Speaker 1: Welcome to the Code and I Roll Show Michael carry
Speaker 1: On showing by Brenton.
Speaker 2: Ree Ready, just two of us, make very intimate.
Speaker 1: Where's your man, Dave.
Speaker 2: He's somewhere assignment. He's probably the sharks.
Speaker 1: Sharks, that's all he does.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that you've just said that.
Speaker 1: Concord. The other day, I heard him asking Hard let's start.
Speaker 1: We're not going to bang on about the Tigers because
Speaker 1: it has been the story of the last two weeks.
Speaker 1: Though just quickly. You're quite critical around Adam Dewey and
Speaker 1: been recorded back to the side of earlier this week.
Speaker 1: I was with you like I thought, yes, you were,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: But after you sound like you had a backtrack there
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 1: I am reversing. After the press conference, I'm quite comfortable
Speaker 1: that he's going to play.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I didn't think he should have come back
Speaker 2: in the side straight away. I thought he should have
Speaker 2: come back through news to the last Cup. I made
Speaker 2: that pretty clear clear. I still stand by that. But
Speaker 2: I can understand why Benji's done it when you consider
Speaker 2: they were both pretty well. I wouldn't say they're both
Speaker 2: remorse at the press conference this week, but they took Yeah,
Speaker 2: you could see there was a bit of yeah, you're right,
Speaker 2: ownership on both sides. And the other issue they've got
Speaker 2: is if you look at their hearts at the moment,
Speaker 2: farn who's suspended, Jock Madden's injured, Jav and Andrews played
Speaker 2: last week and look, I mean, with due respect, the
Speaker 2: Javin's first game in the NNA. He's going to be
Speaker 2: a role player for a long time. But he found
Speaker 2: the going really tough. So you've really only got Lua
Speaker 2: and Dewey to play. So I can understand why do
Speaker 2: you back on the side, because you know what, above
Speaker 2: all else, Mick, they need to win footy games like
Speaker 2: it's so die there at the moment, and the only
Speaker 2: way you stop a lot of the negative headlines and
Speaker 2: a lot of the negativity around the football club is
Speaker 2: to actually win. And Adam gives you the best then
Speaker 2: their best chance of winning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the narrative would have been if they lost
Speaker 1: on signy, Adam wasn't out or wide and you play
Speaker 1: Adam when he had to play Adam right, And look,
Speaker 1: they still we'll probably lose like that. It'll be a
Speaker 1: tough game. It will be an interesting game against Paris.
Speaker 2: There are a chance there are any money chance.
Speaker 1: The reason I'm comfortable with him playing with him playing
Speaker 1: is I really like what I heard from Benji and
Speaker 1: Adam in terms of ownership, in terms of accountability, in
Speaker 1: terms of remorse around the way the whole week played
Speaker 1: out as well, and some contrition, particularly from Adam's party,
Speaker 1: was quite honest, saying he can be pigeted and hard
Speaker 1: to deal with and these sort of things, and working
Speaker 1: with you, please, I've never walked out. I think I
Speaker 1: think it was. Yeah, I thought I thought it trade
Speaker 1: some maturity, some levelheadedness, and because of that, I'm comfortable.
Speaker 2: Do you think did you believe Hi when he said
Speaker 2: I'm going to be here, I've never broken a contract.
Speaker 2: I'll be here for the next three years.
Speaker 1: When he said I'm going to be here for the
Speaker 1: next I've never broken a contract. Pretty strong words. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think he's going to be there. You're
Speaker 1: not convinced.
Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred percent convinced. I think my gut
Speaker 2: feelings said yeah, he will be I'm about ninety five
Speaker 2: ninety five.
Speaker 1: Would where were you in the lead up to that
Speaker 1: press conference?
Speaker 2: Fifty to fifty? I reckon. But when you front the
Speaker 2: media like that and you speak like that, and you're
Speaker 2: so definitive and so convicted, and what you say like that,
Speaker 2: I'm not going anywhere. I've got a contract. I've never
Speaker 2: broken a contract. I love this club. It's hard to
Speaker 2: turn around from that. It's hard to then turn around
Speaker 2: the off season and go I'm going to walk out
Speaker 2: of this joy. So look, I think you'll stay he
Speaker 2: was obviously Yeah, I think he's going to stay there,
Speaker 2: which I think is good news that Footag club because
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of halves in the mud. Well
Speaker 2: there's some good helves coming off at the end of
Speaker 2: next season, right, But they need him, they need him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, with Lua next year, you can't start the season
Speaker 1: with no Jerome and no Adam. My issue is around
Speaker 1: what's doing with his shoulder, Like if he does need
Speaker 1: a reconstruction.
Speaker 2: Do it now?
Speaker 1: Well, what are they waiting for now? Like they got
Speaker 1: to buy next week.
