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Speaker 1: Tip's here, You're here. So that's all of us, so

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Speaker 1: we can get underway. I will mention that Patrick and

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Speaker 1: Tiff for being inappropriate, as is often the case, before

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Speaker 1: we press the go button. If Patrick tell people about

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Speaker 1: the video that we watched, because we can't play it,

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Speaker 1: but we can direct. Firstly, Hello, Patrick, tell people about

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Speaker 1: that video. They should go and watch.

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Speaker 2: Les Patterson talking about getting his wife a new dog

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Speaker 2: is probably the best way of explaining it is absolutely hilarious.

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Speaker 2: But if you do a Google search Les Patterson new dog,

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Speaker 2: but don't do it right now because we've got to show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't do it now. I actually I've got it

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Speaker 1: right here. Yeah. Yeah, schnauz up dog. Yeah, that's it. Hi,

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Speaker 1: tiv Hi, what were you just guzzling something?

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Speaker 3: I was just guzzling a big drink of water.

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Speaker 1: Has your dodgy body holding up? I know this is

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Speaker 1: off topic, but you haven't been it. You haven't been

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Speaker 1: at the gym. You haven't been where I trained for

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Speaker 1: bloody six months? How are your broken bits?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 3: Do you know what it feels?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: On topic?

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Speaker 4: Because today I was at the gym this morning, and

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking about it a lot, and I'm just trying

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Speaker 4: it's perimenopause. I think I just I can't recover from staff.

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Speaker 4: The injuries are okay, but my inability to train and

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Speaker 3: It's really yeah, it's really good. It's really a great time.

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Speaker 1: I didn't expect that answer. Do you reckon? Because this

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Speaker 1: is not a loaded question. I do not know the answer.

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Speaker 1: But do you think that because you've trained so hard

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Speaker 1: and you've been so lean for so long, and we

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Speaker 1: but you've been very do you reckon? That's I don't

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Speaker 1: know there's a correlation, there, a relationship or none at all.

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Speaker 4: It's one of the reasons that I've been doing and

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Speaker 4: throwing is to oh is this hormonal? Is this my age?

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Speaker 4: Is this where I'm at? Or is this long term?

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Speaker 4: Doing too much? So I've changed a lot of things

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Speaker 4: or you know, I've also just the whole ADHD symptom

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Speaker 4: type things are really ramping.

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Speaker 3: For me right now.

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Speaker 4: So it's been a real but I don't know this

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Speaker 4: the last few weeks, I've just gone, Yeah, I think

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Speaker 4: this is hormonal and whether it the other how much

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Speaker 4: the other stuff layers in. I'm sure it does, but

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Speaker 4: I definitely don't feel the same on a lot of

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Speaker 4: levels as I have and that's kind of felt that

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's well, will be one. I hope that as

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Speaker 1: much as it can sort out, sorts out, or you

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Speaker 1: how you go with that and what you discover. Patrick

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Speaker 1: James Bonello, how's your health? Son? Are you still? We

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Speaker 1: know you do your tai chi and we know you're

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Speaker 2: Well, I didn't say anything, but I know I've gone

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Speaker 2: I've actually in two weeks time, I've dropped almost a

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Speaker 2: I'm equating that to my muscles getting back into gear.

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Speaker 1: And your body goes like there is a thing called

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question that Kelly, who

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Speaker 1: And what would your answer be, Patrick? If you could

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Speaker 2: Do you consider tie chee your workout?

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Speaker 2: Well it'd have to be tai chie, no question, because

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Speaker 2: it has a longevity to it that means you there

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Speaker 2: are no barriers to it. You know, there's tie chies

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Speaker 2: amazing health benefits from balance, coordination, core stability that movement.

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Speaker 2: But it's passive, it's really slow movement, but there's strength

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Speaker 2: and better balance. So no, it would be unquestionably it

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Speaker 1: Chi perfect good answer, good answer, Tiffany and cook if

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Speaker 4: Do, I'm torn because I've got a big love for

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Speaker 4: strength now, but I think there's a huge argument still

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Speaker 4: reach peak heart rate, or you can do it slow.

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Speaker 4: You can do shadow boxing and technique. You get connection

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Speaker 4: so many dynamics you can't like. You can't get sick

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Speaker 4: sick of things easy. But there's always something different to work.

