Speaker 1: Skying new Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: I'm Dadikidi Giorgio filling in tonight the great Man Paul Murray.
Speaker 3: We've got a huge show ahead. The Prime Minister becomes
Speaker 3: increasingly angry and combative. He really has his grumpy pants on.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you why in a moment. We've got a
Speaker 3: common sense of steroids. Panels standing by Pauline Hansen, Gary
Speaker 3: Hardgrave and James McGrath.
Speaker 2: How's that for a lineup?
Speaker 3: And we'll go live to the UK to catch up
Speaker 3: with Nigel Farage.
Speaker 2: I'll ask him about a new poll revealing.
Speaker 3: He is more popular than other political leaders. But first tonight,
Speaker 3: you know we are about to enter an election campaign
Speaker 3: when the Prime Minister dotts his cricket outfit for the cameras.
Speaker 3: There he is all suited up in white, posing alongside
Speaker 3: Olympic breakdancer Rachel ray gun Gun remember her all for
Speaker 3: an annual backyard charity cricket match at Kirabilly House. Once
Speaker 3: again there's Albo with his dog, moonlighting as the everyday man.
Speaker 3: And you know the campaign is imminent when Albo starts
Speaker 3: peddling out tragic lines and slogans like this one.
Speaker 4: There is no opposition health policy. They just said on
Speaker 4: Saturday in something that it was sincere as a fake
Speaker 4: Tan said that he'd match it well a little fade away,
Speaker 4: just like a fake tan does.
Speaker 3: Jeez, it makes a lot of sense, doesn't it. And
Speaker 3: for the record, there is nothing wrong with fake Tan.
Speaker 3: But the bizarre optics have started and we aren't even
Speaker 3: in campaign propaet. If this is Labour's new strategy of
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris esque word vomit and jargon, it's going to
Speaker 3: make for an exhaustive campaign. And it seems as though
Speaker 3: this is not the only strategy being adopted by Labor,
Speaker 3: because it's become increasingly obvious. When the Prime Minister has
Speaker 3: had enough of serious and important questions by reporters, the
Speaker 3: strategy is to snap and avoid. He seems to be
Speaker 3: only comfortable and at ease when he is talking about
Speaker 3: Peter Dutton.
Speaker 2: Now as we know, the polls.
Speaker 3: Are bad for Albo and as he and his policies
Speaker 3: get more desperate, he gets more angry. The Prime Minister
Speaker 3: was today spreaking his eight point five billion dollar Medicare pledge,
Speaker 3: pretending like Dutton has not pledged the exact same policy
Speaker 3: and was asked a genuine question who's paying for it?
Speaker 2: But ALBO doesn't want a bar of it.
Speaker 4: The economists are saying that this pre election spending is
Speaker 4: going to have to pay for be paid for by
Speaker 4: taxpayers paying in the form of bracket creep. What this
Speaker 4: is is an investment.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure we.
Speaker 1: Have an answer on bracket creeper.
Speaker 2: He is bracket creeper problem that you'll see to.
Speaker 6: Address through more become tax cutsk in the next term
Speaker 6: Australians with.
Speaker 4: Respect. Paul, I did answer the question. Mightn't be the
Speaker 4: one that you like, but I did answer the question.
Speaker 3: Well, it's not whether the reporter likes the answer or not.
Speaker 3: It's that important question for us the public to get
Speaker 3: clarity on who is paying and how. And this is
Speaker 3: important because, according to the Australian Financial Review, ALBO has
Speaker 3: overseen the biggest spending increase for a first term government
Speaker 3: since Goff Whitlam in the nineteen seventies. Labor has made
Speaker 3: more than one hundred and twenty billion dollars worth of
Speaker 3: discretionary spending decisions from its three budgets, and there are
Speaker 3: billions more in yet to be accounted for election promises
Speaker 3: like the increase in bulk billing.
Speaker 2: In fact, economist Chris Richardson.
Speaker 3: Has warned there's only one real possibility to pay for it,
Speaker 3: and that's through higher income taxes and bracket creep. So
Speaker 3: there's certainly nothing free about Albo's free GP visits. He's
Speaker 3: on a spending bonanza with our money, and the contempt
Speaker 3: he shows when he snaps at the very question of
Speaker 3: it tells you everything you need to know about this
Speaker 3: Prime Minister. He will do and say anything to win,
Speaker 3: but not when he's.
Speaker 2: Asked about it.
Speaker 3: Then, of course, at the weekend, three Chinese warships took
Speaker 3: part in live fire drills off the East coast. This
Speaker 3: is serious because we're talking about lives at stake, as
Speaker 3: passenger jets were re rooted.
Speaker 2: And again, guess what, Albo didn't want a bar of it.
Speaker 6: He needs to be looking at some sort of a
Speaker 6: punishment for China, like trade restrictions or anything like that.
Speaker 4: You do know that most of the trade goes from
Speaker 4: here to there, not the la around. And I've worked
Speaker 4: pretty hard.
Speaker 1: That's this escallation from China.
Speaker 7: Warrantay Shongo Defense response from Australia Prime Minister.
Speaker 4: Well, I've answered the respect I have answered the questions.
Speaker 3: Seriously, Prime Minister China, he's at our doorstep in a
Speaker 3: provocative manner, threatening our sovereignty, and you've apparently had enough
Speaker 3: talking about it. Beijing would lap it up because his
Speaker 3: silence is what China wants from Australia's handsome boy. And
Speaker 3: it happened again last week when he was asked about
Speaker 3: the timing of the election.
Speaker 2: Bout around in the election, they might coincide's so boring.
Speaker 2: It's so boring, the question, the questions.
Speaker 1: That no get around.
Speaker 4: It's fantastic, just one of the initiatives, what's boring, has
Speaker 4: questions about election timing and because she asked it, I've
Speaker 4: been asked it for a year.
Speaker 2: Doesn't want to know about that either.
Speaker 3: And on his quasi New Year election campaign it happened again.
Speaker 1: That's not our slogan.
Speaker 8: Good try.
Speaker 3: Is there a one word slogan, one sentence slogan, good use?
Speaker 4: I mean we're using We've done this with backdrops, We've
Speaker 4: done with media releases. I'm not sure which LMP member
Speaker 4: has sent you that question to ask, but they should
Speaker 4: pay attention. And you should be cautious about just reading
Speaker 4: out things that are sent from the LMP.
Speaker 7: It's time for you to concede that your pledge to
Speaker 7: reduce electricity crisis by two hundred and seventy five dollars
Speaker 7: by this year, for whatever reasons, that's not going to happen.
Speaker 1: Is that fair?
Speaker 4: Well, one of the things that we did, of course,
Speaker 4: was I have three hundred dollars energy bill relief.
Speaker 7: That's not my question in fair that was a coalition
Speaker 7: with the two hundred and seventy five dollars.
