Speaker 1: From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Hello,
Speaker 1: Thank you Karen, thank you geting happy Sunday wherever you
Speaker 1: happen to be. You've got a lot to get to tonight,
Speaker 1: including my thoughts on the madness in Melbourne in the
Speaker 1: past couple of days, giving us their bold predictions for
Speaker 1: the week, and responding to some of the news. It's
Speaker 1: around one other than Lee Hanson and Michael Kroger, both
Speaker 1: here for a big chat and if like me, you're
Speaker 1: like your rock and roll and at times nice and hard.
Speaker 1: Izz the Osborne last time on stage today, last time
Speaker 1: We're Black Sabbath and some notable people who passed away
Speaker 1: who Austratings would know in a moment or two time
Speaker 1: before I get to again the madness in Melbourne. What
Speaker 1: about this story this weekend about the zoo or the worker.
Speaker 1: We don't know if it's a zoo keeper, but a
Speaker 1: Queensley woman who's had our arm ripped off by a lion.
Speaker 1: This was at a zoo not too far from to Woomba.
Speaker 1: This is the media and how they covered it today.
Speaker 1: Shocking incident at the Queensland Zoo.
Speaker 2: A woman has lost an arm after she was mauled
Speaker 2: by a line.
Speaker 3: A lion has mauled a woman at a Queensland zoo.
Speaker 4: The woman was inside the animal's enclosure while it was
Speaker 4: being cleaned when the big cat pounced.
Speaker 1: Now, thankfully, well I when they say she's okay, okay,
Speaker 1: she got an arm torn off right? Exactly how and
Speaker 1: when that detail comes out in the next little while.
Speaker 1: But the coverage has been amazing to have a look
Speaker 1: at today. Well done to the quary of Male of
Speaker 1: having all of the latest information on this giving the
Speaker 1: news startches to Queensland, but everyone around the country. But
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, what an extraordinary situation of what
Speaker 1: actually has taken place yet now again we don't have
Speaker 1: a huge amount of information, but here in part is
Speaker 1: what happened at Channel nine. I lead the story the
Speaker 1: show with this tonight because frankly it's the only one
Speaker 1: people we're talking about this weekend.
Speaker 4: The zoo revealing in a statement a much loved member
Speaker 4: of our family was watching keepers working in the carnival
Speaker 4: precinct when inexplicably, one animal grabbed her by one arm
Speaker 4: and caused severe damage. At no stage did this animal
Speaker 4: leave its enclosure, and there was no risk at all
Speaker 4: to staff all members of the public. The victim is
Speaker 4: described as having twenty years of experience entering the carnivore enclosure,
Speaker 4: well versed in safety protocols around potentially dangerous animals.
Speaker 1: You know, again, I don't know what took place here.
Speaker 1: I don't know whether this was as normal and something
Speaker 1: crazy has happened. This is why I'm always fearful, really
Speaker 1: always fearful. And I know we met plenty people around
Speaker 1: the country doing outtown who are with big animals, big
Speaker 1: animals in zoos like this, and they seem to be
Speaker 1: imperfect sync with them. But of course it is an animal,
Speaker 1: a wild animal, even if to some degree it ain't
Speaker 1: so well because it may all have spent much of
Speaker 1: its life into captivity. But you get the point. This
Speaker 1: was the reaction from the line protection director.
Speaker 5: In terms of something that's common, this is quite rare.
Speaker 5: I think we can kind of, you know, keep these
Speaker 5: guys captive. There's always going to be that spark of
Speaker 5: a wild animal, and I think today's pretty much testament
Speaker 5: to that. They're still unpredictable.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, and again this could have been much worse. Why
Speaker 1: wasn't it, Well, that's because of course, she was saved.
Speaker 4: Wheeled away on a stretcher. A zoo worker in her fifties,
Speaker 4: a victim of a big cat bite. Nine News understands
Speaker 4: she was saved by the quick actions of an employee
Speaker 4: who used a belt to tie a tornaquet.
Speaker 1: My goodness, that is extraordinary. You know those stories that
Speaker 1: are going to go around the world, This one is
Speaker 1: already going around the world. Why Wild Animals Australia, Queensland.
Speaker 1: Where we know more, you'll know more. Otherwise, keep an
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Speaker 1: Skyies dot com dot Au. Now to the madness in
Speaker 1: Melbourne this weekend, take your pick now, as you know,
Speaker 1: there is somebody who is currently before or court after
Speaker 1: being accused of spraying some sort of accelerant upon the
Speaker 1: doors of a synagogue that had people inside it. That
Speaker 1: fire was then lit and again this was an extraordinary
Speaker 1: scenario that thankfully did not become what many would have feared.
Speaker 1: As I say, somebody is before the court. So there's
Speaker 1: not a lot more that can be said about the
Speaker 1: specific incident apart from all of the obvious. But it
Speaker 1: wasn't the only stupid thing that happened when it came
Speaker 1: to a frankly dark and nasty thing that had happened
Speaker 1: in Melbourne this weekend in relation to parts of the
Speaker 1: Jewish community. Now, I don't know why people think that
Speaker 1: they are morally superior to others, which means they can
Speaker 1: just go and disrupt other people's lives. That is exactly
Speaker 1: what took place when a whole bunch of people decided
Speaker 1: to start storming the outside of a restaurant in Melbourne.
Speaker 1: Wait till you hear one of the people who is
Speaker 1: part of the regular protests that take place in their
Speaker 1: reaction to all of this. But this is some of
Speaker 1: the Jewish leaders, and there was responds to this crazy, wild,
Speaker 1: unacceptable and frightening weekend towards Jewish people in Melbourne. A
Speaker 1: synagogue firebomb, the second synagogue firebomb. Where is the government?
Speaker 6: It's beyond belief and I just feel that it's an
Speaker 6: Australian We do.
Speaker 4: Not have to wait for somebody to be killed or
Speaker 4: to be injured to take this threat and this growing
Speaker 4: threat seriously.
Speaker 7: We are talking about an attack on Melbournians, and on
Speaker 7: Victorians and on Australians. This is not just an attack
Speaker 7: upon Jews or the Jewish community. It is an attack
Speaker 7: upon our way of life.
Speaker 1: Now, no, Dad, I look forward to all of the
Speaker 1: usual suspects and all of the usual parts of the
Speaker 1: media telling us why none of this matters, nothing's connected
Speaker 1: to anything else. Have a look the other way. There
Speaker 1: is no broad based version of violence towards a particular
Speaker 1: religious minority. Look the other way. It's all just made up.
Speaker 1: Remember that was their attitude in the past. Asked, well again,
Speaker 1: you have scenarios that police at this stage believe are
Speaker 1: completely separate, which is the burning of the doors of
Speaker 1: the synagogue, and then this disruption of dinner, which was
Speaker 1: not just a couple of people hecking and carrying on.
