Speaker 1: I got a team. Welcome to the new project. Patrick's here,
Speaker 1: Tip's here, You're here. So that's all of us, so
Speaker 1: we can get underway. I will mention that Patrick and
Speaker 1: Tiff for being inappropriate, as is often the case, before
Speaker 1: we press the go button. If Patrick tell people about
Speaker 1: the video that we watched, because we can't play it,
Speaker 1: but we can direct. Firstly, Hello, Patrick, tell people about
Speaker 1: that video. They should go and watch.
Speaker 2: Les Patterson talking about getting his wife a new dog
Speaker 2: is probably the best way of explaining it is absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 2: But if you do a Google search Les Patterson new dog,
Speaker 2: but don't do it right now because we've got to show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't do it now. I actually I've got it
Speaker 1: right here. Yeah. Yeah, schnauz up dog. Yeah, that's it. Hi,
Speaker 1: tiv Hi, what were you just guzzling something?
Speaker 3: I was just guzzling a big drink of water.
Speaker 1: Has your dodgy body holding up? I know this is
Speaker 1: off topic, but you haven't been it. You haven't been
Speaker 1: at the gym. You haven't been where I trained for
Speaker 1: bloody six months? How are your broken bits?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 3: Do you know what it feels?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: On topic?
Speaker 4: Because today I was at the gym this morning, and
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about it a lot, and I'm just trying
Speaker 4: to figure it out, and I think that I think
Speaker 4: it's perimenopause. I think I just I can't recover from staff.
Speaker 4: The injuries are okay, but my inability to train and
Speaker 4: recover and.
Speaker 3: It's really yeah, it's really good. It's really a great time.
Speaker 1: I didn't expect that answer. Do you reckon? Because this
Speaker 1: is not a loaded question. I do not know the answer.
Speaker 1: But do you think that because you've trained so hard
Speaker 1: and you've been so lean for so long, and we
Speaker 1: know that women generally have a pound for pound have
Speaker 1: a high level of body for health like for health reasons,
Speaker 1: but you've been very do you reckon? That's I don't
Speaker 1: know there's a correlation, there, a relationship or none at all.
Speaker 4: It's one of the reasons that I've been doing and
Speaker 4: throwing is to oh is this hormonal? Is this my age?
Speaker 4: Is this where I'm at? Or is this long term?
Speaker 4: Doing too much? So I've changed a lot of things
Speaker 4: or you know, I've also just the whole ADHD symptom
Speaker 4: type things are really ramping.
Speaker 3: For me right now.
Speaker 4: So it's been a real but I don't know this
Speaker 4: the last few weeks, I've just gone, Yeah, I think
Speaker 4: this is hormonal and whether it the other how much
Speaker 4: the other stuff layers in. I'm sure it does, but
Speaker 4: I definitely don't feel the same on a lot of
Speaker 4: levels as I have and that's kind of felt that
Speaker 4: way for at least eighteen months to a couple of years.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's well, will be one. I hope that as
Speaker 1: much as it can sort out, sorts out, or you
Speaker 1: sort it out soon. But I'm interested to see, you know,
Speaker 1: how you go with that and what you discover. Patrick
Speaker 1: James Bonello, how's your health? Son? Are you still? We
Speaker 1: know you do your tai chi and we know you're
Speaker 1: out in the wilderness with your dog, your schnouter. How's
Speaker 1: your training and your body and your health?
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't say anything, but I know I've gone
Speaker 2: back to the gym, which has been fantastic, although I
Speaker 2: wasn't there this morning. I've only done two weeks, but
Speaker 2: you know I can my body. I don't want to
Speaker 2: be I don't want to obsess about body weight, but
Speaker 2: I've actually in two weeks time, I've dropped almost a
Speaker 2: belt size, but I haven't dropped any body weight, so
Speaker 2: I'm equating that to my muscles getting back into gear.
Speaker 2: It's freaky. I'm exactly the same weight, but I've dropped
Speaker 2: a notch on my belt and that's the only thing
Speaker 2: I can put it down. And that's just you know,
Speaker 2: four days a week of doing weights, just getting in
Speaker 2: there and pumping out the weights, very light weights to
Speaker 2: start with start with, because I had a very ongoing
Speaker 2: tennis elbow injury that just wouldn't good. It took months
Speaker 2: and months and months. So I'm very mindful of not
Speaker 2: pushing hard. But that kind of blew my mind. That's
Speaker 2: is that even possible in two weeks to have that
Speaker 2: sort of.
Speaker 1: React well, I mean, especially when you haven't been in
Speaker 1: the gym for a long time, your body's very responsive,
Speaker 1: you know, and like you have a training background. You
Speaker 1: spend a lot a lot of time training at my gym,
Speaker 1: like a long time, and Tif's got a big training background,
Speaker 1: and I think once you've been not I mean, you're
Speaker 1: in shape anyway, you're very in shape, but you're probably
Speaker 1: not in lifting heavy shit shape, so to speak.
Speaker 2: And then you go back.
Speaker 1: And your body goes like there is a thing called
Speaker 1: muscle memory, which is a little bit of bro science.
Speaker 1: But the truth is that you have if you have
Speaker 1: a training background. Let's say we're I had Patrick that
Speaker 1: had never lifted await and Patrick that had lifted weights
Speaker 1: a lot, but not for a while. The one that's
Speaker 1: lifted weights but not for a while, that one's going
Speaker 1: to adapt much quicker. Your body's going to get back.
Speaker 1: It's going to make more progress in less time, is
Speaker 1: the bottom line. But yeah, that makes sense. So I mean,
Speaker 1: I just think it's I just think everyone who can
Speaker 1: should be doing strength training when they're forty or older
Speaker 1: forty five at the latest. But and that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: a gym necessarily, or dumbells or bar bells necessarily. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of options to get strong. I got We'll
Speaker 1: get on topic in a moment, but I want to know.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question that Kelly, who
Speaker 1: Tiff coaches, who is a big listener to TIFF's show
Speaker 1: and this show. Kelly was on the show this week Patrick,
Speaker 1: who's a listener, and she asked me fifteen questions, and
Speaker 1: one of the questions that she asked was if you
Speaker 1: could only do one specific exercise or type of exercise
Speaker 1: and you couldn't do anything else, And she's like, for
Speaker 1: the rest of your life, what would it be like,
Speaker 1: or like, what would be the best thing for overall whatever?
Speaker 1: And what would your answer be, Patrick? If you could
Speaker 1: only do you know a particular if we're talking not
Speaker 1: about strolling around suburbia with the dog, but in terms
Speaker 1: of like a kind of training or workout, you can
Speaker 1: only do one thing in this hypothetical reality, Well.
Speaker 2: Do you consider tie chee your workout?