Speaker 5: I know that.
Speaker 2: But you get to do the questions.
Speaker 4: I get to do the answers.
Speaker 2: That's all I'll work now.
Speaker 3: The Prime Minister just doesn't want to talk about what matters.
Speaker 3: Does he cost of living electricity, keeping the lights on
Speaker 3: in this country, paying.
Speaker 2: For your bills?
Speaker 3: And what's abundantly clear is a failure to communicate because
Speaker 3: unless he knows about a subject or doesn't want to
Speaker 3: talk about it, the more he gets angry. And compare
Speaker 3: this to what he talking about. Peter Dutton.
Speaker 4: Peter Dutton, when he was Health Minister, ripped fifty billion
Speaker 4: dollars out of the hospital system. Peter Dutton, who has
Speaker 4: never supported very clearly on his own record supported free healthcare.
Speaker 4: Peter Dutton can't be trusted. Peter Dutton slashing and cuts,
Speaker 4: that's a matter for Peter Dutton.
Speaker 3: Peter Dutton is the Prime Minister's security blanket. It is
Speaker 3: the only topic he's comfortable with. Yet, what we need
Speaker 3: is a prime minister who fronts up, who doesn't shrivel
Speaker 3: at the thought of being asked important questions, who stands
Speaker 3: up for our values, who has a real plan to
Speaker 3: take this country forward. What does this Prime minister stand for,
Speaker 3: because honestly, the lack of leadership suggests he doesn't even
Speaker 3: know the answer to that himself. Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke,
Speaker 3: who I've got to say, is having his very own
Speaker 3: oprah winfree moment where everyone gets a citizenship. Yes, you
Speaker 3: get a citizenship, and you get a citizenship. Anyone can
Speaker 3: apparently come into this country. I mean, we've got record
Speaker 3: high migration as it is, but we will give you
Speaker 3: a citizenship.
Speaker 2: In exchange for your vote.
Speaker 3: That's how it appears to work under Labor, and Burke
Speaker 3: really thinks we're all mugs, as if we don't realize
Speaker 3: what Labor is doing here, weaponizing citizenship, guaranteeing all these
Speaker 3: new citizens twelve five hundred at that will be eligible
Speaker 3: to cast their vote on election day in what could
Speaker 3: be an attempt to win over marginal seats. And now,
Speaker 3: thanks to some great reporting by James O'Doherty in the
Speaker 3: Daily Telegraph, we now know many of those who gained
Speaker 3: citizenship at the weekend alone, there were four thousand, five
Speaker 3: hundred of them live in battleground seats that could decide
Speaker 3: the election.
Speaker 2: Have a look at this.
Speaker 3: Of those, nine hundred and seventy live in the Paramatta
Speaker 3: local government area. The electorates covered there include the marginal
Speaker 3: Labour seats of Paramatta held with a margin of three
Speaker 3: point seven percent, as well as Read held on a
Speaker 3: margin of five point two percent. And then the next
Speaker 3: highest number of citizens came from Liverpool, mainly covering the
Speaker 3: Labor electorates of Werrower held on a margin of five
Speaker 3: point three percent and Fowler held by Independent Diale on
Speaker 3: a margin of just one point four percent. About two
Speaker 3: hundred and ninety new citizens came in Ride, which is
Speaker 3: entirely within the ultra marginal seat of Benelong held by Labor.
Speaker 3: In fact, that's where Labor was today now with the
Speaker 3: exception of Fowler, these seats are expected to come down
Speaker 3: to the wire the Home Affairs Secretary. He said that
Speaker 3: all new citizens met the requirement for citizenship, including four
Speaker 3: years living in Australia and one year as a permanent resident.
Speaker 3: But it appears that Tony Burke and Labor are banking
Speaker 3: on the fact that these migrants.
Speaker 2: Will reward Labor with their vote in marginal.
Speaker 3: Seats forgiving them their citizenship, despite his assurances on Sky
Speaker 3: News on Friday that that was not the case.
Speaker 7: This is a good opportunity. I had no idea which
Speaker 7: way these individuals are going to vote. You know, I
Speaker 7: don't know if you know which way they're going to vote.
Speaker 7: They're people who want to make a pledgure commitment to Australia.
Speaker 3: Oh please, six thousand citizenships over three days. It's a
Speaker 3: buying votes exercise. That's exactly what it looks like. You
Speaker 3: need citizenship to vote, and you need it at least
Speaker 3: a week before an election to cast it, so Labor
Speaker 3: can spare us. This was all about efficiency nonsense, But
Speaker 3: probably the most telling information came from Home Affairs Secretary
Speaker 3: Stephanie Foster at Senate estimates were.
Speaker 6: There in fact document holders from Palestine who had granted
Speaker 6: citizenship at these ceremonies.
Speaker 9: This person reports there were, Yes, there were, Senator. All
Speaker 9: conferees met the requirements, which includes four years in Australia
Speaker 9: and one year as a permanent resident.
Speaker 6: How many Palestinian conferees there are as part of this.
Speaker 10: Process, Senator, there's twenty three, twenty three who've been invited.
Speaker 9: Senator.
Speaker 3: Now, let's not forget Burke's seat is in Muslim vote
Speaker 3: territory in Western Sydney. Labour is already under pressure from
Speaker 3: Muslim votes in that area. We know hence why it's
Speaker 3: sold out our values for votes in the ongoing anti
Speaker 3: Semitism crisis. Labour needs every vote from Western Sydney it
Speaker 3: can get, but at what cost, especially at a time
Speaker 3: when people are worried about immigration. More than one point
Speaker 3: one million people have come into this country under Labor
Speaker 3: and nobody ever voted for a big Australia. Yet here
Speaker 3: we are, and there are some people who have come
Speaker 3: here who hate our values, some hate Australia, and some
Speaker 3: have no interest in assimilating. And you can't tell me
Speaker 3: this is not about votes, but a whole troop of
Speaker 3: labor MPs were present at the mass citizenship bonanza, Yet
Speaker 3: The Daily Telegraph reports a Liberal senator, who was required
Speaker 3: to be invited under citizenship ceremony rules, was only told
Speaker 3: of the event two days beforehand, nine days after mayors
Speaker 3: were notified. While Tony Burke, on the other hand, instructed
Speaker 3: his staff to schedule his calendar around photo opportunities with
Speaker 3: new citizens.
Speaker 6: Is it necessary for him to attend them for them to.
Speaker 9: Occur, No, Senator, but it's not uncommon.
Speaker 6: Right, so why should it dependent on his availability?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 6: If this is about clearing the backlog, what's the relevance
Speaker 6: of his availability?
Speaker 9: So, Senat, that's a question I think for Minister.
Speaker 6: No, it's a question for you, because you agreed with
Speaker 6: the minister. With the minister's limited availability for this schedule, the.
