WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 6 July 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:06.880 From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Hello, 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:09.200 Thank you Karen, thank you geting happy Sunday wherever you 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:11.119 happen to be. You've got a lot to get to tonight, 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:13.640 including my thoughts on the madness in Melbourne in the 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:17.200 past couple of days, giving us their bold predictions for 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:18.960 the week, and responding to some of the news. It's 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:22.919 around one other than Lee Hanson and Michael Kroger, both 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:25.160 here for a big chat and if like me, you're 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:27.800 like your rock and roll and at times nice and hard. 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:31.960 Izz the Osborne last time on stage today, last time 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:34.840 We're Black Sabbath and some notable people who passed away 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:37.240 who Austratings would know in a moment or two time 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:40.080 before I get to again the madness in Melbourne. What 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:44.960 about this story this weekend about the zoo or the worker. 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:46.640 We don't know if it's a zoo keeper, but a 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:49.840 Queensley woman who's had our arm ripped off by a lion. 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:54.560 This was at a zoo not too far from to Woomba. 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.160 This is the media and how they covered it today. 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:01.600 Shocking incident at the Queensland Zoo. 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:04.959 A woman has lost an arm after she was mauled 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:05.760 by a line. 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:08.760 A lion has mauled a woman at a Queensland zoo. 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:11.800 The woman was inside the animal's enclosure while it was 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:14.240 being cleaned when the big cat pounced. 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:18.199 Now, thankfully, well I when they say she's okay, okay, 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:21.640 she got an arm torn off right? Exactly how and 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:23.919 when that detail comes out in the next little while. 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:26.720 But the coverage has been amazing to have a look 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:29.000 at today. Well done to the quary of Male of 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:31.000 having all of the latest information on this giving the 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:35.080 news startches to Queensland, but everyone around the country. But 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:37.319 I'll tell you what, what an extraordinary situation of what 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:39.679 actually has taken place yet now again we don't have 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.200 a huge amount of information, but here in part is 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:44.320 what happened at Channel nine. I lead the story the 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:46.360 show with this tonight because frankly it's the only one 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:47.960 people we're talking about this weekend. 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.200 The zoo revealing in a statement a much loved member 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:55.120 of our family was watching keepers working in the carnival 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:59.600 precinct when inexplicably, one animal grabbed her by one arm 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:03.280 and caused severe damage. At no stage did this animal 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:05.640 leave its enclosure, and there was no risk at all 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:08.560 to staff all members of the public. The victim is 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:13.040 described as having twenty years of experience entering the carnivore enclosure, 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:18.000 well versed in safety protocols around potentially dangerous animals. 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.880 You know, again, I don't know what took place here. 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.120 I don't know whether this was as normal and something 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:26.160 crazy has happened. This is why I'm always fearful, really 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:28.320 always fearful. And I know we met plenty people around 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:31.760 the country doing outtown who are with big animals, big 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:35.200 animals in zoos like this, and they seem to be 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.720 imperfect sync with them. But of course it is an animal, 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:41.079 a wild animal, even if to some degree it ain't 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:42.519 so well because it may all have spent much of 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:45.400 its life into captivity. But you get the point. This 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:48.520 was the reaction from the line protection director. 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:53.120 In terms of something that's common, this is quite rare. 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:55.680 I think we can kind of, you know, keep these 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:57.920 guys captive. There's always going to be that spark of 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:02.480 a wild animal, and I think today's pretty much testament 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:04.880 to that. They're still unpredictable. 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:08.919 Unfortunately, and again this could have been much worse. Why 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:12.880 wasn't it, Well, that's because of course, she was saved. 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:18.239 Wheeled away on a stretcher. A zoo worker in her fifties, 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:22.200 a victim of a big cat bite. Nine News understands 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.880 she was saved by the quick actions of an employee 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:27.680 who used a belt to tie a tornaquet. 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:32.120 My goodness, that is extraordinary. You know those stories that 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:34.480 are going to go around the world, This one is 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:38.080 already going around the world. Why Wild Animals Australia, Queensland. 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.640 Where we know more, you'll know more. Otherwise, keep an 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:43.600 eye on the Skyies website skonies dot com dot Au 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:46.040 and of course to get full access to four live 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:47.680 channels of what we do, make sure that you get 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:49.600 the sky News app and sign up there as well 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:51.400 for just five bucks a month. Do it all at 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.400 Skyies dot com dot Au. Now to the madness in 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:58.240 Melbourne this weekend, take your pick now, as you know, 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:01.000 there is somebody who is currently before or court after 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:04.440 being accused of spraying some sort of accelerant upon the 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:08.440 doors of a synagogue that had people inside it. That 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:12.680 fire was then lit and again this was an extraordinary 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:17.599 scenario that thankfully did not become what many would have feared. 