker 2: returned what we'd given to him, we just wanted to
Speaker 2: get our property.
Speaker 3: Back if we thought it would be the end of us.
Speaker 3: So that's why we really.
Speaker 1: Just like we're basically stole from me.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we be rocking up and his as soon
Speaker 2: as our cars pulling up in the car park, we
Speaker 2: see the back window of the warehouse going down, so
Speaker 2: he's just jumped out a window. And then we start
Speaker 2: hearing all these crazy stories about like a jet ski
Speaker 2: getaways on Brisbane River, that all these people had been
Speaker 2: looking for him, he was he could, they couldn't catch him.
Speaker 3: So he hit a point until we didn't really contact anyone.
Speaker 3: No family, we kept, our friends knew about it. And
Speaker 3: then I called up somebody that I knew back in
Speaker 3: Sydney that I used to work for, and just that
Speaker 3: was the second bombshell here. Yeah, he's a bit older
Speaker 3: than me, or quite significantly older about me, and like
Speaker 3: I kind of looked up it up to him as
Speaker 3: like kind of like a second dad. And he gave
Speaker 3: me like one of my first jobs. And I called
Speaker 3: him up and I explained him the situation we're in.
Speaker 3: He asked me, what's the guy's name. When I told
Speaker 3: him the guy's name, he just said, you've fucked up.
Speaker 3: You've just walked in and given money to probably the
Speaker 3: last person in Queensland that you'd want to. And we
Speaker 3: couldn't believe that he knew his name. Couldn't believe he knew.
Speaker 2: And when he goes, everyone knows him. People were a
Speaker 2: country know he's done over everyone. He's gotten away.
Speaker 3: He's got mills, and heople's facing ten years for something,
Speaker 3: but somehow he got off in a technicality or something.
Speaker 3: But he's known.
Speaker 2: And then we start going around to the markets and
Speaker 2: asking him. She didn't we didn't do due diligence, started
Speaker 2: asking these other people who were vending, and that was
Speaker 2: They were like, oh, you'd be careful if you build
Speaker 2: with him, if he builds anything.
Speaker 3: He's already robbed some and so he's robbed that person.
Speaker 2: All these stories started about all these other families and
Speaker 2: all these other people that he's that he's robbed. And
Speaker 2: so we're sitting at Arnie's place and now, and he goes, look,
Speaker 2: you guys can't stay here for much longer, and we
Speaker 2: don't have him money.
Speaker 3: We broke And then.
Speaker 1: But can you just give me a hint how you
Speaker 1: confront him? How do you get it?
Speaker 2: We basically just a bit of an altimatum.
Speaker 3: We basically just just looked at him and just said
Speaker 3: to him, it's you r us like kind of in
Speaker 3: that kind of way to be honest. And then and
Speaker 3: he was just probably at the time, maybe he just
Speaker 3: thought it wasn't even worth it. Maybe he had so
Speaker 3: many things going on at the time making heaps some money.
Speaker 2: It's just like we started sucking up his new customers,
Speaker 2: like he was trying to do the story with someone else,
Speaker 2: and we'd show up unannounced, unattended, uninvited, and we'd walk
Speaker 2: in and throw him off with his new customer by
Speaker 2: start by saying things or whatnot, verbling. Yeah, I was
Speaker 2: doing the verbaling stuff that I.
Speaker 3: Think basically we became trouble to him, and he was
Speaker 3: just like, you know what, build their truck, give it
Speaker 3: to them, get him out of here. Don't want to happen.
Speaker 1: He did, he build it, He did build it.
Speaker 3: He did it was actually a builder, Oh yeah, and
Speaker 3: he did a really good job. Threw an extra, extra TVs,
Speaker 3: extra everything.
Speaker 1: Probably saw them anyway.
Speaker 3: I think you just wanted us to be happy, and
Speaker 3: we were told the two things, this guy is going
Speaker 3: to be afraid of his cops and physical physical confrontation,
Speaker 3: like a confrontation.
Speaker 1: Bash yeah sort of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I didn't get it exactly.
Speaker 1: So so you ended up with the truck, yeah, probably
Speaker 1: caution sounds still like a lot of money.
Speaker 3: It ended up being around like two hundred grand.
Speaker 1: The whole truck, including the buying everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Chazzy and the whole building. The film happened,
Speaker 3: Italian ovens and everything.
Speaker 1: So he pissed him off. You got all this stuff.
Speaker 3: So we got it. And then we suddenly had this
Speaker 3: truck that we couldn't park anywhere. It was huge, built,
Speaker 3: it too big, eight meters long. We didn't plan where
Speaker 3: we were going to sell pizzas. We couldn't fit into
Speaker 3: any house for private catering. Caravan it was eight times Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like a caravan. So then we decided to go
Speaker 3: and live at a caravan park because we didn't have
Speaker 3: a choice.
Speaker 2: We didn't know where it didn't have anywhere else to park.
Speaker 3: We also didn't have any money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were broke, just with this big, sparkling, beautiful
Speaker 2: new pizza truck jeans Land.
Speaker 3: So we slept in it on numerous occasions, like in
Speaker 3: the body of it, like we opened up the body.
Speaker 3: He was on the upper level when I was on
Speaker 3: the lower levelp sleeping bags. We converted a storage box
Speaker 3: into a house for eighty dollars a week, so we
Speaker 3: put a bed in there. It didn't have obviously a
Speaker 3: shower or anything. It was just a National storage box
Speaker 3: and it had a mattress at the front, so if
Speaker 3: you opened it up, it just looked like storage and
Speaker 3: then you went inside there was a little house in there.
Speaker 3: So we'd parked the truck up against the front of
Speaker 3: the garage so we'd be hidden, and then we'd just
Speaker 3: flip a mattress in there and just sleep in there.
