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Speaker 1: there's like 15 poos on there. Fuck, you track every shit.

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Speaker 1: 2026 at 5.50am, I did a floater. Like why, why

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Speaker 2: Jake and Artie, the Relatable Party.

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Speaker 1: Relatable.

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Speaker 2: The Relatables podcast is hosted by myself, Artie Clark, a.k.a.

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Speaker 1: My man.

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Speaker 2: And my partner in crime, Mr. Jake Craig, a.k.a. Daddy Dingle.

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Speaker 1: That's me, Daddy Dingle, full through and through. I've just

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Speaker 2: You didn't see it, then the baddies came up with

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Speaker 2: a good name for me.

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Speaker 1: Really? What is it?

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Speaker 2: Mummy Marketplace.

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Speaker 1: That's hectic. that's actually hectic mummy marketplace is really good

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Speaker 2: Got daddy dingle and mummy marketplace and i'm like i

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Speaker 2: saw it whoever commented sorry i didn't get your name

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Speaker 2: that's a good name for me to.

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Speaker 1: Be that is i'm a winner.

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Speaker 2: I've got an addiction i'm gonna own it holy shit

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Speaker 2: um i guess mm for short yeah and you're a

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Speaker 1: I just call me Double Ds. We'll do that in

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Speaker 1: a live show.

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Speaker 2: But today we wanted to start with kicking things off

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Speaker 2: hot with the IG question of the week, which was,

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Speaker 2: what's something you thought was normal because you dated someone toxic?

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Speaker 2: Before we get into it, Jake, have you got anything

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, I think one that I was

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Speaker 2: Ooh, that's a good one.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I used to think like, you know, love is hard.

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Speaker 1: It's supposed to be, it's supposed to be hard, but

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Speaker 1: No, that's the thing. It's weird. Like, maybe it can be, like,

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Speaker 2: I think there can be hard times and I hope

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Speaker 2: All right, you want me to kick things off?

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Speaker 1: Asexual means you don't like.

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Speaker 1: No, I feel like it's bit disgusting this came across

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Speaker 2: Below baddies hey do you want your partner to be

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Speaker 2: Fucking crazy i feel like they might fart to make

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Speaker 1: They answer with a fart.

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Speaker 2: So make Jake feel normal.

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Speaker 1: Just fart. No, fuck. If they think it's not funny,

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Speaker 2: What's something you thought was normal because you dated someone toxic?

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Speaker 2: Paying everything 50-50 no matter the occasion or our incomes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Fuck. I just feel like it's such an effort

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Speaker 2: It definitely should be like sort of even, but like dates.

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Speaker 4: To me.

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Speaker 1: Mate, honestly, I reckon we actually should agree on a threshold.

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Speaker 1: Unless you've been taking the piss for a while and

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Speaker 1: of groceries you had to get. Like, don't transfer me $ 8, eh?

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Speaker 2: I honestly think, I'm pretty sure that's what it was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just your card didn't work.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, there's money in our Westpac account.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I'll just pay that quickly. I would say.

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Speaker 1: And also, you know I'm not looking at statements, so

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Speaker 2: I feel, I have too much guilt though too. Oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh, I have to transfer him like just to like,

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Speaker 2: so it's off my mind.

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Speaker 1: That's fair. To be honest, like I do it as well. And,

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Speaker 1: but I can't think of a time when I've done

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Speaker 2: It is funny how we're like two friends and we

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Speaker 2: We haven't had any quarrels about it ever.

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Speaker 1: Nah, I mean, as far as I know, it's just

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Speaker 1: Them knowing my every move as well as knowing who

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Speaker 2: Yeah. What's something you thought was normal because you dated

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Speaker 2: No kissing outside of sex.

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Speaker 1: That's so weird. That's so weird. Imagine that. That's so weird.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's valid. I think that would be valid. What

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Speaker 2: Oh, that would be relatable, hey? And you kind of

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Speaker 1: Let it go. Buying my partner something to justify buying

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Speaker 2: We do that in our relationship because we share the

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Speaker 1: That's so true. We're just like fucking here on this

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Speaker 1: the Bristol stool chart. You know what that is? No.

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Speaker 2: I haven't.

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Speaker 1: I've always been five to seven. The last three days

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Speaker 1: She said the same thing to me, right? Shout out

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Speaker 1: Adore Naturopathy, Caitlin. She lives in Brisbane. You can do

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Speaker 1: it online if you want. But the... Look, this is

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Speaker 1: I've been tracking every shit. I just want to track

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Speaker 2: All right, mate, business idea. I know we're not talking

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Speaker 2: about the bed divider today. You know how- Shouldn't use

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Speaker 1: Yes, I do.

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Speaker 2: We should make an app that tracks your shits.

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Speaker 1: Genuinely thought about this and I went and looked up

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Speaker 1: one on the app store, none of them tickled my fancy.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, fuck it. I'm going to go

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Speaker 1: can you organize this for my naturopath, please?

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Speaker 2: To be fair, I'm 100% behind notes over different apps sometimes.

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Speaker 2: Is this the simplicity of it and dealing with it

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Speaker 1: So, so much easier. Look, I wrote here. Oh my God. Wait,

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Speaker 1: And then I wrote, The fifth one was at 2.12 p.m.

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: So, quick. Anyway, the last one was at 2.12 p.m. Wrote,

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Speaker 2: Oh, mate, you should write a book about this stuff, hey?

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'd get a good gig about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, this is fucking... And then, like, sometimes I

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Speaker 1: My fiber's up, brother. Do you notice anything different about

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Speaker 1: us today, Baddies? If you're only listening. Yeah. I feel

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Speaker 1: it is. Oi. Our friend, Jai, right? Yeah. Did a

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You need to stop out angling everyone you take photos with, eh?

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Speaker 1: This guy. So, you and I are at his house

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Speaker 1: we also look broader than him which we aren't Well,

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00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,439
Speaker 1: he played in the NRL. That's a good point. And

440
00:19:39,460 --> 00:19:41,020
Speaker 1: he told me the other day he swims like three

441
00:19:41,060 --> 00:19:41,520
Speaker 1: times a week.

442
00:19:41,580 --> 00:19:42,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't picture that.

443
00:19:42,770 --> 00:19:45,630
Speaker 1: I was like, mate, you're getting shoulders up, mate. But

444
00:19:45,670 --> 00:19:49,030
Speaker 1: all right, baddies. Sorry, you didn't even get a time

445
00:19:49,050 --> 00:19:51,500
Speaker 1: to answer our question. Do you notice anything different about us?

446
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:58,159
Speaker 1: We're in different countries. Hell fucking yes, we are. So,

447
00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:58,899
Speaker 1: Odi's in Bali.

448
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,030
Speaker 2: I'm in my favorite place, correct, in a brand new set.

449
00:20:02,369 --> 00:20:05,709
Speaker 2: And hopefully you didn't notice at the start. But it's

450
00:20:05,730 --> 00:20:08,050
Speaker 2: actually a great set. It's all the same gear that

451
00:20:08,070 --> 00:20:11,090
Speaker 2: we have where Jake is. He's in Bali as well.

452
00:20:11,130 --> 00:20:13,470
Speaker 2: Hired it for, I'm here for about two and a half,

453
00:20:13,490 --> 00:20:16,530
Speaker 2: three more weeks. So we've got a couple episodes virtually.

454
00:20:16,730 --> 00:20:19,470
Speaker 2: Hopefully it's nice and fun. And I think it should

455
00:20:19,490 --> 00:20:21,100
Speaker 2: be because the content and what we're doing in our

456
00:20:21,140 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 2: lives is so different. So it should just be a

457
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,300
Speaker 2: bit loosey-goosey, something different for you. Funnily enough, you brought

458
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,900
Speaker 2: up our friend at the start, Joy. I was chatting

459
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,060
Speaker 2: to him the other day as well. And made me

460
00:20:32,180 --> 00:20:35,719
Speaker 2: have a bit of an epiphany. So he's just had

461
00:20:35,740 --> 00:20:39,260
Speaker 2: a child. And a lot of our old friends, I

462
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,260
Speaker 2: wouldn't call them our friends anymore, haven't made the effort

463
00:20:42,300 --> 00:20:46,260
Speaker 2: to go see... Maybe I shouldn't... Should I use their names?

464
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:46,859
Speaker 2: Do you reckon it matters?