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.120 As I say, somebody is before the court. So there's 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:21.719 not a lot more that can be said about the 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.440 specific incident apart from all of the obvious. But it 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.520 wasn't the only stupid thing that happened when it came 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.520 to a frankly dark and nasty thing that had happened 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:32.120 in Melbourne this weekend in relation to parts of the 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:36.279 Jewish community. Now, I don't know why people think that 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.920 they are morally superior to others, which means they can 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:42.919 just go and disrupt other people's lives. That is exactly 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:45.160 what took place when a whole bunch of people decided 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:50.360 to start storming the outside of a restaurant in Melbourne. 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:52.719 Wait till you hear one of the people who is 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:55.880 part of the regular protests that take place in their 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:58.640 reaction to all of this. But this is some of 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:02.479 the Jewish leaders, and there was responds to this crazy, wild, 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:09.080 unacceptable and frightening weekend towards Jewish people in Melbourne. A 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:14.440 synagogue firebomb, the second synagogue firebomb. Where is the government? 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:19.520 It's beyond belief and I just feel that it's an 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:20.520 Australian We do. 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:22.640 Not have to wait for somebody to be killed or 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:26.440 to be injured to take this threat and this growing 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:27.560 threat seriously. 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:31.000 We are talking about an attack on Melbournians, and on 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:36.880 Victorians and on Australians. This is not just an attack 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:40.320 upon Jews or the Jewish community. It is an attack 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:41.839 upon our way of life. 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:44.080 Now, no, Dad, I look forward to all of the 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:45.960 usual suspects and all of the usual parts of the 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.120 media telling us why none of this matters, nothing's connected 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.640 to anything else. Have a look the other way. There 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:55.560 is no broad based version of violence towards a particular 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:58.400 religious minority. Look the other way. It's all just made up. 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.200 Remember that was their attitude in the past. Asked, well again, 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.600 you have scenarios that police at this stage believe are 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:09.279 completely separate, which is the burning of the doors of 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.359 the synagogue, and then this disruption of dinner, which was 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.320 not just a couple of people hecking and carrying on. 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:16.080 They got right in there. It turned out to be 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:19.119 quite quite confronting for anyone who was there, and became 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:22.159 quite violent. Now, from all of those who claim to 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:24.600 be the betters amongst us, the leaders, you will notice 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:29.280 one person missing the Victorian Premier storm. Nothing, not a 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.680 word about what is happening in what she had previously 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:34.200 described as the world save a city. 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:40.080 Last night's us an attack on the synagogue in East 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:45.000 Melbourne is cowardly, is an act of violence and anti 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:49.039 Semitism and has no place in Australian society. 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.919 This was clearly a targeted fire and we will not 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:56.080 accept any acts of anti Semitism or hate based crime. 0:06:56.440 --> 0:07:05.159 Arson attacks, the chanting, calls for death, other attacks and graffiti. 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:10.400 None of it belonged to Australia and they were attacks 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:11.560 on Australia. 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:15.440 A heinous act, a horrific act, a criminal act, and 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:16.920 people will be held to account for it. 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:19.280 Eventually we're going to see an outcome that no one 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:23.640 wants to see, don't you like Tony Burke? And look again, 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:26.880 he spoke, Prime Minister spoke all the rest of it. 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:28.640 But you know when their heart's in it, right, you know, 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.840 when they truly consider something to be a moral or 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:35.920 national security outrage. Did you like how we were self 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:38.680 editing there about the calls for death, and of course 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.440 it's death. Death to the IDF is the most recent 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:43.760 calls that have been made, including on the streets of Australia. 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.560 But I don't know, we're just edit ourselves there because 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.800 you know, we want to seen to be everywhere, but 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:54.080 not all in because you know there'll be a problem. Well, 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:56.080 despite the fact that these were the events of the weekend, 0:07:56.280 --> 0:08:01.600 there were more protests. Now again this situation. One of 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:03.240 the joys of living this far away is that we 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:07.080 do not need to live everything at the pace of life. Yes, 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:09.120 sometimes we do, but the idea that this is the 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:12.960 way to spend a weekend afternoon in Melbourne just does 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.720 my head in. It truly does every now and then, 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.600 but every single week anyway. This was some of the 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:20.360 back and forth that happened in terms of some of 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:24.600 the protesters that were around over the weekend but haven't 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:28.440 listened to one of the apparent organizers of these protests 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.200 also being asked about the nonsense that happened when it 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:34.959 came to the restaurant. Now here's how it works. If 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:38.400 you truly are anti something, you say I am anti No. 