Speaker 2: I'm not waiting put him out the pasture, get the
Speaker 2: surgery done.
Speaker 1: Blade Lebanon like obviously in the World Cup. But like
Speaker 1: they need him, they without your Rome, they need him
Speaker 1: and they need him for a large chunk of pre
Speaker 1: season next year. So if he doesn't need a reconstruction.
Speaker 1: I'm not waiting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're fair cool. No, I'm with your mick. I mean,
Speaker 2: it looks mathematically they're still stop it, but mathematically they are,
Speaker 2: and you've got to give your fans some hope. You can't.
Speaker 2: I think once we're out of mathematical contention, then maybe
Speaker 2: you put him out to pass.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't think you do.
Speaker 1: What numbers you're using, they're not playing for one?
Speaker 2: How many games they won? Seven?
Speaker 1: Don't care?
Speaker 2: It's six left this week weekend? It's official. They lose
Speaker 2: this weekend, they're gone, ski right, officially gone, officially.
Speaker 1: Give you the tip.
Speaker 2: I'm not arguing with you. What I'm saying is they're
Speaker 2: mathematically still hope. So what message does it sending.
Speaker 1: The second last?
Speaker 2: How many wins are they got?
Speaker 1: They've got seven?
Speaker 2: How many games left? Six?
Speaker 1: Okay, it's six.
Speaker 2: I think that's right.
Speaker 1: We're not even arguing about this. They're not playing.
Speaker 2: We are. You've started, you have started argument about it.
Speaker 1: So you think they're going to play. Do you think
Speaker 1: they can play? You think they can play?
Speaker 2: For no?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm not saying you they will, But
Speaker 1: you think they can play finals.
Speaker 2: Well, know what I said was they're mathematically actually you
Speaker 2: know what, I've actually got it wrong. They've only got
Speaker 2: five games left, so theoretically they if even if they
Speaker 2: win five more games, only win twelve games, and twelve
Speaker 2: probably doesn't get you there. So they probably are out
Speaker 2: of math mathematical contention already. So yeah, she's telling me
Speaker 2: going already. So yeah, I'm with you now. They probably
Speaker 2: if he needs surgery, get the seon.
Speaker 1: If he needs a reco if it's just a clean
Speaker 1: out or whatever, fine, no where he can put off.
Speaker 1: But if he needs a shoulder reconstruction, I'm not wasting
Speaker 1: time now, I'm getting it done. And during bulls the
Speaker 1: other one, because he needs shoulder reconstruction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he hasn't. He's looked a shadow of himself.
Speaker 1: They've all looked a shadow. With a big game up
Speaker 1: against Paramatto, been up and down, a.
Speaker 2: Very winnable game.
Speaker 1: It definitely is a winner.
Speaker 2: It's interested in the Jerome Blue Eye up against his
Speaker 2: future one year club.
Speaker 1: He's probably thankful in a way that Adam's taking all
Speaker 1: the pressure off Jerome around Jerome, right, But because of
Speaker 1: the Adam situation, who you're tipping in in that one.
Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna tip the Tigers. Mick, I think the
Speaker 2: Tigers might get them. What do you reckon?
Speaker 1: I've got no confidence, no confidence at all, the second
Speaker 1: last up against third last word, no confidence in either
Speaker 1: of them. But you're going.
Speaker 2: Tigers the Tigers.
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to Speaking of size at the
Speaker 1: bottom of the ladder, Saint George Laurie, Dragons, Rising Dragons.
Speaker 1: Depends on if you're going to have a silly take.
Speaker 2: On night, it's probably guaranteed a silly take.
Speaker 1: So they signed cod nick Arema this week. That adds
Speaker 1: to Scott drink Water obviously. Nick Arema Watson metcalf Army
Speaker 1: coll coma tonguey six six players players that five of
Speaker 1: them will walk into their starting thirteen and Connor Watson
Speaker 1: just depends on how you use it, but is a
Speaker 1: weekly starter for or weekly fixture in their seventeen right,
Speaker 1: So five out of thirteen locked in probably six with
Speaker 1: Connor if you're going to start him at thirteen is
Speaker 1: probably where I like to play him, But just depends
Speaker 1: on that situation.
Speaker 2: Look at Hamish Stewart, they haven't had thirteen, yeah, but
Speaker 2: thirteen at that footy club.
Speaker 1: But depending on where you think Hamish's best position is
Speaker 1: on edge, oh whatever, but like so five locked in
Speaker 1: and then Connor's in there seventeen every week of course,
Speaker 1: So where realistically, where can the Dragons finish next year?