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Speaker 4: And you can work on footwork, you can work on strategy,

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Speaker 4: you can work on power and speed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I love it, I would say, but you're excluding

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't necessary And that's the thing is you can.

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Speaker 4: You can do sparring if you want, but you don't

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Speaker 4: There's a heaps of things you can do in box. Look,

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Speaker 2: Mm you Craig.

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Speaker 3: Craig's taking up surfing. I heard the answer to that.

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Speaker 1: all of that, which is also unbelievably good for your

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Speaker 3: That's the crab.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't need crab walk out. Yeah. The

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Speaker 1: Crab's pretty good at most things, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: running distances is one of them. But now we'll get

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Speaker 2: You say one thing. Sorry, when you talked about you know,

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Speaker 2: we talked about our little passions and it was great

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Speaker 2: to hear Tiff. And then you said, you know, the

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Speaker 2: other good thing is about connecting with people. And I

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Speaker 2: think of my tied sheen. I love connecting with people.

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Speaker 2: But I think when Tiff connects with people, that's a.

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Speaker 1: Basically yeah, that's true. It's an ambiguous term.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do what I can, Hey, mate, But enough

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Speaker 2: Yesh, you're think, hey, welcome to Do you write lists

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Speaker 1: Well, my mother is the world's most prolific list writer

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Speaker 2: cognitive offloading lowers your stress. So by putting things onto

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Speaker 1: Do you think that? Do you think that things kind

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Speaker 1: Other people, you're fucking what, Brian, I'm writing with a

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Speaker 2: You've got to look up. Everyone now has to jump

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Speaker 1: I've been trying to open your document over here, which

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Speaker 2: But Jacob Space the Final Frontier. This is really interesting.

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing. I was going to talk about

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Speaker 2: this later, but China now says that they've solved the

435
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 2: EV battery problem, and they've got parody between filling up

436
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 2: a battery and what it would be to fill up

437
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 2: a tank of fuel, so effectively, what they're saying is

438
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,239
Speaker 2: this is kind of ratio they talk about. You know,

439
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 2: if you're filling up the tank, how many kilometers can

440
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 2: you get on say ten leaders or a leader of fuel.

441
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 2: And now the Chinese are saying that they can get

442
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 2: the equivalent range from one minute of filling up via

443
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 2: an electric vehicle in exactly the same way that it

444
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 2: would be one minute of fuel going into your car.

445
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 2: They've got parody for the first time ever. This has

446
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 2: been kind of a bit of a holy grail of

447
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: ev tech to be able to fill up a battery

448
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 2: in the same amount of time. So five minutes to

449
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 2: fill a car five with normal fuel and ice engine

450
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: and in internal combustion engine, and five minutes to fill

451
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 2: an EV in the Chinese record that they've cracked it

452
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 2: on that one, which is pretty amazing, So you know,

453
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 2: you don't have those long wait times to be able

454
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Speaker 2: to get that extra five hundred kilometers of distance in

455
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Speaker 2: just five minutes.

456
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Speaker 1: I saw this thing the other day, this young African

457
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 1: American dude. He's like a scientist inventor, like genius young,

458
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Speaker 1: I don't know how old, but young, like earlier than

459
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: early twenties, like under twenty five. And he's built, he's built,

460
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: he's created fuel out of plastic and you'll see the

461
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: whole thing, right, and this is not a joke and

462
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: it's not a like And and then he was at

463
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: this launch where he was putting the fuel that he

464
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: made from plastic into a prato into a Toyota prato,

465
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: and all of the comments were like they were either

466
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,719
Speaker 1: like you're fucking amazing, that's incredible, or get some security

467
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 1: and people need to look after this man, protect this man,

468
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: because it seemed that, you know, there's been a history

469
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: of people who invented shit that was going to change

470
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: the world who mysteriously died Patrick.

471
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: Wasn't there an Australian guy years ago that.

472
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Speaker 1: He built a steam engine and engine powered by water. Yeah, yeah,

473
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 1: well they could run cars. Yeah, yeah, that's right.

474
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Speaker 2: Well the interesting thing is, when you think about it,

475
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 2: plastic is a petroleum byproduct. Yes, so if you could

476
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: convert it back, that makes a lot of sense. I mean,

477
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Speaker 2: I've got no idea how he did it, but that's

478
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: that's phenomenal, isn't it.

