WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 21 January

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<v Speaker 1>On Sky Lives Australia. This is the winder Panale Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panehe Show. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Danikiti Giorgio. Coming up tonight number forty seven. Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>is officially sworn in as President of the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>We will have full coverage of the historic event with

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<v Speaker 2>Kosher Gada. Is this the end of woke? Trump immediately

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<v Speaker 2>signs executive orders only recognizing male and female genders and

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<v Speaker 2>has also banned DEEI programs. Josh Hammer is standing by

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<v Speaker 2>Max Abrams on the president's crackdown on Mexican cartels and

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<v Speaker 2>illegal aliens, and of course left he's losing it as

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<v Speaker 2>we say farewell to a man who resembled a potato

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<v Speaker 2>instead of a president.

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<v Speaker 3>America is a nation that can be defined in a

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<v Speaker 3>single word.

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<v Speaker 2>I was joining me now is Sky News contributor Koshergada. Kosher,

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<v Speaker 2>great to see you, Thank you so much. Look, it's

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<v Speaker 2>been a huge day. Has it a very historic day,

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<v Speaker 2>not just for the United States but for the whole world.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot to get through, but firstly I want

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<v Speaker 2>to start on this because Donald Trump has signed pardons

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<v Speaker 2>for around fifteen hundred participants in the January sixth, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one riot at the US Capitol Kosher.

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<v Speaker 4>He was always going to do that. He's surprised so.

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<v Speaker 2>That this was his first port of call.

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<v Speaker 5>This was definitely a key signature issue. Expectations among his

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<v Speaker 5>base were very, very high. There was a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>of a question mark. There were some reports coming out

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<v Speaker 5>there that maybe he won't do all of them, maybe

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<v Speaker 5>it won't be a blanket pardon possibly, and there was

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit of a civil war going on within

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<v Speaker 5>his base about that. But he delivered to them. And

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<v Speaker 5>I think on the heels of what Biden did today,

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<v Speaker 5>which is the other big story of all his pardons

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<v Speaker 5>preemptively to controversial figures and his family members, he just

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<v Speaker 5>really paved the way for this. I think it's all

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<v Speaker 5>fifteen hundred. There's six people where he's commuted their sentences,

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<v Speaker 5>and they might eventually result in a pardon, but all

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<v Speaker 5>in this is a full cleansing of what pretty much

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<v Speaker 5>most of the country as an order prosecution of Americans

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<v Speaker 5>have been in there for four years, with the punishment

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<v Speaker 5>that far outpeaced the crimes committed.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and I think that there will be a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of supporters celebrating this decision. But yeah, interesting, it was

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<v Speaker 2>one of his first orders. But speaking of Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>has signed more than two hundred executive orders on his

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<v Speaker 2>first day. I've got to say kosher. He really wasted

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<v Speaker 2>no time because you look at the footage. He went

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<v Speaker 2>from the inauguration to the actual celebrations themselves, and then

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly he was ushered into an office where the cameras

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<v Speaker 2>were on him as he was signing one executive order

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<v Speaker 2>after another. What are some of the key items on

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<v Speaker 2>that list?

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, it's unlike anything I've ever seen, at

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<v Speaker 5>least in the past several presidents. It's because six months

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<v Speaker 5>leading up to this, he already had funded, privately funded

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<v Speaker 5>his transition team, and all of these ducks were in

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<v Speaker 5>a row ready to go legally, and everything else on

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<v Speaker 5>his desk. It spans again at the pardons, like we

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<v Speaker 5>just talked about hiring freezers for the federal government, forcing

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<v Speaker 5>people to come back into work physically in the office

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<v Speaker 5>five days a week. Post COVID declaring a national emergency

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<v Speaker 5>at the border, which is going to unlock a whole

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<v Speaker 5>host of other things that come out of that. On

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<v Speaker 5>his immigration issue, we're drawing from certain international agreements. We're

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<v Speaker 5>drawing from the World Health Organization, which many people are

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<v Speaker 5>angry about post COVID. And there's another of fifteen that

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not even mentioning.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's fair enough. I do want to go through

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<v Speaker 2>some of the more international ones soon. But it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like he's really trying to clean up the public service

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<v Speaker 2>with these executive executive orders. Why do you think that

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<v Speaker 2>is a priority for Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 5>That's one thing where with the swipe of a pen

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<v Speaker 5>he can do it, because that is where the executive

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<v Speaker 5>branch has jurisdiction, that's in his purview. And a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of it is just enforcing laws around the books or

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<v Speaker 5>trying to shrink the bloat of government. All the doge

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<v Speaker 5>cutting and all that will fall into that as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Some of them he's testing the limit of the law

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<v Speaker 5>by design, for example, ending birthright citizenship, which I think

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<v Speaker 5>no country, maybe one other country has this, ending birth

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<v Speaker 5>right citizenship for illegally. For example, you come in illegally,

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<v Speaker 5>you have a baby, you don't automatically eat you a

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<v Speaker 5>citizenship that will be tested in the courts, and he

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<v Speaker 5>knows that. So summer in that category, but a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of the other ones, to your point is just it

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<v Speaker 5>falls in his purview. He's not wasting any time and

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<v Speaker 5>anything where he doesn't have to rely on Congress, doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>have to rely on the judiciary.

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<v Speaker 4>He's just going full speed.

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<v Speaker 2>He's absolutely going full speed. And what do you think

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<v Speaker 2>that this says about the sort of president that he

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<v Speaker 2>will be, That he's not mucking around and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of them he made promises before the election he won

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<v Speaker 2>on that mandate, he's getting straight down to business. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you think the next four years will be like?

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<v Speaker 5>If today's any indication, and let's hope he doesn't lose steam,

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<v Speaker 5>we really are going to see huge change and huge disruption.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, this was such a high contrast election in

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<v Speaker 5>every which way, interests of policy, in terms of substance,

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<v Speaker 5>in terms of style, in terms of energy, in terms

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<v Speaker 5>of stamina, all of it. And today is finally the

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<v Speaker 5>fruits of that labor of what was a very hard

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<v Speaker 5>fought campaign is coming to light. And if this is

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<v Speaker 5>an indication of what's to come, it's not going to

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<v Speaker 5>be anything like the first time, because he's much more

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<v Speaker 5>organized and it's also much more prepared. A lot of

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<v Speaker 5>the attacks from the other side have fizzled out so

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<v Speaker 5>that it's hard for them to rerun those attacks. And

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<v Speaker 5>you'd have to think that somebody who's been impeached and dted, convicted,

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<v Speaker 5>almost assassinated is a changed human being, has nothing to lose,

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<v Speaker 5>and he's just going to leave everything out on the

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<v Speaker 5>field for the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's going to be a very interesting four years

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of today, is anything to go by, boy, We're.