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2: Well it'd have to be tai chie, no question, because
Speaker 2: it has a longevity to it that means you there
Speaker 2: are no barriers to it. You know, there's tie chies
Speaker 2: specifically for people with arthritis, there's taie chief for people
Speaker 2: just sitting in chairs. So you can do tie cheat
Speaker 2: at any stage in your life and at any part
Speaker 2: of your life, and the ongoing health benefits because it
Speaker 2: slows the heart rate. You know. I always find this hilarious.
Speaker 2: I'll be in the middle of a ninety minute session
Speaker 2: of doing tai chie with my students and I'll get
Speaker 2: pinged by my watch saying it's time to start moving
Speaker 2: and exercise, and I've already done forty five minutes. Because
Speaker 2: you're not taxing the heart. But we know there are
Speaker 2: amazing health benefits from balance, coordination, core stability that movement.
Speaker 2: But it's passive, it's really slow movement, but there's strength
Speaker 2: and moving slow. And the best way to explain it
Speaker 2: is if you were throwing a kick or a part
Speaker 2: if if you think about it, you're throwing a kick,
Speaker 2: but if you do it in slow motion and you
Speaker 2: slow down, what would be a half second kick down
Speaker 2: to five seconds? Think about what you're having to engage
Speaker 2: in terms of your core muscles to be able to
Speaker 2: do that, and the ongoing benefit of having better core
Speaker 2: and better balance. So no, it would be unquestionably it
Speaker 2: would have to be tie.
Speaker 1: Chi perfect good answer, good answer, Tiffany and cook if
Speaker 1: you could, and of course this is never going to happen,
Speaker 1: but if if you just had to do one thing
Speaker 1: which was most beneficial for you, best all round thing
Speaker 1: that you might.
Speaker 4: Do, I'm torn because I've got a big love for
Speaker 4: strength now, but I think there's a huge argument still
Speaker 4: for boxing, Like I love watching people aging get into
Speaker 4: boxing and the cognitive benefits, the emotional benefits, there's there's
Speaker 4: just so many benefits and it's easy to engage and
Speaker 4: you can do it at a high level, you can
Speaker 4: reach peak heart rate, or you can do it slow.
Speaker 4: You can do shadow boxing and technique. You get connection
Speaker 4: with people, you develop, you develop relationships, and there's just
Speaker 4: so many dynamics you can't like. You can't get sick
Speaker 4: of it. I'm a very you like I can get
Speaker 4: sick of things easy. But there's always something different to work.
Speaker 4: And you can work on footwork, you can work on strategy,
Speaker 4: you can work on flow, you can work on fitness,
Speaker 4: you can work on power and speed.
Speaker 1: Yeah I love it, I would say, but you're excluding
Speaker 1: the getting punched in the face.
Speaker 2: Yeah you don't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't necessary And that's the thing is you can.
Speaker 4: You can do sparring if you want, but you don't
Speaker 4: have to.
Speaker 3: You can.
Speaker 4: There's a heaps of things you can do in box. Look,
Speaker 4: I just started with two clients that are over seventy.
Speaker 4: They are what They've never done anything like it in
Speaker 4: their lives, and it's so beautiful to see.
Speaker 2: Mm you Craig.
Speaker 3: Craig's taking up surfing. I heard the answer to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm not. But but I thought from an exercise,
Speaker 1: you know, exose physiology perspective. I was thinking. And actually,
Speaker 1: both of your and I'm not just saying this, both
Speaker 1: of your answers are really good, right, And I think
Speaker 1: also which I didn't, I didn't factor in as much,
Speaker 1: although we did talk about a bit, but the sociology
Speaker 1: point of view where you're connecting with other humans and
Speaker 1: all of that, which is also unbelievably good for your
Speaker 1: immune system and cellular health and brain function and dopamine
Speaker 1: and all that. Yeah, So I picked surfing the reason
Speaker 1: that I did. Why if you think about surfing, as
Speaker 1: you were talking about Patrick, so balance coordinations, spatial awareness,
Speaker 1: upper body strength, lower body strength, core strength, muscular endurance,
Speaker 1: like you've got to go from lying on your board
Speaker 1: to jump up on your board, so you need power,
Speaker 1: a bit of explosiveness, and unbelievable cardiovascular fitness. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: I just think from a like when we talk about fitness,
Speaker 1: a lot of people would probably think, can can she
Speaker 1: run three kilometers? She can, therefore she's fit, which is true,
Speaker 1: but maybe she can't do three pushups. So it's a
Speaker 1: kind of a specific kind of a or the dude
Speaker 1: who can bench press a Hyundai but can't run out
Speaker 1: of a burning building, right, which was me for much
Speaker 1: of my life.
Speaker 3: That's the crab.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't need crab walk out. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: Crab's pretty good at most things, but I don't think
Speaker 1: running distances is one of them. But now we'll get
Speaker 1: straight onto.
Speaker 2: You say one thing. Sorry, when you talked about you know,
Speaker 2: we talked about our little passions and it was great
Speaker 2: to hear Tiff. And then you said, you know, the
Speaker 2: other good thing is about connecting with people. And I
Speaker 2: think of my tied sheen. I love connecting with people.
Speaker 2: But I think when Tiff connects with people, that's a.
Speaker 1: Basically yeah, that's true. It's an ambiguous term.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to add.
Speaker 4: In twenty fourteen, I ran a program, a government funded
Speaker 4: program for women who had experienced violence, and they were
Speaker 4: all they came from a clinical psychologists referreding to the program.
Speaker 4: We did once a week for twelve weeks, just teaching
Speaker 4: them some boxing in the gym, no contact.
Speaker 3: Obviously.
Speaker 4: I had a lady and she would have been probably
Speaker 4: in her sixties. And by the third I think the
Speaker 4: third week, she came in and she looked at me.
Speaker 4: She said, I haven't had a panic attack for three days.
Speaker 4: She goes, I have them several times a day, and
Speaker 4: I blew me away because I used to train every
Speaker 4: single day and to think that one day a week
Speaker 4: in an environment like that, learning getting in your body,
Speaker 4: learning how to use your body, learning how to feel empowered,
Speaker 4: like it's the best.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think forget crago as males that we for
Speaker 2: the most part can walk down the street at night
Speaker 2: and feel totally safe, and that's not the case for
Speaker 2: half of the population. And that does my head in
Speaker 2: a bit.