479
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,479
Speaker 1: Oh well, we won't be having that discussion. I mean,

480
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 1: and you think about like over the years, I think

481
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Speaker 1: they built I don't know if this is true, but

482
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: I grew up think of being told this that this

483
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: guy built a car tire that could do a million miles.

484
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 2: Wow.

485
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: So you know, so all the car manufacturers went fuck

486
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: that and then bought the rights to that and then

487
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: put it in a vault somewhere and went, fuck that tie.

488
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: We're never selling that. Yeah you hear it, You're never

489
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: selling another pair of ties.

490
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, you hit that stuff all the time. But look,

491
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Speaker 2: I don't know it would be to solve the world's

492
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: fuel crisis issue in terms of you know, the kind

493
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 2: of pollutants and you know the kind of ongoing you know,

494
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: the cabals that seem to control the oil prices and

495
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff. That would be pretty amazing,

496
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: wouldn't It also.

497
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Speaker 1: Pretty unlikely when you think about It's like, and I

498
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: know this sounds conspiracy theory, and I'm the last conspiracy

499
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,239
Speaker 1: theorist in the world, but when you think about how

500
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: much money is made out of oil, how much money

501
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 1: is made out of big farmer, Well, if we found

502
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 1: really simple cures, or really simple solutions, or really planet friendly,

503
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: human friendly, immune system friendly cures from or solutions that

504
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: involved nature that didn't make anyone a lot of money, well,

505
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: then a lot of industries, a lot of organizations are

506
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: going broke. So you know, as much as it sounds bad,

507
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it's in like people's sickness is

508
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: very profitable. So you know, there are people are some

509
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: organizations are obviously financially incentivized for people to stay sick. Yeah,

510
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: and that's that's just a fact.

511
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,479
Speaker 2: I remember once being told by somebody. I don't think

512
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: it was whilst I was in China, but it was

513
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 2: related to China. And if you were the person who

514
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: was the medical person in a village or in a town,

515
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 2: and it was your job to be their doctor, you

516
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: got paid when everybody was healthy, but if they got sick,

517
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: you stop getting paid. That the mindset being is you're

518
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: there to keep people healthy, not to you know, have

519
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 2: to then rush around and fix them when they don't work.

520
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 2: So there's there's a totally different mindset to the Eastern

521
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: philosophy or that philosophy of being healthy. And it's like,

522
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 2: you know, a medical person keeps you healthy, doesn't fix

523
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: what's already been broken, so don't let it get broken

524
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: in the first place. I love that mindset that you

525
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 2: know we work towards, and I guess you guys are

526
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: a testament to that. You know, you both tried really

527
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: hard to keep healthy all your lives, and it's something

528
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 2: that you know, I guess I have too. To that

529
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: to a degree. And so the more that we work

530
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: towards keeping healthy for as long as we can, I

531
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: think that's the most important thing.

532
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: Well, I think us, not that us three are better

533
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: than anyone else, but we're probably unicorns because none of

534
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,719
Speaker 1: us drink, none of us smoke, none of us do drugs.

535
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: We're all fun times, do you? Yeah?

536
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 3: Not often?

537
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: But how many glasses of alcohol would you have a year?

538
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 4: Ah?

539
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 3: Not many? I don't know, but not many.

540
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: I reckon about twelve.

541
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Speaker 3: You know why, because it's messaged in my sleep. Yeah,

542
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: and sleep's important, and then.

543
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: We can find so if we can find you some

544
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: booze that makes you sleep, you're going to be all in.

545
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can still get deep sleep.

546
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: You about sleep? I did a sleep study this week

547
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: at home. Go on, Oh no, Well, because I've had

548
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: issues with my sleeping and so I decided to do

549
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: a home sleep study. You know, you get your doctor

550
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: to refer you and then they attach all these games.

551
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. It took me. Twenty minutes. And

552
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: I'm pretty tech savvy, but I'm looking at the mirror

553
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: trying to attach the stuff. You know, you shove things

554
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: up your those and you're putting electrodes on your head

555
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: and then on your chest and it measures your heart

556
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: rate you're breathing and all that sort of stuff. It

557
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: was pretty full on with all that. It was probably

558
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 2: the worst night of sleep I've ever had. I can't

559
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: wait for the results to come in.

