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Speaker 1: Gooday, super Coaches strap been welcome back once more, many

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Speaker 1: would say for the final time for the Super Coach

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Speaker 1: AFL podcast, at least for this season, because now we're

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Speaker 1: going to be talking about the off season gentlemen, right,

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Speaker 1: So this is it. The season is done. We have

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Speaker 1: a winner. Someone's fifty k richer. You can go listen

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Speaker 1: to that chat with jo Man on the what is

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Speaker 1: it the Fantom's Lair. It was a good one too.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little bit jealous, just saying, but we are

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Speaker 1: here to wrap up season twenty twenty four for you.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, James Clement's joining me today. A couple

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Speaker 1: of the greatest super coach brains on this here big

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Speaker 1: blue Marble we call the planet Earth.

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Speaker 2: Patches back.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, Patch, good a James, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm tired, but that's okay.

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Speaker 3: It's just half of course, you know, the jet leg

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Speaker 3: from Brisbane.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just the sadness and like I know, looking after

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Speaker 1: a five year old an entire weekend, just you know,

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Speaker 1: beat you down.

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Speaker 2: Sorry to the Blues.

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Speaker 1: Just the crossing disappointment of being manhandled by the Lions.

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Speaker 1: But either way, we've also got the Guru himself, Al Payton.

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Ol, Good day, James, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 5: Dust has settled a little bit on the super Coach season,

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Speaker 5: so I thought it was time for Melbourne style, full

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Speaker 5: external review everything that went wrong. We've got maybe a

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Speaker 5: few things right, but hopefully we can maybe pick a

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Speaker 5: few things out that we can take into the preseason,

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Speaker 5: as you said, which starts pretty.

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Speaker 3: Soon, for the external review conducted by you.

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Speaker 4: That's right, that's how Melbourne doing it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or you the one that's being booted out like

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Speaker 2: this stepping down.

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Speaker 3: It can be both. It can be two things.

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Speaker 2: Look, I prefer a bloodless coup. That's fine.

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Speaker 1: Why not blood anyway, Let's do it anyway, Asmanilla I

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Speaker 1: said to the teenage written into Turtles and The Secret

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Speaker 1: of the Ouse, let's get rapping.

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Speaker 2: Also, go Ninja, Go ninja, go.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it Season twenty twenty four The rap Let's

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Speaker 1: do it, gentlemen, heroes and villains. Where we finished our

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Speaker 1: total score? How happy were you with your year? I

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Speaker 1: mean the way that we saw the our leader heading

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Speaker 1: like one of those classic super Coat stories as well.

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Speaker 2: We shatted to Kadi's crew the last week.

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Speaker 1: Of the heading into that final round, and he was

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Speaker 1: overtaken by Joven and it was exactly as you kind

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Speaker 1: of expect, right, like a couple of injuries really just

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Speaker 2: Incredible. But where did you finish up out?

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Speaker 5: My final rank was one thy two hundred and ninety three,

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Speaker 5: which was I mean, that's one of my better results,

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Speaker 5: so you know, shouldn't get two down on myself, but

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Speaker 5: I lost about six hundred spots in the last two weeks.

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Speaker 5: Just a similar situation as you just described, whether the

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Speaker 5: wrong injuries at the wrong time. Looking at my team

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Speaker 5: in the final round in the four, I mean, it's

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Speaker 5: year from even in the preseason what a nightmare the

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Speaker 4: The letters DNP next to their name.

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Speaker 5: Rough, which yeah, pretty much killed off any hope I

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Speaker 5: One stays there sort of midway through the season, but yeah,

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Speaker 5: the last third of the year a bit like you

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Speaker 1: Just kicking a man, This is brutal Patch. How about yourself.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I fell off very sharply in the last month

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Speaker 2: Is that correlational causation?

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Speaker 3: We don't know, Yes is the answer.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 3: So yeah.

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Speaker 1: Nice one, I finished in the top twenty nine percent.

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Speaker 1: That was good, I think. And then we're about to

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Speaker 1: I'm going to try to take a different approach, and

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Speaker 1: start with the hits and missuses of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Aka overall Heroes and Villains. OL do you want to

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Speaker 5: I went back and had a look at my team

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I got some of those right.

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Speaker 5: Probably my biggest fail in my starting team was picked

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Speaker 4: So didn't quite get that one right. But you kind

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Speaker 4: of need some players you can trade out to get

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Speaker 2: It's a very optimistic way of looking at it.

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Speaker 1: You've got to have some dudes who sucks so you

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Speaker 2: Pats, you were your best and worst starting picks.

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Speaker 6: I also started in the same boat there, and yes,

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Speaker 6: You know, he was that more expensive in all the rookies.

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Speaker 6: I started, always planned to trade him out after two weeks.

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Speaker 6: In hindsight, should have been Isaac Kiny But you know,

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Speaker 4: I think he ended up We'll get to this later,

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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, exactly, he was.

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Speaker 6: You know, he did the Charlie Curno from last year

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Speaker 3: Was that one. And I called it, yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Nailed it.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, there you go the easily for me, I mean

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Speaker 1: the obvious ones for best starting picks with stupid sexy Flanders.

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Speaker 1: Everybody was across that course. He was just lock and load.

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Speaker 1: He only scored under a hundred one twice all season, basically.

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Speaker 3: In the end two times I captained him, Thanks Sam.

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Speaker 2: Max Corn.

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Speaker 1: Just even with the injury sort of like you know,

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Speaker 1: I think there were people who traded out gone. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I just never needed to, right, I just forgot about it.

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Speaker 1: But for me, it's Noah Anderson if he was at home, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: Coat's like Galaxy braining myself into going no, no, no, Noe.

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Speaker 2: Anderson is a primo. He is if he's at home.

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Speaker 1: If he's above the twenty eighth parallel, he's an absolute gun.

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Speaker 1: if nothing else, I needed something to complain about, and

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Speaker 1: that worked out great. My stupid handsome Connor Rosie. That

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Speaker 1: was just sometimes players who are proper, proper primos just

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Speaker 1: well and then had the year from Hell, and like Butters,

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Speaker 1: The one that I want to put like an na

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Speaker 1: next to is the Hornet, Jason horn Francis. It's like

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Speaker 1: it feels like I've just gone a year to early

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Speaker 1: on him, and I think next year is the year

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Speaker 1: that he is absolute primo.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that later.

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Speaker 1: The other one, though, Sean Manner, my best pick, just

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Speaker 2: He never got moved. He was literally the one.

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Speaker 1: It was in my team round one to the end

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Speaker 1: of the season. The worst ones were Jaden Short, your

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Speaker 1: mate al killing me.

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Speaker 5: Did you trade him to Vollstonehead that I did, so.

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Speaker 1: He pops up a bit anyway, the Warlord as well,

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Speaker 1: George Waldlot I thought he was. He probably had more

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Speaker 1: I didn't start with him and I never got him in.

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Speaker 5: Amazingly though Joe and we tooked we've just briefly touched

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Speaker 4: He did not have all year.

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Speaker 5: Never had Luke Ryan, I've had Zach, Butter's never had

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Speaker 2: So that's amazing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he sort of can't do it, but yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: So I think the one thing I ondly hit on

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Speaker 1: Yep, right, we mentioned this one best and worst trades.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with you.

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Speaker 6: Patch my speaking about this with Al a few days ago.

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Speaker 6: The I reckon the worst trade or where my season

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Speaker 6: it was a case of you need to trade him in,

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Speaker 6: Like the the you know, fish move was to trade

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Speaker 6: move to zag. The other way was to go anyone else,

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Speaker 3: And really regret it.

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Speaker 6: So that was the you know, once I started, I

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Speaker 6: I really, in hindsight would look back and go, well,

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Speaker 6: an antipod in Walsh would have been really nice to

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Speaker 6: he suddenly good, good player, scores good points more at

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Speaker 6: later and that was needless waste, that would make a

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Speaker 3: It was just.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, politics with patch tune in more over the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have about some worse ones for you there are.

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Speaker 4: I think, yeah, you sort of touched on it.

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Speaker 5: There that theme that I picked up going back through

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Speaker 5: It's just a matter of when you got him and

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Speaker 5: if you picked him up mid season thinking I've just

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Speaker 6: Around eight or something, right and sixty Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 4: I mean he finished quite strong, but.

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Speaker 5: You could easily if he was fine, Yeah, you could

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Speaker 3: Like a Jackson Clair or someone like yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 5: Like Phantom got Lucky Neil on the Brisbane Buy brilliant

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Speaker 4: He was incredible.

