1 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: Hello, super Coaches, and welcome to our mid Range Bible 2 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: podcast for twenty twenty six. I personally think it's one 3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: of the best years for mid Rangers in Super Coach, 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: certainly in recent history, maybe even in history. The chatters 5 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: through it. We have Wilson Smith and Jet Hatton as well. 6 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: How's your team coming along? 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: Good so far? No changes from the last couple of weeks, 8 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: but I'm pretty I've gone a bit of a risky strategy, 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 2: but I'm pretty happy with how it's looking so far. 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 3: The risky strategy being. 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: I'm going big at hooker, front row, and center wing, 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: which are three positions that I normally never start the 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: season going big at. 14 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 3: I'm also kind of tending that way as well. How's 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 3: your team shaping up? Good? 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 4: Mate? Only four Sharks in the team this year. Yeah, 17 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 4: a bit lighter on than previous years, but naging good. 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 4: Haven't made any team changes last few weeks, but it's 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 4: going to heat up as the preseason gets closer. So 20 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 4: there we go. 21 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, lots of pods in there as well. 22 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: We can check out Jets team, Wilson's team, my team 23 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: as well. We've got a big announcement coming for Super 24 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: coach very shortly. 25 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: Something exciting is happening. 26 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: It's a super coach first, so check out our socials 27 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: for that information. I just want to quickly run through 28 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: a few bits of news that have unfolded in the 29 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: last few days or so, certainly in the last week, 30 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: since we're back, since we're in this studio. One is 31 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: that Siali fowl MANI and I apologize if I've got 32 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: that pronunciation wrong, but he is being backed by Travis Main, 33 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: who's a reporter up with the Titans in Queensland and 34 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: sounds like by the coach as well. He's been back 35 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: to start in a wing spot for the Titans for 36 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: round one. He's been compared to Brian too. Oh we're 37 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: hearing Brian to o'clone. If we've got a guy at 38 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: two hundred and one thousand dollars starting on wing who's 39 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: been compared to Brian to Or, then he has to 40 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: be in your Super Coach team. 41 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 42 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: I mean we've talked about it a bit that there's 43 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 2: there hasn't really been a few more than a few 44 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: standout center wing cheepers this year. So I mean, if 45 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: he if he's anything like Bryan Toor, and he is 46 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: a cheapye, then he becomes a bit of a must 47 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: have if he actually does get that spot. 48 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 3: So he's a. 49 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: Former Penrith player, and we're getting a lot of former 50 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: Penwifth players popping up at other clubs now as cheapis, 51 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: which is great, including David Farlay from the Dragons and 52 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: Losarti from the Storm. Both those guys came through the 53 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: Penrith system, and so did this guy. They've lost Brian Kelly. 54 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: The chat is from trav that they've got him on 55 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: a wing Jojo for Feeda on the other wing, So 56 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: if that happens. 57 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 4: A huge Yeah. They lost Can Perr as well. He's 58 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 4: obviously out the Worries now, so that left wing spot 59 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 4: is there. A Phil Eye was trying to figure out 60 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 4: who's going to fill that spot. I Tony Francis in 61 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 4: my team thinking and he could be smoky, but if 62 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 4: this guy's got his nose in front, I'll certainly just 63 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 4: downgrade him put him straight on our team. 64 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 3: Also at the Titans. 65 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: And I'll point out that at the Titans this year, 66 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: there is so there could be so many positions change, 67 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: but they're going to be an absolute super coach gold 68 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: mine at some stage. Not only do we have that 69 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: back line spot up for grabs, but Cooper Bye, very 70 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: popular in the back row for Supercoach, had an amazing 71 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: debut last year. 72 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: A lot of people are on him. 73 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: He's one of the more popular players in Super Coach 74 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: and we chatted about him in the Cheapy Bible a 75 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. But the Storm, we're trying to 76 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: get him to the club. If he signs for the 77 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: Storm in twenty twenty seven, it's not for this season. 78 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: Does that mean he is now just dead to Josh 79 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: Hannay and he doesn't get the minutes that. 80 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: We were hoping. 81 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think leaning in his favor is that 82 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: I think there is minutes up for grabs. We were 83 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: talking about it a bit off air before Jamen Joliffe 84 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: has done his ACL so that cause that could cause 85 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: a bit of a forward pack reshuffle at Titans, and 86 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: you'd think that Tino now moves back to front row, 87 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: Chris Randall could be shifting to lock and there could 88 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: be minutes for edge up for grabs. So Cooper Bike 89 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: could be a big winner from that. So I think, 90 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: you know, there is every chance that if he does 91 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 2: sign with Storm that they just opt to go with 92 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: someone else. But I think from what we saw in 93 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: his limited minutes last year that he has a lot 94 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: of talent and Titans need guys like that on that team. 95 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 2: So I reckon regardless he could be in for more minutes. 96 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: Titans really want to keep him, when the Storm really 97 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: want to own him. So this is going to be 98 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: It's going to be an interesting thing to watch. The 99 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: other issue I've got is that if he leaves and 100 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: they accelerate it to this season, then we've got Cooper by, 101 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: which does happen a fair bit where if they were like, look, 102 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: if you're gone, you may as well go now if 103 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: you've got Cooper bye. Now Melbourne Storm hasn't been under 104 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: their system, you'd think he'd be a fair way down 105 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: their list until he sort of proves himself to Bellamy. 