Speaker 1: From the sky in center. This is Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 1: I didn't win Powerable either. Apparently the winner is somebody
Speaker 1: in South Australia. So if in the next couple of
Speaker 1: days your next door neighbors just bought a brand new
Speaker 1: boat after last week win have enough money, that might
Speaker 1: be the little giveaway. But like many Australians, that frustration
Speaker 1: what was it, one hundred and fifty million bucks was
Speaker 1: on the table. One of the joys of the lottos
Speaker 1: and all the rest of it is, Look, you know
Speaker 1: you're not going to win, but in the time between
Speaker 1: when you buy the ticket and I still go into
Speaker 1: what you know, if there's a news agency that's still
Speaker 1: around within twenty five kilometers of joint, I still go
Speaker 1: in and get the physical ticket, and you know, just
Speaker 1: for a day you can think about the cars you
Speaker 1: might buy one hundred and fifty mil, the houses you
Speaker 1: might be able to buy. And the good news about
Speaker 1: those houses is that under the Albanese government you will
Speaker 1: get a credit for your power because those houses are
Speaker 1: apparently just the same as the one bedroom housing commissioned once. Oh,
Speaker 1: you'd be thinking that we're going to travel like don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, let's still work. I'd bring a camera
Speaker 1: with me, but it'd be like, good anything tonight from
Speaker 1: New York. We'd be doing a lot of shows from
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. I wouldn't lie. But of course, you know,
Speaker 1: reality now sits in and we're back to our normal
Speaker 1: lives and the fantasy is over. However, if you happen
Speaker 1: to work for the Department of Agriculture, there's something that
Speaker 1: they have built into their workplace that is really going
Speaker 1: to soothe the pain. Lego. Yeah, how's this? Apparently the
Speaker 1: Department of Agriculture lets their staff play with Lego and
Speaker 1: jigsaw puzzles to quote distress. So firstly you pay them
Speaker 1: to work there, but then when you know they're just
Speaker 1: feeling a bit stressy, it's time to go off and
Speaker 1: make Lego. Well done to the Telegraph here because they
Speaker 1: have seen photos apparently of the activity tables that are
Speaker 1: set up by the Federal Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and
Speaker 1: Forestries at Agriculture House in Canberra, and the people who
Speaker 1: apparently saw it were a little shocked at the time,
Speaker 1: which is in part why they told the paper. The
Speaker 1: visitors were told the elaborate jigsaw puzzles on multipiece Lego
Speaker 1: World tables were set up in rooms for staff to
Speaker 1: play when they're feeling strengthed on need time out. Look,
Speaker 1: i don't know what you did for a job, but
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you don't even have time in the
Speaker 1: day to just pull over to the side of the
Speaker 1: road start putting some lego together. You just walk out
Speaker 1: of the office. No, sorry, I'm out of here. I
Speaker 1: just need to do a bit of puzzle work. Can
Speaker 1: I see the photos please? Now, these are the actual
Speaker 1: photos of the actual lego tables that are there to
Speaker 1: destress the workers of the Agriculture de Parma. If that's
Speaker 1: not enough, this is the jigsaw puce. These are adults,
Speaker 1: the adults working in the agriculture department. Now again, when
Speaker 1: people saw this, they were astonished to see the setup
Speaker 1: and they asked staff if they were serious. It was
Speaker 1: put to them that it worked something like a timeouts,
Speaker 1: time out space or a zen garden. Who's got a
Speaker 1: zen garden at work? Imagine that on the building side. Sorry, fellas,
Speaker 1: just one second. I don't know why they're English, but
Speaker 1: you get the point. I'm just gonna go to the
Speaker 1: zen garden. It's hilarious, like a kid's preschool set up
Speaker 1: for snowflake, says the person who reported this to the paper.
Speaker 1: Asked about how much the destressing lego and puzzle game
Speaker 1: space actually cost when it was introduced and its purpose
Speaker 1: a departmental spokesperson. So again, somebody probably has access of
Speaker 1: the playground. The the Public's National Office Agriculture House has
Speaker 1: various formal such as meeting rooms and informal collaboration and
Speaker 1: breakout spaces such as lunch rooms and casual seating. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but anyway about the lego. Remember this government gave itself
Speaker 1: the highest pay rise in ten years if you're a politician,
Speaker 1: the highest pay rise if you're a public servant in
Speaker 1: ten years. But due to the stress of having to
Speaker 1: come into the office and not working from home, like
Speaker 1: way too many public servants still do, I just need
Speaker 1: to go place the lego. Here's an idea if you'd
Speaker 1: like to actually understand what it's like to be stressful.
Speaker 1: If you live in the Agriculture department, baby, you should
Speaker 1: go and do a thing called farming. Actually go and
Speaker 1: have a look at how agriculture actually works. You reckon that.
Speaker 1: Anyone on the back of a track has got time
Speaker 1: to do a crossword puzzle or somebody milking a coward
Speaker 1: to get up at birds this morning and to morrow
Speaker 1: and the day after and the day after, including the weekends,
Speaker 1: has that option, of course, not other people's money, other
Speaker 1: people's priorities, and sadly yet to get an example about
Speaker 1: the people who regulate everything, tell you what you can't do.
Speaker 1: Can't make it through a day without playing like a toddler.
Speaker 1: Speaking of in terms of effectiveness, remember Matt Kean. Matt
Speaker 1: Kean was the Energy and Climate Minister in the former
Speaker 1: nusiba's government before his factional power meant that he ended
Speaker 1: up being the Treasurer of New South Wales. Now he
Speaker 1: is somebody who claims in his heart of hearts to
Speaker 1: be all about renewables. We know at one point in
Speaker 1: time he tried to bring the ghost back, remember as
Speaker 1: a special advisor to the Nussoba's government, but it didn't happen.
Speaker 1: And his time when he was the Climate and Energy
Speaker 1: Minister in New South Wales at the top, what we.
Speaker 2: Want to see is there is an opportunity for people
Speaker 2: to reduce their energy usage.
Speaker 3: So perhaps not using the dishwasher until you go to
Speaker 3: bed that would help.
Speaker 1: What a surprise they lost the election that you are
Speaker 1: paying through the roof for access to the power grid.
Speaker 1: But because people like Matt Kean believe that we need
Speaker 1: to get away from the system that worked to the
Speaker 1: one that might eventually fingers crossed hopefully at work and
Speaker 1: cost are trillion dollars to do so that you know,
Speaker 1: there'll just be little moments where we have to ration
Speaker 1: power like it's the Second World War. Please, Now, as
Speaker 1: you know, the reality is is that some similar warnings
Speaker 1: have been put place, put forward for the past two summers,
Speaker 1: and get ready for the third summer. Now. Now, the
Speaker 1: reason we haven't had blackouts for the past two summers
Speaker 1: since his ideological mate Chris Bowen, Yes, I know, the
Speaker 1: Liberal Party guy who agrees with the Labor Party guy.
