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Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.

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Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, December thirty one, twenty twenty five. We first

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Speaker 1: met Robert Irwin when he was an adorable toddler. Now

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Speaker 1: he's sending women wild for very different reasons, because the

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Speaker 1: twenty two year old wildlife activist also happens to be charming, sensitive,

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Speaker 1: talented and a very smooth dancer. Today, Bianca far Marcus

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Speaker 1: joins us to discuss, with only a few blushes, this

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Speaker 1: remarkable young man's global success.

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Speaker 2: The winners and new champions of Dancing with the Stars

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Speaker 2: are Robert.

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Speaker 3: And wel.

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Speaker 1: Bianka far Marcus is The Australian's Content director of Culture

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Speaker 1: and Bianca I'm used to you writing about very highbrow

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Speaker 1: art forms, the ballet, the opera, but become the Robert

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Speaker 1: Erwin correspondent at the paper.

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Speaker 3: How did that happen?

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Speaker 2: Well, aside from the fact that it's one of the

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Speaker 2: most coveted positions, it really was down to a matter

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Speaker 2: of who actually knows anything about dance In the office

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Speaker 2: and at the time, between walking at the photos that

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Speaker 2: came out of the finale for Dancing with the Stars,

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Speaker 2: I was selected to do the honor.

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Speaker 1: Robert Irwin, the son of Stephen Terry Erwin, who's become

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Speaker 1: famous to a new generation in Australia, probably through a

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Speaker 1: Bond's ad campaign and I'm a celebrity, Get me out

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Speaker 1: of here. Yes, has just one Dancing with the Stars US. Now,

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Speaker 1: it's probably hard for us here in Australia to grasp

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Speaker 1: how big a deal this.

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Speaker 3: He is right, No, it is definitely.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think we had a Dancing with the

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Speaker 2: Stars of our own. It was liked enough, but not

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Speaker 2: enough to last the test of times. You know, similar

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Speaker 2: to shows like Maths that we know will possibly never

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Speaker 2: die off from the airwaves. But in the US it

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Speaker 2: attracts massive audiences and it still has this kind of

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Speaker 2: old school sort of appeal, whereas in the days of

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Speaker 2: you know, your American and your Australian Idols, people would

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Speaker 2: vote in and pick their favorites and that would have

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Speaker 2: such a determining factor, and Dancing with the Stars leverages

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Speaker 2: that in the sense that judges will give their scores

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Speaker 2: usually out of thirty. In the case of the finale

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Speaker 2: it was out of ninety. And then we saw, particularly

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Speaker 2: with Robert Irwin, he was slated to come second, but

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Speaker 2: the second the audience votes were brought in, it actually

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Speaker 2: swayed the decision, and he, you know, took the crown

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Speaker 2: and the beloved and very iconic.

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Speaker 3: Trophy of the Disco Ball.

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Speaker 1: What did you think of his dancing?

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Speaker 2: I actually think it was superb in terms of technique

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Speaker 2: and in terms of showmanship. For someone who genuinely went

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Speaker 2: in with no sort of prior training or anything, he

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Speaker 2: was incredible. Some of the dancers, salsers, rumbas, tangos, they're

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Speaker 2: not easy art forms first and foremost, it's very difficult

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Speaker 2: to dance on your own. It's harder to dance with

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Speaker 2: a partner. And he brought such a charisma, such a showmanship,

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Speaker 2: as we saw with the infamous are You going to

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Speaker 2: Be My Girl? Dance routine to the Jet song, which

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Speaker 2: was just explosive. Someone take my hand and carn with

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Speaker 2: me because it looks so fun.

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Speaker 3: I don't really want.

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Speaker 2: To make it that he has this steely gaze that

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Speaker 2: even some of the best dances of our generation of

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Speaker 2: the world cannot necessarily just switch on like. It's an

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Speaker 2: amazing bold in the beautiful type seductive appeal, and it

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Speaker 2: does make the difference between what is someone who's a

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Speaker 2: technically good dancer and someone who is just a star.

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Speaker 3: And he was.

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Speaker 2: I mean he leapt from the judge's table with a

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Speaker 2: broken rib and managed to pull off a whole ninety

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Speaker 2: second dance routine.