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Speaker 5: I got him with about five weeks to go, when

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Speaker 4: But for me over only having him for five weeks,

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Speaker 5: So and yeah, just yeah, it's so hard to resist

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Speaker 4: You know people are getting them and I'm not, And

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Speaker 3: Want but sweet sweet can Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Now you know that I can try and grab, so

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Speaker 5: But trades that I got right getting Cherry in was great.

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Speaker 5: Took me until round twenty to do it, but still

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Speaker 5: got four amazing scores out of him, And looking back

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Speaker 5: I traded out or must have been coming into round

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Speaker 5: five trade out James Jordan coming into his buy trade

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Speaker 4: You two trades for the week, I think right there.

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Speaker 4: About twelve weeks.

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Speaker 5: And then the whole Alex Sexton, Zach Fisher, mckirtcher, revolving door.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't going to mention it.

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Speaker 2: The Gordian knut.

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Speaker 5: So I started Sexton, traded him out, I started mckirche,

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Speaker 4: I brought them both back in.

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Speaker 5: I think I did the same with Fisher, and then

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Speaker 5: at one stage my final trade, oh I know, in

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Speaker 4: The whole thing was just a nightmare.

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Speaker 2: Love it. Uh, Mine are very very simple.

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Speaker 1: Two words Martin yahah round one.

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Speaker 1: The blueprint for a failed super season is written in

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Speaker 1: If you just stay with that, you're all good. The

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Speaker 1: I believe was for Massimo dan Brosio, So that's an

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Speaker 1: sort of going from there. The Nick Martin too players

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Speaker 1: we could have kept exactly mas ends up being awesome

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Speaker 2: Yuck.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just I would have outscored Clary.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably by the length of like the Flemingtons straight

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Speaker 2: So that was bad.

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Speaker 1: The best one was just easily bringing in Heeni in

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Speaker 2: He was all awesome.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that's the biggest sort of we'll

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Speaker 1: world's smartest man.

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Speaker 2: H three, rips off one hundred.

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Speaker 1: And thirty up on the Gold Coast, and then you

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Speaker 1: watch of Looston's role sort of take over from him

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Speaker 1: they've got my stink on them. Back round boys, you

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Speaker 2: That's maybe where it's at.

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Speaker 6: So sorry, it would be very remissive us to go

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Speaker 6: through the entire you're talking about bad trades and not

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Speaker 6: have me mentioned mason Wood. Mason Wood with my last

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Speaker 6: was now I burned. It was Zach Fisher. Yes, it

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Speaker 6: could have been Anyoney. It could have been Jesse Hogan

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Speaker 6: it was mason Wood. Which I think the lesson to

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Speaker 6: Last the year before last, I think it was Levi

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Speaker 3: Just hold on, just to hold your last trade and

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Speaker 2: So what was your best trade?

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Speaker 3: Again, Pat, I.

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Speaker 6: Didn't run through my best trades because I forgot. I

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Speaker 6: start the year of just finding a lot of value,

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Speaker 6: finding a lot of rookies, I kind of timed them

443
00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,160
Speaker 6: really nicely on a lot of fronts. So I think

444
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Speaker 6: they're the best trades I made, and they really set

445
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Speaker 6: a really strong foundation that I then, you know, foundation

446
00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,640
Speaker 6: of the sand castle that they got washed away by

447
00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,000
Speaker 6: the tide of gray brain matter seeping out of my skull.

448
00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,000
Speaker 2: So much Galaxy branding this year.

449
00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,000
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, well, I guess that sort of sets

450
00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,359
Speaker 1: up then what we got right and what we got wrong,

451
00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,320
Speaker 1: maybe from a meta point of view, this year I think,

452
00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,399
Speaker 1: mind very simply. What I got right was bringing Joy

453
00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,360
Speaker 1: Coldwell towards the end of the season. Love That move

454
00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,040
Speaker 1: just nailed that one. Timing wise, he had a great

455
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,399
Speaker 1: run home and keeping Gorne as I sort of mentioned.

456
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Speaker 1: But I think overall and this sort of lends itself

457
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Speaker 1: to the lessons that we learned. But like you know,

458
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,720
Speaker 1: what we get right sometimes things we don't do. Yes,

459
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,640
Speaker 1: you know, point what we got wrong was trading well,

460
00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,720
Speaker 1: spending four trades on Martin and Young.

461
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Speaker 6: Or mucking around in the rack a lot of people.

462
00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,840
Speaker 6: You know Jordan's Sweet, Remember to remember Jordan Sweet. He's

463
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Speaker 6: back and in the finals.

464
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Speaker 1: Ironic you should say that, because what we got wrong

465
00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,720
Speaker 1: trading out Grundy and Galaxy braining it to Jordan's Sweet,

466
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Speaker 1: thinking that you can get me a couple of weeks.

467
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,119
Speaker 1: There's a bridge raised up. We could switch him out

468
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:02,560
Speaker 1: to Royal Marshall. It just never happened.

469
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:03,639
Speaker 2: So that was brutal.

470
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,240
Speaker 1: And the other one what I got wrong was obviously,

471
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Speaker 1: as I mentioned earlier, Galaxy, braining myself out of going,

472
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,200
Speaker 1: don't worry, Bond will drop enough in price that I

473
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Speaker 1: can bring him in.

474
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,560
Speaker 2: He never did and I never did, so.

475
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Speaker 5: I think it was crediting the right person that the

476
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,919
Speaker 5: Doctor Super Coach guys who pointed out that every single

477
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 5: player in Supercoach at some stage during the season dropped

478
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 5: below six hundred K except Bond.

479
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:24,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

480
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,479
Speaker 6: I think the sleepest he got was six hundred and

481
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 6: fifteen or so, which is when I got him, and

482
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 6: then he scored one hundred and ninety the week I

483
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,120
Speaker 6: got him, and it was just no looking back.

484
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 2: It's right.

485
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 1: He was six hundred and fourteen in round seven, and

486
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 1: he ripped off one hundred and forty two the next

487
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Speaker 1: week at Marvel against the Hawks, and.

488
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Speaker 3: There was another point just just before he's by. I

489
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,160
Speaker 3: think that was about it.

490
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he never sort of looked back again.

491
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was six thirty two against Sydney at Marvel

492
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 1: and then ripped off one eighty six against.

493
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 2: Coin the next week. That was the douge.

494
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Speaker 1: It was just like chaos, I think, Yeah, I think

495
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Speaker 1: I made the decision of starrong at that point because

496
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,479
Speaker 1: I could afford him and I couldn't afford but want.

497
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 2: So that's what I got right and wrong. Oh geez, album.

498
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,120
Speaker 5: I think what I got right was getting on those

499
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,719
Speaker 5: guys and gave me a really solid start, and for

500
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 5: half a season I felt like I was maybe one

501
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 5: trade ahead of people who were mucking around with trading

502
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 5: Nick Martin in and out, and you know, I never

503
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 5: had Nick Martin, so that was an issue. Though in

504
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 5: the end it turns out he finished the year really

505
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 5: well for people who had him at that point.

506
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 4: But yeah, getting those guys who started.

507
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 5: The year really strong, and especially in the those early

508
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 5: by rounds and the best eighteen rounds, the right strategy,

509
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,439
Speaker 5: as it turns out, was to not try and spread

510
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,439
Speaker 5: the value over your team so much, but invest in

511
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 5: guys who could put up some massive scores because if

512
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 5: you had four or five sort of duds, you know

513
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 5: they didn't count anyway. So getting the big scores from

514
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 5: a Green or Steel was flying at that stage.

515
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 4: He need.

516
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,120
Speaker 5: These guys were really helped me get a good start

517
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 5: to the season. So if the AFL goes down that

518
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 5: road again next year, which every chance they will. That's

519
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 5: something I will definitely keep in mind. And you know,

520
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 5: trying to pick the you know you're trying to pick

521
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 5: it off one or two games. I suppose opening round helped,

522
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 5: but you know you're getting on Heney. After one game

523
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 5: I got on Luke. Ryan didn't start him, but after

524
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 5: one game I was like, I can see that's going

525
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 5: to be, you know, a trend I need to get on.

526
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 5: And you know we don't always get that right, but

527
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 5: in those cases, yeah, getting those guys early definitely helped

528
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 5: set up my season. And the what I got wrong

529
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 5: can be summed up in two words. Charlie Kurno, Oh,

530
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 5: just absolute disaster bringing him in. It was about round fifteen,

531
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 5: I think, and I think the kind of lesson there, which,

532
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 5: as you say, sort of getting into our next topic,

533
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 5: but is that you can maybe get away with a

534
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 5: key forward if you're picking them for the final round,

535
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 5: you spot up a matchup, you get a Jeremy Cameron

536
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 5: against West Coast or Jesse Hoagan or someone like that.