Speaker 9: Minister asked us to share your ceremonies. He gave us
Speaker 9: a window of availability and we scheduleselves.
Speaker 6: So he directed you to hold these ceremonies when he
Speaker 6: was available to attend them.
Speaker 2: The game is up, Burke. We know what you are doing.
Speaker 3: And if you really want to talk about efficiency, how
Speaker 3: about start canceling visas of people who should not even
Speaker 3: be allowed in this country. But I guess that won't
Speaker 3: get you the votes where you need them the most.
Speaker 3: Let's get into it now. Joining me is our common
Speaker 3: sense on steroids panel. That's what we're calling it tonight.
Speaker 3: One Nation leader Pauline Hanson, HELLNP Senator James McGrath and
Speaker 3: Sky and News contributor Gary Hardgrave. Great to have the
Speaker 3: three of you on. Thank you so much for joining
Speaker 3: me on the show this evening.
Speaker 2: It's good to see you. Now.
Speaker 3: Look we've got to start with Lydia Thope because.
Speaker 2: She's at it again.
Speaker 3: In a closed door talk at a so called anti
Speaker 3: racism symposium put together by Queensland University of Technology, the
Speaker 3: now independent senator urged Indigenous Australians to plant the Aboriginal
Speaker 3: flag on land and make white people pay to visit
Speaker 3: why to assert sovereignty apparently over the nation. She said, quote,
Speaker 3: we have to organize and strategize and take over our
Speaker 3: land like they did. We need to start putting our
Speaker 3: own flags into our own land and.
Speaker 2: F the colony.
Speaker 3: Pauline Hanson f the colony, she said, what do you
Speaker 3: make of this latest identity politics intervention?
Speaker 11: She hasn't changed a tune, has she she's an activist
Speaker 11: on the floor of Parliament and actually in the last
Speaker 11: sitting of Parliament she turned and she said to me,
Speaker 11: she said, you be paying rent soon. Pauline. Oh, that's
Speaker 11: what she says to me all the time. Go back
Speaker 11: where you came from. You know, your stole land, you're
Speaker 11: paying rent. Honestly, I'm so over her. She's if she's
Speaker 11: not doing the cause any good whatsoever with her activism.
Speaker 11: She goes to the Queensland University, comes up here and
Speaker 11: she actually calls problems at these universities. She's trying to
Speaker 11: get the young ones, well Brian Wash through her educational
Speaker 11: system then at universities, and that's what she's trying to do. Hopefully,
Speaker 11: this is the last three years that she'll have in
Speaker 11: Parliament and she won't get voted in again. At the
Speaker 11: next election. She'd be an independent and I'll be pleased
Speaker 11: to see the back end of her.
Speaker 8: Oh.
Speaker 3: Look, I mean, if if any of us said the
Speaker 3: same thing to her, Pauline Hanson, we would all be
Speaker 3: in trouble. I mean, we wouldn't hear the end of it.
Speaker 3: But of course no, it's all right. When she says
Speaker 3: something like that to you, it's just extraordinary.
Speaker 2: Gary.
Speaker 3: How is it ever appropriate to have race betas like
Speaker 3: this representing our country?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 1: Never.
Speaker 12: But people are entitled to a view and she's entitled
Speaker 12: to hers, and it's self evident to most people.
Speaker 1: I ran a poll.
Speaker 12: I'm hosting the before We See Drive program here in
Speaker 12: Brisbane these days, and we ran a pole on the
Speaker 12: question of which members of Parliament would you like to mute?
Speaker 12: And she just went through the roof. She won the
Speaker 12: mute the member pole hands down. Let me tell you,
Speaker 12: people wanted to shut up.
Speaker 1: And go away.
Speaker 8: And look, you know, but when you're you know, enemy.
Speaker 12: Is digging themselves into a deeper hole in them keep digging,
Speaker 12: I say, but look, it's pretty self evident. How stupid
Speaker 12: it is. There is a flag for the Aboriginal people.
Speaker 12: It's the same flag for all Australians. It's the one
Speaker 12: Australian flag. I don't know why we need to actually
Speaker 12: have much of a debate. The only flag that needs
Speaker 12: to fly is the Australian national flag. It's been a
Speaker 12: beautiful flag that was designed a long time ago by
Speaker 12: a competition back you know, right at the beginning of
Speaker 12: Australia nineteen hundred and one.
Speaker 1: I don't get.
Speaker 12: I just don't get what the point of her point
Speaker 12: is because I don't believe it's traditional for Aboriginal flags
Speaker 12: to actually exists an e. Look, I'm more more annoyed
Speaker 12: about the Qut people who continue to try and dabble
Speaker 12: in this space and everything just keeps blowing up on them.
Speaker 12: We shouldn't be funding these universities. I think it's about
Speaker 12: time we actually defunded some of these universities which are
Speaker 12: turning into activists, people who just simply want to get
Speaker 12: this kind of rubbish out there on the streets. I
Speaker 12: don't think there's any instruction and this this is about indoctrination. Well,
Speaker 12: the funding to the universities for a year, I'm not impressed.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 3: We have seen absolute poor performance from universities across this
Speaker 3: country since October seven, twenty twenty three, and this is
Speaker 3: one prime examply when they're giving voices to people like this,
Speaker 3: it is absolutely unacceptable. Look, let's move on to Welcome
Speaker 3: to Country. Because the Northern Territory is Chief Minister, I've
Speaker 3: got to give it to her. Lea Fanochiaro. She deserves
Speaker 3: a medal for being brave and standing up against these
Speaker 3: welcome to country culture wars. Let me walk you through
Speaker 3: what's actually happened at last week's bombing of Darwin anniversary ceremony.
Speaker 3: There was no shortage of wealthlcome to countries, but the
Speaker 3: Chief Minister, however, she chose not to do one.
Speaker 2: Have a look at this.
Speaker 13: I'd like to pay special acknowledgment to the veterans here today,
Speaker 13: to territorians, to serving men and women, to the families
Speaker 13: and descendants of survivors, ladies and gentlemen, but also importantly
Speaker 13: to our children.
Speaker 3: Now she's copped a lot of criticism and instead of recoiling,
Speaker 3: she's actually doubled down. I've got to say, at last,
Speaker 3: a leader who's not afraid to pander to this garbage
Speaker 3: which is constantly all the time shoved down our throats.
Speaker 2: Senator James McGrath, did she do the right thing here?