Speaker 1: Mate, I agree with you broadly. Yeah, sorry, mate, Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm very aware of that because in Hampton, where I
Speaker 1: walk around, and I'm sure a lot of people think
Speaker 1: I'm like some fucking urban stalker or some fucking covert
Speaker 1: ninja who's going to steal their telly. But anyway, I'm
Speaker 1: always aware that when I'm out and I'm walking and
Speaker 1: I've got on a jacket and fucking army shorts, that
Speaker 1: I must look to some people terror fine, And if
Speaker 1: there's a woman walking towards me, I crossed the road,
Speaker 1: so I intentionally go to the other side of the
Speaker 1: road so they don't need to walk towards me feeling nervous,
Speaker 1: even though I know they're safe. They don't know they're safe,
Speaker 1: so I'm hyper aware of that and I don't I
Speaker 1: went on a walk. This is how much I think, right,
Speaker 1: I guess this is you know, my PhD is understanding
Speaker 1: how others think. Right, this is how much I think
Speaker 1: about this shit. The other day I went on a walk.
Speaker 1: I was doing my steps, and I ended up in Sandringham.
Speaker 1: I just went through all of these backstreets and I
Speaker 1: came out of a street and ended up walking past
Speaker 1: a school. I can't tell you a kids are primary school.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how uncomfortable I was because I
Speaker 1: didn't want to be a man walking, and so I
Speaker 1: walked over the other I'm like, fuck, I don't want
Speaker 1: to be here, like I don't want to be a
Speaker 1: guy walking, you know, just that obviously there's no agenda
Speaker 1: or intention, but I don't want to be. I don't
Speaker 1: want the kids to feel anything. I don't want the
Speaker 1: teachers to think anything. So I walked to the other
Speaker 1: side of the road. So I'm on the other side
Speaker 1: of the road from the school, intentionally looking straight ahead.
Speaker 1: I worry that much about how other people might experience
Speaker 1: the impact of me in whatever way, and I think
Speaker 1: that for me anyway, it's important, and I realize how
Speaker 1: I don't of course, I can't realize the way that
Speaker 1: a woman can realize, but I'm cognizant of it, and
Speaker 1: I try to be I try to help them be
Speaker 1: as comfortable as they can.
Speaker 2: You know that's admirable. I actually like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do what I can, Hey, mate, But enough
Speaker 1: about me and Tiff and you. My list from you
Speaker 1: just disappeared. I can't find it, so could you host
Speaker 1: the show please?
Speaker 2: Yesh, you're think, hey, welcome to Do you write lists
Speaker 2: when you go to the supermarket or do you pop
Speaker 2: it into your phone and do you a little shopping
Speaker 2: list on your phone? Because there's a really interesting research
Speaker 2: into the psychology behind writing a list.
Speaker 1: Well, my mother is the world's most prolific list writer
Speaker 1: on paper, and I did do it that way. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm in the phone now and I'm not proud of that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, my to do list is in my phone.
Speaker 2: So I not only write a list on my little
Speaker 2: post it notes, but I use a fountain pen to
Speaker 2: do it because I love writing. And I'm really feeling
Speaker 2: vindicated now because evidently going a bit old school is
Speaker 2: something that a lot of people do like and sixty
Speaker 2: eight percent of adults say writing helps them feel organized
Speaker 2: and in control. And now psychologists are saying that people
Speaker 2: who stick with handwriting, particularly shopping lists, aren't just clinging
Speaker 2: to a habit, they have some surprisingly positive traits. So
Speaker 2: it means you're naturally conscientious and love feeling like you're
Speaker 2: on top of things. That's one of the top things.
Speaker 2: Your memory gets a bonus workout. When you write a list.
Speaker 2: You're protecting your focus from a digital distraction, so easy
Speaker 2: when you're looking at your phone to then to get
Speaker 2: distracted by a pin or something else that's happening on
Speaker 2: your phone. And it also means that you shop with
Speaker 2: intention and you'll spend less because you're focused on getting
Speaker 2: those items, you're less likely to be distracted and buying
Speaker 2: stuff that just happens to be on special. And then
Speaker 2: there's a tactile engagement and that's always something good. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I just thought it was really interesting. And even the
Speaker 2: cognitive offloading lowers your stress. So by putting things onto
Speaker 2: a piece of paper means you're not having to worry
Speaker 2: about whether you've forgotten something, and then that way it
Speaker 2: reduces your stress level and nostalgia is kind of a
Speaker 2: good thing too, So kind of topping off the list
Speaker 2: is a nice thing, and in particular as nostalgic as
Speaker 2: it gets, writing with a fountain pin is it's nice.
Speaker 2: I get a warm, fuzzy every time I write with
Speaker 2: my pin. It's nerdy as hell, isn't it? But it's
Speaker 2: analogue as hell too.
Speaker 1: Do you think that? Do you think that things kind
Speaker 1: of go in cycles. It's like there's gonna be people going, Oh,
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm doing. I'm writing with a pen.
Speaker 1: Other people, you're fucking what, Brian, I'm writing with a
Speaker 1: pen on a pad. Oh my god. I watched this
Speaker 1: thing briefly last night. Do you know who Sir Arthur
Speaker 1: Conan Doyle is Patrick? He wrote tars and uh, I
Speaker 1: think he wrote Sherlock Holmes.
Speaker 2: Oh I thought he wrote Tarsan as well, Tiff.
Speaker 1: Can you check that name? So I think it's Sir
Speaker 1: Arthur Conan Doyle, or maybe I got.
Speaker 2: That eggar Rice Burrows. You're quite right, beggar Rice Burrows
Speaker 2: write Tows and you're right it was the Sherlock Holmes.
Speaker 1: Anyway, So I was watching a thing about him and
Speaker 1: he wrote his first you know what's funny is this
Speaker 1: is a dude who wrote Sherlock Holmes, Who's Become? And
Speaker 1: I think it was like eight ninety and they were
Speaker 1: talking about his process and they've got all these notes
Speaker 1: from writing his first book, which became a bestseller, and
Speaker 1: when it came out, everybody is like, all the critics
Speaker 1: are like, this as shit, right, this is shit, and
Speaker 1: it's poorly written and the characters are not well developed
Speaker 1: in anyway. It became the biggest thing of all time,
Speaker 1: but they were He wrote his first which became Mega
Speaker 1: I forget the name of it, in four weeks with
Speaker 1: a pen in four weeks, so he isolated himself for
Speaker 1: four weeks and obviously handwritten. It was eight ninety and
Speaker 1: I was looking at this lady who she's like this historian,
Speaker 1: and she got this other lady along that I'd never
Speaker 1: heard of, but a well known British fiction writer, and
Speaker 1: they were going through the way that it was developed,
Speaker 1: in the way that he wrote it in all these notes,
Speaker 1: and I thought, yeah, that's that's just ancient history. Now
Speaker 1: imagine how quick he could write. But I wondered if
Speaker 1: maybe writing on paper with a pen taps into a
Speaker 1: different I don't know created it.