537
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 5: But to try and do it for eight or nine rounds,

538
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 5: it's always going to end in disaster. I mean, you

539
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 5: couldn't have possibly predicted it. Going as badly as it

540
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 5: did with Charlie. But yeah, that was sort of the

541
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 5: beginning of the end for my super gooch hopes this year.

542
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, the only way it could have gone worse is

543
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 1: if he had have fallen into like an endless hole

544
00:22:59,480 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: in there.

545
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 6: Well, no, that would have been better because that could

546
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 6: have traded him out, but he was still playing and

547
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 6: still had a good run coming up.

548
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 2: How about you, Patch, What did you get right? What

549
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 2: did you get wrong?

550
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, Kurne was another one I got wrong,

551
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 6: But yeah, I kind of broadly spoken that, you know,

552
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 6: I somehow nailed my starting side out of you know,

553
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 6: as sheer Fluke. Probably could have aimed for rookies that

554
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 6: had higher ceilings to kind of compliment the fact that,

555
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 6: you know, early doors we had those buys, and I

556
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 6: think next year I'd try and target place It might

557
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 6: not be as consistent, but like an Aaron Cadman, for example,

558
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 6: had a few games we spiked a bit and was

559
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 6: in that you know, gave me those eighty instead of

560
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 6: fifty for a rookie, you know, the rookies that scored

561
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,400
Speaker 6: fifties in count So maybe that'd be something I'd look

562
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 6: more at next year, and yeah, kind of the way

563
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 6: I built cash. I was very happy with Dossi from

564
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 6: the lair and I. We were basically in a race

565
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 6: to see who could make the most by the bys,

566
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 6: and you know we we did quite well with that.

567
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 6: And then suddenly, you know, when actually it had to

568
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 6: start making the upgrades and you know, got a bit

569
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 6: gun shy with a few of them. Was when it

570
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 6: started falling apart. And then I kept falling apart and

571
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 6: fell apart quite.

572
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 2: A lot by the end with aves.

573
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 6: In with you know, Kurnel, I don't know, somebody clicked

574
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 6: the fingers and half of my team was gone or

575
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 6: bad or both. So and yeah, you know, some of

576
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 6: the trades I didn't make were really good, like the

577
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 6: Jordan Sweet making sure he was on the bench.

578
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 3: That was a move I was very happy with.

579
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 6: But then likewise, I spent five trades on copy mccerchey

580
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 6: this year, I you know, traded sheet all out and

581
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 6: then back in within a couple of weeks of each other.

582
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 3: Just those moves that just I could have not done,

583
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 3: and yet I did. Anyway.

584
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 6: I think also what I got was assuming forty trades,

585
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 6: was a lot of trades where it is not a

586
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 6: lot of trades.

587
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 4: So I remember that when everyone was blowing up about forty.

588
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 6: Trades being too many and we had no injuries for

589
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 6: eighteen weeks and everyone was still out of trades anyway.

590
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 6: So yeah, I think that that's very much a case

591
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 6: of try and budget for this many trades, and then

592
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 6: try and stick to that budget, and then when you

593
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 6: don't stick to that budget, get someone to whack you

594
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 6: over the head with a big hammer. So that's I'm

595
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 6: going to go out and buy a big hammer for

596
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 6: next year.

597
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: I like that. I think that was my approach.

598
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: I think those last couple of weeks, right, I think

599
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 1: I said that in the last show where it's like, yeah,

600
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: I just need to be told that I only have

601
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 1: sixteen trades. Yeah, so James, you have sixteen trades. I'm like, what, Well,

602
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: I've only got sixteen. Everyone has got forty. I have forty,

603
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: but I can only ever see sixteen. Yeah, just so

604
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: I don't get ahead of the skies.

605
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 5: Right, Well, we have discussed this thrown around ideas about

606
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 5: one thing you know super Coach could do is almost

607
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 5: cording off only let you use you know, twenty trades

608
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 5: in the first x number of rounds and then you know,

609
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 5: you release another batch of ten, Like we could actually

610
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 5: just do that ourselves if we had the discipline.

611
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 4: That's all.

612
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 3: It is, just what's a dish. Well, the other things Jesus.

613
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: Happened, Well, I guess this sort of then lends itself

614
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: very nicely to what was the biggest lesson from twenty

615
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: twenty four. Mine was just very simply sit tight, like

616
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: primos are primos for a reason.

617
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 2: For the vast majority of the.

618
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: Time, unless it's injury related or something like that, Primos

619
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: is primos, is primos. And if you're going to back

620
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: yourself back yourself, I think I'm rife with galaxy brain.

621
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm just always like, how can a galaxy brain.

622
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: This next thing? It's gonna be awesome. Trust me, It's

623
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: never awesome.

624
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: If I had it, just like settled in, relaxed and

625
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: let it roll away we go. Primos are primos for

626
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: a reason. If injuries strike, move that's fine. But outside

627
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: of that, don't hate in young Nick Martin your way

628
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: into just stupidity and stuff like that. I think that

629
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: was the biggest lesson. I learned this lesson every year

630
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: on Supercherch. Do I ever listen, of course not next

631
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: year rolls around round so much trade trade trade. I'm

632
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: just like out there, Semity Sam, just like letting loose,

633
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: like we're just a bit shooting trades and I eat

634
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: you can happily eat some lost dollars. You have the

635
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: player in your team, right if the cash you it

636
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: doesn't come out of your pocket, like overall it.

637
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 2: Kind of does.

638
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 3: The only way to lock in that lasses made moving

639
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 3: them on exactly.

640
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: So if they stay in your team, they might build

641
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: it back up, as we saw with Young and Martin

642
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: and so so forth this year.

643
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: And that's kind of it.

644
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: So I think Galaxy braining yourself into Jordan's Sweet, It's okay, Look,

645
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: Jackson'll be fine as my art too. No, he wasn't

646
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: as good as your are too, Jordan Sweet what injured

647
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 1: two weeks after we all made that move.

648
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: So that's my big lesson from that patch. What about you?

649
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 6: I think one that I did take away that I

650
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 6: haven't spoken about yet was kind of the law of

651
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 6: averages still exists. Like you look at and you know,

652
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 6: speaking about locking Neil, you look at Likecky Neil's first

653
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 6: half the season to go. This is a dual Brownlow

654
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 6: Medalist who averages one hundred and twenty every year, and

655
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 6: he's averaged ninety five or ninety nine or whatever it

656
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 6: was up until this point of the year. Maybe he's

657
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 6: going to be good in the second half of the year,

658
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 6: and lo and behold he was. And likewise, you look

659
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 6: at players like Luke Ryan and Matt Rowe who were

660
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 6: averaging one hundred and twenty one hundred and thirty. Any

661
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 6: late players don't do that unless named Gary Ablett Jr.

662
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 6: And unless there was a legal name change I'd missed it.

663
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 3: You know, they will plumme it back to earth.

664
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 6: And that law of averages, I think is a good

665
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 6: guideline where you put them into that bracket and go, well,

666
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 6: you know, is this a player that's going to have

667
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 6: age hundred and thirty for the year.

668
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 3: No, no one can. No one who's mortal can do that.

669
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 6: And I think that was something I really should have

670
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 6: kept in mind when looking at trading in you know,

671
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 6: Raul and Ryan and then looking at the cheaper options,

672
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 6: you know, like Neil or Sinclair or whoever else where.

673
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 6: You know, if you kind of look broader picture, that

674
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 6: then can help you pick up those guys that are

675
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 6: undervalued and might have a riproaring second half of the year,

676
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 6: and I mean there's every chance they don't. But you know,

677
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 6: Elder You was one. You know, Dawson was one where

678
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 6: you know, and you trade those guys out after they've

679
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,239
Speaker 6: been doing badly and you lock in that loss of

680
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 6: cash and also of points because you're probably not going

681
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 6: to trade them back in unless you're an idiot who

682
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 6: uses fire trades on one person. But like you just

683
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 6: kind of, you know, you lock yourself back out of it.

684
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 6: When they then start scoring well so very much. You've

685
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 6: got to try and have that big picture, which is

686
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 6: really hard when people are scoring two, six, twenty and

687
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 6: seven hundred and you're wallowing with.

688
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 5: It's round five and you're like this, this is going

689
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 5: to be the year when six players everag.