106 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: What are you thinking? Yeah? 107 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 4: I agree, wellso in that I don't think him signing 108 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 4: with Melbourne will affect his minutes at all. I think 109 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 4: they sort of need options there and josh Anna's not 110 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 4: Sili coach. He's going to play their best players. They 111 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 4: want to make you run at the finals, So I 112 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 4: don't think that worries him at all. But yeah, I 113 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 4: agree if he does go to Melbourne early, it's gonna 114 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: be tough because they've got quite a bit of depth 115 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 4: in that back row of guys that have been there 116 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 4: for quite a few years, so you would think that 117 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 4: they have their heads in front of Cooper super coach. 118 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: Plus is of course twenty nine to ninety five for 119 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: the year. You have a free trial right now, so 120 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: I suggest you get in their play around, look at 121 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: the projections, look at the ownership stats, captaincy stats, all 122 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. You have a free trial until 123 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: the end of round two, so fiddle around now see 124 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: if you like it, and then round two comes around, 125 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: you can sign up for that product onto. Also, just 126 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: share your teams to social media as well. We love 127 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. First two mid Rangers picked for 128 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: this season. This is the mid Range Bible podcast. What 129 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: are you thinking? 130 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 3: Will say? 131 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 2: First off for me is Cam Murray comes in at 132 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: a massive discount this year because he only played one 133 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: game last year. I think he only scored twenty two 134 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 2: in that game coming off the bench, and so he 135 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: comes in at a massive discount. And this is a 136 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: guy who I've been looking at his numbers this morning. Actually, 137 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: for the previous three years he averaged sixty two, sixty three, 138 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: and seventy one. So this is a guy who is 139 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 2: a proven supercach gun that you can get at a 140 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: mid range price this year. So for me, he's just 141 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: a no brainer and I must have Yep. 142 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: We spoke about him in the Guns Podcast. He is 143 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: technically in the mid range range for this year, but 144 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: I put him in the Guns Podcast because I think 145 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: he will go from being a mid range guy to 146 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: being a gun this year. So he's in my sight 147 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: as well. Who's your number one mid ranger? 148 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 4: Picked Amu Stuwart? For me, I think he's in for 149 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 4: a massive year. Jack devellens ovis he going into the 150 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 4: eels now so someone needs to fill that number thirteen 151 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 4: Jersey and Shane Flanigan has a massive opinion of ham 152 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 4: Miss Stewart. I think he's going to play big minutes 153 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 4: and he's a big points per minutes guy. So last 154 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 4: year he knocked out one point one points per minute, 155 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 4: which is higher than Elie Catala, Dylan Lucas, all the 156 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 4: top guys in that position. So if he can get 157 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 4: sixty to sixty five minutes, I think he'll comfortably average 158 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 4: about sixty to seventy, and to me that makes you 159 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 4: must have to. 160 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: I do really like it, but I think there are 161 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: a lot of guys at to RF in the mid range. 162 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: We'll get to them all later. 163 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: It doesn't have that dual position for this season though 164 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: as well, which is a little bit annoying. So he 165 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: probably not quite in my top few two rfs for 166 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: mid range, but he could easily be there pretty pretty shortly. 167 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: So I do like that one. 168 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: My first I've chosen the obvious ones, first one being 169 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: Dave Feeder is the second most popular player in the 170 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: game as we currently speak, so not really telling super 171 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: coaches anything new. The thing that is new here is 172 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: that he picked up a rib injury at pre season training. 173 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: Hopefully only misses a week of training. It's not too serious, 174 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: but I will point out that it has affected the 175 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: pre season of the most popular player in super Coach 176 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: has been affected somewhat, but it's not enough for me 177 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: to trade him out of my side. 178 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely, I'm not too concerned about it at all. 179 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: He'll probably miss a week maybe two of training and 180 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: then he'll be straight back into it, and I'm really 181 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,679 Speaker 2: excited about it for feeder as well. My next pick 182 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: is so far longer at the Storm. Obviously, Ryan Papenhausen's gone, 183 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 2: so the fullback spot and Melbourne is up for grabs, 184 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: and he has looked really, really good playing at fullback 185 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: for them in the past. He's mostly played off the 186 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 2: bench or wing last year, but obviously the opportunity is 187 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: there now and I'm pretty sure they've confirmed that he 188 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: will get first crack at fullback. So really really exciting 189 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: player and yeah, must have as well. 190 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, the numbers make sense on him. So 191 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: last year on the wing averaged fifty eight. You think 192 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: he can up that to seventy this year. They've got 193 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: a goodbye schedule. Will he be a keeper for the 194 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: entire season, not sure, but he's still a really good purchase, 195 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: so hard to ignore even though fullback is such a 196 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: red hot spot and he doesn't have CCW this year. 197 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 3: What do you think for so far though, Yeah, I. 198 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 4: Think you could fade him. I've got it in my team. 199 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 4: He's one of my favorite players to watch. But there's 200 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 4: a lot of options at the fullback position and you 201 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 4: sort of don't want to go away from Keanu Kinney 202 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 4: just because of his upside is incredible and he's a 203 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,119 Speaker 4: safe pick. But yeah, don't I don't see the playmaking 204 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 4: there yet of Sulla and he also makes a lot 205 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 4: of mistakes which gets me worried on a team coach 206 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 4: by Craig Bellamy. But it's hard to turn up turn 207 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 4: away from the fullback in the Melbourn storm at that price. 