Speaker 1: What a massive surprise, Uni Party, Uni Party. But still
Speaker 1: they have said that the grid's held up fine for
Speaker 1: the past couple of years. But the preparation is that
Speaker 1: yet again hot summer, we're going to have blackouts. Why
Speaker 1: because the past two summers, of course, we've had colder
Speaker 1: and wetter summers, which means people haven't all been reaching
Speaker 1: on that one day or two days or a few
Speaker 1: days in a week for the air conditioners, but most
Speaker 1: likely that's going to happen. So in order for New
Speaker 1: South Wales not to have a scenario where when everyone
Speaker 1: reaches for the air conditioner that the power will just collapse.
Speaker 1: As you know by now that Use of Wales government,
Speaker 1: the Labor government has done what that bloke Matt Kean
Speaker 1: wasn't willing to do when the Liberal government was in
Speaker 1: power for the best part of what twelve a dozen
Speaker 1: years or so, and that's to actually extend the life
Speaker 1: of a qual fire power plant, in fact, one of
Speaker 1: the oldest in the country, the Aururing power Plant needs
Speaker 1: to stay on board because lots of state governments around
Speaker 1: the country have of course blown them up. They're blown
Speaker 1: up what used to work because you know, we've got
Speaker 1: to do something about climate change, the one percent of
Speaker 1: the world's problem that Australian is. But in the meantime
Speaker 1: you need to turn off your appliances while we spend
Speaker 1: huge amounts of money moving to a new system. Well,
Speaker 1: thankfully again news and Weal's government under Chris Mins, who
Speaker 1: is playing the Labor Prime Minister Anthony Alberinezi offer break
Speaker 1: showing the reality that we are in a transition, and
Speaker 1: the transition means we have to have gas or coal
Speaker 1: fire power to be able to prop up the system
Speaker 1: until not only there's enough renewable energy built, but enough
Speaker 1: renewable storage built. And as you know, people will now
Speaker 1: be penalized under some power companies, particularly in New South
Speaker 1: Wales if they have solar panels, but they don't have
Speaker 1: a battery worth quite a few thousand dollars in their
Speaker 1: garage to store the power. So in the meantime, the
Speaker 1: best part of what half a billion dollars otherwise known
Speaker 1: as a voice referendum, is how much it will cost
Speaker 1: to keep the car fire pouersation going. Not for another
Speaker 1: twenty years, by the way, just till twenty seven.
Speaker 4: The New South Wales government has secured an agreement with
Speaker 4: Origin Energy to operate the Aurarring Power Station until August
Speaker 4: twenty twenty seven. This temporary and targeted agreement will ensure
Speaker 4: the lights stay on while we manage an orderly exit
Speaker 4: from qualified power.
Speaker 1: Now, of course, there is another way we could get
Speaker 1: baseload power, and that would be nuclear power. Just like
Speaker 1: many other G twenty or G eight nations, many countries
Speaker 1: across Europe are able to pretend that they can be
Speaker 1: supported by renewable power because what actually is pumping things
Speaker 1: is none other than nucular power. Now, as you've heard
Speaker 1: this week, the CSIRO has come out and said too expensive,
Speaker 1: it'll take too long. AI, there's a cost of transition. Well, that,
Speaker 1: of course has been my argument for what fifteen years,
Speaker 1: But those who believe in a renewable future always ignore
Speaker 1: the cost of transition to that future, and that will
Speaker 1: be paid for by one of two things, the government
Speaker 1: or customers. And interestingly, the cost of transition argument is
Speaker 1: the exact one being used by the left left to
Speaker 1: say why nuclear power is not the option. In fact,
Speaker 1: on Criche today, Dutton's nuclear would spike electricity prices when
Speaker 1: and if it was able to start in the twenty forties. Well,
Speaker 1: breaking news to them and anyone else who is of
Speaker 1: the belief that the reason we can't go the new
Speaker 1: grout is because the cost of transition. We have been
Speaker 1: involved in a transition of our power grid at the moment,
Speaker 1: and it has cost, as the CSIRO told us, once
Speaker 1: a trillion dollars. Now they've magically halved it to five
Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars, where several green groups will tell you that,
Speaker 1: of course the building of renewables ends up costing hundreds
Speaker 1: of billions of dollars. It takes up way more space.
Speaker 1: We all know that the life cycle of the solar
Speaker 1: panels is not great. The solar panels come from slave
Speaker 1: labor in China, but don't tell anyone. So I like,
Speaker 1: the argument is, don't go what dud wants to do,
Speaker 1: because it'll be end up with higher electric city prices
Speaker 1: because you have to pay to build it. My exact
Speaker 1: argument about the cost of transition, which has always been
Speaker 1: the central issue, not about whether Australia needed to change,
Speaker 1: but if somebody had to be honest about what that
Speaker 1: change would be. Isn't it amazing when the change is
Speaker 1: the one they don't want, suddenly it costs a lot
Speaker 1: of money. But as you know right now, as anyone
Speaker 1: who's paid a power bill anytime in the past what
Speaker 1: ten years, knows that one of the reasons they keep
Speaker 1: going up and up, up, up, is because the system
Speaker 1: that has worked is being replaced by the one that
Speaker 1: fingers crossed will work into the future. But don't worry.
Speaker 1: When it's all over, it'll be cheaper. Sure, we've got
Speaker 1: to get rid of Andrew Giles, the Immigration minister. Got
Speaker 1: to boot this bloke. He is not up to it.
Speaker 1: I unkindly refer to him as an idiot as a
Speaker 1: minister because he is. Now, as you know, there has
Speaker 1: been literally crimes, assaults, bashings and now a murder, and
Speaker 1: police have accused people who were formally in detention of
Speaker 1: being the people responsible. Obviously a corp will decide if
Speaker 1: they are. But let's have a look here. A person,
Speaker 1: of course has been charged with murder who should never
Speaker 1: never have been allowed out of immigration detention, but they
Speaker 1: were allowed out of immigration detention. And when they were
Speaker 1: not in immigration detention, of course they should have had
Speaker 1: an ankle bracelet, but they didn't end up having the
Speaker 1: ankle bracelet. Now this is as serious as it gets,
Speaker 1: literally a loss of life and the police believing that
Speaker 1: someone who the Immigration Minister had the capacity to deny bail,
Speaker 1: or deny release from immigration detention or put them back
Speaker 1: in immigration detention because of a whole series of other
Speaker 1: things that are alleged to have happened before this day.