Speaker 14: She so did the right thing. Leah is a friend
Speaker 14: of mine. I've known her since twenty twelve when I
Speaker 14: was campaign director up in the Northern Territory when the
Speaker 14: colp won and Leah ran for the first time. Leah
Speaker 14: is a born and bred Territorian. She will stand up
Speaker 14: for all territorians and fight for all territorians, regardless of
Speaker 14: their color, whether they've been here since the dream time
Speaker 14: or there a new arrival into Australia. And what she
Speaker 14: said at the commemoration of the bombing of Darwin, to
Speaker 14: acknowledge the veterans, to acknowledge the families, to acknowledge the children,
Speaker 14: it was a colorblind acknowledgment. She wanted to unite the
Speaker 14: territory and not divide the territory. We need more politicians
Speaker 14: like Lea. Just compare her to say Albanesi and look
Speaker 14: at the difference between Albanesi and Dutton. We need more Duttons,
Speaker 14: we need more LEAs, we need fewer Albanesis, and we
Speaker 14: need fewer of the winging, whining, woke brigade who do
Speaker 14: a lot of talking but don't do any delivering. She'll
Speaker 14: leave the Northern Territory a better place when she leaves politics.
Speaker 14: The same cannot be said for the Labor Party who
Speaker 14: rented into the ground.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and it's about being strong and pushing back and
Speaker 3: not being fearful of pushing back. This is what Leafanochiara
Speaker 3: said this morning when responding to that criticism.
Speaker 15: Have a listen, We had a Welcome to Country by
Speaker 15: James Parfitt, and I just don't think every speaker needs
Speaker 15: to do it. The feedback I get from the community
Speaker 15: and acknowledgments of country is that territories and this is
Speaker 15: literally their words, Lara. They feel like it's been rammed
Speaker 15: down their throat under Labor. So I think it's it's
Speaker 15: very fair to have a welcome to country and they
Speaker 15: absolutely have their place, but we've just been indoctrinated by
Speaker 15: a Labor government over eight years who have shamed people
Speaker 15: into feeling like they have to do something that lacks genuine,
Speaker 15: genuine nature and is tokenistic.
Speaker 3: Pauline Hanson, I know that you have been very vocal
Speaker 3: when it comes to welcome to countries. You must be
Speaker 3: relieved to finally see a leader not caving in.
Speaker 2: She's my kind of woman.
Speaker 11: I love her. I think she's parliament.
Speaker 2: I turn my back on it.
Speaker 11: In Parliament. I'm the only one where's everyone else? So
Speaker 11: you know you need James, you need more. Pauline Hansen's
Speaker 11: on the floor of Parliament. That's what you need. It
Speaker 11: stood and she has not backed down from it, and
Speaker 11: it is and I hear all the time from people
Speaker 11: they're second tired of having ram down their throats. No
Speaker 11: Aboriginal has more right to this country than I do.
Speaker 11: I was born here and I'm fed up with it.
Speaker 11: And corporations in councils everywhere, even on everywhere that you go.
Speaker 11: It's welcome the country. When you're in a bloody plane,
Speaker 11: every time you land, welcome the country.
Speaker 2: I just like screaming.
Speaker 11: I thought, no, I better not say anything, otherwise they
Speaker 11: won't let me on the plane again. I do know
Speaker 11: when to keep quiet.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we all, let's be honest, we all
Speaker 3: are very polite when it comes to this matter. But
Speaker 3: I was at the Sky News Anti Semitism summit last week,
Speaker 3: a wonderful event put on by Sharry Marsin and Alex Ripton,
Speaker 3: And when Mark Drayfus took the stage at a synagogue,
Speaker 3: the first thing he does is an acknowledgment to country.
Speaker 2: The timing was just shocking.
Speaker 3: But there was an audible groan throughout the entire synagogue.
Speaker 3: Gary Hardgrave because firstly the time and place was just shocking,
Speaker 3: But secondly, how much longer can we sit there and
Speaker 3: be polite?
Speaker 12: And full points to the lea Fanoccuiro look let's face it,
Speaker 12: that is really where people are at. If you want
Speaker 12: to do that and acknowledge the various people in the crowds, fine,
Speaker 12: particularly if there's a representative, a leader of a local
Speaker 12: community to be the leader of this community, that community, the.
Speaker 1: Aboriginal community, whatever.
Speaker 12: But the idea I've been to seminars and meetings where
Speaker 12: the agenda runs for an hour and twenty five minutes
Speaker 12: of it is welcome the country. Because by the time
Speaker 12: you hire somebody in, whether they're going to have a
Speaker 12: bit of smoke or something else, some people do some
Speaker 12: really nice ones, like they say, look, we're all Australians together.
Speaker 12: I had somebody do that outside City Hall, Brisbane a
Speaker 12: year or so ago. I think he was a descendant
Speaker 12: of part of the Nevill Bonner family and he said,
Speaker 12: you know, let me tell you the story, and major
Speaker 12: feel welcome, like you learned a little.
Speaker 8: Bit of knowledge.
Speaker 12: But the token istic thing where they acknowledge elder's past,
Speaker 12: present emerging and whatever whatever it is, just has lacked sincerity.
Speaker 12: It lacks any real gravitas as a result, And let
Speaker 12: me tell you, getting off those planes, as Senator Hanson
Speaker 12: has suggested, you hear you think it's the.
Speaker 1: Engine still running.
Speaker 12: The grown is so loud from people, and frankly Quantas
Speaker 12: and others who do this need to stop this. I
Speaker 12: saw somebody came off a Cata flight from the Middle
Speaker 12: East and they said, what was great about landing in
Speaker 12: Melbourne on the Catter flight? Was they actually, that's not
Speaker 12: Bob Catter, that's Kata the country. They didn't acknowledge country
Speaker 12: when they laved it. They found it really pleasant.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, for once, maybe we need
Speaker 3: to go take these international flights because I've sick to
Speaker 3: death of going an hour in Melbourne. Welcome to your country.
Speaker 3: I've been here the whole time for goodness sake.
Speaker 2: Now look still on the culture.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, vandals have targeted a Captain Cook statue in Fitzroy Gardens,
Speaker 3: allegedly attempting to cut off the statue's head.
Speaker 2: You know, here we go again. We see this time
Speaker 2: and time again.
Speaker 3: The nearby cottage was defaced with anti Cook comments, the
Speaker 3: statue copping some apparent damage to the neck. You know,
Speaker 3: James McGrath, this is symptomatic of the left's sustained push
Speaker 3: to demonize our history.
Speaker 2: And what more do we expect?
Speaker 14: Yea, the left hate nordern Australia. The left hate everything
Speaker 14: that's happened in Australia since seventeen eighty eight and since
Speaker 14: nineteen hundred and one, that they think it is all
Speaker 14: all bad. My view is we've got a great country. Yeah,
Speaker 14: we've got some our history sometimes could have been a
Speaker 14: bit better, but you go around the world and it's
Speaker 14: a pretty ugly place out there.
Speaker 8: At times.
Speaker 14: Australia is a fantastic country. But the left, they hate it.
Speaker 14: And what happens is when the left are in power.
Speaker 14: You look at Victoria with the socialist left running that state.
Speaker 14: You look here in Canberra where you've got a socialist
Speaker 14: left prime minister. Is that actually also soft on crime?
