WEBVTT - #1899 Tech, Extortion & Chinese Cars - Patrick Bonello

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<v Speaker 1>I got a team. Welcome to the new project. Patrick's here,

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<v Speaker 1>Tip's here, You're here. So that's all of us, so

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<v Speaker 1>we can get underway. I will mention that Patrick and

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<v Speaker 1>Tiff for being inappropriate, as is often the case, before

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<v Speaker 1>we press the go button. If Patrick tell people about

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<v Speaker 1>the video that we watched, because we can't play it,

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<v Speaker 1>but we can direct. Firstly, Hello, Patrick, tell people about

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<v Speaker 1>that video. They should go and watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Les Patterson talking about getting his wife a new dog

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<v Speaker 2>is probably the best way of explaining it is absolutely hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you do a Google search Les Patterson new dog,

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<v Speaker 2>but don't do it right now because we've got to show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, don't do it now. I actually I've got it

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<v Speaker 1>right here. Yeah. Yeah, schnauz up dog. Yeah, that's it. Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>tiv Hi, what were you just guzzling something?

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<v Speaker 3>I was just guzzling a big drink of water.

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<v Speaker 1>Has your dodgy body holding up? I know this is

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<v Speaker 1>off topic, but you haven't been it. You haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>at the gym. You haven't been where I trained for

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<v Speaker 1>bloody six months? How are your broken bits?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what it feels?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>On topic?

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<v Speaker 4>Because today I was at the gym this morning, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking about it a lot, and I'm just trying

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<v Speaker 4>to figure it out, and I think that I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's perimenopause. I think I just I can't recover from staff.

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<v Speaker 4>The injuries are okay, but my inability to train and

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<v Speaker 4>recover and.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really yeah, it's really good. It's really a great time.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't expect that answer. Do you reckon? Because this

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<v Speaker 1>is not a loaded question. I do not know the answer.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you think that because you've trained so hard

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<v Speaker 1>and you've been so lean for so long, and we

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<v Speaker 1>know that women generally have a pound for pound have

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<v Speaker 1>a high level of body for health like for health reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>but you've been very do you reckon? That's I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know there's a correlation, there, a relationship or none at all.

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<v Speaker 4>It's one of the reasons that I've been doing and

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<v Speaker 4>throwing is to oh is this hormonal? Is this my age?

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<v Speaker 4>Is this where I'm at? Or is this long term?

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<v Speaker 4>Doing too much? So I've changed a lot of things

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<v Speaker 4>or you know, I've also just the whole ADHD symptom

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<v Speaker 4>type things are really ramping.

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<v Speaker 3>For me right now.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's been a real but I don't know this

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<v Speaker 4>the last few weeks, I've just gone, Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 4>this is hormonal and whether it the other how much

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<v Speaker 4>the other stuff layers in. I'm sure it does, but

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<v Speaker 4>I definitely don't feel the same on a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>levels as I have and that's kind of felt that

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<v Speaker 4>way for at least eighteen months to a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's well, will be one. I hope that as

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<v Speaker 1>much as it can sort out, sorts out, or you

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<v Speaker 1>sort it out soon. But I'm interested to see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how you go with that and what you discover. Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>James Bonello, how's your health? Son? Are you still? We

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<v Speaker 1>know you do your tai chi and we know you're

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<v Speaker 1>out in the wilderness with your dog, your schnouter. How's

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<v Speaker 1>your training and your body and your health?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I didn't say anything, but I know I've gone

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<v Speaker 2>back to the gym, which has been fantastic, although I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't there this morning. I've only done two weeks, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know I can my body. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be I don't want to obsess about body weight, but

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<v Speaker 2>I've actually in two weeks time, I've dropped almost a

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<v Speaker 2>belt size, but I haven't dropped any body weight, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm equating that to my muscles getting back into gear.

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<v Speaker 2>It's freaky. I'm exactly the same weight, but I've dropped

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<v Speaker 2>a notch on my belt and that's the only thing

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<v Speaker 2>I can put it down. And that's just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>four days a week of doing weights, just getting in

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<v Speaker 2>there and pumping out the weights, very light weights to

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<v Speaker 2>start with start with, because I had a very ongoing

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<v Speaker 2>tennis elbow injury that just wouldn't good. It took months

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<v Speaker 2>and months and months. So I'm very mindful of not

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<v Speaker 2>pushing hard. But that kind of blew my mind. That's

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<v Speaker 2>is that even possible in two weeks to have that

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<v Speaker 2>sort of.

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<v Speaker 1>React well, I mean, especially when you haven't been in

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<v Speaker 1>the gym for a long time, your body's very responsive,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and like you have a training background. You

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<v Speaker 1>spend a lot a lot of time training at my gym,

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<v Speaker 1>like a long time, and Tif's got a big training background,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think once you've been not I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 1>in shape anyway, you're very in shape, but you're probably

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<v Speaker 1>not in lifting heavy shit shape, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you go back.

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<v Speaker 1>And your body goes like there is a thing called

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<v Speaker 1>muscle memory, which is a little bit of bro science.

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<v Speaker 1>But the truth is that you have if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a training background. Let's say we're I had Patrick that

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<v Speaker 1>had never lifted await and Patrick that had lifted weights

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, but not for a while. The one that's

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<v Speaker 1>lifted weights but not for a while, that one's going

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<v Speaker 1>to adapt much quicker. Your body's going to get back.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to make more progress in less time, is

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom line. But yeah, that makes sense. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it's I just think everyone who can

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<v Speaker 1>should be doing strength training when they're forty or older

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<v Speaker 1>forty five at the latest. But and that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>a gym necessarily, or dumbells or bar bells necessarily. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of options to get strong. I got We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get on topic in a moment, but I want to know.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you a question that Kelly, who

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<v Speaker 1>Tiff coaches, who is a big listener to TIFF's show

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<v Speaker 1>and this show. Kelly was on the show this week Patrick,

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<v Speaker 1>who's a listener, and she asked me fifteen questions, and

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<v Speaker 1>one of the questions that she asked was if you

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<v Speaker 1>could only do one specific exercise or type of exercise

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<v Speaker 1>and you couldn't do anything else, And she's like, for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of your life, what would it be like,

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<v Speaker 1>or like, what would be the best thing for overall whatever?