Speaker 3: In between there and a caravan parked to cost us
Speaker 3: what seventy bucks a week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we had the eighty dollar storage box and
Speaker 2: the seventy dollars caravan. It was the worst caravan in
Speaker 2: the park up in sunny coast water hot no bathroom
Speaker 2: and so we're going in between the storage box the
Speaker 2: caravan and showering at fitness first or showering at the
Speaker 2: truck stop vps, sleeping next to the truckers. Some truckers
Speaker 2: were coming down to Sydney and coming back and we're
Speaker 2: still there and they're like, boys, you're still here, and
Speaker 2: we're like, we live here. We lit at the service station,
Speaker 2: like a meat pie and a.
Speaker 3: Chocolate milk was dinner. And yeah, we were like homeless.
Speaker 1: When you start selling pizzas out of the pizza truck.
Speaker 1: We have a caravan park.
Speaker 2: We tried, why didn't we We tried to, but no
Speaker 2: one had any money in the caravan.
Speaker 3: Everyone in the caravan park. It was at least it
Speaker 3: was for whatever reason, it was a pretty like yeah
Speaker 3: there a Rundown Sunshine Coast.
Speaker 1: It wasn't one of those ones we're all the wealthy
Speaker 1: people now.
Speaker 3: It was one of the ones where it was one
Speaker 3: of the ones where we had to stay stay at
Speaker 3: like sleep with one eye open.
Speaker 1: So when did you start to actually make a dollar,
Speaker 1: start to sell your weares?
Speaker 3: I mean like we started to do festivals and small
Speaker 3: events in Queensland here and there. Like sometimes we would
Speaker 3: go like a week or two without work, and then
Speaker 3: sometimes we'd get like three days of work on a weekend.
Speaker 3: And then it was like a hit and miss.
Speaker 2: Like make a bit of money in one day like
Speaker 2: sun Corp. You two make ten grand or something and
Speaker 2: then run at a loss for ages.
Speaker 3: So it ended up evening out to basically we won't
Speaker 3: really making it.
Speaker 2: Can even go to the Sunday Farmer's market trying to
Speaker 2: sell pineapple pizzas we rained, couldn't sell anything.
Speaker 3: It ended up basically like we were there for nine
Speaker 3: months and we didn't really make any money, and then
Speaker 3: COVID happened and all the festivals and everything stopped, and
Speaker 3: we had this truck. We still had no money and
Speaker 3: then yeah, that's when we had to come back to Sydney.
Speaker 3: Had to sell my gold necklace for flour and cheese.
Speaker 1: Or do you do with the truck that you sold it?
Speaker 3: We've still got it got a sentimental value. We can't
Speaker 3: let Everyone told us like, oh you broke, like get
Speaker 3: rid of the truck tree even if you just get
Speaker 3: hard off for a hundred or get rid of it.
Speaker 3: But we never wanted to sell it, like we can't.
Speaker 1: We're going to say if you still got all buy
Speaker 1: it cool.
Speaker 3: It's got vines growing all over, it's a bit of band.
Speaker 3: We've still got it. It's still it's still in a
Speaker 3: brand new condition though like me, it's basically unne and
Speaker 3: he built it good, best built truck in it. There's
Speaker 3: no pizza truck in the country that looks like it.
Speaker 3: But that's why we held onto it, because we truly
Speaker 3: believed that like Pizza Bros. Wasn't over and for sure
Speaker 3: one day we might be able to do something. And
Speaker 3: even if we just sold it for one hundred grand,
Speaker 3: like what's that fifty grand each? What are we going
Speaker 3: to do with that? So we just knew, we just
Speaker 3: we just we just held onto it.
Speaker 1: So how do you how did you hold onto your dream?
Speaker 3: Then? Well, we came back to Sydney once COVID happened,
Speaker 3: all the festivals and everything was over. We came back
Speaker 3: to Sydney and we were in the lockdown back and living
Speaker 3: back in because we're originally we're living in Chinatown before
Speaker 3: we went to Brisbane. We went back to Chinatown. We're
Speaker 3: back in the same spot years later, yeah, two three
Speaker 3: years later, at zero no money in the bank, truck
Speaker 3: ye had a truck that we actually left up in Brisbane.
Speaker 3: Someone let us just park it up in Brisbane. We
Speaker 3: couldn't we couldn't afford to pay for storage or whatever
Speaker 3: of storage. We just kind of like left it in
Speaker 3: the yard in Brisbane for like three three four years.
Speaker 3: And we came back and we got we got a
Speaker 3: we got a lease in the city and we were
Speaker 3: just sitting and sitting on our couch like when we
Speaker 3: straightway we got back and thinking what are we going
Speaker 3: to do, Like we're at zero, and that's when we
Speaker 3: just both look at we always do, go back to
Speaker 3: eighty hours, go back sixty hours. It was. It was
Speaker 3: hard though, going back to work for other people when
Speaker 3: we thought that we had this idea and we thought
Speaker 3: that we had this plan that was going to just
Speaker 3: blow us up, and everyone told us we're crazy like Pepperoni, McFly,
Speaker 3: pizza truck villain, superheroes, it'll be mad. In that case,
Speaker 3: no one believed us could work in a way we were.
Speaker 3: But if you if you're not that crazy enough about
Speaker 3: passion and dream, it's never going to That's a.
Speaker 1: Good point, by the way, you're so passionate about the
Speaker 1: whole thing, so passionate and so enthusiastic about your dream.
Speaker 1: That's what kept your alife because because you were mad
Speaker 1: enough to believe in this stuff exactly. Yeah, because if
Speaker 1: it was a little more, a little less crazy, maybe
Speaker 1: a little bit more mainstream, you might not have stayed
Speaker 1: stuck with it. I'm out of it.