Speaker 2: It does more. Then they're encouraging kids now at school
Speaker 2: to go back to writing with pens because it activates
Speaker 2: the brain in a totally different way when you put
Speaker 2: letters together and then form the words. When you write them,
Speaker 2: you're forming them in your head as well, and there
Speaker 2: are definitely health benefits. But you know what the good
Speaker 2: thing about Athur Conan Doyle is that if he's pen like,
Speaker 2: if he'd snapped the knieb on his pen, he could
Speaker 2: have his mustache into the bottle of ink and kept writing.
Speaker 2: You've got to look up. Everyone now has to jump
Speaker 2: in and look for a photo of Arthur Conan Doyle
Speaker 2: because he has the most epic mustache that could also
Speaker 2: be used as a pen.
Speaker 1: It is world class.
Speaker 2: So I wish I could grow a mustache like that.
Speaker 2: It's so cool.
Speaker 1: I've been trying to open your document over here, which
Speaker 1: is I can just keep going, you know, dude, that's
Speaker 1: all right, all right, you keep going, you keep hosting.
Speaker 1: I've got it open now.
Speaker 2: But Jacob Space the Final Frontier. This is really interesting.
Speaker 2: China has been as the first nation in the world
Speaker 2: to fire a laser at the Moon, which was directly
Speaker 2: pinpointed one of their satellites that's orbiting the Moon. Now
Speaker 2: you think, yeah, well, you know that's not much. The
Speaker 2: Moon's pretty big, big target to go for. Well, it
Speaker 2: was very specific and in fact, aiming at the Moon
Speaker 2: is the equivalent I think they were saying the equivalent
Speaker 2: of hitting a hair from ten kilometers away, right, So
Speaker 2: if you're trying at laser point and shoot a hair
Speaker 2: from eight from ten kilometers away, that's the equivalent. So
Speaker 2: this is pretty epic because they're hoping and there's kind
Speaker 2: of another space race going on at the moment this
Speaker 2: time it's kind of China and the US, and there's
Speaker 2: a lot to be said for, you know, getting back
Speaker 2: to the Moon, and they're talking this sort of technology
Speaker 2: will help with autonomous rovers and things like that that
Speaker 2: then could be remotely controlled if needed, and they're talking
Speaker 2: about exploring more of the polar ends of the Moon,
Speaker 2: and China's showing a lot of interest, and of course
Speaker 2: the Americans are saying they want to go back to
Speaker 2: the Moon as well. But this is a real first.
Speaker 2: But that's amazing to be able to do that. That
Speaker 2: that pin accuracy was pretty pretty epic stuff, and it
Speaker 2: really highlights how advanced, you know, China is when it
Speaker 2: comes to, you know, the development of technology, because you know,
Speaker 2: we saw this will move kids. I don't know, this
Speaker 2: is a terrible thing to say, but we used to
Speaker 2: you know, when someone talked about a transistor radio, you'd
Speaker 2: say Japanese junk and it was a term that got
Speaker 2: thrown around a lot. And you saw that the Japanese
Speaker 2: went from being the imitators to the innovators, and China's
Speaker 2: doing exactly the same things. So China was really good
Speaker 2: at copying stuff. But now it's taken the next step
Speaker 2: and it's you know, it's developing and using some of
Speaker 2: the world's best drones. And in this case you can
Speaker 2: see you know, space and getting out and exploring space
Speaker 2: and going back to the moon, and China's really got
Speaker 2: it and in its sites at the moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's you're exactly right. I remember when
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, way before Tiff was a kid,
Speaker 1: but yeah, we thought the Japanese things were kind of crap,
Speaker 1: and then they became good. Then they became almost like
Speaker 1: leading the charge for like well built, but you know
Speaker 1: price like well priced. And then remember when Korean car
Speaker 1: cars came outside Hyundai and Kia and all of that,
Speaker 1: and we're like, they were terrible. I mean, they were
Speaker 1: just terrible, and people used to joke about Korean cars
Speaker 1: and now they're amongst the biggest sellers. And the build quality,
Speaker 1: I mean, I've got one, I've got Hyundai. It's fucking amazing.
Speaker 1: It's they're incredible, and the same you're right with Chinese.
Speaker 1: I remember when the first Chinese utes landed here about
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, they would tear they're very, very agricultural,
Speaker 1: and now it's, yeah, it's incredible, it's incredible. Under technology
Speaker 1: is it's getting cheaper and cheaper and more and more
Speaker 1: accessible to mate.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing. I was going to talk about
Speaker 2: this later, but China now says that they've solved the
Speaker 2: EV battery problem, and they've got parody between filling up
Speaker 2: a battery and what it would be to fill up
Speaker 2: a tank of fuel, so effectively, what they're saying is
Speaker 2: this is kind of ratio they talk about. You know,
Speaker 2: if you're filling up the tank, how many kilometers can
Speaker 2: you get on say ten leaders or a leader of fuel.
Speaker 2: And now the Chinese are saying that they can get
Speaker 2: the equivalent range from one minute of filling up via
Speaker 2: an electric vehicle in exactly the same way that it
Speaker 2: would be one minute of fuel going into your car.
Speaker 2: They've got parody for the first time ever. This has
Speaker 2: been kind of a bit of a holy grail of
Speaker 2: ev tech to be able to fill up a battery
Speaker 2: in the same amount of time. So five minutes to
Speaker 2: fill a car five with normal fuel and ice engine
Speaker 2: and in internal combustion engine, and five minutes to fill
Speaker 2: an EV in the Chinese record that they've cracked it
Speaker 2: on that one, which is pretty amazing, So you know,
Speaker 2: you don't have those long wait times to be able
Speaker 2: to get that extra five hundred kilometers of distance in
Speaker 2: just five minutes.
Speaker 1: I saw this thing the other day, this young African
Speaker 1: American dude. He's like a scientist inventor, like genius young,
Speaker 1: I don't know how old, but young, like earlier than
Speaker 1: early twenties, like under twenty five. And he's built, he's built,
Speaker 1: he's created fuel out of plastic and you'll see the
Speaker 1: whole thing, right, and this is not a joke and
Speaker 1: it's not a like And and then he was at
Speaker 1: this launch where he was putting the fuel that he
Speaker 1: made from plastic into a prato into a Toyota prato,
Speaker 1: and all of the comments were like they were either
Speaker 1: like you're fucking amazing, that's incredible, or get some security
Speaker 1: and people need to look after this man, protect this man,
Speaker 1: because it seemed that, you know, there's been a history
Speaker 1: of people who invented shit that was going to change
Speaker 1: the world who mysteriously died Patrick.
Speaker 2: Wasn't there an Australian guy years ago that.