Speaker 1: But Andrew Giles gets to stand there and the Westminster
Speaker 1: system of ministerial accountability does not apply to him because
Speaker 1: he is a factional mate of the Prime Minister, because
Speaker 1: he is of the left of the Labor Party, he
Speaker 1: has the stones to say this again, not my faile.
Speaker 5: The AAT made a decision to overturn it, and they
Speaker 5: did so notwithstanding the directions which put a very high
Speaker 5: priority on community safety.
Speaker 1: Now I've heard this before that there's an independent board
Speaker 1: and the independent board made the wrong decision. As we've
Speaker 1: shown you before, he has ultimate oversight. That board is
Speaker 1: able to report up to him as something on serious matters.
Speaker 1: So again his argument is either incompetence or incompetence. And
Speaker 1: now police believe that there is a person who he
Speaker 1: could have stopped from being in the community who they
Speaker 1: believed to be allegedly responsible for a murder. But of
Speaker 1: course it's not just the first time. Remember the guy
Speaker 1: in Western Australia who of course didn't end up having
Speaker 1: the ankle braces that you should have had on and
Speaker 1: federal prosecutors were argued against him getting bail before before
Speaker 1: he was out and about in the community. And of
Speaker 1: course it is alleged to have bashed a woman in
Speaker 1: her seventies in Western Australia. Oh no, that's not my fault.
Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with me. Well, then, of
Speaker 1: course there's the scenario where this government, this minister with
Speaker 1: the people who were brought out as a result of
Speaker 1: the High Court. Remember they could have just done it
Speaker 1: one at a time, but they decided no, holess Bowlers
Speaker 1: that many of the people who had broken the rules
Speaker 1: since coming out, well all of them got completely forgiven.
Speaker 1: Why because they had been given the wrong visa. Now
Speaker 1: remember they tried to blame that back on the Abbot government,
Speaker 1: but it was actually the Guillard government that created part
Speaker 1: of the problem that was ultimately overturned. Then there was
Speaker 1: also the scenario where the invalid visas again resulted in
Speaker 1: former de tenees who breached the visa conditions escaping because
Speaker 1: oh sorry, we got the paperwork wrong. Then there was
Speaker 1: the scenario again about a number of people who basically
Speaker 1: have gone unpunished. The Australian Newspaper has obtained a copy
Speaker 1: of the list of the Australian Federal Police's charges that
Speaker 1: had been abandoned in March because of these sorry we
Speaker 1: let you out on the wrong visa. One hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty two detainees it was at the time. The document
Speaker 1: shows one of the individuals have been charged with ten
Speaker 1: separate counts of breaching curfew. Now remember the punishment for
Speaker 1: that is like about one hundred thousand dollar fine and
Speaker 1: one year in jail. But because this bloke, this department
Speaker 1: got the visa wrong, they get to walk. Now again,
Speaker 1: this bloke has to go. He's got to go because
Speaker 1: of the legitimate dangers that exist to the community. But
Speaker 1: he has to go as responsibility for a system that
Speaker 1: how many times does he get a do over him
Speaker 1: and clueless Claire O'Neil of course his immediate boss. Before
Speaker 1: we get to the Prime minister. Well, remember they actually
Speaker 1: released people after the High Court decision without any visa whatsoever,
Speaker 1: let alone the visa that they then had to replace
Speaker 1: with another visa because that visa was wrong. Andrew Giles
Speaker 1: must go. Now, I know the newcast smell that doesn't
Speaker 1: exist anymore around this government because there is no newcast
Speaker 1: smell after two years. But when there is literally a
Speaker 1: trail of victims in the community and you have provided
Speaker 1: over a system that has failed this many times, even
Speaker 1: if he is the Prime Minister's mate, he has to
Speaker 1: pay a price. There has to be a reshuffle, he
Speaker 1: has to be moved around, or more importantly, actual accountability
Speaker 1: would be that he would be sacked as a minister
Speaker 1: appoint The Liberal parties were making for some time now
Speaker 1: about this blow.
Speaker 3: It is chaos. It is time to move on, It
Speaker 3: is time to change the approach. It is time to
Speaker 3: be tougher on this situation. We're constantly being told this.
Speaker 3: People are being monitored all the time, and yet offense
Speaker 3: after offense is alleged to have been committed by the
Speaker 3: same group. This is abject chaos and it's time for
Speaker 3: the Prime Minister to act.
Speaker 1: Ye bloody Earth. Well done Zoie and well done Chris Kenny.
Speaker 1: Well done to all boy collegues here at Sky News
Speaker 1: who have remained absolutely vigil and on this issue. Same
Speaker 1: cannot be said for the people actually responsible, including both
Speaker 1: of the ministers or a Prime Minister who remembered I
Speaker 1: don't know anything about this stuff. Now I want to
Speaker 1: get into the weeds on an issue that in and
Speaker 1: around Queensland. One of the many reasons why that Miles
Speaker 1: government seems like it is headed for the wood Chapper
Speaker 1: out the upcoming election, and rightly so. Has been one
Speaker 1: of the many failures in and around the health system.
Speaker 1: How many times in a row have I talked about
Speaker 1: the hospital ramping, the people dying, the issues in regional
Speaker 1: Queensland where people who deserve much better medical treatment don't
Speaker 1: end up getting the medical treatment, On and on it goes. Well,
Speaker 1: this one is an example of politicians who want to
Speaker 1: change the subject to something that isn't their actual responsibility.
Speaker 1: Enter into this the current Health Minister, Shannon Fentaman and
Speaker 1: the shadow Health Minister who would look forward to replacing
Speaker 1: her at the upcoming election. As always, this matter comes
Speaker 1: up in Parliament and it particularly came up around the
Speaker 1: maternity services that are completely collapsing as we speak in
Speaker 1: parts of Queensland where literally women in certain sections of
Speaker 1: queens don't have to travel at incredible distances to have
Speaker 1: a baby. Not acceptable. You're a taxpayer. You should be
Speaker 1: able to have a barb at your local hospital. Well,
Speaker 1: Shannon Fentnaman was being asked about this failure in question
Speaker 1: time by the shadow Health Minister and you can see
Speaker 1: that she is answering, and then the shadow Health Minister
Speaker 1: yells something out and then what Shannon Fenjaman go, oh great,
Speaker 1: I can turn this into a Twitter pylon.
Speaker 6: Can I say that all of those mums.