690
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 4: One hundred and forty.

691
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

692
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 6: It's really hard, but it's just you need to take

693
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 6: that step back and get someone to whack you over

694
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 6: the head with a big hammer. You mentioned that, Yeah, well,

695
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 6: I just need someone to knock be unconscious for the

696
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 6: four weeks that I ruined my team and that I

697
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 6: can't ruin my team.

698
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: It's name it's like the Tom Green corollarya or something

699
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,479
Speaker 1: like that. Caleb's wrong gellary, because like you look at

700
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: those guys and get off to a big.

701
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: Flyer and it's like, I'm going to miss out if

702
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: I'm not on.

703
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: But you think, like almost to the reverse of what

704
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: you were saying about Lucky Neil, It's like, if they're

705
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: going absolutely great guns, chances are is going to come down. Yeah,

706
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: Like in the case of Green, it sort of came

707
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: down in the middle of the season and then perk

708
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: back up where he sort of built it sort of

709
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: back up to a reasonable degree. And if like Luke

710
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: Ryan is another sort of one as well, right where

711
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: it's just like, ah, this is almost too good to believe.

712
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 3: Guess what it was.

713
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 2: It was so yeah, I need a name. It needs

714
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: a corollary.

715
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 5: It is a corollary if some homework for the preseason. Yeah,

716
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 5: I mean my lesson is very similar to that about

717
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 5: overpaying for players, and yeah, just when all those guys

718
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 5: just absolutely skyrocketed in price and you think I've got

719
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 5: to get them, got to get them, and you could

720
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 5: get someone for one hundred grand cheaper I or just

721
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 5: wait for their price to come down a bit, and

722
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 5: then it's just like I was going back through my trades,

723
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 5: thinking you're obviously holding trades.

724
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 4: That's the biggest lesson.

725
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 5: When it came to the last round, I wish I

726
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 5: still had a couple of boosts that I could have

727
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 5: still used at that stage. So next year I will

728
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 5: try and be a bit more conservative. I mean this,

729
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 5: hopefully we won't get a final sort of three or

730
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,239
Speaker 5: four weeks like that again where you're going to need

731
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 5: so many trades, but certainly would be handed to have

732
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 5: a couple extra. And it's just those luxury kind of moves,

733
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 5: like I traded Jack Steel to Zach Merritt with about

734
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 5: six weeks to go, and still you know, there.

735
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 4: Was worries did he have a bit of a knee

736
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 4: niggle or something going on?

737
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 5: But he finished the year quite fine, and I did

738
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 5: the maths on that merit out scored him by about

739
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 5: one hundred points over that time. But if I'd had

740
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 5: been able to use that trade, you know, get rid

741
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 5: of Charlie Kerno with three weeks to go and bring

742
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 5: in Dylan Moore or something, I would have ended up

743
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 5: two hundred and.

744
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 4: Fifty points ahead.

745
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 5: So but yeah, it's really hard to, as you say,

746
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 5: keep that long term perspective in mind, when you know,

747
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 5: in the heat of the moment. But yeah, maybe for

748
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 5: remembering how the wheels all fell off this year will

749
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 5: help me do that next time.

750
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: Nice one.

751
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: All right, before we start looking forward, the final top

752
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: six of each line, so defenders, mids rucks, and forwards.

753
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: Of course, how many did we get right do you

754
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: think heading into this year?

755
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I read the names were trying and run

756
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 5: through them reasonably quickly. But starting in the back line,

757
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 5: the top six in the end were Nick Deacos Luke,

758
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 5: Ryan Locky Whitfield I think maybe higher than we would

759
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 5: have thought, Harry Sheezel, Jacksonclair, and number six Nick Martin.

760
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 4: After all the chaos.

761
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: A roller coaster of the year, it was me and

762
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: Nick Martin, all the dizzying highs and the terrifying lows, and.

763
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 5: A couple of other names that I thought were interesting

764
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 5: that were fair way further down the list. Tom Stewart

765
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 5: finished seventeenth in the back line. That last Sam, Yeah,

766
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 5: the last round was a bit of a disaster for

767
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 5: Tom Stewart. Owners James Cecily was twenty sixth, and your

768
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 5: man Jaden Short finished number forty two.

769
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: I love that you had this in the notes as well.

770
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 2: It's a direct attack.

771
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: I don't even know if he missed the game, he

772
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: might have missed one of what are we doing Jayden

773
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: Short forty two?

774
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: I mean me talking myself into that.

775
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: I just I felt so good in that first round,

776
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: zero score. Now, absolutely no, everyone's gonna be like Geordie Short,

777
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: George Shots never ended up that way.

778
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 6: Lucky Whitfield really feels like the one that got away. Yeah,

779
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 6: you know, he came off. He's by at five hundred and.

780
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 4: One K when we're all paying up for Luke Ryan.

781
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I was super interested. I remember being like,

782
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 6: I'm really interested and sitting next to Tim Mitchell, who

783
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 6: was a week away from trading him out and could

784
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 6: not say worse things about that man if he tried.

785
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 6: And I just kind of again didn't back myself. And

786
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 6: you know, i'd certainly didn't expect him to finish third

787
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 6: overall for points. And you know, g W has had

788
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 6: some weird aberrations where everyone just missed in front of

789
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 6: go with them, so it's certainly not something that's probably

790
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 6: going to be replicated in a hurry. But yeah, he

791
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 6: was one I certainly didn't see finishing that high.

792
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 3: But yeah, again that's the value we should be looking.

793
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: For, right the mids.

794
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 5: Well, your man the Bond number one in the midfield

795
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 5: at number one overall in super Coach for twenty twenty four,

796
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 5: so it's two years in a row. Zach Barter's number two.

797
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 5: Then we had Caleb Sarong really on the back of

798
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 5: that very very strong starts of the year. Zach Merritt,

799
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 5: Lucky Neil came in number five, and Josh Dunkley. Adam

800
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 5: Trelaw was seven, and we go to eight in the

801
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 5: mits because we had eight primos on field.

802
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 4: Patrick Cripps the eighth best scoring midfielder.

803
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: True Law the absolute forgotten man of Superpriach as well.

804
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: All through the season he is like ownership level was

805
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: like terrifyingly low, and all he did was just deliver

806
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: time and time and time and time again, and we

807
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: always kind of just sort of overlooking him for the

808
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: simple fact of like, I don't know, it's not a

809
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: sexy pick, it's not a wildly exciting pick, but he

810
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 1: just scored points.

811
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: That's all he did.

812
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, if you told me at the start of the

813
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 6: year that Trelaw wasn't going to miss a game due

814
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 6: to injury or he missed one, then I probably would

815
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 6: have looked at him and gone, yeah, I can see

816
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 6: you finishing top fifteen, absolutely, top ten, yeah, I can

817
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 6: see it, you know, to finish seventh, I probably wouldn't

818
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 6: have picked that. But if anything, I feel like Josh

819
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 6: Dunkley is almost the more forgotten man than in the

820
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 6: Trelaw was a guy we looked at. How long can

821
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,959
Speaker 6: his hamstrings last? I just don't trust it. There's still

822
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 6: the lingering Bevo, the specter of Bevo over that bulldog side.

823
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 6: Dunkey was just just not looked at.

824
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 4: And we all know what just Dunky is.

825
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I know, you know, if Brisbane's buy hadn't

826
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 6: been so horrendous, then him and Crips probably would have

827
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 6: got a lot more love, would have got a lot

828
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 6: more people looking at them. But it kind of you know,

829
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 6: take out those starting picks and you know, the weird

830
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 6: monkey buyers in the middle of the year, just no

831
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 6: one went near him, and very few people went near

832
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 6: Crips as well.

833
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 3: Well.

834
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 5: That was sort of one of my lessons too from

835
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 5: the year that I think going into next season, if

836
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,479
Speaker 5: we have the same buy sort of round structure earlier

837
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 5: in the years. That'll probably try and consider a couple

838
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 5: more players from those early boys, because I did start

839
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 5: Tom Green even though GW always had a bye in

840
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 5: the first two or three rounds. And when you've got

841
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 5: best dating scoring, especially in those first rounds, when all

842
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 5: your rookies are playing, you can really get away with

843
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 5: having someone unavailable. And if you just imagine you'd had

844
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 5: Locky Nearl or Dunkley just sitting on your bench for

845
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 5: one week in round two and then you had him

846
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 5: for the whole rest of the season.