Speaker 2: I reckon ten's a good finish for the next year,
Speaker 2: tense great finish when you consider their stone muddlust last
Speaker 2: this year they've won two games. You need to win
Speaker 2: thirteen games, twelve to thirteen games to make the finals
Speaker 2: next year, right, that's the standard amount of games. I
Speaker 2: don't think to win another ten or eleven games, eight
Speaker 2: or nine games sorry next year in additional eight and
Speaker 2: nine games, that's a big leap. Not many teams make
Speaker 2: that leap. And I'm not sure. I still think if
Speaker 2: you look at the sides outside the eight currently Melbourne
Speaker 2: camera the Bulldogs are all outside the eight. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think they're all better squads than the Dragon's going to
Speaker 2: have next year. So I'm not sure that. I think
Speaker 2: there's a lot of talking about that and then pushing
Speaker 2: for the top eight, and I'm sure inside the camp
Speaker 2: that's what they're aiming for. I think it might be
Speaker 2: beyond them.
Speaker 1: But if you've got them at tenth, they're pushing for
Speaker 1: the top eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think it's one of those tenths where
Speaker 2: you know they're always on the proof free and never really.
Speaker 1: I think I think it's a tenth, but a tenth
Speaker 1: that's pushing for the eight. Okay, Like, do you know
Speaker 1: I think if we're here this time next year, if
Speaker 1: we're still going, you know, they'll be they'll.
Speaker 2: Be you and I on the podcast either.
Speaker 1: Top eight contention. And if you're saying they're going to
Speaker 1: come tenth, you have to be agreeing with me.
Speaker 2: Well, no, I don't think they're a realistic.
Speaker 1: Five minutes ago that the Tigers are a chance of
Speaker 1: playing finals footy.
Speaker 2: Have four hundreds and third on mathematical.
Speaker 1: And at the moment, okay, tenth right now is mainly okay,
Speaker 1: do meinly have a hope playing finals footy this year?
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course they do.
Speaker 1: So the Dragons, you assume, by that same metric, have
Speaker 1: a hope playing finals footing.
Speaker 2: No, because I differ in my view of them. Right.
Speaker 2: My view of them is they'll never never never. Really
Speaker 2: mainly it's been in the eighth this year, right, they've
Speaker 2: just fallen out of it. My view is they'll never
Speaker 2: realistically be in contention, laws be floating around that tenth
Speaker 2: to fourteenth.
Speaker 1: Fourteenth would be a bad season. Yeah, I think tenth.
Speaker 1: I think tenth is part.
Speaker 2: Everyone's raving about their signings and I agree they've made
Speaker 2: good signings, right, But there's still some holes in that
Speaker 2: so le even their spine, even their spine, right, their
Speaker 2: spine to me, even with the signings they've made, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of question marks over that spine.
Speaker 1: Agree there is a risk factor to it that.
Speaker 2: Cuff hasn't played a lot of footing. Cody's thirty odd what, Yeah,
Speaker 2: hooker will be little.
Speaker 1: Probably hopefully it's little because Connor not.
Speaker 2: A and drink his drink. What is a really good player? Right?
Speaker 2: And people are bagging me because I said he wasn't
Speaker 2: the top you know, the top eight fullbacks in the
Speaker 2: comp And look, he's probably played at that level this year.
Speaker 2: He has been very good for the Cowboys, but if
Speaker 2: you stack them all up, he's not. He's not the
Speaker 2: top tier of fullback. So I still think there's a
Speaker 2: and for me, I always look at when I look
Speaker 2: at Premiership threats to top eight sides, final sides, I
Speaker 2: always like to look at this spine. I think that's
Speaker 2: for me, the most important part of any footy team, right,
Speaker 2: And I still say that spine is not among the
Speaker 2: elite spines in the comp. It's probably not in the
Speaker 2: top eight spines in the comp. That's the worry for me.
Speaker 2: And the outside backs are a bit lean.
Speaker 1: As we say, outside backs the number one issue. But
Speaker 1: you look at that that forward park and Keon it
Speaker 1: is very good, right, it is very good.
Speaker 2: You bang on about this for he is very young.
Speaker 1: And on into the mix, who's an world class player
Speaker 1: like that? And they've like they've marched up the field
Speaker 1: this year most games, most games they've at least matched
Speaker 1: the opposition forward pack. The next year, you know, if
Speaker 1: that's half the battle that they'll get, they will get
Speaker 1: to good positions on the field. They just can't score.
Speaker 2: Points they need. It's taken on a step forward. I think,
Speaker 2: of course, I can I ask you this. I meant
Speaker 2: to ask you this on three sixty last night about
Speaker 2: the halves Metcalfe, Nick Arema, like, how do you think
Speaker 2: that'll do? You think that will work?