208 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, while we're talking about fullback, go was butt in 209 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: with my one? Now it is Keanu Kidney who you mentioned. 210 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: He's for me. He's the top guy to bring in 211 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: at fullback and one of the top guys of the 212 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: entire season. So his price is based on an average 213 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: of forty five. Yet he could pretty easily average seventy 214 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: I think, and he's done that in the past. He's 215 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: got the huge work rate which far Longo doesn't have. 216 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: So Kinny is he an absolute must? 217 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent. He averaged about seventy two in 218 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, takes runs like he's prime. Joey Marno 219 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 4: thirty runs a game in the World Cup. Was it's 220 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 4: something that something ridiculous. But yeah, you've got to have 221 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 4: Ginny in your side. 222 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 3: And who's your final mid and you're. 223 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 4: Talking to David Feeder before someone that reminds me of 224 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 4: a young David Feeder, quick, fast, agile, huge, big, leka 225 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 4: hala Sema. I think he's must have like supercoach. To me, 226 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, it's about having guys 227 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 4: in your team that exciting. Watching Lekalos Seema is exciting. 228 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, you're not going to have a board Friday 229 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: night watching the Warriors when Halla Seema's in your team. 230 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: The only issue I've got is that does he actually 231 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: get this eighty minutes. I know the coach has spoken 232 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 1: about and says he needs you know, he needs to 233 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: be an eighty minute player. 234 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 3: He should be an eighty minute. 235 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: Player, but has he done enough in the off season 236 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: to win press the coach to say, look, you can 237 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: be trusted with eighty minutes each week. And I don't 238 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: know what the answer is yet, but if we see 239 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: any indication or you know, Andrew Webster comes out and 240 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: says that that's going to happen, then one hundred percent 241 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: is in my side. 242 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 4: I don't think it matters if he plays eighty minutes 243 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 4: like he's got a big work rate. If he even 244 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 4: plays that sixty or sixty five minutes. It allows you 245 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 4: more time to go harder, and you know, with those 246 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 4: big explosive plays that we know he's capable of. So 247 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 4: he plays sixty five minutes, it doesn't worry him at all. 248 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 4: So if he plays eighty, it's nice, but it's it's 249 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 4: not going to turn me off if he doesn't play it. 250 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: We've got heaps of content up now. I know this 251 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: is only what our fifth podcast of the season, but 252 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: we we've been going for a long time. We've got 253 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: content up since October, so check that out. Cheaping bibles up, 254 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: all our teams are up, wilso as Draft rankings is 255 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: going to be a fresh one coming up pretty soon, 256 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: plus your Draft sleepers, which I think is ugly more 257 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: important than the actual draft rankings themselves, so check out 258 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: the site for that. 259 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 3: In the new section of the app. 260 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: For the next segment, we're just going to run through 261 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: the most popular guys. 262 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 3: In the mid range range, and. 263 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: David Fafeeda we've already started with, so I think we 264 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: all agree on him, even with that recent injury issue 265 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: at the Rabbit O's training, he is a guy to 266 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: get into your team. Keano Kinney is second on the 267 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: list of fifty percent ownership. I personally think he should 268 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: be higher than that, but we've already spoken about him. 269 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: Sua far Loongo is third. Again we've spoken about him, 270 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: So we end up with Reed Marny. I like him 271 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: going from the Bulldogs to the Cowboys. He was frozen 272 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: out by the Bulldogs, but he should play eighty minutes 273 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: at the Cowboys. The issue I've got is that they've 274 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: bought Sonny Luke to the club, so does he cut 275 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: into Reed Marny's minutes. Remember he averaged about sixty minutes 276 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: last year, so he really does need to play eighty 277 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: minutes to be a solid super coach purchase this year. 278 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that they've lost Carl Lawton as well, who's 279 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 2: sort of filling in on that bench utility role a 280 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: little bit. But I still I think that they've brought 281 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: in Red Marney to be an eighty minute guy. Obviously, 282 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: Sonny Luke getting signed as well is a bit concerning, 283 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: and that he's every chance, or even if not him, 284 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: someone else is a chance of getting like a bench 285 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: spot which could take some minutes away from Marney, who 286 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 2: I've been looking at his numbers and I actually think 287 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: Red Money kind of does need to be an eighty 288 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: minute guy to be a worthwhile purchase. Even if he doesn't, 289 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: he will still make money. But I think personally, I 290 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 2: just think he actually needs to be playing that eighty 291 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: minute role to be worth it forciber coach, and I 292 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 2: personally think he will actually get that role, but there 293 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: is some risk there for sure. 294 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: The other thing to point out we're talking about eighty 295 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: minutes is that he's replacing a guy up there in 296 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: Reees Robson who basically played eighty minutes most weeks. You 297 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: look at his minutes and they're really only down over 298 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: origin averaged in the mid to high seventies for minutes 299 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: last year. So if you're looking for a like so 300 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: like for like replacement, Reed Marney probably is that guy. 301 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: Your thoughts on Marney. 