465
00:20:47,060 --> 00:20:47,780
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can bleep them.

466
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,140
Speaker 2: Let's talk shit about some blue.

467
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,220
Speaker 1: You can bleep them. So, yes.

468
00:20:51,930 --> 00:20:54,110
Speaker 2: So, our friends just had a kid and our friends

469
00:20:54,150 --> 00:20:56,290
Speaker 2: haven't gone to go see them and make the effort

470
00:20:56,310 --> 00:20:57,150
Speaker 2: to see their child, right?

471
00:20:57,369 --> 00:20:57,550
Speaker 1: Yeah.

472
00:20:57,609 --> 00:21:00,590
Speaker 2: And he was voice messaging me about it. And he

473
00:21:00,609 --> 00:21:06,130
Speaker 2: was struggling to basically realize that they were shit blokes.

474
00:21:06,770 --> 00:21:08,130
Speaker 2: Because they're nice guys.

475
00:21:08,530 --> 00:21:08,930
Speaker 1: Right?

476
00:21:09,470 --> 00:21:11,790
Speaker 2: So, all of our old friends are like really like,

477
00:21:12,750 --> 00:21:15,590
Speaker 2: you could argue they're really nice people. Yeah. But then

478
00:21:15,609 --> 00:21:18,010
Speaker 2: a lot of their actions, which I think depicts a

479
00:21:18,050 --> 00:21:20,990
Speaker 2: lot of men as well, really make them, they don't

480
00:21:21,010 --> 00:21:23,010
Speaker 2: put any effort in. They're terrible at communicating. They don't

481
00:21:23,050 --> 00:21:25,950
Speaker 2: do anything. Make them shit blokes. But making that distinct

482
00:21:26,030 --> 00:21:28,450
Speaker 2: difference is hard for anyone because they're actually nice people.

483
00:21:28,910 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 2: Like just with surface level shit. Does that make sense?

484
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,620
Speaker 1: It's just hard to accept.

485
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:35,219
Speaker 3: Yeah.

486
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

487
00:21:35,750 --> 00:21:37,030
Speaker 2: And then he's like, oh yeah, I don't know what

488
00:21:37,050 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 2: to do. I was like, bro, say something to him.

489
00:21:38,510 --> 00:21:40,169
Speaker 2: Like one of them like organized to hang out and

490
00:21:40,190 --> 00:21:41,780
Speaker 2: see his kid and then he just didn't reply to

491
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:42,460
Speaker 2: him till the time.

492
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:42,959
Speaker 1: Oh, sorry, bro.

493
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,619
Speaker 2: I can come in like an hour. I was like, mate,

494
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 2: you got a fucking child. Go see your best, old

495
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:47,160
Speaker 2: best mate.

496
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 1: Dude, it's actually, that is a tough one. I guess

497
00:21:49,340 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: it's like, so if our particular friend, so if our

498
00:21:53,619 --> 00:21:57,010
Speaker 1: friend that wants, that's struggling to maybe accept or something

499
00:21:57,030 --> 00:22:00,369
Speaker 1: that they're being shitty friends, if he wants to stay

500
00:22:00,430 --> 00:22:02,790
Speaker 1: friends with them, then I think that he has to

501
00:22:02,810 --> 00:22:05,869
Speaker 1: say something. He has to say like, That makes me

502
00:22:05,890 --> 00:22:06,430
Speaker 1: feel like shit.

503
00:22:06,550 --> 00:22:07,609
Speaker 2: Yeah.

504
00:22:07,670 --> 00:22:09,670
Speaker 1: And then balls in their court.

505
00:22:09,670 --> 00:22:09,710
Speaker 3: 100%.

506
00:22:09,710 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 2: But those guys wouldn't do anything with that anyway. But

507
00:22:11,780 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 2: it's also, I feel like that's a massive depiction of

508
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 2: a lot of women in relationships. Like, surface level, these

509
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 2: guys are probably okay.

510
00:22:16,820 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: They're nice. They mean well.

511
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,719
Speaker 2: But then when they get deepened down to the shit

512
00:22:19,740 --> 00:22:23,020
Speaker 2: that actually matters with, like, talking about their feelings, being there,

513
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,870
Speaker 2: being there emotionally to support their partner.

514
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:25,310
Speaker 3: Yeah.

515
00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:28,070
Speaker 2: They're just, like, not there, but making that distinct difference of, like,

516
00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:30,010
Speaker 2: that is hard because they're sort of nice.

517
00:22:31,450 --> 00:22:34,230
Speaker 1: Fuck, bro. That's actually such a good point. Dang, I

518
00:22:34,250 --> 00:22:35,110
Speaker 1: feel bad for our friend.

519
00:22:35,450 --> 00:22:37,950
Speaker 2: Oh, so do I. And I feel like predominantly like

520
00:22:38,030 --> 00:22:39,859
Speaker 2: most men fall into that category.

521
00:22:40,150 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 1: I wonder how he's feeling. I wouldn't mind actually asking him.

522
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind talking to him about it because like

523
00:22:45,859 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: I've been reading this book where it talks a lot

524
00:22:48,340 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: about patriarchy and stuff and it talks about how. And

525
00:22:52,100 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: we've spoken about this a bunch, right? Men literally can't

526
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,810
Speaker 1: even begin to understand their feelings all that well. Yeah.

527
00:23:02,230 --> 00:23:04,230
Speaker 1: Unless it's, of course, silence or anger. We're just like

528
00:23:04,250 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: really good at them. And so he probably feels very

529
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,820
Speaker 1: angry about it because like, that's just where, that's just

530
00:23:11,859 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: where it goes. Like I would be the same thinking

531
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,380
Speaker 1: about it. Right. I feel angry for him.

532
00:23:16,980 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

533
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,659
Speaker 1: But like, I don't have to feel angry about that. It's,

534
00:23:20,770 --> 00:23:22,469
Speaker 1: it's a valid thing to maybe feel angry about, but,

535
00:23:22,730 --> 00:23:24,409
Speaker 1: but it's also like, you're just sad about it.

536
00:23:24,810 --> 00:23:26,270
Speaker 2: And he's gone silent.

537
00:23:26,530 --> 00:23:26,830
Speaker 1: Yeah.

538
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 2: Which is, and I was talking, his partner was in

539
00:23:29,859 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 2: the background saying, I would say something, mate. Like, you've

540
00:23:32,060 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: got to say something. Like, that's not on. And I

541
00:23:34,060 --> 00:23:35,940
Speaker 2: told Cassie and she said, yeah, I'd say something too. Like,

542
00:23:36,380 --> 00:23:38,250
Speaker 2: that wouldn't be on for my friends. And I think

543
00:23:38,270 --> 00:23:42,530
Speaker 2: you and I, like, our, I don't know, the versions

544
00:23:42,570 --> 00:23:44,609
Speaker 2: of ourselves we are now has been accelerated because of

545
00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:46,590
Speaker 2: this podcast and the exposure of the women behind us.

546
00:23:46,609 --> 00:23:47,030
Speaker 1: Yeah.

547
00:23:47,350 --> 00:23:49,609
Speaker 2: And I think, like, because I was like, I'd fucking

548
00:23:49,630 --> 00:23:50,810
Speaker 2: say something. I was like, I'll say something in the

549
00:23:50,830 --> 00:23:52,629
Speaker 2: group chat, but then they'll know you're talking shit to me. So,

550
00:23:52,630 --> 00:23:53,690
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a good thing to do.

551
00:23:53,710 --> 00:23:53,810
Speaker 1: Yeah.

552
00:23:55,180 --> 00:23:56,369
Speaker 2: He was just going, so he's like, oh, I'll just

553
00:23:56,380 --> 00:23:57,770
Speaker 2: see what happens. And I was like, fair enough. Like,

554
00:23:57,790 --> 00:23:59,310
Speaker 2: no one's going to force you to not talk to

555
00:23:59,330 --> 00:24:00,010
Speaker 2: someone if you don't want to.

556
00:24:00,050 --> 00:24:02,450
Speaker 1: But no, at least you said you should say, like

557
00:24:02,490 --> 00:24:03,889
Speaker 1: you said to him that he should say something. Like,

558
00:24:03,930 --> 00:24:06,129
Speaker 1: here's the thing as well, right? So like, if like,

559
00:24:07,130 --> 00:24:11,470
Speaker 1: I would be the same as him toward those friends.

