WEBVTT - Paul Murray | 25 February

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<v Speaker 1>Skying new Center. This is Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello and welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Dadikidi Giorgio filling in tonight the great Man Paul Murray.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got a huge show ahead. The Prime Minister becomes

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<v Speaker 3>increasingly angry and combative. He really has his grumpy pants on.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you why in a moment. We've got a

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<v Speaker 3>common sense of steroids. Panels standing by Pauline Hansen, Gary

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<v Speaker 3>Hardgrave and James McGrath.

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<v Speaker 2>How's that for a lineup?

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<v Speaker 3>And we'll go live to the UK to catch up

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<v Speaker 3>with Nigel Farage.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll ask him about a new poll revealing.

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<v Speaker 3>He is more popular than other political leaders. But first tonight,

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<v Speaker 3>you know we are about to enter an election campaign

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<v Speaker 3>when the Prime Minister dotts his cricket outfit for the cameras.

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<v Speaker 3>There he is all suited up in white, posing alongside

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<v Speaker 3>Olympic breakdancer Rachel ray gun Gun remember her all for

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<v Speaker 3>an annual backyard charity cricket match at Kirabilly House. Once

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<v Speaker 3>again there's Albo with his dog, moonlighting as the everyday man.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know the campaign is imminent when Albo starts

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<v Speaker 3>peddling out tragic lines and slogans like this one.

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<v Speaker 4>There is no opposition health policy. They just said on

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<v Speaker 4>Saturday in something that it was sincere as a fake

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<v Speaker 4>Tan said that he'd match it well a little fade away,

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<v Speaker 4>just like a fake tan does.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeez, it makes a lot of sense, doesn't it. And

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<v Speaker 3>for the record, there is nothing wrong with fake Tan.

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<v Speaker 3>But the bizarre optics have started and we aren't even

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<v Speaker 3>in campaign propaet. If this is Labour's new strategy of

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<v Speaker 3>Kamala Harris esque word vomit and jargon, it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>make for an exhaustive campaign. And it seems as though

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<v Speaker 3>this is not the only strategy being adopted by Labor,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's become increasingly obvious. When the Prime Minister has

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<v Speaker 3>had enough of serious and important questions by reporters, the

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<v Speaker 3>strategy is to snap and avoid. He seems to be

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<v Speaker 3>only comfortable and at ease when he is talking about

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<v Speaker 3>Peter Dutton.

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<v Speaker 2>Now as we know, the polls.

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<v Speaker 3>Are bad for Albo and as he and his policies

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<v Speaker 3>get more desperate, he gets more angry. The Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 3>was today spreaking his eight point five billion dollar Medicare pledge,

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<v Speaker 3>pretending like Dutton has not pledged the exact same policy

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<v Speaker 3>and was asked a genuine question who's paying for it?

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<v Speaker 2>But ALBO doesn't want a bar of it.

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<v Speaker 4>The economists are saying that this pre election spending is

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<v Speaker 4>going to have to pay for be paid for by

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<v Speaker 4>taxpayers paying in the form of bracket creep. What this

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<v Speaker 4>is is an investment.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not sure we.

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<v Speaker 1>Have an answer on bracket creeper.

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<v Speaker 2>He is bracket creeper problem that you'll see to.

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<v Speaker 6>Address through more become tax cutsk in the next term

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<v Speaker 6>Australians with.

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<v Speaker 4>Respect. Paul, I did answer the question. Mightn't be the

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<v Speaker 4>one that you like, but I did answer the question.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's not whether the reporter likes the answer or not.

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<v Speaker 3>It's that important question for us the public to get

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<v Speaker 3>clarity on who is paying and how. And this is

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<v Speaker 3>important because, according to the Australian Financial Review, ALBO has

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<v Speaker 3>overseen the biggest spending increase for a first term government

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<v Speaker 3>since Goff Whitlam in the nineteen seventies. Labor has made

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<v Speaker 3>more than one hundred and twenty billion dollars worth of

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<v Speaker 3>discretionary spending decisions from its three budgets, and there are

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<v Speaker 3>billions more in yet to be accounted for election promises

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<v Speaker 3>like the increase in bulk billing.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, economist Chris Richardson.

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<v Speaker 3>Has warned there's only one real possibility to pay for it,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's through higher income taxes and bracket creep. So

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<v Speaker 3>there's certainly nothing free about Albo's free GP visits. He's

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<v Speaker 3>on a spending bonanza with our money, and the contempt

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<v Speaker 3>he shows when he snaps at the very question of

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<v Speaker 3>it tells you everything you need to know about this

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<v Speaker 3>Prime Minister. He will do and say anything to win,

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<v Speaker 3>but not when he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Asked about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Then, of course, at the weekend, three Chinese warships took

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<v Speaker 3>part in live fire drills off the East coast. This

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<v Speaker 3>is serious because we're talking about lives at stake, as

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<v Speaker 3>passenger jets were re rooted.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, guess what, Albo didn't want a bar of it.

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<v Speaker 6>He needs to be looking at some sort of a

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<v Speaker 6>punishment for China, like trade restrictions or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 4>You do know that most of the trade goes from

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<v Speaker 4>here to there, not the la around. And I've worked

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<v Speaker 4>pretty hard.

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<v Speaker 1>That's this escallation from China.

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<v Speaker 7>Warrantay Shongo Defense response from Australia Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I've answered the respect I have answered the questions.

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<v Speaker 3>Seriously, Prime Minister China, he's at our doorstep in a

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<v Speaker 3>provocative manner, threatening our sovereignty, and you've apparently had enough

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<v Speaker 3>talking about it. Beijing would lap it up because his

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<v Speaker 3>silence is what China wants from Australia's handsome boy. And

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<v Speaker 3>it happened again last week when he was asked about

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<v Speaker 3>the timing of the election.

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<v Speaker 2>Bout around in the election, they might coincide's so boring.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so boring, the question, the questions.

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<v Speaker 1>That no get around.

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<v Speaker 4>It's fantastic, just one of the initiatives, what's boring, has

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<v Speaker 4>questions about election timing and because she asked it, I've

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<v Speaker 4>been asked it for a year.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't want to know about that either.

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<v Speaker 3>And on his quasi New Year election campaign it happened again.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not our slogan.

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<v Speaker 8>Good try.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there a one word slogan, one sentence slogan, good use?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean we're using We've done this with backdrops, We've

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<v Speaker 4>done with media releases. I'm not sure which LMP member

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<v Speaker 4>has sent you that question to ask, but they should

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<v Speaker 4>pay attention. And you should be cautious about just reading

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<v Speaker 4>out things that are sent from the LMP.

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<v Speaker 7>It's time for you to concede that your pledge to

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<v Speaker 7>reduce electricity crisis by two hundred and seventy five dollars

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<v Speaker 7>by this year, for whatever reasons, that's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that fair?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, one of the things that we did, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>was I have three hundred dollars energy bill relief.

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<v Speaker 7>That's not my question in fair that was a coalition

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<v Speaker 7>with the two hundred and seventy five dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>I know that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you get to do the questions.

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<v Speaker 4>I get to do the answers.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I'll work now.

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<v Speaker 3>The Prime Minister just doesn't want to talk about what matters.

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<v Speaker 3>Does he cost of living electricity, keeping the lights on

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<v Speaker 3>in this country, paying.

