Speaker 1: Live on Sky News Australia.
Speaker 2: This is to Nika de Georgio.
Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to the show coming up tonight. Susan
Speaker 3: Lee under fire over net zero? Can she survive as
Speaker 3: leader until the end of the year. I don't think
Speaker 3: she can. Victoria's premier apologizes for the state's crime crisis.
Speaker 4: It's too little, too late for that.
Speaker 3: I'll catch up with the state's shadow police minister shortly.
Speaker 3: And Andrew Mountbatten Windsor ordered to appear before US Congress
Speaker 3: over his links to Jeffrey Epstein, will go live to
Speaker 3: London for the latest for first tonight.
Speaker 4: There's no going back now.
Speaker 3: Liberals are openly speaking out against Leader Susan Lee. One
Speaker 3: has to wonder with or without a net zero policy?
Speaker 3: Can she survive as leader until the end of the year.
Speaker 3: I think not. I think it is over. Once a
Speaker 3: position on energy has been.
Speaker 4: Decided, the sharks will come now.
Speaker 3: Susan Lee has bought the party time and I don't
Speaker 3: doubt she is working hard. But time is going down
Speaker 3: the drain for a party which is sinking in the polls,
Speaker 3: has no positions, can't say what it believes in, and
Speaker 3: is losing support rapidly.
Speaker 4: I don't think she's got what it takes.
Speaker 3: There's no authority and that is shown in the latest
Speaker 3: News poll. She now has the worst polling numbers of
Speaker 3: all time for a coalition leader.
Speaker 4: The Liberal Party needs a rapid overhaul.
Speaker 3: It's been six months of dithering and infighting, and it
Speaker 3: seems that sentiment is being felt behind the scenes. Here
Speaker 3: was Liberal Senator Sarah Henderson on Sky News this morning,
Speaker 3: offering up a scathing assessment of Susan Lee.
Speaker 1: I can't pretend things are good. We've had a dire
Speaker 1: News poll result, a primary vote of just twenty four percent.
Speaker 1: Things are not traveling well. I do have to say,
Speaker 1: really honestly, I do think Susan is losing support. But
Speaker 1: I do believe in miracles we can turn things around.
Speaker 1: But things are not good. I don't support things the
Speaker 1: way they are.
Speaker 4: With a new leader or with Susan Lee.
Speaker 1: Well, Pete, I am just going to say at the
Speaker 1: moment that I cannot support the way things are well.
Speaker 3: Look, this is an astonishingly brutal assessment. Senator Henderson was
Speaker 3: then pushed further by my colleague Peter Stefanovic.
Speaker 1: With Susan Lee as leader.
Speaker 5: It sounds like you're not supporting her position as leader.
Speaker 1: Well, I can't back in the way things are, Pete,
Speaker 1: and I've got to be authentic and I've got to
Speaker 1: be honest about that. And it's very difficult. It's a
Speaker 1: very difficult time for the Liberal Party.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: Now, look, this very public infighting does not at all
Speaker 3: help the party. But this is the first time we've
Speaker 3: heard a Liberal speak out so publicly against Susan Lee
Speaker 3: since she was elected as opposition leader. Now Liberal and
Speaker 3: P's tried desperately to patch it up today and back
Speaker 3: to their leader in I.
Speaker 5: Think Susan is well established as leader and a witness.
Speaker 4: Through an excellent Are you planning to roll her?
Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
Speaker 4: She absolutely does have my support. I'm looking forward to Wednesday.
Speaker 1: She can navigate us through this.
Speaker 6: I have no doubt that she can.
Speaker 7: Susan rightly identified at the end well after the last
Speaker 7: election that we had to get better at getting policy
Speaker 7: development done and making sure that we can put policies
Speaker 7: that will resonate with the Australian people.
Speaker 3: But I thought that this was telling Liberal MP Andrew Hasty,
Speaker 3: who is no doubt a shoe in to take on
Speaker 3: the leadership.
Speaker 4: Role practically said the quiet part out loud.
Speaker 6: The thing we have to do is come to a
Speaker 6: position on net zero and that's my singular focus until
Speaker 6: we saw that out.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter who leads the party, We're not in
Speaker 4: the fight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So in summary, find an energy position, then find
Speaker 3: a leader. Now, Susan Lee tried today to put up
Speaker 3: a united front, even defending her main credit Sarah Henderson.