560
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: That is such a valid point, like here, let's see

561
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,479
Speaker 1: how let's see a tip all night sleep. But what

562
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: we'll do is we'll cover you in all their shit

563
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: so you can't have a typical night's sleep, and then

564
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: we'll use the data from that and call that your standard.

565
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: Well that's fucking ridiculous. Well, you know what you need.

566
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: You need a team of nurses in there, male or female.

567
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: You can have blokes and you know, just sitting in

568
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: chairs with no patching, just watching. That's not creepy at all.

569
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: And for you they can all be you know, thirty

570
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: to thirty five and well built. I'm just saying, not

571
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: that I've ever designed a sleep study, but you're welcome

572
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: world there.

573
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: It is lounds like you're the blake to speak to now.

574
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: Now, how much more excited are you about that sleep study,

575
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: yester than what I did?

576
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 3: Even I sleep happening, I think and you know the.

577
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,239
Speaker 2: Little stickers they use when you're doing an ECG and

578
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: they stick them onto you all that sort of stuff.

579
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: They're a bustard to get off what it almost rips

580
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: because they give you a spare of all of them

581
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: and they say happens to come off during the night,

582
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: And that wasn't going to come off during the night,

583
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: like like I just reckoned. I've got patches of skin

584
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: that went off with it, like they stick like like

585
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: nothing else. But I got through the night. Poor Fritz

586
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: wasn't happy because he kept wanting to cuddle me, and

587
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: I kept saying, no, don't get near me. You're gonna

588
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: pull out of wire.

589
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: Wow.

590
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: Wow.

591
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: And you've only got about seven chest hairs, so that

592
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: would have been you would have woke up with about two.

593
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: How do you know how many chest hairs Patrick has?

594
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: I know you licked them all individually. When you open

595
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: the door and you think I'm going to go one way,

596
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, fuck that, I'm running through the door.

597
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying the thing that everybody thinks I'm not going

598
00:31:51,400 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: to say. His chest tastes amazing. Oh, it's like strawberries. Patrick,

599
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: Can you take now? My listeners are going, oh that

600
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: this explains a lot. Oh the pennies just dropped. Now

601
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, now I get it right?

602
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: Right? Can we just this go to another topic? Password?

603
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: Can you tell me? Well, I was going to ask,

604
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: sorry to be I'm actually well, I'm interested in all

605
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: of it. But I do book a lot of flights.

606
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, can you tell me about that?

607
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: So Google just released a little bit of a report.

608
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: They looked into flight data because obviously a lot of

609
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: it sits in Google. Now you can actually look up

610
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: airline flights directly through Google. So what they did was

611
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: they the whole lot of flight data was gathered over

612
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: four years, and that's a considerable amount. And then what

613
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: they did was they looked at when was the best

614
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,959
Speaker 2: time to buy tickets, what time of the week was it.

615
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: And interestingly, one of the things that came out of

616
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 2: it was if you're going to book a ticket, book

617
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Speaker 2: it on a Tuesday. And then it looked at when's

618
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: the cheapest time to fly for whatever reason? Was on

619
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Speaker 2: a Tuesday? For some for some reason, book a Tuesday.

620
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: And then things like do you have a layover? Getting

621
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: a layover can considerably drop the price of your ticket.

622
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: But the other thing that came up if you, I mean,

623
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Speaker 2: this was related to a lot of the US flight data.

624
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: But if you want to buy a domestic flight in

625
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: the US, twenty one to fifty two days before you

626
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: depart is the sweet spot between booking the trip, and

627
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: then with international travel, it was fifty to one hundred

628
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: and one days before you travel. So I mean fifty

629
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: days out from going overseas. That seems like a pretty

630
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I booked quite a way in advance if

631
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: I was going to be booking overseas, So fifty days

632
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: isn't isn't that much? Really? Is it? It's like a

633
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: month and a half.

634
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: I think that. I mean, if you look at I

635
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: think most people would book at least a month or

636
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: two or three ahead, wouldn't that.