Speaker 3: Mainstream was definitely, Yeah, the opposite of what we were doing.
Speaker 3: We're always like being out Like everything we've always done
Speaker 3: is always a bit out of the box and a.
Speaker 1: B Yeah, you're both out there, aren't you.
Speaker 3: Yeah? Maybe?
Speaker 1: Or do you think you are? I mean you're not.
Speaker 1: You don't think I think, I think. I think for
Speaker 1: them now, you're probably not.
Speaker 3: I think for for for Ousi's or people like in
Speaker 3: this in this country, our age group, they would they
Speaker 3: would definitely think we're out there like the majority. But
Speaker 3: I mean inner city Sydney is a bit different like people.
Speaker 3: People do understand it. People are a bit different stuff.
Speaker 3: But I think on a on a broad picture like
Speaker 3: the whole country. Yeah, like they looked at us, these
Speaker 3: guys are cooking the book, their bonkers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a brand. Yeah, So how do you go
Speaker 1: and start working with somebody?
Speaker 2: Then what weg off on your own again, we're we're
Speaker 2: very hard on ourselves, beating ourselves up about the whole thing.
Speaker 3: But for us to have to start our business.
Speaker 2: Coming off that experience with the builder, it definitely we
Speaker 2: didn't start very like positive.
Speaker 3: We weren't like the way I know how to say it,
Speaker 3: we were It.
Speaker 2: Was the wrong way to kick off a business having
Speaker 2: to go through that ordeal first, especially as young people.
Speaker 3: But what we later learned is that whole experience of
Speaker 3: dealing with that builder and that whole period of time
Speaker 3: that actually, yeah, that actually if that now I look back,
Speaker 3: if that didn't happen, we wouldn't have succeeded this second
Speaker 3: time at Pizza Bros. And he taught us.
Speaker 2: He taught us a very important lesson that builder.
Speaker 1: What did he teach you?
Speaker 3: Heaps of stuff taught us heaps of stuff.
Speaker 1: Really, do your homework, do you due diligence, do your
Speaker 1: background checks? Yeah, you know who you're dealing with, Like
Speaker 1: maybe get a contract, have things in writing, know the price,
Speaker 1: like do comparative prices, like am I paying too much?
Speaker 1: Or am I getting a steal?
Speaker 3: Also just reading people as well, Like that's what he
Speaker 3: That's what he taught us as well, like just being
Speaker 3: able to read.
Speaker 1: People, maybe not trust people straight up exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you don't want to be one of those
Speaker 1: people doesn't trust everything, because that's equally bad that can
Speaker 1: work against you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but maybe you just don't automatically trust someone until
Speaker 1: maybe they perform a little bit exactly, see something that
Speaker 1: they're doing as positive. Yeah, just because it seemed nice exactly,
Speaker 1: you know, Like, so I want to get to important
Speaker 1: stuff now that you know what you're doing now to
Speaker 1: take me through it, like, you know, how are you
Speaker 1: guys operating? Like how's your customer base? You know, how's revenue?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: What are you doing for a social talk about you?
Speaker 1: I want you talk about social media too. So where
Speaker 1: are you at right now? I know it was hard
Speaker 1: rekicking off.
Speaker 3: But just to backtrack a little bit, like we're back
Speaker 3: in Sydney twenty twenty, COVID at zero and we started
Speaker 3: working eighty ninety hours a week to like different pizzerias though,
Speaker 3: like we both get a full time salary and then
Speaker 3: on our days off, both days off, like if we
Speaker 3: were doing five days a week for the salary, both
Speaker 3: days off go get other cash shifts somewhere or whatever
Speaker 3: and just do extra shifts and then we put all
Speaker 3: our money together again like we originally did before we
Speaker 3: went to Queensland.
Speaker 1: So there's something worth repeating.
Speaker 3: It worked. Yeah, we put out exactly because we knew.
Speaker 3: We knew that we could repeat what we did last time.
Speaker 3: We're not gonna Then the oven blew up and we
Speaker 3: were put on unpaid leave. We stood down, put on
Speaker 3: unpaid leave.
Speaker 1: Because the place we were employed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the places where we're placing Surrey Hill
Speaker 2: was the wood fire up and combusted and Marty had
Speaker 2: to put it out one phone to the fieries and
Speaker 2: extinguisher and then they were like, oh, look you know
Speaker 2: the pizzeri's burnt down. You you're an unpaid leave. You
Speaker 2: stood down. So we were back in Sydney again, now
Speaker 2: with maybe a little bit of savings from the hours
Speaker 2: we've been doing, but without a job.
Speaker 1: But you're both skilled, so they'd be then it was.
Speaker 2: It was the COVID lockdown at the time, and some job.
Speaker 2: A lot of restaurants weren't over pizza takeaway pizzerias were closed.
Speaker 3: Some we kind of always though I had a bit
Speaker 3: of a chip on our shoulder where it was like
Speaker 3: we still weren't doesn It didn't matter how much a
Speaker 3: salary we could get or how much we're getting paid
Speaker 3: per hour. We never satisfied. Wasn't pizza. We were just
Speaker 3: like happy, We're just like we knew we could be
Speaker 3: doing this like times ten times twenty, Like we knew
Speaker 3: that we could be doing this for ourselves. We knew
Speaker 3: it was possible.
Speaker 2: The owner of the place' even know our names.
Speaker 3: We were just the pizza guys. We were irrelevant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what happened?
Speaker 3: So we actually were offered opportunity at a brewery in
Speaker 3: Marrickville that they were interested in getting into the pizza game.