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Speaker 1: Did you get that sense with Robert Irwin that his partner,

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Speaker 1: Whitney Carlson was having to drag him around the floor.

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Speaker 3: Probably at the start, definitely.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's the balance between being extremely nervous and

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Speaker 3: But she actually to bring out quite a unique.

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Speaker 2: Range in him, and I think she sort of forced

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Speaker 2: but also leveraged his physicality. I will probably mention this

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Speaker 2: several times throughout this conversation, but he is uniquely buff

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Speaker 2: and there is an inherent athleticism to him that she

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Speaker 2: managed to choreograph around quite well. So there was a

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Speaker 2: so not your traditional ballroom. It was for the dedication round,

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Speaker 2: and it was just this beautiful tableau of very slow

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Speaker 2: his upper body strength, blushing.

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Speaker 3: I am blushing, and he's too young even for me.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, this is what I'm enjoying about it,

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Speaker 1: actually because the older women I used to feeling a

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Speaker 1: how old are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm thoroughly enjoying the faith that you are

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Speaker 1: now also a creepy old lady.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is the thing I feel like.

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Speaker 2: Also, this was part of the reason I was allowed

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Speaker 2: to write about it. But still even then, there's a

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Speaker 2: bit of a line that I feel like I'm crossing regardless.

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Speaker 2: Back to the dancing, just these beautiful moments within that

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Speaker 2: contemporary dance where he was hoisting her above his head

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Speaker 2: and just obviously she's doing the majority of the work right,

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Speaker 2: like she's the one holding the leg up, performing the

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Speaker 2: arabesques and making this what is an already exceptional image,

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Speaker 2: just this photographic moment, and there were so many that

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Speaker 2: came out of what he did, but it also just

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Speaker 2: brought this beautiful range to him, and I think that's

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Speaker 2: what's appealed to audiences With Robert Off the stage, he

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Speaker 2: has this emotional depth that I think has not ever

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Speaker 2: been found disingenuous. I think he's quite I mean The

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Speaker 2: New York Times wrote an article this week saying he

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Speaker 2: actually is that nice. And you've never heard a bad

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Speaker 2: word about Robert Irwin, which clearly resonated on stage.

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Speaker 1: His social media is full of him pulling over his

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Speaker 1: car in the African jungle to rescue with endangered something

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Speaker 1: or other that's trying to crawl across the road. This

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Speaker 1: is while he was on set for I'm a Celebrity,

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Speaker 1: Get me out of here.

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Speaker 3: It's a chameleon. Look at him. This is my favorite

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Speaker 1: Look at that beautiful prehensile tail. He does seem to

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Speaker 1: be a genuinely good and nice person, highly intelligent, very

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Speaker 1: thoughtful person. But he's also making conservation hot and we

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Speaker 1: got him off the road just in time.

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Speaker 3: You nearly got run over there, buddy. Look at that.

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Speaker 4: This has made my whole day.

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Speaker 1: This is the serious part of what Robert Irwin does,

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Speaker 1: isn't it. He is obviously enjoying the fact that everybody

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Speaker 1: else is enjoying him as a public figure, but he

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Speaker 1: always brings it back to conservation.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and you know what I think.

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Speaker 2: It makes him a very, very extremely rare breed of celebrity.

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Speaker 2: So in terms of your contemporary celebrity appeal, there's the

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Speaker 2: has a world of mystique around them. There's really no

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Speaker 2: section that is Robert Irwin's public profile, he is a

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Speaker 2: man who loves animals, a man who wears cuban heels

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Speaker 3: All of these things are not cool.

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Speaker 2: All of these things are very sort of earnest and embarrassing,

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Speaker 2: and yet he manages to distill them into something so

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Speaker 2: alluring because he does have an exceptional level of knowledge

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Speaker 2: overall and their impacting conservation has been unparalleled in this country,

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Speaker 2: which we know it's also a bit of an uphill battle,

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Speaker 2: but well that's for another episode.

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Speaker 3: And I think something.

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Speaker 2: Australians don't know is that he was already very famous

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Speaker 2: Australia hadn't really had access to because they were kind

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Speaker 3: Main things to watch.