302 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 4: They do have Harris Edwards on the bench. Yeah, he 303 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 4: played dummy half all through junior footy up up on 304 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 4: the mid North Coast, so he can easily slot in 305 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 4: there for twenty minutes a game and he's a big 306 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 4: body they can just throw out there. So to me, 307 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 4: I'm not convinced he's an eighty minute player and at 308 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 4: the dummy half position, I honestly think you just either 309 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 4: go Braley or Grant and just just don't worry about 310 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 4: any no one else. 311 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, some other good options there. I'm sorry if I'm 312 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: stealing someone's pod for later on. If the manly guy, yeah, Jacson, Yeah, 313 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: let's work for you. You got Brandon Smith who is 314 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: seems to be impressing in the offseason. He's off the 315 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: booze as well, so he's a guy he can bring 316 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: in at cheap your range as well, so we do 317 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: have lots of hookers on offer. Trey Mooney, he's moved 318 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: from the rabbit Os. Sorry it's from the Raiders to 319 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: the Knights. The only issue I've got with him, I 320 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: think he is a really talented guy. He's got so 321 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: much attack, which is great for super coach, But he 322 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: averaged fifty seven points last year in thirty nine minutes, 323 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: so he's PPM is crazy lots of attacking stats in 324 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: there only four games, so I feel like it's probably 325 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: not sustainable what he did last year at the Raiders, 326 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: but he should improve on that thirty nine minutes as well. 327 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: For me, it basically evens out. I think he'll probably 328 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: average what he did last year in only those four games. 329 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 3: At the Raiders. 330 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely don't think it's sustainable. I think the 331 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: fact that he was coming off the bench, I think 332 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: in those games for the Raiders limited minutes, he was 333 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 2: able to just come out and you know, punch out 334 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: at massive workload. I think he will be starting at 335 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: the Knights this year. That there's I'm blanking on his name. 336 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: But he went to the Bulldogs tho, Yeah, Leah Thompson's 337 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: gone and well yeah, so there is a massive opportunity 338 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: for him there, and I think his PPM will come down. 339 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: But even if it doesn't, he can if he can 340 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: maintain a one point PPM and he will see more 341 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: minutes this year, so he could still score relatively around 342 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 2: the same and he'll be a bit more consistent that 343 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: if he is starting. So I've got him in my team. 344 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: I really really like him. But if it all hinderes 345 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: on him actually starting, if he comes off the bench, 346 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: he would be an absolutely no go for me. 347 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 4: He's just awkwardly priced for me as well. It's not 348 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 4: if he was eighty k cheaper, closer to that three 349 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 4: hundred late three hundreds mark, I'd have him in. But 350 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 4: he's just awkwardly priced about mid four hundred k. So 351 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 4: they got another guy that like Jermaine McEwan and you 352 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 4: can have him the same spot. And I prefer his 353 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 4: job security and minutes. So I like Trey Mooney. I 354 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 4: think he's a good player, but yeah, just awkwardly priced 355 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 4: for me. 356 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: I was going to say exactly the same thing. I 357 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: don't think he is the best mid ranger at the club. 358 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: And we'll get to McEwan at a sec. Mitchell Moses. 359 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: We did mention him in the Top Guns podcast last week, 360 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: but he actually is in the mid range this year 361 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: after what was a pretty poor season mainly due to 362 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: injury last year at the Eels, should pick up the. 363 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 3: Goal kicking, tough run. There's so many things to weigh 364 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 3: up here. 365 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's a proven gun with the past, 366 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: and he with Lomax gone, he should be kicking goals again, 367 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: so that will really really help him. But I think 368 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: I've said in previous podcasts that I don't think he's 369 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: a guy that I am interested in starting with at 370 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: the season, just because of the tough run to start. 371 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: But I think he is a prime upbraid candidate. You know, 372 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: a few months into the season, especially with all this 373 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,239 Speaker 2: Chiv halves. So he's not the one I'm looking at 374 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: starting with, but he's someone who I think will be 375 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 2: good to bring in later on in the season. 376 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with also sort of a few months 377 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 4: ago before I started looking at the drawer, I had 378 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 4: him my team just because of the price. But that 379 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 4: first five rounds is just it's an absolute gaunt. Let's 380 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 4: say I couldn't go there. 381 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 3: Onto Brian To. 382 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: We mentioned that there's Brian To or clone up there 383 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: at Titans who is extremely popular and he's surging through 384 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: the most popular players in Super Coach. But Brian and 385 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: We did mention him last week in the in the 386 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: Top Guns podcast, so go and check that out. But 387 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: for me, he's averaged sort of seventy in the past 388 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 1: and only average sixty last year. I think the main 389 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 1: reason was that he was just basically injured the entire year. 390 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: He had knee issues, hamstring issue. Is how bad are 391 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: those problems that like they're the sort of thing that 392 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: you can carry through your entire career. As soon as 393 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: you get a couple of hamstring injuries, does that become 394 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: a problem for him going forward? Plus he has one 395 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: of the toughest, the toughest schedule in the comp by 396 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: a long way. 397 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 3: So I'm going to fade Bryan. Oh, he's not for me. 398 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 2: I've got him in my team at the moment, but 399 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 2: he's not someone I'm sold on, just because they do 400 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: have such a rough start to the season that I 401 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 2: think if you go with him, he will lead cash early. 402 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 2: But he's just for me, assuming he has gotten over 403 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 2: his injury. Was He's probably one of the best at 404 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: center wing in terms of bass, so he will be 405 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 2: punching out a lot of work and hopefully Panther's attack 406 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: clicks a bit more again this year and he can 407 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 2: actually get back to his previous best form because he, 408 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 2: like you said, he did have a pretty severe drop 409 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: off last year. He was still one of the best 410 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: at the position, but for his own standards, it was 411 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: a bit of a drop off. So I have some concerns. 