Speaker 14: So you have two things come together, a hatred of
Speaker 14: modern Australia and being soft on crime, and so no
Speaker 14: wonder you've got vandals and criminals getting away with attacking
Speaker 14: our history, attacking.
Speaker 8: Who we are.
Speaker 14: Because Captain Cook, he was one of the world's most
Speaker 14: brilliant navigators.
Speaker 8: This he discovered Australia.
Speaker 14: He gets a gold medal for that, but in terms
Speaker 14: of his navigational skills, he gets two gold medals for that.
Speaker 14: Because he was such a fantastic sailor, and he came
Speaker 14: from such a humble background, which he is, someone who
Speaker 14: actually was the Australian dream before the concept of Australia
Speaker 14: came into being. So we should defend him, defend his
Speaker 14: statue and defend our history.
Speaker 3: Well, we cannot erase history. I mean, that's the reality.
Speaker 3: And we're sick to death of the Left. And every
Speaker 3: time it's Captain Cook, it's Captain Cook. Enough already, it's
Speaker 3: just out of control. Now that we've got to talk
Speaker 3: about Albo. I mentioned this earlier in mytorial, but this
Speaker 3: has got to be a new low when it comes to.
Speaker 2: Campaign attack lines. If this is what.
Speaker 3: Albo is offering up now, it's going to be a
Speaker 3: very long and exhaustive election campaign.
Speaker 2: I'll just remind you of those comments. Here we go.
Speaker 4: There is no opposition health policy. They just said on
Speaker 4: Saturday in something that it was sincere as a fake
Speaker 4: Tan said that he'd match it well a little fade away,
Speaker 4: just like a fake Tan does.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's wrong with a fake Tan now.
Speaker 3: Pauline Hanson, who is advising Anthony Albanezi here, because I've
Speaker 3: got to say that was an absolute shocker.
Speaker 11: It's been a shock of the whole way through. And
Speaker 11: when he became Prime Minister, I did a trip with
Speaker 11: him over to India. I was actually disgusted with his
Speaker 11: ability to actually lead the parliamentary delegation over there and
Speaker 11: talk to leaders. And when he got elected they asked me,
Speaker 11: I said, nice bloke, no leader, And I've been right
Speaker 11: and what I said, he just doesn't have the qualities
Speaker 11: to understand how the people are feeling and how to lead.
Speaker 11: All he's ever done right through his whole term is
Speaker 11: to blame the Coalition for everything he's had three years.
Speaker 11: Even up to the last week in parliament last year
Speaker 11: or this year, I should say, they're still blaming the
Speaker 11: Coalition for problems that they're having instead of getting on
Speaker 11: with the job taking responsibility for his own actions and
Speaker 11: what he's put through in legislation. They can't even get
Speaker 11: the legislation right. They put it on the floor of
Speaker 11: Parliament and before it's even passed, they're putting up amendments
Speaker 11: to their own legislation. Everything's been band aidd all the time.
Speaker 11: The most incompetent government, the worst ministers I've ever seen
Speaker 11: in a parliament, and Anthony ALBERIZI is he doesn't know
Speaker 11: how to deal with the costs of living and the
Speaker 11: Medicare is a sham. And I looked at these figure Stanika,
Speaker 11: he's actually spending around about three hundred and sixty billion
Speaker 11: dollars more. That's not even the promises that he's come
Speaker 11: out in the selection campaign. So it's put this whole
Speaker 11: country into about a debt of another four hundred plus
Speaker 11: billion dollars.
Speaker 3: I mean, that is frightening. And this is a thing
Speaker 3: because he's being asked about it at these press conferences.
Speaker 3: How are you funding all of these promises? He's snapping
Speaker 3: at reporters, He's getting angry about it. Reality is is
Speaker 3: it's you and I who are going to be paying
Speaker 3: for it. He's just not being upfront. And I've got
Speaker 3: to say, just on that point there, and Gary one
Speaker 3: ask you about this. Why is Anthony Arberinez he so
Speaker 3: obsessed with Peter Dutton And I said this earlier because
Speaker 3: he only seems to be at ease when he's talking
Speaker 3: about Dunton. The rest of the time, there is such
Speaker 3: an acute failure to communicate.
Speaker 12: Yeah, look, Deniga, let me just walk this through very slowly.
Speaker 12: Anthony was born and raised in public housing. You may
Speaker 12: not have heard that, and.
Speaker 16: He carries it, carries with him the awful reality that
Speaker 16: while he's accumulated a great deal of a property portfolio,
Speaker 16: he's actually now living rent free in public housing.
Speaker 12: Again, two nice houses, one with a really terrific view,
Speaker 12: and Peter Dutton is living rent free in his mind.
Speaker 12: And this obsession with attacking Peter Dutton just shows you
Speaker 12: that Peter is kind of framing the narrative and has been, frankly,
Speaker 12: for most of this Prime Minister's term. Peter Dutton's been
Speaker 12: the one that's been leading the debate on energy. The
Speaker 12: fact is that Anthony Alberanezi's government has presided over one
Speaker 12: of the greatest drops in the quality of living, and
Speaker 12: the cost of living increases.
Speaker 8: That's impacting every Australian.
Speaker 12: You've got bulk building problems simply because doctors, like all
Speaker 12: the rest of us, can't afford the increase in insurance,
Speaker 12: the increase in electricity. There's small businesses. Doctors, gps are
Speaker 12: small businesses and that's why medicares amount of money doesn't
Speaker 12: cover things, and they've got to find a way to
Speaker 12: keep the doors open for their patients.
Speaker 8: This bloke has absolutely no idea.
Speaker 12: About the way that people are meeting the cost of
Speaker 12: living in is in the supermarket and the Reserve Band
Speaker 12: goes off the ABS statistics and said, oh, you know,
Speaker 12: inflation is sitting in the zone about three percent.
Speaker 2: But Denika, things are going up much.
Speaker 1: More than that.
Speaker 12: Building, building items, items that go into construction, Jip Rock
Speaker 12: and Villeport all going up about eight percent in coming days.
Speaker 12: I mean, he's got no idea because he hasn't had
Speaker 12: to worry about it ever in his life.
Speaker 1: He's never had to worry about this.
Speaker 2: No, he's got all.
Speaker 3: I mean, he grew up in public housing just in case,
Speaker 3: as he said, just in case we didn't know now,
Speaker 3: just just before we had to a break. I mean
Speaker 3: today he lined up with breakdancer Ray garn He joined
Speaker 3: the Breakdancer for an annual cricket charity match.
Speaker 2: To James McGrath.
Speaker 3: I've got to say both have the same level of skill,
Speaker 3: would you agree?
Speaker 17: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I think so.
Speaker 14: She could probably do a better job as being prime
Speaker 14: minister though, because he's a pretty average prime minister. Look,
Speaker 14: it was great they're raising money for charity, but isn't
Speaker 14: it sad that the charity had to raise money because
Speaker 14: Labor had cut mental health funding by five hundred million dollars.