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<v Speaker 4>In for a fascinating ride.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, we mentioned some of the international executive orders, and

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<v Speaker 2>I found this one to be particularly interesting because Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump has announced he is pulling out of the Paris

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<v Speaker 2>Climate Accord.

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<v Speaker 6>This is what he said, I'm immediately withdrawing from the unfair,

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<v Speaker 6>one sided Paris Climate Accord ripoff. The United States will

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<v Speaker 6>not sabotise our own industries.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, China pollutes with impunity, Kosher.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get to the consequences for Australia in

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<v Speaker 2>a moment. But firstly, you know, Donald Trump's been professing

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<v Speaker 2>the new green scam, as he's been calling renewable energy

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<v Speaker 2>for the last few years, so this doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Come as a surprise.

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<v Speaker 2>But what does it mean now for climate targets that

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<v Speaker 2>were put in place by the Biden administration.

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<v Speaker 5>It dismantles them. And this whole Paris Climate Accord has

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<v Speaker 5>been a yo yo where Obama signed them in as

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<v Speaker 5>soon as Trump won. The first time he withdrew there

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<v Speaker 5>was sort of an expiration period where he could do

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<v Speaker 5>it overnight, had to let it run its course. Finally

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<v Speaker 5>Withdrew lost the election, Biden comes and reinstates it, and

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<v Speaker 5>now back to removing it. So each time that yoyo

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<v Speaker 5>sort of has been going back and forth. But I

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<v Speaker 5>think you know, as he said there, that it runs

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<v Speaker 5>antibetical to his agenda, which is US energy dominance, growing

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<v Speaker 5>industry at home, and these types of agreements. Even if

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<v Speaker 5>you support wanting to keep the planet clean, which I

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<v Speaker 5>think most people do, these agreements don't get there. It's

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<v Speaker 5>just a massive transfer of power and transfer of wealth

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<v Speaker 5>from some nations to others, some sectorst others, and it

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<v Speaker 5>means in time, when this stuff is unwound, it will

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<v Speaker 5>not cease to exist.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, hopefully this is a big wake up call for

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<v Speaker 2>here in Australia with our renewable energy fantasy that we're

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<v Speaker 2>going down under. But what does pulling out the Paris

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<v Speaker 2>Climate Accord now mean for Australia because it had been

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<v Speaker 2>foreshadowed for some time. Does it impact us at all?

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<v Speaker 5>Hopefully it gives a little bit of a permission structure

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<v Speaker 5>to push harder because there's been a minio yo here too.

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<v Speaker 5>We're promised to abd I think signed on to it,

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<v Speaker 5>and then he actually wanted to withdraw from it as

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<v Speaker 5>the details came out, and then couldn't politically and all.

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<v Speaker 4>The rest of it.

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<v Speaker 5>So maybe this will We've got our own election coming

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<v Speaker 5>up over here. This might give paid the way for

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<v Speaker 5>that type of discussion. Also, just specifically that transfer of

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<v Speaker 5>wealth and power that we mentioned, The United States taxpayer

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<v Speaker 5>funds a lot of projects that other countries are beneficiaries

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<v Speaker 5>of through this accord, and if we pull out, if

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<v Speaker 5>the US pulls out, then that funding dries up, and

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<v Speaker 5>that may have some ripple effect to other countries, including Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm just quite it fascinating that he's putting America first,

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<v Speaker 2>which is exactly what he promised to do, and I

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<v Speaker 2>hope that that sets a standard for places like Australia first,

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<v Speaker 2>put your own country first and stop relying overseas. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>let's move on, because one of the other things that

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<v Speaker 2>was quite notable was the big tech titans who were

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<v Speaker 2>on full display at the inauguration. You had Mark Zuckerberg,

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Bezos, Sunda Pitchai, and Tim Cook. They all hung

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<v Speaker 2>out together and apparently it was by choice. They looked

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<v Speaker 2>very chummy in a number of the photos. But I

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<v Speaker 2>read that the combined net wealth of the billionaires who

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<v Speaker 2>attended the event was one point two trillion US dollars kosher,

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<v Speaker 2>which is absolutely phenomenal. Now, some of these tech giants

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<v Speaker 2>we know in the past, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, they

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<v Speaker 2>have criticized Donald Trump, but now it seems the tighters turn.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all suddenly kissing the ring. Why do you think

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<v Speaker 2>it's important in particular, not just for billionaires, but for

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<v Speaker 2>the technology world to be in with Donald Trump as

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to out.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a big story from the selection. The tight

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<v Speaker 5>has turned because Trump turned it. They're sort of keen

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<v Speaker 5>kicking and screaming because decidedly over the past I would

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<v Speaker 5>say three or four decades have been while before Trump,

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<v Speaker 5>Silicon Valley has been very favorable to the last in

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<v Speaker 5>cash and kind. If you look at their donations, if

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<v Speaker 5>you look at the issues set that they lobby for.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not always in line with the America First, or

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<v Speaker 5>sort of the populist mantra, and in kind, all the

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<v Speaker 5>suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story or of COVID

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<v Speaker 5>origin theories and all of that helped one side much

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<v Speaker 5>much more than the other. So it's really interesting from

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<v Speaker 5>that to this where they're kissing the ring and donating

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<v Speaker 5>to his inauguration fund and looking all chummy. I think

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<v Speaker 5>some of it might be self preservation or expediency on

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<v Speaker 5>their part, which is fine. You don't have to like

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<v Speaker 5>each other, but if you've got common cause for the

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<v Speaker 5>goal of America First, wonderful. And some of it might

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<v Speaker 5>be that they just know that this is where the

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<v Speaker 5>power is now and it's in their interest to get

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<v Speaker 5>on board because if not, they'll be left behind.

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<v Speaker 2>But also, what does it say about Donald Trump as

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<v Speaker 2>a businessman, because you know, it would be easy just

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<v Speaker 2>to snub these people who have been quite rude to

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<v Speaker 2>him in public forums for many years. But he knows

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<v Speaker 2>how to foster relationships.

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<v Speaker 5>He really does, which is so funny given to us

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<v Speaker 5>the caricature that most of the world's media put on

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<v Speaker 5>him and painted him as he's actually very good at

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<v Speaker 5>he will CounterPunch. We all know that he's coarse in

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<v Speaker 5>his style, but he is actually very good at letting

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<v Speaker 5>bygones be bygones when it's time.

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<v Speaker 4>To forge a new alliance.

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<v Speaker 5>You could see that with all sorts of people, from

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<v Speaker 5>Megan Kelly as an example, a journalist, to these tact folks.

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<v Speaker 4>Over here and everyone in between.

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<v Speaker 5>If there's common ground to be found for his vision

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<v Speaker 5>of America, first he will.