Speaker 1: Across your legs get screened out? Now, remember in the
Speaker 1: Federal Parliament this was pretty grubby stuff and it was
Speaker 1: being thrown around by Lydia Thorpe. Remember that scenario. Well,
Speaker 1: let's now watch Shannon Fentaman, who is on the losing
Speaker 1: side of the argument because she is the one who
Speaker 1: has failed to protect people when it comes to the
Speaker 1: hospital system all the way from people who want to
Speaker 1: have babies through to people who are literally dying in
Speaker 1: the back of ambulances because forty five percent of people
Speaker 1: have to wait in the back of an ambulance before
Speaker 1: they can get anywhere near a hospital bed because there's
Speaker 1: not enough hospital beds. When the speaker notices what's been said,
Speaker 1: what Shannon Fentaman and the penny drop for her, I
Speaker 1: can turn this into, as I say, a Twitter PYLONMB
Speaker 1: mad Bamber Buderba, you will understanding as to withdraw a comment?
Speaker 1: Are we try? You've never seen a person so offended
Speaker 1: and simultaneously happy at the same time. How good is
Speaker 1: this week? And change the subject? Well, for her part,
Speaker 1: the opposition Healths spokesperson who shouldn't have yelled at what
Speaker 1: she yelled out, which is why she withdrew it well.
Speaker 1: She has said that one of the reasons she yelled
Speaker 1: at what she was yelling at was not something sort
Speaker 1: of sexual or offensive to women. She claims that the
Speaker 1: reason that she did it was because of the number
Speaker 1: of women who have to delay birth, potentially because of
Speaker 1: the failures of the queens and health system. With Labor
Speaker 1: suggesting women could just bypass their local hospital and go
Speaker 1: to another hospital to give birth. I could not believe
Speaker 1: Labour was telling mothers to cross your legs while in labor.
Speaker 1: That was the comment that she made, But it didn't
Speaker 1: matter because you see, you had the comment being yelled
Speaker 1: from the evil Liberal Party, the uber feminist who wanted
Speaker 1: to be premiere. But of course Stephen Miles ended up
Speaker 1: with the numbers, so she's got a weight to be
Speaker 1: maybe the opposition leader after the next election if the
Speaker 1: polls are right. Well, she was often running on Twitter.
Speaker 7: Entry rules.
Speaker 1: I now have to repost the video with the correct captions.
Speaker 3: Whether it's cross or close your legs, it's still a barrnt,
Speaker 3: completely insulting.
Speaker 1: So if you have liked to comment or shared the video.
Speaker 5: Please do so again.
Speaker 1: Remember the debate is about the failures of the health system,
Speaker 1: but let's turn it into moral outrage about what is
Speaker 1: being said inside the Parliament and then immediately goes off
Speaker 1: runs on Twitter and well, we can't possibly elect these people.
Speaker 1: They don't understand when you know the usual garbage. Well,
Speaker 1: of course the Twitter pylon works. People start screaming and
Speaker 1: carrying on, and of course it doesn't matter whether they're
Speaker 1: in Queensland, or they're just former Queenslanders or potential Queenslanders
Speaker 1: or people just angry doom scrolling in the middle of
Speaker 1: the night from Tasmania. The pylon begins. So of course
Speaker 1: we get this from the shadow Health Minister.
Speaker 8: I have received viral messages and threats of violence on
Speaker 8: my phone, my email, my social media there and Smilvius
Speaker 8: as a childhood victim of domestic family violence, these threats
Speaker 8: have been terrifying. I now ask that the incitement of
Speaker 8: these threats and stop, and plead with the Health Minister
Speaker 8: and others to take down her misleading and deceitful videos.
Speaker 1: Now she's right about pushing back on the outrage. She
Speaker 1: also has her own personal story to tell. But you
Speaker 1: saw in that exchange there that the reason I shouldn't
Speaker 1: be part of the PILM is because of what's happened
Speaker 1: to me in the past. The reason there should be
Speaker 1: a PILM is because we need to change the subject
Speaker 1: from what we're actually debating in the parliament now. Queens
Speaker 1: Landers will not be voting on this exchange this week,
Speaker 1: but it is a perfect example about a despirit government
Speaker 1: that is in the hole, down in the polls and
Speaker 1: has no record to run on when it comes specifically
Speaker 1: to issues of health. It's what I warn people about
Speaker 1: consistently about as bad as this government is, the Labor
Speaker 1: Party in Queensande is very good at playing politics at
Speaker 1: quick distraction over here, very good at trying to make
Speaker 1: mistakes of the opposition real or imagined in the couple
Speaker 1: of months before an election as the reason that they
Speaker 1: should remain with another four years in power, to only
Speaker 1: make things worse than the last time that they were
Speaker 1: in power. Oh yeah, All MPs have been told to
Speaker 1: be careful about what they do on the socials, but
Speaker 1: the Shadow Health Minister is the one who, of course
Speaker 1: has now been referred to the Ethics Committee for her
Speaker 1: behavior in parliament as opposed to Shannon Fentaman deliberately trying
Speaker 1: to change the subject. This would be the same Ethics
Speaker 1: committee that of course had no judgment on the premiere
Speaker 1: when he was caught lying to the Parliament directly lying
Speaker 1: to the parliament. Of course, there's no upper house. The
Speaker 1: government has the numbers. Will be a kangaroo court that
Speaker 1: will of course try to extend the issue as a
Speaker 1: way of distracting from their own failures, which mount by
Speaker 1: the day. Now on the show were back in small business.
Speaker 1: We're back in small business because obviously it is the
Speaker 1: type of family I was brought up in and it
Speaker 1: is the absolute heart of our country. I have endless
Speaker 1: respect for people who go all in and they back themselves. Now,
Speaker 1: of course this government has no idea about small business.
Speaker 1: Why do I say that because there are only two
Speaker 1: count the two members of the Abanezy cabinet that actually
Speaker 1: claimed to have any experience whatsoever in small business. One
Speaker 1: of them is Don Farrell, who had his own wine
Speaker 1: label when he was out of the Parliament for a
Speaker 1: couple of years. The other is Tony Burke, but I
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what he does, even doesn't mention it
Speaker 1: in his actual bios. That's it. The rest of them
Speaker 1: were either staffers or staffers or staffers or union staffers,
Speaker 1: or union lawyers or union del They don't have experience
Speaker 1: in small business. Small business remember, to the modern Labor
Speaker 1: Party unnecessary because their idea to build a permanent majority
Speaker 1: like they seek to building Queensland like they have built
Speaker 1: to this point in Victoria is that you are either
Speaker 1: dependent on the government when it comes to welfare. That's
Speaker 1: why you vote for them. Yeah, dependent on the government
Speaker 1: because you work for the government. The number of public
Speaker 1: servants has exploded in both states since labor came to power.