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<v Speaker 1>And what would your answer be, Patrick? If you could

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<v Speaker 1>only do you know a particular if we're talking not

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<v Speaker 1>about strolling around suburbia with the dog, but in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of like a kind of training or workout, you can

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<v Speaker 1>only do one thing in this hypothetical reality, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you consider tie chee your workout?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it'd have to be tai chie, no question, because

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<v Speaker 2>it has a longevity to it that means you there

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<v Speaker 2>are no barriers to it. You know, there's tie chies

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<v Speaker 2>specifically for people with arthritis, there's taie chief for people

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<v Speaker 2>just sitting in chairs. So you can do tie cheat

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<v Speaker 2>at any stage in your life and at any part

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<v Speaker 2>of your life, and the ongoing health benefits because it

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<v Speaker 2>slows the heart rate. You know. I always find this hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be in the middle of a ninety minute session

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<v Speaker 2>of doing tai chie with my students and I'll get

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<v Speaker 2>pinged by my watch saying it's time to start moving

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<v Speaker 2>and exercise, and I've already done forty five minutes. Because

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<v Speaker 2>you're not taxing the heart. But we know there are

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<v Speaker 2>amazing health benefits from balance, coordination, core stability that movement.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's passive, it's really slow movement, but there's strength

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<v Speaker 2>and moving slow. And the best way to explain it

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<v Speaker 2>is if you were throwing a kick or a part

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<v Speaker 2>if if you think about it, you're throwing a kick,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you do it in slow motion and you

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<v Speaker 2>slow down, what would be a half second kick down

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<v Speaker 2>to five seconds? Think about what you're having to engage

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of your core muscles to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>do that, and the ongoing benefit of having better core

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<v Speaker 2>and better balance. So no, it would be unquestionably it

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<v Speaker 2>would have to be tie.

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<v Speaker 1>Chi perfect good answer, good answer, Tiffany and cook if

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<v Speaker 1>you could, and of course this is never going to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>but if if you just had to do one thing

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<v Speaker 1>which was most beneficial for you, best all round thing

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<v Speaker 1>that you might.

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<v Speaker 4>Do, I'm torn because I've got a big love for

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<v Speaker 4>strength now, but I think there's a huge argument still

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<v Speaker 4>for boxing, Like I love watching people aging get into

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<v Speaker 4>boxing and the cognitive benefits, the emotional benefits, there's there's

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<v Speaker 4>just so many benefits and it's easy to engage and

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<v Speaker 4>you can do it at a high level, you can

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<v Speaker 4>reach peak heart rate, or you can do it slow.

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<v Speaker 4>You can do shadow boxing and technique. You get connection

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<v Speaker 4>with people, you develop, you develop relationships, and there's just

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<v Speaker 4>so many dynamics you can't like. You can't get sick

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<v Speaker 4>of it. I'm a very you like I can get

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<v Speaker 4>sick of things easy. But there's always something different to work.

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<v Speaker 4>And you can work on footwork, you can work on strategy,

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<v Speaker 4>you can work on flow, you can work on fitness,

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<v Speaker 4>you can work on power and speed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I love it, I would say, but you're excluding

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<v Speaker 1>the getting punched in the face.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you don't necessary And that's the thing is you can.

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<v Speaker 4>You can do sparring if you want, but you don't

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<v Speaker 4>have to.

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<v Speaker 3>You can.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a heaps of things you can do in box. Look,

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<v Speaker 4>I just started with two clients that are over seventy.

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<v Speaker 4>They are what They've never done anything like it in

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<v Speaker 4>their lives, and it's so beautiful to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm you Craig.

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<v Speaker 3>Craig's taking up surfing. I heard the answer to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I'm not. But but I thought from an exercise,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, exose physiology perspective. I was thinking. And actually,

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<v Speaker 1>both of your and I'm not just saying this, both

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<v Speaker 1>of your answers are really good, right, And I think

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<v Speaker 1>also which I didn't, I didn't factor in as much,

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<v Speaker 1>although we did talk about a bit, but the sociology

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<v Speaker 1>point of view where you're connecting with other humans and

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<v Speaker 1>all of that, which is also unbelievably good for your

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<v Speaker 1>immune system and cellular health and brain function and dopamine

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. Yeah, So I picked surfing the reason

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<v Speaker 1>that I did. Why if you think about surfing, as

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<v Speaker 1>you were talking about Patrick, so balance coordinations, spatial awareness,

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<v Speaker 1>upper body strength, lower body strength, core strength, muscular endurance,

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<v Speaker 1>like you've got to go from lying on your board

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<v Speaker 1>to jump up on your board, so you need power,

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of explosiveness, and unbelievable cardiovascular fitness. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just think from a like when we talk about fitness,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people would probably think, can can she

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<v Speaker 1>run three kilometers? She can, therefore she's fit, which is true,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe she can't do three pushups. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a specific kind of a or the dude

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<v Speaker 1>who can bench press a Hyundai but can't run out

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<v Speaker 1>of a burning building, right, which was me for much

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<v Speaker 1>of my life.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the crab.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't need crab walk out. Yeah. The

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<v Speaker 1>Crab's pretty good at most things, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>running distances is one of them. But now we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>straight onto.

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<v Speaker 2>You say one thing. Sorry, when you talked about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about our little passions and it was great

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<v Speaker 2>to hear Tiff. And then you said, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>other good thing is about connecting with people. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think of my tied sheen. I love connecting with people.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think when Tiff connects with people, that's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically yeah, that's true. It's an ambiguous term.

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<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to add.

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<v Speaker 4>In twenty fourteen, I ran a program, a government funded

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<v Speaker 4>program for women who had experienced violence, and they were

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<v Speaker 4>all they came from a clinical psychologists referreding to the program.

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<v Speaker 4>We did once a week for twelve weeks, just teaching

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<v Speaker 4>them some boxing in the gym, no contact.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a lady and she would have been probably

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<v Speaker 4>in her sixties. And by the third I think the

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<v Speaker 4>third week, she came in and she looked at me.

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<v Speaker 4>She said, I haven't had a panic attack for three days.

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<v Speaker 4>She goes, I have them several times a day, and

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<v Speaker 4>I blew me away because I used to train every

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<v Speaker 4>single day and to think that one day a week

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<v Speaker 4>in an environment like that, learning getting in your body,

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<v Speaker 4>learning how to use your body, learning how to feel empowered,

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<v Speaker 4>like it's the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think forget crago as males that we for

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<v Speaker 2>the most part can walk down the street at night

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<v Speaker 2>and feel totally safe, and that's not the case for

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<v Speaker 2>half of the population. And that does my head in

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<v Speaker 2>a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Mate, I agree with you broadly. Yeah, sorry, mate, Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very aware of that because in Hampton, where I

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<v Speaker 1>walk around, and I'm sure a lot of people think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like some fucking urban stalker or some fucking covert

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<v Speaker 1>ninja who's going to steal their telly. But anyway, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always aware that when I'm out and I'm walking and

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<v Speaker 1>I've got on a jacket and fucking army shorts, that

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<v Speaker 1>I must look to some people terror fine, And if

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<v Speaker 1>there's a woman walking towards me, I crossed the road,

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<v Speaker 1>so I intentionally go to the other side of the

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<v Speaker 1>road so they don't need to walk towards me feeling nervous,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I know they're safe. They don't know they're safe,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm hyper aware of that and I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>went on a walk. This is how much I think, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess this is you know, my PhD is understanding

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<v Speaker 1>how others think. Right, this is how much I think

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<v Speaker 1>about this shit. The other day I went on a walk.

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing my steps, and I ended up in Sandringham.