Speaker 8: That's funding we're going to restore us. Great.
Speaker 14: This this, this is a prime minister who wants to
Speaker 14: politicize everything. To Gary's point before that prime Minister is
Speaker 14: obsessed by by Peter Dutton. So is the Labor Party.
Speaker 14: They are going to make Peter Dutton the central point
Speaker 14: of the next camp, of the next election campaign. And
Speaker 14: I say bring it on because the more people see
Speaker 14: if Peter Dutton, they like him, and the more they
Speaker 14: see of Anthony Alberanizi they less they like him.
Speaker 2: Yeah bye, It's.
Speaker 8: Going to be an ugly campaign. Actually right, but that's
Speaker 8: what Labour all about.
Speaker 3: Well that's what the polls show, that's for sure. Stay
Speaker 3: with us panel. We're going to take a quick break.
Speaker 2: Coming up.
Speaker 3: The absolutely ridiculous way Australian aviation authorities worked out that
Speaker 3: Chinese warships were undertaking live fire drills off our nation's
Speaker 3: east coast, and Trump takes the idea of a firm
Speaker 3: handshake to pretty insane levels.
Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere. Well, welcome back to Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 3: I'm Daniiciti Giorgio filling in for the Man this evening.
Speaker 3: Let's get back into it with our Common Sense on
Speaker 3: Steroids panel tonight with Pauline Hanson, Gary Hardgrave and Jason
Speaker 3: mcgar Actually really like that and I'm going to use.
Speaker 2: That one from now on.
Speaker 3: But look, I want to talk about election splashing cash.
Speaker 3: We mentioned this earlier, but we've got some new figures today.
Speaker 3: John Keyo in the Australian Financial Review he had a
Speaker 3: fantastic piece exposing how Albo really is spending like a
Speaker 3: drunken sailor. According to Keoh, it's been the biggest spending
Speaker 3: increase for a first term government since Gough Whitlam in
Speaker 3: the seventies.
Speaker 2: And of course, what does this mean higher taxes?
Speaker 3: Pauline Hanson, you know you mentioned this beforehand, but the
Speaker 3: AFR said that Labor has made some one hundred and
Speaker 3: twenty three billion dollars in discretionary spending decisions. And this
Speaker 3: is all under Albo's watch. Where is he getting this
Speaker 3: money from.
Speaker 11: Well, he's putting it on the tab and Taxpan is
Speaker 11: going to pay for it. So putting out selling bonds
Speaker 11: and it's basically a way of printing money. They sell
Speaker 11: the bonds and then they have to pay the money back.
Speaker 11: It's estimated at the moment by next year will be
Speaker 11: paying about fifty billion a year in interest alone paying
Speaker 11: back our debt. They've hit about a trillion dollars at
Speaker 11: the moment, all these promises and increase it. The only
Speaker 11: way you can do it is you have to increase productivity,
Speaker 11: which we haven't and we're per capita in a recession.
Speaker 11: So the only other way they can do it is
Speaker 11: they have to cut their spending, or they have to
Speaker 11: increase taxes. And this is what I said all the time.
Speaker 11: It will probably end up being on the table to
Speaker 11: increase the GSD, which I totally oppose, or they're going
Speaker 11: to have to find other ways of increasing taxes on people.
Speaker 11: We are one of the highest tax countries in the world,
Speaker 11: and we cannot afford to do that, So we have
Speaker 11: to cut government spending. I agree with the coalition cut
Speaker 11: public servants that are in there. We're too many public
Speaker 11: servants and what they get paid compared to the counterparts
Speaker 11: in America is atrocious. It is discussing the amount of
Speaker 11: money these public servants are on is way over the top.
Speaker 11: So a lot of cuts can be done and get
Speaker 11: rid of some of these departments. I rather see cutting
Speaker 11: government spending before we tax people more.
Speaker 2: I completely agree. And Gary what it feels like.
Speaker 3: You know Albo will say, oh, look free GP appointments,
Speaker 3: it's all free. Well, it's actually robbing Peter to pay
Speaker 3: paul is it not.
Speaker 12: Well, it's actually robbing Peter's grandchildren and possibly great grandchildren
Speaker 12: Danika and Pauline. Hanson is right cutting the public sector, though,
Speaker 12: it's got to start.
Speaker 1: At the top.
Speaker 12: We have what I have been terming million dollar mandarins,
Speaker 12: the heads of departments basically on a million dollars in
Speaker 12: a couple of cases and the best part of a
Speaker 12: million dollars in too many others. Hundreds of them around
Speaker 12: the country paid much much more than the ministers. The
Speaker 12: ministers are responsible to the Parliament. They are accountable to
Speaker 12: the parliament and through the Parliament to the people. But
Speaker 12: the public servants they look at the ministers, and when
Speaker 12: I was a minister, I saw exactly the same thing. Oh,
Speaker 12: come back when you're you know, at that stage, you know,
Speaker 12: when you're on six hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: I'll treat your kind.
Speaker 12: I mean, they get paid much more than their ministers,
Speaker 12: and I would.
Speaker 1: Actually cut them.
Speaker 12: I would actually put people who are say small business focused,
Speaker 12: people who are everyday Australians who actually understand the real
Speaker 12: struggle that's going on for every day Australian small and
Speaker 12: family business owners would actually be better at running some of
Speaker 12: these departments than the million dollar mandarins. And if we
Speaker 12: start there, I think that'd be a good starting point.
Speaker 12: And Pauline again is right about there's some departments that
Speaker 12: are multiplications, duplications left in a ditch, multiplications of state
Speaker 12: state bodies and so Donika, we're wasting a lot of
Speaker 12: money on stuff. The fact that we've got so many
Speaker 12: people involved in the public sector in this country in
Speaker 12: the middle of them on the front line are terrific,
Speaker 12: but absolutely the rest of them, they're just wasting our
Speaker 12: money totally.
Speaker 3: We need the doge like where we've got in the
Speaker 3: US at the moment with Elon Musk So we need
Speaker 3: dog here now.
Speaker 2: Look, I want to talk about anti Semitism.
Speaker 3: Last night the Prime Minister was put on the spot
Speaker 3: by a Jewish mother on the ABC.
Speaker 2: Have a look at this.
Speaker 18: You have to understand we're a broken community now, we
Speaker 18: are hurting you're our prime minister, you're our leader. There
Speaker 18: was hate speech at Lukember nothing was done. The hate
Speaker 18: steecher happened on before after October seventh at the Sydney
Speaker 18: Opera House. Nothing was done. We've suffered because nothing was done.
Speaker 18: If you had have done something.
Speaker 2: Then it got.
Speaker 4: The Sunday morning after the October seven terrorist attacks, we
Speaker 4: unequivocally condemned them. On the Monday, which was the next
Speaker 4: day before the Opera House, I did media. I called
Speaker 4: for that activity to not go ahead.