Speaker 2: They'd already kind of conquered the beer game and they
Speaker 2: wanted to get into pizzas. And so we had sent
Speaker 2: somehow through Instagram or something. We'd been chatting about pizzas,
Speaker 2: and we were offered to set up a pop up
Speaker 2: Wednesday Thursday nights because their food vendor would only run Friday,
Speaker 2: Saturday Sunday. So they thought, why don't we just give
Speaker 2: you The manager at the time said, why don't we
Speaker 2: give you Wednesday Thursday? Set your ovens up. We were
Speaker 2: sponsored by Gosney, which is a portable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been on the show, have they. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I use a Gosney at home.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 2: That was a Gosney dome. We were gifted two Gosney
Speaker 2: domes by Gosney. They said, do you Instagram reels promote Gosney.
Speaker 2: There's the ovens.
Speaker 3: They were worth like a couple grand each or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which was a really good of them to sponsor us.
Speaker 2: And yeah, we started cooking all these pizzas, and then
Speaker 2: they started getting popular. The Wednesday Thursdays they were pouring
Speaker 2: more beer at the brewery Wednesday Thursday, then the Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Speaker 2: So we're off at full time. A couple videos, Jeff,
Speaker 2: and it comes down. You start trying to blow the
Speaker 2: whole thing up.
Speaker 3: A couple videos on Instagram and someone else's TikTok, like
Speaker 3: when a bit viral hit like half a million views
Speaker 3: or whatever.
Speaker 2: You had the marriage boom aller On, which was a
Speaker 2: meat lover.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's his.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So when from like when from like a like
Speaker 3: a like just a normal trading brewery to line out
Speaker 3: the door out onto the street.
Speaker 2: I said, we've never had a line out the brewery
Speaker 2: like that like coming.
Speaker 3: Up the people traveling across Sydney pop up because it
Speaker 3: was niche, it was unique, like it wasn't there was
Speaker 3: no pizza pop up in Sydney.
Speaker 1: Would you call it?
Speaker 3: It was Pizza Bros. Cosney pop up, new menu every
Speaker 3: week and that. I still remember that first day of
Speaker 3: trading since Queensland, like it was a big deal for us,
Speaker 3: massive deal, Like I remember you had vegetable pants on.
Speaker 3: I had mushroom pants on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what we were We in chef pants vegetables and
Speaker 2: mushrooms and stuff and were a little bit drunk drinking
Speaker 2: beers as we were working there. It was a big
Speaker 2: deal for us to Pizza Bros.
Speaker 3: In Sydney.
Speaker 2: The first day trading is I think we've done Bathist
Speaker 2: before in the truck. We've done a few events.
Speaker 3: Down here and just trading for one day and just
Speaker 3: seeing that we just did revenue the first time in
Speaker 3: like four or five years since Queensland. Everything we went through,
Speaker 3: we were just like, that's that's what just sparked us again.
Speaker 3: And we're just like all one hundred and ten percent
Speaker 3: we've got to go with this, like like life and
Speaker 3: death situation again. Let's let's go. Let's go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then to me, now, where what do you
Speaker 1: do now? You're working seven days?
Speaker 3: We still seven days. We have a day off every
Speaker 3: year and there every couple of months.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what are you doing there? In terms of
Speaker 1: where where you were?
Speaker 3: So, yeah, we're at the brewery. And then we got
Speaker 3: contacted by Universal Hotels company here in Sydney, the Cospitis
Speaker 3: family and shout out to Universal Hotels.
Speaker 1: Your Greek Yeah, yeah, well it's Anthony, isn't it. Anthony Corspetus.
Speaker 1: His father's Jimmy Jim Jimmy is the Corspetus. Then the
Speaker 1: pub in the city, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Charentown, Yeah, because
Speaker 1: Jimmy's the they have a Greek restaurant. Actual, they have
Speaker 1: a great restaurant, Bort eighty twenty one ours. But his son,
Speaker 1: Anthony went to school my younger son.
Speaker 2: I think is there another brother Anthony?
Speaker 3: We know Stephen and Harris. Stephen Harris and Jim Jimmy
Speaker 3: is a dad Jim Yeah, I'm pretty sure I thought
Speaker 3: it was Anthony who's been out to my farm.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll get the name wrong. Maybe it's Stephen, maybe
Speaker 1: Stephen because they go to Greece a lot. They're going
Speaker 1: to a place at Earthen's. I've seen him there. I've
Speaker 1: seen him a kids, so maybe it's Stephen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jim.
Speaker 2: Jim came down to the brewery, pulled up in the
Speaker 2: bentley and tried the pizza and was like, fucking this
Speaker 2: is mad pizza. Yeah, And we saw our pop up
Speaker 2: was getting closed down. We could see that there wasn't
Speaker 2: much longevity here in Marrickville, that we were going to
Speaker 2: be basically shut down before we knew it, so we
Speaker 2: wanted to get out of there as soon.
Speaker 3: As we could. The owners of the brewery kind of
Speaker 3: gave us an ultimatum. Either you shut up shop and
Speaker 3: packed down Pizza Bros. Or stay here but switches over
Speaker 3: to our name with your recipe to their name. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: but the same pizza, the same pizzas. Switches over, switch
Speaker 3: switches over to their name with our recipes, our pizzas
Speaker 3: forget it, whatnot. And then basically the day they sat
Speaker 3: us down, seven days prior, we got contacted by the
Speaker 3: hospitals where they if we want to asking us if
Speaker 3: we want to they relive the Imperial Hotel, Yeah, iconic
Speaker 3: hotel in Erskanville where we grew up, like we grew
Speaker 3: up in Newtown, Like we used to run around these
Speaker 3: streets as kids. Oh yeah, like like Joe was kicked
Speaker 3: out of the school two hundred meters up the road,
Speaker 3: and we're just like, it's a mad opportunity. It's a rooftop. Yeah,
Speaker 3: iconic hotel. The hotel stands for heaps of stuff that
Speaker 3: we believe in, and it's just like we're just like
Speaker 3: this is mad, Like we've we've we've got to we've
Speaker 3: we've got to take this opportunity and blow up the rooftop,
Speaker 3: make it, make it busy, because we were going into
Speaker 3: a pretty pretty quiet space like it had been closed
Speaker 3: previously by previous owners before and it was it was
Speaker 3: was pretty quiet. It wasn't wasn't doing well. And then
Speaker 3: we were just part of.