560
00:24:11,869 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 3: True.

561
00:24:12,060 --> 00:24:13,740
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? If it was you, I

562
00:24:14,220 --> 00:24:17,820
Speaker 1: would say something. Because I know that if I say something,

563
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,899
Speaker 1: our friendship's not over. Yes, exactly. But if it's them,

564
00:24:21,820 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: there's about a 99% chance that if you say like,

565
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,740
Speaker 1: You guys have been shit blokes. And it makes me

566
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,510
Speaker 1: feel like shit that you didn't, you know, no one

567
00:24:31,550 --> 00:24:33,570
Speaker 1: has even made the effort to come see my child.

568
00:24:33,950 --> 00:24:37,490
Speaker 1: The first person in our friend group to have a child, right? Yeah.

569
00:24:37,770 --> 00:24:39,850
Speaker 1: Which is just such a valid thing to feel shit about.

570
00:24:39,869 --> 00:24:44,430
Speaker 1: I can guarantee you they would either not reply or

571
00:24:45,730 --> 00:24:48,430
Speaker 1: they would just give him an empty apology and still

572
00:24:48,470 --> 00:24:51,350
Speaker 1: not go see them. You know what I mean? I know.

573
00:24:51,380 --> 00:24:53,370
Speaker 1: And then because they wouldn't be able to take like

574
00:24:53,670 --> 00:24:56,209
Speaker 1: what they would be taking that. Like, I don't even

575
00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:58,110
Speaker 1: know how to explain that. Well, basically the friendship would

576
00:24:58,150 --> 00:24:59,890
Speaker 1: be over is what I'm saying. It's because it's so

577
00:24:59,990 --> 00:25:02,330
Speaker 1: surface level. You know, if you said to someone that

578
00:25:02,369 --> 00:25:05,149
Speaker 1: you don't know that well, I think you're being a

579
00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:07,750
Speaker 1: shit person, then they're going to be upset and take

580
00:25:07,790 --> 00:25:10,490
Speaker 1: offense to it. Instead of me saying to you, Odi,

581
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: I think you've been a shit person right now. You've

582
00:25:11,900 --> 00:25:15,580
Speaker 1: been a shit friend. You would be like, oh, fuck. Like, oh.

583
00:25:15,700 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

584
00:25:16,060 --> 00:25:17,219
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, they're not going to

585
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:18,860
Speaker 1: take that and reflect on it and be like, oh,

586
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: I have been a shit friend. They're going to be like,

587
00:25:20,580 --> 00:25:23,140
Speaker 1: they're going to double down and probably just ignore it. Yeah, 100%.

588
00:25:23,140 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: Because it is so surface level. They don't give a

589
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,980
Speaker 1: fuck if they're friends or not with him. Let's be

590
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: so for real.

591
00:25:27,980 --> 00:25:30,719
Speaker 2: And the way I've started to look at like the

592
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,590
Speaker 2: friendships in my life and you just said like who

593
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,350
Speaker 2: I would say something to is if I wouldn't invite

594
00:25:36,369 --> 00:25:39,909
Speaker 2: them to my wedding, I probably I'm not going to

595
00:25:39,950 --> 00:25:40,590
Speaker 2: say anything, eh?

596
00:25:40,910 --> 00:25:42,590
Speaker 1: No, that's so, I think that's so bad.

597
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,820
Speaker 2: Because I was talking to the same friend. I was like,

598
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,659
Speaker 2: all of them, they're not coming to my wedding. I

599
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: don't give a single fuck now.

600
00:25:48,060 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 1: I have zero reason to invite them to my wedding. Yeah, no. Same.

601
00:25:52,430 --> 00:25:55,910
Speaker 1: Even if I got married tomorrow. It's a bit sad.

602
00:25:55,970 --> 00:25:58,390
Speaker 1: It's very sad to think of. But I was talking...

603
00:25:58,210 --> 00:26:00,669
Speaker 1: Did I talk... I spoke about this with... I had

604
00:26:00,710 --> 00:26:03,629
Speaker 1: dinner with Luke the other day, right? I've said this

605
00:26:03,650 --> 00:26:05,889
Speaker 1: a couple of times. Just didn't even have to add Bateman.

606
00:26:05,930 --> 00:26:08,570
Speaker 1: Everyone just knows they're friends of Luke Bateman anyway. Yeah.

607
00:26:10,690 --> 00:26:13,470
Speaker 1: But so I think I was telling you about it. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.

608
00:26:14,300 --> 00:26:17,619
Speaker 2: I saw you put like $ 500 on the card for

609
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 2: an apartment, a little hotel room after the dinner, after

610
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:21,580
Speaker 2: your dinner with Luke Bateman.

611
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,590
Speaker 1: Mate, that was my Uber home from Brizzy all the

612
00:26:27,609 --> 00:26:30,890
Speaker 1: way to Galway. Oh, right. And a few drinks.

613
00:26:31,230 --> 00:26:32,930
Speaker 2: The amount you name dropped to Luke Bateman.

614
00:26:32,950 --> 00:26:37,570
Speaker 1: That was my Uber home, right? The Uber was actually...

615
00:26:37,820 --> 00:26:39,940
Speaker 1: Yuba was only a hundred bucks from Brisbane to Gold Coast,

616
00:26:39,980 --> 00:26:41,660
Speaker 1: but he ended up charging me a hundred bucks every

617
00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:45,140
Speaker 1: time I mentioned Luke Bateman. Oh, fair value. No, no, sorry.

618
00:26:45,180 --> 00:26:46,620
Speaker 1: He was charging me a dollar every time I mentioned

619
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:51,010
Speaker 1: Luke Bates. No, but he was talking about, so he

620
00:26:51,050 --> 00:26:56,149
Speaker 1: used to be engaged. Yes. And the woman he was

621
00:26:56,190 --> 00:26:59,330
Speaker 1: engaged to, they were planning the wedding, of course. She

622
00:26:59,369 --> 00:27:02,869
Speaker 1: had like six bridesmaids or something like that. And he goes,

623
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:06,090
Speaker 1: he said he just had to start asking people. He

624
00:27:06,109 --> 00:27:10,310
Speaker 1: just would never ask. I just don't have... Because when

625
00:27:10,330 --> 00:27:12,930
Speaker 1: you've got, you know, the bridesmaids and the groomsmen, they

626
00:27:12,950 --> 00:27:15,810
Speaker 1: walk down the aisle together. You know, they feed off.

627
00:27:16,050 --> 00:27:18,010
Speaker 1: He did six as well, eh? So then you need...

628
00:27:17,950 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: So I was thinking, God, I hope Beth only has three.

629
00:27:20,300 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 4: Because I'm fucking using Oddie.

630
00:27:23,740 --> 00:27:25,540
Speaker 1: I might have to call my dad up from the

631
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,859
Speaker 1: old bench. And both my brothers are going to get

632
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: a call up from the bench. And also, I'll be

633
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,179
Speaker 1: like this. You're not getting Joanna, Beth. Joanna's coming with me.

634
00:27:32,460 --> 00:27:37,500
Speaker 1: She's going to be a groomsman. Well, I didn't think

635
00:27:37,540 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: about that.

636
00:27:38,020 --> 00:27:40,340
Speaker 2: I think me and Cassie are lucky enough that we're both...

637
00:27:41,500 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: We both don't have massive friendship groups.

638
00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:47,410
Speaker 1: Mate, I'll be happy. I'll go one each side. Yeah, 100%. Easy.

639
00:27:47,830 --> 00:27:51,370
Speaker 2: I'll be calling Henry up. Henry and Darcy, they'll be... Yeah,

640
00:27:51,410 --> 00:27:53,210
Speaker 2: just do Henry and Darcy either side. My brother did

641
00:27:53,230 --> 00:27:55,490
Speaker 2: Big Zero. I almost think it's a good idea to

642
00:27:55,510 --> 00:27:57,500
Speaker 2: do Big Zero, but here's the thing, right? Does your

643
00:27:57,540 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: brother have like a best friend?

644
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. The.

645
00:28:01,330 --> 00:28:04,910
Speaker 2: Tom Muller, head singer of the Moving Stills, mate.