847
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 6: And yeah, in hindsight, that was something I was really

848
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 6: scared of. I know, you know, didn't want to have

849
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 6: too many players miss so I'd picked five players whatever

850
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 6: it was, from those first couple of weeks, and you know,

851
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 6: you miss Neil Dunkley, crips. I missed Hainey because of that.

852
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 6: You know, traded Hogan back out, didn't start Flanders because

853
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 6: of that, and.

854
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 4: Jeez, I mean it was defense. It was the first

855
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 4: time we'd really it was ever had to deal with this,

856
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 4: and we're.

857
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 5: All sort of spoked about how it would work. But yeah,

858
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 5: I think we can take that into next year. A

859
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 5: couple of their interesting names in the midfield. Elder You

860
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 5: finished tenth overall, even though he had a very slow

861
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 5: start to the year.

862
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 3: All those people traded him out. Yeah, I know he's bad.

863
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 5: We get rid of him and still finished eleventh. So again,

864
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 5: probably built on that very strong start. But if you

865
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 5: just hung on to him all year, but very respectable result.

866
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 5: Tom Green finished eighteenth overall for total points. So it

867
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 5: started you just think this is this is guy who

868
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 5: could be number one or number two in the mids.

869
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 5: He's ready to absolutely explode. But that said sort of

870
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 5: did at times.

871
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 6: But you know he had an average late scored five

872
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 6: points waits with a concussion. At one hundred and one

873
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 6: hundred and ninety five points to his total, he probably

874
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 6: pushes a bit further up.

875
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 3: I don't know how far off that's fair.

876
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 5: I mean Jordan Dawson I think missed a game or

877
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 5: two long the way to finish twenty eighth In the midfield.

878
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 4: Sam Welsh thirty sixth and number sixty.

879
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 5: Clayton Oliver, who, unlike those guys, I think he played

880
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 5: just about every game, didn't he?

881
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: Clary but well Y had an interrupted preseason.

882
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, could we ever imagine that he'd be still

883
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: bad by the end of it. Anyway, that was tough.

884
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: Liver at fifty six was a bit of a surprise

885
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: as well.

886
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, just that's Bevo.

887
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: It's kind of like the trill thing as well.

888
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: It's like I would have probably going into the seas

889
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: wont to trust the liver perhaps more.

890
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 5: I remember his exact ranking the year before, but he

891
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 5: was definitely top eight mid last year.

892
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: The Rucks run through quick Cherry.

893
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 5: So Cherry finished number one on total points is incredible, Yeah, amazing.

894
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 5: Started the year just over four hundred K, finished about

895
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 5: seven hundred. Yeah, so he'll be a great talking point

896
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 5: for the preseason whether we get him next year. So

897
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 5: Gorn was second on total points, just edged Cherry on averages.

898
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 5: After missing a game or two, he averaged one twenty

899
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 5: four points for the year.

900
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 4: Cherry averaged one twenty.

901
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 5: Then we had roll On Marshall, the number three finished

902
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 5: like an absolute steam train. Grundy came in fourth. That

903
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 5: met Darcy Cameron at five.

904
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: Which, speaking steam training, was fantastic.

905
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, he really was. I don't know anybody had him.

906
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 5: And then number six Tim English averaged one eight after

907
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 5: averaging one thirty, Yeah, twenty three, and.

908
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 4: It never really never happened for him.

909
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 5: There were two or three times during the year, even

910
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 5: when that Gorn injury happened or Nank got injured in

911
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 5: the last month or so, when people are like, oh,

912
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 5: English's value and he just never was never that Tim

913
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 5: English that we sort of thought he should be.

914
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 6: So which I think is in part also because they

915
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 6: changed the rock rules as well. Yeah, I think you're

916
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 6: which you know, is something that you know, we obviously

917
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 6: didn't have any data on how that was going to

918
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 6: work and how that was going to shape out, and

919
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 6: how impactful that was going to be on the type

920
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 6: of ruckman that was going to do well. So you know,

921
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 6: I don't think you'd be beating yourself up too much on

922
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 6: on that, And you couldn't really trade out English if

923
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 6: he's averaging nearly one hundred and ten, so tough.

924
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 3: It still hurts, But yeah, that's my hot take on the.

925
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: For the forwards.

926
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, number one Zorko Zorka, Well, I mean that's

927
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 5: one that we nobody picked at the start of the season.

928
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 5: I guess I wasn't even playing that role until Kitty

929
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 5: Common went down.

930
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: Isaac and idiot three.

931
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 3: And that's it. That's the forward coming everyone we had.

932
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 4: Number four was one of Dylan Moore.

933
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: Five was Luke Jackson averaging ninety five and Jike Colwell

934
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: sneaks in the top six, My beloved Jike Coldwell.

935
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 6: The Ji Caldwell that I looked at in round eight

936
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 6: and went nah, No, he's three and forty. Who would

937
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 6: do that at three hundred and something.

938
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: It is a horror stricken night near riddled wasteland.

939
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 2: That forward line, isn't it?

940
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

941
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: Because seventh you've got Jesse Hogan and his twinkle toes.

942
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: You've got Alex Neil Bullen a NB finished eight, what

943
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 1: are we doing here? Twenty four, Charlie twenty seven, Shype

944
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: Bolton forty three, Fisher and fifty three Isaac ranking number

945
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: five though, if you're talking averages when it comes to ranking,

946
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: so that's the sort of at least maybe this eving

947
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: grace for next year's like rankin if he stays healthy,

948
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: you're laughing, it's okay, but next year's going to be

949
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: pretty tough, I think for the fours as well.

950
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 5: When talked about ranking as a trade option in that

951
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 5: final month or so, when he came back.

952
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 4: I did make a passing reference to the fact that, you know,

953
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 4: should we be.

954
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 5: Worried about his durability, Like he's missed six out of

955
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 5: you know, sixteen games through injury or suspension, But then

956
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 5: you think, well four of those were you know, a

957
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 5: band from the tribunal, Like that's not really something that

958
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 5: you know is going to happen too often. But then

959
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 5: what do you know, straight away he gets knocked in

960
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 5: next week, so maybe there was something to it.

961
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 2: Nice one.

962
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: All right, Well that's the top six from each I

963
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 1: guess we have a trade period coming up this offseason.

964
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 2: Are there any names being.

965
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: Moved thought about that you think we'll actually have a

966
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: big super coach impact for next year up?

967
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think there definitely are.

968
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 5: I mean, Bailey Smith came out yesterday and said he

969
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 5: wanted to trade, no real surprise to anybody, didn't particularly

970
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 5: name a club, but I think we all expect you'll

971
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 5: end up at Geelong just because Gilan get all the

972
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 5: good players and he's going to be pretty discounted.

973
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 4: He wasn't.

974
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 5: He was I think about four undred and eighty k

975
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 5: to start this year, didn't play at all, so we

976
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 5: will get a discount on that probably four fifty or

977
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 5: even cheaper. Next year, hopefully will still be eligible to

978
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 5: be picked in the forward line, which should make him

979
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 5: probably one of the most popular picks. If he's like

980
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 5: he'll go straight into the Geelong midfield, assuming he's fit

981
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 5: to start Round one next year.

982
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: I like that.

983
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: Yep.

984
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: Obviously track was a big one that you know now

985
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: he's not moving anywhere, and I think he might end

986
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: up the president as well.

987
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 3: Maybe, yeah, yeah, it seems like.

988
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: The smartest thing they should do.

989
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 3: Haven't had a captain coach in a while.

990
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: And president why not exactly? I like this.

991
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: That would have been one of the interesting sort of names.

992
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: Anything else out there sort of kicking around that you're

993
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: keeping an eye on patch.

994
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 3: Oh so many names, my god.

995
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 6: I think the you know, if Hawthorne that looks out,

996
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 6: they're going to land Tom barrass and possibly Josh Battle

997
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 6: as well. If they do, James Cicily becomes a really

998
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 6: interesting option for me, not because I'm not looking at

999
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 6: those two, but if Cicely's that that loose third tall

1000
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 6: intercepting doing what he did when he was a genuine

1001
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 6: bona fide one ten plus primo, lock him in unless

1002
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 6: he looks like he's going to play forward and which

1003
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 6: I mean they've done this year in crucial moments, and

1004
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 6: he's actually yeah, as a match winning you know, Cal

1005
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 6: Hooker esque.

1006
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 3: What's the swing man? Swingman?

1007
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 6: No, like the like a show piece, a like one

1008
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 6: off Broadway hit. What's the cameo? That's the word I'm after?

1009
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 6: Patch word man.

1010
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 2: He's got big patch.