Speaker 1: They got right in there. It turned out to be
Speaker 1: quite quite confronting for anyone who was there, and became
Speaker 1: quite violent. Now, from all of those who claim to
Speaker 1: be the betters amongst us, the leaders, you will notice
Speaker 1: one person missing the Victorian Premier storm. Nothing, not a
Speaker 1: word about what is happening in what she had previously
Speaker 1: described as the world save a city.
Speaker 6: Last night's us an attack on the synagogue in East
Speaker 6: Melbourne is cowardly, is an act of violence and anti
Speaker 6: Semitism and has no place in Australian society.
Speaker 1: This was clearly a targeted fire and we will not
Speaker 1: accept any acts of anti Semitism or hate based crime.
Speaker 8: Arson attacks, the chanting, calls for death, other attacks and graffiti.
Speaker 8: None of it belonged to Australia and they were attacks
Speaker 8: on Australia.
Speaker 9: A heinous act, a horrific act, a criminal act, and
Speaker 9: people will be held to account for it.
Speaker 1: Eventually we're going to see an outcome that no one
Speaker 1: wants to see, don't you like Tony Burke? And look again,
Speaker 1: he spoke, Prime Minister spoke all the rest of it.
Speaker 1: But you know when their heart's in it, right, you know,
Speaker 1: when they truly consider something to be a moral or
Speaker 1: national security outrage. Did you like how we were self
Speaker 1: editing there about the calls for death, and of course
Speaker 1: it's death. Death to the IDF is the most recent
Speaker 1: calls that have been made, including on the streets of Australia.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, we're just edit ourselves there because
Speaker 1: you know, we want to seen to be everywhere, but
Speaker 1: not all in because you know there'll be a problem. Well,
Speaker 1: despite the fact that these were the events of the weekend,
Speaker 1: there were more protests. Now again this situation. One of
Speaker 1: the joys of living this far away is that we
Speaker 1: do not need to live everything at the pace of life. Yes,
Speaker 1: sometimes we do, but the idea that this is the
Speaker 1: way to spend a weekend afternoon in Melbourne just does
Speaker 1: my head in. It truly does every now and then,
Speaker 1: but every single week anyway. This was some of the
Speaker 1: back and forth that happened in terms of some of
Speaker 1: the protesters that were around over the weekend but haven't
Speaker 1: listened to one of the apparent organizers of these protests
Speaker 1: also being asked about the nonsense that happened when it
Speaker 1: came to the restaurant. Now here's how it works. If
Speaker 1: you truly are anti something, you say I am anti No.
Speaker 1: If snowbuts have a listened, how yeah, but is what
Speaker 1: you hear about five seconds into this comic.
Speaker 2: We condemn any attack in any washer places, but all
Speaker 2: saw we condemned the double standards.
Speaker 9: Mohammad Shurab has led peaceful anti genocide demonstrations in Melbourne months.
Speaker 9: He regrets that things got physical. US was making no
Speaker 9: apologies on behalf of the activists who targeted the Jewish restaurant.
Speaker 2: Is not businesses or organized essens that aid and support
Speaker 2: genocide are not welcome here. This business should be boycotted
Speaker 2: and it should be as a financial target for us
Speaker 2: as the movement.
Speaker 1: Now, I put up, what are you talking about if
Speaker 1: there is a direct link between what you order on
Speaker 1: a Friday, Saturday or Sunday from a restaurant and war
Speaker 1: zones on the other side of the world. Okay, but
Speaker 1: in everything I saw, I didn't see any receipts. Is
Speaker 1: it because of the government that they support or the
Speaker 1: people that they are? Again, I see no receipts. Put
Speaker 1: this stuff up. There is nothing that justifies what took
Speaker 1: place this weekend. I just like, well, you know, we
Speaker 1: are boring, but it just doesn't work for that. Now,
Speaker 1: just sind around on one of the massive criticisms she's
Speaker 1: gonna copy here is she might punch something out on
Speaker 1: Twitter or put out a statement, get in front of
Speaker 1: one of these. Now, look, unless there's some personal reason
Speaker 1: why she was unable to and we may learn that
Speaker 1: in the next twenty four hours. It again shows and
Speaker 1: we have seen this when there is a situation the
Speaker 1: government deems serious enough, it's all hands on deck, everyone everywhere,
Speaker 1: all at once go. They clearly don't think that this
Speaker 1: stuff is I don't know why, because we know if
Speaker 1: it was any other faith, it was any other location,
Speaker 1: we all know what the national conversation would be, what
Speaker 1: the national response would be. More about this when we
Speaker 1: have a chat with Michael Kroger and Lee Hanson in
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes. You may well have noticed that
Speaker 1: we have passed the fourth of July. We are now
Speaker 1: the sixth of July in Australia. Son coming up on
Speaker 1: the same day in the United States. Well, Donald Trump
Speaker 1: is running fast towards his own self imposed deadline, and
Speaker 1: that is going to be on the ninth of July,
Speaker 1: and that is when a ten percent tariff is put
Speaker 1: onto every single country that exports things into the United States.
Speaker 1: Australia mostly affected by steel. Now, so I've said before,
Speaker 1: this is not an insignificant thing for the Australian economy,
Speaker 1: but it's also not going to be the end of
Speaker 1: times because of all of the things that we export
Speaker 1: to the United States. The number one of those is
Speaker 1: steel and it equates for about a quarter of the
Speaker 1: steel market. So again no one is pretending that it
Speaker 1: is not significant. But the way this will be played
Speaker 1: in the next few days that this is the reason
Speaker 1: why your mortgages have been high for the past three years.
Speaker 1: This is the reason why every time you go to
Speaker 1: the shops it has been widely expensive for the past
Speaker 1: few years. We all know that this government, in particular,
Speaker 1: with its terrible economic record, I don't care what happened
Speaker 1: to the election, with its terrible economic record at the
Speaker 1: last election talking a game on cost of living when
Speaker 1: the reality was things were getting worse, is now going
Speaker 1: to use the cover of Trump to blame everything. A
Speaker 1: perfect little example of that was some of the detail,
Speaker 1: or the pretty obvious between the lines that was being
Speaker 1: said by the Prime Minister at the Economic Future event
Speaker 1: which took place on Friday. You saw both the speech
Speaker 1: for the Prime Minister and a back and forth conversation
Speaker 1: with around Andrew Colnell. The whole event done in conjunction
Speaker 1: Sky News Australia and The Australian. Now basically he's turned
Speaker 1: around and pretty much given up on any sort of
Speaker 1: a change in the next few days. Now, remember there
Speaker 1: is a deadline. Presumably when there is a deadline and
Speaker 1: you are involved in the process of trying to avoid
Speaker 1: what you don't want to happen by the deadline, you'd
Speaker 1: be a little urgent. But of course, because he knows
Speaker 1: the politics is if this thing goes in, doesn't really
Speaker 1: hurt the Australian economy. It's an orange Man bad moment,
Speaker 1: which makes him look even better and freshly elected, and
Speaker 1: with Parliament coming back in the next couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: this is perfect for what he wants. But in part,
Speaker 1: this is what he said during those conversations on Friday.