646
00:28:04,970 --> 00:28:09,090
Speaker 1: Name dropping again over here, this guy. But I was

647
00:28:09,109 --> 00:28:14,980
Speaker 1: going to say, I feel like if I said, I'm

648
00:28:15,020 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: not going to do groomsmen and Beth's not going to

649
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,379
Speaker 1: do bridesmaids, it's just going to be us. I feel

650
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,830
Speaker 1: as though it would be offensive to you. We've got

651
00:28:24,850 --> 00:28:27,109
Speaker 1: to do at least one each side just because we've

652
00:28:27,130 --> 00:28:29,150
Speaker 1: got to at least get them involved in the wedding.

653
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 3: True.

654
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,500
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to, I feel like we're going to

655
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 2: have so much pressure on ourselves for like the best

656
00:28:35,180 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: man speech too.

657
00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:37,500
Speaker 1: Cause like, Oh, these guys talk for a living. It's

658
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: going to be so good. Jesus Christ. Also, you know,

659
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: it's so funny. Okay. When it's going to be harder

660
00:28:45,500 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: for me to do yours than for you to do mine.

661
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: Why is that? Because my family is all pretty close, right?

662
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: Or quite close. And then they're also, they're all like,

663
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,700
Speaker 1: you know, senses of humor, but not that your family

664
00:28:59,740 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: doesn't have sense of humor, but, Like, it's just going

665
00:29:02,220 --> 00:29:05,460
Speaker 1: to be a bit more people. And so when you're

666
00:29:05,500 --> 00:29:09,020
Speaker 1: up there, they're just like, they're going to think you're hilarious, right?

667
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: If you're trying to be funny, I don't know if

668
00:29:10,220 --> 00:29:12,610
Speaker 1: you will or not. It's always something that groomsmen seem

669
00:29:12,620 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: to do. But just because there's going to be so

670
00:29:14,940 --> 00:29:16,570
Speaker 1: much people, I think it's going to be easier for you.

671
00:29:17,070 --> 00:29:19,330
Speaker 1: When I'm at yours, I know your mom, your dad,

672
00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:23,070
Speaker 1: your brother. And I think I've maybe met Cassie's parents once.

673
00:29:24,330 --> 00:29:28,030
Speaker 1: Other than that, bro, I'm going to be talking to

674
00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:32,340
Speaker 1: people I've never met in my life. And also, you

675
00:29:32,380 --> 00:29:34,220
Speaker 1: barely talk to anyone that's probably going to get invited

676
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: to your wedding because they're only going to invite them

677
00:29:35,780 --> 00:29:37,850
Speaker 1: because they're close, close relatives that you don't hang out with.

678
00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: Whereas I hang out with... I am close with my

679
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: extended family, so they're going to get inside jokes. They're

680
00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:45,100
Speaker 1: going to think it's funny. Whereas I'm going to say

681
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,900
Speaker 1: something that you did back in the day and they're

682
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: just going to be like, oh, that's weird.

683
00:29:50,900 --> 00:29:53,180
Speaker 2: The only thing that's working in your favor right now

684
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,330
Speaker 2: is me and Cassie still want to do a Bali

685
00:29:56,350 --> 00:29:57,010
Speaker 2: wedding at this point.

686
00:29:57,790 --> 00:29:58,310
Speaker 1: Ah, yeah.

687
00:29:58,740 --> 00:30:01,180
Speaker 2: So, it's going to cut a lot of those people

688
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,850
Speaker 2: out just because they don't want to travel to Bali.

689
00:30:02,870 --> 00:30:06,930
Speaker 1: Dude, that's valid. That's valid. I honestly reckon.

690
00:30:06,750 --> 00:30:09,290
Speaker 2: There'd be like 30 people at our wedding, eh?

691
00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:11,370
Speaker 1: No, that's good. I think that would be good, nice

692
00:30:11,410 --> 00:30:14,170
Speaker 1: and small. And on the topic of weddings, I was

693
00:30:14,210 --> 00:30:15,820
Speaker 1: actually not going to do this this episode. I just

694
00:30:15,860 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: saw it because I wanted to save it for an episode.

695
00:30:21,220 --> 00:30:23,780
Speaker 1: But I have an M.I. the asshole that's to do

696
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:24,220
Speaker 1: with weddings.

697
00:30:25,060 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 3: Oh, okay.

698
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:26,219
Speaker 1: I love M.I.

699
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: The assholes, eh?

700
00:30:26,820 --> 00:30:32,870
Speaker 1: Alright. So, this is from our dilemmas thing. Like, this

701
00:30:32,910 --> 00:30:35,170
Speaker 1: is from one of the baddies. Oh, okay. Yeah, fully

702
00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:38,810
Speaker 1: from one of the baddies. Help. My older brother's wedding

703
00:30:38,850 --> 00:30:41,710
Speaker 1: is coming up in less than two months. Initially, I

704
00:30:41,860 --> 00:30:45,300
Speaker 1: RSVP'd that I would attend, although I've been having second thoughts.

705
00:30:45,940 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: My older brother and I have a strained relationship. We

706
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,420
Speaker 1: really only see each other at family gatherings or on birthdays.

707
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,350
Speaker 1: I recently told my therapist that I was nervous about

708
00:30:54,380 --> 00:30:57,930
Speaker 1: attending because my estranged father... whom I haven't spoken to

709
00:30:58,010 --> 00:31:01,610
Speaker 1: in 11 years, will be there. I'm also concerned that

710
00:31:01,630 --> 00:31:03,630
Speaker 1: my brother, who is the only one of my siblings

711
00:31:03,730 --> 00:31:06,580
Speaker 1: who still has a relationship with my father, would expect

712
00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: me to engage with him or potentially call me out

713
00:31:09,900 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: if I didn't speak to him or sit near him.

714
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: I recently messaged my brother and his fiance to confirm

715
00:31:15,660 --> 00:31:18,940
Speaker 1: that my boundaries regarding my father would be respected. His

716
00:31:18,980 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: fiance responded to me separately and said that it was fine.

717
00:31:22,950 --> 00:31:25,910
Speaker 1: but my brother didn't respond. Instead, he sent out a

718
00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:29,850
Speaker 1: group wedding message saying that no family drama would be tolerated.

719
00:31:30,390 --> 00:31:32,190
Speaker 1: I messaged them back two and a half weeks later

720
00:31:32,490 --> 00:31:35,209
Speaker 1: saying that given the circumstances, I think it's best that

721
00:31:35,250 --> 00:31:37,650
Speaker 1: I don't attend because I don't want to compromise my

722
00:31:37,690 --> 00:31:40,370
Speaker 1: comfort or add any stress to what should be a

723
00:31:40,470 --> 00:31:44,100
Speaker 1: happy occasion for them. I also apologize for changing my RSVP.

724
00:31:44,470 --> 00:31:47,020
Speaker 1: So am I the asshole? Was I being unreasonable by

725
00:31:47,060 --> 00:31:49,820
Speaker 1: deciding not to attend or am I justified in protecting

726
00:31:49,860 --> 00:31:52,219
Speaker 1: my boundaries given the history with my father and my

727
00:31:52,260 --> 00:31:55,060
Speaker 1: concerns about how my brother might handle the situation.

728
00:31:55,940 --> 00:31:57,140
Speaker 2: Fuck.

729
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,150
Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy.

730
00:31:59,390 --> 00:32:00,090
Speaker 2: I'm going to say.

731
00:32:00,110 --> 00:32:03,530
Speaker 1: I'm leaning towards the side of like, protect your peace.

732
00:32:04,830 --> 00:32:07,830
Speaker 2: I don't think you're a big asshole. I think everyone's

733
00:32:07,870 --> 00:32:09,310
Speaker 2: an asshole in this scenario, to be honest.

734
00:32:09,670 --> 00:32:10,290
Speaker 1: A little bit, yeah.

735
00:32:10,510 --> 00:32:12,570
Speaker 2: I think everyone. So your brother for that message is

736
00:32:12,610 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: an asshole. Obviously, your stepfather or whatever is a fucking asshole.

737
00:32:15,620 --> 00:32:16,090
Speaker 1: And then.

738
00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:19,700
Speaker 2: Just a tiny little bit of me thinks that like,

739
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,930
Speaker 2: because it's your brother. Hopefully, he's never going to get

740
00:32:23,970 --> 00:32:26,970
Speaker 2: married again. You should just swore that little bit of

741
00:32:27,010 --> 00:32:29,410
Speaker 2: discomfort for an hour, go to the ceremony and then leave.