Speaker 1: And the third is that if you are in business,
Speaker 1: your biggest client will be the government. Therefore, small business
Speaker 1: or are not part of that all whatsoever whatever, which
Speaker 1: is why when Jim Charmers stood up in the budget,
Speaker 1: not this budget, but the one before that twelve months ago,
Speaker 1: you know, the same budget where they took fifteen hundred
Speaker 1: dollars off ten million workers as the part of the
Speaker 1: instant as part of the instant tax return. You know
Speaker 1: that budget. Well, they made a decision that they were
Speaker 1: going to a continuous system where people were able to
Speaker 1: claim for the small business thousands of dollars on stuff
Speaker 1: for their small business and then we're able to write
Speaker 1: it off against their tax. Well guess what small businesses now,
Speaker 1: I think they won't be able to do that about
Speaker 1: the year that's just gone. Why because the piece of
Speaker 1: legislation required to pass last budgets stuff is currently locked
Speaker 1: up and stuck in the Senate. It's never been passed.
Speaker 1: The run out of time and people who invested money,
Speaker 1: assuming they'd be able to claim it back, will now
Speaker 1: be thousands of dollars in the whole. My suggestion for
Speaker 1: how they might be able to actually get the government
Speaker 1: to give them back what was promised. Maybe delay for
Speaker 1: you the Prime Minister getting not one but two private jets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's talked about it again, talking about it every day.
Speaker 1: I can oh. Week are about cost of living, and
Speaker 1: wikare about small business, and weecare about welfare ps. We're
Speaker 1: getting private jets. You're getting thirty six bucks a week
Speaker 1: or twenty five dollars in power credits plus. Now, as
Speaker 1: you know, I'm more obsessed with the American politics the
Speaker 1: UK politics. It's just my flavor. It's just what I'm into,
Speaker 1: and I get into all the data and details, and
Speaker 1: I talk about the swing states and this and that.
Speaker 1: It's just a thing. I really like it. But of
Speaker 1: course the UK is about to have its election. Richie
Speaker 1: Sunak made the decision to have an early election because
Speaker 1: he had hoped that basically the Labour Party, the machinery
Speaker 1: of it is not quite right. But the election is
Speaker 1: not until July, so I think they'll be able to
Speaker 1: work it out. I've got to say I felt for
Speaker 1: the poor bloke wh're clearly he's going to make an announcement.
Speaker 1: Once you've said you're going to make an announcement, you
Speaker 1: have to make the announcement. Rain, Hail or Shine perhaps
Speaker 1: could have taken it inside. But still, why does everyone
Speaker 1: say that this thing is a foregone conclusion. Let me
Speaker 1: show you the polls, because currently seven out of ten
Speaker 1: people in Britain believe that Keir Starmer will be the
Speaker 1: next prime minister because Labor will win the election. But also,
Speaker 1: how do we get to that point in time? Because
Speaker 1: the current prime minister, well, fifty five percent say that
Speaker 1: he is incompetent, fifty six percent say is indecisive, fifty
Speaker 1: nine percent is untrustworthy, sixty one percent say is week
Speaker 1: and fifty four percent say that he is dislikable. And
Speaker 1: as for the primary vote in the system right now,
Speaker 1: it's basically two to one of Labor in front of
Speaker 1: the Conservatives, and their system works that whoever has the
Speaker 1: highest votes wins the seats, no preferences. By the way,
Speaker 1: if we had this system, we'd have a lot more
Speaker 1: liberal governments than we currently have under our system. And
Speaker 1: speaking of the American election, his Holiness the Pope has
Speaker 1: found a way to have an opinion about one of
Speaker 1: the key, if not big issues coming up at the
Speaker 1: next election in the United States up in November. And
Speaker 1: of course it's to do with the border. It's to
Speaker 1: do with the literally what nine million cadom nine million
Speaker 1: people who have crossed over that border since Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris came to power. It's a
Speaker 1: disgraceful number and it's one of the big reasons why well,
Speaker 1: lots of people in places that you wouldn't expect to
Speaker 1: thinking to vote Trump because nine million people as a
Speaker 1: lot of people who are coming in to the country.
Speaker 1: And recently, I take a news presenta cluse one of
Speaker 1: the version of the six pmes Raders was sitting down
Speaker 1: and having a conversation with his Holiness, and after we
Speaker 1: get a story about her, he has a story about him.
Speaker 7: My grandparents were Catholic, immigrated from Northern Ireland in the
Speaker 7: nineteen thirties to the United States seeking a better life.
Speaker 7: And I know your family too, fled fascism. And you
Speaker 7: have talked about with migrants, many of them children, that
Speaker 7: you encourage governments to build bridges not walls.
Speaker 1: Okay, anyway, the actual Pope says.
Speaker 7: I grew up in Texas, and I don't know if
Speaker 7: you've heard, but the state of Texas is attempting to
Speaker 7: shut down a Catholic charity on the border with Mexico
Speaker 7: that offers undocumented migrants humanitarian assistance. What do you think
Speaker 7: of that?
Speaker 1: Look? That is madness, sheer madness to close the border
Speaker 1: and leave them there. That is madness. Easy for him
Speaker 1: to say, now technically, not technically, but Vatican City it's
Speaker 1: kind of like a country within a country. Remember, So
Speaker 1: what do you think the Pope would do if nine
Speaker 1: million people decided to just park themselves in the middle
Speaker 1: of the Vatican not leave when it's time to leave,
Speaker 1: and say no, we're going to live here. Do you
Speaker 1: reckon that'll be happening anytime soon? Easy for him to
Speaker 1: say what should be happening in America when he knows
Speaker 1: it wouldn't happen where he lives. Quick break back with
Speaker 1: more plea to talk about, including who's the winner and
Speaker 1: loser of the week, and a very special guest will
Speaker 1: join us before we're done tonight. So believe me, you're
Speaker 1: gonna love tonight's show and I'm glad you'd thanks for
Speaker 1: watching beautiful people and speaking oh of Lisa Godar joins
Speaker 1: us now in Brisbane. Michael Kroger joins us in Melbourne.
Speaker 1: Hello to you both now, Michael, I'll start with you
Speaker 1: every day there is some think peace somewhere in the
Speaker 1: great spin of the Australian media that basically runs the
Speaker 1: narrative of people over a certain age. Baby boomers have
Speaker 1: never had it better, got their feed up, spending lots
Speaker 1: of money, and it's their kids and grandkids that end
Speaker 1: up getting affected here you know again, we'll show you
Speaker 1: some of these that are coming up right now. Now.