Speaker 1: You speak to Luke. Luki is so sure of himself,
Speaker 1: and I want just to come across the wrong way
Speaker 1: because he's not arrogant. He's confident, right, he's so sure
Speaker 1: that he can run off footy side and direct a
Speaker 1: footy side and be I did Vegas with him last year,
Speaker 1: so speaking to him last year, he was he's a
Speaker 1: risk because what is he twenty seven to twenty eight
Speaker 1: hasn't played fifty first grade games? Crazy, So it's a
Speaker 1: weird stat line and it's weird to generally give someone
Speaker 1: that sort of money given their lack of footy that
Speaker 1: they've played. But I think it's very good player and
Speaker 1: what they will have in them. They're going to chance
Speaker 1: their arm. They're going to be a little bit loose
Speaker 1: at times. And you know Scott drink Water's got a
Speaker 1: clanger in him, right, we've seen it. That's going to
Speaker 1: be under the micros because he's at the Cowboys. Whilst
Speaker 1: he's been the main man this year because of Didon's injury,
Speaker 1: he hasn't had the expectation or the pressure to be
Speaker 1: like the main man that's going to arrive once against Sydney,
Speaker 1: like in Sydney next year at a big club. So
Speaker 1: that's that's going to be a different approach for him.
Speaker 1: And but I just think their creativity between the three
Speaker 1: of them will give the Dragons something they desperately crave.
Speaker 1: And I can't be critical of the club for getting
Speaker 1: themselves in a position now that for so long they've
Speaker 1: bought poorly and I've been so I've been so critical
Speaker 1: of the over the last few years. Right, I can't
Speaker 1: sit here and be critical of them because I can
Speaker 1: see the direction and the gaps that they need to
Speaker 1: fill in terms of the style of plower they've done that.
Speaker 2: I'm not being critical of the club for signing those
Speaker 2: guys like I think they could all potentially be great signings. Right, Drink,
Speaker 2: he might be a great signing for them if he
Speaker 2: maintains his form and this.
Speaker 1: Year Drink and I said at the time was the
Speaker 1: length of three years and the amount of money. That
Speaker 1: was what I was critical with at the time.
Speaker 2: And Metcalf Luke Metcalf may be a sensational signing.
Speaker 1: He'll either be great or element we've seen.
Speaker 2: We've seen the form he showed it last year. I
Speaker 2: started last year before he did his need unbelievable. Right,
Speaker 2: So they might be great signings, but there is a
Speaker 2: sense of there is a question mark over him.
Speaker 1: And Jacob Little is the other one who nine Who's
Speaker 1: I really like Jack a little as a player, but
Speaker 1: durability hasn't been any strength. Yeah, but he's another guy
Speaker 1: like he's fast, he's dynamic once he gets out of
Speaker 1: dumby half. So they've just got this well what it's
Speaker 1: given them now and this will help the outside backs. Right,
Speaker 1: They've got players that are threats now inside at the moment.
Speaker 1: Daniel Atkinson, Clink Guthas and Kyle Flanagan. They're not threats
Speaker 1: with the footy, right, So.
Speaker 2: I'll have some points in them, there's no doubt about and.
Speaker 1: I think you'll like get it right. I've been quite
Speaker 1: critical Valentine jins this like vow showing glimpses when he
Speaker 1: gets some space. He's still got speed and footwork, right,
Speaker 1: So if these guys can create those opportunities and he
Speaker 1: gets more one on one option like one on one opportunities,
Speaker 1: I think there's still life in val at that point.
Speaker 1: But the questions, as you said, is around their center spot.
Speaker 1: Does Guttherson play there, There's Atkinson play there, there's most
Speaker 1: of Souley resurrect his career and play there. You know
Speaker 1: that's that's an issue for him. And you know what
Speaker 1: they do with Atkinson and Kyle Flannagan, Now where do
Speaker 1: they sit in terms of peck in order. They got
Speaker 1: high hopes for caid Reid, so you know, I think
Speaker 1: cad Read is probably the back up half. That's the
Speaker 1: intention is that next year that cad Reid is the
Speaker 1: backup half. So there's a lot of dissect there and
Speaker 1: I feel like guthuson Atkinson planning again, or we know
Speaker 1: Sulei's on the market, but if any club came knocking
Speaker 1: for any of those players that they'd be open to
Speaker 1: let them go.
Speaker 2: You win me over, Mick. You're slowly winning me over
Speaker 2: with this.