Speaker 3: James McGrath, it's all about condemnation with that olbow, but
Speaker 3: it's all words. As we know, there's no real action
Speaker 3: and the tolerance has worn thin. I mean you could
Speaker 3: hear the emotion in that mother's voice.
Speaker 14: Jewishstans have never felt so unsafe in our country, and
Speaker 14: it is because the Prime Minister, Albanezi is a weak
Speaker 14: prime minister. The Prime Minister, the main job of the
Speaker 14: Prime Minister is to keep Australian safe and it is
Speaker 14: a blot on him, and it's actually a blot on
Speaker 14: all of Australia that our fellow Jewish citizens do not
Speaker 14: feel safe in this country. And the responsibility must stay
Speaker 14: with the Prime Minister that he's not going to do
Speaker 14: anything about it because he's just all talk. Remember this
Speaker 14: is the Prime Minister on the day of when the
Speaker 14: synagogue was attacked in Melbourne that he went and played
Speaker 14: tennis over in Perth. This is a prime minister who
Speaker 14: will not tell us when he was told by the
Speaker 14: security services of when he was briefed as to the
Speaker 14: caravan incident in Jiral. We spent most of yesterday in
Speaker 14: estimates asking Peter Wong, who was an apologist for the
Speaker 14: Prime Minister, as to when he was told because she
Speaker 14: was representing him, she refused to answer that question. So
Speaker 14: if the Prime Minister cannot ask, he answer a question
Speaker 14: as to when he was told about a possible mass
Speaker 14: hair incident.
Speaker 8: For what's the good of him?
Speaker 14: He's not keeping Jewish citizens, say, what is the good
Speaker 14: of this prime minister?
Speaker 8: Nothing? He's just all talk. Here's a bucket of hot air.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is the point of this Prime Minister?
Speaker 3: And you know, you just feel for Jewish Australians in
Speaker 3: this country right now? And as I said, you could
Speaker 3: hear the emotion in her voice. Now, look, let's talk
Speaker 3: about the Chinese ships, because today we found out the
Speaker 3: surprising way Australian aviation authorities actually worked out that these
Speaker 3: warships were undertaking live fire drills off the East coast.
Speaker 3: A Virgin pilot, Yep, you heard that right, A Virgin
Speaker 3: pilot told air traffic control about the live drills. Forty
Speaker 3: nine flights, at least two were commercial, had to be
Speaker 3: diverted because of this. Pauline Hansen, we're almost out of time.
Speaker 3: But for goodness sake, I mean, that's just extraordinary, is
Speaker 3: it not.
Speaker 11: Well, they don't pick up their waves and the only
Speaker 11: one that did pick up their waves to actually pick
Speaker 11: up the message were the I think it was Virgin
Speaker 11: pilots that actually picked up and transferred it on the
Speaker 11: message on. It's pretty pathetic, isn't it that you have
Speaker 11: to have private airline company that actually picks up the
Speaker 11: Chinese warships there. So I think it's pretty pathetic. I
Speaker 11: think it needs a full investigation into it why it's
Speaker 11: come to that in Australia.
Speaker 3: I completely agree with you. It's just baffling, but nothing
Speaker 3: to see here, says Albo. As usual, Pauline Hanson, James mcguard,
Speaker 3: Gary Hardgrave has been wonderful to chat with you.
Speaker 2: All tonight. Thank you so much for your time here
Speaker 2: on the show. Well stay with us.
Speaker 3: Coming up after the break, Nigel Faraje joins us from
Speaker 3: the UK as a bombshell poll shows his view more
Speaker 3: positively than other political leaders. Don't go anywhere, Welcome back
Speaker 3: to the program. Joining me now from London is Reform
Speaker 3: UK leader Nigel Farage. Nigel, really good to catch up
Speaker 3: with you. Thank you so much for joining us on
Speaker 3: the show this evening. Let's start with a new IPSOS
Speaker 3: poll which reveals that more people are favorable to you
Speaker 3: than other UK political leaders. While Kia Starma's popularity has dropped,
Speaker 3: you are the only leader making gains. Nigel, I imagine
Speaker 3: you must be pretty encouraged by that.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you.
Speaker 17: I think what the poll shows is how badly the
Speaker 17: other two are doing compared to me. You know, you know,
Speaker 17: call that English understatement if you like. But no, I
Speaker 17: tell you what's going on. I tell you what's going on.
Speaker 17: We are getting poorer. Gross domestic product per capita is
Speaker 17: going down quarter after quarter after quarter. Our bills are
Speaker 17: going up as a result of net zero policies.
Speaker 1: Our society is in decline.
Speaker 17: You know, you can shoplift now in this country, unless
Speaker 17: you nick more than two hundred quidsworth, the police won't
Speaker 17: even prosecute you. So we're going down madrain. And what
Speaker 17: I'm saying is, do you know what, with the right leadership,
Speaker 17: with guts and courage, we can turn this around. And
Speaker 17: with the others, it just they look so miserable, they
Speaker 17: look so negative. It's like they're prepared to accept decline.
Speaker 17: I'm not, and I think that's what the numbers really
Speaker 17: are telling us.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and they just look so weak, and it's so refreshing.
Speaker 3: I'm going to save and here from Australia to see
Speaker 3: a leader like yourself who's actually willing to have the
Speaker 3: courage to stand up for the UK and to stand
Speaker 3: up for British values. So there's no doubt that that
Speaker 3: poll's correct. Now, speaking of Donald Trump used his keynote
Speaker 3: speech at Sea Pac to endorse you.
Speaker 2: Let's play a bit of what he said, the leader.
Speaker 5: Of the UK Reform Party, who by the way, did
Speaker 5: really well in that last election. I've been his friend
Speaker 5: for a long time and I wasn't sure am I
Speaker 5: supposed to be his friend or not?
Speaker 8: But it never mattered to me if he did well
Speaker 8: or not.
Speaker 5: I always liked him, but it's easier to like him
Speaker 5: when he got the kind of OZI gud.
Speaker 1: He really took.
Speaker 5: He took it by storm, and they say he's going
Speaker 5: to do even better at this time. Nigel Farage, where
Speaker 5: is Nigel?
Speaker 1: Thank you, Nigel, thank you?
Speaker 2: What a great guy, Nigel.
Speaker 3: I've got to say the left must be an absolute meltdown,
Speaker 3: Ny hearing that from Donald Trump. Now, look, I know
Speaker 3: that you and Donald Trump are quite close, but I mean,
Speaker 3: how does it feel for you to get an endorsement
Speaker 3: like that on the world stage.