637
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 2: Well, I'm thinking, yeah, generally, I would think that it'd

638
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 2: be quite a considerable amount more. But it's interesting to

639
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: note that there are sweet spot days and times to

640
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: think about booking flights, and that it can be a

641
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: considerable amount cheaper if you look at that. So I thought, no,

642
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: that's not too bad. So tuesdays go for a Tuesday crego.

643
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: When you're doing it, I'll.

644
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: Tell you I don't know if there's anything in this,

645
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: but quite a few people that own businesses that I know.

646
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: In fact, Aaron also who owns the corner store on

647
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: Hampton Street. I think it's called the Corner Cafe, not

648
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: far from my joint. He always tells me that Tuesdays

649
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: are dead. Yeah, He's like, Tuesday's the quietest day, and

650
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: I think quite a lot of businesses it's that's a

651
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Speaker 1: good day to go into a business if you want something,

652
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 1: because they're not as busy. And I don't know, maybe

653
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: that's the case with airfares as well. Maybe people just

654
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: buy a less on that day.

655
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Speaker 2: I don't know why, but it's interesting, isn't it. Yeah.

656
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: I wonder there's a project tip in your spare time

657
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: when you're not researching perimenopause and whatever.

658
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 3: I've got an it question.

659
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I've been talking.

660
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 4: About this with a friend this week and we said,

661
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 4: let's talk to Patrick about it. The consumption of water

662
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 4: per ai prompt.

663
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's actually frightening, and in fact, it's almost

664
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 2: enough to make you reconsider whether you should be doing those,

665
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: particularly now with the video generation. You know, we're all

666
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: jumping on the bandwagon and The reality is that I

667
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: think the equivalent of doing a few seconds search is

668
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 2: like running a microwave for a whole day in terms

669
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 2: of what So if you do a video, so you

670
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: do an AI prompt and you say generate a Schnauzer.

671
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: Writer, No, I know what you mean. But when you

672
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: say the equivalent and.

673
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: What energy usage? Yeah, energy usage. That's what they use

674
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: water to cool all those servers, so it's also consuming

675
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 2: water as well. So running a you know, your mic

676
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: away for a whole day is what it's in terms

677
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: of power consumption. That's what a single text prompt video

678
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: AI query is actually using up, which blows your mind.

679
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: You know what we can do? We can ask AI

680
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: how to solve that problem?

681
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: Oh dear, Actually know what, I think I've misled everybody.

682
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: A five second AI video uses as much energy as

683
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: a microwave running for an hour or more. So I

684
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: really did mislead everybody there. I just want to clarify.

685
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: That sounded good and our audience is very Yeah. No,

686
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: nobody's fact checking you.

687
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: You could say, oh, I know, but I feel like

688
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: I need to clarify this. So a study by MIT

689
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: Technology Review, so then they were looking at how many

690
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: duels it takes, so basic chatbot reply uses as little

691
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 2: as one hundred and fourteen or as much as six

692
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 2: thy seven hundred duels. That's between half a second and

693
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: eight seconds, which is like a standalone microwave. So a

694
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 2: standard a standalone microwave, you just three point four million duels.

695
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: There you go.

696
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: Can you explain to me something which I'm sure is

697
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: the dumbest question, but fuck, it's me and it's technology.

698
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: What's the difference between Google and Google Chrome? And if

699
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 1: Google crime is better, why the fuck do we have Google?

700
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 2: Well? Google Chrome is the browser, so it's like Microsoft Edge.

701
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: Isn't Google a browser?

702
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 2: No, Google's a search engine. Oh yep, yep. So Chrome

703
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: is the brows in it? Yes you didn't, but you

704
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: need a browser to browse with.

705
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: What's a browser?

706
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: A browser is the you know what?

707
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: All the other dumb people like me are like, fuck,

708
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: good question.

709
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 4: Half but also going I couldn't answer that question either, yep, So.

710
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: To actually do is queer. So if you want to

711
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 2: go to a website, you open up a browser. So

712
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: dubdubdub dot THEU project, project dot com dot au. You've

713
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 2: got to type that into a browser. Now the search

714
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 2: engine Google sits within that, and you go to the

715
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: Google website, so Google dot com dot AU or Google

716
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: Google dot com, and that's where you're typing this search query.