Speaker 1: Well, but I'm not because I'm not saying anything that's unrealistic.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're a top four side. They're far
Speaker 1: from the top five side, right, But I think this
Speaker 1: time next year that will be they should be in
Speaker 1: finals contention because they've recruited really, really well and they
Speaker 1: could jagging outside back if some other things move. You know,
Speaker 1: they've shown that they're not going to be conservative in
Speaker 1: the player market. They're going to be active and then
Speaker 1: they can get deals done. The cod Nick Arema deal
Speaker 1: came out of nowhere. Really, we hadn't heard I don't
Speaker 1: heard a whisper about it. We thought he was going
Speaker 1: to I don't heard a whisper about it till about
Speaker 1: twenty four hours before it all sort of came out right,
Speaker 1: So it all happened discreetly. And I think he's a
Speaker 1: good signing from interesting Dragons Dolphins. Cody nick Arema plays
Speaker 1: on Friday up against the club that he's very rare
Speaker 1: that you get announcement of a player joining the club
Speaker 1: in the week that they're playing. But the Drags were
Speaker 1: absolutely disgraceful last weekend. They were wakeful. It was like
Speaker 1: the Dragons of old. Like it was like the Dragons
Speaker 1: of the Week five.
Speaker 2: It still feels like they've got that game in them
Speaker 2: every now and then, right, I mean.
Speaker 1: I thought they'd gone beyond that a bit. But I
Speaker 1: think the Dolphins could win and win well.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, I think I think I tip the Dolphins. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I can never remember.
Speaker 1: Tip I can, but there's no way you tipped the Dragon.
Speaker 2: Tipped the Dragons once this year last week. Unluckly, I
Speaker 2: tipped the Titans last week and get up son, Yeah, Dolphins,
Speaker 2: I tip a couple of times next year, given some
Speaker 2: players coming.
Speaker 1: They played the Tigers later this year. Who that's going
Speaker 1: to be an interesting one that.
Speaker 2: Will be an interesting game depends if the Tigers have
Speaker 2: sent after squad for surgery.
Speaker 1: Yes, Thursday night kicks off Cowboys v. Rooster's big game.
Speaker 1: But one player that won't be playing is Tom did
Speaker 1: And Read Money won't be playing for North QUEENSLANDA because
Speaker 1: of the concussion protocols as well. Daniel Tupa missing for
Speaker 1: the Roosters. Lindsay Collins still side and probably a week away.
Speaker 1: Lindsay Collins from being back. But lots of talk and
Speaker 1: chatter over the last six months around Tom did And
Speaker 1: injured at the moment. But what's your take on the
Speaker 1: Tom did in situation. The story is the rumblings that
Speaker 1: we've all heard.
Speaker 2: Well, this started in the pre season. I remember, I
Speaker 2: can't know where he was, but Triple M did a whisper,
Speaker 2: and the whisper was that Tommy did and was going
Speaker 2: to wanted to move to Sydney right because his partner
Speaker 2: is lives in Sydney and she's now pregnant. She wasn't
Speaker 2: pregnant at the time. She's now pregnant, and obviously the
Speaker 2: Cowboys at the time shut it down, but it's subsequently
Speaker 2: emerged and been some talks between his management and the
Speaker 2: Cowboys about his situation. Right his situation situation the Cowboy
Speaker 2: was given his partner lives in Sydney, has a business
Speaker 2: in Sydney, and whatever. Out of those talks, I believe
Speaker 2: tom agreed to stay and sort of try and work
Speaker 2: through things and see if he could work through things
Speaker 2: with his partner moving up to towns Were. Now Obviously
Speaker 2: the whistlers haven't gone away, Mick. You've heard him. I've
Speaker 2: heard him. They've rumbled again this week because he's part
Speaker 2: of us, I said, is now pregnant and she's due
Speaker 2: later this year. And as I understand that she's going
Speaker 2: to move up there, live in Townsville. See how it goes.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't think this is over though, Mick.
Speaker 2: You know, I think my sense is that at some
Speaker 2: point it might reretate again. At the moment, it's pretty
Speaker 2: it sounds like they've sort of the situation out the Cowboys,
Speaker 2: but there's club's keeping an eye on the situation with
Speaker 2: Tommy did because he's such a good player.
Speaker 1: Such a good player, but he's on big money, right,
Speaker 1: huge money. You had this around what's what's what's his contract?
Speaker 2: So his contract is next year he's on about I
Speaker 2: think it's around one two, one three, and then the
Speaker 2: year after he's on I believe twelve percent of whatever
Speaker 2: the salary cap is, So if the Caps will imagine
Speaker 2: it will be about fifteen sixty million, so he'll be
Speaker 2: on one point one point nine million.
Speaker 1: That would probably make him the highest player in the
Speaker 1: game just about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he be given be given a nudge. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think Mitch and Mitch Ma's and Nathan clearly highest paid.
Speaker 2: I believe they both probably got ratchets and their deals,
Speaker 2: so they might go beyond him actually, but yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a significant amount of money and the Cowboys have made
Speaker 2: that investment in him and they don't want to see
Speaker 2: him go, right, So it's one of those ones you've
Speaker 2: got to watch and see where this goes. Mick down
Speaker 2: the track. I don't think it's there's anything imminent.