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<v Speaker 2>For your bills?

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<v Speaker 3>And what's abundantly clear is a failure to communicate because

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<v Speaker 3>unless he knows about a subject or doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about it, the more he gets angry. And compare

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<v Speaker 3>this to what he talking about. Peter Dutton.

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<v Speaker 4>Peter Dutton, when he was Health Minister, ripped fifty billion

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<v Speaker 4>dollars out of the hospital system. Peter Dutton, who has

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<v Speaker 4>never supported very clearly on his own record supported free healthcare.

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<v Speaker 4>Peter Dutton can't be trusted. Peter Dutton slashing and cuts,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a matter for Peter Dutton.

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<v Speaker 3>Peter Dutton is the Prime Minister's security blanket. It is

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<v Speaker 3>the only topic he's comfortable with. Yet, what we need

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<v Speaker 3>is a prime minister who fronts up, who doesn't shrivel

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<v Speaker 3>at the thought of being asked important questions, who stands

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<v Speaker 3>up for our values, who has a real plan to

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<v Speaker 3>take this country forward. What does this Prime minister stand for,

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<v Speaker 3>because honestly, the lack of leadership suggests he doesn't even

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<v Speaker 3>know the answer to that himself. Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke,

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<v Speaker 3>who I've got to say, is having his very own

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<v Speaker 3>oprah winfree moment where everyone gets a citizenship. Yes, you

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<v Speaker 3>get a citizenship, and you get a citizenship. Anyone can

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<v Speaker 3>apparently come into this country. I mean, we've got record

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<v Speaker 3>high migration as it is, but we will give you

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<v Speaker 3>a citizenship.

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<v Speaker 2>In exchange for your vote.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how it appears to work under Labor, and Burke

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<v Speaker 3>really thinks we're all mugs, as if we don't realize

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<v Speaker 3>what Labor is doing here, weaponizing citizenship, guaranteeing all these

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<v Speaker 3>new citizens twelve five hundred at that will be eligible

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<v Speaker 3>to cast their vote on election day in what could

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<v Speaker 3>be an attempt to win over marginal seats. And now,

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<v Speaker 3>thanks to some great reporting by James O'Doherty in the

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<v Speaker 3>Daily Telegraph, we now know many of those who gained

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<v Speaker 3>citizenship at the weekend alone, there were four thousand, five

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<v Speaker 3>hundred of them live in battleground seats that could decide

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<v Speaker 3>the election.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a look at this.

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<v Speaker 3>Of those, nine hundred and seventy live in the Paramatta

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<v Speaker 3>local government area. The electorates covered there include the marginal

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<v Speaker 3>Labour seats of Paramatta held with a margin of three

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<v Speaker 3>point seven percent, as well as Read held on a

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<v Speaker 3>margin of five point two percent. And then the next

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<v Speaker 3>highest number of citizens came from Liverpool, mainly covering the

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<v Speaker 3>Labor electorates of Werrower held on a margin of five

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<v Speaker 3>point three percent and Fowler held by Independent Diale on

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<v Speaker 3>a margin of just one point four percent. About two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and ninety new citizens came in Ride, which is

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<v Speaker 3>entirely within the ultra marginal seat of Benelong held by Labor.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, that's where Labor was today now with the

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<v Speaker 3>exception of Fowler, these seats are expected to come down

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<v Speaker 3>to the wire the Home Affairs Secretary. He said that

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<v Speaker 3>all new citizens met the requirement for citizenship, including four

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<v Speaker 3>years living in Australia and one year as a permanent resident.

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<v Speaker 3>But it appears that Tony Burke and Labor are banking

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<v Speaker 3>on the fact that these migrants.

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<v Speaker 2>Will reward Labor with their vote in marginal.

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<v Speaker 3>Seats forgiving them their citizenship, despite his assurances on Sky

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<v Speaker 3>News on Friday that that was not the case.

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<v Speaker 7>This is a good opportunity. I had no idea which

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<v Speaker 7>way these individuals are going to vote. You know, I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know if you know which way they're going to vote.

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<v Speaker 7>They're people who want to make a pledgure commitment to Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh please, six thousand citizenships over three days. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>buying votes exercise. That's exactly what it looks like. You

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<v Speaker 3>need citizenship to vote, and you need it at least

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<v Speaker 3>a week before an election to cast it, so Labor

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<v Speaker 3>can spare us. This was all about efficiency nonsense, But

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<v Speaker 3>probably the most telling information came from Home Affairs Secretary

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<v Speaker 3>Stephanie Foster at Senate estimates were.

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<v Speaker 6>There in fact document holders from Palestine who had granted

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<v Speaker 6>citizenship at these ceremonies.

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<v Speaker 9>This person reports there were, Yes, there were, Senator. All

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<v Speaker 9>conferees met the requirements, which includes four years in Australia

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<v Speaker 9>and one year as a permanent resident.

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<v Speaker 6>How many Palestinian conferees there are as part of this.

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<v Speaker 10>Process, Senator, there's twenty three, twenty three who've been invited.

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<v Speaker 9>Senator.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, let's not forget Burke's seat is in Muslim vote

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<v Speaker 3>territory in Western Sydney. Labour is already under pressure from

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<v Speaker 3>Muslim votes in that area. We know hence why it's

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<v Speaker 3>sold out our values for votes in the ongoing anti

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<v Speaker 3>Semitism crisis. Labour needs every vote from Western Sydney it

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<v Speaker 3>can get, but at what cost, especially at a time

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<v Speaker 3>when people are worried about immigration. More than one point

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<v Speaker 3>one million people have come into this country under Labor

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<v Speaker 3>and nobody ever voted for a big Australia. Yet here

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<v Speaker 3>we are, and there are some people who have come

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<v Speaker 3>here who hate our values, some hate Australia, and some

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<v Speaker 3>have no interest in assimilating. And you can't tell me

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<v Speaker 3>this is not about votes, but a whole troop of

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<v Speaker 3>labor MPs were present at the mass citizenship bonanza, Yet

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<v Speaker 3>The Daily Telegraph reports a Liberal senator, who was required

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<v Speaker 3>to be invited under citizenship ceremony rules, was only told

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<v Speaker 3>of the event two days beforehand, nine days after mayors

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<v Speaker 3>were notified. While Tony Burke, on the other hand, instructed

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<v Speaker 3>his staff to schedule his calendar around photo opportunities with

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<v Speaker 3>new citizens.

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<v Speaker 6>Is it necessary for him to attend them for them to.

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<v Speaker 9>Occur, No, Senator, but it's not uncommon.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, so why should it dependent on his availability?

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<v Speaker 1>Then?

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<v Speaker 6>If this is about clearing the backlog, what's the relevance

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<v Speaker 6>of his availability?

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<v Speaker 9>So, Senat, that's a question I think for Minister.

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<v Speaker 6>No, it's a question for you, because you agreed with

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<v Speaker 6>the minister. With the minister's limited availability for this schedule, the.

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<v Speaker 9>Minister asked us to share your ceremonies. He gave us

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<v Speaker 9>a window of availability and we scheduleselves.

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<v Speaker 6>So he directed you to hold these ceremonies when he

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<v Speaker 6>was available to attend them.