Speaker 6: We are in a position where on July nine that
Speaker 6: won't really have an impact on us, because that's about
Speaker 6: other countries who have higher rates. We know that no
Speaker 6: country has a better tariff if you like level than
Speaker 6: ten percent. Now will continue to put our case we
Speaker 6: as we do.
Speaker 1: But he's a slippery one, right, and he's a very
Speaker 1: successful slippery one, and certainly people like myself and probably
Speaker 1: people like you are but not even stones in his
Speaker 1: shoes as an irritation. But believe me, he thinks about
Speaker 1: us a lot believe me, he talks about us a
Speaker 1: lot because people tell me. Right. But one of the
Speaker 1: questions in and around the effectiveness of Australia's ability to
Speaker 1: have the ten percent tariff removed is, of course the
Speaker 1: multiple times we have been this close to a meeting
Speaker 1: and it all falls away for whatever different reason. We
Speaker 1: also know that there was always at the heart of
Speaker 1: things a controversial person who was sent to the United States.
Speaker 1: Now the upside of this, it means that he can't
Speaker 1: do all of the freely wheeling he would do at home.
Speaker 1: Probably he'll end up as the Australian ambassador to the
Speaker 1: United Nations, or they'll just extend his term for the
Speaker 1: next four hundred years. Right. But again, one little line
Speaker 1: from the Prime Minister that came out on Friday that
Speaker 1: when I was watching I just you know what, I
Speaker 1: was yelling at the telly because he said.
Speaker 6: This when I went to the US. The connections that
Speaker 6: Kevin rad has. As much as people might be have
Speaker 6: had a view about Kevin over a period of time,
Speaker 6: no one could doubt his capacity, his hard work, his
Speaker 6: ability to work strongly.
Speaker 1: Now when I was in the United States, Kevin regards
Speaker 1: what you think of him he's doing an incredible job.
Speaker 1: This is one of the lines that's coming out right.
Speaker 1: The only problem is when he went to the Unit
Speaker 1: States during the Trump administration, I continue exactly where he went.
Speaker 1: He went to Seattle in Washington, where, of course they
Speaker 1: signed a deal with Amazon more data centers for Australia yay.
Speaker 1: And anyone who of course knows the difference between Washington,
Speaker 1: d C, where the president is, and where this announcement
Speaker 1: was being made, knows that it's about a how only
Speaker 1: forty hour drive. It literally is the other side of
Speaker 1: the country. It is basically as far away from Washington,
Speaker 1: DC as you can be when you go to America.
Speaker 1: So this idea that somehow, look when I was there before,
Speaker 1: I've seen him, a brushed past him. Come on. But
Speaker 1: it does bring us to a little more here where
Speaker 1: we know the times that he's been to the White House,
Speaker 1: of course, was with the previous president. Fine, they liked
Speaker 1: each other, they were closer breaking news Scott Morrison and
Speaker 1: Trump worked closer than he was with Biden. And you know,
Speaker 1: it is what happens, right, two blokes they get along
Speaker 1: and they don't get along. That's the way it works.
Speaker 1: But there is a little thing called the John Curtain oration,
Speaker 1: which wasn't a thing until Anthony Abernezi turned it into
Speaker 1: a thing when he was stalking Bill Shorden for all
Speaker 1: of those years that he was out of the game
Speaker 1: and he was able to free well and have big
Speaker 1: policy things and all covered as news because it was
Speaker 1: a person that the media liked well. Now as the
Speaker 1: reigning King and freshly reelected King of Australia, greatest prime
Speaker 1: minister of all time, he gave another speech this weekend.
Speaker 1: You may will have heard a little bit about it. Now,
Speaker 1: anyone who knows the history knows that John Curtin is
Speaker 1: one of one of the absolute most important prime ministers
Speaker 1: country's ever had. Why because rather than sending Aussie troops
Speaker 1: consistently over to Europe because that was the major focus
Speaker 1: of the UK and World War Two, he took a
Speaker 1: focus towards the Pacific because not just the Americans and
Speaker 1: our focus he was in the war with Japan. But
Speaker 1: of course Australia got bombed by literally subs into Sydney
Speaker 1: Harbor literally And to this day, if you've ever wondered
Speaker 1: why a person who lives in Queensland or a person
Speaker 1: who lives in the northern territory, doesn't quite trust the
Speaker 1: rest of the country because in World War II we
Speaker 1: drew a line. It was called the Brisbane Line. Put simply,
Speaker 1: if Japan invaded, we're buggering off back to this point.
Speaker 1: So unsurprisingly there is a bit of history. John Curtin
Speaker 1: is a substantial and amazing Australian Prime minister, of course
Speaker 1: labored with his bootstraps, but regardless of that political identity.
Speaker 1: So in the same way that he's trying to, you know,
Speaker 1: wear tracksuits like John Howard, and he's trying to pretend
Speaker 1: that he loves a boozer like Bob Hawk, and he's
Speaker 1: trying to pretend he's reforming the economy like poor Keating.
Speaker 1: He now is trying to associate himself in terms of
Speaker 1: international relations the same as John Curtin. But John Curtin
Speaker 1: was making his decisions in the middle of a freaking
Speaker 1: World war, when our own country was physically under assault,
Speaker 1: and he decided in this speech to say, among other things,
Speaker 1: that he set it out the pillars of the Australian
Speaker 1: way Albanez. He made it clear that this approach includes
Speaker 1: support for robust multilateralism, that means being up the backside
Speaker 1: of China while still trying to be in the pocket
Speaker 1: of the United States. Adherence to rules based order, which
Speaker 1: means things like the International Criminal Court, which is why
Speaker 1: you go after the Prime Minister of Israel should he
Speaker 1: end up before such a court. Unlikely, of course. Yet, however,
Speaker 1: rules based order doesn't seem to affect the Chinese version
Speaker 1: of things. Remember, the choice the curtain made was not
Speaker 1: between Japan and the UK. It was between the UK
Speaker 1: and the US about the principal defense of Australia. But
Speaker 1: we roll on here support for small and middle powers
Speaker 1: and a rejection of the great power peace as the
Speaker 1: basis of stability in the Indo Pacific. While this sends
Speaker 1: a message to Beijing, it will also reverberate Gordonly in Washington.
Speaker 1: The risk is that Albanezy will be seen as leaning
Speaker 1: into the differences between Labor and the Trump administration to
Speaker 1: win a domestic political dividend. That's the only game he
Speaker 1: cares about. It is the only game he cares about,
Speaker 1: because his bet is that we will never get into
Speaker 1: a situation where we need to be defended militarily, that
Speaker 1: we will never be in a situation when we would
Speaker 1: have to demand that the citizens of Australia, as we
Speaker 1: have in previous wars, would be forced to go and
Speaker 1: fight to defend Australia. His view is that if we technically,
Speaker 1: on paper, yes, with an awful lot of money, stay
Speaker 1: on the US side of things, but we remain the
Speaker 1: handsome little boy by never calling out the difficulties of China,
Speaker 1: then he gets to sit pretty. This is the Goldilock's position,
Speaker 1: and it may well be the the Goldilocke's political position
Speaker 1: that gets him reelected this time, next time, next time,
Speaker 1: next time, next time, next time. But you and I
Speaker 1: know that if and when it was ever the time
Speaker 1: for the country to be defended, it's too late to
Speaker 1: go and buy the missiles, to build the boats, or
Speaker 1: to have as many people on the front lines as possible.