717
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 2: So you need the browser to access Google in the

718
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 2: first place. But what Google's done with the Chrome browser

719
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: is you can type directly into the search area where

720
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: you would normally type in the web address, so the

721
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: dubdubdub dot whatever. You can also use that as a

722
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: search string. So I can type into that, you know,

723
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: how many episodes of the U project has Craig done,

724
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: and I can type that directly into the top of

725
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 2: the browser or into the Google part that appears in

726
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: the middle of the browser. But the browser is the

727
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 2: actual engine, like I guess, the program that you use

728
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: to surf the internet to go to websites, whereas Google

729
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: is the search engine that you use to do searches.

730
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Speaker 1: Still confused?

731
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 2: Okay, carry on, didn't don't you? Sometimes you is good

732
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: if you want to have an anonymous search me.

733
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 3: I feel like you're talking about that.

734
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: I mean, somebody told me just because Google tracks all

735
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: your shit, not that there's anything fucking you know, any

736
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: government secrets, But I'm like, I don't know that. I

737
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: want all all my stuff, but anyway, it doesn't matter.

738
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: I forgot about it. I used Duck duck Go three

739
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: years ago for about a day and a half and

740
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: then went fuck it, I'll use Google.

741
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: This sounds cool, but doesn't it Duck duck go don't know? Yeah?

742
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, there used to be there used to be another

743
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: thing called Okay, so I think this is mister. So

744
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: you know when we send someone an SMS. Yeah, so

745
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: we're just sending a message has to be you know,

746
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: or we send something via WhatsApp, or we send something

747
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: which is we're sending them another message via a different

748
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: fucking I don't know app or whatever. Or we send

749
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: someone something by a signal. You know what signal is.

750
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 2: It's another app, isn't it. Yeah, signals another app? Like what?

751
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: So signals meant to be encrypted end to end?

752
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

753
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: So how secure? I mean? And I know this is

754
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: not technical advice to anyone. This is just Patrick thinking are

755
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: those things secure secure?

756
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 2: I think for the most part, the companies that say

757
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: that they're secured, they they're banking on that. I mean.

758
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: Signalers come under fire because nefarious people use it as well.

759
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 3: Isn't it.

760
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, dealers, Well it's a mainstream app. But I also

761
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: I think it's.

762
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 3: Users.

763
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: What do you mean, what.

764
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: Do you mean? They hands up? Who uses signal?

765
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't even have it, so you can't

766
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: accuse me. I don't even have it in my phone.

767
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: But I think I think all good drug dealers use

768
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: it though, don't they.

769
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: Well that's because it's encrypted end to end and it

770
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 2: can't be viewed by a third party. That's the whole idea,

771
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 2: and that was always a concern of WhatsApp that when

772
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 2: it got purchased by Meta that end to end encryption

773
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: might be compromised. But they still say that it's end

774
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: to end encrypted. So anything that you're sending to each

775
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: other should be encrypted, and so it means it can't

776
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 2: be read both third party.

777
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: So a friend of mine who's been on the show

778
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: a bunch, Russ Jarrett, shout out to Rusty. He sent

779
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: me a message the other day saying basically he wanted

780
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: to know something about a motorbike in particular. So he

781
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: asked me a question about a motorbike. I answered the

782
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: question about the motorbike. So this is on SMS. Then

783
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: I started getting ads for that motorbike. Now somebody's reading

784
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: that fucking message, you know what I mean?

785
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have he's a question for you. So

786
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: it was just a text conversation, that was it.

787
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: Yep, there was no link. I hadn't done a search

788
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: because he asked me a specific question to which I

789
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: it's like saying, you know what's three times nine? And

790
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: I text back twenty seven, right, So it's like there

791
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: was nothing. There was no outside link or nothing. But

792
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: I started getting ads for that motorbike that I sent him.

793
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: He wanted to basically advice on maybe what bike to

794
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: look at. Yeah, yeah, ads for it. And I'm like,

795
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: this makes me nervous that I can't even send a

796
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: message to a friend. Then somebody or some not somebody,

797
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: but something is reading in inverted commas those messages.

798
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: Well, text messages by default are not encrypted, so if

799
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 2: you send me a text, that's not encrypted, and they

800
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: can technically be viewed and intercepted by other entities mobile carriers.

801
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: So if you I mean, there was a suggestion a

802
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: little while ago that if you had a Facebook app

803
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: on your phone, if you were running the Facebook app,

804
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 2: potentially that could be looking at other things that you're doing.