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<v Speaker 2>The game is up, Burke. We know what you are doing.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you really want to talk about efficiency, how

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<v Speaker 3>about start canceling visas of people who should not even

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<v Speaker 3>be allowed in this country. But I guess that won't

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<v Speaker 3>get you the votes where you need them the most.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get into it now. Joining me is our common

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<v Speaker 3>sense on steroids panel. That's what we're calling it tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>One Nation leader Pauline Hanson, HELLNP Senator James McGrath and

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<v Speaker 3>Sky and News contributor Gary Hardgrave. Great to have the

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<v Speaker 3>three of you on. Thank you so much for joining

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<v Speaker 3>me on the show this evening.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good to see you. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Look we've got to start with Lydia Thope because.

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<v Speaker 2>She's at it again.

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<v Speaker 3>In a closed door talk at a so called anti

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<v Speaker 3>racism symposium put together by Queensland University of Technology, the

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<v Speaker 3>now independent senator urged Indigenous Australians to plant the Aboriginal

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<v Speaker 3>flag on land and make white people pay to visit

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<v Speaker 3>why to assert sovereignty apparently over the nation. She said, quote,

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<v Speaker 3>we have to organize and strategize and take over our

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<v Speaker 3>land like they did. We need to start putting our

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<v Speaker 3>own flags into our own land and.

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<v Speaker 2>F the colony.

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<v Speaker 3>Pauline Hanson f the colony, she said, what do you

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<v Speaker 3>make of this latest identity politics intervention?

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<v Speaker 11>She hasn't changed a tune, has she she's an activist

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<v Speaker 11>on the floor of Parliament and actually in the last

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<v Speaker 11>sitting of Parliament she turned and she said to me,

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<v Speaker 11>she said, you be paying rent soon. Pauline. Oh, that's

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<v Speaker 11>what she says to me all the time. Go back

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<v Speaker 11>where you came from. You know, your stole land, you're

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<v Speaker 11>paying rent. Honestly, I'm so over her. She's if she's

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<v Speaker 11>not doing the cause any good whatsoever with her activism.

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<v Speaker 11>She goes to the Queensland University, comes up here and

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<v Speaker 11>she actually calls problems at these universities. She's trying to

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<v Speaker 11>get the young ones, well Brian Wash through her educational

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<v Speaker 11>system then at universities, and that's what she's trying to do. Hopefully,

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<v Speaker 11>this is the last three years that she'll have in

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<v Speaker 11>Parliament and she won't get voted in again. At the

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<v Speaker 11>next election. She'd be an independent and I'll be pleased

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<v Speaker 11>to see the back end of her.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I mean, if if any of us said the

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<v Speaker 3>same thing to her, Pauline Hanson, we would all be

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<v Speaker 3>in trouble. I mean, we wouldn't hear the end of it.

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<v Speaker 3>But of course no, it's all right. When she says

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<v Speaker 3>something like that to you, it's just extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 2>Gary.

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<v Speaker 3>How is it ever appropriate to have race betas like

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<v Speaker 3>this representing our country?

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<v Speaker 8>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Never.

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<v Speaker 12>But people are entitled to a view and she's entitled

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<v Speaker 12>to hers, and it's self evident to most people.

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<v Speaker 1>I ran a poll.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm hosting the before We See Drive program here in

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<v Speaker 12>Brisbane these days, and we ran a pole on the

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<v Speaker 12>question of which members of Parliament would you like to mute?

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<v Speaker 12>And she just went through the roof. She won the

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<v Speaker 12>mute the member pole hands down. Let me tell you,

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<v Speaker 12>people wanted to shut up.

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<v Speaker 1>And go away.

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<v Speaker 8>And look, you know, but when you're you know, enemy.

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<v Speaker 12>Is digging themselves into a deeper hole in them keep digging,

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<v Speaker 12>I say, but look, it's pretty self evident. How stupid

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<v Speaker 12>it is. There is a flag for the Aboriginal people.

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<v Speaker 12>It's the same flag for all Australians. It's the one

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<v Speaker 12>Australian flag. I don't know why we need to actually

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<v Speaker 12>have much of a debate. The only flag that needs

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<v Speaker 12>to fly is the Australian national flag. It's been a

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<v Speaker 12>beautiful flag that was designed a long time ago by

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<v Speaker 12>a competition back you know, right at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 12>Australia nineteen hundred and one.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get.

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<v Speaker 12>I just don't get what the point of her point

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<v Speaker 12>is because I don't believe it's traditional for Aboriginal flags

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<v Speaker 12>to actually exists an e. Look, I'm more more annoyed

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<v Speaker 12>about the Qut people who continue to try and dabble

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<v Speaker 12>in this space and everything just keeps blowing up on them.

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<v Speaker 12>We shouldn't be funding these universities. I think it's about

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<v Speaker 12>time we actually defunded some of these universities which are

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<v Speaker 12>turning into activists, people who just simply want to get

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<v Speaker 12>this kind of rubbish out there on the streets. I

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<v Speaker 12>don't think there's any instruction and this this is about indoctrination. Well,

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<v Speaker 12>the funding to the universities for a year, I'm not impressed.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>We have seen absolute poor performance from universities across this

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<v Speaker 3>country since October seven, twenty twenty three, and this is

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<v Speaker 3>one prime examply when they're giving voices to people like this,

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<v Speaker 3>it is absolutely unacceptable. Look, let's move on to Welcome

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<v Speaker 3>to Country. Because the Northern Territory is Chief Minister, I've

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<v Speaker 3>got to give it to her. Lea Fanochiaro. She deserves

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<v Speaker 3>a medal for being brave and standing up against these

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<v Speaker 3>welcome to country culture wars. Let me walk you through

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<v Speaker 3>what's actually happened at last week's bombing of Darwin anniversary ceremony.

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<v Speaker 3>There was no shortage of wealthlcome to countries, but the

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<v Speaker 3>Chief Minister, however, she chose not to do one.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a look at this.

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<v Speaker 13>I'd like to pay special acknowledgment to the veterans here today,

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<v Speaker 13>to territorians, to serving men and women, to the families

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<v Speaker 13>and descendants of survivors, ladies and gentlemen, but also importantly

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<v Speaker 13>to our children.

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<v Speaker 3>Now she's copped a lot of criticism and instead of recoiling,

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<v Speaker 3>she's actually doubled down. I've got to say, at last,

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<v Speaker 3>a leader who's not afraid to pander to this garbage

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<v Speaker 3>which is constantly all the time shoved down our throats.

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<v Speaker 2>Senator James McGrath, did she do the right thing here?

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<v Speaker 14>She so did the right thing. Leah is a friend

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<v Speaker 14>of mine. I've known her since twenty twelve when I

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<v Speaker 14>was campaign director up in the Northern Territory when the

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<v Speaker 14>colp won and Leah ran for the first time. Leah

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<v Speaker 14>is a born and bred Territorian. She will stand up

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<v Speaker 14>for all territorians and fight for all territorians, regardless of

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<v Speaker 14>their color, whether they've been here since the dream time

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<v Speaker 14>or there a new arrival into Australia. And what she

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<v Speaker 14>said at the commemoration of the bombing of Darwin, to

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<v Speaker 14>acknowledge the veterans, to acknowledge the families, to acknowledge the children,

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<v Speaker 14>it was a colorblind acknowledgment. She wanted to unite the

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<v Speaker 14>territory and not divide the territory. We need more politicians

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<v Speaker 14>like Lea. Just compare her to say Albanesi and look

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<v Speaker 14>at the difference between Albanesi and Dutton. We need more Duttons,

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<v Speaker 14>we need more LEAs, we need fewer Albanesis, and we

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<v Speaker 14>need fewer of the winging, whining, woke brigade who do

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<v Speaker 14>a lot of talking but don't do any delivering. She'll

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<v Speaker 14>leave the Northern Territory a better place when she leaves politics.