Speaker 1: And again, the curtain choice, which I was I could
Speaker 1: not believe I was watching television today. I see because
Speaker 1: it was all about the Australian way is the Curtain way,
Speaker 1: and the curtain way of backing Australia and World War Two. Again,
Speaker 1: I do not profess to be a history major, but
Speaker 1: I do know the difference between a pivot between the
Speaker 1: English as the major forces, among others, but leading the
Speaker 1: forces against the Nazis and the Americans having to deal
Speaker 1: with the imperial Japanese. This is Year's seven history stuff.
Speaker 1: But because the assumption no one cares, Australia is not
Speaker 1: worth defending, all those people are just banging on about
Speaker 1: China are the people who don't understand the difference between
Speaker 1: and I love this concept. Don't understand the difference between
Speaker 1: the residents in Australia of Chinese extraction and the CCP
Speaker 1: garbage garbage. In the same way that Russians are not
Speaker 1: Vladimir Putins. These people are not President Zy, Australians are
Speaker 1: not Anthony Albineasy. You get the point. The citizens I
Speaker 1: never talk about with this stuff. Oh but you've always
Speaker 1: got to read the asterisk. If you don't read the asterisk,
Speaker 1: then somehow you're part of the problem. All four, I repeat,
Speaker 1: domestic political dividend, no surprise. All right, let's talk about
Speaker 1: some economic news, because there's a bit of it around
Speaker 1: this week. In fact, the big four banks are saying
Speaker 1: to the Reserve Bank, who is having to get another meeting,
Speaker 1: this time on Tuesday, cut the rate and I'm all
Speaker 1: good with this bring it on as a person who,
Speaker 1: like many, is trying to pay off a house, and
Speaker 1: like many, gets squeezed by this stuff because you do right.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what type of house you're trying to
Speaker 1: pay off. It's been a crazy few years. I don't
Speaker 1: care what the political ups and downs of it is.
Speaker 1: I just think that the economy needs some of the
Speaker 1: relief here that comes from people being able to hold
Speaker 1: onto some of their own money and banks having a
Speaker 1: back off a bit. An z Ed and west on
Speaker 1: Wednesday join the Commonwealth Bank, the National Australia Bank and
Speaker 1: Westpac in expecting the Reserve Bank Governor to announce a
Speaker 1: quarter a percent quarter percent cut to the rates on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: following the Bank's two day monetary policy meeting. It would
Speaker 1: take the cashreat to three point six percent, lowest level
Speaker 1: since mid twenty twenty three. Good. It would also follow
Speaker 1: its quarter percent cut in May and February, meaning somebody
Speaker 1: on a six hundred thousand dollar mortgage will have had
Speaker 1: three cuts and their payments will have been reduced by
Speaker 1: three hundred dollars a month. Good meantime on the stock
Speaker 1: market now, I don't want to freak anyone out here
Speaker 1: and again I'm just repeating the stuff that we read
Speaker 1: in all of the different sources here, and if it
Speaker 1: gets a little closer, we'll talk to Ross Greenwood. But
Speaker 1: another reason why you should watch Business Now four point
Speaker 1: thirty every single afternoon before Chris Kenny here on Sky News,
Speaker 1: that's four thirty East. Some suggestion that the ASX is
Speaker 1: currently overvalued and buckle up for a reality check. Now,
Speaker 1: nobody's allowed to say what that truly means. But what
Speaker 1: it means is if we keep having record day, record day,
Speaker 1: near to record day, record day, record day, near record day,
Speaker 1: where stocks are the highest that they've ever been, then
Speaker 1: perhaps that is not where this person thinks the true
Speaker 1: value of the Australian stock market should be. But simply,
Speaker 1: as they say, seek a doctor when it comes to
Speaker 1: your own medical advice, well talk to your financial panther
Speaker 1: or your accounted or somebody else because something's interesting. But
Speaker 1: of course, whatever happens, of course, only if it goes down,
Speaker 1: it's Trump's file. If it goes up, oh it's definitely
Speaker 1: not Trump, right, nothing to see there. Now a couple
Speaker 1: of people that many of us either grew up with
Speaker 1: or were canadam as contemporaries have passed away this weekend
Speaker 1: and I thought it important to recognize their contribution to
Speaker 1: Australian culture. Peter Russell Clarke, of course, was a very
Speaker 1: famous television chef. Julian McMahon was the son of a
Speaker 1: Prime minister who went on to become a not just
Speaker 1: famous actor in this country, internationally famous as well. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about Peter Russell Clark first. For those that, like yourself,
Speaker 1: were kids in the nineteen eighties, just before the news,
Speaker 1: there was this little five minute show and it was
Speaker 1: a five minute show that was part cooking show, part
Speaker 1: how Goods Australia, hosted by a bloke who made it
Speaker 1: completely acceptable to have a beard on television, Peter Russell Clark.
Speaker 1: The show this one. Come man Gettett, Come man gettet
Speaker 1: with Peter Russell the Park in the City or the Outbacks,
Speaker 1: Australia's raids. Come man Gettett, Come man gettet. Good food,
Speaker 1: you love two mes, Come man geett, Come man Gettett.
Speaker 1: There's people who can get so good, so good. Anyone
Speaker 1: who remembers this, and certainly is an awful lot of
Speaker 1: people who went and went looking for it on YouTube
Speaker 1: this weekend. This show is this lovely little reminder about
Speaker 1: a certain type of Australia, a certain type of Australia
Speaker 1: where this bloke you never quite knew where he came from,
Speaker 1: was out and about laughing with people who like the
Speaker 1: Robert de Castella of course, a legend of the Olympic
Speaker 1: and Commonwealth Games. On top of that, there was the
Speaker 1: cooking that took place, but then there was sort of
Speaker 1: food and lifestyle chat. But he was just this guy
Speaker 1: who just felt super Australian, and in the late seventies
Speaker 1: but principally eighties and kind of into the nineties, he
Speaker 1: was a familiar, regular everywhere presence on Australian TV with
Speaker 1: Peter Gray. Gray and a lot of people got very
Speaker 1: excited about the Giday because it was constantly there and
Speaker 1: as he said in multiple interviews, I just thought we
Speaker 1: said Gadey, but it became his thing. And I know,
Speaker 1: gidhe is not something that we say on TV that often.