412 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: But he's in my team for now, but I'm by 413 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: no means locked in on him. 414 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to see him streaming together a few 415 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 4: games before I go near him. Just say, soft tissue injuries, 416 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 4: they just scare me, especially with the guy with as 417 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 4: many miles on his legs as Bryan too does and 418 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 4: at the same time, Penrith aren't the same team they 419 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 4: were when he was averaging that seventy a game. So 420 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 4: they're top four side now, they're not the clear number 421 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 4: one side in the comp. So I think I'll wait 422 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 4: to tye. 423 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: I'll definitely wait, and there could be a situation where 424 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: he's really cheap in about round six or round seven 425 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: and can get on then knowing that you probably have 426 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: Origin coming up as well. Cody Walker very very popular, 427 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: three hundred and ninety nine k played off the bench 428 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: last year for a fair bit, but he still did 429 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: average sixty two minutes. You're getting him at a huge discount, 430 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: but he's thirty six. Soft tissue injuries or an issue 431 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: for him. Plus I already have about four rabbit os 432 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: as is, so you get that round four by and 433 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: he completely cooked. 434 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 3: If you've got all of Latrell. I'm a Murray Dave feeder. 435 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 3: Campbell Graham is really popular. There's so many guys at 436 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 3: the rabbit O's this year. 437 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, Cody Walker was a gun of 438 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: the past, but I think his best supercoach form is 439 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: well behind him. He's struggled for a couple of years now, 440 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 2: and like you said, he's thirty six years old. He's 441 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: getting towards the end of his career, and so the 442 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 2: numbers for me just don't add up, and I would 443 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 2: not be going there at all. That being said, I 444 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: think most people are pretty bullish on the rabbit O's 445 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: this year being you know, if not really good, like 446 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: at least significantly better than they were last year. So 447 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: you know, if they if they are firing well, he 448 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 2: could be a big part of that, especially on that 449 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: left edge. If he's got you know, David Frieda and 450 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 2: Latrelle outside him, they could link up and you know, 451 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 2: make some magic. But I think it's just too risky. 452 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 4: That's the law, isn't it. The players outside him David 453 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 4: feel La trom mitchell a j as well, but at 454 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 4: his age, with the soft tissue injuries that he's had, 455 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 4: it's just so hard to trust him. So we have 456 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 4: to let Cody go through to the keep up. 457 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: Plus you've got two really solid cheapies in that position too. 458 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 3: Look at ow. 459 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: I know I keep mentioning all these old podcasts, but 460 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: look at our cheap Bible podcast Ethan Sanders, Kobe Daniel 461 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: Akinson as well, plus he got another good cheapie at 462 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: five eight in Jonah Peazant, So can you fit in 463 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: Jonah Pezzant and Cody Walker, who you're basically going not 464 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: two cheapis, but it's almost like you're going two cheapies 465 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: at five eights. So for me, it's not for me. 466 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: But I can see why people are getting on Jermaine 467 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: hop Good. What are your thoughts. I originally had him 468 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: as one of the best prop guys in Supercoach. Averaged 469 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: seventy to end the season at PROP compared to a 470 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: season average of fifty three, so he is underpriced. Having 471 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: said that, all these cheapeas are popping up at center 472 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: wing now in the halves, I think the prop is 473 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: a position that you can probably spend a little bit 474 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: more on than I was first considering. So Jermaine Hopgood 475 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: has actually left my team right now and AF fought 476 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: in paying hearts instead huge. 477 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I like Jamaine Hopgood and he was 478 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: good at the end of last year after they stopped 479 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: using him as hooker and in the middle, actually more 480 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: in the middle a little bit. But you mentioned before, 481 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 2: and I hadn't actually thought about it, But Jack de 482 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 2: Bellen is now at Paramatta as well. So you know 483 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: there's every chance that Jamaine Hopgood doesn't actually play at 484 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: PROP this year. So he was already not in my team, 485 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 2: but I think I'm fading him even more now. 486 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think I even considered Jermaine Hopgood, to 487 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 4: be honest. I think that one season he had as 488 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 4: a bit of you know, blasts in the past. I 489 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 4: think what we saw for him last year is what 490 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 4: we'll get most of this year, especially with Jack de 491 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 4: Bellen in there. Twenty two percent way too high for me. 492 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: He had a serious neck injury in his past and 493 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: it's not recent, but anyone who's had a serious neck 494 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: injury or even problems with concussion, if it's a fifty 495 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: to fifty call, I'm just like no. So he was 496 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: a guy who I was really keen on at the 497 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: start of the season, but he's slowly going down the 498 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: list with all the other buys coming up. Another guy 499 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: he could get in the front row. Tom Flegler, speaking 500 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: of serious nerve injuries, it's had a really bad one 501 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: in his shoulder. If he plays in Round one, and 502 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: the chat is that he is, he won't have played 503 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: for about seven hundred days, so I'm all around this. 504 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: I want to see Tom Flegler back, He's played for 505 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: Australia's played for the Marons. I want this to happen. 506 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: Super coach wise, I think it's too much of a risk. 507 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: The word is that he will trial and then if 508 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: he goes well on the trial, he will actually play 509 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: in round one. So he's cheap, arguably a cheapy right 510 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: on the borderline of being a cheapy a mid ranger. 