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<v Speaker 14>The same cannot be said for the Labor Party who

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<v Speaker 14>rented into the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, and it's about being strong and pushing back and

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<v Speaker 3>not being fearful of pushing back. This is what Leafanochiara

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<v Speaker 3>said this morning when responding to that criticism.

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<v Speaker 15>Have a listen, We had a Welcome to Country by

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<v Speaker 15>James Parfitt, and I just don't think every speaker needs

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<v Speaker 15>to do it. The feedback I get from the community

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<v Speaker 15>and acknowledgments of country is that territories and this is

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<v Speaker 15>literally their words, Lara. They feel like it's been rammed

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<v Speaker 15>down their throat under Labor. So I think it's it's

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<v Speaker 15>very fair to have a welcome to country and they

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<v Speaker 15>absolutely have their place, but we've just been indoctrinated by

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<v Speaker 15>a Labor government over eight years who have shamed people

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<v Speaker 15>into feeling like they have to do something that lacks genuine,

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<v Speaker 15>genuine nature and is tokenistic.

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<v Speaker 3>Pauline Hanson, I know that you have been very vocal

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to welcome to countries. You must be

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<v Speaker 3>relieved to finally see a leader not caving in.

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<v Speaker 2>She's my kind of woman.

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<v Speaker 11>I love her. I think she's parliament.

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<v Speaker 2>I turn my back on it.

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<v Speaker 11>In Parliament. I'm the only one where's everyone else? So

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<v Speaker 11>you know you need James, you need more. Pauline Hansen's

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<v Speaker 11>on the floor of Parliament. That's what you need. It

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<v Speaker 11>stood and she has not backed down from it, and

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<v Speaker 11>it is and I hear all the time from people

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<v Speaker 11>they're second tired of having ram down their throats. No

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<v Speaker 11>Aboriginal has more right to this country than I do.

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<v Speaker 11>I was born here and I'm fed up with it.

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<v Speaker 11>And corporations in councils everywhere, even on everywhere that you go.

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<v Speaker 11>It's welcome the country. When you're in a bloody plane,

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<v Speaker 11>every time you land, welcome the country.

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<v Speaker 2>I just like screaming.

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<v Speaker 11>I thought, no, I better not say anything, otherwise they

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<v Speaker 11>won't let me on the plane again. I do know

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<v Speaker 11>when to keep quiet.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, we all, let's be honest, we all

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<v Speaker 3>are very polite when it comes to this matter. But

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<v Speaker 3>I was at the Sky News Anti Semitism summit last week,

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<v Speaker 3>a wonderful event put on by Sharry Marsin and Alex Ripton,

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<v Speaker 3>And when Mark Drayfus took the stage at a synagogue,

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<v Speaker 3>the first thing he does is an acknowledgment to country.

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<v Speaker 2>The timing was just shocking.

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<v Speaker 3>But there was an audible groan throughout the entire synagogue.

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<v Speaker 3>Gary Hardgrave because firstly the time and place was just shocking,

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<v Speaker 3>But secondly, how much longer can we sit there and

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<v Speaker 3>be polite?

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<v Speaker 12>And full points to the lea Fanoccuiro look let's face it,

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<v Speaker 12>that is really where people are at. If you want

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<v Speaker 12>to do that and acknowledge the various people in the crowds, fine,

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<v Speaker 12>particularly if there's a representative, a leader of a local

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<v Speaker 12>community to be the leader of this community, that community, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Aboriginal community, whatever.

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<v Speaker 12>But the idea I've been to seminars and meetings where

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<v Speaker 12>the agenda runs for an hour and twenty five minutes

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<v Speaker 12>of it is welcome the country. Because by the time

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<v Speaker 12>you hire somebody in, whether they're going to have a

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<v Speaker 12>bit of smoke or something else, some people do some

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<v Speaker 12>really nice ones, like they say, look, we're all Australians together.

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<v Speaker 12>I had somebody do that outside City Hall, Brisbane a

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<v Speaker 12>year or so ago. I think he was a descendant

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<v Speaker 12>of part of the Nevill Bonner family and he said,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, let me tell you the story, and major

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<v Speaker 12>feel welcome, like you learned a little.

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<v Speaker 8>Bit of knowledge.

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<v Speaker 12>But the token istic thing where they acknowledge elder's past,

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<v Speaker 12>present emerging and whatever whatever it is, just has lacked sincerity.

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<v Speaker 12>It lacks any real gravitas as a result, And let

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<v Speaker 12>me tell you, getting off those planes, as Senator Hanson

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<v Speaker 12>has suggested, you hear you think it's the.

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<v Speaker 1>Engine still running.

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<v Speaker 12>The grown is so loud from people, and frankly Quantas

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<v Speaker 12>and others who do this need to stop this. I

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<v Speaker 12>saw somebody came off a Cata flight from the Middle

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<v Speaker 12>East and they said, what was great about landing in

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<v Speaker 12>Melbourne on the Catter flight? Was they actually, that's not

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<v Speaker 12>Bob Catter, that's Kata the country. They didn't acknowledge country

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<v Speaker 12>when they laved it. They found it really pleasant.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, you know, for once, maybe we need

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<v Speaker 3>to go take these international flights because I've sick to

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<v Speaker 3>death of going an hour in Melbourne. Welcome to your country.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been here the whole time for goodness sake.

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<v Speaker 2>Now look still on the culture.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, vandals have targeted a Captain Cook statue in Fitzroy Gardens,

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<v Speaker 3>allegedly attempting to cut off the statue's head.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, here we go again. We see this time

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<v Speaker 2>and time again.

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<v Speaker 3>The nearby cottage was defaced with anti Cook comments, the

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<v Speaker 3>statue copping some apparent damage to the neck. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>James McGrath, this is symptomatic of the left's sustained push

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<v Speaker 3>to demonize our history.

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<v Speaker 2>And what more do we expect?

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<v Speaker 14>Yea, the left hate nordern Australia. The left hate everything

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<v Speaker 14>that's happened in Australia since seventeen eighty eight and since

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<v Speaker 14>nineteen hundred and one, that they think it is all

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<v Speaker 14>all bad. My view is we've got a great country. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 14>we've got some our history sometimes could have been a

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<v Speaker 14>bit better, but you go around the world and it's

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<v Speaker 14>a pretty ugly place out there.

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<v Speaker 8>At times.

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<v Speaker 14>Australia is a fantastic country. But the left, they hate it.

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<v Speaker 14>And what happens is when the left are in power.

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<v Speaker 14>You look at Victoria with the socialist left running that state.

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<v Speaker 14>You look here in Canberra where you've got a socialist

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<v Speaker 14>left prime minister. Is that actually also soft on crime?