Speaker 1: But frankly, in many ways because the TV shows like that,
Speaker 1: It's why I'll say it more often, because I just
Speaker 1: think it's what you say on Telly, right, But I
Speaker 1: know it's not what people do on TV anymore. Well,
Speaker 1: I like the Australia where people like Peter Russell Clark
Speaker 1: were front and center. Now again I said about this show.
Speaker 1: What I found cool about his show was that, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I was about cooking and sometimes a bit fancy cooking
Speaker 1: for the nineteen eighties. I know there was some tut
Speaker 1: tutting in our house about how fancy things were. But
Speaker 1: he was a bloke who understood that gap between the
Speaker 1: World War II parents and the baby Boomer kids, who
Speaker 1: of course ended up being the parents too, my generation
Speaker 1: Generation X.
Speaker 10: When I was a boy, people belted beef into them
Speaker 10: by the bucket lads. They'd be chomping in the legs
Speaker 10: of lamb.
Speaker 1: They'd be eating steaks that big.
Speaker 10: But not today, they're concerned about the fatty issue.
Speaker 1: More TV, more pieces to cameral of that place, walking
Speaker 1: past all that meat. Bit of Butcher's work. I loved it.
Speaker 1: He was a regular on TV talk shows. And remember
Speaker 1: in Australia, way back when we used to have TV shows,
Speaker 1: like multiple TV shows that were on all about the
Speaker 1: same time in the middle of the day, let alone
Speaker 1: the ones that were at night, let alone the late
Speaker 1: night ones. This was of course the one on Channel
Speaker 1: seven I think for a memory, which was when Burt
Speaker 1: Newton was there for a little while. And you can
Speaker 1: go and find some of his great appearances, including this
Speaker 1: very funny one he did on Community TV Channel thirty
Speaker 1: one where he's sort of talking old school and the
Speaker 1: young presenters not quite picking up some of what he's saying,
Speaker 1: which I really liked. On top of that, he clearly,
Speaker 1: because he was such an effective television talent, was a
Speaker 1: good spokesperson. The bloke could flog some product, Now, how's
Speaker 1: this my basic food groups, he had them more. He
Speaker 1: literally represented cheese, butter and eggs, all at different times
Speaker 1: in his career. But there is one thing that to
Speaker 1: this day people of a certain age, regardless of what
Speaker 1: age you were, but if you were around when this
Speaker 1: bloke was on the telly, you know exactly what this
Speaker 1: question is and you're probably about to say it back
Speaker 1: to me here I got this, where's the cheese? Right?
Speaker 10: Australian SE's of course, because I reckon it's even better
Speaker 10: than the important stud Now where's the cheese? And not
Speaker 10: just Australian Chad that Ozzy Swiss Puzzy eat him and
Speaker 10: Gooda and there's even a nosy Mozarella mucharella.
Speaker 1: I love it. Where's the cheese? I just loved it?
Speaker 1: So cool? So this is all my childhood. You know,
Speaker 1: we all complain about how often kids spends screen time.
Speaker 1: Now mine was spent in front of what was back
Speaker 1: then a square and then the rectangle that is now
Speaker 1: sixteen by nine. He also made it completely acceptable for
Speaker 1: chest Here to be on television. I know some people
Speaker 1: send me an email every now and then, what about this?
Speaker 1: This was him? I think with don Lay. Look at this,
Speaker 1: just the full bag of fruit. He's got the hat
Speaker 1: on and no shirt. What a look? Can I do
Speaker 1: that for our time sometime soon? Who knows, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll be having a particularly good time if it is.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Peter Russell clarking, Yeah. He died eighty nine,
Speaker 1: his family putting out a statement that his pain is over,
Speaker 1: so presumably going through a period of illness. But thank
Speaker 1: you for many smiles and many things to just rattle
Speaker 1: around in gen X's heads and will forever meantime, As
Speaker 1: I said, Julian McMahon, far younger, at just fifty six,
Speaker 1: he died, or we learned of it over the weekend
Speaker 1: Julian McMahon was, of course the son of Billy McMahon,
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister. Brought a bit of class like sonya
Speaker 1: of course his mum to Hollywood. Once he started acting,
Speaker 1: he did so in shows here in Australia like Home
Speaker 1: and Away. Part of our tribute package that ran this
Speaker 1: weekend explained some of his other acting roles, particularly in
Speaker 1: the United States.
Speaker 11: He continued to shine on the small screen with roles
Speaker 11: in Charmed and Nip Tuck. His film career started in
Speaker 11: nineteen ninety two and saw him starring alongside Hollywood heavyweights.
Speaker 1: Honestly some very cool films, some great TV shows. And
Speaker 1: his wife put out the statement this is the statement
Speaker 1: upon the death of Julian McMahon at just fifty six.
Speaker 11: Beloved husband Julian McMahon died peacefully this week after a
Speaker 11: valiant effort to overcome cancer. Julian loved life, He loved
Speaker 11: his work, and he loved his fans. His deepest wish
Speaker 11: was to bring joy into as many lives as possible
Speaker 11: to I was.
Speaker 1: He legends sadly no longer with us. We are the
Speaker 1: better for their cultural commitment and efforts across the world.
Speaker 1: Quick break back with more lots of talk about, including
Speaker 1: a bold prediction for the week ahead and some of
Speaker 1: the response to the madness that's been taking place in
Speaker 1: Victoria and a very special woman from Western Australia before
Speaker 1: we had done. We're just getting started. I loved him,
Speaker 1: loved chest. Thank you to everyone who just sent me
Speaker 1: a text message. I just got about half a dozen minutes.
Speaker 1: Just go mate, do the chest here, come on, do
Speaker 1: it tonight. I didn't get that request though from Lee
Speaker 1: Hanson's joining us now, from Hobart, nor from Michael Kroger
Speaker 1: in Melbourne, so I don't want to upset them in
Speaker 1: any way, shape or form. But Peter Russell Clark just
Speaker 1: a great bit ofness super Australia. I love it, guys,
Speaker 1: love you to see you and of course you are
Speaker 1: in the warmest parts of the country, being Tasmania and
Speaker 1: Victoria tonight, in the depths of winning. Thank you for
Speaker 1: doing it all right, Michael, let's start with you. The
Speaker 1: garbage that took place this weekend, the garbage where you
Speaker 1: hear from the protesters are we amoonish all violence, But
Speaker 1: da da da da da da da da da we
Speaker 1: see justinterer allan a statement, but no urgency in terms
Speaker 1: of getting in front of a camera as best as
Speaker 1: we can see, radio and of view, nothing like that whatsoever.
Speaker 1: And of course there's the other situation about that the synagogue,
Speaker 1: of course, a person who's been charged, which does limit
Speaker 1: our ability to talk about it to a point. For
Speaker 1: your thoughts on yet another ridiculous weekend of well, what
Speaker 1: seems to be religious focused violence.
Speaker 3: Well, mate, Victoria is bankrupt and lawless. Alban Easy and
Speaker 3: Justindra Allen ever since October seven, have been condemning Anysemitism.