Speaker 1: He built a steam engine and engine powered by water. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well they could run cars. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: Well the interesting thing is, when you think about it,
Speaker 2: plastic is a petroleum byproduct. Yes, so if you could
Speaker 2: convert it back, that makes a lot of sense. I mean,
Speaker 2: I've got no idea how he did it, but that's
Speaker 2: that's phenomenal, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Oh well, we won't be having that discussion. I mean,
Speaker 1: and you think about like over the years, I think
Speaker 1: they built I don't know if this is true, but
Speaker 1: I grew up think of being told this that this
Speaker 1: guy built a car tire that could do a million miles.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So you know, so all the car manufacturers went fuck
Speaker 1: that and then bought the rights to that and then
Speaker 1: put it in a vault somewhere and went, fuck that tie.
Speaker 1: We're never selling that. Yeah you hear it, You're never
Speaker 1: selling another pair of ties.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, you hit that stuff all the time. But look,
Speaker 2: I don't know it would be to solve the world's
Speaker 2: fuel crisis issue in terms of you know, the kind
Speaker 2: of pollutants and you know the kind of ongoing you know,
Speaker 2: the cabals that seem to control the oil prices and
Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff. That would be pretty amazing,
Speaker 2: wouldn't It also.
Speaker 1: Pretty unlikely when you think about It's like, and I
Speaker 1: know this sounds conspiracy theory, and I'm the last conspiracy
Speaker 1: theorist in the world, but when you think about how
Speaker 1: much money is made out of oil, how much money
Speaker 1: is made out of big farmer, Well, if we found
Speaker 1: really simple cures, or really simple solutions, or really planet friendly,
Speaker 1: human friendly, immune system friendly cures from or solutions that
Speaker 1: involved nature that didn't make anyone a lot of money, well,
Speaker 1: then a lot of industries, a lot of organizations are
Speaker 1: going broke. So you know, as much as it sounds bad,
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it's in like people's sickness is
Speaker 1: very profitable. So you know, there are people are some
Speaker 1: organizations are obviously financially incentivized for people to stay sick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's that's just a fact.
Speaker 2: I remember once being told by somebody. I don't think
Speaker 2: it was whilst I was in China, but it was
Speaker 2: related to China. And if you were the person who
Speaker 2: was the medical person in a village or in a town,
Speaker 2: and it was your job to be their doctor, you
Speaker 2: got paid when everybody was healthy, but if they got sick,
Speaker 2: you stop getting paid. That the mindset being is you're
Speaker 2: there to keep people healthy, not to you know, have
Speaker 2: to then rush around and fix them when they don't work.
Speaker 2: So there's there's a totally different mindset to the Eastern
Speaker 2: philosophy or that philosophy of being healthy. And it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, a medical person keeps you healthy, doesn't fix
Speaker 2: what's already been broken, so don't let it get broken
Speaker 2: in the first place. I love that mindset that you
Speaker 2: know we work towards, and I guess you guys are
Speaker 2: a testament to that. You know, you both tried really
Speaker 2: hard to keep healthy all your lives, and it's something
Speaker 2: that you know, I guess I have too. To that
Speaker 2: to a degree. And so the more that we work
Speaker 2: towards keeping healthy for as long as we can, I
Speaker 2: think that's the most important thing.
Speaker 1: Well, I think us, not that us three are better
Speaker 1: than anyone else, but we're probably unicorns because none of
Speaker 1: us drink, none of us smoke, none of us do drugs.
Speaker 1: We're all fun times, do you? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Not often?
Speaker 1: But how many glasses of alcohol would you have a year?
Speaker 4: Ah?
Speaker 3: Not many? I don't know, but not many.
Speaker 2: I reckon about twelve.
Speaker 3: You know why, because it's messaged in my sleep. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and sleep's important, and then.
Speaker 1: We can find so if we can find you some
Speaker 1: booze that makes you sleep, you're going to be all in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can still get deep sleep.
Speaker 2: You about sleep? I did a sleep study this week
Speaker 2: at home. Go on, Oh no, Well, because I've had
Speaker 2: issues with my sleeping and so I decided to do
Speaker 2: a home sleep study. You know, you get your doctor
Speaker 2: to refer you and then they attach all these games.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. It took me. Twenty minutes. And
Speaker 2: I'm pretty tech savvy, but I'm looking at the mirror
Speaker 2: trying to attach the stuff. You know, you shove things
Speaker 2: up your those and you're putting electrodes on your head
Speaker 2: and then on your chest and it measures your heart
Speaker 2: rate you're breathing and all that sort of stuff. It
Speaker 2: was pretty full on with all that. It was probably
Speaker 2: the worst night of sleep I've ever had. I can't
Speaker 2: wait for the results to come in.
Speaker 1: That is such a valid point, like here, let's see
Speaker 1: how let's see a tip all night sleep. But what
Speaker 1: we'll do is we'll cover you in all their shit
Speaker 1: so you can't have a typical night's sleep, and then
Speaker 1: we'll use the data from that and call that your standard.
Speaker 1: Well that's fucking ridiculous. Well, you know what you need.
Speaker 1: You need a team of nurses in there, male or female.
Speaker 1: You can have blokes and you know, just sitting in
Speaker 1: chairs with no patching, just watching. That's not creepy at all.
Speaker 1: And for you they can all be you know, thirty
Speaker 1: to thirty five and well built. I'm just saying, not
Speaker 1: that I've ever designed a sleep study, but you're welcome
Speaker 1: world there.
Speaker 2: It is lounds like you're the blake to speak to now.
Speaker 1: Now, how much more excited are you about that sleep study,
Speaker 1: yester than what I did?
Speaker 3: Even I sleep happening, I think and you know the.
Speaker 2: Little stickers they use when you're doing an ECG and
Speaker 2: they stick them onto you all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: They're a bustard to get off what it almost rips
Speaker 2: because they give you a spare of all of them
Speaker 2: and they say happens to come off during the night,
Speaker 2: And that wasn't going to come off during the night,
Speaker 2: like like I just reckoned. I've got patches of skin
Speaker 2: that went off with it, like they stick like like
Speaker 2: nothing else. But I got through the night. Poor Fritz
Speaker 2: wasn't happy because he kept wanting to cuddle me, and
Speaker 2: I kept saying, no, don't get near me. You're gonna
Speaker 2: pull out of wire.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: And you've only got about seven chest hairs, so that
Speaker 1: would have been you would have woke up with about two.
Speaker 3: How do you know how many chest hairs Patrick has?
Speaker 1: I know you licked them all individually. When you open
Speaker 1: the door and you think I'm going to go one way,
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, fuck that, I'm running through the door.
Speaker 1: I'm saying the thing that everybody thinks I'm not going
Speaker 1: to say. His chest tastes amazing. Oh, it's like strawberries. Patrick,
Speaker 1: Can you take now? My listeners are going, oh that
Speaker 1: this explains a lot. Oh the pennies just dropped. Now
Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, now I get it right?