742
00:32:29,430 --> 00:32:29,990
Speaker 4: Yeah.

743
00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:32,460
Speaker 2: And say you've been there. Like that's... And then that

744
00:32:32,580 --> 00:32:34,540
Speaker 2: for me, not doing that makes you a tiny little

745
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,300
Speaker 2: bit of an asshole. But then also, I do understand

746
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,060
Speaker 2: where you're coming from. Protecting your peace. I.

747
00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: So, I actually get what you're saying. And I'm with

748
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: you on that. But recently, I saw something, right? I

749
00:32:45,940 --> 00:32:47,300
Speaker 1: don't know if it was... May have been you that

750
00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: told me. May have been Beth that told me. I

751
00:32:48,820 --> 00:32:54,060
Speaker 1: can't even remember. Anywho. Like... So she's got, she has

752
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: no relationship with her father and she has practically no

753
00:32:56,860 --> 00:32:59,700
Speaker 1: relationship with her brother apart from family gatherings, right?

754
00:32:59,940 --> 00:33:00,180
Speaker 2: Yeah.

755
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: So she clearly doesn't get along with either of them.

756
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,900
Speaker 1: And if she didn't go to a family gathering, she'd

757
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: never see her brother. So it's like, you don't really

758
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,210
Speaker 1: have a relationship with him either. My question is, why

759
00:33:12,290 --> 00:33:15,830
Speaker 1: is it that, let's just say you and I have

760
00:33:15,870 --> 00:33:18,950
Speaker 1: a massive falling out and we're currently best friends, but

761
00:33:18,970 --> 00:33:21,470
Speaker 1: we have a huge falling out. We could, it wouldn't

762
00:33:21,510 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: be easy, but like, We could never see each other

763
00:33:23,820 --> 00:33:26,780
Speaker 1: again and get along with our lives, right? Why is

764
00:33:26,820 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: it that you can't cut off a family member that

765
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: you just don't get along with? Just because they're blood.

766
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: Because like, let's just say I change. Like if I

767
00:33:35,940 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: change completely and I just turn into like this fucking

768
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,580
Speaker 1: shit bloke, you're not just going to fucking be friends

769
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: with me still, especially after maybe trying to get me

770
00:33:43,460 --> 00:33:45,020
Speaker 1: to go back to the way I was.

771
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: It's a good hot take to be fair.

772
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: Like why do you have to put up with family's

773
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: bullshit just because they're family? I don't get that.

774
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,850
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think my answer comes from a place

775
00:33:55,890 --> 00:34:00,450
Speaker 2: where like my family like has always shown love towards

776
00:34:00,490 --> 00:34:03,270
Speaker 2: me and I guess I've never not experienced love from

777
00:34:03,310 --> 00:34:07,060
Speaker 2: a sibling or my parents and like I really value,

778
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: even though I probably don't say it enough, just having...

779
00:34:10,790 --> 00:34:13,090
Speaker 2: my family near me or that little bit of connection

780
00:34:13,330 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: and there's no other relationship you can compare to the

781
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:17,930
Speaker 2: love you have with your family.

782
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:18,950
Speaker 1: It's unconditional.

783
00:34:19,110 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I've never had like an absolute shit sibling

784
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: or like a fucking, I don't know, something a really

785
00:34:26,060 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: bad mother or someone who like left me when I

786
00:34:28,140 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 2: was a child or something like that. I've never had

787
00:34:29,900 --> 00:34:32,700
Speaker 2: that and I could understand that cutting. It is weird

788
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,100
Speaker 2: though because like you said, if a friend did something

789
00:34:35,140 --> 00:34:38,540
Speaker 2: terrible to you, like unforgivable, you could easily be like,

790
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,190
Speaker 2: I'm not fucking going to talk to Jake anymore. And

791
00:34:41,210 --> 00:34:42,569
Speaker 2: everyone would be like, what are you doing? And then

792
00:34:42,590 --> 00:34:44,090
Speaker 2: they'd be like, oh, that's so valid. But then if

793
00:34:44,130 --> 00:34:46,029
Speaker 2: I said like, I'm never going to talk to my

794
00:34:46,050 --> 00:34:47,569
Speaker 2: brother again, he did this X, Y, and Z, I'd

795
00:34:47,590 --> 00:34:49,810
Speaker 2: be like, oh, I would second guess saying that to someone.

796
00:34:50,130 --> 00:34:54,900
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, why are we so forgiving to family members

797
00:34:54,940 --> 00:34:57,779
Speaker 1: that are such objectively bad people? When if we weren't

798
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:02,020
Speaker 1: family with them, we would never, ever see them again.

799
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: It's so weird, bro. Like, I'm trying to think of

800
00:35:06,510 --> 00:35:14,299
Speaker 1: people in my life... Like, and you get called selfish

801
00:35:14,380 --> 00:35:18,660
Speaker 1: or something like that. So, okay, random. Okay, I have

802
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: an uncle that is pretty racist, right?

803
00:35:25,140 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

804
00:35:25,820 --> 00:35:30,950
Speaker 1: And he like will repost racist things on Facebook.

805
00:35:31,250 --> 00:35:31,510
Speaker 2: What?

806
00:35:32,110 --> 00:35:37,190
Speaker 1: Heinous material. Heinous, bro. I have a cousin, right? That was.

807
00:35:39,150 --> 00:35:41,350
Speaker 1: Everyone was invited to a family event once this uncle

808
00:35:41,390 --> 00:35:43,779
Speaker 1: was going to be there. Right. And I have a

809
00:35:43,820 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: cousin that was like, nah, I'm not going. And everyone

810
00:35:48,540 --> 00:35:50,739
Speaker 1: was kind of like, and the reason she's not going

811
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,500
Speaker 1: is because she's like, doesn't want to be around this uncle,

812
00:35:52,700 --> 00:35:54,460
Speaker 1: which is like valid as fuck. If you really think

813
00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:57,420
Speaker 1: about it, like she's not racist. That's obviously terrible. And

814
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:03,049
Speaker 1: he is objectively pretty fucking shit. So she's like, ah, no,

815
00:36:03,070 --> 00:36:07,430
Speaker 1: I'm not going. And so, um, Yeah. Everyone kind of

816
00:36:07,450 --> 00:36:09,810
Speaker 1: was like talking a bit of shit about it. And

817
00:36:09,850 --> 00:36:12,190
Speaker 1: I was like, in the end, Beth and I were

818
00:36:12,310 --> 00:36:15,250
Speaker 1: defending her. Like, wait, what are you guys on about? Like,

819
00:36:15,290 --> 00:36:18,070
Speaker 1: what's the big deal? She doesn't have to like this guy.

820
00:36:18,370 --> 00:36:20,230
Speaker 1: And also she shouldn't have to put herself in a

821
00:36:20,270 --> 00:36:23,500
Speaker 1: situation where she's around someone she doesn't like just to

822
00:36:23,540 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: hang out with family. Like she'll come here if he's

823
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,569
Speaker 1: not here, but. You know what I mean? I was

824
00:36:29,590 --> 00:36:31,069
Speaker 1: kind of defending her. I started defending her.

825
00:36:31,350 --> 00:36:33,219
Speaker 2: Oh, the only thing I would add to that is

826
00:36:33,300 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 2: I don't think you should just air him without saying anything.

827
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: I think you should say, I'm not going. I've told

828
00:36:39,620 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 2: so-and-so I think he's racist and I'm not going to

829
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,060
Speaker 2: associate with that. So he knows what he's doing is wrong,

830
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: not just let him go about his life thinking it's fine.

831
00:36:47,420 --> 00:36:50,660
Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, true. It's like, say to him... The stuff

832
00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: you repost is racist and I think that's terrible. See

833
00:36:53,820 --> 00:36:55,299
Speaker 1: what he says. And if he's like, fuck yeah, then

834
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, cut him off. Don't have a relationship

835
00:36:57,820 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: with him at all then.

836
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, just so he knows. Because did you see the

837
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:09,450
Speaker 2: controversy that's going on with, fuck, that new activewear brand, Kakaiva?

838
00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:10,350
Speaker 1: Kakaiva?

839
00:37:10,910 --> 00:37:12,290
Speaker 2: Kaya Buckley or something her name is?