805
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: But it would be interesting if you did the same

806
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 2: exercise on different phone and you WhatsApp or signal to

807
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 2: see whether that came up as well. But text messages

808
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 2: are not encrypted, so if you're sending messages via text

809
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: and you should be sending them to your dearly using

810
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 2: normally semess crap.

811
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: I tell you who doesn't have this problem, Mary Harper,

812
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: because she writes it on a fucking spiral bound pad.

813
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: Fantastic, And you know what, that's the best thing. I

814
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 2: hope she uses a fountain pen as well.

815
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: Oh, she actually just plucks a feather out of a

816
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: chicken every morning and dipped it in ink.

817
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: I annoyed all. I got to tell you this funny story.

818
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 2: So there's a dice game that I play that my

819
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 2: learnt in Canada. It's a bit like Yatzi, and I

820
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 2: quite often play with friends because it's just an easy

821
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: one to learn and it's a bit of fun. I

822
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: had my friends sitting upstairs at my place and my

823
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: pen ran out of ink, and I was so pigheaded

824
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 2: that I didn't want to walk downstairs to get another

825
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: pen that I picked up a quill that was sitting

826
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: on my shelf and the bottle of ink, and I

827
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: was mocked for doing that made me even more pigheaded

828
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 2: to use a quill and ink to continue the game.

829
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: Well, you might as well get yourself a fucking horse

830
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: and buggy. You live in the middle of nowhere and

831
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: just you could be Sherlock Holmes.

832
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my poor friends, my poor friends. But I

833
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: choose them and they choose me. So do you go? Hey? Passwords,

834
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 2: I started saying earlier, who uses the same password? Do

835
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: you use the same password for a lot of stuff?

836
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 2: Crago No? No? Is that a real no?

837
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: I've been severely fucking reprimanded, chastised and beaten her about

838
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: the head by Mliss. Yeah, fucking hell. It's like when

839
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: I say she's bossy, I'm joking. But when it comes

840
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: to fucking security on the old interwebs.

841
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 3: Passwords are neurotic awesome. Do one's breaking into anything?

842
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: She's terrifying like, she's like, you can't use that. I'm like,

843
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: but who's gonna guess Crago one, two three? No one's

844
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: guessing that.

845
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 4: So.

846
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 2: A new study by cyber News looked at more than

847
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: two hundred data breaches in the last twelve months between

848
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: April twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five, nineteen billion

849
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: newly exposed passwords, so ninety four percent of them were

850
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 2: reused or duplicated, which means and that's sometimes by different users,

851
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 2: so people are using the same passwords. So and it's

852
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 2: been like the people who wrote the article who did

853
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: the study were saying, this is a widespread app epidemic

854
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: of weak password reuse. Only six percent of passwords were unique,

855
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: only six percent, So it means a really vulnerable to

856
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: what they call dictionary attacks, so really simple that can

857
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: be found really easily, and it means that they're out

858
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: in the wild too. That the problem is if that

859
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: data breach of nineteen nineteen billion, that's a staggering amount.

860
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: If you have, in any combination used your email and

861
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: a password, and then you've used that same password elsewhere,

862
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 2: then that's it. You're opening yourself up to potentially being hacked.

863
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: And once those details are out there, they can't be

864
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: put back in again. So this is another staggering statistic.

865
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Speaker 2: The study found that millions of people still use basic

866
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: passwords that are easy to remember and obviously hackers can

867
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: guess them. It's thought that fifty six million people use

868
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 2: the word password as their password.

869
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Can I tell you when? Did I tell you

870
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: about when somebody is what is it when they try

871
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: to black mark somebody sign to ransomware?

872
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

873
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. So I got sent this email saying essentially,

874
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: we've got video of you watching porn and you know,

875
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well you don't And they're like, if

876
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: you don't pay it was ten grand, We're going to

877
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: send it to all your friends. And I'm like, send

878
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: it to my friends. See ya.

879
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 2: You know. The funny thing is I got sent a

880
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: similar thing, probably from the same person. But I don't

881
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: have a camera on my computer. So my computer that

882
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: I use every day, that's my work computer, doesn't have

883
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: a camera on it.