Speaker 2: The newly bort revamp and it was like, yeah, I've
Speaker 2: got this big challenge. You know, how do we make
Speaker 2: this rooftop busy so it's not the rooftop we're on
Speaker 2: the rooftop. Yeah, pizza ovens on the rooftop.
Speaker 1: That's cool.
Speaker 3: And it took about three months. We first went in there,
Speaker 3: and it was it was pretty dead, like it was dead,
Speaker 3: like we were doing very low revenue, were in there
Speaker 3: seven days a week, we had no staff.
Speaker 1: We're using social social.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyone that had any bloggers, pages, anything we could
Speaker 2: to promote it up until three am, texting people every night,
Speaker 2: just horrinuded.
Speaker 3: We were doing like sixteen fifteen, sixteen nowadays seven days
Speaker 3: a week for at least the first three four months
Speaker 3: until suddenly it just blew up, like we still had
Speaker 3: no staff and there was like tickets every year. It
Speaker 3: just started within a seven day period. It went from
Speaker 3: dead to like we were selling like over a thousand
Speaker 3: pizzas a week, and well we're.
Speaker 2: In there and too, like we need to find someone
Speaker 2: to pick up as also we're entire town trying to
Speaker 2: find someone to.
Speaker 3: Wash the dishes, so we don't need we do all
Speaker 3: the plates at the end as well. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: we do everything. It was no staff, just us, And
Speaker 3: now it's been solid for like eighteen months, like pretty solid,
Speaker 3: like haven't even had a bad week.
Speaker 1: And you're still saving it and you still living meagerly
Speaker 1: and save a lot of money. Yeah, So do you
Speaker 1: think you're both out and buy a joint house or
Speaker 1: apartment or do you think you'll do that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe.
Speaker 1: I mean you're saving the money jointly, I mean to
Speaker 1: get yeah, not separately. Yeah, so you're still doing everything together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a mad dream in it. Yeah, how do you
Speaker 1: feel about it?
Speaker 3: I mean, I think the amount of the amount of
Speaker 3: hours and how much we've worked over the last couple
Speaker 3: of years or even three, four or five years, even
Speaker 3: back when we're working for other people, we haven't really
Speaker 3: had much time off to let things settle in and
Speaker 3: actually realize what we've done, like, because you know when
Speaker 3: every day can reflect really when you wake up and
Speaker 3: you're trying to get it every day and you're doing
Speaker 3: massive long days, like we're on the wood fire oven.
Speaker 3: We haven't. There hasn't been one pizza sold from Pizza Bros.
Speaker 3: That we haven't made with our own hair. Like the
Speaker 3: last one hundred thousand pizzas, either I've stretched it or
Speaker 3: cooked it stretched.
Speaker 1: No one makes out you've done a hundred thousand pieces.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, one hundred thousand, hundred weeks or it depends,
Speaker 3: but like maybe not in this local I don't know.
Speaker 1: Thousand thousand pieces a week day, it's.
Speaker 3: More than more than a thousand pieces a week now
Speaker 3: hundred or.
Speaker 1: Well that's only a hundred weeks. That's two years. Probably
Speaker 1: something like that was given you working every week.
Speaker 3: And I've never done the mass. We never costed one
Speaker 3: of the pizzas.
Speaker 2: We don'tzza.
Speaker 3: I don't know what they cost to flip them out.
Speaker 1: Do you mind telling me what?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: What are your favorite pizzas?
Speaker 3: Anything with chili, our pizza, pretty our pizzas are pretty unconventional,
Speaker 3: like they're not they're not the traditional Italian Yeah, we've
Speaker 3: We've done like all kind of crazy topics.
Speaker 2: Give me some examples, like a chi chili bass.
Speaker 3: With prawns, and like truffle pizzas and hot like honey pieces.
Speaker 2: Like the new one's a wagyu steak pizza. Just different
Speaker 2: bit of Twitter. Some of the Italians don't agree. Very
Speaker 2: big Asian we're doing. Done a few podcasts themselves about us.
Speaker 3: Pizza.
Speaker 1: That's good though, that they're talking about that's good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good thing.
Speaker 3: Make an impact, big Asian influence on pizzas. And probably
Speaker 3: that goes back to a little bit like the fact
Speaker 3: that we spent so much time in Thailand and we
Speaker 3: like tay Cusins had a big impact on it.
Speaker 1: Is there a tired tasting that we've got one on
Speaker 1: we we've got.
Speaker 3: One like like klinmbed of like it is quite hot
Speaker 3: for like someone that can't eat, they wouldn't be able
Speaker 3: to eat it. But like I think our tolerance is
Speaker 3: so high, like we can eat chi palates.
Speaker 2: Changed from living in Bangkok. Really, Oh yeah, we're all
Speaker 2: out of whack now. It has to be so tasty
Speaker 2: otherwise it's not tasting.
Speaker 3: And I think that's definitely had an effect on the
Speaker 3: taste about pizzas because people are eating them, Like I've
Speaker 3: never had a pizza like this before. What does the
Speaker 3: taste like that?
Speaker 1: And what sort of crust you you guys have, It's
Speaker 1: called leopard crust.
Speaker 3: I'm going to show you that. It's on the back
Speaker 3: of the shirt. Yeah around, Yeah, the pizza tato it's
Speaker 3: called Leopard.