840
00:37:12,510 --> 00:37:14,610
Speaker 1: Oh, really? No, what's going on?

841
00:37:14,890 --> 00:37:18,030
Speaker 2: She was on live and her sister came home and said,

842
00:37:18,340 --> 00:37:21,580
Speaker 2: what's up, a racial slur. And she was on live.

843
00:37:21,620 --> 00:37:24,030
Speaker 2: And then this person who has like a massive active wear,

844
00:37:24,050 --> 00:37:26,850
Speaker 2: she was going viral for like the past couple of weeks,

845
00:37:26,890 --> 00:37:29,250
Speaker 2: opening new shops all across Australia or maybe Queensland and

846
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:31,770
Speaker 2: Sydney or whatever. And then she goes, whatever her name is,

847
00:37:31,870 --> 00:37:35,150
Speaker 2: I'm alive. Stop. Kind of like admitting that like that

848
00:37:35,190 --> 00:37:37,410
Speaker 2: must be a normal thing that they do in their family.

849
00:37:37,650 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Totally unacceptable. So she didn't say to her like,

850
00:37:41,620 --> 00:37:43,850
Speaker 1: that's the most unacceptable thing I've ever heard. Like, get out.

851
00:37:44,940 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: She didn't call her out. She just said, wait, I'm

852
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:47,540
Speaker 1: on live. Don't say that.

853
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, the reaction wasn't like, if you walked into a room,

854
00:37:50,020 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: I'd be like, what the fuck?

855
00:37:51,020 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: What are you doing?

856
00:37:52,460 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: You know when it's just a normal reaction? Why the

857
00:37:54,660 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: fuck are you saying that? But you could tell it

858
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,500
Speaker 2: was normalized in their family. And I think that's where

859
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: a lot of people just have those kind of, it's racism,

860
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,390
Speaker 2: but there's underlying sort of racist tones.

861
00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:07,970
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

862
00:38:08,010 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: There's just like- And people get away. I remember we

863
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,819
Speaker 2: had a fucking friend when he got drunk and when

864
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,660
Speaker 2: we were 89 and I wish I said something more.

865
00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:15,580
Speaker 2: He just thought it was funny.

866
00:38:15,780 --> 00:38:19,700
Speaker 1: Wait, dude, no, we said stuff. Yeah. We did say

867
00:38:19,739 --> 00:38:22,540
Speaker 1: stuff to him and he wouldn't stop. And so I

868
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: think where we went wrong there was like, so it

869
00:38:24,780 --> 00:38:26,819
Speaker 1: was like we said stuff. To be fair, we probably

870
00:38:26,860 --> 00:38:28,020
Speaker 1: said it in a way where we're like, that's fucked,

871
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: don't say that. We probably didn't say it as in like, no,

872
00:38:29,980 --> 00:38:33,410
Speaker 1: that's genuinely uncomfortable. That's just fucking insane. You cannot say that.

873
00:38:33,739 --> 00:38:35,669
Speaker 1: We probably didn't like explain to him why it's racist

874
00:38:35,690 --> 00:38:41,549
Speaker 1: because he's like, no. Anyway. So, but no, we said

875
00:38:41,590 --> 00:38:43,989
Speaker 1: stuff and we were all like, you can't fucking say that.

876
00:38:45,780 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: I do remember now.

877
00:38:47,620 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: I think I just hit my head because he kept

878
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: saying it that like, we just like let him get

879
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:51,940
Speaker 2: away with it.

880
00:38:52,140 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know. Like, I guess in a way

881
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,100
Speaker 1: we let him get away with it because we stayed

882
00:38:57,140 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: friends with him. But fuck me. I remember saying stuff

883
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,860
Speaker 1: and being like, bro, you got it. Jesus Christ.

884
00:39:02,890 --> 00:39:07,380
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think there is a big common denominator with

885
00:39:07,420 --> 00:39:10,940
Speaker 2: Australia where it's just this kind of like underlying tone

886
00:39:10,980 --> 00:39:13,090
Speaker 2: that's always there for some reason, which would make so

887
00:39:13,110 --> 00:39:14,090
Speaker 2: many people uncomfortable.

888
00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:18,210
Speaker 1: Well, think about, bro, remember like it might have been

889
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:20,509
Speaker 1: two years ago now, maybe longer. Anyway, do you remember

890
00:39:20,530 --> 00:39:25,009
Speaker 1: that big, what was it? I don't think it's called

891
00:39:25,050 --> 00:39:28,009
Speaker 1: a referendum. Maybe it is. Anyway, there was this whole

892
00:39:28,030 --> 00:39:29,569
Speaker 1: thing we had to vote for where it was either

893
00:39:29,630 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: vote yes or vote no for the government to just

894
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:40,570
Speaker 1: like run decisions by an Aboriginal representative party and it

895
00:39:40,610 --> 00:39:43,029
Speaker 1: was like vote yes if you think the government should

896
00:39:43,050 --> 00:39:49,430
Speaker 1: just include an Aboriginal party in making decisions and Or

897
00:39:49,469 --> 00:39:54,110
Speaker 1: a vote no if you don't think they should. Right? So, obviously,

898
00:39:54,190 --> 00:39:58,290
Speaker 1: we all go vote yes. I'm thinking, obviously, this is

899
00:39:58,310 --> 00:40:00,049
Speaker 1: going to be passed. They're wasting money getting us to

900
00:40:00,070 --> 00:40:02,979
Speaker 1: go vote. Because it costs millions upon millions of dollars

901
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: to organize this whole thing to get people to vote, right?

902
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,980
Speaker 1: And so, I'm just thinking, this is such a waste

903
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,660
Speaker 1: of money. Everyone's going to vote yes. Bro, was I

904
00:40:10,700 --> 00:40:13,930
Speaker 1: fucking wrong? Comes out, everyone votes no. What year was this?

905
00:40:14,140 --> 00:40:15,650
Speaker 1: This was like two and a half years ago, bro.

906
00:40:16,210 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: This is crazy. Like, Australia is so fucking racist. Yeah, shit.

907
00:40:21,700 --> 00:40:23,420
Speaker 2: I would even go, like, so is America. It's like

908
00:40:23,460 --> 00:40:25,580
Speaker 2: why Donald Trump's in office or whatever.

909
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro. America's racist. Like, oh, America's racist. Canada's racist. Like,

910
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:33,460
Speaker 1: they're all racist. We all are. We all, our ancestors

911
00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: come in, took the land. Like, wigs me out how,

912
00:40:36,390 --> 00:40:39,150
Speaker 1: you know, like, why are people like, oh, you know,

913
00:40:39,190 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 1: we fucking, we give them shit back or whatever. Or

914
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,730
Speaker 1: why are they still complaining? It's like, what are you

915
00:40:45,810 --> 00:40:48,890
Speaker 1: talking about? Or people go, I didn't take their land.

916
00:40:49,310 --> 00:40:51,469
Speaker 1: It wasn't me that took it or whatever. And I'm

917
00:40:51,489 --> 00:40:55,259
Speaker 1: thinking like, yeah, but like, you don't have a brain

918
00:40:55,300 --> 00:41:00,420
Speaker 1: in your head, obviously. Like, yeah, obviously you don't have

919
00:41:00,460 --> 00:41:04,140
Speaker 1: a brain in your head to be saying that.

920
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:09,210
Speaker 2: Anyway, just- That like, all these issues that we talk

921
00:41:09,230 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: about on the pod, like, The manosphere, like, the patriarchy, racism,

922
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:14,460
Speaker 2: or anything like that.

923
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,940
Speaker 1: And, like, I don't know how anyone thinks different to us.

924
00:41:19,700 --> 00:41:21,959
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? No, no, yeah, I agree.

925
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,380
Speaker 2: I think it's... Like you said, like, they don't have

926
00:41:24,420 --> 00:41:27,340
Speaker 2: a brain between their heads. Like, what actually cognitively goes

927
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,170
Speaker 2: through their brain? I can understand going for different, like,

928
00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:32,270
Speaker 2: parties in, like, parliament and shit. I understand, like, you

929
00:41:32,290 --> 00:41:34,250
Speaker 2: could have your own thoughts about that because there's so

930
00:41:34,270 --> 00:41:36,529
Speaker 2: many different denominators. But when it's a black and white thing, like,

931
00:41:36,810 --> 00:41:37,649
Speaker 2: you're racist or you're not.