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<v Speaker 4>Do a deal. He will do it, which is a

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<v Speaker 4>good president.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good later, in my opinion, a very good later.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump also vowed to be the first commander in

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<v Speaker 2>chief to put US astronauts on Mars.

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<v Speaker 6>This is what he said, And we will pursue our

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<v Speaker 6>manifest destiny into the Stars, launching American astronauts to plant

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<v Speaker 6>the stars and stripes on the planet Mars.

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<v Speaker 2>But I got to say, I really liked this. This

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<v Speaker 2>response from a lot. Musk says it all. Oh, he's

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<v Speaker 2>very happy, Alon Musks is stoked. But you know, look,

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<v Speaker 2>the space race is interesting at the moment, Kosher, because

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<v Speaker 2>you've got countries worldwide, China, Russia, everybody is competing in

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<v Speaker 2>that sphere. Now, what role does the US.

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<v Speaker 5>Play such a central question. So it's been fifty six

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<v Speaker 5>years since America decidedly took the mantle there and sent

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<v Speaker 5>the first man on the moon. Nobody else has done

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<v Speaker 5>it since then, and you could argue that that era

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<v Speaker 5>was the peak of US exceptionalism and ingenuity, and it

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<v Speaker 5>all sort of manifests in that moment of Neil Armstrong

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<v Speaker 5>going on there and having a phone call with Richard Nixon,

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<v Speaker 5>and since then, the last half century it's been a

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<v Speaker 5>managed declient in so many aspects you a society economically, culturally,

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<v Speaker 5>and everything else. So Trump clearly has a vision all

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<v Speaker 5>these things he's talking about in terms of economics, culture, regulations,

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<v Speaker 5>foreign policy, all of that America first make it strong,

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<v Speaker 5>and then the manifestation of that, the pinnacle of it

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<v Speaker 5>is going back and winning the space race and out

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<v Speaker 5>competing other countries that have come a long way like

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<v Speaker 5>China since then. That's submission that something that Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 5>has said is a big motivation, clearly. So that's that

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<v Speaker 5>common cause that we talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think it's terrific, it's going to be interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus it's such a it's a huge industry, the space industry.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll look forward to see what happens there.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Vivek Bramaswami has pulled the pin as co leader of

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<v Speaker 2>the Department of Government Efficiency, apparently due to his interest

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<v Speaker 2>in running for governor of Ohio. Kosher I was quite

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<v Speaker 2>surprised by this.

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<v Speaker 4>It didn't take very long.

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<v Speaker 2>It was picked by Donald Trump, but now he's left.

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<v Speaker 5>It always probably was a conceptual thing having two leaders

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<v Speaker 5>co CEOs, two billionaires with Elon Musk with Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 5>and correct and the veak. Nice idea, but I always

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<v Speaker 5>thought maybe, I'm not sure, too many cooks in the kitchen,

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<v Speaker 5>one could argue, But I think the more important reason

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<v Speaker 5>is the governorship. So he's from Ohio. The governor there,

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<v Speaker 5>Mark Devine, is term limited in twenty twenty six. That's

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<v Speaker 5>going to be an open sea. The Vak kind of

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<v Speaker 5>came out of nowhere and just in fifteen minutes, really

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<v Speaker 5>went from a nobody to a household name now in America,

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<v Speaker 5>So strike while the iron's hot, and if he does win,

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<v Speaker 5>then that's a good thing because he is generally speaking

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<v Speaker 5>America first, and an alley of Trump and we need

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<v Speaker 5>more governors Trump and needs more governors that support his agenda.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, absolutely, absolutely didn't last very long at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we have to talk about Baronet Trump, the son

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<v Speaker 2>of course of Millennia and Donald Trump, who has once

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<v Speaker 2>again stolen the show at the inauguration. The internet is

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<v Speaker 2>a buzz talking about how tall and stature this man

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<v Speaker 2>is and say that he is a president in waiting.

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<v Speaker 2>I tend to agree, Kosher. We know that he played

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<v Speaker 2>quite a pivotal part in his father's election campaign. He

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<v Speaker 2>was the one who encouraged him to go on podcasts

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<v Speaker 2>like Joe Rogan, which really helped him get over the line.

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<v Speaker 4>But you just look at him. He's so staunch, he's

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<v Speaker 4>a strong man.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think he's going to be a future leader.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think.

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<v Speaker 5>He's got a lot of the ry ingredients. So people

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<v Speaker 5>love the Trump kids and the Trump family. They're also

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<v Speaker 5>well together, they're very attractive, they're smart, they're accomplished.

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<v Speaker 4>All of that.

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<v Speaker 5>And he was just a little ten year old boy

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<v Speaker 5>the last time around, and they've sort of been keeping

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<v Speaker 5>him out of the limelight, very private people in Milannia famously,

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<v Speaker 5>and now he's back thrust onto the scene. So tall

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<v Speaker 5>and that he's six foot seven. Yeah, he's completely grown

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<v Speaker 5>up in front of our eyes. And as you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 5>he pleaded a pivotal rule in his media strategy. He

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<v Speaker 5>seems to love the crowd and the energy, but like

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<v Speaker 5>his mother, he doesn't see much. He's a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>of an enigma, and I think that will strive him

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<v Speaker 5>well where he's creating a lot of interest and he

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<v Speaker 5>may burst out onto the scene at some point in

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<v Speaker 5>the future.

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<v Speaker 2>I completely agree all eyes on Baron. I just think

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<v Speaker 2>he's an absolute start. Now, speaking of his mother, we've

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<v Speaker 2>got to talk about the fashion because Milania looked very

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<v Speaker 2>sharp today, but her hat got in the way of

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<v Speaker 2>an important photo opportunity. Have a look. Well, you can't help,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. Trump gave it a go. But meanwhile, Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 2>Bezos's fiance's outfit was a little laingerie number. It's raised

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<v Speaker 2>some eyebrows, and I've got to say it looked like

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<v Speaker 2>it raised Mark Zuckerberg's eyebrows too.

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<v Speaker 4>We've got some vision there.

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<v Speaker 2>He couldn't keep his eyes off her as well. But look,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, look, firstly, Milania, I thought looked lovely.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure about this outfit. What do you think? Agree?

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<v Speaker 5>I call him Milania's outfit high fashion war path, because

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<v Speaker 5>there's a message to send here. It's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>this is my space. It's like an armor. Don't mess

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<v Speaker 5>with me. And the fashion industry very openly snubbed her

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<v Speaker 5>the first time around, you objectively as was gorgeous first lady,

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<v Speaker 5>and they said they wouldn't dress her and never put

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<v Speaker 5>her on the cover of magazines, as she'd already been

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<v Speaker 5>on them previously, et cetera exactly. And Jeff Bezis' fiance,

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<v Speaker 5>I think she should have.

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<v Speaker 4>Chosen something questionable. It's questionable kosher, it certainly is.