511 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: But I think Perseca at a very sort of similar 512 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: price would be the guy that i'd go for. 513 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love to see Filgla back on the 514 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 2: field as well, but for in terms of supercoach, I 515 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: think it's just way too big a risk. This is 516 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: a guy who basically hasn't played in two years, so 517 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: I think there's just way too many risks there. Plus, 518 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 2: if he does come back, they'll probably like be bringing 519 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 2: him off the bench, which if you if you're going 520 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: for a front row cheaper who's probably going to come 521 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,239 Speaker 2: off the bench, I think there's better options, or like 522 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 2: you said, Posaco who's a little bit more but is 523 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 2: actually going to start for Manly. So there's way too 524 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: many alarm bells for me. But that being said, if 525 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 2: he looks good during the trials and he looks fit 526 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: and healthy, like there is a chance he actually starts 527 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 2: round one, so and if that were the case, he 528 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 2: would be far more tempting. But for now, I think 529 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 2: there's just way too many red flags. 530 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just couldn't go there for all the reasons 531 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 4: both you guys mentioned. But there's Jesse Calhoun there as well. 532 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 4: Simil are like three hundred and thirty thousand starting at 533 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 4: the Sharks, so there's a lot of good options there 534 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 4: at that's sort of three hundred k price at the 535 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 4: front row. So I think with all the wrists around Flegler, 536 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 4: it'll just been nice to see him back, but top 537 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 4: coach wise after them go. 538 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, so many good mid ranges, particularly in the forwards 539 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: this year with the guys you've just mentioned. You know 540 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: Hamie Stewart as well. Calhoun's got the dual position. You've 541 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: got like a Hallis Seman who's next on his list, 542 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: and Hami Stewart who's next on his list, who we've 543 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: spoken about already, so we won't chat about him. Jamaine McEwen, 544 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: I really like Kyle Piace. Paul has gone Tyson. Frazzelle 545 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: is a middle now we think, although he did say 546 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: he was training a little bit on the edge. So 547 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: just Jamaine McEwen come in play Kyle Pias Paul's role 548 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 1: from last year, which was essentially eighty minutes on an edge. 549 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: It could happen. 550 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: It looks like it's very likely and if it does happen, 551 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: then he is one hundred percent in my super coach team. 552 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely, And he played eighty minutes for I 553 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 2: think the final six games of last year when they 554 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: had other injuries, so and during that period he looked good. 555 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 2: But he comes in at a cheaper price than what 556 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 2: he averaged then, obviously because he had a few games 557 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: off the bench. But yeah, Kuypeiss Paul gone, there's eighty 558 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: minutes up for grabs on an edge there, and you'd 559 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: have to think, given he passed the eye test last year, 560 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 2: so I think you'd have to think that he gets 561 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: that spot. And I think he's basically must have. 562 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 4: Where's Thomas can't he. 563 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: Was you know, he was playing a bit of edges 564 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: thinking about Dylan Lucas was yeah, yeah, and he's basically enormous. 565 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 3: Frazelle's we think moved to the middle. 566 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: There's all sorts of things going on at the Knights, 567 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: and well, look we may as well fast forward to 568 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: another guy at the Knight's number nineteen on our list 569 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: at eleven percent, sand And Smith. 570 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 3: So does he play? 571 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: So the news last week I'll start with this is 572 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: that Dylan Brown has been training at number six. Does 573 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: this mean that Sandon Smith, who has been training at 574 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: number seven but also training at hooker, does he start 575 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: at seven? Does he start at hooker or does he 576 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 1: become that sort of bench utility who probably comes on 577 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: and mostly plays hooker for a little bit to relieve 578 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: someone like Phenis Crossland. 579 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 3: I have no idea. 580 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: I don't know why he is eleventh at eleven percent 581 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: and nineteenth on our mid ranger list. But Sander Smith, 582 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: we get some confirmation that he is starting in that team, 583 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: potentially takes the goalkicking if he does that too, because 584 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: his goalkicking record is actually quite good. Does he become 585 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: an option for super coach? 586 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, if we get a good mail that 587 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: he actually is starting, whether it's at half back or hooker, 588 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,239 Speaker 2: I think he becomes incredibly tempting. But I think that 589 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 2: the fact that there's just so much uncertainty at the 590 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 2: moment means for now he's definitely one to just avoid 591 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 2: completely until we get some more concrete mail. But yeah, 592 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 2: if it turns out that he is actually going to 593 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 2: start one of those positions, I would be very tempted 594 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 2: to get him in, especially like you said, he'll be 595 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 2: probably kicking goals. So but for now, I think there's 596 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: just way too much uncertainty there. 597 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what will you'd move Fletcher Sharp 598 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 4: their best player by a long way last year out 599 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 4: of the half, so it just doesn't make sense to me. 600 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 4: You know, you're not going to bring in Dylan Brown 601 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 4: and not start him, so for me, it's either he 602 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 4: plays hooker or off the bench. 603 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 3: I think. 604 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 2: I think pong has been missing a bit of training lately, 605 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: so Sharp has been practicing at fullback a bit, okay, 606 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 2: but you'd have to think that I'm pretty sure they've 607 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 2: said that Ponger will be fit for round one, so 608 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 2: you'd have to think when he's back at training that 609 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 2: they you know, they overhaul their back line and Sharp 610 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: goes to six and Brown to seven. But I think 611 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: for now, just because Ponger hasn't been there, they may 612 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: have been training differently, but it still just raises a 613 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: ton of questions. 