932
00:41:38,370 --> 00:41:44,980
Speaker 1: Like, what do you mean? It's a great, great, great point.

933
00:41:45,260 --> 00:41:46,899
Speaker 1: I would say I'm the same. I'm just like, wait,

934
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? That's so, like you posted

935
00:41:51,540 --> 00:41:55,500
Speaker 1: a video about that Shane Gillis thing.

936
00:41:55,860 --> 00:41:56,990
Speaker 2: Yeah, the comedian.

937
00:41:57,469 --> 00:42:03,049
Speaker 1: And there was one comment, right? That fucking, I was like, what?

938
00:42:03,210 --> 00:42:05,490
Speaker 2: There was a few that I knew. So I posted

939
00:42:05,570 --> 00:42:08,740
Speaker 2: a TikTok and it was about the comedian saying, who

940
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,820
Speaker 2: said women who go to the gym now dress like whores.

941
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

942
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: And we got centered a fair bit on Relatables and

943
00:42:14,780 --> 00:42:18,070
Speaker 2: then also on the last episode, or we said it somewhere,

944
00:42:18,469 --> 00:42:20,489
Speaker 2: I was struggling to put into like a video that's

945
00:42:20,530 --> 00:42:23,089
Speaker 2: like informative, a way to like call out these shit men.

946
00:42:24,350 --> 00:42:26,029
Speaker 2: So I did it and I showed Cassie beforehand and

947
00:42:26,050 --> 00:42:27,710
Speaker 2: I said, I just like, I think this is a

948
00:42:27,730 --> 00:42:30,410
Speaker 2: great video, but I struggle to position myself when posting

949
00:42:30,430 --> 00:42:33,339
Speaker 2: a video like that. Just because I just, I don't

950
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 2: want to seem like I know everything, but I think

951
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:36,980
Speaker 2: it needs to be said. So I posted it and then,

952
00:42:37,570 --> 00:42:39,029
Speaker 2: There's like three or four comments like what.

953
00:42:38,930 --> 00:42:41,669
Speaker 1: Jake's about to say. There's more now. There's people calling

954
00:42:41,690 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: you like a snowflake and stuff. And someone said... Someone

955
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,260
Speaker 1: comments on your post, bro, no, it was a jokey snowflake.

956
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,419
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, some women do dress like whores at the gym.

957
00:42:50,500 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: It's not women empowerment for wearing next to nothing. Like...

958
00:42:53,940 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: But here's the one that sent me, right? Someone said...

959
00:42:56,980 --> 00:43:01,430
Speaker 1: This is fucked. I replied to this comment, by the way.

960
00:43:02,330 --> 00:43:08,049
Speaker 1: Someone said... Someone said, what a fucking performative... pussy fart retard.

961
00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:12,069
Speaker 4: Like i'm just i'm just reading the comment by the

962
00:43:12,110 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 4: way and then i replied to it do you mean

963
00:43:14,260 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 4: this as an insult question mark and i wanted to

964
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 4: see what they had to say but they haven't replied

965
00:43:18,340 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 4: to it yet.

966
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 2: Social media man is the funniest place because i saw

967
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 2: them too and i at the start i was thinking

968
00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 2: about a little bit and i was like no i

969
00:43:26,380 --> 00:43:27,890
Speaker 2: know what i said was right but you click on

970
00:43:27,910 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: their profiles and they're like the most revolting like scariest-looking men,

971
00:43:32,780 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: all their no-name profiles, and you're just like, this is

972
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,259
Speaker 2: what happens on the internet, hey?

973
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,020
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

974
00:43:38,300 --> 00:43:40,090
Speaker 2: And, like, imagine, like, I'm posting a video about it.

975
00:43:40,090 --> 00:43:41,509
Speaker 2: Imagine the women who go to the gym and have

976
00:43:41,570 --> 00:43:43,410
Speaker 2: creepy dudes like that actually fucking staring at them.

977
00:43:43,690 --> 00:43:47,830
Speaker 1: I know. It's insane. Actually, here's a funny one. So,

978
00:43:48,030 --> 00:43:56,250
Speaker 1: someone commented, like, just basically disagreeing with you, right? And just, just, they...

979
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: they just try and insult you. And then we actually,

980
00:43:59,219 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: we used to go to, we used to be in

981
00:44:01,260 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: the same friend group with this guy named Riley Matkovich. Yeah.

982
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,589
Speaker 1: Shout out. He replied to this and he said, he said, well,

983
00:44:07,610 --> 00:44:14,210
Speaker 1: you've changed my mind, exclamation point, being sarcastic. Yeah. Oh,

984
00:44:14,310 --> 00:44:14,850
Speaker 1: fuck me.

985
00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:17,170
Speaker 2: And I think like, going back to what I said,

986
00:44:17,210 --> 00:44:19,550
Speaker 2: I think a lot of those comments and like, Luke

987
00:44:19,570 --> 00:44:21,500
Speaker 2: gets them all the time too. I've seen his comment sections.

988
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: He's like, When you don't have any women in your

989
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 2: life or you've been a terrible man and you control

990
00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 2: the women around you, our thoughts and thinking have been

991
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,779
Speaker 2: accelerated because of this podcast and stuff. But I just

992
00:44:33,820 --> 00:44:36,530
Speaker 2: don't see how anyone can think what I'm saying is wrong.

993
00:44:37,150 --> 00:44:37,650
Speaker 1: I know.

994
00:44:38,430 --> 00:44:41,130
Speaker 2: Men do objectify women. They sexualize women. That's all they do.

995
00:44:41,150 --> 00:44:42,890
Speaker 2: They look at them as just things they can have

996
00:44:42,930 --> 00:44:44,850
Speaker 2: sex with, which is the biggest problem in the whole world.

997
00:44:45,250 --> 00:44:47,490
Speaker 2: They make women feel unsafe for walking on the fucking street.

998
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:50,980
Speaker 1: And I think what people are trying to say in

999
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,410
Speaker 1: your comment section is like... What you're saying is that

1000
00:44:54,469 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: Shane Gillis, I don't care where in his joke it

1001
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,620
Speaker 1: was placed. I don't care if it was the punchline

1002
00:45:01,700 --> 00:45:03,740
Speaker 1: or if he was making fun of himself or whatever.

1003
00:45:03,820 --> 00:45:07,779
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. You're just saying that the fact he

1004
00:45:07,860 --> 00:45:12,430
Speaker 1: needed to say that in his joke is just an

1005
00:45:12,489 --> 00:45:16,089
Speaker 1: example of that. It's an example that men objectify women.

1006
00:45:16,370 --> 00:45:19,100
Speaker 1: It's an example of that, right? And they're trying to

1007
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,630
Speaker 1: say like, no, it's not. It's a joke. You fucking

1008
00:45:21,690 --> 00:45:27,469
Speaker 1: pussy fart retard.

1009
00:45:27,810 --> 00:45:28,750
Speaker 2: I wrote out what I was going to say in

1010
00:45:28,770 --> 00:45:30,469
Speaker 2: that video. And I didn't touch on the fact that like,

1011
00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:32,330
Speaker 2: I knew people would say it's a joke, take it

1012
00:45:32,370 --> 00:45:35,090
Speaker 2: as a joke, but also like, it also highlights such a,

1013
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: such a bigger problem as in this guy is a

1014
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: massive comedian. He hosts like some show in fucking America,

1015
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,899
Speaker 2: three nights a week or some shit, some massive show.

1016
00:45:42,420 --> 00:45:44,570
Speaker 2: And all these young and impressionable men would look at

1017
00:45:44,610 --> 00:45:46,210
Speaker 2: this guy and be like, he's made it in life. He's,

1018
00:45:46,469 --> 00:45:48,270
Speaker 2: Hosts a TV show. He does all this. And now

1019
00:45:48,310 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 2: he's just degrading women in his jokes. No wonder fucking

1020
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: people in America are fucking raping women and not saying

1021
00:45:54,100 --> 00:45:56,180
Speaker 2: anything about it. And they're doing it all over the world.

1022
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 2: Like they look at these people how they depict women.

1023
00:45:58,380 --> 00:46:00,420
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, people need to start standing up for

1024
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: that shit more.