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<v Speaker 1>I just went through all of these backstreets and I

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<v Speaker 1>came out of a street and ended up walking past

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<v Speaker 1>a school. I can't tell you a kids are primary school.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you how uncomfortable I was because I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to be a man walking, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>walked over the other I'm like, fuck, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be here, like I don't want to be a

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<v Speaker 1>guy walking, you know, just that obviously there's no agenda

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<v Speaker 1>or intention, but I don't want to be. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want the kids to feel anything. I don't want the

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<v Speaker 1>teachers to think anything. So I walked to the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of the road. So I'm on the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of the road from the school, intentionally looking straight ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>I worry that much about how other people might experience

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<v Speaker 1>the impact of me in whatever way, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that for me anyway, it's important, and I realize how

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<v Speaker 1>I don't of course, I can't realize the way that

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<v Speaker 1>a woman can realize, but I'm cognizant of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I try to be I try to help them be

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<v Speaker 1>as comfortable as they can.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that's admirable. I actually like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do what I can, Hey, mate, But enough

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<v Speaker 1>about me and Tiff and you. My list from you

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<v Speaker 1>just disappeared. I can't find it, so could you host

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<v Speaker 1>the show please?

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<v Speaker 2>Yesh, you're think, hey, welcome to Do you write lists

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<v Speaker 2>when you go to the supermarket or do you pop

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<v Speaker 2>it into your phone and do you a little shopping

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<v Speaker 2>list on your phone? Because there's a really interesting research

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<v Speaker 2>into the psychology behind writing a list.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, my mother is the world's most prolific list writer

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<v Speaker 1>on paper, and I did do it that way. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in the phone now and I'm not proud of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, my to do list is in my phone.

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<v Speaker 2>So I not only write a list on my little

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<v Speaker 2>post it notes, but I use a fountain pen to

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<v Speaker 2>do it because I love writing. And I'm really feeling

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<v Speaker 2>vindicated now because evidently going a bit old school is

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<v Speaker 2>something that a lot of people do like and sixty

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<v Speaker 2>eight percent of adults say writing helps them feel organized

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<v Speaker 2>and in control. And now psychologists are saying that people

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<v Speaker 2>who stick with handwriting, particularly shopping lists, aren't just clinging

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<v Speaker 2>to a habit, they have some surprisingly positive traits. So

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<v Speaker 2>it means you're naturally conscientious and love feeling like you're

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<v Speaker 2>on top of things. That's one of the top things.

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<v Speaker 2>Your memory gets a bonus workout. When you write a list.

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<v Speaker 2>You're protecting your focus from a digital distraction, so easy

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<v Speaker 2>when you're looking at your phone to then to get

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<v Speaker 2>distracted by a pin or something else that's happening on

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<v Speaker 2>your phone. And it also means that you shop with

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<v Speaker 2>intention and you'll spend less because you're focused on getting

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<v Speaker 2>those items, you're less likely to be distracted and buying

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that just happens to be on special. And then

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<v Speaker 2>there's a tactile engagement and that's always something good. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought it was really interesting. And even the

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<v Speaker 2>cognitive offloading lowers your stress. So by putting things onto

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<v Speaker 2>a piece of paper means you're not having to worry

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<v Speaker 2>about whether you've forgotten something, and then that way it

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<v Speaker 2>reduces your stress level and nostalgia is kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>good thing too, So kind of topping off the list

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<v Speaker 2>is a nice thing, and in particular as nostalgic as

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<v Speaker 2>it gets, writing with a fountain pin is it's nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I get a warm, fuzzy every time I write with

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<v Speaker 2>my pin. It's nerdy as hell, isn't it? But it's

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<v Speaker 2>analogue as hell too.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that? Do you think that things kind

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<v Speaker 1>of go in cycles. It's like there's gonna be people going, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess what I'm doing. I'm writing with a pen.

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<v Speaker 1>Other people, you're fucking what, Brian, I'm writing with a

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<v Speaker 1>pen on a pad. Oh my god. I watched this

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<v Speaker 1>thing briefly last night. Do you know who Sir Arthur

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<v Speaker 1>Conan Doyle is Patrick? He wrote tars and uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he wrote Sherlock Holmes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I thought he wrote Tarsan as well, Tiff.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you check that name? So I think it's Sir

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<v Speaker 1>Arthur Conan Doyle, or maybe I got.

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<v Speaker 2>That eggar Rice Burrows. You're quite right, beggar Rice Burrows

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<v Speaker 2>write Tows and you're right it was the Sherlock Holmes.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, So I was watching a thing about him and

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote his first you know what's funny is this

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<v Speaker 1>is a dude who wrote Sherlock Holmes, Who's Become? And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was like eight ninety and they were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about his process and they've got all these notes

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<v Speaker 1>from writing his first book, which became a bestseller, and

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<v Speaker 1>when it came out, everybody is like, all the critics

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<v Speaker 1>are like, this as shit, right, this is shit, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's poorly written and the characters are not well developed

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<v Speaker 1>in anyway. It became the biggest thing of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were He wrote his first which became Mega

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<v Speaker 1>I forget the name of it, in four weeks with

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<v Speaker 1>a pen in four weeks, so he isolated himself for

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<v Speaker 1>four weeks and obviously handwritten. It was eight ninety and

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at this lady who she's like this historian,

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<v Speaker 1>and she got this other lady along that I'd never

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<v Speaker 1>heard of, but a well known British fiction writer, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were going through the way that it was developed,

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<v Speaker 1>in the way that he wrote it in all these notes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, yeah, that's that's just ancient history. Now

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<v Speaker 1>imagine how quick he could write. But I wondered if

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<v Speaker 1>maybe writing on paper with a pen taps into a

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<v Speaker 1>different I don't know created it.

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<v Speaker 2>It does more. Then they're encouraging kids now at school

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<v Speaker 2>to go back to writing with pens because it activates

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<v Speaker 2>the brain in a totally different way when you put

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<v Speaker 2>letters together and then form the words. When you write them,

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<v Speaker 2>you're forming them in your head as well, and there

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<v Speaker 2>are definitely health benefits. But you know what the good

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<v Speaker 2>thing about Athur Conan Doyle is that if he's pen like,

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<v Speaker 2>if he'd snapped the knieb on his pen, he could

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<v Speaker 2>have his mustache into the bottle of ink and kept writing.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to look up. Everyone now has to jump

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<v Speaker 2>in and look for a photo of Arthur Conan Doyle

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<v Speaker 2>because he has the most epic mustache that could also

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<v Speaker 2>be used as a pen.

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<v Speaker 1>It is world class.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wish I could grow a mustache like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been trying to open your document over here, which

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<v Speaker 1>is I can just keep going, you know, dude, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all right, all right, you keep going, you keep hosting.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got it open now.