Speaker 8: I value every single member of my team, including the
Speaker 8: good senator that you've just mentioned. What I am saying
Speaker 8: is that everyone of my team is absolutely united behind
Speaker 8: the focus that we have right now. I'm proud of
Speaker 8: my team and I know that every single member of
Speaker 8: that team is contributing to the serious, credible policy agenda
Speaker 8: that I spoke about.
Speaker 3: United, although it certainly doesn't seem that way, especially in
Speaker 3: the face of what will be next week a net
Speaker 3: zero showdown. Now, when elected as opposition leader, Susan Lee
Speaker 3: declared that everything was on the table. Then we were
Speaker 3: told the energy policy decision could take up to twelve
Speaker 3: months to formulate. Now net zero is going to three
Speaker 3: meetings next week. All Liberal MPs will meet in Canberra
Speaker 3: on Wednesday for a discussion on energy and emissions reduction policy.
Speaker 3: Shadow Energy Minister Dan Teen is expected to outline a
Speaker 3: set of principles for endorsement and open questions for discussion.
Speaker 3: The Shadow Ministry will then meet on third to formalize
Speaker 3: a position. At the end of that three senior Liberals
Speaker 3: and three from the Nationals will meet to discuss respective
Speaker 3: party positions. A final joint coalition meeting for endorsement will
Speaker 3: take place on Sunday, November sixteen. I've got to say
Speaker 3: it's quite the invite only party over three different days, and.
Speaker 4: Really there is no guarantee that at the end of
Speaker 4: that a position.
Speaker 3: Will be finalized, and it's all being hindered by the
Speaker 3: moderates in the party who are warning Susan Lee she
Speaker 3: should not take their support for granted claim the party
Speaker 3: would be unelectable if a dumped net zero. Now look,
Speaker 3: it's not all Susan Lee's fault. She has her hands
Speaker 3: tied by these moderates. But being a leader means having
Speaker 3: courage and making brave decisions popular or not. I mean,
Speaker 3: look a former Prime Minister John Howard as an example,
Speaker 3: when he introduced a firearms control policy after the Port
Speaker 3: Arthur massacre. In nineteen ninety six. He defied the gun lobby,
Speaker 3: his own constituents and even ignored the mass protests and
Speaker 3: did it anyway.
Speaker 4: That's leadership. Susan Lee should ignore.
Speaker 3: The moderates who are bringing down this party and don't
Speaker 3: forget the coalition took net zero twenty fifty to the
Speaker 3: last two elections and still lost. They relied on outer
Speaker 3: metropolitan voters to deliver an election victory this year, but
Speaker 3: voters turned their backs overwhelmingly. These outer seats are where
Speaker 3: mums and dads are most doing it tough, where cost
Speaker 3: of living is top of mind, certainly not net zero.
Speaker 4: So back then, a change in policy would.
Speaker 3: Likely not have made a scrap of difference as to
Speaker 3: where the voters voted Labor or Liberal when mum and
Speaker 3: dad are trying to figure out how to pay their bills.
Speaker 3: So go out to these seats, prosecute the case for
Speaker 3: cheap reliable energy. Go to the till seats, do exactly
Speaker 3: the same, and sure, no doubt there are going to
Speaker 3: be tills and people in those seats who want.
Speaker 4: To remain in Paris.
Speaker 3: I mean, have a listen to Zali Stebel on Sky
Speaker 3: News this morning started we're starting the fear mongering already.
Speaker 9: Oh look, I'm having desavou here and clearly we're just
Speaker 9: continuing on with the same a complete inability from the Nationals,
Speaker 9: the Liberals if this is a track they go down
Speaker 9: to listen to the community in fact here Australia and
Speaker 9: the very clear message around concern about climate change.
Speaker 3: It is up to the party to convince voters in
Speaker 3: those seats and the Australian public between now and the
Speaker 3: next election why net zero had to go and how
Speaker 3: the coalition has a plan to keep the lights on
Speaker 3: in this country and most importantly provide cheap, reliable energy
Speaker 3: voters you at.
Speaker 4: Home, we deserve options, We deserve to have a contest
Speaker 4: of ideas.
Speaker 3: We are going broken backwards under Labour's magic carpet rite fantasy.
Speaker 3: And the longer the coalition takes, the more we will
Speaker 3: see the Liberals make their own positions on key issues.
Speaker 3: I mean we've seen it with Andrew Hasty, Mikayla Cash
Speaker 3: just sent at Nampajimper Price, Garth Hamilton, Sarah Henderson, to
Speaker 3: name a few, all speaking out against issues like net zero.