Speaker 1: There's people I think Ross Gano came out today and said, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's harder to be young now. Than it
Speaker 1: was back then, all the rest of it, right, But
Speaker 1: what do you think about the politics of this, because
Speaker 1: you know many people watching us right now will be
Speaker 1: in that group that supposedly the evil ones that are
Speaker 1: ruining the country. Well, hang on, aren't they also the
Speaker 1: ones who did a lot of work, who've taken care
Speaker 1: of their parents, who were literally their primary care as
Speaker 1: before their parents passed away. They're the ones who went
Speaker 1: without their kids Generation X was able to have their life.
Speaker 1: I hate this stuff. What do you think when you
Speaker 1: read it? And do you think there's a political element
Speaker 1: to this as opposed to sort of looking and dissecting
Speaker 1: a financial.
Speaker 2: Problem over what age are we talking about? By the way, Paul,
Speaker 2: this is the baby boom m that probably includes people
Speaker 2: like me things, So I just wanted to be clarify that, mate. So, well,
Speaker 2: what you're saying is right, you know, of course, you
Speaker 2: know people make sacrifices. But I think the other point
Speaker 2: I'd make is this that COVID has taught older people
Speaker 2: not to waste time. You know, we're not getting any younger.
Speaker 2: Life is very short. If you've made decisions and you
Speaker 2: won't change those decisions, you are stuck with them and
Speaker 2: may not be too much longer. So you know, life
Speaker 2: can end very, very abruptly. And so I think a
Speaker 2: lot of older people because of COVID are thinking, well,
Speaker 2: we've seen the shocking deaths of so many people during
Speaker 2: the pandemic. You know, heart disease, etc. Could happen to anybody.
Speaker 2: So I think people of an older generation are probably
Speaker 2: spending up because you know, the sands of time mate
Speaker 2: are passing through the hourglass.
Speaker 1: But also, Lisa, they're allowed to This is what I
Speaker 1: find so frustrating about all they're allowed to write. You know,
Speaker 1: I won't divulge the personal circumstances of my parents, but jeez,
Speaker 1: they were involved in the care of their parents, you know,
Speaker 1: my stepdad the same. Like the idea that basically, oh,
Speaker 1: how good's this we've inherit at mum and dad's house
Speaker 1: and all of them. But it's just rubbish. It's rubbish, exactly.
Speaker 9: And firstly, Paul, thank you for sending that to michaels
Speaker 9: Way instead of me first tonight. Exactly anyway, and I
Speaker 9: absolutely agree. I know how hard my parents have worked,
Speaker 9: for example, and look, they certainly are out there living
Speaker 9: the high life at all. They've owned their home. They've
Speaker 9: worked hard to get.
Speaker 1: To that point.
Speaker 9: But you know, if you have got the money there,
Speaker 9: Michael's right, you go out and enjoy it and spend it.
Speaker 9: And but the young people today need to learn that
Speaker 9: they need to knuckle down a bit and not have
Speaker 9: that the dream home that's going to be in the
Speaker 9: inner city. They have to accept that they're going to
Speaker 9: have to live in the outer suburbs. And I'm sorry,
Speaker 9: if your older parents want to go out and enjoy
Speaker 9: their life, do it. Because on the flip side of
Speaker 9: this is a reality that the largest sector of this
Speaker 9: society that's found themselves homeless are women over the age
Speaker 9: of fifteen life. They're the sorts of surveys that we
Speaker 9: should be looking at, not the ones that are saying, oh,
Speaker 9: you know, here are these people who have worked hard
Speaker 9: and tut tut tut. They're out there enjoying their life
Speaker 9: and spending money on travel, and the young people can't
Speaker 9: afford their avocado on toast.
Speaker 1: Well again, let alone the divorced bloke who worked way
Speaker 1: longer than he whishpper. I mean, yeah, this is so
Speaker 1: when this generation just gets all put in one basket
Speaker 1: as demographics to cheese. It's insulting to people. So anyway,
Speaker 1: I think it's worth talking about it now. Surprise, surprise,
Speaker 1: but apparently there's a cost of transition when you move
Speaker 1: from one source of energy to another. Michael I was
Speaker 1: shocked by this. The CSIRO, of course put a price
Speaker 1: on nuclear energy. Well, the CSIRO also put a price
Speaker 1: on renewable energy, and the price on renewable energy was
Speaker 1: one t for trillion dollars, but now that's been half
Speaker 1: to only half a trillion dollars. The politics here, Peter
Speaker 1: Dutton is teasing out elements of this in his Budget
Speaker 1: and reply speech. If anyone was actually paying attention to
Speaker 1: the detail about this subject, he said, the locations for
Speaker 1: these things will be existing power plants, all right. The
Speaker 1: idea that one's coming to a suburbaning you is garbage, right.
Speaker 1: The plan is if there used to be a cop
Speaker 1: fire power station, and maybe there'll be a giant battery.
Speaker 1: Battery gets the biscuit and then that's what's going to
Speaker 1: go in. So people who've always lived next to a
Speaker 1: powerplant will be the ones that potentially you would be
Speaker 1: living next to a new form of it. But don't
Speaker 1: you love the lefties now cost of transition matters. Michael hmm.
Speaker 2: But by the way, when you love it, if you
Speaker 2: Announcedutton announced one was going to one of the teal
Speaker 2: seats as he won't do that. But anyway, look, mate,
Speaker 2: I just can't help thinking this whole renewal debate is
Speaker 2: just like running into a fog still. I mean, every
Speaker 2: day where there's potential blackouts that are not we've got
Speaker 2: you know, the end you make it, regulator warning warning
Speaker 2: about power shortages, et cetera, et cetera. We've got Bowen
Speaker 2: spending a fortune. The coal fire power changes are evil,
Speaker 2: but no we need them. You know we need more gas,
Speaker 2: No we don't. You know, we're living off the back
Speaker 2: of revenues from coal and liquid natural gas exports and
Speaker 2: iron ore exports. You know, we've got all in major
Speaker 2: OECD countries in the world going nuclear. But no, it's
Speaker 2: a terrible thing. Oh okay, but we're having nuclear subs
Speaker 2: but nuclear power is terrible. I mean, it's just all
Speaker 2: a fog, this debate, and I think the average person
Speaker 2: their head is spinning, particularly when Albaut promises big savings
Speaker 2: off your inergy ability easy too, Soony five, I know
Speaker 2: you're not I think people are looking for some kind
Speaker 2: of clarity. Bowen just puts everyone's head into a spin.
Speaker 2: Dutton's got sort of some clarity about what he's saying.
