1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: And as I said, spent the weekend in Sojuna having 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: a deep dive into the social unrest, the issues, the brawling, 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: the terrible state of the place that we heard so 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: much about over the summer months, with people essentially camping 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: on the foreshore particularly, which is a beautiful spot. I've 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: got to tell you, if you've never been to Sojourna, 7 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: it's worth a visit. It really is just picturesque as anything. 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: And unfortunately that was all marred over the summer period 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: for the second year in a row as well. But 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: meet one of the locals that I caught up with 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: over the weekend on Saturday afternoon, Bas thanks a lot 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: for your time. You're a brickie, you work around the area. 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: Tell me the sort of stuff you see. 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: Well, Matthew ovid Instajna for probably thirty five years plus 15 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: and just recently we've had a contract down next to 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: the pub on the foreshore and it was through the 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: warmer months and it was every day pretty much without fail. 18 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 2: There was behavior on the foreshore which was just appalling, 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: to be honest, like what give us some example, ah, fighting, bickering, 20 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: openly drinking, just squabbling all the time, loud aggressive behavior, 21 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 2: which is just it's embarrassing for us that love Sagna. 22 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: What should be done about it? And everyone seems to 23 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: bump the problem on. No one seems to want to 24 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: take responsibility for it. 25 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: No, they don't. 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: I think we need more policing. I think we need 27 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: a more police, heavier police presence on the foreshore. I 28 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: believe our police are understaffed. I don't think it's their fault. 29 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: I think they're understaffed. I mean, we've spoken to the 30 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 2: head of police here. He doesn't seem to think they're 31 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: understaff But I know when we have issues. I live 32 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: on the foreshore here and I know when we have 33 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: issues of a night, it seems to take the police 34 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: a long time to come, and then when they come 35 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: sometimes there's little, if none, action taken against the people 36 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: that are being a nuisance. And they say there's already system, 37 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: so they're off at a higher priority job. 38 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: But to me, that's screens understaffing. 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: Well that's no different, Tadlade, I can tell you with 40 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: you know out yeah, absolutely, but still it doesn't help 41 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: you any The whole areas of dry Zone, isn't it 42 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: the whole town? So what goes on with the drinking. 43 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: Why is that tolerated? 44 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: I can't answer that, mate. I see it constantly in 45 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: front of my house. I see people openly drinking. My 46 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: next door neighbor he walks his dog every morning, and 47 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: he told me the other day that he gets one 48 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars in alcohol cans just along the 49 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: foreshore every three to four weeks. 50 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 3: Right, that's a lot of a lot of drinking. 51 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: That's a lot of drinking. 52 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 2: And that's not even picking up like the gym bean 53 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 2: bottles or the bladders. 54 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: He's picking up cans to cash him in. 55 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: So that's fifteen hundred cans, that's right, fifteen hundred every 56 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: three weeks. 57 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: Yep, yep. 58 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 2: And I spoke to another person the other I said, 59 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: a lady from the caravan park was getting about thirty 60 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: dollars a week, so wow, So yeah, it's pretty poor. 61 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, or she's getting what he leaves behind on. 62 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 3: Me, that's right. Yeah, yeah. It shouldn't be happening. It 63 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 3: shouldn't be happening. 64 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: What about you know, your property here, properties on the foreshore, 65 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: are they being targeted in any way or even around 66 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: the town. 67 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: Well, our properties haven't been targeted, but I know a 68 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: couple of years ago my son come home for Christmas 69 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: and had his car parked out the front, and I 70 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: had my cousin from Queensland had a car and caravan 71 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: parked at the side of my house and both cars 72 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: had their windows smashed through the night and pilford through 73 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: and we got up and chased the guy through the park. Actually, 74 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: but the police got him in the end, I think, 75 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: but the damage was done and I named my friend 76 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: from Queensland. I don't think they ever want to come back. 77 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: You know, they were quite distraught. They were elderly people. 78 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: They were in the van at the time when their 79 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: car got smashed. Yeah, it was quite disturbing for them. 80 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: Well, okay, and these are not uncommon stories, I take it. 81 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: No, it's not uncommon. It's not uncommon at all. I 82 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: mean most nights, if. 83 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: I walk outside my house before I go to bed, 84 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: I can hear some sort of bickering or squabbling going 85 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: on somewhere in the distance. 86 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: What do you make of it? Okay, policing, you want 87 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: more police counsels. Should they be doing more? Could they 88 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: be doing more? 89 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: Oh? 90 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know what the As far 91 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: as what the council could do. 92 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know. I can't really answer that one. Mate. 93 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: Okay, so many services in town, like different Indigenous Aboriginal 94 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: corporations and different organizations to help people. Is that the problem? 