Speaker 3: No one seems to be listening to them. I mean
Speaker 3: every few Daysannie Burg Alberesi Alan whoever come out with
Speaker 3: these statements condemning antisemitism, condemning this condemning that no one
Speaker 3: listens to them at all. In fact, violence against the
Speaker 3: Jewish community is increasing in Victoria, as we saw from
Speaker 3: the despicable acts on the weekend. No one's listening to
Speaker 3: the labor government and they're not doing anything. And unfortunately
Speaker 3: Albanesi has given aid and comfort to a lot of
Speaker 3: these demonstrators by his performance and policies since October seven.
Speaker 3: I want to run through the list, but everyone knows
Speaker 3: what they are this is man who is a man
Speaker 3: and jincinra Allen as premier here who have not been
Speaker 3: sympathetic to Israel, not been sympathetic to the Jewish community.
Speaker 3: And what do we see. We see a restaurant trashed
Speaker 3: in Melbourne on Friday night and what one person was arrested.
Speaker 3: There were twenty people trashing a restaurant. One got arrested. No,
Speaker 3: Victoria's lawless, the labor government, no one respects on this
Speaker 3: issue and unfortunately the Jewish community un safe in Victoria.
Speaker 3: And shame on Labor because that's their fault. Basically Lee.
Speaker 1: It also speaks to I mean, the reality is that
Speaker 1: with the world of CCTV and the world of how
Speaker 1: quickly we know when anything happens. Here's one hundred camera phones,
Speaker 1: here's the view from across the road. We know instantly
Speaker 1: when people want to go all in on trying to
Speaker 1: find something out. They go in pretty quickly and we
Speaker 1: start to see things publicly. Again, this is when you
Speaker 1: are the leader of a state. Look at say the
Speaker 1: New South Wales premier Chris Mins. Remember when he got
Speaker 1: up early in the morning to go to the fire
Speaker 1: bombing of a childcare center. I don't know what's going
Speaker 1: on in just Cintera Allen's life, but she needs to
Speaker 1: focus and start to be as quick about this as
Speaker 1: she would be on other types of motivated violence.
Speaker 12: Correct, I'm not seeing any leadership in this at all.
Speaker 12: And you've got to ask the question why why is
Speaker 12: this hate speech? And let's be honest, terroristic acts happening
Speaker 12: and allow it to be happened. Why isn't our government
Speaker 12: standing up and putting the foot down and holding them
Speaker 12: account and enough is enough, It's not strong enough, it's
Speaker 12: not good enough. I feel for the Jewish community, I
Speaker 12: feel for everybody else who is going through this and
Speaker 12: their hands are tired as well. We need leadership, we
Speaker 12: need strong government, and we need zero tolerance on this
Speaker 12: full stop. What message is this sending to our Jewish
Speaker 12: communities and internationally as well? Where are our leaders? Why
Speaker 12: can't they lead? Why can't they step up? And the
Speaker 12: question I keep asking is is it a vote? Is
Speaker 12: it to purely gain the votes? Where's their backbone?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if we've got to speak cruelly about
Speaker 1: politics here, we know what the failures were of the
Speaker 1: federal government going to the last election. We know what
Speaker 1: the result was out of the last election. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, Michael, do they assume that that's just the
Speaker 1: way to hold on and that worked in Victoria from
Speaker 1: the FED. So let's do it at the state level.
Speaker 1: Just let the usual suspects blow up about it on
Speaker 1: TV and just roll through.
Speaker 3: Well, look, the terrible reality of this is that there's
Speaker 3: only one hundred thousand Jewish voters in Australia. There's eight
Speaker 3: hundred thousand Muslim voters, and as we know, Tony Burke
Speaker 3: and Chris Bowen, etc. Jason Claire are hostage to Muslim voters,
Speaker 3: the overall majority of who make a great contribution to
Speaker 3: this country. But the few extremists and neo Nazis amongst
Speaker 3: them are Jewish hating Australian citizens apparently, who perpetuate these
Speaker 3: violent acts against the Jewish community. Labor have been unable
Speaker 3: to rain these people in and stronger action needs to
Speaker 3: be taken. These demonstrations. I mean all in favor of
Speaker 3: free speech and demonstrations are part of Western democracy, but
Speaker 3: there are so much hatreds spewing out of these demonstrations
Speaker 3: in Victoria. I don't believe they're entirely peaceful. The signs
Speaker 3: that may be the public statements of the organizers, mate,
Speaker 3: but we've seen flags and signs and comments and behavior
Speaker 3: which might lead one to believe that there was a
Speaker 3: lot of Jewish hatreds viewing out of these demonstrations. And
Speaker 3: we saw that on Friday night. We saw it the
Speaker 3: synagogue the other night. This disgusting behavior has happened under
Speaker 3: the watch of just Cinra Allen and Albanisi, and they've
Speaker 3: been unable or unwilling to do something about it, mate,
Speaker 3: And it's a disgrace. And whatever they say of Albanisi,
Speaker 3: he will be remembered as the prime minister who, on
Speaker 3: his watch this happened in this great country.
Speaker 1: All right, Now, my history teacher back from the other
Speaker 1: days of high school, mister Yallaco, who does watch the show.
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for him to correct me, But it was
Speaker 1: Peter who jumped in and corrected me. To add to
Speaker 1: everything else I was saying about John Curtain, World War Two,
Speaker 1: Japanese Americans don't forget about broom in Western Australia, as
Speaker 1: well as Darwin of course, the incidents in Sydney and
Speaker 1: that Brisbane line. I get why Queensland is feel the
Speaker 1: way they do around the rest of the country. All
Speaker 1: right at times. Now let's talk here about the Prime
Speaker 1: minister making this speech where again he's hoping that because
Speaker 1: it says John Curtin on the lectern and somehow he
Speaker 1: will be considered to be the same. But again, the
Speaker 1: choices of John Curtin will not the choices between the
Speaker 1: United States and China. All of the military build up
Speaker 1: is because of China, because of the potential adversary of China.
Speaker 1: The United States is not the one that, among other things,
Speaker 1: remember all of the cyber crimes of trying to get
Speaker 1: things like the blueprints to our Asio buildings, let alone
Speaker 1: everything else. But he's being made out here that oh,
Speaker 1: there's this, there's this Goalilock's position, which is, if I
Speaker 1: don't call China out and China can keep doing whatever
Speaker 1: it wants, but we send some money to America, then
Speaker 1: I'm in the sweet spot of where Australia wants us
Speaker 1: to be. On top of that, of course, is the
Speaker 1: tariff stuff. It kicks in in just a couple of
Speaker 1: days time, and he's going, oh, I can't do much
Speaker 1: about it. What do you think, where's.
Speaker 12: Our prime minister? You know, we call to our Prime
Speaker 12: minister to lead this country, not think of himself, but
Speaker 12: actually step up and ensure that our country is safe
Speaker 12: and out that our alliances are strong. And he is
Speaker 12: simply failing and unable to do this. So my question
Speaker 12: is if we want somebody who is actually a strong,
Speaker 12: capable and competent leader could actually work with the United
Speaker 12: States and build strong relationships and create a long viable plan.