Speaker 2: He seems to have a roadmap to go forward, which
Speaker 2: he's releasing piecemeal. And look, ma, I'm not the fan
Speaker 2: of the CSIRA that I was twenty or thirty years ago.
Speaker 2: Since they predicted fifteen or so years ago that we're
Speaker 2: all going to run out of water in all the
Speaker 2: major cities. They seem to have taken the alarmist view
Speaker 2: on global warming and they've just damaged their credibility in
Speaker 2: recent years. They're not who they were. So Dutton's giving
Speaker 2: us some clarity. I'm not sure abo is. And I
Speaker 2: think every time Chris Bowen gets before a microphone and
Speaker 2: his very excited manner, he turns people off. Mate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm absolutely with you, Lisa. Can I talk about that?
Speaker 1: She said? She said thing in and around the Queensland
Speaker 1: Parliament this week. Again, you could not have seen a
Speaker 1: more offended person have an internal smile than Fentamen. And
Speaker 1: then the shadow in turning around and saying hey stop
Speaker 1: the pile on brings up her history. All right, it's
Speaker 1: not a great day for everyone, but still does it
Speaker 1: not give you an insight into how frankly politically craven
Speaker 1: I think the Labour Party is in Queensland here where
Speaker 1: they're going great. We don't have to talk about hospitals.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about how mean the shadow Health Minister is.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you've got hospital ramping sitting at about last time
Speaker 9: I checked forty five point five percent. But what they're
Speaker 9: making a deal out of now is trying to get
Speaker 9: Twitter followers and ex followers and Instagram and Facebook shares
Speaker 9: pushed out there to take a swipe at the opposition.
Speaker 9: So I think look, Ross Bates said and clarified it
Speaker 9: that she said cross your legs. Obviously the government said
Speaker 9: it was something very different which wasn't appropriate.
Speaker 1: It's just mucky.
Speaker 6: It's just murky.
Speaker 9: And the Speaker of the House made a very good
Speaker 9: point where he said that you now have these content
Speaker 9: creators who are after a good copy and that's exactly
Speaker 9: what this has come down to. It's clickbait. They're using
Speaker 9: the floor of Parliament for clickbait and that's what we've
Speaker 9: come down to. Now, while you've got women pregnant women
Speaker 9: around this state in regional areas unable to get.
Speaker 1: To a hospital.
Speaker 9: So I just if you think I looked at that
Speaker 9: and went, you know what, if you're sitting in a
Speaker 9: pub out in regional Queensland somewhere and someone spoke about
Speaker 9: someone being close to giving birth, you may very well
Speaker 9: hear them so well they're better cross their legs before
Speaker 9: they can get to hospital.
Speaker 1: Correct. Look, normal people say things that the polite world
Speaker 1: doesn't actually talk about anymore, and that's certainly what clueing
Speaker 1: is being said in that moment. Now I'm going to
Speaker 1: get to winners and losers, because god a sense, Michael,
Speaker 1: who your winner and loser is going to be and
Speaker 1: your loser is going to? Maybe take a little time
Speaker 1: to explain, who do you think is your winner and
Speaker 1: loser this week?
Speaker 2: No, you got that wrong. The winner today is, obviously
Speaker 2: tonight is the person in Adelaide. Yes, who's collected the
Speaker 2: whole one hundred and fifty million dollars in Powerball one
Speaker 2: winner unless we've got an Adelaide address made at eight US.
Speaker 2: Congratulations to that person. Congratulations of that person on winning that.
Speaker 2: And I'd have to say the lose of the week,
Speaker 2: Rushie Sunak, the British Prime Minister. That was just a
Speaker 2: train wrecking of an interview. And if I saw all
Speaker 2: your stats before, and if you can, you can sum
Speaker 2: up sunk in one stat There was a poll published
Speaker 2: showing have they done a good job or a bad job?
Speaker 2: In immigration right typical core conservative issue. Eight percent thought
Speaker 2: he was doing a good job. Eighty four percent said
Speaker 2: he was not. Rushie Sunac is down with Stephen Miles
Speaker 2: in the category of where I remember Steve Carell that
Speaker 2: famous point in the movie of over the stock market
Speaker 2: crash he said zero zero and that's no not margin
Speaker 2: called the big short. He said zero. Remember he was
Speaker 2: that that continent in Las Vegas. Russy Schunek is with
Speaker 2: your friend Steven Miles down in the category of zero
Speaker 2: chants of being re elected.
Speaker 1: I am with you, I am with you? Orright, Lisa
Speaker 1: Winter a loser we shall see.
Speaker 9: Winner is the lady that was in the media yesterday
Speaker 9: who went from living in a tent in this city
Speaker 9: into a house because of the Salvation Army. And I
Speaker 9: think every other person that the Salvation Army is out
Speaker 9: there trying to put a roof over their heads, while
Speaker 9: the government, like you say, focuses on Twitter fights and
Speaker 9: cheap social media shots and the loser, well, Paul, it
Speaker 9: was going to be the fact that I thought it'd
Speaker 9: be parochial. In Queensland, there's now a church taking the
Speaker 9: four Ex Brewery to court over a decision that is
Speaker 9: going to try and stop them expanding the brewery and
Speaker 9: creating more drinks apart from the beer. But after listening
Speaker 9: to your editorial, I think the loser is every small
Speaker 9: business owner who's going to have a staff member say
Speaker 9: I want a puzzle table and a Lego table to.
Speaker 1: Deal with my stress. Seriously, thank you guys to appreciate
Speaker 1: having wonderful weekend. Love you guys, We'll see you again
Speaker 1: next week, or a quick break back with more some
Speaker 1: very special people with a very important story to tell.
Speaker 1: We'll get to them in a moment or two time,
Speaker 1: and the late debate after that here on sky Newstyff.
Speaker 1: It's been a long time since I lost my little
Speaker 1: boy Leo. You remember that experience. We went through it together,
Speaker 1: and we think about the little people that aren't here
Speaker 1: each and every day, every day, and there are so
Speaker 1: many lovely people that come up and still talk to
Speaker 1: me about it today. In that spirit and the spirit
Speaker 1: of generosity that you've always shown me. I want you
Speaker 1: to show it now to do special people who sadly
Speaker 1: have dealing with the same sense of loss for a
Speaker 1: little girl called Celeste. It is Michelle and Tim mccrana,
Speaker 1: and they joined us. Now I've got your last name wrong.