Speaker 1: So you think he's at the Cowboys next year?
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think he'll be. Well, I think
Speaker 2: he will be, but I wouldn't put my house on it,
Speaker 2: just because when you're dealing with situations like this where
Speaker 2: potentially a partner may may be unsettled because as I said,
Speaker 2: she's from Sydney, got a business in Sydney. I imagine
Speaker 2: her family's in Sydney and she's about about to have
Speaker 2: their first child. You know that that can be difficult, right,
Speaker 2: So I think again, I think it's a watch and
Speaker 2: see thing with.
Speaker 1: Tommy, Cowboys, Roosters. What's your tip?
Speaker 2: My tip is the Roosters. I think for memory watch
Speaker 2: of you on the TI in situation.
Speaker 1: Oh well, it's something that we've all heard, right, and clubs,
Speaker 1: I'm sure in the background we're doing their calculations to
Speaker 1: see if they could try and get him in and
Speaker 1: what would take. And there's no way the Cowboys were
Speaker 1: even going to contemplate let him go unless they've got
Speaker 1: an elite player in return at the moment to hard
Speaker 1: basket for that to happen. But I feel like, as
Speaker 1: you said, maybe they've committed see how it goes in Townsville.
Speaker 1: If they can settle as a new fan like new
Speaker 1: parents and things like that, then he might see out
Speaker 1: his contract. But there was no doubt rumblings that we'd
Speaker 1: all heard and clubs were made aware of his not
Speaker 1: his availability, but the potential for his availability.
Speaker 2: And but look, he's such an important player, such a
Speaker 2: good player.
Speaker 1: Without drink water there turn out like he becomes so
Speaker 1: important because you know Perdue will go to fullback that
Speaker 1: becomes really young and things like that. So it didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he is the long term Queensland potentially Queensland captor. You know,
Speaker 1: like he's got everything going for him. So on the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Obviously I'm not letting him go without a fight. But
Speaker 1: so you've tip roosters, Tip the roosters. Who got me
Speaker 1: to a couple more games to run through radio Friday night,
Speaker 1: second game Storm the Bulldogs storm. Any hope, well there
Speaker 1: hope there still thought you would say that there's a.
Speaker 2: Hot tip that hated a young kid will make us
Speaker 2: to do in this game. Hayden Watson, good player, young
Speaker 2: nine in year old queens and kid. He was a
Speaker 2: strange schoolboys hooker. He's a half years a hooker. He
Speaker 2: played a lot of hooker as a kid. But they've
Speaker 2: moved into half half five eighted that the storm he's
Speaker 2: been playing. New said last cup, killing it, New said,
Speaker 2: last cup. Strong marlet he will actually start this game.
Speaker 2: So I'm not sure what's going on there, but.
Speaker 1: I mean Tyrone wish I to hooker or would that
Speaker 1: mean he plays hooker.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what the movie is Mick that I'm
Speaker 2: not aware of, but tip keep an eye him because
Speaker 2: he is a gun. My tip is.
Speaker 1: Bulldogs, Me too, Bulldogs Top eight.
Speaker 2: I reckoning you to make it. You know them well camera,
Speaker 2: one of them will sneak in. They're most flying.
Speaker 1: He drops out Newcastle, I feel so. I hope Newcastle. Actually,
Speaker 1: I hope Newcastle don't drop out. They don't deserve they
Speaker 1: don't deserve to. But Titans Warriors. Titans really impressive against
Speaker 1: the Dragon the Warriors. We're talking about how bad the
Speaker 1: Dragons were. The Warriors were diabolically against the Titans.
Speaker 2: Where is this?
Speaker 1: What do you think of Luke Metcalf. We spoke around
Speaker 1: Luke Metcalf. Does he need to come back into that side?
Speaker 2: Mickle. I've actually been saying for an eternity that I
Speaker 2: think they need they need him in the team, but
Speaker 2: I haven't seen. Now he's been going on Caper, so
Speaker 2: I'm told he's been going good. I think they're a
Speaker 2: better team when he's in it and playing well, So
Speaker 2: I think they've got to bring him back eventually. They
Speaker 2: want to make a dent in the finals. I think
Speaker 2: gold Coaster win this game.
Speaker 1: Warriors.
Speaker 2: They're just playing so well.
Speaker 1: Play well. They are playing well by the Warriors need
Speaker 1: to bounce back. They look like a bottom four side. Really.
Speaker 1: Panthers Raiders the Mudgie Mudgie clash. What do you make
Speaker 1: of that?
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what big change of the Panthers dropping
Speaker 2: Blaze to Lungey out?
Speaker 1: I do you agree with that?