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<v Speaker 2>But Jacob Space the Final Frontier. This is really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>China has been as the first nation in the world

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<v Speaker 2>to fire a laser at the Moon, which was directly

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<v Speaker 2>pinpointed one of their satellites that's orbiting the Moon. Now

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<v Speaker 2>you think, yeah, well, you know that's not much. The

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<v Speaker 2>Moon's pretty big, big target to go for. Well, it

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<v Speaker 2>was very specific and in fact, aiming at the Moon

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<v Speaker 2>is the equivalent I think they were saying the equivalent

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<v Speaker 2>of hitting a hair from ten kilometers away, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>if you're trying at laser point and shoot a hair

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<v Speaker 2>from eight from ten kilometers away, that's the equivalent. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is pretty epic because they're hoping and there's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of another space race going on at the moment this

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<v Speaker 2>time it's kind of China and the US, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to be said for, you know, getting back

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<v Speaker 2>to the Moon, and they're talking this sort of technology

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<v Speaker 2>will help with autonomous rovers and things like that that

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<v Speaker 2>then could be remotely controlled if needed, and they're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about exploring more of the polar ends of the Moon,

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<v Speaker 2>and China's showing a lot of interest, and of course

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<v Speaker 2>the Americans are saying they want to go back to

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<v Speaker 2>the Moon as well. But this is a real first.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's amazing to be able to do that. That

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<v Speaker 2>that pin accuracy was pretty pretty epic stuff, and it

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<v Speaker 2>really highlights how advanced, you know, China is when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to, you know, the development of technology, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we saw this will move kids. I don't know, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a terrible thing to say, but we used to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when someone talked about a transistor radio, you'd

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<v Speaker 2>say Japanese junk and it was a term that got

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<v Speaker 2>thrown around a lot. And you saw that the Japanese

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<v Speaker 2>went from being the imitators to the innovators, and China's

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<v Speaker 2>doing exactly the same things. So China was really good

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<v Speaker 2>at copying stuff. But now it's taken the next step

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<v Speaker 2>and it's you know, it's developing and using some of

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<v Speaker 2>the world's best drones. And in this case you can

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<v Speaker 2>see you know, space and getting out and exploring space

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<v Speaker 2>and going back to the moon, and China's really got

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<v Speaker 2>it and in its sites at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, that's you're exactly right. I remember when

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<v Speaker 1>when I was a kid, way before Tiff was a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, we thought the Japanese things were kind of crap,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they became good. Then they became almost like

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<v Speaker 1>leading the charge for like well built, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>price like well priced. And then remember when Korean car

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<v Speaker 1>cars came outside Hyundai and Kia and all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're like, they were terrible. I mean, they were

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<v Speaker 1>just terrible, and people used to joke about Korean cars

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<v Speaker 1>and now they're amongst the biggest sellers. And the build quality,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've got one, I've got Hyundai. It's fucking amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's they're incredible, and the same you're right with Chinese.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when the first Chinese utes landed here about

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years ago, they would tear they're very, very agricultural,

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<v Speaker 1>and now it's, yeah, it's incredible, it's incredible. Under technology

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<v Speaker 1>is it's getting cheaper and cheaper and more and more

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<v Speaker 1>accessible to mate.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing. I was going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>this later, but China now says that they've solved the

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<v Speaker 2>EV battery problem, and they've got parody between filling up

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<v Speaker 2>a battery and what it would be to fill up

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<v Speaker 2>a tank of fuel, so effectively, what they're saying is

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<v Speaker 2>this is kind of ratio they talk about. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're filling up the tank, how many kilometers can

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<v Speaker 2>you get on say ten leaders or a leader of fuel.

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<v Speaker 2>And now the Chinese are saying that they can get

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<v Speaker 2>the equivalent range from one minute of filling up via

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<v Speaker 2>an electric vehicle in exactly the same way that it

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<v Speaker 2>would be one minute of fuel going into your car.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got parody for the first time ever. This has

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<v Speaker 2>been kind of a bit of a holy grail of

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<v Speaker 2>ev tech to be able to fill up a battery

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<v Speaker 2>in the same amount of time. So five minutes to

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<v Speaker 2>fill a car five with normal fuel and ice engine

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<v Speaker 2>and in internal combustion engine, and five minutes to fill

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<v Speaker 2>an EV in the Chinese record that they've cracked it

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<v Speaker 2>on that one, which is pretty amazing, So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have those long wait times to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to get that extra five hundred kilometers of distance in

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<v Speaker 2>just five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw this thing the other day, this young African

0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:36.680
<v Speaker 1>American dude. He's like a scientist inventor, like genius young,

0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:40.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how old, but young, like earlier than

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 1>early twenties, like under twenty five. And he's built, he's built,

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 1>he's created fuel out of plastic and you'll see the

0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:53.240
<v Speaker 1>whole thing, right, and this is not a joke and

0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:57.320
<v Speaker 1>it's not a like And and then he was at

0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:01.159
<v Speaker 1>this launch where he was putting the fuel that he

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:05.640
<v Speaker 1>made from plastic into a prato into a Toyota prato,

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:09.440
<v Speaker 1>and all of the comments were like they were either

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<v Speaker 1>like you're fucking amazing, that's incredible, or get some security

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and people need to look after this man, protect this man,

0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 1>because it seemed that, you know, there's been a history

0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:24.200
<v Speaker 1>of people who invented shit that was going to change

0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 1>the world who mysteriously died Patrick.

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't there an Australian guy years ago that.

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:34.760
<v Speaker 1>He built a steam engine and engine powered by water. Yeah, yeah,

0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:37.160
<v Speaker 1>well they could run cars. Yeah, yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well the interesting thing is, when you think about it,

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 2>plastic is a petroleum byproduct. Yes, so if you could

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:45.359
<v Speaker 2>convert it back, that makes a lot of sense. I mean,

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:47.440
<v Speaker 2>I've got no idea how he did it, but that's

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:49.000
<v Speaker 2>that's phenomenal, isn't it.

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:51.479
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, we won't be having that discussion. I mean,

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:54.680
<v Speaker 1>and you think about like over the years, I think

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 1>they built I don't know if this is true, but

0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:59.399
<v Speaker 1>I grew up think of being told this that this

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:02.360
<v Speaker 1>guy built a car tire that could do a million miles.

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:07.639
<v Speaker 1>So you know, so all the car manufacturers went fuck

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:10.640
<v Speaker 1>that and then bought the rights to that and then

0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 1>put it in a vault somewhere and went, fuck that tie.

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 1>We're never selling that. Yeah you hear it, You're never

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:17.399
<v Speaker 1>selling another pair of ties.

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, you hit that stuff all the time. But look,

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:24.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know it would be to solve the world's

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 2>fuel crisis issue in terms of you know, the kind

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:32.399
<v Speaker 2>of pollutants and you know the kind of ongoing you know,

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 2>the cabals that seem to control the oil prices and

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.679
<v Speaker 2>all that sort of stuff. That would be pretty amazing,

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:40.240
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't It also.