1025
00:46:01,420 --> 00:46:06,410
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's like, here's my thinking is number one. Well,

1026
00:46:06,450 --> 00:46:08,950
Speaker 1: I've seen a bunch of comedians making videos having to

1027
00:46:09,010 --> 00:46:12,210
Speaker 1: explain the joke, right? It's not a joke, but I

1028
00:46:12,270 --> 00:46:14,090
Speaker 1: don't know. They're like, it was taken out of context.

1029
00:46:14,130 --> 00:46:16,310
Speaker 1: It was taken out of context. Or like, it's comedy.

1030
00:46:16,370 --> 00:46:18,630
Speaker 1: It's comedy. So number one, if you have to explain

1031
00:46:18,670 --> 00:46:19,630
Speaker 1: a joke, it's not a good joke.

1032
00:46:20,710 --> 00:46:21,030
Speaker 2: Exactly.

1033
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: It needs to be explained. Number two, punching down in

1034
00:46:29,980 --> 00:46:34,549
Speaker 1: comedy is surely considered so lazy. That's just what I'm assuming. Oh, yeah.

1035
00:46:34,670 --> 00:46:37,029
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I

1036
00:46:37,070 --> 00:46:40,959
Speaker 1: think like, just because something is quote unquote comedy doesn't

1037
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,530
Speaker 1: mean that you need to punch down to a, an

1038
00:46:45,930 --> 00:46:49,509
Speaker 1: oppressed people. Yeah. You know what I mean? Even if

1039
00:46:49,550 --> 00:46:53,610
Speaker 1: it's like a stereotype or, or in this situation, it

1040
00:46:53,630 --> 00:46:55,550
Speaker 1: was calling a woman whores for what they were at

1041
00:46:55,590 --> 00:46:57,410
Speaker 1: the gym. Like, I just think that if you need

1042
00:46:57,430 --> 00:47:00,210
Speaker 1: to punch down, then are you that funny? You know

1043
00:47:00,230 --> 00:47:02,029
Speaker 1: what I mean? I'm sure he is very funny and

1044
00:47:02,050 --> 00:47:03,210
Speaker 1: I'm sure he can put a lot of thought into

1045
00:47:03,250 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: making jokes about stuff that is actually funny, but, This

1046
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: particular one just obviously didn't land. And everyone goes on

1047
00:47:10,140 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: to say he was making fun of himself. Like he

1048
00:47:12,620 --> 00:47:15,540
Speaker 1: was making fun of himself. And I haven't even gone

1049
00:47:15,580 --> 00:47:18,130
Speaker 1: and watched the full thing, but it's just like, I

1050
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,310
Speaker 1: don't know. If he made a joke about rape and

1051
00:47:22,330 --> 00:47:24,029
Speaker 1: he was making fun of himself in the end, would

1052
00:47:24,050 --> 00:47:25,770
Speaker 1: you still think it's funny? Yeah, exactly.

1053
00:47:26,230 --> 00:47:28,210
Speaker 2: And it's a snowball. It's the start of a massive issue.

1054
00:47:28,230 --> 00:47:32,030
Speaker 2: And it's just because it's like just slightly not completely wrong.

1055
00:47:32,090 --> 00:47:32,910
Speaker 2: People think it's fine.

1056
00:47:32,969 --> 00:47:36,150
Speaker 1: Like, fuck off. fuck off no it's it's it's absolutely

1057
00:47:36,170 --> 00:47:39,230
Speaker 1: fucking insane.

1058
00:47:44,300 --> 00:47:46,140
Speaker 2: It's time for one of you to sign off the

1059
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 2: episode and while i'm in bali baddies we're going to

1060
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: do something different and this is your chance if you're

1061
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 2: an international listener to get called by us on whatsapp

1062
00:47:54,820 --> 00:47:57,770
Speaker 2: so the link will be in the description and we're

1063
00:47:57,790 --> 00:48:00,350
Speaker 2: going to be calling someone from overseas let's do it

1064
00:48:00,530 --> 00:48:02,129
Speaker 2: jake's going to be on the phone call as well

1065
00:48:02,170 --> 00:48:03,609
Speaker 2: so Today, we're going.

1066
00:48:03,530 --> 00:48:04,090
Speaker 1: To be calling.

1067
00:48:04,469 --> 00:48:05,370
Speaker 2: Jake, who are you going to call?

1068
00:48:05,530 --> 00:48:09,330
Speaker 1: Jessica. Shit, it's not working. Hello, is that Jessica? Hey,

1069
00:48:09,489 --> 00:48:10,209
Speaker 1: I can hear you.

1070
00:48:10,550 --> 00:48:11,070
Speaker 2: How's it going?

1071
00:48:11,290 --> 00:48:12,210
Speaker 3: Good, how are you?

1072
00:48:12,450 --> 00:48:13,089
Speaker 1: Really, really good.

1073
00:48:13,110 --> 00:48:16,230
Speaker 2: We're having a couple of technical difficulties because I'm in Bali,

1074
00:48:16,290 --> 00:48:18,230
Speaker 2: Jake's in Australia. Jake, are you there?

1075
00:48:18,530 --> 00:48:19,890
Speaker 1: I'm here. Jessica, can you hear me?

1076
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:25,419
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can. Cross-continental phone call here.

1077
00:48:26,780 --> 00:48:28,739
Speaker 2: This might not be as good audio-wise, but do you

1078
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:29,940
Speaker 2: know why we're calling you today?

1079
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.

1080
00:48:31,980 --> 00:48:34,140
Speaker 2: We're calling to see if you could sign off the episode.

1081
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,570
Speaker 2: You can do it in any way you want. You

1082
00:48:35,590 --> 00:48:37,430
Speaker 2: can give us a riddle. You can give us a quote,

1083
00:48:37,489 --> 00:48:38,510
Speaker 2: anything you live by.

1084
00:48:38,530 --> 00:48:39,230
Speaker 1: Okay.

1085
00:48:39,830 --> 00:48:46,830
Speaker 3: I had some notes. They're not super well thought out, but.

1086
00:48:51,170 --> 00:48:54,150
Speaker 3: There's been so much change happening in my life recently.

1087
00:48:54,230 --> 00:48:59,090
Speaker 3: So I've been living by this motto of life.

1088
00:48:58,950 --> 00:48:59,689
Speaker 1: Is just for fun.

1089
00:49:00,030 --> 00:49:03,380
Speaker 3: So you may as well just make the scary decision

1090
00:49:03,660 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 3: or do the thing that you've been thinking about doing

1091
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:11,260
Speaker 3: forever and just follow your heart. And the universe has

1092
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 3: a plan. So it'll all work out.

1093
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.

1094
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 2: That might be the sweetest way to sign off an episode, Evway.

1095
00:49:16,780 --> 00:49:18,710
Speaker 2: I absolutely love that. I'm going to start using that

1096
00:49:18,750 --> 00:49:19,089
Speaker 2: in my life.

1097
00:49:19,590 --> 00:49:19,969
Speaker 1: That's good.

1098
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,460
Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much for coming. Are you in

1099
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:23,340
Speaker 2: Canada or America?

1100
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 3: I'm in Canada.

1101
00:49:24,739 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: Where in Canada are you?

1102
00:49:26,780 --> 00:49:27,980
Speaker 3: I'm in Victoria.

1103
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 1: Nice.

1104
00:49:29,590 --> 00:49:35,029
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we always get mixed up with Victoria, Australia.

1105
00:49:35,489 --> 00:49:36,930
Speaker 1: I've still never been to Victoria.

1106
00:49:37,830 --> 00:49:38,590
Speaker 3: Yes, you have.

1107
00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 2: Have we?

1108
00:49:39,300 --> 00:49:40,739
Speaker 1: Yes, Melbourne is in Victoria.

1109
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,660
Speaker 2: Shit, I was thinking... Where was I? I was thinking Adelaide, sorry.

1110
00:49:45,340 --> 00:49:46,060
Speaker 2: That's bad for me.

1111
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:48,210
Speaker 1: That's funny.

1112
00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:51,250
Speaker 2: All right, thank you very much for signing off the episode, Jessica,

1113
00:49:51,270 --> 00:49:51,910
Speaker 2: and enjoy your night.

1114
00:49:52,310 --> 00:49:53,590
Speaker 1: Thank you. Bye.

1115
00:49:53,730 --> 00:49:55,530
Speaker 2: All right, baddies, thanks for listening.

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Speaker 1: We love you. Stay bad.