Speaker 1: I apologize. So Celeste was still born in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one note two thousand and one. I opinably you're about
Speaker 1: to go off and do something in her honor and
Speaker 1: to try to raise money for the Stillworth Foundation. They
Speaker 1: are incredible. Dr Sewan Cehoe and all the people involved
Speaker 1: in are my heroes. You're going to run a thousand
Speaker 1: kilometers from Adelaide to Port Melbourne. You want to try
Speaker 1: to raise a million bucks. That's a long way to run,
Speaker 1: right when you're running for a little person who's not here.
Speaker 1: That's what gives you the strength. But what gives you
Speaker 1: the idea to go for that long a.
Speaker 6: Run solitude, No, basically funding, Like I've done a little
Speaker 6: bit of raising funds for the Stillbirth Foundation before through
Speaker 6: running not a thousand kilometers. I've done one hundred klometers
Speaker 6: and I just felt like I needed to do more,
Speaker 6: Like I just grief is a lifelong thing, so you know,
Speaker 6: and running has been my solitude for dealing with that.
Speaker 6: So I thought to myself before I told Tim, you know,
Speaker 6: what can I do? What I really need to be noticed?
Speaker 6: I need to make like to get a million dollars,
Speaker 6: you need to do something big. And I thought, there's
Speaker 6: so many of these young guys running around Australia and
Speaker 6: doing all this. Why not like, have this I will
Speaker 6: be leaving on my birthday. Have this fifty four year
Speaker 6: old mum run to Port Melbourne from Adelaide.
Speaker 1: That is amazing. Now, Tim, you are a powerhouse. He's
Speaker 1: been relentlessly patient trying to talk to me, but we've
Speaker 1: been able to get you here. And I do appreciate
Speaker 1: it because it's not that there's one person watching that
Speaker 1: needs to give a million bucks. All right, people can
Speaker 1: give a small amount, but enough of them together gets
Speaker 1: us in the right place. We've had this whole conversation
Speaker 1: about a tax card or a power all the rest
Speaker 1: of it, right, run me through some of the Sun's
Speaker 1: right about how small an amount, a relatively small amount
Speaker 1: of people gets us to a million bucks.
Speaker 10: So our first one was looking at one hundred and
Speaker 10: sixty six thousand people giving up coffee for the day,
Speaker 10: so six dollars, well, that.
Speaker 1: Gets us it.
Speaker 10: Australians drink more than two cups a day, so it's
Speaker 10: an easy thing.
Speaker 1: So that is an easy thing for us to do.
Speaker 10: Then another thing recently I think is the government giving
Speaker 10: three hundred dollars to people. We only need three thy
Speaker 10: three hundred people a good point to say, Okay, I
Speaker 10: don't need that three hundred and I'm sure driving around
Speaker 10: Sydney the last few days there's a lot of people
Speaker 10: that don't need it. Correct, I'll donate mine. Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: You're done it many times over.
Speaker 10: Yes, and we could probably do it over the next
Speaker 10: couple of nights to get three thousand, three hundred people
Speaker 10: to donate.
Speaker 1: And look, so let's just get it up there. Get
Speaker 1: everyone seeing right, because you never know who's watching right.
Speaker 1: Still running dot com dot au. Still running dot com
Speaker 1: dot au is the website where hopefully we can get
Speaker 1: a million bucks before you take off, because it is
Speaker 1: going to be in a couple of months time. We're
Speaker 1: going to keep mentioning this a lot in the next
Speaker 1: little while, but give us an idea about what a
Speaker 1: million bucks to the Stillworth Foundation. I mean research, research, research, research, right,
Speaker 1: it's research.
Speaker 6: But also after talking with the foundation with Sean, we're
Speaker 6: over here about a month ago and gaining the understanding
Speaker 6: that they have they know what they need to do.
Speaker 6: You know, there's the newsafer baby bondle that it's like
Speaker 6: an easy thing. It's an awareness program. I would love
Speaker 6: to see a health campaign on TV for something so simple.
Speaker 6: You know, we did slip, slop, slap and stop smoking
Speaker 6: all these things. I mean, that's an easy thing to do.
Speaker 6: But yeah, research, you know, it's it all it's money.
Speaker 6: You need money. Like so, as Sean said, they know
Speaker 6: they know what they need to do, they just need
Speaker 6: the money to be able.
Speaker 9: To do it.
Speaker 1: Jim, I never forget when we're trying to sort of
Speaker 1: put one foot in front of the other. When it
Speaker 1: was Leo, my wife just turned them and said, you're
Speaker 1: Leo's dad, right, And anytime I've ever felt any level
Speaker 1: of adversity, since you go Leo's dat up, we go, right.
Speaker 1: How proud are you of this lady? Amazingly proud. So
Speaker 1: she does some crazy things.
Speaker 10: We were in the cafe and she told our son first,
Speaker 10: and she put this little note to me and I said, really,
Speaker 10: I'm going to run from Adelaide to Melbourne a thousand
Speaker 10: kilometers and she only wanted to raise a small amount.
Speaker 1: I said, no, now go we're going big. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: going to go big.
Speaker 10: Because if we were in business and we were having
Speaker 10: six rejects a day, we would fix it. The next day,
Speaker 10: we would throw money at it. We're in the same
Speaker 10: position here. We've got six babies dying.
Speaker 1: Every single day.
Speaker 10: All we need is a little from a lot of people,
Speaker 10: and we can change that. We can reduce those numbers
Speaker 10: by more than twenty percent.
Speaker 1: Amazing.
Speaker 10: You know, if his people out there now listening, how
Speaker 10: much would they pay if they knew that baby was
Speaker 10: going to die. A lot of people won't do that
Speaker 10: because they've never experienced it. Most humans will only do
Speaker 10: stuff after when they've experienced it.
Speaker 1: And this is why we constantly talk about it on
Speaker 1: the show, because everyone watching the show over a long
Speaker 1: period of time, has experienced and has known somebody who
Speaker 1: that's gone through. So strength and love to you both.
Speaker 1: We'll talk mawenty times between now and then. Still running
Speaker 1: dot com dot au, Still running dot com dot au.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, to appreciate it. Still running dot com
Speaker 1: dot you have I mentioned enough? Everyone watching right now?
Speaker 1: Whatever you can, still running dot com dot you quick
Speaker 1: breakback when more think just before I go tonight's still
Speaker 1: running dot com dot? Are you? Just before I go tonight?
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but this week I decided to
Speaker 1: ring a lot of people that I haven't spoken to
Speaker 1: for a long time and reconnected with them, and it's
Speaker 1: been an amazing week. I want you to think about
Speaker 1: that person that you used to get along with so
Speaker 1: well for whatever reason, whatever thing, five ten years ago.
Speaker 1: The number is still in the phone. Just ring them.
Speaker 1: You'll be surprised how awesome the chap will be. Have
Speaker 1: a great weekend.