Speaker 2: I'm not going to second guess Ivan Cleary, right, I
Speaker 2: think defensively, we've all known defensively that's been a spot
Speaker 2: area for them, right, If you want to get at them,
Speaker 2: you target that left side of their defense where Blaze
Speaker 2: and Casey McLean. He's missed a lot of tackles this year.
Speaker 2: Blaze lunge her second most, I mean five. The comp
Speaker 2: behind as a man, So I can understand why they've
Speaker 2: done it, But I'll be interested to see how long
Speaker 2: it continues for I don't think it's a permanent thing, Mick.
Speaker 1: I think Jack Holler could do a real good job there,
Speaker 1: and if he does, it could be not a long
Speaker 1: term player, but in terms.
Speaker 2: Of the Philip the more dangerous side with the ball.
Speaker 2: When Blaze plays as opposed to Jack Couger. That fair enough.
Speaker 1: But when you've got points of attack on Dylan Edwards's
Speaker 1: back as I Nathan Cleary, Papa Lee, he Casey McLean,
Speaker 1: Tom Jenkins, do you need a date?
Speaker 2: Like? Maybe not?
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Like? It's there's enough
Speaker 1: points of attack there. He's obviously a better attacking player
Speaker 1: than more dangerous than Jack. But I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think I actually like to move. I really like it
Speaker 1: because I think they've been vulnerable and makes a.
Speaker 2: Little suggestion here for Blaze to ling if I'm Paramatta right,
Speaker 2: he's in November one guy. Yes, I'm dead to having
Speaker 2: a last to try and get him back to Paramatta.
Speaker 2: Why not if he can't get a deal done in
Speaker 2: Penrith his brother still Paramatter. Yeah, I'm that they need
Speaker 2: a six. We know that they've also got to run
Speaker 2: there next year, but it's a twelve month thing. I
Speaker 2: know they've got some kids coming through, but Blaze telling
Speaker 2: is a para kid. I'm having to go to get
Speaker 2: him back.
Speaker 1: I can't believe he hasn't got a doing it next
Speaker 1: year Ronald Walkman. Obviously he's not at the top end,
Speaker 1: but in terms of backup halves, he's been so good
Speaker 1: for Paramatta, so serviceable. You know me, gosh, next to
Speaker 1: nothing to have him in your books.
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable, because you're right, he's been very good for
Speaker 2: par of this. He's surprised, surprisingly good right in difficult circumstances.
Speaker 2: And I can't believe the club hasn't sign him either,
Speaker 2: because you're right, he won't cost your bomb. He's a
Speaker 2: bargain basement pick up. Should pick him, make it happened.
Speaker 1: Broncos up against the Knights, Broncos. Broncos have done the Bronx.
Speaker 1: I really feel sorry. I'm tipping the Broncos too, but
Speaker 1: I really feel sorry for the night.
Speaker 2: That's the worst time.
Speaker 1: I hope it's just been. I don't observe it even
Speaker 1: like to get within a point of that game last
Speaker 1: week when they had the players they have got injured,
Speaker 1: plus no Callen and Seffeti and back this week and
Speaker 1: he's been named so yeah, they they they definitely need him.
Speaker 1: Dylan Lucas and Dylan Brown gone for the season, so
Speaker 1: huge two outs for him. But Broncos. For me too,
Speaker 1: the last time we haven't spoken about Sharks for Rabbits
Speaker 1: can Cronolin winning his competition like have they they've served?
Speaker 1: So for mine it was Penrith, then two three were
Speaker 1: very close in terms of Rooster's Warriors, and then I
Speaker 1: found the Sharks Dolphins sort of as that next tier.
Speaker 1: Sharks are now in that next tier above.
Speaker 2: Have they jumped the Warriors?
Speaker 1: They jumped the Warriors, Bryan in terms of their last performance.
Speaker 1: So for me now it goes Penrith dip Brewster, Sharks
Speaker 1: dip Warriors dip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you man. They're playing such good
Speaker 2: Footio Nicko and Nicko's skin and trindle, but the question
Speaker 2: mark always with is the finals, whether they can do
Speaker 2: it in the finals.
Speaker 1: That's been They look different this year, but I do agree,
Speaker 1: not this year, the last six weeks that looked different.
Speaker 2: Nick We've looked at them before and thought this, so
Speaker 2: I can do something.
Speaker 1: Look I'm looking at a bit differently now. Well something
Speaker 1: of course, but there's just something a little bit different
Speaker 1: about it, with a bit more freedom or a bit
Speaker 1: more confident, a bit more swagger that like they don't
Speaker 1: there's going to be some big games before the finals,
Speaker 1: but they don't have that that era of uncertainty around
Speaker 1: them at the moment. So I'm really liking what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think there's a different look
Speaker 2: to them, but I still want to see it in
Speaker 2: September until they do it. When the whips are cracking
Speaker 2: pointing into the season, what are the cliches can I
Speaker 2: drag out? That's when I believe in them, right, because
Speaker 2: they've got a great coach, like he's an unbelievable coach, FITZI.