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:43.359
<v Speaker 1>Pretty unlikely when you think about It's like, and I

0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:46.480
<v Speaker 1>know this sounds conspiracy theory, and I'm the last conspiracy

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:49.239
<v Speaker 1>theorist in the world, but when you think about how

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 1>much money is made out of oil, how much money

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:55.199
<v Speaker 1>is made out of big farmer, Well, if we found

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:59.959
<v Speaker 1>really simple cures, or really simple solutions, or really planet friendly,

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 1>human friendly, immune system friendly cures from or solutions that

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:09.960
<v Speaker 1>involved nature that didn't make anyone a lot of money, well,

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:12.480
<v Speaker 1>then a lot of industries, a lot of organizations are

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>going broke. So you know, as much as it sounds bad,

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 1>it's it's you know, it's in like people's sickness is

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>very profitable. So you know, there are people are some

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 1>organizations are obviously financially incentivized for people to stay sick. Yeah,

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's just a fact.

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:38.479
<v Speaker 2>I remember once being told by somebody. I don't think

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 2>it was whilst I was in China, but it was

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:43.160
<v Speaker 2>related to China. And if you were the person who

0:27:43.240 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 2>was the medical person in a village or in a town,

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:50.439
<v Speaker 2>and it was your job to be their doctor, you

0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 2>got paid when everybody was healthy, but if they got sick,

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 2>you stop getting paid. That the mindset being is you're

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 2>there to keep people healthy, not to you know, have

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:03.639
<v Speaker 2>to then rush around and fix them when they don't work.

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:06.639
<v Speaker 2>So there's there's a totally different mindset to the Eastern

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 2>philosophy or that philosophy of being healthy. And it's like,

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:13.879
<v Speaker 2>you know, a medical person keeps you healthy, doesn't fix

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 2>what's already been broken, so don't let it get broken

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 2>in the first place. I love that mindset that you

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:22.199
<v Speaker 2>know we work towards, and I guess you guys are

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 2>a testament to that. You know, you both tried really

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 2>hard to keep healthy all your lives, and it's something

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:29.959
<v Speaker 2>that you know, I guess I have too. To that

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 2>to a degree. And so the more that we work

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 2>towards keeping healthy for as long as we can, I

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:35.920
<v Speaker 2>think that's the most important thing.

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think us, not that us three are better

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 1>than anyone else, but we're probably unicorns because none of

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:44.719
<v Speaker 1>us drink, none of us smoke, none of us do drugs.

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:48.360
<v Speaker 1>We're all fun times, do you? Yeah?

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 3>Not often?

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 1>But how many glasses of alcohol would you have a year?

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 4>Ah?

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 3>Not many? I don't know, but not many.

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 2>I reckon about twelve.

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:05.240
<v Speaker 3>You know why, because it's messaged in my sleep. Yeah,

0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 3>and sleep's important, and then.

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 1>We can find so if we can find you some

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 1>booze that makes you sleep, you're going to be all in.

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can still get deep sleep.

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 2>You about sleep? I did a sleep study this week

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 2>at home. Go on, Oh no, Well, because I've had

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 2>issues with my sleeping and so I decided to do

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 2>a home sleep study. You know, you get your doctor

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 2>to refer you and then they attach all these games.

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what. It took me. Twenty minutes. And

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty tech savvy, but I'm looking at the mirror

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 2>trying to attach the stuff. You know, you shove things

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 2>up your those and you're putting electrodes on your head

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 2>and then on your chest and it measures your heart

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 2>rate you're breathing and all that sort of stuff. It

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 2>was pretty full on with all that. It was probably

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 2>the worst night of sleep I've ever had. I can't

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 2>wait for the results to come in.

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 1>That is such a valid point, like here, let's see

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:01.479
<v Speaker 1>how let's see a tip all night sleep. But what

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 1>we'll do is we'll cover you in all their shit

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>so you can't have a typical night's sleep, and then

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>we'll use the data from that and call that your standard.

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Well that's fucking ridiculous. Well, you know what you need.

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 1>You need a team of nurses in there, male or female.

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>You can have blokes and you know, just sitting in

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 1>chairs with no patching, just watching. That's not creepy at all.

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>And for you they can all be you know, thirty

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 1>to thirty five and well built. I'm just saying, not

0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 1>that I've ever designed a sleep study, but you're welcome

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 1>world there.

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 2>It is lounds like you're the blake to speak to now.

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Now, how much more excited are you about that sleep study,

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 1>yester than what I did?

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 3>Even I sleep happening, I think and you know the.

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Little stickers they use when you're doing an ECG and

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 2>they stick them onto you all that sort of stuff.

0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 2>They're a bustard to get off what it almost rips

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 2>because they give you a spare of all of them

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 2>and they say happens to come off during the night,

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 2>And that wasn't going to come off during the night,

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 2>like like I just reckoned. I've got patches of skin

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 2>that went off with it, like they stick like like

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 2>nothing else. But I got through the night. Poor Fritz

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 2>wasn't happy because he kept wanting to cuddle me, and

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 2>I kept saying, no, don't get near me. You're gonna

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 2>pull out of wire.

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>And you've only got about seven chest hairs, so that

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>would have been you would have woke up with about two.

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 3>How do you know how many chest hairs Patrick has?

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I know you licked them all individually. When you open

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 1>the door and you think I'm going to go one way,

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, fuck that, I'm running through the door.

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying the thing that everybody thinks I'm not going

0:31:51.400 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 1>to say. His chest tastes amazing. Oh, it's like strawberries. Patrick,

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 1>Can you take now? My listeners are going, oh that

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 1>this explains a lot. Oh the pennies just dropped. Now

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I get it. Yeah, now I get it right?

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Right? Can we just this go to another topic? Password?

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Can you tell me? Well, I was going to ask,

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 1>sorry to be I'm actually well, I'm interested in all

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 1>of it. But I do book a lot of flights.

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, can you tell me about that?

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 2>So Google just released a little bit of a report.

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 2>They looked into flight data because obviously a lot of

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 2>it sits in Google. Now you can actually look up

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 2>airline flights directly through Google. So what they did was

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 2>they the whole lot of flight data was gathered over

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 2>four years, and that's a considerable amount. And then what

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 2>they did was they looked at when was the best

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:48.959
<v Speaker 2>time to buy tickets, what time of the week was it.

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 2>And interestingly, one of the things that came out of

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 2>it was if you're going to book a ticket, book

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 2>it on a Tuesday. And then it looked at when's

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 2>the cheapest time to fly for whatever reason? Was on

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 2>a Tuesday? For some for some reason, book a Tuesday.

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:04.800
<v Speaker 2>And then things like do you have a layover? Getting

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 2>a layover can considerably drop the price of your ticket.

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 2>But the other thing that came up if you, I mean,

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 2>this was related to a lot of the US flight data.

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 2>But if you want to buy a domestic flight in

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 2>the US, twenty one to fifty two days before you

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 2>depart is the sweet spot between booking the trip, and

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 2>then with international travel, it was fifty to one hundred

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 2>and one days before you travel. So I mean fifty

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 2>days out from going overseas. That seems like a pretty

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I booked quite a way in advance if

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 2>I was going to be booking overseas, So fifty days

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 2>isn't isn't that much? Really? Is it? It's like a

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 2>month and a half.

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that. I mean, if you look at I

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 1>think most people would book at least a month or

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>two or three ahead, wouldn't that.