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<v Speaker 7>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been wonderful to speak with you. Thanks for joining

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<v Speaker 2>me to unpack what's been a historic day in the US.

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<v Speaker 4>Appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 2>Coachher Gata, thank you joining me now. Is Newsweek Senior

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<v Speaker 2>editor at Large and Article three Project Senior Counsel, Josh Hammer, Josh,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you so much for joining me. Look, I've got

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<v Speaker 2>to say it's finally happened.

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<v Speaker 4>The world is healing. Order is restored already.

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump will issue an order ending federal diversity, equity

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<v Speaker 2>and inclusion programs. Hallelujah, finally now this order will instruct

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<v Speaker 2>senior officials in the White House Office of Management and

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<v Speaker 2>Budget and the Office of Personnel Management to determine what

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<v Speaker 2>programs need to be gutted. Josh, it's finally going to

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<v Speaker 2>be merit all the way, not based on race, not

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<v Speaker 2>based on gender, but on merit. Has the post woke

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<v Speaker 2>world begun? Do you think.

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<v Speaker 1>It's definitely beginning? You know, this actually goes back to

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<v Speaker 1>the final year of the first Trump administration. So in

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<v Speaker 1>the very final months the first trumpministration, my friend Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Ruffer was working really hard to get DEI banned in

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<v Speaker 1>the federal government. And now here we are right out

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<v Speaker 1>of the gate, and we're doing it literally on D one.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not just DEI that's being banned in the

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<v Speaker 1>federal government. It's also gender ideology. It's also the transgender

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<v Speaker 1>Agenda that was a separate executive order that that was

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<v Speaker 1>implemented earlier. Today as well, the federal government of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States now stands by the policy that there are

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<v Speaker 1>two and precisely two genders. There is male and there

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<v Speaker 1>is female, and that is it. So we are really

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<v Speaker 1>seeing the prudential use of government power to fight back

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<v Speaker 1>against the woll agenda. There and It's a beautiful sight

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<v Speaker 1>to behold there. I mean, it's hard to keep up, frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>with all the executive orders that are coming through there,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's immigration, whether it's energy, whether it's Trump withdrawing

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<v Speaker 1>from the WHO, the World Health Organization there, putting American

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<v Speaker 1>forces on the southern and potentially in the northern Warwick, Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>But the point is that this is morning in America. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>as Ronald Reagan would have said, there, it is a

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<v Speaker 1>joyous day. I was grinning ear to ear watching this inauguration,

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<v Speaker 1>watching him sign these executive orders. The thing about Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump also, I have to say there, he's just such

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<v Speaker 1>a funny, entertaining person there. I've been watching him on

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<v Speaker 1>television here basically all day, grinning ear to ear. I

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<v Speaker 1>miss this free daily Trump entertainment as well. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh look and more to calm. I completely agree. And

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to pick you up on what you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned there that Donald Trump has declared that the US

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<v Speaker 2>will only recognize two genders, male and female.

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<v Speaker 4>This is what he said.

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<v Speaker 8>As of today.

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<v Speaker 6>It will henceforth be the official policy of the United

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<v Speaker 6>States government that there are only two genders, male and female.

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<v Speaker 2>Josh, This would have been virtually unthinkable years ago. People said, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't say that because it's offensive.

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<v Speaker 4>You're a bigot. You can't do that. Can't say that.

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<v Speaker 2>What does it say about where we are now in

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<v Speaker 2>the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump understands something very important that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>other Republican politicians here in the US do not understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me explain what that is. So there's been a

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<v Speaker 1>debate on the American right for a very long time

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<v Speaker 1>as to the relationship between culture and politics. So, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>the late great Andrew Breitbart, the founder of the website Brightbar,

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<v Speaker 1>famously said that that culture is upstream of politics, basically

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<v Speaker 1>that if you want to control politics, it's downstream of culture.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to control the culture first. I have always

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<v Speaker 1>thought that that's a little too qte by half, because

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<v Speaker 1>culture and politics operating in a two way street, where

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<v Speaker 1>the culture can fit the politic politics can also affect

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<v Speaker 1>the culture. I think Donald Trump understands that, he intuits

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<v Speaker 1>that he understands that, he understands that when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to civilizational issues, questions of the human person, of human anthropology,

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<v Speaker 1>such as male and female, God created them, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to choose you actually cannot take the so called neutral

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<v Speaker 1>way out. You actually have to make a decision and

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<v Speaker 1>put a thumb on the scale. Here. This is an

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<v Speaker 1>example of making that decision, of having the courage to

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<v Speaker 1>actually do that and to lead by political example, and

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<v Speaker 1>the culture ultimately God willing to hear America will follow

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<v Speaker 1>as well. There. So you know, he's a little older.

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<v Speaker 1>He's won the older American president, not as old as

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<v Speaker 1>the previous guy. But he nonetheless, I think in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of his understanding between culture and politics is actually very

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<v Speaker 1>new and edgy in a way that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican old guards still resists to this day. That's

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<v Speaker 1>their loss in his gain them absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a really interesting observation you spot on. Now, look,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about transparency. Trump is vowed to release long

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<v Speaker 2>classified government records on the assassination of John F. Kennedy,

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<v Speaker 2>Martin Luther King Junior, and Robert F. Kennedy. This is

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<v Speaker 2>what he said, we are.

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<v Speaker 7>Going to make public remaining records relating to the assassinations

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<v Speaker 7>of President John F. Kennedy, his brother.

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<v Speaker 6>Robert Kennedy, as well as doctor Martin.

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<v Speaker 4>Luther King Junior. Josh.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's vowing to restore government transparency. Why is this

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<v Speaker 2>so important in this administration.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's important because Americans trust in government right now

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<v Speaker 1>is at an all time historic low. I mean, Americans

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<v Speaker 1>have not distrusted the government this much, probably in the

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<v Speaker 1>entire history of modern American public polling. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't even tell you when the last one I think

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<v Speaker 1>will be even close to this, maybe the Jimmy Carter

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<v Speaker 1>years of stagflation in the Iran hostage crisis. Probably even

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<v Speaker 1>including that though. So, if you want to try to

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<v Speaker 1>get the American people back on your side, well, the

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<v Speaker 1>easiest way to do that is with good policy. You

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<v Speaker 1>need to get the economy humming again, to seal the

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<v Speaker 1>southern border with Mexico there, to get peace on the

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<v Speaker 1>global stage in the Middle East, Russia, Ukraine so forth.

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<v Speaker 6>There.