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<v Speaker 14>So you have two things come together, a hatred of

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<v Speaker 14>modern Australia and being soft on crime, and so no

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<v Speaker 14>wonder you've got vandals and criminals getting away with attacking

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<v Speaker 14>our history, attacking.

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<v Speaker 8>Who we are.

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<v Speaker 14>Because Captain Cook, he was one of the world's most

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<v Speaker 14>brilliant navigators.

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<v Speaker 8>This he discovered Australia.

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<v Speaker 14>He gets a gold medal for that, but in terms

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<v Speaker 14>of his navigational skills, he gets two gold medals for that.

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<v Speaker 14>Because he was such a fantastic sailor, and he came

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<v Speaker 14>from such a humble background, which he is, someone who

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<v Speaker 14>actually was the Australian dream before the concept of Australia

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<v Speaker 14>came into being. So we should defend him, defend his

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<v Speaker 14>statue and defend our history.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we cannot erase history. I mean, that's the reality.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're sick to death of the Left. And every

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<v Speaker 3>time it's Captain Cook, it's Captain Cook. Enough already, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just out of control. Now that we've got to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about Albo. I mentioned this earlier in mytorial, but this

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<v Speaker 3>has got to be a new low when it comes to.

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<v Speaker 2>Campaign attack lines. If this is what.

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<v Speaker 3>Albo is offering up now, it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>very long and exhaustive election campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just remind you of those comments. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>There is no opposition health policy. They just said on

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<v Speaker 4>Saturday in something that it was sincere as a fake

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<v Speaker 4>Tan said that he'd match it well a little fade away,

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<v Speaker 4>just like a fake Tan does.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's wrong with a fake Tan now.

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<v Speaker 3>Pauline Hanson, who is advising Anthony Albanezi here, because I've

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<v Speaker 3>got to say that was an absolute shocker.

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<v Speaker 11>It's been a shock of the whole way through. And

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<v Speaker 11>when he became Prime Minister, I did a trip with

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<v Speaker 11>him over to India. I was actually disgusted with his

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<v Speaker 11>ability to actually lead the parliamentary delegation over there and

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<v Speaker 11>talk to leaders. And when he got elected they asked me,

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<v Speaker 11>I said, nice bloke, no leader, And I've been right

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<v Speaker 11>and what I said, he just doesn't have the qualities

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<v Speaker 11>to understand how the people are feeling and how to lead.

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<v Speaker 11>All he's ever done right through his whole term is

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<v Speaker 11>to blame the Coalition for everything he's had three years.

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<v Speaker 11>Even up to the last week in parliament last year

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<v Speaker 11>or this year, I should say, they're still blaming the

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<v Speaker 11>Coalition for problems that they're having instead of getting on

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<v Speaker 11>with the job taking responsibility for his own actions and

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<v Speaker 11>what he's put through in legislation. They can't even get

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<v Speaker 11>the legislation right. They put it on the floor of

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<v Speaker 11>Parliament and before it's even passed, they're putting up amendments

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<v Speaker 11>to their own legislation. Everything's been band aidd all the time.

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<v Speaker 11>The most incompetent government, the worst ministers I've ever seen

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<v Speaker 11>in a parliament, and Anthony ALBERIZI is he doesn't know

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<v Speaker 11>how to deal with the costs of living and the

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<v Speaker 11>Medicare is a sham. And I looked at these figure Stanika,

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<v Speaker 11>he's actually spending around about three hundred and sixty billion

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 11>dollars more. That's not even the promises that he's come

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<v Speaker 11>out in the selection campaign. So it's put this whole

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:08.359
<v Speaker 11>country into about a debt of another four hundred plus

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<v Speaker 11>billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that is frightening. And this is a thing

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<v Speaker 3>because he's being asked about it at these press conferences.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you funding all of these promises? He's snapping

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<v Speaker 3>at reporters, He's getting angry about it. Reality is is

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<v Speaker 3>it's you and I who are going to be paying

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<v Speaker 3>for it. He's just not being upfront. And I've got

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<v Speaker 3>to say, just on that point there, and Gary one

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<v Speaker 3>ask you about this. Why is Anthony Arberinez he so

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<v Speaker 3>obsessed with Peter Dutton And I said this earlier because

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<v Speaker 3>he only seems to be at ease when he's talking

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<v Speaker 3>about Dunton. The rest of the time, there is such

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<v Speaker 3>an acute failure to communicate.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, look, Deniga, let me just walk this through very slowly.

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 12>Anthony was born and raised in public housing. You may

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<v Speaker 12>not have heard that, and.

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<v Speaker 16>He carries it, carries with him the awful reality that

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<v Speaker 16>while he's accumulated a great deal of a property portfolio,

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<v Speaker 16>he's actually now living rent free in public housing.

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<v Speaker 12>Again, two nice houses, one with a really terrific view,

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<v Speaker 12>and Peter Dutton is living rent free in his mind.

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<v Speaker 12>And this obsession with attacking Peter Dutton just shows you

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<v Speaker 12>that Peter is kind of framing the narrative and has been, frankly,

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<v Speaker 12>for most of this Prime Minister's term. Peter Dutton's been

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<v Speaker 12>the one that's been leading the debate on energy. The

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 12>fact is that Anthony Alberanezi's government has presided over one

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<v Speaker 12>of the greatest drops in the quality of living, and

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<v Speaker 12>the cost of living increases.

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<v Speaker 8>That's impacting every Australian.

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<v Speaker 12>You've got bulk building problems simply because doctors, like all

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<v Speaker 12>the rest of us, can't afford the increase in insurance,

0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 12>the increase in electricity. There's small businesses. Doctors, gps are

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 12>small businesses and that's why medicares amount of money doesn't

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 12>cover things, and they've got to find a way to

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<v Speaker 12>keep the doors open for their patients.

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<v Speaker 8>This bloke has absolutely no idea.

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<v Speaker 12>About the way that people are meeting the cost of

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<v Speaker 12>living in is in the supermarket and the Reserve Band

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<v Speaker 12>goes off the ABS statistics and said, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>inflation is sitting in the zone about three percent.

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<v Speaker 2>But Denika, things are going up much.

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<v Speaker 1>More than that.

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<v Speaker 12>Building, building items, items that go into construction, Jip Rock

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<v Speaker 12>and Villeport all going up about eight percent in coming days.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, he's got no idea because he hasn't had

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<v Speaker 12>to worry about it ever in his life.

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>He's never had to worry about this.

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 2>No, he's got all.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he grew up in public housing just in case,

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<v Speaker 3>as he said, just in case we didn't know now,

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<v Speaker 3>just just before we had to a break. I mean

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 3>today he lined up with breakdancer Ray garn He joined

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<v Speaker 3>the Breakdancer for an annual cricket charity match.

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<v Speaker 2>To James McGrath.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got to say both have the same level of skill,

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<v Speaker 3>would you agree?

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 17>Yeah?

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 8>I think so.

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 14>She could probably do a better job as being prime

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 14>minister though, because he's a pretty average prime minister. Look,

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 14>it was great they're raising money for charity, but isn't

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 14>it sad that the charity had to raise money because

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<v Speaker 14>Labor had cut mental health funding by five hundred million dollars.

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<v Speaker 8>That's funding we're going to restore us. Great.