Speaker 2: Crafts and it's it's a pizza Pizza Tana but which
Speaker 2: is the original eighteen hundreds in Naples, the original pizza,
Speaker 2: but with a twist. So we put extra virgin olive
Speaker 2: oil in the dough, which is not If you do that,
Speaker 2: you're not a VPN certified.
Speaker 3: We've tweaked it.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: I am aware that there is a certification for from
Speaker 1: some organization in it.
Speaker 3: That's fair, that's a VPM.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Back in the days in Sydney, like early two thousands,
Speaker 3: they were all the top joints in Sydney.
Speaker 1: There's only five six people got this sort of accreditation
Speaker 1: with this ward or this license whatever they call it.
Speaker 3: A couple of our mates got it, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: proud of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, there's a few Melbourne. I got it to Melbourne,
Speaker 1: so that Grazzi or whatever the com Okay, it doesn't
Speaker 1: really matter. It's another sort of Italian joint down there.
Speaker 1: But I sort of remember this. You've got to make
Speaker 1: it a certain way.
Speaker 2: Yes, to even stretch it a certain way. Even if
Speaker 2: you make the dough and it's certified, if you then
Speaker 2: stretch it in the wrong method, then you're out. You're disqualified.
Speaker 1: They stand, they're watching it. If they're trying to give
Speaker 1: you the.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they would. If you go on for a trial
Speaker 3: and trying to get a job at one of these places,
Speaker 3: they wat change stretch you Italian guy in a vest
Speaker 3: or something that. You know what, It doesn't matter how
Speaker 3: well how good you are, how well you stretch it,
Speaker 3: they'll still be like, ah, I wasn't a right.
Speaker 2: If we're not Italian. So even if you're like Ozsi
Speaker 2: but Italian heritage, you might be all right. But if
Speaker 2: you're Italian Italian, you're definitely that's good. But if you're
Speaker 2: Aussie's with pizza tatooed on your arm and red.
Speaker 1: How do you reckon? How do you rate your pizzas?
Speaker 1: I mean, you've been around pizza game for a long time.
Speaker 1: How do you rate your pizzas relative too, in terms
Speaker 1: of like you know, I don't know, like a relative
Speaker 1: to say, some of the best time pizza makers even
Speaker 1: in the world. You probably tasted various pizza around the joint.
Speaker 1: How do you rate yourself?
Speaker 2: We love eating other people's pizzas because we get to
Speaker 2: eat our pizzas all the time. But yeah, I think
Speaker 2: we're pretty proud of what we've created.
Speaker 3: I think it also does come down like personal preference,
Speaker 3: like some people just like different styles, Like some people
Speaker 3: like crispy pizzas, some people like it soft. Like That's
Speaker 3: why the whole debate will never end. Because someone likes
Speaker 3: it soft, someone likes it crispy. Yeah, it's just pizza
Speaker 3: and a different styles I think. I'm yeah, we're pretty
Speaker 3: proud of our product. The fact that it doesn't exist
Speaker 3: anywhere else. It's very unique. There's no pizza like it,
Speaker 3: like in the country really because it is, especially with
Speaker 3: the toppings and stuff we do. So yeah, it's good
Speaker 3: to be the only one.
Speaker 1: So turn on top of the hotel with the Imperial
Speaker 1: at you'll be cooking upper storm. Like you've got the
Speaker 1: pizza oven thing going, is it like, is it gas
Speaker 1: or wood?
Speaker 3: Would? Yeah, probably probably we're going to turn them more's Yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: A paint the ass. I mean I actually during COVID,
Speaker 1: like I don't know how I got talked to, but
Speaker 1: I built. I've got a guy to come building a
Speaker 1: pizza up like bricks and in the back of the
Speaker 1: and I've only used it once but twice. But I
Speaker 1: didn't really had to get it's wood pizza right, so
Speaker 1: I had to get up to a certain temperature.
Speaker 3: You can preheat it.
Speaker 1: It takes so long. I mean, you would only do
Speaker 1: it if you're sort of going to cook a hundred
Speaker 1: pizzas twenty usially a couple of hours.
Speaker 3: You needed at least to get the oven at the
Speaker 3: right time and.
Speaker 1: It's actually hard work, Like you've got to be really attendive.
Speaker 1: That's why I quite like the what's that? Whether's the dome?
Speaker 1: I got a done on my farm, but I got
Speaker 1: the other guys near the smaller one that roo rock boxy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got one of those, but I don't put the
Speaker 1: wood in and put the gas on the back. It's
Speaker 1: really good that.
Speaker 3: That's how pizza Bros. At the Brewery started.
Speaker 1: It was rock box That's what I bought one, and
Speaker 1: then he came on a show and he gave me
Speaker 1: one of the bigger ones and long time. But that's
Speaker 1: it my farm. I have never used it, actually, but
Speaker 1: I love the rock box I've got. I've got rock
Speaker 1: box at the farm too. But the big pizza we're
Speaker 1: gonna put the wooden. It's like a mission. Like it's
Speaker 1: a dead set mission, Lea. So you'll be doing that
Speaker 1: like the time you kick it off.
Speaker 3: I mean like, yeah, we'll be starting a bit late today.
Speaker 2: But I forgot to get the key off him last night,
Speaker 2: so we want to turn that. I'm supposed to preheat
Speaker 2: it before we came to The album's not on, but
Speaker 2: we'll just go on blasts, all right, we've got.
Speaker 1: And then all the preparation all they like. I don't
Speaker 1: make the I go and buy something that's already made.
Speaker 1: I do the topics, but I don't don't think do
Speaker 1: the other thing. But I quite like my pizza that
Speaker 1: I don't know what. Because cook myself often I feel
Speaker 1: like I've achieved something like proud of It sounds a
Speaker 1: bit silly, but it sounds a little little bit juvenaled.