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<v Speaker 1>Another fairly easy way is to show that you stand

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<v Speaker 1>with the peoples. So when the American people have long

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<v Speaker 1>standing questions that they're not getting clear answers from from

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<v Speaker 1>the government, give them the answers again unless there is

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<v Speaker 1>a truly, truly, truly compelling national security reason there. But frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to something like the JFK assassination. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been sixty years. I mean, whatever national security implications there

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<v Speaker 1>might have been at the height of the Cuban missile

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<v Speaker 1>crisis with the Soviet Union, you know, that's literally decades

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<v Speaker 1>in the past at this point there, So why not,

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<v Speaker 1>I say, why not? Heck, I say, at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know whether there are aliens at Area

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<v Speaker 1>fifty one out in Nevada outside of Las Vegas. I

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<v Speaker 1>suspect probably not. But while we're going down this rabbit hole,

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<v Speaker 1>why not keep it coming. There's a lot of questions

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<v Speaker 1>out there. I suspent Donald Trump's going to give us

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun answers.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, look, what do we want to know the answers

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<v Speaker 2>to that, I completely agree. You're going down the rabbit hole.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think just just keep going, keep going, strike

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<v Speaker 2>while the eye and is hot. Now, I thought this

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<v Speaker 2>was particularly interesting, though unsurprising. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 2>were booed entering the capital for the inauguration.

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<v Speaker 4>Have a look at this president in the.

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<v Speaker 1>United States, Joseph.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the United States, Well, Josh, look, they're all MAGA

0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:13.920
<v Speaker 2>supporters there. They were never going to give them a

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<v Speaker 2>rousing reception. But it brings into question because Biden leaves

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<v Speaker 2>office with historically low approval ratings, Kamala is still dancing

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<v Speaker 2>about like a moron with interchanging accents.

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<v Speaker 4>It seems like America.

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<v Speaker 2>Really has had enough of those two.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think it's difficult to put into words

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<v Speaker 1>just the utter shambles that the Democratic Party is currently

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<v Speaker 1>in here. First of all, they all hate each other,

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, Bill and

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary Clinton, the titans of the current Democratic Party throwing

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Schumer. I guess as well there they actually genuinely

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<v Speaker 1>cannot stand each other. A lot of this gets back

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<v Speaker 1>to the major divide this past summer as to whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not to kick Joe Biden off the ticket and

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<v Speaker 1>put in Kamala Harris. A lot of these simmering divides

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<v Speaker 1>to this day have not fully heals from that, but

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<v Speaker 1>more to the points their agenda, especially the post two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and eight, post Barack Obama, post woke, intersectional identity

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<v Speaker 1>politics coalition of the aggrieved interest coalition. It's all been

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<v Speaker 1>emphatically rejected one because it's totally divisive. There, Barack Obama

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<v Speaker 1>and Joe Biden claimed to be uniers. All they did

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<v Speaker 1>actually was pit one Americans against the other, whether it

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<v Speaker 1>was white versus black, whether it was the vaccinated against

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<v Speaker 1>the unvaccinated, Team red versus Team Blue, you name it.

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<v Speaker 1>There they have been massive, massive dividers. And more's the point.

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<v Speaker 1>Their policy has just been utterly catastrophic. Whether it is inflation,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it is the economy, whether it is crime in

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<v Speaker 1>America's urban corridors, people getting pushed, god forbid on the

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<v Speaker 1>subway cars in New York City, stories like the Daniel

0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Penny story there the women lit on fire. Foreign policy,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the Middle East, Russia, Ukraine, China looking like

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<v Speaker 1>the gun invade Taiwan every day is basically a hot

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<v Speaker 1>spot all across the world. There they have failed, and

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<v Speaker 1>they have failed catastrophically. And the best part is, as

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<v Speaker 1>someone's personally who wishes the Democrats nothing but horm the

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<v Speaker 1>best part is I have no idea where they go

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<v Speaker 1>from here. I genuinely am glad that that is not

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<v Speaker 1>my problem because I actually do not know what the

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<v Speaker 1>answer is. But I suspect that they're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the political wilderness for some time now because there's

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<v Speaker 1>no clear and easy answer as to how they possibly

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<v Speaker 1>get themselves back to a place of respectability without somehow

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<v Speaker 1>sacrificing their far left beast as well. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how you walk that tape rope. I'm not sure that

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<v Speaker 1>they know how to do it either.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean that they did it to themselves, didn't they.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is all that their own doing. They're in

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<v Speaker 2>this mess because that they were too slow to change

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<v Speaker 2>the candidates. So look, we'll see what happens over the

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<v Speaker 2>next few years.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>In his last Actors, President, Joe Biden issued sweeping preemptive

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<v Speaker 2>pardons for his entire family, as well as former COVID

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<v Speaker 2>advisor doctor Anthony Fauci, retired General Mark Milly, and members

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<v Speaker 2>of the January sixth Committee to quote shield them from

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<v Speaker 2>politically motivated prosecutions under the Trump administration. Josh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this was unsurprising. He was always going do it.

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<v Speaker 2>But what do you make of this at the eleventh

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<v Speaker 2>hour to go and issue these pardons.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just truly shameful stuff. You know, Joe Biden told

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<v Speaker 1>us time and time again that the reason that you

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<v Speaker 1>had to vote for Joe Biden, and then after the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats pulled their bloodless coup that you had to vote

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<v Speaker 1>for Kamala Harris. He said, time and time again, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta vote for Team Blue. You gotta vote for the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats because the other guy, Donald Trump, he's a Hitler

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<v Speaker 1>fascist nazi there, who's going to blow up the constitution.

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 1>He hates norms. How many times over the past four

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<v Speaker 1>years and we've been lectured time and time again about

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<v Speaker 1>about how the January sixth guy is a great perpetrator

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to desecrating American norms there, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you fast forward to the past few months here, especially

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<v Speaker 1>since the election in November. How many norms is Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden going to blow up in flames on his way

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<v Speaker 1>out the door here? I mean, it's basically like he's

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<v Speaker 1>taken the match. He's taken entire, entire reservoir of gasoline

0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:57.359
<v Speaker 1>and just poured an entire box of matches on fire

0:25:57.840 --> 0:26:00.920
<v Speaker 1>into this gasoline on the way out there. On Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>he tweeted that he was recognizing a new constitutional amendment.

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<v Speaker 1>The National Archives here was like, dude, you can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not how the constitutional process works. These pardons at

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<v Speaker 1>the last hour parentally partnering the Biden family, his brother

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Biden, five or six family members there fifteen minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes before Donald Trump was to put his hand

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<v Speaker 1>on the Bible and take of office. I can't believe this.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like, it makes America look so patently silly,

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<v Speaker 1>so patently tribal, and frankly, so patently third world. I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot wait for this guy to get out of office,

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<v Speaker 1>to get the heck off my television screen. Frankly, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's going to be a very long time until

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<v Speaker 1>we hear from him again. It actually went shock me. Frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>if we don't hear from him again until his funeral.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I think we've all been thinking the sign let's

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<v Speaker 2>be realistic, and I agree it was completely dodging, totally

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<v Speaker 2>dodgy of him fifteen minutes before that inauguration.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, look, let's move on.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the family of Dorin Steinbercher, one of the three

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<v Speaker 2>Israeley hostages frayed from Humus this week, has thanked Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump for her release, saying, we also extend our gratitude

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 2>to Trump for his significant involvement and support, which means

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<v Speaker 2>so much to us. Here was Donald Trump talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the situation in the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 6>My proudest legacy will be that of a peacemaker and unifier.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what I want to be, a peacemaker and a unifier.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm pleased to say that as of yesterday, one day

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<v Speaker 6>before I assumed the office, the hostages in the Middle

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<v Speaker 6>East are coming back home to their families.