1011
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 6: But the you know obviously the Bulldogs, you know you

1012
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 6: mentioned Smith. But if Caleb Daniel and Jack McCrae either

1013
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 6: move on or get moved on, then wherever they land

1014
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 6: huge watch depending on the club.

1015
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 5: Now Daniel was under two hundred thousand dollars, yeah, and

1016
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 5: he we might have gone up a tony bit after

1017
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 5: that final round, but going into the last round's about

1018
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 5: hundred and ninety games.

1019
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he looked quite good in that round as well.

1020
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 6: He's scored more than Mason Wood. Did you know there's

1021
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 6: a couple of fringe players like a Dev Robertson or

1022
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 6: Friend McCrae if they end up at a West coast

1023
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 6: who I'm very interested in tracking the progress of. But

1024
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 6: the one I'm really looking at is friend of the

1025
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 6: show let dog you were going, he's it calls him

1026
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 6: the best player in the AFL because he's invested in

1027
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 6: him in every single draft league he's in. But he's

1028
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 6: also very good since round nineteen scored ninety three, one

1029
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 6: point thirty three, ninety six, one hundred forty, ninety seven

1030
00:43:58,960 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 6: and ninety nine.

1031
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 4: And who is this We're talking about.

1032
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 6: James Petling who was finished the year four hundred and

1033
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 6: ten ish K, So it could be four fifty k

1034
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 6: probably mid only, which there's a kick in the teeth,

1035
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 6: but one I'm watching very closely. Even if he doesn't

1036
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 6: leave and players like Perryman do. If he then you know,

1037
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 6: if he's got a role that sees him not as

1038
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 6: the sub throughout all of next year, you know, he's

1039
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 6: someone I'm really interested in.

1040
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: Dan Houston so finishes what eighth this year is the

1041
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: eighth defender? If if he land somewhere in Melbourne, like

1042
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 1: he is, you know, seemingly requested, sort of maybe walk

1043
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 1: that back a little bit as well, like I feel

1044
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: like Port is the best spot for his scoring. Yeah,

1045
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: if he goes somewhere like Carlvin probably takes a little

1046
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: bit of a hit. Maybe some of the other Melbourne

1047
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 1: teams out there kicking the tires on him, like maybe

1048
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: the Demons would actually be fine I think for his

1049
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: value super coach in terms of like his role. But

1050
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: I still feel like if he stays, I feel much

1051
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: more confident in Dan Houston for.

1052
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 2: Next year as well.

1053
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 3: Right.

1054
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 6: I think it will also depend on you know, where

1055
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 6: Port finished and his suspension, because you'll still have he

1056
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 6: could miss anything, miss the first three rounds if.

1057
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: They get knocked out this week.

1058
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 2: Interesting.

1059
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 6: If he does leave, though, then that's very interesting for

1060
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 6: like a Cane Farrell or a Josh seeing off half back.

1061
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 3: Or there's always so that's right there.

1062
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, your list is great that you're talking about plays

1063
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 5: who are moving and you know they might get more

1064
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 5: opportunity in a new club. But players moving out can

1065
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 5: also you know, the flow and effects for what it

1066
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 5: does for other guys can be something that can really

1067
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 5: help us.

1068
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: Just saying, Jid Walden next year, once the Curtis moves on,

1069
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: let's go Walden resurgence.

1070
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 2: I am all here.

1071
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 3: It's not there's not a it's just a surgeon.

1072
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: Is there's no I don't know that she loved that.

1073
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: I've got for that man. It's pretty chaotic.

1074
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: It's the classic AFL today one the jid Walden like

1075
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: as soon as he cut his hair just fell off

1076
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: a cliff.

1077
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 2: This year, ah, there'll be.

1078
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: So many more weird moves like the stuff like the

1079
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: Koshiest move and what that could mean for someone like

1080
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: the Gold Coast, and they'll be as you sort of mention, right,

1081
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: like the flow on effect. It's gonna be fascinating to see.

1082
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: So we'll be tracking that all the way through the

1083
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: off season as well. But ye, with that in mind,

1084
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: should we do another stats with al Al? Yeah, I

1085
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: think this will be the last one for the Folk. Yeah,

1086
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: we certainly for the twenty twenty four season.

1087
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: Stats with L featuring El. So.

1088
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 5: I've got a list here of the players who were

1089
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 5: traded the most over the course of the Super Coach season.

1090
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 5: Just a bit of a trip down memory lane and

1091
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 5: if we've got some nice little music we can play

1092
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 5: in the background. But the most traded in player for

1093
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 5: the season was Sam Closely remember him?

1094
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 3: Sam Close traded.

1095
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 5: In by one hundred and eleven thousand Super Coach players.

1096
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 5: And number two is Will Graham actually another Gold Coast son,

1097
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 5: and your man you mentioned Emilia Massimo Ambrosio at number

1098
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 5: three ninety three nearly ninety four thousand trades when he

1099
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 5: was on the bubble, when that proved to be a

1100
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 5: great move. And yeah he's been bene fans to pick

1101
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 5: up for the Hawks. One of many down there some

1102
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 5: other names on that list.

1103
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 3: You could club let him go with a future fourth

1104
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 3: round anyway.

1105
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 4: That just might bring back some memories for the season.

1106
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 4: Traded in.

1107
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 5: Hugo Garcia was number five on that list, Isaac Heeney

1108
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 5: obviously very popular. Billy Dowling was a favorite there for

1109
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 5: a little while, Jordan's sweet, just great memories, and Will

1110
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 5: Dawson with the one l one of the great supercoach stories.

1111
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 2: He's still on my bench.

1112
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 4: Yeah he finished that.

1113
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 6: Still he'll be on your He'll be locked on your

1114
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 6: bench like the start of next season.

1115
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 5: So it came in on the bubble, might have been

1116
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 5: over the by so made him very popular. Pick I

1117
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 5: think he was in a rookie price and then got

1118
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 5: did he get Cancustle got injured shoulder injury might have

1119
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 5: been in the opening minutes of his bubble game, scored

1120
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 5: zero and was.

1121
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 4: Never seen again.

1122
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 5: The most traded out so kolbe Mkirche was the most

1123
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 5: traded out player one hundred and seven thousand trades.

1124
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 6: Ninety those were me, so that that's an outlier and

1125
00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 6: shouldn't be.

1126
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 5: I was going to say, I don't have specific stats

1127
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 5: on whether there's some people who appear twice on that

1128
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 5: list who traded him out in and out.

1129
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 3: More than twice.

1130
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Riley Sanders was number two, remember him. We all

1131
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 4: started Riley Sanders, we did, and then he got bevoed

1132
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 4: and everyone traded him out. Alex Sexton number three. Bit

1133
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 4: of the mckurchs about him as well. Other names that

1134
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 4: we might remember, loved and lost in Supercoach, Blake Howe's

1135
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 4: what a great starting pick he was from the Demon.

1136
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 4: Zach Williams. Oh, they sure.

1137
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 3: Was a starting pick, that's for sure.

1138
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 4: Harley Reed was good for a while.

1139
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 5: I think it's got ABO one hundred and twenty after

1140
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 5: we all trade him closely again, got trade in and

1141
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 5: traded out and the most tenth most traded out played

1142
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 5: for the year, Zach Fisher.

1143
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 4: A lot of people did it early, then some people

1144
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 4: did it should.

1145
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 3: Have been higher. He should have been higher.

1146
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: That's crazy that he's actually tenth quick fire around.

1147
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: Are there any new names on your never Again list?

1148
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 3: Patch.

1149
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 6: I think this year has made me just not have

1150
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 6: an never again list. I just don't think it's healthy

1151
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 6: or good for the soul or good to come into

1152
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 6: a season ago here is a list of players I

1153
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 6: can never pick, and you're limiting your options, and I

1154
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 6: just think that's really unhealthy.

1155
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 3: That said, Zach Fisher is at the top of my

1156
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 3: never again list.

1157
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 2: I think it's healthy to set boundaries. That's what it's about,

1158
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 2: boundaries for yourself.

1159
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 3: My boundary is Zach Fisher. That's good.

1160
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 2: Zach Williams, we just mentioned him. I'm just I'm out

1161
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: on the Zack Williams experience.

1162
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: It's a small forward now exactly every week you just go, oh, well,

1163
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: this is the week the hammy goes again.

1164
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 2: Great.

1165
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: The other one for me was Darcy Parrish. I had

1166
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: him draft and I think he was out and just

1167
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: you can't ever sort of trust what's gonna happen with

1168
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: his body as well, because I think you look at

1169
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: Ridley and Martin as well, like they've sort of had

1170
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: those similar kind of like problems here and there in

1171
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: terms of like health problems, and you're just like, I

1172
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 1: don't know which one's gonna be playing this week.