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<v Speaker 14>This this, this is a prime minister who wants to

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<v Speaker 14>politicize everything. To Gary's point before that prime Minister is

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 14>obsessed by by Peter Dutton. So is the Labor Party.

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 14>They are going to make Peter Dutton the central point

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<v Speaker 14>of the next camp, of the next election campaign. And

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<v Speaker 14>I say bring it on because the more people see

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<v Speaker 14>if Peter Dutton, they like him, and the more they

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 14>see of Anthony Alberanizi they less they like him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah bye, It's.

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<v Speaker 8>Going to be an ugly campaign. Actually right, but that's

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<v Speaker 8>what Labour all about.

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 3>Well that's what the polls show, that's for sure. Stay

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 3>with us panel. We're going to take a quick break.

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>The absolutely ridiculous way Australian aviation authorities worked out that

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 3>Chinese warships were undertaking live fire drills off our nation's

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<v Speaker 3>east coast, and Trump takes the idea of a firm

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 3>handshake to pretty insane levels.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't go anywhere. Well, welcome back to Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Daniiciti Giorgio filling in for the Man this evening.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get back into it with our Common Sense on

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 3>Steroids panel tonight with Pauline Hanson, Gary Hardgrave and Jason

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 3>mcgar Actually really like that and I'm going to use.

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<v Speaker 2>That one from now on.

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<v Speaker 3>But look, I want to talk about election splashing cash.

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<v Speaker 3>We mentioned this earlier, but we've got some new figures today.

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<v Speaker 3>John Keyo in the Australian Financial Review he had a

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 3>fantastic piece exposing how Albo really is spending like a

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 3>drunken sailor. According to Keoh, it's been the biggest spending

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 3>increase for a first term government since Gough Whitlam in

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<v Speaker 3>the seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course, what does this mean higher taxes?

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<v Speaker 3>Pauline Hanson, you know you mentioned this beforehand, but the

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<v Speaker 3>AFR said that Labor has made some one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>twenty three billion dollars in discretionary spending decisions. And this

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 3>is all under Albo's watch. Where is he getting this

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<v Speaker 3>money from.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, he's putting it on the tab and Taxpan is

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<v Speaker 11>going to pay for it. So putting out selling bonds

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 11>and it's basically a way of printing money. They sell

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 11>the bonds and then they have to pay the money back.

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<v Speaker 11>It's estimated at the moment by next year will be

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<v Speaker 11>paying about fifty billion a year in interest alone paying

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<v Speaker 11>back our debt. They've hit about a trillion dollars at

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<v Speaker 11>the moment, all these promises and increase it. The only

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<v Speaker 11>way you can do it is you have to increase productivity,

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 11>which we haven't and we're per capita in a recession.

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<v Speaker 11>So the only other way they can do it is

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<v Speaker 11>they have to cut their spending, or they have to

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<v Speaker 11>increase taxes. And this is what I said all the time.

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<v Speaker 11>It will probably end up being on the table to

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<v Speaker 11>increase the GSD, which I totally oppose, or they're going

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<v Speaker 11>to have to find other ways of increasing taxes on people.

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<v Speaker 11>We are one of the highest tax countries in the world,

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<v Speaker 11>and we cannot afford to do that, So we have

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<v Speaker 11>to cut government spending. I agree with the coalition cut

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 11>public servants that are in there. We're too many public

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 11>servants and what they get paid compared to the counterparts

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<v Speaker 11>in America is atrocious. It is discussing the amount of

0:33:56.080 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 11>money these public servants are on is way over the top.

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<v Speaker 11>So a lot of cuts can be done and get

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<v Speaker 11>rid of some of these departments. I rather see cutting

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 11>government spending before we tax people more.

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<v Speaker 2>I completely agree. And Gary what it feels like.

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:14.799
<v Speaker 3>You know Albo will say, oh, look free GP appointments,

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:18.439
<v Speaker 3>it's all free. Well, it's actually robbing Peter to pay

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 3>paul is it not.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, it's actually robbing Peter's grandchildren and possibly great grandchildren

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 12>Danika and Pauline. Hanson is right cutting the public sector, though,

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<v Speaker 12>it's got to start.

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<v Speaker 1>At the top.

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<v Speaker 12>We have what I have been terming million dollar mandarins,

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<v Speaker 12>the heads of departments basically on a million dollars in

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 12>a couple of cases and the best part of a

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 12>million dollars in too many others. Hundreds of them around

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 12>the country paid much much more than the ministers. The

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:48.719
<v Speaker 12>ministers are responsible to the Parliament. They are accountable to

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 12>the parliament and through the Parliament to the people. But

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:54.359
<v Speaker 12>the public servants they look at the ministers, and when

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 12>I was a minister, I saw exactly the same thing. Oh,

0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 12>come back when you're you know, at that stage, you know,

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:00.120
<v Speaker 12>when you're on six hundred thousand dollars.

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll treat your kind.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, they get paid much more than their ministers,

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:05.760
<v Speaker 12>and I would.

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:06.439
<v Speaker 1>Actually cut them.

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<v Speaker 12>I would actually put people who are say small business focused,

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 12>people who are everyday Australians who actually understand the real

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 12>struggle that's going on for every day Australian small and

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 12>family business owners would actually be better at running some of

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 12>these departments than the million dollar mandarins. And if we

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 12>start there, I think that'd be a good starting point.

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 12>And Pauline again is right about there's some departments that

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 12>are multiplications, duplications left in a ditch, multiplications of state

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 12>state bodies and so Donika, we're wasting a lot of

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 12>money on stuff. The fact that we've got so many

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 12>people involved in the public sector in this country in

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 12>the middle of them on the front line are terrific,

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:48.839
<v Speaker 12>but absolutely the rest of them, they're just wasting our

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:50.760
<v Speaker 12>money totally.

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 3>We need the doge like where we've got in the

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 3>US at the moment with Elon Musk So we need

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 3>dog here now.

0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:58.319
<v Speaker 2>Look, I want to talk about anti Semitism.

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 3>Last night the Prime Minister was put on the spot

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<v Speaker 3>by a Jewish mother on the ABC.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a look at this.

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<v Speaker 18>You have to understand we're a broken community now, we

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<v Speaker 18>are hurting you're our prime minister, you're our leader. There

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 18>was hate speech at Lukember nothing was done. The hate

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 18>steecher happened on before after October seventh at the Sydney

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<v Speaker 18>Opera House. Nothing was done. We've suffered because nothing was done.

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<v Speaker 18>If you had have done something.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it got.

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<v Speaker 4>The Sunday morning after the October seven terrorist attacks, we

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<v Speaker 4>unequivocally condemned them. On the Monday, which was the next

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<v Speaker 4>day before the Opera House, I did media. I called

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<v Speaker 4>for that activity to not go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>James McGrath, it's all about condemnation with that olbow, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's all words. As we know, there's no real action

0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:58.759
<v Speaker 3>and the tolerance has worn thin. I mean you could

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<v Speaker 3>hear the emotion in that mother's voice.