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Speaker 2: So we got drip fed Steve Irwin and the Irwin

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Speaker 2: family in the early two thousands, whereas in the US

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Speaker 2: they already had deals with Animal Planet, they were already

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Speaker 2: for granted in this country that our greatest cultural export

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Speaker 2: is animals at the end of the day, like it

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Speaker 2: is such a weird fascination snakes, you know, all the marsupials, wildlife.

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Speaker 2: There are things that the wider world finds absolutely enthralling,

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Speaker 2: so you take it in that context.

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Speaker 3: He was born.

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Speaker 2: There was even a film special of his birth at

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Speaker 3: I remember seeing that as a kid.

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Speaker 1: This is making it even more creepy than you find

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Speaker 1: them attractive.

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Speaker 2: Now, growing up, growing up with Robert Irwin, I was

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Speaker 2: actually saying, the last time I saw photos of him

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Speaker 4: Kid.

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Speaker 1: I think their mom might have been cutting their hair

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a good look. Look the co key

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Speaker 2: to glittering suit pipeline was fantastic, But they also watched

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Speaker 2: him in one of the most horrendous moments and the

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Speaker 2: Steve Irwin passed.

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Speaker 3: He was two years old in that moment, and.

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Speaker 2: The picture of that family and the tableau of Terry

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Speaker 2: now assuming this single motherhood role, but also assuming this

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Speaker 2: massive empire of what is a very ethical and very

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Speaker 2: people about it, and then juggling two very young children,

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Speaker 2: when they were at a zoo for an hour or so.

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Speaker 2: I think that trajectory and having that kind of consciousness

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Speaker 2: from that, built such an incredible atmosphere and an aura

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Speaker 3: And what's funny now.

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Speaker 2: Is the dancing with the star segue really was one

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Speaker 2: of the most incredible I think commercial opportunities on behalf

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Speaker 2: of the show, because obviously they saw that ten years prior,

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Speaker 2: his sister Bindi had entered and won, and they managed

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Speaker 2: to convince him to come on. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing about these big reality shows, isn't

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Speaker 1: that they're sometimes seen as a springboard for greater fame,

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Speaker 1: greater celebrity. Bindi used her win quite strategically to bring

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Speaker 1: attention back to the tourist operation in Australia and the

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Speaker 1: conservation work. That's an opportunity potentially for Robert Irla. But

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Speaker 1: the other path for him is massive Hollywood stardom.

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Speaker 3: Yes, do you see him going there?

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Speaker 2: I wonder if he would do that, because he does

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Speaker 2: seem quite fixated and aware of the impact he wants

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Speaker 2: to make on the world. I think that's always been

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Speaker 2: since birth. I think it could follow the route of

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Speaker 2: David Attenborough, go on that whole sort of in depth

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Speaker 3: In many celebrities overall.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, this kind of way that we

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Speaker 2: promoting endometriosis awareness purely because of his sister. He has

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Speaker 2: Get me out of here. Don't know if that really

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Speaker 2: made as much of a splash, but before that, it

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Speaker 2: was the Bonds ad And to see a twenty year

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Speaker 2: old Robert Erwin, who we all knew was that little

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Speaker 2: boy in khakis and napis with a large snake draped

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Speaker 3: Just changed the image of him to the public. But

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Speaker 3: it just wasn't it. I don't know, it wasn't sallacious.

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Speaker 2: There was something about him that made it so fine

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Speaker 2: for both myself and women upwards of thirty years older

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Speaker 2: than me stare in the office and think it's okay

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Speaker 2: to put this on the front page.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't feel like he's being exploited for his look.

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Speaker 1: very goofy smile. When he's not smiling, he is he's moldering. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he smolders. He's stunningly good looking. It's very rare to

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Speaker 1: see him not smiling. And that's what you say about

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Speaker 1: very composed. Yeah, we just need him to maybe smile less.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I know. I mean there is that.

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Speaker 2: There was that study a while ago that women are

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Speaker 2: beautiful when they smile and men aren't, and I firmly

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Speaker 2: believe that that might be the case to this day.

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Speaker 3: Bianka far Marcus, thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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