614 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 4: They are one game off the back of Fletcher Sharp 615 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 4: all year, so that was him playing six. I don't 616 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 4: know why you'd move him out of there. 617 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: There are some really good quotes from Tyson Frazil in 618 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: our Predict Teams story. Check out the new section of 619 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: the app, which basically goes exactly what Wilso just said. 620 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 3: Onto Se and Cobbo so fifty four average last year. 621 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: Now at the Dolphins, the coach is essentially confirmed in 622 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: a wing spot there, which is good, but would you 623 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: be paying I mean he's pretty expensive, priced an average 624 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: of fifty four. 625 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 2: I would not be going there yet. I mean that 626 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: left wing spot at the Dolphins has been you know, 627 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 2: super coach gold like I can't remember his name, coming 628 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 2: back from Jack Bostock, and they had another young cheap 629 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 2: he there after Bostock did his acl A yeah, and 630 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: they were all scoring pretty well. But so you know, 631 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: there's a good opportunity for him there. But how long 632 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 2: does he actually have it because I think Bostock is 633 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: expected back from around round eight, So Cobbo is expensive 634 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: and him it'll be interesting to see what they do 635 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: when Bosstok is actually fit again, because Cobbo could easily 636 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: be out of that side. So for me, there's potential there, 637 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: but he's just too it's just an awkward price for me. 638 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, he doesn't do enough either. Yeah, he's got that 639 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 4: attacking upside when they're in the red zone, but outside 640 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 4: of their own fifty meters, he just doesn't run the 641 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 4: footy enough. I've had Cobo in my team for the 642 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 4: last two years and you're just so frustrated because he's 643 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 4: so big and he's so talented, but yes, doesn't insert 644 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 4: himself to the games when you'd want him to. So 645 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 4: to me, with the questions on his job security plus 646 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 4: that factor, I just can't go near him. 647 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 648 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: I think this is also a little bit of a 649 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: hangover from when there were no cheapies like in that 650 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: center wing position, whereas now we've got quite a few who, 651 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: although they're not confirmed, are looking pretty good. You've got 652 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,959 Speaker 1: the two Dragons guys and sets It too, and David Farlay. 653 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: You got Tom Chester at the Cowboys, Macasini and the 654 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: young Titan who we spoke about earlier. So he got 655 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: five pretty you know. Okay, cheapis popping up in that 656 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: position when really earlier in the preseason we've probably only 657 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: had one in Makasini being really popular, So. 658 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 3: No Cobbo for me. 659 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: Toby Kuchman at the Dragons, he showed last year that 660 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: he could be an absolute gun go from the mid 661 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: range to being a keeper. Then he suffered two shoulder injuries, 662 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,959 Speaker 1: so you're getting him at a price where he's had 663 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: two injury effected games. I still think coming back from 664 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: those shoulder injuries, it's a no for me. When you 665 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: can get guys who we've mentioned before in this podcast, 666 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: they're a little bit cheaper and I think more reliable. 667 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he has looked good and like we said, 668 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 2: there is minutes up for grabs at the Dragons this 669 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 2: year in their forward pack. But yeah, like you said, 670 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: the injuries are last year a little bit concerning. But 671 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing for me is that there's 672 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 2: just better guys at the position who are cheaper or 673 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: have more upsides. So I don't hate it, but I 674 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: think there's just you can do better. Yeah. 675 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 4: I love Toby kash and he's got the jewel which 676 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 4: is always handy. But for me, I looked to upgrade 677 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 4: though those guys in you know, round nine, round ten 678 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 4: when they're peaking to a Tobe Cauchrim, whereas he'll probably 679 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 4: stick around that price at the start of the year. 680 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 4: Maybe his minutes they will be when it's you know, 681 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 4: later later in the year. But I love Toby Cashman, 682 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 4: but I just couldn't go in with that injury history. 683 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: Campbell Graham very popular another rabbit O, and I've mentioned 684 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: already owing too many rabbit O's absolute suicide for round four, 685 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: which is when they have the buy. 686 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 3: He's just a little bit down the. 687 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: List for me at the rabbit Oz coming off such 688 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: a huge injury layoff. 689 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 3: He's barely played in a couple of years. 690 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: I know he's got that potential, he's played lots of 691 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: red footy, but it's too risky for me. 692 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely, Like the injury concerns are already alarming, 693 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 2: but then you add in that there's already a bunch 694 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 2: of much more supercoach relevant rabbit Oz players, And then 695 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: there's also a chance that he actually gets pushed from 696 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: center to wing this year. And I was actually looking 697 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 2: at his numbers before and for some reason, I thought 698 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 2: his numbers are at wing back in I think he 699 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 2: last played win consistently in like twenty nineteen. I thought 700 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 2: his numbers were a lot better, but they were actually 701 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 2: kind of disappointing. So pass like he hasn't played much 702 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 2: in the last two years and wingers need to, you know, 703 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 2: take the ball up a lot more than they did 704 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 2: I think when he was last playing there. So there's 705 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 2: just way too many red flags here. 706 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, not for me either. 707 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: And finally, I know that you are for this guy, 708 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: Sam stone Street thirteen percent, probably a little bit over 709 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: what I was the ownership I was expecting, but should 710 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: get a wing spot there at the Sharkis with Ronaldo 711 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: Mortale out the season. 