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm thinking, yeah, generally, I would think that it'd

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 2>be quite a considerable amount more. But it's interesting to

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 2>note that there are sweet spot days and times to

0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:59.480
<v Speaker 2>think about booking flights, and that it can be a

0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 2>considerable amount cheaper if you look at that. So I thought, no,

0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 2>that's not too bad. So tuesdays go for a Tuesday crego.

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 2>When you're doing it, I'll.

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Tell you I don't know if there's anything in this,

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 1>but quite a few people that own businesses that I know.

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 1>In fact, Aaron also who owns the corner store on

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Hampton Street. I think it's called the Corner Cafe, not

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 1>far from my joint. He always tells me that Tuesdays

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 1>are dead. Yeah, He's like, Tuesday's the quietest day, and

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I think quite a lot of businesses it's that's a

0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 1>good day to go into a business if you want something,

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:42.280
<v Speaker 1>because they're not as busy. And I don't know, maybe

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 1>that's the case with airfares as well. Maybe people just

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 1>buy a less on that day.

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why, but it's interesting, isn't it. Yeah.

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I wonder there's a project tip in your spare time

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:56.800
<v Speaker 1>when you're not researching perimenopause and whatever.

0:34:57.320 --> 0:34:58.760
<v Speaker 3>I've got an it question.

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, I've been talking.

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 4>About this with a friend this week and we said,

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 4>let's talk to Patrick about it. The consumption of water

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:10.840
<v Speaker 4>per ai prompt.

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's actually frightening, and in fact, it's almost

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:19.919
<v Speaker 2>enough to make you reconsider whether you should be doing those,

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 2>particularly now with the video generation. You know, we're all

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 2>jumping on the bandwagon and The reality is that I

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 2>think the equivalent of doing a few seconds search is

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:37.759
<v Speaker 2>like running a microwave for a whole day in terms

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:40.320
<v Speaker 2>of what So if you do a video, so you

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 2>do an AI prompt and you say generate a Schnauzer.

0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Writer, No, I know what you mean. But when you

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 1>say the equivalent and.

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:52.400
<v Speaker 2>What energy usage? Yeah, energy usage. That's what they use

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 2>water to cool all those servers, so it's also consuming

0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:59.879
<v Speaker 2>water as well. So running a you know, your mic

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 2>away for a whole day is what it's in terms

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 2>of power consumption. That's what a single text prompt video

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 2>AI query is actually using up, which blows your mind.

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 1>You know what we can do? We can ask AI

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:15.800
<v Speaker 1>how to solve that problem?

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:23.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh dear, Actually know what, I think I've misled everybody.

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 2>A five second AI video uses as much energy as

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 2>a microwave running for an hour or more. So I

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 2>really did mislead everybody there. I just want to clarify.

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 1>That sounded good and our audience is very Yeah. No,

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:40.399
<v Speaker 1>nobody's fact checking you.

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:42.440
<v Speaker 2>You could say, oh, I know, but I feel like

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 2>I need to clarify this. So a study by MIT

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Technology Review, so then they were looking at how many

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:54.000
<v Speaker 2>duels it takes, so basic chatbot reply uses as little

0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:56.879
<v Speaker 2>as one hundred and fourteen or as much as six

0:36:56.920 --> 0:37:01.799
<v Speaker 2>thy seven hundred duels. That's between half a second and

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 2>eight seconds, which is like a standalone microwave. So a

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:09.400
<v Speaker 2>standard a standalone microwave, you just three point four million duels.

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:10.239
<v Speaker 2>There you go.

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Can you explain to me something which I'm sure is

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 1>the dumbest question, but fuck, it's me and it's technology.

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:20.160
<v Speaker 1>What's the difference between Google and Google Chrome? And if

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Google crime is better, why the fuck do we have Google?

0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 2>Well? Google Chrome is the browser, so it's like Microsoft Edge.

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Isn't Google a browser?

0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:35.720
<v Speaker 2>No, Google's a search engine. Oh yep, yep. So Chrome

0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:40.360
<v Speaker 2>is the brows in it? Yes you didn't, but you

0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:41.960
<v Speaker 2>need a browser to browse with.

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 1>What's a browser?

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 2>A browser is the you know what?

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 1>All the other dumb people like me are like, fuck,

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:50.719
<v Speaker 1>good question.

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:55.239
<v Speaker 4>Half but also going I couldn't answer that question either, yep, So.

0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 2>To actually do is queer. So if you want to

0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:00.319
<v Speaker 2>go to a website, you open up a browser. So

0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:04.080
<v Speaker 2>dubdubdub dot THEU project, project dot com dot au. You've

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 2>got to type that into a browser. Now the search

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:10.840
<v Speaker 2>engine Google sits within that, and you go to the

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Google website, so Google dot com dot AU or Google

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Google dot com, and that's where you're typing this search query.

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 2>So you need the browser to access Google in the

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:23.240
<v Speaker 2>first place. But what Google's done with the Chrome browser

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 2>is you can type directly into the search area where

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:28.960
<v Speaker 2>you would normally type in the web address, so the

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:32.680
<v Speaker 2>dubdubdub dot whatever. You can also use that as a

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:35.080
<v Speaker 2>search string. So I can type into that, you know,

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:37.960
<v Speaker 2>how many episodes of the U project has Craig done,

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 2>and I can type that directly into the top of

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:42.799
<v Speaker 2>the browser or into the Google part that appears in

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the browser. But the browser is the

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:49.440
<v Speaker 2>actual engine, like I guess, the program that you use

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:53.120
<v Speaker 2>to surf the internet to go to websites, whereas Google

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:56.120
<v Speaker 2>is the search engine that you use to do searches.

0:38:57.239 --> 0:38:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Still confused?

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, carry on, didn't don't you? Sometimes you is good

0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 2>if you want to have an anonymous search me.

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:09.920
<v Speaker 3>I feel like you're talking about that.

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:13.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean, somebody told me just because Google tracks all

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:17.399
<v Speaker 1>your shit, not that there's anything fucking you know, any

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 1>government secrets, But I'm like, I don't know that. I

0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 1>want all all my stuff, but anyway, it doesn't matter.

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I forgot about it. I used Duck duck Go three

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:26.880
<v Speaker 1>years ago for about a day and a half and

0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:28.880
<v Speaker 1>then went fuck it, I'll use Google.

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:33.600
<v Speaker 2>This sounds cool, but doesn't it Duck duck go don't know? Yeah?

0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:36.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there used to be there used to be another

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:42.160
<v Speaker 1>thing called Okay, so I think this is mister. So

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 1>you know when we send someone an SMS. Yeah, so

0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 1>we're just sending a message has to be you know,

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:55.240
<v Speaker 1>or we send something via WhatsApp, or we send something

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 1>which is we're sending them another message via a different

0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:01.359
<v Speaker 1>fucking I don't know app or whatever. Or we send

0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:04.399
<v Speaker 1>someone something by a signal. You know what signal is.

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:06.800
<v Speaker 2>It's another app, isn't it. Yeah, signals another app? Like what?