Speaker 17: Well, obviously delighted, And yes I have been a friend
Speaker 17: of his for a long time, and you know I
Speaker 17: stand up for him and he stands up for me,
Speaker 17: and that's the way friendship works. Doesn't mean we always
Speaker 17: agree on everything, but we're friends. What was very interesting
Speaker 17: about the timing of this is that Keir Starmer, our minister,
Speaker 17: is going to the White House on Thursday, So in
Speaker 17: diplomatic terms.
Speaker 1: What Trump did was pretty extraordinary.
Speaker 17: Yeah, noous, delicious.
Speaker 2: Really absolutely. I mean I'd love to be on a
Speaker 2: fly on the wall, wouldn't you?
Speaker 3: At a meeting between Kiyo Starmer and Donald Trump. I mean,
Speaker 3: I can't imagine it's going to be very stimulating to
Speaker 3: be in.
Speaker 2: A room with Kir Starmer, but I will find out more.
Speaker 3: Now, Look, what is pretty clear I've got to say, Nigel,
Speaker 3: is that you are living rent free in the mind
Speaker 3: of Kiir Starmer at the moment you think you'd have
Speaker 3: bigger priorities to worry about, I mean, our legal immigration crime,
Speaker 3: the list goes on instead, he seems to have quite
Speaker 3: an obsessive interest in You have a listen to this.
Speaker 19: Do you want to know what Farge and Reform are
Speaker 19: doing on their rare visits to Parliament. They're voting against
Speaker 19: our employment rights and what of our the NHS. They
Speaker 19: want to charge people to use r NHS. They claim
Speaker 19: to be the party of patriotism, but they're falling over
Speaker 19: pootin though they are not the answer for working people
Speaker 19: in Britain.
Speaker 3: Nigel, why can't Kiyosama stop talking about Reform UK.
Speaker 1: Because they're terrified.
Speaker 17: That's why they're absolutely scared out of their wits, because
Speaker 17: they know that working class communities are seeing manufacturing being
Speaker 17: closed down, their domestic bills going up. Open door immigration
Speaker 17: on a scale of this country has never witnessed before,
Speaker 17: and illegal migrants still crossing my channel in boats, and
Speaker 17: all the promises that Starma made just eight months ago.
Speaker 17: Everything is turning to dust. And his voters, his traditional
Speaker 17: voters he fears are going to come to us on
Speaker 17: ma yes, and that he'll have a catastrophe at the
Speaker 17: next election. So yeah, we are deep inside his mind.
Speaker 17: What is interesting is he barely mentions the leader of
Speaker 17: the one hundred and ninety four year old Conservative Party
Speaker 17: can be Badeenock. So what is clear is reform is
Speaker 17: now the opposition Starman knows it, and he's very frightened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, that's very clear. And Nigel, you mentioned they're
Speaker 3: illegal immigration. I noticed that you made a speech earlier
Speaker 3: in Cornwall. You're vowing to deport migrants who arrived by dinghy.
Speaker 3: Why is this such an important policy for you?
Speaker 1: Because it's so unfair.
Speaker 17: It's unfair on taxpayers that young men who throw their
Speaker 17: documents into the English Channel when they get to our
Speaker 17: twelve mile territorial line so we can't identify them, get
Speaker 17: put in four star hotels, get free medical care, free
Speaker 17: dental care, three square meals a day, spending money and
Speaker 17: virtually all of them are allowed to stay forever. That's
Speaker 17: unfair on working people paying tax, but you know who else,
Speaker 17: it's unfair on those people who've legally come to Britain
Speaker 17: as immigrants, paid their way and they see these people
Speaker 17: walking in and being given everything.
Speaker 1: It is wrong.
Speaker 17: It is unfair, and I will add it is also
Speaker 17: a national security threat as we've got young men coming
Speaker 17: in from Afghanistan, from Iran, from Iraq and we were
Speaker 17: worn by Isis a few years ago that they would
Speaker 17: flood the continent with their operatives using dinghis So from
Speaker 17: every measure this must stop.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, it's so dangerous. Otherwise, now, I thought this
Speaker 3: was quite fascinating because Labour's war on British history seems
Speaker 3: to be continuing. Kia Starmer has removed Winston Churchill portraits
Speaker 3: from Parliament and Nigel what kind of a culture war
Speaker 3: is Kia Starma waging here by doing this?
Speaker 17: Isn't it funny that Donald Trump has put the bronze
Speaker 17: bust of Winston Churchill back into the Oval Office and
Speaker 17: Keir Starmer is removing all trace The Labour Party are
Speaker 17: basically run by a bunch of human rights lawyers who
Speaker 17: hate Britain, hate Our history, think everything about us is
Speaker 17: totally shameful and would much rather we were part of
Speaker 17: larger agglomerations like the European Union or some form of
Speaker 17: UN government. That's how they think, and they view Churchill
Speaker 17: as a villainy. I think they think he's far right.
Speaker 17: You know what they don't realize is the limertism and
Speaker 17: freedoms that we enjoy in Britain and Europe today wouldn't
Speaker 17: even exist if it hadn't been for the courage of
Speaker 17: Winston in standing alone against the Nazi tyranny. But it
Speaker 17: just tells you everything you need to know about these people.
Speaker 17: They are full of self loathing for Britain, British culture
Speaker 17: and British history. And do you know what, in reform,
Speaker 17: we know our past is not perfect, but we're still
Speaker 17: very proud of.
Speaker 3: It, absolutely as you should be. And we think this
Speaker 3: here in Australia. We should be proud of our past.
Speaker 3: But the Left always tie themselves in knots of guilt
Speaker 3: over and over again. Now look, before we let you go, Nigel,
Speaker 3: I have to get your reaction here on the cancelation
Speaker 3: of MSNBC host Joy Raid, and I've got to play
Speaker 3: for you some of her finest moments.
Speaker 2: Have a look at this.
Speaker 10: We do have a fascist ground swell in parts of
Speaker 10: this country.
Speaker 2: Mainly among white men. Let's be clear.
Speaker 10: The racist tomahawkschad, the gesture and chant, promoting stereotypes, caricatures,
Speaker 10: and frankly hatred of Native American people. Similarities to what
Speaker 10: happened in Germany and what's happening now in America are
Speaker 10: just undeniable. History may not repeat, verbeat them, but it
Speaker 10: sure does.
Speaker 2: Rhyme, Ah, Nigel, We're almost out of time.
Speaker 3: But whatever will we do without the race Beta herself.
Speaker 17: Yeah, bigoted, over opinionated, miserable.
Speaker 1: Goodbye, good riddance.
Speaker 2: Say you later.
Speaker 3: Absolutely a pleasure catching up with you. Thank you so
Speaker 3: much for joining me on the show this evening, and
Speaker 3: thank you so much for your company at home. That
Speaker 3: is all we've got time for this evening. Paul Murray
Speaker 3: will be back tomorrow night, but stay with us here
Speaker 3: on Sky News. Up next is the Late Debate.
Speaker 2: Good night,