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:43.880 If snowbuts have a listened, how yeah, but is what 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.720 you hear about five seconds into this comic. 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:53.360 We condemn any attack in any washer places, but all 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:55.360 saw we condemned the double standards. 0:08:55.559 --> 0:09:00.559 Mohammad Shurab has led peaceful anti genocide demonstrations in Melbourne months. 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:06.320 He regrets that things got physical. US was making no 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:10.520 apologies on behalf of the activists who targeted the Jewish restaurant. 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:14.840 Is not businesses or organized essens that aid and support 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:18.520 genocide are not welcome here. This business should be boycotted 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.360 and it should be as a financial target for us 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:22.000 as the movement. 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:27.520 Now, I put up, what are you talking about if 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.200 there is a direct link between what you order on 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.079 a Friday, Saturday or Sunday from a restaurant and war 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.920 zones on the other side of the world. Okay, but 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:39.680 in everything I saw, I didn't see any receipts. Is 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.800 it because of the government that they support or the 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:46.120 people that they are? Again, I see no receipts. Put 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:49.400 this stuff up. There is nothing that justifies what took 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:52.560 place this weekend. I just like, well, you know, we 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:56.880 are boring, but it just doesn't work for that. Now, 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:58.920 just sind around on one of the massive criticisms she's 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:01.080 gonna copy here is she might punch something out on 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:02.880 Twitter or put out a statement, get in front of 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:06.640 one of these. Now, look, unless there's some personal reason 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:08.440 why she was unable to and we may learn that 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:12.080 in the next twenty four hours. It again shows and 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:15.040 we have seen this when there is a situation the 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.840 government deems serious enough, it's all hands on deck, everyone everywhere, 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:22.200 all at once go. They clearly don't think that this 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:26.720 stuff is I don't know why, because we know if 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:28.679 it was any other faith, it was any other location, 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:32.480 we all know what the national conversation would be, what 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:35.360 the national response would be. More about this when we 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:38.480 have a chat with Michael Kroger and Lee Hanson in 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:41.920 a couple of minutes. You may well have noticed that 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.680 we have passed the fourth of July. We are now 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:47.400 the sixth of July in Australia. Son coming up on 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:51.360 the same day in the United States. Well, Donald Trump 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:56.080 is running fast towards his own self imposed deadline, and 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:59.120 that is going to be on the ninth of July, 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:02.240 and that is when a ten percent tariff is put 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:05.120 onto every single country that exports things into the United States. 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:09.560 Australia mostly affected by steel. Now, so I've said before, 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:12.600 this is not an insignificant thing for the Australian economy, 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:14.800 but it's also not going to be the end of 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:18.800 times because of all of the things that we export 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.080 to the United States. The number one of those is 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:24.520 steel and it equates for about a quarter of the 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.920 steel market. So again no one is pretending that it 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.920 is not significant. But the way this will be played 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:32.800 in the next few days that this is the reason 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:36.120 why your mortgages have been high for the past three years. 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:38.600 This is the reason why every time you go to 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:42.200 the shops it has been widely expensive for the past 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:45.320 few years. We all know that this government, in particular, 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:48.240 with its terrible economic record, I don't care what happened 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:51.960 to the election, with its terrible economic record at the 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.959 last election talking a game on cost of living when 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.800 the reality was things were getting worse, is now going 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:01.040 to use the cover of Trump to blame everything. A 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:03.079 perfect little example of that was some of the detail, 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:05.640 or the pretty obvious between the lines that was being 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:09.280 said by the Prime Minister at the Economic Future event 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:11.800 which took place on Friday. You saw both the speech 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:13.840 for the Prime Minister and a back and forth conversation 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:16.800 with around Andrew Colnell. The whole event done in conjunction 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:21.960 Sky News Australia and The Australian. Now basically he's turned 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:24.240 around and pretty much given up on any sort of 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:26.199 a change in the next few days. Now, remember there 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:29.040 is a deadline. Presumably when there is a deadline and 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.200 you are involved in the process of trying to avoid 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.080 what you don't want to happen by the deadline, you'd 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.320 be a little urgent. But of course, because he knows 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.600 the politics is if this thing goes in, doesn't really 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.559 hurt the Australian economy. It's an orange Man bad moment, 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:45.960 which makes him look even better and freshly elected, and 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:47.959 with Parliament coming back in the next couple of weeks, 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.280 this is perfect for what he wants. But in part, 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:53.679 this is what he said during those conversations on Friday. 