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<v Speaker 14>Jewishstans have never felt so unsafe in our country, and

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<v Speaker 14>it is because the Prime Minister, Albanezi is a weak

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<v Speaker 14>prime minister. The Prime Minister, the main job of the

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<v Speaker 14>Prime Minister is to keep Australian safe and it is

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<v Speaker 14>a blot on him, and it's actually a blot on

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<v Speaker 14>all of Australia that our fellow Jewish citizens do not

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<v Speaker 14>feel safe in this country. And the responsibility must stay

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<v Speaker 14>with the Prime Minister that he's not going to do

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<v Speaker 14>anything about it because he's just all talk. Remember this

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<v Speaker 14>is the Prime Minister on the day of when the

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<v Speaker 14>synagogue was attacked in Melbourne that he went and played

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<v Speaker 14>tennis over in Perth. This is a prime minister who

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<v Speaker 14>will not tell us when he was told by the

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<v Speaker 14>security services of when he was briefed as to the

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 14>caravan incident in Jiral. We spent most of yesterday in

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<v Speaker 14>estimates asking Peter Wong, who was an apologist for the

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<v Speaker 14>Prime Minister, as to when he was told because she

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<v Speaker 14>was representing him, she refused to answer that question. So

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<v Speaker 14>if the Prime Minister cannot ask, he answer a question

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<v Speaker 14>as to when he was told about a possible mass

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<v Speaker 14>hair incident.

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<v Speaker 8>For what's the good of him?

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<v Speaker 14>He's not keeping Jewish citizens, say, what is the good

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<v Speaker 14>of this prime minister?

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<v Speaker 8>Nothing? He's just all talk. Here's a bucket of hot air.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what is the point of this Prime Minister?

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, you just feel for Jewish Australians in

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<v Speaker 3>this country right now? And as I said, you could

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<v Speaker 3>hear the emotion in her voice. Now, look, let's talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the Chinese ships, because today we found out the

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<v Speaker 3>surprising way Australian aviation authorities actually worked out that these

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<v Speaker 3>warships were undertaking live fire drills off the East coast.

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<v Speaker 3>A Virgin pilot, Yep, you heard that right, A Virgin

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<v Speaker 3>pilot told air traffic control about the live drills. Forty

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<v Speaker 3>nine flights, at least two were commercial, had to be

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<v Speaker 3>diverted because of this. Pauline Hansen, we're almost out of time.

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<v Speaker 3>But for goodness sake, I mean, that's just extraordinary, is

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<v Speaker 3>it not.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, they don't pick up their waves and the only

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<v Speaker 11>one that did pick up their waves to actually pick

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<v Speaker 11>up the message were the I think it was Virgin

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<v Speaker 11>pilots that actually picked up and transferred it on the

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<v Speaker 11>message on. It's pretty pathetic, isn't it that you have

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<v Speaker 11>to have private airline company that actually picks up the

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<v Speaker 11>Chinese warships there. So I think it's pretty pathetic. I

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<v Speaker 11>think it needs a full investigation into it why it's

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<v Speaker 11>come to that in Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>I completely agree with you. It's just baffling, but nothing

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<v Speaker 3>to see here, says Albo. As usual, Pauline Hanson, James mcguard,

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<v Speaker 3>Gary Hardgrave has been wonderful to chat with you.

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<v Speaker 2>All tonight. Thank you so much for your time here

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<v Speaker 2>on the show. Well stay with us.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming up after the break, Nigel Faraje joins us from

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<v Speaker 3>the UK as a bombshell poll shows his view more

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<v Speaker 3>positively than other political leaders. Don't go anywhere, Welcome back

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<v Speaker 3>to the program. Joining me now from London is Reform

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<v Speaker 3>UK leader Nigel Farage. Nigel, really good to catch up

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<v Speaker 3>with you. Thank you so much for joining us on

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<v Speaker 3>the show this evening. Let's start with a new IPSOS

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<v Speaker 3>poll which reveals that more people are favorable to you

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<v Speaker 3>than other UK political leaders. While Kia Starma's popularity has dropped,

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<v Speaker 3>you are the only leader making gains. Nigel, I imagine

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<v Speaker 3>you must be pretty encouraged by that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you.

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<v Speaker 17>I think what the poll shows is how badly the

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<v Speaker 17>other two are doing compared to me. You know, you know,

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<v Speaker 17>call that English understatement if you like. But no, I

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<v Speaker 17>tell you what's going on. I tell you what's going on.

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<v Speaker 17>We are getting poorer. Gross domestic product per capita is

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<v Speaker 17>going down quarter after quarter after quarter. Our bills are

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<v Speaker 17>going up as a result of net zero policies.

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<v Speaker 1>Our society is in decline.

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<v Speaker 17>You know, you can shoplift now in this country, unless

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<v Speaker 17>you nick more than two hundred quidsworth, the police won't

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<v Speaker 17>even prosecute you. So we're going down madrain. And what

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<v Speaker 17>I'm saying is, do you know what, with the right leadership,

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<v Speaker 17>with guts and courage, we can turn this around. And

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<v Speaker 17>with the others, it just they look so miserable, they

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<v Speaker 17>look so negative. It's like they're prepared to accept decline.

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<v Speaker 17>I'm not, and I think that's what the numbers really

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<v Speaker 17>are telling us.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, and they just look so weak, and it's so refreshing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to save and here from Australia to see

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<v Speaker 3>a leader like yourself who's actually willing to have the

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<v Speaker 3>courage to stand up for the UK and to stand

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<v Speaker 3>up for British values. So there's no doubt that that

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<v Speaker 3>poll's correct. Now, speaking of Donald Trump used his keynote

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<v Speaker 3>speech at Sea Pac to endorse you.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's play a bit of what he said, the leader.

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<v Speaker 5>Of the UK Reform Party, who by the way, did

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<v Speaker 5>really well in that last election. I've been his friend

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<v Speaker 5>for a long time and I wasn't sure am I

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<v Speaker 5>supposed to be his friend or not?

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<v Speaker 8>But it never mattered to me if he did well

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<v Speaker 8>or not.

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<v Speaker 5>I always liked him, but it's easier to like him

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<v Speaker 5>when he got the kind of OZI gud.

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<v Speaker 1>He really took.

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<v Speaker 5>He took it by storm, and they say he's going

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<v Speaker 5>to do even better at this time. Nigel Farage, where

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<v Speaker 5>is Nigel?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Nigel, thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>What a great guy, Nigel.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got to say the left must be an absolute meltdown,

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<v Speaker 3>Ny hearing that from Donald Trump. Now, look, I know

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<v Speaker 3>that you and Donald Trump are quite close, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>how does it feel for you to get an endorsement

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<v Speaker 3>like that on the world stage.

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<v Speaker 17>Well, obviously delighted, And yes I have been a friend

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<v Speaker 17>of his for a long time, and you know I

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<v Speaker 17>stand up for him and he stands up for me,

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<v Speaker 17>and that's the way friendship works. Doesn't mean we always

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 17>agree on everything, but we're friends. What was very interesting

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<v Speaker 17>about the timing of this is that Keir Starmer, our minister,

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<v Speaker 17>is going to the White House on Thursday, So in

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<v Speaker 17>diplomatic terms.

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<v Speaker 1>What Trump did was pretty extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, noous, delicious.

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<v Speaker 2>Really absolutely. I mean I'd love to be on a

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<v Speaker 2>fly on the wall, wouldn't you?

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<v Speaker 3>At a meeting between Kiyo Starmer and Donald Trump. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't imagine it's going to be very stimulating to

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<v Speaker 3>be in.