Speaker 2: Right? Can we just this go to another topic? Password?
Speaker 1: Can you tell me? Well, I was going to ask,
Speaker 1: sorry to be I'm actually well, I'm interested in all
Speaker 1: of it. But I do book a lot of flights.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, can you tell me about that?
Speaker 2: So Google just released a little bit of a report.
Speaker 2: They looked into flight data because obviously a lot of
Speaker 2: it sits in Google. Now you can actually look up
Speaker 2: airline flights directly through Google. So what they did was
Speaker 2: they the whole lot of flight data was gathered over
Speaker 2: four years, and that's a considerable amount. And then what
Speaker 2: they did was they looked at when was the best
Speaker 2: time to buy tickets, what time of the week was it.
Speaker 2: And interestingly, one of the things that came out of
Speaker 2: it was if you're going to book a ticket, book
Speaker 2: it on a Tuesday. And then it looked at when's
Speaker 2: the cheapest time to fly for whatever reason? Was on
Speaker 2: a Tuesday? For some for some reason, book a Tuesday.
Speaker 2: And then things like do you have a layover? Getting
Speaker 2: a layover can considerably drop the price of your ticket.
Speaker 2: But the other thing that came up if you, I mean,
Speaker 2: this was related to a lot of the US flight data.
Speaker 2: But if you want to buy a domestic flight in
Speaker 2: the US, twenty one to fifty two days before you
Speaker 2: depart is the sweet spot between booking the trip, and
Speaker 2: then with international travel, it was fifty to one hundred
Speaker 2: and one days before you travel. So I mean fifty
Speaker 2: days out from going overseas. That seems like a pretty
Speaker 2: I mean, I booked quite a way in advance if
Speaker 2: I was going to be booking overseas, So fifty days
Speaker 2: isn't isn't that much? Really? Is it? It's like a
Speaker 2: month and a half.
Speaker 1: I think that. I mean, if you look at I
Speaker 1: think most people would book at least a month or
Speaker 1: two or three ahead, wouldn't that.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm thinking, yeah, generally, I would think that it'd
Speaker 2: be quite a considerable amount more. But it's interesting to
Speaker 2: note that there are sweet spot days and times to
Speaker 2: think about booking flights, and that it can be a
Speaker 2: considerable amount cheaper if you look at that. So I thought, no,
Speaker 2: that's not too bad. So tuesdays go for a Tuesday crego.
Speaker 2: When you're doing it, I'll.
Speaker 1: Tell you I don't know if there's anything in this,
Speaker 1: but quite a few people that own businesses that I know.
Speaker 1: In fact, Aaron also who owns the corner store on
Speaker 1: Hampton Street. I think it's called the Corner Cafe, not
Speaker 1: far from my joint. He always tells me that Tuesdays
Speaker 1: are dead. Yeah, He's like, Tuesday's the quietest day, and
Speaker 1: I think quite a lot of businesses it's that's a
Speaker 1: good day to go into a business if you want something,
Speaker 1: because they're not as busy. And I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: that's the case with airfares as well. Maybe people just
Speaker 1: buy a less on that day.
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but it's interesting, isn't it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wonder there's a project tip in your spare time
Speaker 1: when you're not researching perimenopause and whatever.
Speaker 3: I've got an it question.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I've been talking.
Speaker 4: About this with a friend this week and we said,
Speaker 4: let's talk to Patrick about it. The consumption of water
Speaker 4: per ai prompt.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's actually frightening, and in fact, it's almost
Speaker 2: enough to make you reconsider whether you should be doing those,
Speaker 2: particularly now with the video generation. You know, we're all
Speaker 2: jumping on the bandwagon and The reality is that I
Speaker 2: think the equivalent of doing a few seconds search is
Speaker 2: like running a microwave for a whole day in terms
Speaker 2: of what So if you do a video, so you
Speaker 2: do an AI prompt and you say generate a Schnauzer.
Speaker 1: Writer, No, I know what you mean. But when you
Speaker 1: say the equivalent and.
Speaker 2: What energy usage? Yeah, energy usage. That's what they use
Speaker 2: water to cool all those servers, so it's also consuming
Speaker 2: water as well. So running a you know, your mic
Speaker 2: away for a whole day is what it's in terms
Speaker 2: of power consumption. That's what a single text prompt video
Speaker 2: AI query is actually using up, which blows your mind.
Speaker 1: You know what we can do? We can ask AI
Speaker 1: how to solve that problem?
Speaker 2: Oh dear, Actually know what, I think I've misled everybody.
Speaker 2: A five second AI video uses as much energy as
Speaker 2: a microwave running for an hour or more. So I
Speaker 2: really did mislead everybody there. I just want to clarify.
Speaker 1: That sounded good and our audience is very Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: nobody's fact checking you.
Speaker 2: You could say, oh, I know, but I feel like
Speaker 2: I need to clarify this. So a study by MIT
Speaker 2: Technology Review, so then they were looking at how many
Speaker 2: duels it takes, so basic chatbot reply uses as little
Speaker 2: as one hundred and fourteen or as much as six
Speaker 2: thy seven hundred duels. That's between half a second and
Speaker 2: eight seconds, which is like a standalone microwave. So a
Speaker 2: standard a standalone microwave, you just three point four million duels.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: Can you explain to me something which I'm sure is
Speaker 1: the dumbest question, but fuck, it's me and it's technology.
Speaker 1: What's the difference between Google and Google Chrome? And if
Speaker 1: Google crime is better, why the fuck do we have Google?
Speaker 2: Well? Google Chrome is the browser, so it's like Microsoft Edge.
Speaker 1: Isn't Google a browser?
Speaker 2: No, Google's a search engine. Oh yep, yep. So Chrome
Speaker 2: is the brows in it? Yes you didn't, but you
Speaker 2: need a browser to browse with.
Speaker 1: What's a browser?
Speaker 2: A browser is the you know what?
Speaker 1: All the other dumb people like me are like, fuck,
Speaker 1: good question.
Speaker 4: Half but also going I couldn't answer that question either, yep, So.
Speaker 2: To actually do is queer. So if you want to
Speaker 2: go to a website, you open up a browser. So
Speaker 2: dubdubdub dot THEU project, project dot com dot au. You've
Speaker 2: got to type that into a browser. Now the search
Speaker 2: engine Google sits within that, and you go to the
Speaker 2: Google website, so Google dot com dot AU or Google
Speaker 2: Google dot com, and that's where you're typing this search query.