0:12:54.960 --> 0:13:01.760 We are in a position where on July nine that 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.720 won't really have an impact on us, because that's about 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:10.040 other countries who have higher rates. We know that no 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:14.720 country has a better tariff if you like level than 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:20.160 ten percent. Now will continue to put our case we 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:21.079 as we do. 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:25.280 But he's a slippery one, right, and he's a very 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:30.600 successful slippery one, and certainly people like myself and probably 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:35.079 people like you are but not even stones in his 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:38.720 shoes as an irritation. But believe me, he thinks about 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:40.920 us a lot believe me, he talks about us a 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:44.720 lot because people tell me. Right. But one of the 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.440 questions in and around the effectiveness of Australia's ability to 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:51.000 have the ten percent tariff removed is, of course the 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:52.920 multiple times we have been this close to a meeting 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:56.000 and it all falls away for whatever different reason. We 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.240 also know that there was always at the heart of 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:02.320 things a controversial person who was sent to the United States. 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.000 Now the upside of this, it means that he can't 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.760 do all of the freely wheeling he would do at home. 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.959 Probably he'll end up as the Australian ambassador to the 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.200 United Nations, or they'll just extend his term for the 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:16.600 next four hundred years. Right. But again, one little line 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.680 from the Prime Minister that came out on Friday that 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:23.000 when I was watching I just you know what, I 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:24.920 was yelling at the telly because he said. 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:31.600 This when I went to the US. The connections that 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:38.480 Kevin rad has. As much as people might be have 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.680 had a view about Kevin over a period of time, 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:46.440 no one could doubt his capacity, his hard work, his 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:48.800 ability to work strongly. 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:52.200 Now when I was in the United States, Kevin regards 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:53.880 what you think of him he's doing an incredible job. 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:56.320 This is one of the lines that's coming out right. 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:00.000 The only problem is when he went to the Unit 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:04.480 States during the Trump administration, I continue exactly where he went. 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:09.880 He went to Seattle in Washington, where, of course they 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:16.440 signed a deal with Amazon more data centers for Australia yay. 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.760 And anyone who of course knows the difference between Washington, 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:22.479 d C, where the president is, and where this announcement 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:24.800 was being made, knows that it's about a how only 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:28.320 forty hour drive. It literally is the other side of 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.720 the country. It is basically as far away from Washington, 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:33.680 DC as you can be when you go to America. 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:38.640 So this idea that somehow, look when I was there before, 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:42.920 I've seen him, a brushed past him. Come on. But 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.320 it does bring us to a little more here where 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.320 we know the times that he's been to the White House, 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.680 of course, was with the previous president. Fine, they liked 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.800 each other, they were closer breaking news Scott Morrison and 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:58.800 Trump worked closer than he was with Biden. And you know, 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:00.960 it is what happens, right, two blokes they get along 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:02.480 and they don't get along. That's the way it works. 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.800 But there is a little thing called the John Curtain oration, 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:11.760 which wasn't a thing until Anthony Abernezi turned it into 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:14.800 a thing when he was stalking Bill Shorden for all 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.160 of those years that he was out of the game 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:19.520 and he was able to free well and have big 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:21.880 policy things and all covered as news because it was 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.800 a person that the media liked well. Now as the 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:28.120 reigning King and freshly reelected King of Australia, greatest prime 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:31.680 minister of all time, he gave another speech this weekend. 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:33.680 You may will have heard a little bit about it. Now, 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.240 anyone who knows the history knows that John Curtin is 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:39.760 one of one of the absolute most important prime ministers 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:44.680 country's ever had. Why because rather than sending Aussie troops 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.720 consistently over to Europe because that was the major focus 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.880 of the UK and World War Two, he took a 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:54.800 focus towards the Pacific because not just the Americans and 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.880 our focus he was in the war with Japan. But 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:03.080 of course Australia got bombed by literally subs into Sydney 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:06.119 Harbor literally And to this day, if you've ever wondered 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:08.720 why a person who lives in Queensland or a person 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:10.760 who lives in the northern territory, doesn't quite trust the 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.280 rest of the country because in World War II we 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:16.440 drew a line. It was called the Brisbane Line. Put simply, 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:20.520 if Japan invaded, we're buggering off back to this point. 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:23.639 So unsurprisingly there is a bit of history. John Curtin 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:27.600 is a substantial and amazing Australian Prime minister, of course 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:30.920 labored with his bootstraps, but regardless of that political identity. 