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:09.799
<v Speaker 1>So signals meant to be encrypted end to end?

0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 1>So how secure? I mean? And I know this is

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 1>not technical advice to anyone. This is just Patrick thinking are

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 1>those things secure secure?

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:26.919
<v Speaker 2>I think for the most part, the companies that say

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 2>that they're secured, they they're banking on that. I mean.

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Signalers come under fire because nefarious people use it as well.

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:35.839
<v Speaker 3>Isn't it.

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:41.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, dealers, Well it's a mainstream app. But I also

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I think it's.

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:44.440
<v Speaker 3>Users.

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean, what.

0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Do you mean? They hands up? Who uses signal?

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:53.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't even have it, so you can't

0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>accuse me. I don't even have it in my phone.

0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:59.359
<v Speaker 1>But I think I think all good drug dealers use

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:00.560
<v Speaker 1>it though, don't they.

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:02.799
<v Speaker 2>Well that's because it's encrypted end to end and it

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 2>can't be viewed by a third party. That's the whole idea,

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:08.879
<v Speaker 2>and that was always a concern of WhatsApp that when

0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 2>it got purchased by Meta that end to end encryption

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:15.200
<v Speaker 2>might be compromised. But they still say that it's end

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 2>to end encrypted. So anything that you're sending to each

0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:21.279
<v Speaker 2>other should be encrypted, and so it means it can't

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:22.280
<v Speaker 2>be read both third party.

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 1>So a friend of mine who's been on the show

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:28.239
<v Speaker 1>a bunch, Russ Jarrett, shout out to Rusty. He sent

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:32.400
<v Speaker 1>me a message the other day saying basically he wanted

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:35.080
<v Speaker 1>to know something about a motorbike in particular. So he

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:37.840
<v Speaker 1>asked me a question about a motorbike. I answered the

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 1>question about the motorbike. So this is on SMS. Then

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I started getting ads for that motorbike. Now somebody's reading

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:48.799
<v Speaker 1>that fucking message, you know what I mean?

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:52.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you have he's a question for you. So

0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 2>it was just a text conversation, that was it.

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Yep, there was no link. I hadn't done a search

0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 1>because he asked me a specific question to which I

0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 1>it's like saying, you know what's three times nine? And

0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 1>I text back twenty seven, right, So it's like there

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:09.800
<v Speaker 1>was nothing. There was no outside link or nothing. But

0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:13.640
<v Speaker 1>I started getting ads for that motorbike that I sent him.

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 1>He wanted to basically advice on maybe what bike to

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:20.279
<v Speaker 1>look at. Yeah, yeah, ads for it. And I'm like,

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:22.880
<v Speaker 1>this makes me nervous that I can't even send a

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:26.840
<v Speaker 1>message to a friend. Then somebody or some not somebody,

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 1>but something is reading in inverted commas those messages.

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, text messages by default are not encrypted, so if

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:37.399
<v Speaker 2>you send me a text, that's not encrypted, and they

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:43.600
<v Speaker 2>can technically be viewed and intercepted by other entities mobile carriers.

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:46.360
<v Speaker 2>So if you I mean, there was a suggestion a

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:48.880
<v Speaker 2>little while ago that if you had a Facebook app

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 2>on your phone, if you were running the Facebook app,

0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:54.280
<v Speaker 2>potentially that could be looking at other things that you're doing.

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 2>But it would be interesting if you did the same

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:02.880
<v Speaker 2>exercise on different phone and you WhatsApp or signal to

0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:06.320
<v Speaker 2>see whether that came up as well. But text messages

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:09.280
<v Speaker 2>are not encrypted, so if you're sending messages via text

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 2>and you should be sending them to your dearly using

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:13.399
<v Speaker 2>normally semess crap.

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I tell you who doesn't have this problem, Mary Harper,

0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:18.920
<v Speaker 1>because she writes it on a fucking spiral bound pad.

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Fantastic, And you know what, that's the best thing. I

0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:23.840
<v Speaker 2>hope she uses a fountain pen as well.

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh, she actually just plucks a feather out of a

0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 1>chicken every morning and dipped it in ink.

0:43:30.840 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 2>I annoyed all. I got to tell you this funny story.

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:34.840
<v Speaker 2>So there's a dice game that I play that my

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.759
<v Speaker 2>learnt in Canada. It's a bit like Yatzi, and I

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:39.840
<v Speaker 2>quite often play with friends because it's just an easy

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 2>one to learn and it's a bit of fun. I

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 2>had my friends sitting upstairs at my place and my

0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:49.480
<v Speaker 2>pen ran out of ink, and I was so pigheaded

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:51.760
<v Speaker 2>that I didn't want to walk downstairs to get another

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:54.640
<v Speaker 2>pen that I picked up a quill that was sitting

0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:57.239
<v Speaker 2>on my shelf and the bottle of ink, and I

0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 2>was mocked for doing that made me even more pigheaded

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:04.800
<v Speaker 2>to use a quill and ink to continue the game.

0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, you might as well get yourself a fucking horse

0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:11.239
<v Speaker 1>and buggy. You live in the middle of nowhere and

0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 1>just you could be Sherlock Holmes.

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, my poor friends, my poor friends. But I

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:20.360
<v Speaker 2>choose them and they choose me. So do you go? Hey? Passwords,

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 2>I started saying earlier, who uses the same password? Do

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 2>you use the same password for a lot of stuff?

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:29.319
<v Speaker 2>Crago No? No? Is that a real no?

0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I've been severely fucking reprimanded, chastised and beaten her about

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:38.680
<v Speaker 1>the head by Mliss. Yeah, fucking hell. It's like when

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I say she's bossy, I'm joking. But when it comes

0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:47.760
<v Speaker 1>to fucking security on the old interwebs.

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:52.640
<v Speaker 3>Passwords are neurotic awesome. Do one's breaking into anything?

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 1>She's terrifying like, she's like, you can't use that. I'm like,

0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:02.640
<v Speaker 1>but who's gonna guess Crago one, two three? No one's

0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:03.319
<v Speaker 1>guessing that.

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:05.239
<v Speaker 4>So.

0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:08.879
<v Speaker 2>A new study by cyber News looked at more than

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:13.360
<v Speaker 2>two hundred data breaches in the last twelve months between

0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:18.680
<v Speaker 2>April twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five, nineteen billion

0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:24.080
<v Speaker 2>newly exposed passwords, so ninety four percent of them were

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:29.240
<v Speaker 2>reused or duplicated, which means and that's sometimes by different users,

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:33.879
<v Speaker 2>so people are using the same passwords. So and it's

0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:36.239
<v Speaker 2>been like the people who wrote the article who did

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:39.440
<v Speaker 2>the study were saying, this is a widespread app epidemic

0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 2>of weak password reuse. Only six percent of passwords were unique,

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:49.960
<v Speaker 2>only six percent, So it means a really vulnerable to

0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:54.120
<v Speaker 2>what they call dictionary attacks, so really simple that can

0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:58.040
<v Speaker 2>be found really easily, and it means that they're out

0:45:58.080 --> 0:46:00.960
<v Speaker 2>in the wild too. That the problem is if that

0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:06.080
<v Speaker 2>data breach of nineteen nineteen billion, that's a staggering amount.