1173
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: We don't know, and Powerrish always is the ones that

1174
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: have fell by the wayside for me and.

1175
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 5: For some reason. Yeah, Patch probably knows this better than anyone,

1176
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 5: But I don't know. Does he get moved out of

1177
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 5: the midfield there or he.

1178
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 3: Can't play anywhere else?

1179
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 6: And we've signed him for three school yiar dollars for

1180
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 6: twenty seven years, so we're going to trade out Hobbs

1181
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 6: and Sardis and all these young guys that it could

1182
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 6: be anything. They could even be Darcy Parish like I. Yeah,

1183
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 6: I I Parish is someone I'll be watching next year.

1184
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 6: Probably not super high on the watch list, but yeah

1185
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 6: he'll be Yeah, he'll be value, he'll be worth considering.

1186
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 6: But I also understand why people don't like him or

1187
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 6: don't want to pick him and don't want to see

1188
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 6: him ever. Again shout out to my dad, who is

1189
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 6: one of those people.

1190
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 4: A couple of names you mentioned there too talking about

1191
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 4: that trade discussion. If a Sadus or a Hobbes a

1192
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 4: little better like.

1193
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 3: Rich Richmond, oh, locker cheap and lock him in.

1194
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, Olga, I agree with Patch.

1195
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's probably you know, you wouldn't go into the

1196
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 5: year thinking I'm just never going to touch certain players

1197
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 5: because things can change. But yeah, Charlie, there's always a

1198
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 5: b as for reasons mentioned, it checks out.

1199
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 2: It breaks my heart.

1200
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: I want to throw him on there as well, but

1201
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm not going to actually say that I won't because

1202
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: next year he just might be healthy and then have

1203
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: a run home like that.

1204
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 6: Cheap, very cheap, I feel like. I feel like it

1205
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 6: also is left unsaid. Mason Wood doesn't need to.

1206
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 3: Be on the list. He'd never be considered by any

1207
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:29,439
Speaker 3: rational human being.

1208
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: So nice one, right, Well, how about instead of never again,

1209
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: what about the flip side of that, who will be

1210
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 1: the first name into your team?

1211
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 6: You mean the player that you're never going to not

1212
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 6: pick ever again, exact of your life.

1213
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: I'm always going to pick them forever. What do we think?

1214
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I think we'd be very hard to go

1215
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 5: without the Bonds, Bails Smith if he's fit and lobs

1216
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 5: at a team like Geelong. But the guy I've got

1217
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 5: down is he mentioned not touching any Tigers. But I

1218
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 5: think the exception is going to be these cheap guys.

1219
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got it.

1220
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 3: Sorry, Jane, just had to do it to you and

1221
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 3: to the.

1222
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: Ribs, to the ribs, that one it's all over.

1223
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 3: Would you like me to jump here?

1224
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 2: I actually want to know who this is going.

1225
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 6: To be, So I think Nick Daekos is probably the one.

1226
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 6: It's a very boring answer, but you know, he looks

1227
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 6: like a very good footballer and will be for a

1228
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 6: very long time, so I think he's the one.

1229
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 5: I will people played some funny games this year, but

1230
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 5: we won't pick him and get him after the bye,

1231
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 5: and it sort of worked for in some ways.

1232
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 4: But I think you just worry about any.

1233
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 6: The safest option is to not play silly buggers with

1234
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 6: it and just bring him in and he'll everyone will

1235
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 6: dip in price if you can time it, sure, but

1236
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 6: if you're missing seven hundred points in five rounds to

1237
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 6: get it, then yeah, I don't know.

1238
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1239
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: So in round four, Decos was five hundred and sixty

1240
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: six thousand. He dropped from the six to fifty k

1241
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: it's not there. He was then fifty seven five seventy seven.

1242
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: The week after when he ripped off one thirty three

1243
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: and then ripped off one twenty eight one fifty one

1244
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: forty seven.

1245
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 2: And was back over six fifty. So there's like a

1246
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 2: very very short window.

1247
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 3: The window is so Swell.

1248
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: You could have gotten him and gone, aha, I'm smarter

1249
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 1: than everybody. I got him for like eighty or seventy

1250
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,439
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars less than.

1251
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 6: He was, and there were people that did time and

1252
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 6: it was around the bias. It worked perfectly for those people.

1253
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 6: I don't back myself to bring him in and also

1254
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,240
Speaker 6: not have other issues that need fixing.

1255
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, trying to plan that move, you know, five six

1256
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 5: weeks out.

1257
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's for what was real tough.

1258
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 4: So just GiB because he's the man.

1259
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 5: I was going to mention if he's fit again after

1260
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 5: another season, any injury.

1261
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 3: Should be he spelled Jaden Shore probably about.

1262
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 5: Hopefully maybe even down to the one twenty three K range.

1263
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 5: You expect Richmond will see plenty of four in their

1264
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 5: defense next year, and they'll play a heap of kids,

1265
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 5: maybe you know, some of those sort of Mestening types

1266
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 5: or just whoever they get in the draft. I think

1267
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 5: they'll all be getting games at Richmond next year.

1268
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: Last one, well, my back m in on first pick.

1269
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: It's Nick Martin and hat and Young. I'm not gonna

1270
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: make the same mistake twice.

1271
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 5: Ah.

1272
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: I mentioned this earlier.

1273
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 1: Jason horn Francis I think that's like the early pick

1274
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: for me, just in my brain going third year, fourth

1275
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: year bloke, third year, third year.

1276
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 6: The years of have started coming and they're simply not

1277
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 6: stopping exactly.

1278
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: And he goes into this year. He looked awesome at times.

1279
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: This year had some big, big scores, and I think

1280
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: consistency just comes with familiarity, and off he goes, and

1281
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: I think next year will be really big one. So

1282
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: he'll probably one of the first ones in for mine

1283
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: as a bit of a pod, and who knows by

1284
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: that point, depending on his starting price, he might not

1285
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: be that much of a pod. A captain call out,

1286
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: So captain's call. We did this each week. We didn't

1287
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: do great on some of these captain's calls. We did

1288
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: have pig mentality who was the king of the captains

1289
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: jump on later in the year. But you went to

1290
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: the source and found out who scored the most one

1291
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty plus scoring games.

1292
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 5: So yeah, just if you just locked the captain in

1293
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 5: on these guys, you know, would have been that the

1294
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 5: smartest way to go about it, apart from all the

1295
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 5: sort of twists and turns that we try and come

1296
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 5: up with each week. But Marcus Bontonpelli. No surprise, thirteen

1297
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 5: one to twenty plus scores for the year was the

1298
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 5: most of any.

1299
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 2: Player thirteen times. You just like bank done.

1300
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's awesome, and I mean I think another half

1301
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 5: dozen would have been pretty close to that as well.

1302
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 5: As you said, only missed the turn once or twice

1303
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 5: for the year. Zach Butters did it twelve times, Decos

1304
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 5: and Zach Merritt eleven times, and then a bunch of

1305
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 5: guys on ten Gorn, Lucky, Neil, Harry, Shecheesel Traure.

1306
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 4: Luke, Ryan and Nowhere Innocent Wow every time.

1307
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.

1308
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 6: Interestingly though for somebody that dropped below one hundred once.

1309
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 6: Sam Flanders is not on the list.

1310
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 5: So yeah, the only top that one twenty mark maybe

1311
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 5: three or four times, I think. Yeah, you've certainly finished

1312
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 5: with a wet sale.

1313
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, and certainly a brilliant backup if you've got to Yeah.

1314
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 2: Safe, he just fails, you just go.

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Speaker 5: I'll just I mean something we haven't touched on here,

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Speaker 5: but we probably will if we do some more. You know,

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Speaker 5: we will be doing some more pre season type shows.

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Speaker 5: He's looking at positions and DPPs and things coming to

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Speaker 5: next year and Flanders is definitely.

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Speaker 4: One to watch because it meant when he was a

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Speaker 4: forward mid.

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Speaker 5: This year, it's been a lot of year in defense,

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Speaker 5: so next year he might be a defender or deaf mid,

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Speaker 5: but then he actually finished the year in the forward line.

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Speaker 4: So next year TPP, Yeah, tpp, let's do it go. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: We'll keep an eye on those as they hopefully come out.

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Speaker 5: Maybe we'll get a little teaser before before the official

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Speaker 5: names are released.