Speaker 12: I actually know a female politician that's more than happy
Speaker 12: to make that, Paul. I think her name starts with Pauline.
Speaker 12: So I challenge, let's put it out there.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, and maybe that's hard, sooner rather than later,
Speaker 1: hopefully three years time, get a little bit of assistance
Speaker 1: from a very close family supporter, particularly in the state
Speaker 1: of Tasmania. We love your leg and the run that
Speaker 1: you made at this one of the federal election was
Speaker 1: very impressive. All right, Michael, I just want to show
Speaker 1: again part of what he had to say today before
Speaker 1: we move on to another key topic.
Speaker 6: Have looked Curtin's famous statement that Australia looked to America
Speaker 6: was much more than the idea of trading one strategic
Speaker 6: guarranteur for another or swapping an alliance with the old
Speaker 6: world for one with the new It was a recognition
Speaker 6: that Australia's pate would be decided in our region.
Speaker 1: All right, let's turn again to Victorian politics here, Michael,
Speaker 1: where it seems that there's probably going to be a
Speaker 1: treaty process which is going to be put in place
Speaker 1: before the next Victorian election. Now, I went through in
Speaker 1: chapter and verse through the week, and jeez, didn't I
Speaker 1: get the hate mail for it reading both parts of
Speaker 1: the report, one being the truth telling bit that seemed
Speaker 1: to annoy a few people. But I'm going to tell
Speaker 1: you what's in it, right. But then there's the other,
Speaker 1: which is a list of claims which, of course or
Speaker 1: come after the emotional impact of the truth telling bit.
Speaker 1: You have a premier who has openly said that everything's
Speaker 1: on the table and basically is pushed back, has never
Speaker 1: pushed back against any suggestion which, among other things, are
Speaker 1: Indigenous people pay no taxes, right, pay no taxes? So
Speaker 1: there would literally be two classes of peoples. Do you
Speaker 1: think that the treaty with Indigenous Victorians will be signed
Speaker 1: by Allan before the election?
Speaker 3: I do, for the cynical reason, mate, that she's got
Speaker 3: no more money to spend. She's bankrupted Victoria, so there
Speaker 3: are no project when you go to the election, there
Speaker 3: no projects she can spend any money on. No no
Speaker 3: bridges and roads and train lines to nowhere to the sky.
Speaker 3: That's all gone. No hospitals, no new schools, whatever. Right,
Speaker 3: she's got no money to spend. She's got to come
Speaker 3: up with some agenda. She's got to come up with
Speaker 3: some agenda. And this is, you know, the agenda. This
Speaker 3: is going to be part of her election agenda. Because
Speaker 3: if you can't spend money as a labor leader, you
Speaker 3: haven't got much else. Now, this is going to be
Speaker 3: extremely divisive. If we've just been through this debate, haven't
Speaker 3: we dividing Australians by race forever privileges for one race
Speaker 3: over the other. This is not the Australian way. This
Speaker 3: is what Australians overwhelmingly rejected. She would be hoping that
Speaker 3: you can just get this is through the parliament. How
Speaker 3: do people object? It's all covered in sweetness and light
Speaker 3: and reparations, etc. I see the IPA. So the reparations
Speaker 3: could be fifty billion dollars or more. Victoria's bankrupt as
Speaker 3: it is, so this again is a road to permanent
Speaker 3: vision and the Labor Party should not be part of it.
Speaker 3: She should accept the view of the Australian public and
Speaker 3: the fifty four percent of Victorians who also voted against
Speaker 3: the voice made Lee.
Speaker 1: I could give you a free kick on the Victorian government,
Speaker 1: but I want to talk about the potential Tasmanian government
Speaker 1: because there's an election going on right now, and I've
Speaker 1: got to say I'm pretty hard on the Labor Party
Speaker 1: for the way they have brought it on. The obvious
Speaker 1: failures of the Liberal government are there to be seen.
Speaker 1: But in my view, it's pretty obvious when Labour, Greens
Speaker 1: and a whole bunch of lefties get together in order
Speaker 1: to pull on an election and then pretend, oh, nothing
Speaker 1: to see, nothing to see here, and there many scaring away.
Speaker 1: But there are two different polls that tell us one
Speaker 1: of the two major parties is in front, but still
Speaker 1: with no path towards a majority. There's no Lamby running around,
Speaker 1: so you're not going to have people who buy their
Speaker 1: own admission. When on the seven thirty one said we
Speaker 1: don't have any policies, we just vote on values, Okay,
Speaker 1: find by me. So what the hell is happening in
Speaker 1: this election.
Speaker 12: Lead, good question. We're all trying to work it out ourselves.
Speaker 12: Do you know the shame is we are in this position. Yes,
Speaker 12: it was a dirty under tactic stand from Labor and
Speaker 12: the minority, but the reality is Liberal have not stepped
Speaker 12: up and they've also contributed to why we're in this situation.
Speaker 12: Fourteen months since the last state election and here we
Speaker 12: are again we cannot afford it. But then we've got
Speaker 12: two major parties that the people are telling me they
Speaker 12: can't distinguish the difference between the two. There is absolutely
Speaker 12: no point of difference and all it is is vote
Speaker 12: buying with false promises. Here we are going broke in Tasmania,
Speaker 12: no budget with a billion dollar stadium spend, but Liberal
Speaker 12: and Labor throwing out more promises which actually has no
Speaker 12: long term viable solution. So the unfortunate part, Paul, is
Speaker 12: you know, in my situation, I couldn't run in this
Speaker 12: state election because one nation's not yet registered in the state,
Speaker 12: which is something I'm currently working on. But by year
Speaker 12: I wish I now I look at them and see
Speaker 12: that there's no leadership in the state currently. I wish
Speaker 12: I had have raised my hand and stood as an
Speaker 12: independent under the One Nation. Banner actually tried to give
Speaker 12: some long term solution to the state which is desperately
Speaker 12: needed and we don't see it happening right now.
Speaker 1: Well again, I'd love you there tomorrow, but if it
Speaker 1: means more support, more infrastructure to make sure that when
Speaker 1: you do have a crack of it the next time,
Speaker 1: more success, more success to your Thank you, Lee, Thank you, Michael.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again into the future. All right,
Speaker 1: quick break back with more. Remember you can always seen
Speaker 1: me an email, love it or hate it wherever you
Speaker 1: want fire arm. Let's talk like normal people, Paul, Let's
Speaker 1: go news dot com dot AU. One a second. I
Speaker 1: want to introduce you to a special woman, a woman
Speaker 1: who has had a lot happen in her life but
Speaker 1: refuses refuses to play the victim card. Her name is
Speaker 1: Sue Gordon. She's from Western Australia. She's got a book
Speaker 1: about her life and she joins us now from Perth.
Speaker 1: Dr Gordon love you to meet you.