Speaker 2: So you need the browser to access Google in the
Speaker 2: first place. But what Google's done with the Chrome browser
Speaker 2: is you can type directly into the search area where
Speaker 2: you would normally type in the web address, so the
Speaker 2: dubdubdub dot whatever. You can also use that as a
Speaker 2: search string. So I can type into that, you know,
Speaker 2: how many episodes of the U project has Craig done,
Speaker 2: and I can type that directly into the top of
Speaker 2: the browser or into the Google part that appears in
Speaker 2: the middle of the browser. But the browser is the
Speaker 2: actual engine, like I guess, the program that you use
Speaker 2: to surf the internet to go to websites, whereas Google
Speaker 2: is the search engine that you use to do searches.
Speaker 1: Still confused?
Speaker 2: Okay, carry on, didn't don't you? Sometimes you is good
Speaker 2: if you want to have an anonymous search me.
Speaker 3: I feel like you're talking about that.
Speaker 1: I mean, somebody told me just because Google tracks all
Speaker 1: your shit, not that there's anything fucking you know, any
Speaker 1: government secrets, But I'm like, I don't know that. I
Speaker 1: want all all my stuff, but anyway, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I forgot about it. I used Duck duck Go three
Speaker 1: years ago for about a day and a half and
Speaker 1: then went fuck it, I'll use Google.
Speaker 2: This sounds cool, but doesn't it Duck duck go don't know? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there used to be there used to be another
Speaker 1: thing called Okay, so I think this is mister. So
Speaker 1: you know when we send someone an SMS. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: we're just sending a message has to be you know,
Speaker 1: or we send something via WhatsApp, or we send something
Speaker 1: which is we're sending them another message via a different
Speaker 1: fucking I don't know app or whatever. Or we send
Speaker 1: someone something by a signal. You know what signal is.
Speaker 2: It's another app, isn't it. Yeah, signals another app? Like what?
Speaker 1: So signals meant to be encrypted end to end?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So how secure? I mean? And I know this is
Speaker 1: not technical advice to anyone. This is just Patrick thinking are
Speaker 1: those things secure secure?
Speaker 2: I think for the most part, the companies that say
Speaker 2: that they're secured, they they're banking on that. I mean.
Speaker 2: Signalers come under fire because nefarious people use it as well.
Speaker 3: Isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dealers, Well it's a mainstream app. But I also
Speaker 1: I think it's.
Speaker 3: Users.
Speaker 1: What do you mean, what.
Speaker 2: Do you mean? They hands up? Who uses signal?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't even have it, so you can't
Speaker 1: accuse me. I don't even have it in my phone.
Speaker 1: But I think I think all good drug dealers use
Speaker 1: it though, don't they.
Speaker 2: Well that's because it's encrypted end to end and it
Speaker 2: can't be viewed by a third party. That's the whole idea,
Speaker 2: and that was always a concern of WhatsApp that when
Speaker 2: it got purchased by Meta that end to end encryption
Speaker 2: might be compromised. But they still say that it's end
Speaker 2: to end encrypted. So anything that you're sending to each
Speaker 2: other should be encrypted, and so it means it can't
Speaker 2: be read both third party.
Speaker 1: So a friend of mine who's been on the show
Speaker 1: a bunch, Russ Jarrett, shout out to Rusty. He sent
Speaker 1: me a message the other day saying basically he wanted
Speaker 1: to know something about a motorbike in particular. So he
Speaker 1: asked me a question about a motorbike. I answered the
Speaker 1: question about the motorbike. So this is on SMS. Then
Speaker 1: I started getting ads for that motorbike. Now somebody's reading
Speaker 1: that fucking message, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have he's a question for you. So
Speaker 2: it was just a text conversation, that was it.
Speaker 1: Yep, there was no link. I hadn't done a search
Speaker 1: because he asked me a specific question to which I
Speaker 1: it's like saying, you know what's three times nine? And
Speaker 1: I text back twenty seven, right, So it's like there
Speaker 1: was nothing. There was no outside link or nothing. But
Speaker 1: I started getting ads for that motorbike that I sent him.
Speaker 1: He wanted to basically advice on maybe what bike to
Speaker 1: look at. Yeah, yeah, ads for it. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: this makes me nervous that I can't even send a
Speaker 1: message to a friend. Then somebody or some not somebody,
Speaker 1: but something is reading in inverted commas those messages.
Speaker 2: Well, text messages by default are not encrypted, so if
Speaker 2: you send me a text, that's not encrypted, and they
Speaker 2: can technically be viewed and intercepted by other entities mobile carriers.
Speaker 2: So if you I mean, there was a suggestion a
Speaker 2: little while ago that if you had a Facebook app
Speaker 2: on your phone, if you were running the Facebook app,
Speaker 2: potentially that could be looking at other things that you're doing.
Speaker 2: But it would be interesting if you did the same
Speaker 2: exercise on different phone and you WhatsApp or signal to
Speaker 2: see whether that came up as well. But text messages
Speaker 2: are not encrypted, so if you're sending messages via text
Speaker 2: and you should be sending them to your dearly using
Speaker 2: normally semess crap.
Speaker 1: I tell you who doesn't have this problem, Mary Harper,
Speaker 1: because she writes it on a fucking spiral bound pad.
Speaker 2: Fantastic, And you know what, that's the best thing. I
Speaker 2: hope she uses a fountain pen as well.
Speaker 1: Oh, she actually just plucks a feather out of a
Speaker 1: chicken every morning and dipped it in ink.
Speaker 2: I annoyed all. I got to tell you this funny story.
Speaker 2: So there's a dice game that I play that my
Speaker 2: learnt in Canada. It's a bit like Yatzi, and I
Speaker 2: quite often play with friends because it's just an easy
Speaker 2: one to learn and it's a bit of fun. I
Speaker 2: had my friends sitting upstairs at my place and my
Speaker 2: pen ran out of ink, and I was so pigheaded
Speaker 2: that I didn't want to walk downstairs to get another
Speaker 2: pen that I picked up a quill that was sitting
Speaker 2: on my shelf and the bottle of ink, and I
Speaker 2: was mocked for doing that made me even more pigheaded
Speaker 2: to use a quill and ink to continue the game.
Speaker 1: Well, you might as well get yourself a fucking horse
Speaker 1: and buggy. You live in the middle of nowhere and
Speaker 1: just you could be Sherlock Holmes.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my poor friends, my poor friends. But I
Speaker 2: choose them and they choose me. So do you go? Hey? Passwords,
Speaker 2: I started saying earlier, who uses the same password? Do
Speaker 2: you use the same password for a lot of stuff?
Speaker 2: Crago No? No? Is that a real no?
Speaker 1: I've been severely fucking reprimanded, chastised and beaten her about
Speaker 1: the head by Mliss. Yeah, fucking hell. It's like when
Speaker 1: I say she's bossy, I'm joking. But when it comes
Speaker 1: to fucking security on the old interwebs.
Speaker 3: Passwords are neurotic awesome. Do one's breaking into anything?