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<v Speaker 2>A room with Kir Starmer, but I will find out more.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Look, what is pretty clear I've got to say, Nigel,

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<v Speaker 3>is that you are living rent free in the mind

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<v Speaker 3>of Kiir Starmer at the moment you think you'd have

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<v Speaker 3>bigger priorities to worry about, I mean, our legal immigration crime,

0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:43.799
<v Speaker 3>the list goes on instead, he seems to have quite

0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:46.239
<v Speaker 3>an obsessive interest in You have a listen to this.

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<v Speaker 19>Do you want to know what Farge and Reform are

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<v Speaker 19>doing on their rare visits to Parliament. They're voting against

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<v Speaker 19>our employment rights and what of our the NHS. They

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:05.920
<v Speaker 19>want to charge people to use r NHS. They claim

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 19>to be the party of patriotism, but they're falling over

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<v Speaker 19>pootin though they are not the answer for working people

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<v Speaker 19>in Britain.

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<v Speaker 3>Nigel, why can't Kiyosama stop talking about Reform UK.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they're terrified.

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<v Speaker 17>That's why they're absolutely scared out of their wits, because

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<v Speaker 17>they know that working class communities are seeing manufacturing being

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<v Speaker 17>closed down, their domestic bills going up. Open door immigration

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<v Speaker 17>on a scale of this country has never witnessed before,

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<v Speaker 17>and illegal migrants still crossing my channel in boats, and

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<v Speaker 17>all the promises that Starma made just eight months ago.

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<v Speaker 17>Everything is turning to dust. And his voters, his traditional

0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:59.400
<v Speaker 17>voters he fears are going to come to us on

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<v Speaker 17>ma yes, and that he'll have a catastrophe at the

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<v Speaker 17>next election. So yeah, we are deep inside his mind.

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<v Speaker 17>What is interesting is he barely mentions the leader of

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<v Speaker 17>the one hundred and ninety four year old Conservative Party

0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:15.960
<v Speaker 17>can be Badeenock. So what is clear is reform is

0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:19.360
<v Speaker 17>now the opposition Starman knows it, and he's very frightened.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, that's very clear. And Nigel, you mentioned they're

0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:26.440
<v Speaker 3>illegal immigration. I noticed that you made a speech earlier

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<v Speaker 3>in Cornwall. You're vowing to deport migrants who arrived by dinghy.

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<v Speaker 3>Why is this such an important policy for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's so unfair.

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<v Speaker 17>It's unfair on taxpayers that young men who throw their

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<v Speaker 17>documents into the English Channel when they get to our

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<v Speaker 17>twelve mile territorial line so we can't identify them, get

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:50.640
<v Speaker 17>put in four star hotels, get free medical care, free

0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:54.600
<v Speaker 17>dental care, three square meals a day, spending money and

0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:58.000
<v Speaker 17>virtually all of them are allowed to stay forever. That's

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<v Speaker 17>unfair on working people paying tax, but you know who else,

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<v Speaker 17>it's unfair on those people who've legally come to Britain

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<v Speaker 17>as immigrants, paid their way and they see these people

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<v Speaker 17>walking in and being given everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It is wrong.

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<v Speaker 17>It is unfair, and I will add it is also

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<v Speaker 17>a national security threat as we've got young men coming

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:23.440
<v Speaker 17>in from Afghanistan, from Iran, from Iraq and we were

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<v Speaker 17>worn by Isis a few years ago that they would

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<v Speaker 17>flood the continent with their operatives using dinghis So from

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<v Speaker 17>every measure this must stop.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, it's so dangerous. Otherwise, now, I thought this

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:41.480
<v Speaker 3>was quite fascinating because Labour's war on British history seems

0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:46.320
<v Speaker 3>to be continuing. Kia Starmer has removed Winston Churchill portraits

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:50.560
<v Speaker 3>from Parliament and Nigel what kind of a culture war

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:53.919
<v Speaker 3>is Kia Starma waging here by doing this?

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<v Speaker 17>Isn't it funny that Donald Trump has put the bronze

0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:04.960
<v Speaker 17>bust of Winston Churchill back into the Oval Office and

0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:09.440
<v Speaker 17>Keir Starmer is removing all trace The Labour Party are

0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:12.399
<v Speaker 17>basically run by a bunch of human rights lawyers who

0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:16.440
<v Speaker 17>hate Britain, hate Our history, think everything about us is

0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:19.759
<v Speaker 17>totally shameful and would much rather we were part of

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 17>larger agglomerations like the European Union or some form of

0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:28.080
<v Speaker 17>UN government. That's how they think, and they view Churchill

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:31.680
<v Speaker 17>as a villainy. I think they think he's far right.

0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:34.920
<v Speaker 17>You know what they don't realize is the limertism and

0:47:34.920 --> 0:47:38.040
<v Speaker 17>freedoms that we enjoy in Britain and Europe today wouldn't

0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:41.400
<v Speaker 17>even exist if it hadn't been for the courage of

0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:45.160
<v Speaker 17>Winston in standing alone against the Nazi tyranny. But it

0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:47.720
<v Speaker 17>just tells you everything you need to know about these people.

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<v Speaker 17>They are full of self loathing for Britain, British culture

0:47:51.719 --> 0:47:53.960
<v Speaker 17>and British history. And do you know what, in reform,

0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:56.799
<v Speaker 17>we know our past is not perfect, but we're still

0:47:56.880 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 17>very proud of.

0:47:57.480 --> 0:47:59.759
<v Speaker 3>It, absolutely as you should be. And we think this

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:02.520
<v Speaker 3>here in Australia. We should be proud of our past.

0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:05.080
<v Speaker 3>But the Left always tie themselves in knots of guilt

0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:08.240
<v Speaker 3>over and over again. Now look, before we let you go, Nigel,

0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:11.239
<v Speaker 3>I have to get your reaction here on the cancelation

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:15.479
<v Speaker 3>of MSNBC host Joy Raid, and I've got to play

0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:17.080
<v Speaker 3>for you some of her finest moments.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a look at this.

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<v Speaker 10>We do have a fascist ground swell in parts of

0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:22.920
<v Speaker 10>this country.

0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Mainly among white men. Let's be clear.

0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:30.040
<v Speaker 10>The racist tomahawkschad, the gesture and chant, promoting stereotypes, caricatures,

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:33.440
<v Speaker 10>and frankly hatred of Native American people. Similarities to what

0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:36.799
<v Speaker 10>happened in Germany and what's happening now in America are

0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:40.480
<v Speaker 10>just undeniable. History may not repeat, verbeat them, but it

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<v Speaker 10>sure does.

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<v Speaker 2>Rhyme, Ah, Nigel, We're almost out of time.

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<v Speaker 3>But whatever will we do without the race Beta herself.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, bigoted, over opinionated, miserable.

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<v Speaker 1>Goodbye, good riddance.

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<v Speaker 2>Say you later.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely a pleasure catching up with you. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 3>much for joining me on the show this evening, and

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<v Speaker 3>thank you so much for your company at home. That

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<v Speaker 3>is all we've got time for this evening. Paul Murray

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<v Speaker 3>will be back tomorrow night, but stay with us here

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<v Speaker 3>on Sky News. Up next is the Late Debate.

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<v Speaker 2>Good night,