Speaker 1: But I actually quite like my own pizza when I
Speaker 1: bring it out, like I think that's pretty good. That's
Speaker 1: about money and things.
Speaker 3: I cook a lot of people now they cook.
Speaker 2: I haven't got sick of it fifteen years. I love
Speaker 2: making pizzas.
Speaker 1: Why do you guys love making pizzas? Tell me why?
Speaker 1: Apart from it, I don't know anything.
Speaker 2: I don't know anything else anything I know and you
Speaker 2: know you do well.
Speaker 3: The only thing I do well. It's just stretching circles
Speaker 3: and cooking them properly.
Speaker 1: But why do you love me? To love me because
Speaker 1: of people who buy from you enjoy it? Or is
Speaker 1: it because it's creative and or it's your own business.
Speaker 2: Or it's a creative outlet. I guess like like our
Speaker 2: margarita We don't do a red like a normal spoon sauce.
Speaker 3: We do splash it. So we're trying to be artists.
Speaker 3: It is creative, but every every pizza we make is
Speaker 3: our own creation. Yeah, I guess, yeah, it is that much.
Speaker 2: But yeah, pizza only even in Italy, it's just a
Speaker 2: way of life. Like they go to the pizza, ea,
Speaker 2: they get espresso, the cigarette. It's just yeah, it's a lifestyle,
Speaker 2: I guess yeah, and not many people would want to
Speaker 2: do it though, for like that many hours in whole
Speaker 2: hundred and forty degree oven, standing up for twelve hours
Speaker 2: the next day, twelve hours the wood.
Speaker 3: It's not like such smoke. Yeah, sometimes I go home
Speaker 3: and like I'm cooked from the other Some of the
Speaker 3: jobs we had before prior the chimneys weren't fitted properly.
Speaker 3: Go home, I touched my nose a black soot. It's
Speaker 3: like it's an undesirable team to want to do. It's
Speaker 3: full hard YAKA. Like I said, it's not easy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: people think it is, and that's why so many people
Speaker 3: have opened pizza places that have never worked, because they
Speaker 3: weren't pizza chefs themselves, and they just thought that they
Speaker 3: could do.
Speaker 2: There was a wave in the Lockdown of people making
Speaker 2: pizzas at home going on that.
Speaker 1: Well that's me. I got the rock Boston of the period.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And that's when pizza making became cool internationally.
Speaker 2: Prior to that, we were considered maybe less than a chef,
Speaker 2: a pizziolo or a pizziola. But in the COVID Lockdown,
Speaker 2: with the help of Gosney, it kind of became this
Speaker 2: trend all around the world. Hey, pizzas cool.
Speaker 1: He guys cool, the guy, he is a cool dude.
Speaker 1: You met Tom Yeah, he sat right there, true, yeah him,
Speaker 1: Yet we spoken to him. He came to Australia and
Speaker 1: he wanted to come to the show, so he sat
Speaker 1: right there like, yeah, he's cool.
Speaker 3: He's a good good story too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, unbelievable. And it's interesting that you go start off
Speaker 1: with that. And so where to from here though, it's.
Speaker 3: A good question. That's that's top secret.
Speaker 1: Come on, we've went breaking news from Pizza bro.
Speaker 3: Well, I think like we want to.
Speaker 2: We're pretty serious about our content, the content we create,
Speaker 2: pretty serious about equality. A few topics that might be
Speaker 2: like in a mainstream Australia might be a bit touchy
Speaker 2: to some people. People have their own opinions on it.
Speaker 3: We we also we do do make content stuff that
Speaker 3: have nothing to do with the pizza. Yeah, nothing to
Speaker 3: do with it. And that's what you know. I'm sure
Speaker 3: there's people out there that are just like, oh, why
Speaker 3: they're doing that way they're doing this, But everything we've
Speaker 3: done so far has.
Speaker 1: Worked, and I reckon you've got a plan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, everyone like marks into it.
Speaker 1: If someone tells I'd love to playing cards because like
Speaker 1: you're a bit craft, yeah you can't. You can't keep
Speaker 1: the smile. I know that I can see something cooking
Speaker 1: in his brain. Guilty, not guilty, but cooking, cooking.
Speaker 3: But yeah, we're not one hundred percent sure, but we've
Speaker 3: got some Yeah, we've got plans.
Speaker 1: And well, Gym's in the food game. I'm in the
Speaker 1: broadcast game, so I'll put through a hat in the ring.
Speaker 1: So if you want to do something around that territory,
Speaker 1: like if you're thinking about something outside of food, maybe
Speaker 1: come and see me. Like it sounds like it'd be
Speaker 1: fun because you've got a young guys, and I got
Speaker 1: a young team here, and I get so much energy
Speaker 1: out of people like you, like young people. I mean
Speaker 1: I'd love to do something crazy busses like you like something,
Speaker 1: there's nothing better for me.
Speaker 3: Let's do it.
Speaker 2: We just got the Mustang wrapped camos, so we get
Speaker 2: marked to drive it or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mustang, I love them.
Speaker 2: Yeah serious, I'm a learner. I can't drive.
Speaker 3: It's Mundy's car.
Speaker 1: You get a Mustake, Yeah, a new one or one
Speaker 1: of the old.
Speaker 3: It's an old one's twenty seventeen, but it's it's been
Speaker 3: done up. It's had a lot of work done to it.
Speaker 3: You got wrapped like in wrapped in cameo. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: like kind of like something and drive.
Speaker 1: It's not not one of the old left hand drives.