0:46:06.520 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 2>If you have, in any combination used your email and

0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:13.000
<v Speaker 2>a password, and then you've used that same password elsewhere,

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:17.760
<v Speaker 2>then that's it. You're opening yourself up to potentially being hacked.

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:20.040
<v Speaker 2>And once those details are out there, they can't be

0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 2>put back in again. So this is another staggering statistic.

0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:27.800
<v Speaker 2>The study found that millions of people still use basic

0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:32.080
<v Speaker 2>passwords that are easy to remember and obviously hackers can

0:46:32.120 --> 0:46:35.440
<v Speaker 2>guess them. It's thought that fifty six million people use

0:46:35.480 --> 0:46:37.480
<v Speaker 2>the word password as their password.

0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Can I tell you when? Did I tell you

0:46:41.600 --> 0:46:44.759
<v Speaker 1>about when somebody is what is it when they try

0:46:44.800 --> 0:46:47.360
<v Speaker 1>to black mark somebody sign to ransomware?

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:51.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah. So I got sent this email saying essentially,

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:57.040
<v Speaker 1>we've got video of you watching porn and you know,

0:46:57.600 --> 0:47:01.160
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, well you don't And they're like, if

0:47:01.200 --> 0:47:04.960
<v Speaker 1>you don't pay it was ten grand, We're going to

0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:06.799
<v Speaker 1>send it to all your friends. And I'm like, send

0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:08.080
<v Speaker 1>it to my friends. See ya.

0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:12.239
<v Speaker 2>You know. The funny thing is I got sent a

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:15.200
<v Speaker 2>similar thing, probably from the same person. But I don't

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 2>have a camera on my computer. So my computer that

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 2>I use every day, that's my work computer, doesn't have

0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:22.239
<v Speaker 2>a camera on it.

0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Well my excuse is that I'm pull my in front

0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:28.120
<v Speaker 1>of my computer. That would have been a better thing

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:33.239
<v Speaker 1>to say, Patrick, So your excuses.

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hey, you know, actually, while we're on the topic

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:45.759
<v Speaker 2>of that, there's new ransomware laws in Australia that are

0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:48.520
<v Speaker 2>coming out in a few well today, I think it's today,

0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:51.520
<v Speaker 2>the thirtieth, Yeah, today, I know, thirty first from so

0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:55.759
<v Speaker 2>tomorrow in like our physical time of recording. And what's

0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:59.160
<v Speaker 2>happening is that now if a company makes a ransomware

0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:04.080
<v Speaker 2>payment or becomes aware of one, they're legally obliged to

0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:08.840
<v Speaker 2>report it to the Australian Signals Directorate within seventy two hours.

0:48:09.080 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 2>So they have to report it. It's now become compulsory

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:14.200
<v Speaker 2>and if they don't then you could copy fine as

0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:17.200
<v Speaker 2>well from the Signals Directorate. So you have to report

0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 2>if you pay ransomware. And I know of companies firsthand

0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:25.880
<v Speaker 2>that have paid over a million dollars to ransomware because

0:48:26.239 --> 0:48:28.640
<v Speaker 2>to a ransom to people trying to ransom them because

0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:32.920
<v Speaker 2>they were doing production and the production was losing them

0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 2>more than that amount per day, so they paid it.

0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:38.719
<v Speaker 2>And so this is a company that's very has a

0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:42.439
<v Speaker 2>big footprint in Australia. So now you have to within

0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:46.640
<v Speaker 2>seventy two hours. The limitation is that you if you

0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:49.960
<v Speaker 2>run a business that earns less than three million dollars

0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:54.520
<v Speaker 2>a year, you don't have to compulsorily report it unless

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:58.160
<v Speaker 2>you're running an essential service. So that's the caveat on that.

0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:00.920
<v Speaker 2>But that's such as coming in tomorrow.

0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, good to know I won't be paying any ransomware.

0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:08.279
<v Speaker 2>Did I deflect? Really?

0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, neither will you because you don't have a camera, right,

0:49:12.560 --> 0:49:17.799
<v Speaker 1>they might go, Yeah, but we've got the audio trick.

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<v Speaker 1>How can people connect with you? Find you and join

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<v Speaker 1>in your jazzus size classes?

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<v Speaker 2>For anyone else, that's tichi, But if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>check out what I do, you could go to websites now,

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<v Speaker 2>dot com, dot au. I've got to say I had

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<v Speaker 2>the nicest phone call yesterday, Craigo. Can I indulge myself?

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<v Speaker 2>You can thank you? Well, not that sort of indulging.

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<v Speaker 1>Just kick a camera off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got a phone call from a Project well,

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<v Speaker 2>an organization called Project Hope. One of the funnest things

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<v Speaker 2>I've done this year is I do there annual report,

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<v Speaker 2>which sounds really dry and boring, but I have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of fun doing it because they're an amazing organization

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<v Speaker 2>that rescues horses in distress. Not only do they rescue

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<v Speaker 2>the horses, then they place the horses with their members,

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<v Speaker 2>and the members then look after the horse for the

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<v Speaker 2>life of the animal and report back. So they monitored

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<v Speaker 2>the health and well being of the animal because sadly,

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<v Speaker 2>through economic times and lots of mental illness that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff, there are a lot of abandoned horses in Victoria.

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<v Speaker 2>So Project Hope amazing, and the vice president contacted me

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday and she said the annual report, they had two

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<v Speaker 2>barristers in a solicitor for some reason say that it's

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<v Speaker 2>the best annual report they've ever seen. So I was

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<v Speaker 2>just so stated. So it's one of those lovely jobs

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<v Speaker 2>that I really enjoy when we do graphic work or

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<v Speaker 2>design work as well as like the website stuff we do.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's just awesome to work for charity groups, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when you can kind of sit back and feel so

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<v Speaker 2>proud of a job that you've done and feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you've really connected. And the next thing we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>do is some videos with one of the legal people

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<v Speaker 2>who's on their board and talk to them about just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, laws related to detecting animals that are in

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<v Speaker 2>distress and trying to assist their members with the things

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<v Speaker 2>to do because you can't just walk into a property

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<v Speaker 2>and seize an animal and distress even if it's in

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<v Speaker 2>a bad way, and you've got to follow certain procedures

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<v Speaker 2>and all that sort of stuff. But no, it was

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<v Speaker 2>really fun. It was just such a lovely thing. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's the type of stuff that we do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I reckon. They're the most fun things that I

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<v Speaker 2>get to do every day, you know, just working with

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<v Speaker 2>people who are really passionate about what they enjoy doing good.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we love you, because you've got a big heart.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks like a racehorse, eh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And like we'll just call you the far lap of typeople.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll say goodbye fair but for the moment. Thank you Patrick,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you TIV, Thanks guys, guys,