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<v Speaker 2>Josh, how much of this deal and what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>right now in the Middle East can be put down

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<v Speaker 2>to Donald Trump's influence and his very strong words leading

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<v Speaker 2>up to the inauguration.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that the recent ceasefire hostage deal is

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelmingly due to Donald Trump and his Middle East Special

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<v Speaker 1>ENVOYE Seek Steve Whitcoff. I mean, you look at the

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 1>fact that Joe Biden, Tony blankn and Bret McGirk and

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<v Speaker 1>that whole national security team, if you can even call

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<v Speaker 1>it that, they tried for a very long time, literally

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<v Speaker 1>over a year, to get a second deal since the

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<v Speaker 1>initial one in November twenty twenty three, they couldn't do it.

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Trump and Whitcoff got involved. In a matter of days

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:11.639
<v Speaker 1>it was done. So I think they're overwhelmingly responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>this particular deal. I guess though, if I'm being honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I would sound the note of caution. I'm not frankly

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 1>in love with this deal. To be very honest with you,

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>it's amazing that these hostages are released. Obviously, if I

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:23.399
<v Speaker 1>were one of the family members, I would want to

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<v Speaker 1>do everything possible that goes without saying there. I worry

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<v Speaker 1>though about the incentives that this sense. When you are

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<v Speaker 1>trading hundreds, hundreds, thousands, frankly of the most hardened jihad

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Is terrorists out there for just a few dozen hostages there,

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<v Speaker 1>what incentives does that send about trying to reward terrorism,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to incentivize further hostage shaking there. Ultimately, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a push come to shove situation. Is prime mister

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<v Speaker 1>net Niya, who's going to have the political capital and

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<v Speaker 1>the political will to send the IDF back into Godz

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<v Speaker 1>That finished the job there? Because I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>very clear about this, Unless and until Hamas is decapitated

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<v Speaker 1>and fully destroyed as a military and political organization, got

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<v Speaker 1>unlessen until that happens, Israel will have lost this war.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a very very very important thing to remember. I

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 1>believe Donald Trump understands that there. But we'll find out

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<v Speaker 1>sooner rather than later.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we certainly will. We'll see how this one plays out.

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<v Speaker 2>Josh hammup, good to catch up. Thanks very much for

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<v Speaker 2>joining me on the show this evening.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Still to come an extended edition of Lefties Losing It.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, it's time for Lefties.

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<v Speaker 2>Losing It coming up per Joe Biden Extravaganza.

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<v Speaker 4>You won't want to miss this one. We've conned deep into.

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<v Speaker 2>The archives to dig up the best of old gaffy

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<v Speaker 2>Joe as he finally finishes up as president. But first

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<v Speaker 2>q the inauguration lefty meltdowns because Donald Trump is back baby. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>some of those were even from the first inauguration, but

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<v Speaker 2>this time round, it's music to my ears. The screams

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 2>really warm my heart because we love to say it,

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<v Speaker 2>don't we. It's over for the woke lefties who are

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<v Speaker 2>just so desperately trying to stay relevant in this new

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<v Speaker 2>era of optimism.

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<v Speaker 4>You're the Karens. Please.

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<v Speaker 2>I would rather wear underwear full of angry bees than

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<v Speaker 2>watch the inauguration on Monday. Okay then, and of course,

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<v Speaker 2>when all else fails, make a public service announcement.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know about you, but I will not be

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<v Speaker 9>watching the inauguration, not during the inauguration, not after the inauguration,

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<v Speaker 9>not any part of it on the news. Who's with me?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, please please stop everything.

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<v Speaker 4>If Karen wasn't watching, is it going to watch?

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<v Speaker 2>Trump should have definitely canceled that inauguration. That's a huge

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<v Speaker 2>blow for number forty seven. He will be absolutely devastated.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what will these lefties do for the next

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<v Speaker 2>four years? A lying, felon and adjudicated rapist is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be taking an oath on the Bible, and you

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 2>wonder why the world is laughing at us? And look,

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<v Speaker 2>please spare a thought for Alexandria Ocazio Cortez, who is

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<v Speaker 2>just not okay all.

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<v Speaker 9>These journalists really. Congresswomen, are you going to the inauguration? Congresswoman,

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<v Speaker 9>are you going to the inauguration? Are you going to

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<v Speaker 9>the inauguration? Let me make myself clear. I don't celebrate rapists,

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<v Speaker 9>So no, I'm not going to the inauguration.

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<v Speaker 2>Round Oh so so sad again, what will Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>do without you?

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<v Speaker 4>Now to Don Lemon, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Sacked Sea host who is continuing on a slippery slope

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<v Speaker 2>into the never never, I mean, the poor guy is

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 2>absolutely grasping at every straw possible.

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<v Speaker 10>Here's the breaking news for you. Remember people were upset

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<v Speaker 10>that Joe Biden pardon his son Hunter Biden. Will Joe Biden?

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<v Speaker 10>President Biden pardons his family on last day in office.

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<v Speaker 10>Why is he doing that? Is it unprecedented? Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 10>is unusual, But it's also because of the unprecedented unusual

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 10>administration that we have coming in and he cannot trust

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 10>his family in the hands of Donald Trump's Justice Department.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, yes, don Now is this the same preemptive pardons

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<v Speaker 2>that the Democrats warned Trump against for years?

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<v Speaker 11>Have you ever heard of somebody getting a preemptive pardon

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<v Speaker 11>who was innocent of all crime, who's just an innocent person?

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<v Speaker 4>Have you ever heard of that?

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<v Speaker 12>Just somebody getting a blanket pardon and they're an innocent person.

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<v Speaker 12>But no, it's the president's own family.

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<v Speaker 8>It's people have been covering up for the president in

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<v Speaker 8>addition to his own family.

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<v Speaker 11>If he pardons people preemptively, he's essentially telling the public

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 11>that these people have committed crimes and we may not

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 11>be aware of what they are, but the pardon is

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<v Speaker 11>clear evidence that crimes have been committed.