Speaker 13: How are you hello, Paul, I'm Sue. Excellent, fine, thank you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Sue. I appreciate it all right. So now
Speaker 1: you are an Indigenous woman who has had incredible success.
Speaker 1: You are the first to have headed a state department.
Speaker 1: You've been overseas, We've studied First Nations policies, You've been
Speaker 1: on plenty of government boards. But you've also got a
Speaker 1: book which has come out of recent weeks, which was
Speaker 1: about your life, and it talks a lot about the
Speaker 1: difficulties of the early years of your life. But again,
Speaker 1: in those difficult early years of your life and the
Speaker 1: relationship in and around your sister, why do you refuse
Speaker 1: to use the term victim as a way to describe
Speaker 1: a situation that plenty of others have used that term for.
Speaker 13: Well, Paul, I think if you remain a victim, you'll
Speaker 13: never move on in your life. So two years now
Speaker 13: since I decided I wasn't going to be a victim.
Speaker 13: I just needed to move on with my life and
Speaker 13: achieve whatever I could, but more importantly look after my children.
Speaker 1: And in terms of these what seem at times to
Speaker 1: be intractable difficult issues, because there's just the size and
Speaker 1: scope of issues in indigenous communities, but also the phalanx
Speaker 1: of people who represent or underrepresent, or hold back or help.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about this issue when you hear
Speaker 1: about things like treaties in Victoria, obviously the national vote
Speaker 1: of a couple of years ago, but also the specific
Speaker 1: issues that happen in Western Australia. Do you think that
Speaker 1: we can get to a place where the people who
Speaker 1: are trying to put together a system to better the
Speaker 1: kids of the future generations that they too will not
Speaker 1: fall into the victim mentality.
Speaker 13: Well, it is up to actually individual people and parents.
Speaker 13: Instead of becoming having a pack mentality, people should be
Speaker 13: making their own mind up about what they want to
Speaker 13: do in their life or what they want for their children.
Speaker 13: I haven't read about the treaty proposals and everything in Victoria,
Speaker 13: so I can't really comment on that. But I'm not
Speaker 13: one for a divided name. We've seen that around the world.
Speaker 13: Nations get divided. And one of your topics earlier was
Speaker 13: about the problem with our Jewish community here in Australia,
Speaker 13: and there's division that's going on in Australia there. But
Speaker 13: in Aboriginal Australia. I worked in the Pilborough, I've worked
Speaker 13: in the territory and I've seen exemptarly Aboriginal people making
Speaker 13: their mark, getting on with their life, but not becoming
Speaker 13: one with a pac mentality. They're individual people and they've
Speaker 13: chosen to make their mark as an individual.
Speaker 1: And so what I love too is that at your
Speaker 1: book launch it again, we'll tell everyone how they can
Speaker 1: get to put it all out on our socials because
Speaker 1: I want people to read this incredible story about yourself.
Speaker 1: But you've had everyone from the top of the Western
Speaker 1: Australia Police, you had people from the Supreme Court, you
Speaker 1: had former premiers, senators as well as most importantly the grandchildren.
Speaker 1: That's the most important brace that around you. But when
Speaker 1: you look at you see a room like this again,
Speaker 1: how your life started and where your life is taking you,
Speaker 1: because there's plenty of life for us all to live.
Speaker 1: Yet what did you feel like when you looked out
Speaker 1: across that room and you wentjez, all those people are
Speaker 1: here to back me in and my little story.
Speaker 13: Well, having been a member of the judiciary, there was
Speaker 13: a lot of the judiciary there and the legal fraternity
Speaker 13: who I know, the former Premier Peter Dowding, who helped
Speaker 13: launch the book. I've known Peter since the seventies, so
Speaker 13: that's a long term relationship. And senior police officers who
Speaker 13: were there. I've worked with a lot of police officers
Speaker 13: before they became senior police officers.
Speaker 1: And I think this is.
Speaker 13: A problem that a lot of people have and they say, oh, well,
Speaker 13: why are you working with the police, And I said, well, look,
Speaker 13: if you don't work with other agencies, what's the point.
Speaker 13: No one can achieve anything on their own. There are
Speaker 13: other people in the community. But the night of the
Speaker 13: launch of the book was a special night because my
Speaker 13: two sons were instrumental as well in inviting people off
Speaker 13: their email lists, so it was really a wonderful night.
Speaker 1: Well, Sue, I've got to say, it's pretty impressive, right,
Speaker 1: all of the things that we've just mentioned, and we
Speaker 1: haven't even got to the military service. And I know
Speaker 1: how proud you've been about that. The go get a
Speaker 1: nature of what you are. It's the type of person
Speaker 1: that I just love firing up about and love celebrating.
Speaker 1: And it does feel sometimes maybe we don't have the
Speaker 1: same spirit that we used to. But why is it
Speaker 1: important to always have a crack, to find a new way,
Speaker 1: to have a gut.
Speaker 13: It's important because if you get asked to do a
Speaker 13: specific thing, say recently, I've finished up after several years
Speaker 13: as the chair of Outback stores across the Northern Australia,
Speaker 13: and I was asked by the former Senator Nigel Scullion
Speaker 13: to do that and I took it on.
Speaker 1: I took it on with a vengeance.
Speaker 13: Because I said I would visit all the stores in
Speaker 13: the first year, and that was more than thirty stores,
Speaker 13: I think a bit off more than I can chew.
Speaker 13: But I went to as many as I could because
Speaker 13: if you don't see what you're dealing with, how can
Speaker 13: you talk about it? And so every time I've been
Speaker 13: asked to do something, be it the Gordon inquiry or
Speaker 13: another inquiry, or working in the territory for John Howard,
Speaker 13: I go in boots and all because I think that
Speaker 13: you've got to do a job that someone's asked you
Speaker 13: to do. They've got trust in you, they've got faith
Speaker 13: in you, and so you do the best you can.
Speaker 1: All right, everyone, I want you to buy the book.
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Speaker 1: to talk to you well A nice lady. All right,
Speaker 1: quick break back with more here more from Sue Gordon
Speaker 1: by reading the book more a sec. I've got a
Speaker 1: bit more to say, including a big day for rock
Speaker 1: and roll. What a moment for those of us who
Speaker 1: love rock and roll, particularly the hard form of rock
Speaker 1: and roll. I think it was described today, which of
Speaker 1: course was Ozzy Osbourne his band Black Sabbath, final performance
Speaker 1: of both the band and Ozzie has Parkinson's He just
Speaker 1: had a performance in the UK in front of forty
Speaker 1: thousand people at aston Villa Stadium. Obviously due to his
Speaker 1: own health, he wasn't able to leave the chair. But
Speaker 1: the chair, of course was the throne of the king
Speaker 1: of rock and roll and his music was absolutely spectacular.
Speaker 1: It will long live most of us, but certainly to
Speaker 1: a man who changed the music world forever. A final
Speaker 1: performance worth remembering that of Ozzy Osbourne. He's a Royal
Speaker 1: report