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Speaker 2: Nice one.

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00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 3: Anyway, the only call I care about is the head

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00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 3: to head calls.

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Speaker 1: The head to head that we ran all season, James

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00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: versus Al This was a I got that to a

1334
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: flyer and then you just dragged me inexorably.

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Speaker 2: Back in ol. But I still be down eleven seven

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Speaker 2: to one.

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00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: We had a draw which I think we gave the patch. Yes,

1338
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: I did get the patch, got one on the board,

1339
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:56,479
Speaker 1: which is good.

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Speaker 6: We love a draw here at the Official Supercatch Podcast, because.

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00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: We did have a couple of weeks where it was

1342
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: like between yourself, patch yourself to him and then it

1343
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: was just you and I basically mano mano the rest

1344
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: of the way. So eleven seven to one to me,

1345
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: it's the only thing I won this year. I think jeez,

1346
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: because it was so.

1347
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 6: That's the only thing that matters, to be honest, that's

1348
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 6: the only thing that anyone can.

1349
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Speaker 2: I think he owns it. Owes me a sandwich. Now

1350
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 2: that's out roles.

1351
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 6: So yeah, I don't know if we came up with

1352
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 6: a prize but or a punishment.

1353
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 2: There you go.

1354
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: But I think the final sort of actual head to

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00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: head was like you versus Phantom really in the overall standard, Yeah,

1356
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: they didn't go well, Phantom sort of might have gotten

1357
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: you there, yes, but there you go.

1358
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 2: Was there anything else you mentioned?

1359
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 4: The phantoms of their podcast? I think that is discussed extensively.

1360
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 5: But yeah, worth to listen to those guys wrapping up

1361
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 5: the year, and as you say, getting drove in the

1362
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 5: overall winner was on there revealed some of his secrets

1363
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 5: and here we got it. So that's worth listening to.

1364
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 5: But the other thing I wanted to didn't want to

1365
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 5: leave here without picking your brain James as a basketball

1366
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 5: expert is tell us who we should be picking in

1367
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 5: Super Coach NBL, which kicks off in about ten days time.

1368
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 5: Great game if you're a footy fan who doesn't know

1369
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 5: he's about basketball, which is certainly camp.

1370
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 4: I would put myself in.

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00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 5: I played last year in that exact circumstance and just

1372
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 5: had a lot of fun. It's probably a bit of

1373
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 5: a lighter version of Super Coach, only picking ten players.

1374
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 5: Bench scores actually count, which is a great little innovation

1375
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 5: in this format and obviously free to play and easy

1376
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 5: to do.

1377
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 4: But who are the names we need to be thinking

1378
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 4: about this year?

1379
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: James So, I was actually at the MBO Blitz on

1380
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: Sunday on the Gold Ghost, which is fantastic. I got

1381
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: to see what four teams. That's the best thing about

1382
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: the Blitz and my preseason action. They sort of do

1383
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: these double headers, which is great, so you see four

1384
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: teams in a very short amount of time. So we

1385
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: wanted to see Perth, New Zealand. Bryce Cotton is obviously

1386
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: your first pick essentially if you want to be he's

1387
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: your BoNT of basically, pay up, You've got Bryce Scotton.

1388
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 2: You're laughing. Outside of that, I really like count Opin.

1389
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: He's like they're solid, sort of big Perth big man

1390
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: and it was pretty good last year and I think

1391
00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: he is just an absolute weapon.

1392
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 2: We Understan and that the breakers. I'm sort of weary

1393
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 2: pretty much that entire team and the other teams that

1394
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 2: we saw.

1395
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 3: With the Richmond of the NBL, they might be at

1396
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 3: this point.

1397
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: The other ones where the Southeast Melbourne Magic Phoenix as

1398
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: I like to call them, soby is an interesting sort

1399
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: of question there they feel very almost a little bit

1400
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: too egalitarian. And the other one was Ilara playing against them.

1401
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: Lucky olbrit He is I've heard that name absolutely first

1402
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,479
Speaker 1: pick in any team. He is just ready and wearing

1403
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: for a breakout season. He looks awesome price at one

1404
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty one four hundred. You can play

1405
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: him as your back up forward or as a backup center,

1406
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: I think, which is very very handy.

1407
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: Very cool.

1408
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: Outside of that, there's a lot of really good, important

1409
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: names that are very up in the air, I think,

1410
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: and that's why Blitz heading into the opening round, which

1411
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: is hoops Fest over in Perth, is going to be

1412
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: really really important. So you better be playing a lot

1413
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: of attention to Blitz this week.

1414
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 5: Just published a story today on there with all the

1415
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 5: scores from the Blitz games and where we are dating

1416
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 5: that over the course of the week's sea.

1417
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: So I've just kicked the tires on my first one.

1418
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: David Cooks, Jack White came, Oliver Parker, Jackson cart Right,

1419
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: who I saw obviously play on the weekend. He had

1420
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: a bit of a quiet game from what I saw,

1421
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: but I think he's still a weapon. So he's at

1422
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: four and twenty one. There's probably some other better options

1423
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: from what I just saw. And Adelaide's other sort of

1424
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: import was Kendrick Davis to seventy seven. So you've got

1425
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: Rocket Zakaski, I've got Ben Henschell, Eli Pepper as well.

1426
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 2: Henschell looks awesome. Pepper.

1427
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: I don't know about that one, Olbrick as I mentioned,

1428
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: and our man Tyler Robertson for the King. So I

1429
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: can't wait for MBA. I don't know if you can tell,

1430
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: but I'm aw bored. It was awesome being up there

1431
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: on Sunday, and I can't wait for the rest of

1432
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: this week to sort of play out, get more eyeballs

1433
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: on some of these players, and you can follow along

1434
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: with the NBA dot Com dot you checking it all

1435
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: out and obviously goat sports. There's plenty of stuff there.

1436
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: So yep, that's it. I think that's it for the

1437
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: AFL season. Rap there will be more things going off

1438
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: during the off season, so make sure you keep your

1439
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: eyes peeled for superco content through throughout the off season

1440
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: before Team Picker opens again in Christmas.

1441
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 3: It's super Coach Christmas unbelievable.

1442
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: And of course we do have NBL and BBL Super

1443
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: Coach coming up as well to get it through the summer,

1444
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: which is awesome, huge, so I can't wait for that.

1445
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: Make sure you get around all things Code Sports for

1446
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: all the latest Super Coach news and analysis.

1447
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 2: All the good stuff is always there.

1448
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: And if you haven't already rate review this show Apple, Spotify,

1449
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Speaker 1: subscribe to Code Sports and YouTube. You can see that.

1450
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: Do the little bell thing. You'll get a notification every

1451
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: time a new episode drops.

1452
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 2: Did you know that?

1453
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 4: I knew that is a thing on YouTube you to

1454
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 4: click on that.

1455
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 5: It's a good time to do it, because yeah, like

1456
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 5: you said, we might just drop on in the middle

1457
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 5: of the trade period or something like that and hang.

1458
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 2: On a second. Super Coach let's go.

1459
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: So for all the latest and fun AFL gears. I'll

1460
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: get around the AFL Today show. We're doing lots of

1461
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: stuff for finals all jez.

1462
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 2: But that's it. What a season. It was disappointing for me,

1463
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 2: but for you, gentlemen.

1464
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 3: It certainly was a season.

1465
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 6: It was the seasonist season we've had in a while.

1466
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 1: The dizzy HIH's, the creamy middles, the terrifying Nick Martin Lows.

1467
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 6: Thank you to Patch, thank you to James, thank you

1468
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 6: to everyone that's listened. Thank you to everyone that's been

1469
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 6: on the show.

1470
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 3: As a guest. Yes, this year it's been a hoot.

1471
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 6: Coming out of retirement and being draid, kicking and screaming

1472
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 6: back into the beautiful game of super coach.

1473
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 3: I love it.

1474
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 2: Thank you to the guru, El Peyton.

1475
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 4: Thank you gentlemen. Yep, it's been an absolute pleasure.

1476
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 5: And yeah, looking forward to starting to think about who

1477
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 5: are going to pick in twenty twenty five.

1478
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 2: Can't wait.

1479
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: Thanks to all the coaches who have chimed in, all

1480
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: the comments, all the suggestions, everything on Twitter has been

1481
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 1: absolutely fantastic. I can't wait to have another crack next season.

1482
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 1: I'm just like the NBA will just sort of sake

1483
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: that need and then we'll be back and digging in

1484
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: next year, getting a way all right. Until then, I've

1485
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: been James Clement's happy super coat