Speaker 1: She's terrifying like, she's like, you can't use that. I'm like,
Speaker 1: but who's gonna guess Crago one, two three? No one's
Speaker 1: guessing that.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 2: A new study by cyber News looked at more than
Speaker 2: two hundred data breaches in the last twelve months between
Speaker 2: April twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five, nineteen billion
Speaker 2: newly exposed passwords, so ninety four percent of them were
Speaker 2: reused or duplicated, which means and that's sometimes by different users,
Speaker 2: so people are using the same passwords. So and it's
Speaker 2: been like the people who wrote the article who did
Speaker 2: the study were saying, this is a widespread app epidemic
Speaker 2: of weak password reuse. Only six percent of passwords were unique,
Speaker 2: only six percent, So it means a really vulnerable to
Speaker 2: what they call dictionary attacks, so really simple that can
Speaker 2: be found really easily, and it means that they're out
Speaker 2: in the wild too. That the problem is if that
Speaker 2: data breach of nineteen nineteen billion, that's a staggering amount.
Speaker 2: If you have, in any combination used your email and
Speaker 2: a password, and then you've used that same password elsewhere,
Speaker 2: then that's it. You're opening yourself up to potentially being hacked.
Speaker 2: And once those details are out there, they can't be
Speaker 2: put back in again. So this is another staggering statistic.
Speaker 2: The study found that millions of people still use basic
Speaker 2: passwords that are easy to remember and obviously hackers can
Speaker 2: guess them. It's thought that fifty six million people use
Speaker 2: the word password as their password.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Can I tell you when? Did I tell you
Speaker 1: about when somebody is what is it when they try
Speaker 1: to black mark somebody sign to ransomware?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. So I got sent this email saying essentially,
Speaker 1: we've got video of you watching porn and you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well you don't And they're like, if
Speaker 1: you don't pay it was ten grand, We're going to
Speaker 1: send it to all your friends. And I'm like, send
Speaker 1: it to my friends. See ya.
Speaker 2: You know. The funny thing is I got sent a
Speaker 2: similar thing, probably from the same person. But I don't
Speaker 2: have a camera on my computer. So my computer that
Speaker 2: I use every day, that's my work computer, doesn't have
Speaker 2: a camera on it.
Speaker 1: Well my excuse is that I'm pull my in front
Speaker 1: of my computer. That would have been a better thing
Speaker 1: to say, Patrick, So your excuses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, you know, actually, while we're on the topic
Speaker 2: of that, there's new ransomware laws in Australia that are
Speaker 2: coming out in a few well today, I think it's today,
Speaker 2: the thirtieth, Yeah, today, I know, thirty first from so
Speaker 2: tomorrow in like our physical time of recording. And what's
Speaker 2: happening is that now if a company makes a ransomware
Speaker 2: payment or becomes aware of one, they're legally obliged to
Speaker 2: report it to the Australian Signals Directorate within seventy two hours.
Speaker 2: So they have to report it. It's now become compulsory
Speaker 2: and if they don't then you could copy fine as
Speaker 2: well from the Signals Directorate. So you have to report
Speaker 2: if you pay ransomware. And I know of companies firsthand
Speaker 2: that have paid over a million dollars to ransomware because
Speaker 2: to a ransom to people trying to ransom them because
Speaker 2: they were doing production and the production was losing them
Speaker 2: more than that amount per day, so they paid it.
Speaker 2: And so this is a company that's very has a
Speaker 2: big footprint in Australia. So now you have to within
Speaker 2: seventy two hours. The limitation is that you if you
Speaker 2: run a business that earns less than three million dollars
Speaker 2: a year, you don't have to compulsorily report it unless
Speaker 2: you're running an essential service. So that's the caveat on that.
Speaker 2: But that's such as coming in tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Well, good to know I won't be paying any ransomware.
Speaker 2: Did I deflect? Really?
Speaker 1: Well, neither will you because you don't have a camera, right,
Speaker 1: they might go, Yeah, but we've got the audio trick.
Speaker 1: How can people connect with you? Find you and join
Speaker 1: in your jazzus size classes?
Speaker 2: For anyone else, that's tichi, But if you want to
Speaker 2: check out what I do, you could go to websites now,
Speaker 2: dot com, dot au. I've got to say I had
Speaker 2: the nicest phone call yesterday, Craigo. Can I indulge myself?
Speaker 2: You can thank you? Well, not that sort of indulging.
Speaker 1: Just kick a camera off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a phone call from a Project well,
Speaker 2: an organization called Project Hope. One of the funnest things
Speaker 2: I've done this year is I do there annual report,
Speaker 2: which sounds really dry and boring, but I have a
Speaker 2: lot of fun doing it because they're an amazing organization
Speaker 2: that rescues horses in distress. Not only do they rescue
Speaker 2: the horses, then they place the horses with their members,
Speaker 2: and the members then look after the horse for the
Speaker 2: life of the animal and report back. So they monitored
Speaker 2: the health and well being of the animal because sadly,
Speaker 2: through economic times and lots of mental illness that sort
Speaker 2: of stuff, there are a lot of abandoned horses in Victoria.
Speaker 2: So Project Hope amazing, and the vice president contacted me
Speaker 2: yesterday and she said the annual report, they had two
Speaker 2: barristers in a solicitor for some reason say that it's
Speaker 2: the best annual report they've ever seen. So I was
Speaker 2: just so stated. So it's one of those lovely jobs
Speaker 2: that I really enjoy when we do graphic work or
Speaker 2: design work as well as like the website stuff we do.
Speaker 2: But it's just awesome to work for charity groups, you know,
Speaker 2: when you can kind of sit back and feel so
Speaker 2: proud of a job that you've done and feel like
Speaker 2: you've really connected. And the next thing we're going to
Speaker 2: do is some videos with one of the legal people
Speaker 2: who's on their board and talk to them about just
Speaker 2: you know, laws related to detecting animals that are in
Speaker 2: distress and trying to assist their members with the things
Speaker 2: to do because you can't just walk into a property
Speaker 2: and seize an animal and distress even if it's in
Speaker 2: a bad way, and you've got to follow certain procedures
Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff. But no, it was
Speaker 2: really fun. It was just such a lovely thing. So,
Speaker 2: you know, that's the type of stuff that we do.
Speaker 2: And I reckon. They're the most fun things that I
Speaker 2: get to do every day, you know, just working with
Speaker 2: people who are really passionate about what they enjoy doing good.
Speaker 1: That's why we love you, because you've got a big heart.
Speaker 2: Thanks like a racehorse, eh yeah.
Speaker 1: And like we'll just call you the far lap of typeople.
Speaker 1: We'll say goodbye fair but for the moment. Thank you Patrick,
Speaker 1: thank you TIV, Thanks guys, guys,