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<v Speaker 12>The idea of a kind of prospective pardon, this sort

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<v Speaker 12>of permanent federal get out of jail free card. That

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<v Speaker 12>seems to be what we're talking about in the case

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<v Speaker 12>of this right with Juliani and his three eldest children,

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<v Speaker 12>who as far we know don't have not been convicted

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<v Speaker 12>of a crime. Maybe they've committed a lot and they

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<v Speaker 12>don't want to face action. I don't know, it's weird.

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<v Speaker 12>I wouldn't ask for a pardon. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 12>deserve one because I don't think I've done anything criminal.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, where does that come from?

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<v Speaker 12>That concept you can just kind of wave your magic

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<v Speaker 12>pardon one?

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, I never learned, and has anyone saying, don lemon,

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<v Speaker 2>Donny your faults.

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<v Speaker 4>On that place?

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<v Speaker 10>Anyone Ask anyone who knows me, They'll tell you. I

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<v Speaker 10>don't believe in belittling people.

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<v Speaker 4>Link anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's exactly what I thought, Donnie. Now to the

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 2>moment you've all been waiting for, the Joe Biden Gaffriel, and.

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<v Speaker 4>What a spectacle we have for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is the now former leader of the free world,

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<v Speaker 2>who we were told was healthy, thriving, sharp as attack

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<v Speaker 2>and rigorous, when really he was a potato.

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<v Speaker 4>This whole time being.

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<v Speaker 2>Propped up by stage Mum Jill Biden, please cue the tape.

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<v Speaker 3>The total initiative relative to what we're going to do

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<v Speaker 3>with more border patrol and more CYBUN officers.

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<v Speaker 6>President Trump, I really don't know what he said at

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<v Speaker 6>the end of this center. I don't think he knows

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<v Speaker 6>what he said either.

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<v Speaker 3>America is a nation that can be defined in a

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<v Speaker 3>single word. I doesn't foot him the foot. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>have picked Vice President Trump to be vice president? Do

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<v Speaker 3>I think she was not qualified to be president? And

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<v Speaker 3>now I want to hand it over to the President

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<v Speaker 3>of Ukraine, who has as much courage as he has determination.

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<v Speaker 3>Ladies and gentlemen, President putin, imagine what we.

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<v Speaker 4>Could do next.

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<v Speaker 1>Or more years or.

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<v Speaker 2>Me?

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<v Speaker 4>No one's seen them, no pall sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Then look, it brings a tear to my eyes, doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>it It really it's it's a somber moment.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a it's a real sad moment. I mean, what

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<v Speaker 4>are we going to do without him?

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<v Speaker 1>Bye?

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<v Speaker 2>Bye, Joe still to come? Professor Max Abrams joins me

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<v Speaker 2>to explain what Trump's second presidency means for international security.

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<v Speaker 2>Joining me now is international security expert Professor Max Abrams, Max,

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<v Speaker 2>nice to see you. Thank you very much for joining me.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start with this story that's on the front page

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<v Speaker 2>over in the US. Donald Trump, on day one, plans

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<v Speaker 2>to suspend security clearances of fifty one intelligence officials who

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<v Speaker 2>dismissed Hunter Biden's laptop as Russian disinformation in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this involves a so called spies who lies. You

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<v Speaker 2>can see there, Max, What message does Trump's repeal send.

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<v Speaker 8>I think the message is very clear, and that is,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, the establishment is done. The twenty twenty election

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<v Speaker 8>arguably was helped substantially by these fifty one shady Intel

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<v Speaker 8>official because at that time their Hunter's laptop showed that

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<v Speaker 8>the Bidens were extremely corrupt and at the behest of

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<v Speaker 8>the Biden campaign. Right the Biden campaign actually asked for this.

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<v Speaker 8>These fifty one Intel agents attested that, you know, essentially

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<v Speaker 8>we could dismiss the laptop, that it probably wasn't Hunters,

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<v Speaker 8>that it had the earmarks of Russian disinformation. And shortly

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<v Speaker 8>after I'm talking within a couple of weeks, there was

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<v Speaker 8>a major presidential debate between Trump and Biden, and when

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<v Speaker 8>the topic of the laptop came up, Biden was able

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<v Speaker 8>to dismiss it by pointing to this letter by the

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<v Speaker 8>fifty one agents saying that you know the laptop was Russian.

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<v Speaker 8>And so I think that Trump may blame these fifty

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<v Speaker 8>one Intel agents. It's for Biden's victory at the least.

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<v Speaker 8>What it shows is that the Intel agents are corrupt,

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<v Speaker 8>that they're partisan, and they're perfectly willing to engage in

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<v Speaker 8>election interference. So I'm happy for Trump to revoke their

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<v Speaker 8>security clearances. They shouldn't be able to tack his presidency

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<v Speaker 8>like we saw previously. These are clearly partisan hacks who

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<v Speaker 8>certainly place no value on the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>No which is a threat to America. I mean, these

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<v Speaker 2>people are supposed to be in such high positions. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's such a smart move by Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>straight off the back.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The President will also launch a new anti drug advertising

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<v Speaker 2>campaign to show the physical impact of taking drugs like fentanyl.

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<v Speaker 4>Have a look at this.

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<v Speaker 6>We're going to advertise how bad drugs are for you, how.

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<v Speaker 5>Bad they are.

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<v Speaker 7>They ruin your look, they're ruin your faith, They're ruined

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<v Speaker 7>your skin, and ruin your teeth. If you want to

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<v Speaker 7>have horrible teeth, take a lot of fent at all,

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<v Speaker 7>do you want to have skin that looks so terrible?

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<v Speaker 5>Take fent at all. We're going to do.

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<v Speaker 6>We're going to show what these drugs are doing to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, straight down the line. Not mincing his words there,

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<v Speaker 2>but Donald Trump has also revived a campaign vowing to

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<v Speaker 2>designate Mexico's drug cartels as terrorist groups.

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<v Speaker 6>Under the orders I signed today, we will also be

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<v Speaker 6>designating the cartels as foreign terrorist organizations. I will direct

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<v Speaker 6>our government to use the full and immense power of

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<v Speaker 6>federal and state law enforcement to eliminate the presence of

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<v Speaker 6>all foreign gangs and criminal networks bringing devastating crime to US.

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<v Speaker 4>Soil Max.

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<v Speaker 2>What will this mean to classify Mexican cartels as terrorist groups?

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<v Speaker 2>And will it help fight the scourge of drugs from

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<v Speaker 2>over the border.