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:34.280 So in the same way that he's trying to, you know, 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:37.000 wear tracksuits like John Howard, and he's trying to pretend 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.560 that he loves a boozer like Bob Hawk, and he's 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:43.040 trying to pretend he's reforming the economy like poor Keating. 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.720 He now is trying to associate himself in terms of 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:49.480 international relations the same as John Curtin. But John Curtin 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:51.720 was making his decisions in the middle of a freaking 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:56.920 World war, when our own country was physically under assault, 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:01.159 and he decided in this speech to say, among other things, 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:05.920 that he set it out the pillars of the Australian 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.240 way Albanez. He made it clear that this approach includes 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:13.600 support for robust multilateralism, that means being up the backside 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:16.680 of China while still trying to be in the pocket 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:21.160 of the United States. Adherence to rules based order, which 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.680 means things like the International Criminal Court, which is why 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.320 you go after the Prime Minister of Israel should he 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:31.040 end up before such a court. Unlikely, of course. Yet, however, 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:34.440 rules based order doesn't seem to affect the Chinese version 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:36.960 of things. Remember, the choice the curtain made was not 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:41.800 between Japan and the UK. It was between the UK 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.879 and the US about the principal defense of Australia. But 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:48.720 we roll on here support for small and middle powers 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:53.639 and a rejection of the great power peace as the 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.520 basis of stability in the Indo Pacific. While this sends 0:18:56.520 --> 0:19:01.240 a message to Beijing, it will also reverberate Gordonly in Washington. 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:03.840 The risk is that Albanezy will be seen as leaning 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:06.560 into the differences between Labor and the Trump administration to 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:12.000 win a domestic political dividend. That's the only game he 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:15.080 cares about. It is the only game he cares about, 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:19.800 because his bet is that we will never get into 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:23.359 a situation where we need to be defended militarily, that 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:26.920 we will never be in a situation when we would 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:31.080 have to demand that the citizens of Australia, as we 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:34.680 have in previous wars, would be forced to go and 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:43.439 fight to defend Australia. His view is that if we technically, 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:46.639 on paper, yes, with an awful lot of money, stay 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:49.600 on the US side of things, but we remain the 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:54.560 handsome little boy by never calling out the difficulties of China, 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:58.800 then he gets to sit pretty. This is the Goldilock's position, 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:01.600 and it may well be the the Goldilocke's political position 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:03.639 that gets him reelected this time, next time, next time, 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:06.000 next time, next time, next time. But you and I 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:09.560 know that if and when it was ever the time 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:13.520 for the country to be defended, it's too late to 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:17.240 go and buy the missiles, to build the boats, or 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:19.800 to have as many people on the front lines as possible. 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:26.040 And again, the curtain choice, which I was I could 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:28.240 not believe I was watching television today. I see because 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:31.280 it was all about the Australian way is the Curtain way, 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:34.040 and the curtain way of backing Australia and World War Two. Again, 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:36.040 I do not profess to be a history major, but 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:42.000 I do know the difference between a pivot between the 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:45.480 English as the major forces, among others, but leading the 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:49.200 forces against the Nazis and the Americans having to deal 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:54.640 with the imperial Japanese. This is Year's seven history stuff. 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:57.439 But because the assumption no one cares, Australia is not 0:20:57.440 --> 0:21:00.480 worth defending, all those people are just banging on about 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:03.719 China are the people who don't understand the difference between 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.400 and I love this concept. Don't understand the difference between 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:10.080 the residents in Australia of Chinese extraction and the CCP 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:15.280 garbage garbage. In the same way that Russians are not 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:19.080 Vladimir Putins. These people are not President Zy, Australians are 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:22.879 not Anthony Albineasy. You get the point. The citizens I 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:26.040 never talk about with this stuff. Oh but you've always 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:27.880 got to read the asterisk. If you don't read the asterisk, 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:30.560 then somehow you're part of the problem. All four, I repeat, 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:35.960 domestic political dividend, no surprise. All right, let's talk about 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:37.960 some economic news, because there's a bit of it around 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:41.200 this week. In fact, the big four banks are saying 0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:43.120 to the Reserve Bank, who is having to get another meeting, 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:45.880 this time on Tuesday, cut the rate and I'm all 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:48.760 good with this bring it on as a person who, 0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:50.800 like many, is trying to pay off a house, and 0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:53.640 like many, gets squeezed by this stuff because you do right. 0:21:53.720 --> 0:21:55.199 It doesn't matter what type of house you're trying to 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:58.760 pay off. It's been a crazy few years. I don't 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:00.720 care what the political ups and downs of it is. 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:03.840