884
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: Well my excuse is that I'm pull my in front

885
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: of my computer. That would have been a better thing

886
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: to say, Patrick, So your excuses.

887
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, you know, actually, while we're on the topic

888
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 2: of that, there's new ransomware laws in Australia that are

889
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: coming out in a few well today, I think it's today,

890
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 2: the thirtieth, Yeah, today, I know, thirty first from so

891
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 2: tomorrow in like our physical time of recording. And what's

892
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: happening is that now if a company makes a ransomware

893
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: payment or becomes aware of one, they're legally obliged to

894
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 2: report it to the Australian Signals Directorate within seventy two hours.

895
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: So they have to report it. It's now become compulsory

896
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 2: and if they don't then you could copy fine as

897
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: well from the Signals Directorate. So you have to report

898
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: if you pay ransomware. And I know of companies firsthand

899
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 2: that have paid over a million dollars to ransomware because

900
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: to a ransom to people trying to ransom them because

901
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: they were doing production and the production was losing them

902
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: more than that amount per day, so they paid it.

903
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: And so this is a company that's very has a

904
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,439
Speaker 2: big footprint in Australia. So now you have to within

905
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 2: seventy two hours. The limitation is that you if you

906
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: run a business that earns less than three million dollars

907
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: a year, you don't have to compulsorily report it unless

908
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 2: you're running an essential service. So that's the caveat on that.

909
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 2: But that's such as coming in tomorrow.

910
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: Well, good to know I won't be paying any ransomware.

911
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 2: Did I deflect? Really?

912
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: Well, neither will you because you don't have a camera, right,

913
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: they might go, Yeah, but we've got the audio trick.

914
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: How can people connect with you? Find you and join

915
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: in your jazzus size classes?

916
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: For anyone else, that's tichi, But if you want to

917
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: check out what I do, you could go to websites now,

918
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 2: dot com, dot au. I've got to say I had

919
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: the nicest phone call yesterday, Craigo. Can I indulge myself?

920
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 2: You can thank you? Well, not that sort of indulging.

921
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: Just kick a camera off.

922
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a phone call from a Project well,

923
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: an organization called Project Hope. One of the funnest things

924
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 2: I've done this year is I do there annual report,

925
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: which sounds really dry and boring, but I have a

926
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 2: lot of fun doing it because they're an amazing organization

927
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 2: that rescues horses in distress. Not only do they rescue

928
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 2: the horses, then they place the horses with their members,

929
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: and the members then look after the horse for the

930
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 2: life of the animal and report back. So they monitored

931
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: the health and well being of the animal because sadly,

932
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 2: through economic times and lots of mental illness that sort

933
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 2: of stuff, there are a lot of abandoned horses in Victoria.

934
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: So Project Hope amazing, and the vice president contacted me

935
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 2: yesterday and she said the annual report, they had two

936
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 2: barristers in a solicitor for some reason say that it's

937
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 2: the best annual report they've ever seen. So I was

938
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 2: just so stated. So it's one of those lovely jobs

939
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 2: that I really enjoy when we do graphic work or

940
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 2: design work as well as like the website stuff we do.

941
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Speaker 2: But it's just awesome to work for charity groups, you know,

942
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 2: when you can kind of sit back and feel so

943
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 2: proud of a job that you've done and feel like

944
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: you've really connected. And the next thing we're going to

945
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 2: do is some videos with one of the legal people

946
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 2: who's on their board and talk to them about just

947
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: you know, laws related to detecting animals that are in

948
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 2: distress and trying to assist their members with the things

949
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: to do because you can't just walk into a property

950
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 2: and seize an animal and distress even if it's in

951
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 2: a bad way, and you've got to follow certain procedures

952
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff. But no, it was

953
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: really fun. It was just such a lovely thing. So,

954
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: you know, that's the type of stuff that we do.

955
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 2: And I reckon. They're the most fun things that I

956
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 2: get to do every day, you know, just working with

957
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 2: people who are really passionate about what they enjoy doing good.

958
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 1: That's why we love you, because you've got a big heart.

959
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 2: Thanks like a racehorse, eh yeah.

960
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: And like we'll just call you the far lap of typeople.

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Speaker 1: We'll say goodbye fair but for the moment. Thank you Patrick,

962
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: thank you TIV, Thanks guys, guys,