712 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, the all important is he's on the left 713 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 4: hand side this year, started the right last year when 714 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 4: Star was out for the first half of the year, 715 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 4: and they just get less ball there on that right 716 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 4: hand side and been outside Jesse Rayman's obviously a lot 717 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 4: less different to being outside k Hero. So I think 718 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 4: is at a good price. He's definitely under price. His 719 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 4: base isn't as good as more Tylo or Kataro, so 720 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 4: you can't expect him to be punching out more Tylo's 721 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 4: scores consistently, but there's a lot of attack in that 722 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 4: Shark's team, and he will get you one or two 723 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 4: tries every week mostly, so I think he's a He's 724 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 4: a good pick. I'm going to have him in my 725 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 4: team because I love him, but there's definitely other options around. 726 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 3: Just the fourth sharking will say, correct. 727 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got him on my team at the moment 728 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 2: as well. I'm interested in him. Like you said, he's 729 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 2: not a base stat machine like some of the other 730 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 2: options at the position, but he is inheriting a spot 731 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 2: that notoriously has scored a lot of tries for the 732 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 2: last few years, so I think the attacking upside is 733 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 2: really there. I think he does need a try for 734 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 2: big scores, but I mean Ronaldo's scores pretty much every week, 735 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 2: so the opportunity is certainly there for him to go. 736 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, if he was back on the right, I 737 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 4: wouldn't go there. But because he's on the left, it's 738 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 4: just such a gold mining super. 739 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: Coach final segment of the show where he's going to 740 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: pick out top pod from the mid range range? 741 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 3: What are you thinking, willso Well? 742 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,240 Speaker 2: We alluded to him before, but I've got Jake Sinkin 743 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 2: at Manly there's he's I think the final seven games 744 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 2: last year for Manley he played the whole eighty minutes 745 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: or close to so there's a massive opportunity for him there. 746 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 2: But he's priced at an average of about forty nine, 747 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 2: I think, so you know, he could be really good, 748 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 2: especially if he does keep playing eighty minutes for Manley, 749 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 2: which I think he's a very good chance of actually 750 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 2: doing because Manly have lost Jastavanger, Gordon Chan Kamtong and 751 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 2: you know, a bunch of other hook hookers and signed 752 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 2: Zach Doca Clay from the Roosters as sort of a backup. 753 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 2: So I think there's a massive opportunity for the for 754 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 2: him there to keep playing eighty minutes. And if he does, 755 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 2: he averaged sixty two when he was playing eighty minutes 756 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 2: last year, So I think he's muddy tempting. 757 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I really like it. It's probably read Marney versus 758 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: him in my team at the moment, and I'm just 759 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 1: leaning towards Marni right now, but that could easily change 760 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: during the offseason. 761 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 3: Who's your big pod? 762 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 4: For me? It is a massive pod. But I expect 763 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 4: if we got mail that he was going to start 764 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 4: that he's his owner ship would skyrocket. I'm not sure 765 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 4: what it is at the moment, but it's Blake Steep 766 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:12,919 Speaker 4: for me at the Chookies. I think he's the next 767 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 4: big thing to come through the Rooster's system. He had 768 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 4: a strong run last year in the Origin period when 769 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 4: most of their guys were in Origin Judy had Angus 770 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 4: Krichton Away and all those other guys. So he slotted 771 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 4: in in the middle, played thirteen fifty five minutes a game, 772 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 4: knocked out a seventy average over that run, so his 773 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 4: last was a fifty and he played forty minutes that game. 774 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 4: So if he gets a starting spot, which I think 775 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 4: he genuinely could, if Nafahu White moves back into front 776 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 4: row obviously he deputized at thirteen a lot last year, 777 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 4: I think it could be a massive, massive place. So 778 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 4: he's sub four hundred K and he's a gun. 779 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, Look, I had him for a bunch of 780 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: weeks in my draft League of Origin and he was sensational. 781 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: So I absolutely see what you were saying, and one 782 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 1: hundred percent agree that there are opportunities at the Roosters 783 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: in their forward pack. Victor Radley's obviously suspended for a 784 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: little bit. At the start of the year. You mentioned 785 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: Nafarho White, who kind of I guess lockdown a lock 786 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: spot there late in the season, but is also noted 787 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: as front rower. The guy who I like his se Wong, 788 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: who should play on an edge with Victor Radley out, 789 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: he should improve his minutes big time there as well. 790 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 1: So look, I mean I think we all agree, big 791 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: opportunities in the rooster's forward pack. 792 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, we just have to wait and see really how 793 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 4: it all plays out, how the preseason sort of shapes up. 794 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 4: That's the great thing about Supercaps. We haet to see 795 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 4: him play a few games, so we'll see how they 796 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 4: all line up. But yeah, se Wog, he's the same. 797 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 4: But yeah, big big opportunities in coming. 798 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I sort of view them pretty much the same. 799 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 2: But I think if I had to have one, I 800 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 2: would lean see a Wong. But Blake step is a 801 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 2: guy that even if he doesn't start the year, if 802 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 2: they get one injury in the back row, he could 803 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 2: be a massive beneficiary. So I like both of them. 804 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 4: It'd be interesting in draft. Sorry, it would be interesting 805 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 4: in draft sort of like you know, if you want 806 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 4: to reach for him and you know, take him early, 807 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,919 Speaker 4: but it could be nice. 808 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 3: Sorry to cut off, I was going to say exactly 809 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 3: the same thing. Is he on your sleepers list? 810 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 2: For not currently on the sleepers list, but he could 811 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 2: be one of the sleepers to watch right. 812 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 3: That story is coming out very soon, so look out 813 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 3: for it. Big thanks to Will, so big. Thanks to Jet. 814 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 3: We'll catch you next week.