Speaker 3: No, right, yeah it was. Yeah, but it's had a
Speaker 3: lot of work done to it. So yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1: It's been I love I love my stakes. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: kept thinking I should buy one, like I keep saying
Speaker 1: I'm going to buy I'm going to buy one, and
Speaker 1: then I sort of forget about it.
Speaker 3: The new ones off the head, they're mad.
Speaker 1: The new ones, like the motor is unreal. They sound good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I like the old sixty five, those light blue ones.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, six five six six, I think what is
Speaker 1: sixty five six six. Obviously you guys weren't born.
Speaker 3: But that's like, that's like back in like the clin
Speaker 3: Eastwood Bank robbery.
Speaker 1: But left they're they're all left hand drive, of course,
Speaker 1: but really yeah yeah, but they look unreal.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, they've seen not convertible and a few of
Speaker 3: them around.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you see, you do seem around like the
Speaker 1: colors ws on them. Total car, but the left hand
Speaker 1: drive light blue sixty five Mustang Mate curl so good,
Speaker 1: like Mark's next car so good, you know, like I'm
Speaker 1: driving all land Cruise of these days. I'm just being practical.
Speaker 1: But I keep saying, why you be so fucking practical?
Speaker 1: Like just being impractic like I was when I was younger.
Speaker 1: When you're younger, more impractical, you do things you want
Speaker 1: to do, and you get older you start to think, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be prady like that. But now you've
Speaker 1: guys inspired me, which is the reason why I like
Speaker 1: to have young people around me, because they actually inspire
Speaker 1: me to do good ship like younger people stuff. You
Speaker 1: guys are inspiring me just listening to your story. The
Speaker 1: story is unreal. There's unreal. I'm going to have to
Speaker 1: get up there I'm gonna forget out.
Speaker 3: I'll bring fan with their seven days.
Speaker 2: I bring yeah another.
Speaker 1: He's one of my great mates. So like he ran
Speaker 1: me yesterday so twice. I know, I know why because
Speaker 1: there was a final last time that you probably you
Speaker 1: want to probably want to go or something like that.
Speaker 1: But but I'll bring Jeff and I probably suits you too.
Speaker 1: And Jeff rings.
Speaker 3: We did a cook up at their house, like not
Speaker 3: that long ago.
Speaker 2: We left him a Gosney. They loved the gosney so much.
Speaker 3: Leave it here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he went and got a belt and
Speaker 2: signed it and we were all drunk on the red wine.
Speaker 1: At didn't play cards with like you no, be careful.
Speaker 3: We discussed that. No, no, that was the end of
Speaker 3: the night.
Speaker 1: He gets to play cards because he can drink.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd never had red wine that good.
Speaker 3: That was that was the best red wine. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's he's got good war tours as well.
Speaker 2: He's got mad We couldn't believe Mike Tyson's pants there.
Speaker 2: We just signed and everything.
Speaker 1: You know, he's got one mate. He's because he knows
Speaker 1: you're training. He trained years. Jeff's a good blake mate.
Speaker 3: He's a bit very supportive of us from the beginning. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Like Mardy reached.
Speaker 2: Out to his daughter member in Merrickville and said, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, my brother used to cook your family pizzas
Speaker 2: or whatnot, and he came.
Speaker 3: Down very he was, he was, he was. He came
Speaker 3: down the day I messaged her the same few hours later,
Speaker 3: he just comes walking down to the brewery and we
Speaker 3: were like, he's here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he heard was a pizza called the married formula
Speaker 2: married for He.
Speaker 3: Found there's too Maltese brothers doing it. That would us.
Speaker 3: Being Maltese helped one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Because he's becomes you've got to be really multi centric
Speaker 1: like he's become. Because he went back to Malta last
Speaker 1: year and the first first time, and that was his
Speaker 1: first time and they trimmed like god like the not
Speaker 1: surprise ambassador something like some fancy president or whatever they
Speaker 1: meet him to superstarf made to him to them he is,
Speaker 1: you know, and small country. It's unbelievable, unbelievable. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: definitely coming down and I'm dying to know what you're
Speaker 1: gonna do from here. Don't you give it away? Okay,
Speaker 1: don't you know it is too obviously you know it.
Speaker 1: But you're cooking something. I know it and you guys,
Speaker 1: actually it's a bit like spending. I mean, I love
Speaker 1: the fact that young guys get out and say and
Speaker 1: do and back it up with something that's like high
Speaker 1: value for Australians. You back it up and spend his
Speaker 1: backs up with what he does. People love his content,
Speaker 1: his inspiration for aspirational people, his inspiration for people who
Speaker 1: go down the wrong track and turn their lives around.
Speaker 1: You guys are doing the same thing. And what's great
Speaker 1: about this story is how you never fucking gave up.
Speaker 1: And what's really good about it, and it resonates with
Speaker 1: me in particular, is that two brothers just kept backing
Speaker 1: each other, that that brotherly link is so strong like.
Speaker 3: Old school that it wasn't that the way it used
Speaker 3: to be, like old clack in the day brothers would
Speaker 3: go there, brother.
Speaker 1: My brother and I still the same. And I'm nearly seventy.
Speaker 1: So my brother and I were still in business together.
Speaker 1: And he left UNI at twenty four, if you need it,
Speaker 1: same age, but I'm five years older than him. We've
Speaker 1: been in business ever since he left UNI, ever since,
Speaker 1: so that's forty odd years.
Speaker 3: Well, and we're also going to trust.
Speaker 1: But your brother maybe the best. And by the way,
Speaker 1: we fucking argue all the time. You can argue, but
Speaker 1: you said brother you always no matter what, ain't no
Speaker 1: worries whatever, get on with it. And such a good
Speaker 1: thing to about it, to all the story. So I
Speaker 1: want to congratulations, well done and thanks for coming in.
Speaker 3: Guys appreciate it, thanks for having appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 3: M hm hmmm.