95 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: Are there too many? So therefore people come looking for 96 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: help and then in the town and problems arise? Is 97 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: that part of the problem. Is there too many or 98 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: is there just not enough? 99 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: No, I think there's way too many. I think we 100 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: we've babied people for too long. Like if you keep 101 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: giving people things all all the time, then they're not 102 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: going to go anywhere. 103 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: Mate. 104 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: They get everything they need here, they don't. They get 105 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: coffees just down from my house at the daycare center, 106 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: they go up the street. They can go to the 107 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 2: Red Cross and get more coffees and barbecues or whatever 108 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: they do there, and then they can just go to 109 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 2: the foreshore and spend their money on our coal and gambling. 110 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 4: No. 111 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: I think there's too many services and those services need 112 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: to be held accountable for what they do. 113 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: It's a tad call. I mean, the weather over the 114 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: weekend just magnificent, but it is cooler at nights now, 115 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: and you know, it's definitely winter's kicking just like it 116 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: is in Adelaide, actually pretty much the same as here. 117 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: Is that why perhaps there's fewer people around. 118 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, one hundred percent through the warmer months, 119 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: the whole foreshere. Like I said, I've just worked up 120 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: there building the arts and Cultural center, and we were 121 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: there off and on for three months through the warmer months, 122 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: and with our father, that was every day there was 123 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: something going down. And like I said, I love Sojuna. 124 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: I love living here, I love the lifestyle, and I 125 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 2: have no reason to want to get on media and 126 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: bad mouth our town because, like as I said, I 127 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: love it. But I guess at the moment, we feel 128 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: like we're almost under siege and we don't have a choice. 129 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 2: We feel like our backs are against the wall, and 130 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 2: we don't feel like we're getting any help from anybody, 131 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: so we're being forced into this position. 132 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,679 Speaker 1: That's bad. Is one of the locals in so Juna 133 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: went down the main street caught up with some of 134 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: the business operators there, and you meet a couple of 135 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: them here. So I'm here with Mark and the news agency, 136 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: and Michelle Wie runs a road house just out of 137 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: or in the town, just on the edges Mark, What 138 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: do you reckon about Sajuna? 139 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: What are people saying the place it's a good still 140 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: a good place. 141 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 4: Kids can still go to the local skatepark without any 142 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 4: fear of being kidnapped and un towards. They can go 143 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 4: for a swim, they can go for a fish. The 144 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 4: same issues with in town with the airthon, intoxication of 145 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 4: bits and bobs, But them same people would come to 146 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 4: the rescue with them children if there was anything un 147 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 4: towards happening. So in my eyes, it's still a very 148 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 4: very safe, good town. 149 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: What do you say with those issues? I mean what 150 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,119 Speaker 1: got me up here was people calling into five double 151 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: as saying, look, the town's going downhill. There's people drunk everywhere, 152 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: there are brawl, there's litter, there's you know, police aren't 153 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: doing much. What's your response to that. 154 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 4: The police can only do what they can do their 155 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 4: service and resources are quite stretched regardle. 156 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 3: We do have issues. Yes, there are some trunks around town. 157 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 4: I'm not saying there's not, but they're not people that 158 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 4: are going to run a rite or don't. 159 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 3: Think it's stupid. They're just having a drink. Quite frankly, 160 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: are they doing it? 161 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: In the drives, aren't they Yes. 162 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 4: They are no no no qualms there. But where else 163 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 4: does someone go? Quite frankly, there's no no services, no 164 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 4: areas set up for someone to go on a Saturday 165 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 4: or a Monday or whatever it is and have a 166 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 4: drink that doesn't exist in town. 167 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 3: So unfortunately they have to break the law. 168 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: Sure, what about you and the roadhouse? What are your issues? 169 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: What are you concerned about? 170 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 5: It's just the theft and the drive offs and that's 171 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 5: the main thing. Really. 172 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike was saying here you gets shoplifting too. 173 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, it happens everywhere, even food land. 174 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: You're telling me earlier that the drive offs you do 175 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: find them, you catch them. 176 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, we catch them. We have drunk call the cops 177 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 5: and report them to them and then they go to court. 178 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: What do you reckon about the wrap so Juna's getting 179 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: Is it fair? Is it unfair? 180 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 5: It's fair? Yeah. Like I agree with Mike about the 181 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 5: kids going to swimming by themselves and all that. 182 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: Safe for the kids. 183 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 5: It's what you're saying. It's safe here and people look 184 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 5: out for them.