Speaker 2: There's their squad looks cherry right right. Their halves are
Speaker 2: playing well and the key, the key for them is
Speaker 2: always their halves.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: When those halves play well, they're capable of beating anyone.
Speaker 2: They just need to do it in Septembers with you chucks,
Speaker 2: oh ducks.
Speaker 1: All right, Time for the b s Messages of the weak.
Speaker 2: I've got a message today, bick you do yeah for
Speaker 2: the fans. For the fans. I was looking on the
Speaker 2: ABC Instagram Yes this morning, Yes, and there was a
Speaker 2: clip up Dennis can't Dennis Carahan, I think that's his name.
Speaker 2: He's done a song song comparing you and about you,
Speaker 2: and Michael Chammas.
Speaker 1: Carry Nis and Chammers kick for the press. Carryanas and
Speaker 1: Chammers are such a pretty pair. Carrianas and Chammers. One's
Speaker 1: good and one's a pass.
Speaker 2: How you always get mixed up? Which does happen? Quite free?
Speaker 1: Bananas in pajamas?
Speaker 2: Bananas and pajamas. You're dressed up as a banana and
Speaker 2: pajamas thoughts.
Speaker 1: They played it on Sunday and it was quite very amusing.
Speaker 1: Dennis is a genius. But poor Dennis hasn't had a
Speaker 1: hit since That's in Queensland. He's a one hit one.
Speaker 1: So this is his back. Baby. I've made him relevant again,
Speaker 1: but I have made him relevant again, So den Dog,
Speaker 1: you're welcome.
Speaker 2: Did you get a cover of the royalties on that
Speaker 2: or what happened to? Well?
Speaker 1: ABC stuffed up the Bluey right, Hopefully they don't stuff
Speaker 1: up the Best Messages of the Week soft cause Dodger
Speaker 1: reviews by rounds. Nobody wanted. It's time to call it out.
Speaker 1: This is I call BS a segment where we tackle
Speaker 1: the nonsense in including the best messages you submit each
Speaker 1: week at Code sports dot com to AU. So let's
Speaker 1: get into it. This is from Steve from North Humberine, Tambourine.
Speaker 2: Tambourine is that look? Is that in Queensland. That's in Queensland.
Speaker 2: And there you go downs.
Speaker 1: The l persist with time wasting scrums. The scrum rules
Speaker 1: are ignored. Just give the board to the relevant team.
Speaker 1: So should they get rid of scrums?
Speaker 2: No, they shouldn't get rid of scrums. That is Tambourine.
Speaker 2: I think that's in Queensland near the Gold Coast. If
Speaker 2: it's Mount Tambourine north, you know what I'm saying. There's
Speaker 2: a place called Mount Tambourine, so maybe it's north Mount Tambourine. Anyway, No,
Speaker 2: they shouldn't get rid of.
Speaker 1: Steve knows where he's from.
Speaker 2: You got to keep scrums. It's part of the fabric
Speaker 2: of the game. What would you get rid of a
Speaker 2: basically redundant now anyways, let's just you know, they'ren't neat
Speaker 2: and tidy these days, and attack gives teams an attacking.
Speaker 1: I wish it would give teams they never use that.
Speaker 2: We saw it great? Great? What about the great scrum
Speaker 2: playing origin with Queensland scored.
Speaker 1: Great when they there were scrumb and they just turned
Speaker 1: an inside ball into.
Speaker 2: A Yeah, yeah, boring. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: That should be banned forwards in the stainless scrum.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you should push for that rule.
Speaker 1: I can't be bothered. Dale from Campbelltown. Time to drop
Speaker 1: leu Iron Dewey to reserve a out and close the
Speaker 1: door behind them. Talk to talk now, walk the walk Marshall. Wow,
Speaker 1: we disagree with that. Yeah, we're just a good disagree
Speaker 1: with everyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they can at the moment. They're
Speaker 2: a bit short short.
Speaker 1: I'm only saying, yes, he's going to get get his
Speaker 1: shoulder record had a shoulder. Okay, have you.
Speaker 2: From what I'm told and what I'm told from what
Speaker 2: I'm told about your football.
Speaker 1: But didn't do much at wasn't your chance? They did
Speaker 1: do a playing footy though, Did you kept dissiccating?
Speaker 2: I'll be able to put the shop put it back in.
Speaker 2: Did you? You're one tough hombro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that wraps up. That wasn't the bees by the way.
Speaker 1: That wraps up second for this week.
Speaker 2: Who want to hear We want to see his stay.
Speaker 2: That was a long time ago.
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