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<v Speaker 8>What I think Trump is trying to signal here is

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<v Speaker 8>that border security is national security, and that was really

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<v Speaker 8>one of his big advantages over the Biden administration, which

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<v Speaker 8>saw an unprecedented number of illegal immigrants. I mean, we're

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<v Speaker 8>talking large numbers, you know, maybe twelve million, thirteen million,

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<v Speaker 8>fourteen million, We're not even entirely sure, but the number

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<v Speaker 8>is big, and naturally, some of them came into the

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<v Speaker 8>United States and produced heinous crimes. And so Trump, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>who was mocked previously for saying that securing the border

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<v Speaker 8>was important, is now fully committed to that agenda. And

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<v Speaker 8>part of that is cracking down on the fentanyl. That's

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<v Speaker 8>the main drug that is supplied by the Mexican cartels.

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<v Speaker 8>And what he is trying to do is elevate the

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<v Speaker 8>cartels to a terrorism problem by designating them as a

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<v Speaker 8>foreign terrorist organization. And there are all sorts of ways

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<v Speaker 8>that Trump might really crack down on these cartels. Some

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<v Speaker 8>of it would be through the treasury, some of it

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<v Speaker 8>would be deploying troops. We could be talking about kinetic

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<v Speaker 8>operations inside of Mexico. I've heard that floated as well.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not entirely sure what Trump will do with these cartels.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think anybody knows at this point. But by

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<v Speaker 8>saying this, he's elevating the cartels to a traditional national

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<v Speaker 8>security problem in the form of a foreign terrorist organization

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<v Speaker 8>like Al Qaeda, like Islamic State.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, look, I think it's a good move,

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt it's a crisis. And he's also very very

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<v Speaker 2>quickly standing firm. What it does come to that border

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<v Speaker 2>crisis because he said that he declare illegal immigration at

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<v Speaker 2>the US Mexico border a national emergency, send troops there,

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<v Speaker 2>and ramp up deportations of criminal offenders. This is what

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<v Speaker 2>he said.

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<v Speaker 6>First, I will declare a national emergency at our southern border.

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<v Speaker 6>All illegal entry will immediately be halted, and we will

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<v Speaker 6>begin the process of returning millions and millions of criminal

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<v Speaker 6>aliens back to the places from which they came.

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<v Speaker 4>Max.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting Donald Trump said he will invoke US seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety eight wartime law known as the Alien Enemies Act

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<v Speaker 2>to target foreign gang members in the US.

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<v Speaker 4>What will this do?

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<v Speaker 2>What sort of an impact do you think this is

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<v Speaker 2>going to have.

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<v Speaker 8>I think that there are a number of steps in

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<v Speaker 8>this process. One step is that there will not be

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<v Speaker 8>new illegal immigrants coming into the United States. On top

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<v Speaker 8>of that, the more difficult problem is what to do

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<v Speaker 8>with the illegals currently in the United States. And the

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<v Speaker 8>even more difficult problem is what to do in cases

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<v Speaker 8>when illegal immigrants inside the United States have had children.

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<v Speaker 8>And it's honestly not entirely clear what Trump is going

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<v Speaker 8>to do with the extant illegal immigrants in the United States.

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<v Speaker 8>We know that there will be deportations, even mass deportations.

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<v Speaker 8>Those might start with illegals who, on top of that

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<v Speaker 8>criminal behavior, have conducted other crimes. So we're not entirely

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<v Speaker 8>sure which illegals, whether it's all illegals, will be forcefully removed,

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<v Speaker 8>but certainly some of them. That's what he is pledging

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<v Speaker 8>to do. And interestingly, that sets up conflict between the

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<v Speaker 8>federal government and some seats which are left leaning, and

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<v Speaker 8>especially in cities that are so called sanctuary cities, which

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:19.920
<v Speaker 8>say that they're essentially going to oppose federal law. And

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<v Speaker 8>so we'll see how all of this shakes down. But

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<v Speaker 8>a huge part of the MAGA movement has really focused

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<v Speaker 8>on this porous border, the prevention of illegals, the removal

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<v Speaker 8>of them inside the country, and with it a reduction

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<v Speaker 8>in crime, which really has been elevated in a number

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<v Speaker 8>of American cities.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh look, absolutely, and this is one of the big

0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:51.920
<v Speaker 2>topics that Donald Trump was elected on, so he's acting

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<v Speaker 2>on it very quickly. Now I want to talk about

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:56.960
<v Speaker 2>this preemptive part and given by Joe Biden at the

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<v Speaker 2>eleventh hour to General Martin Miley, a former top officer

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<v Speaker 2>in the US military. Now this was all due to

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<v Speaker 2>that chaotic Afghanistan withdrawal in twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 4>Miley has previously admitted.

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<v Speaker 2>That the withdrawal there where thirteen US troops lost their lives.

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:14.520
<v Speaker 2>He admitted at the time that it was a strategic failure.

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<v Speaker 2>But Max, Okay, he may have been preemptly pardoned here,

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<v Speaker 2>but does he still need to be held to account.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, that may be the case. I think that there's

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<v Speaker 8>a big political element to all of this, and I

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<v Speaker 8>think that Trump really heats Miley for a number of reasons.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, one of them is this botched withdrawal which

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<v Speaker 8>ended up killing thirteen Americans. It was also based on

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<v Speaker 8>a very poor understanding of Afghanistan, which highlighted a much

0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:59.640
<v Speaker 8>broader problem because with drop was predicated on this idea

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:04.280
<v Speaker 8>that the Taliban wasn't going to swiftly take over the country,

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:08.799
<v Speaker 8>which obviously was an assumption based on a terrible understanding

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:13.400
<v Speaker 8>of Afghanistan after all that time. On top of that,

0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 8>there's more to the bad blood between Trump and Miley. Miley,

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:21.520
<v Speaker 8>you know, was the joint the joint Chief of staff

0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:27.320
<v Speaker 8>head under Trump, and he was seen as being almost

0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:33.759
<v Speaker 8>treasonous making phone calls with the Chinese uh conversations, uh

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:39.160
<v Speaker 8>with the Roan going behind President Trump's back, and then

0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:46.359
<v Speaker 8>after Trump essentially campaigning against Trump and calling him a

0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:50.880
<v Speaker 8>fascist and a wanna be dictator. And so there was

0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:54.799
<v Speaker 8>a concern that Trump was going to, you know, go

0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:58.920
<v Speaker 8>after Miley, and you know, these are very partisan times,

0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:02.319
<v Speaker 8>and Biden wanted to make sure that you know, might

0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:04.360
<v Speaker 8>be you know, wouldn't get in trouble for it. So

0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:07.120
<v Speaker 8>that's really the backstory behind all of this.

0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's truly fascinating down at the eleventh hour,

0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:15.720
<v Speaker 2>in those final moments of his presidency. Very fascinating. Max Abrams,

0:48:15.800 --> 0:48:17.400
<v Speaker 2>nice to catch up with you. Thanks very much for

0:48:17.480 --> 0:48:18.640
<v Speaker 2>joining me on the show this evening.

0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:20.880
<v Speaker 8>My pleasure.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it for me. Up next is News Night, Good Night,