Speaker 3: Susan Lee only need to look at South Australia, where
Speaker 3: more than two hundred members have suddenly quit the Liberal
Speaker 3: Party in protest. It was what they see as her
Speaker 3: week leadership and a failure to abandon net zero. Time
Speaker 3: is not on the Liberal side anymore. There's no policy
Speaker 3: on the table to put Australia first, to make a
Speaker 3: case as a genuine alternative, and quite frankly, the only
Speaker 3: way I can put it is that they are boring.
Speaker 4: They're so boring.
Speaker 3: Susan Lee had a go, she has worked hard, but
Speaker 3: there's no going back now. Sarah Henderson articulated it very
Speaker 3: clearly today, whether she was right or not, that she
Speaker 3: cannot support the way things are undergoing under Susan Lee's leadership,
Speaker 3: and how many more Liberals will follow suit once an
Speaker 3: energy policy has been reached. Well, the BBC over in
Speaker 3: the UK, they're having another totally normal one. This time
Speaker 3: they are policing facial expressions. In June, its presenter Martine
Speaker 3: Croxall was reading out a health warning about an impending
Speaker 3: heat wave when she corrected the public broadcasters woke terminology
Speaker 3: for pregnancy have a look.
Speaker 10: London's School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine has released research
Speaker 10: which says that nearly six hundred heat related deaths are
Speaker 10: expected in the UK. Malcolm Mystery, who was involved in
Speaker 10: the research, says that the aged, pregnant people, women and
Speaker 10: those with pre existing health conditions need to take precautions.
Speaker 3: Now, apparently the face she made while correcting the script
Speaker 3: from pregnant people to pregnant women breached the broadcaster's rules
Speaker 3: about in partiality, because god forbid, the public might think
Speaker 3: that the term pregnant woman.
Speaker 4: Was offensive and so guess what, She's been censured.
Speaker 3: The BBC's Executive Complaints Unit upheld twenty complaints against the presenter,
Speaker 3: finding her facial expression laid it open to the the
Speaker 3: interpretation that it indicated a particular viewpoint in the controversies
Speaker 3: currently surrounding trans identity.
Speaker 4: So let me get this right.
Speaker 3: Saying pregnant women is now controversial, but the belief that
Speaker 3: men can get pregnant is not. How dare Martine Croxall,
Speaker 3: a biological woman, think that the term pregnant people was nonsense?
Speaker 3: How dare she lose patience so frivolously on air via
Speaker 3: a facial expression? How dare she stand up for biological
Speaker 3: women around the world with actual xx chromosomes and the
Speaker 3: biological body parts that you actually need and are born
Speaker 3: with in order to fall pregnant and carry a child.
Speaker 3: And how dare she call women women? The BBC added
Speaker 3: that congratulatory messages Miss Croxall later received on social media,
Speaker 3: together with the critical views expressed in the complaints to
Speaker 3: the BBC and elsewhere, tended to confirm that the impression
Speaker 3: of her having expressed a personal view was widely shared
Speaker 3: across the spectrum of opinion on the issue, and that
Speaker 3: her facial expression was variously interpreted by complainants as showing disgust, ridicule,
Speaker 3: contempt or exasperation. Now, look, the BBC can censor as
Speaker 3: many presenters as it likes, but I've actually got some breaking.
Speaker 4: News for the broadcaster. Men can't be women.
Speaker 3: Men can't be women, and no amount of censoring will
Speaker 3: ever change what is a very simple biological fact.
Speaker 4: Oh and guess what, In case the BBC did not
Speaker 4: know men can't feel pregnant, they would have thought.
Speaker 3: Yet Paul Martine Croxell has been found guilty of the
Speaker 3: crime of being a biological woman with.
Speaker 4: A facial expression. Let's go straight to nationals MP Michael McCormack.
Speaker 3: Now, good to see you, Michael. Thanks so much for
Speaker 3: joining me on the show. Really appreciate it. Look, it's
Speaker 3: going to be a big week next week. Let's start
Speaker 3: with net zero three meetings for the Liberals. The Nationals
Speaker 3: will be involved in some of them. How confident are
Speaker 3: you that the Coalition will come to an agreement on
Speaker 3: net zero.
Speaker 5: Well, let's hope that the moderates find some common ground
Speaker 5: with those pushing for net zero within the Liberal Party because,
Speaker 5: as you quite correctly pointed out at the top of
Speaker 5: the show, time is of the essence. People need to
Speaker 5: know where the Liberals stand, need to know where the
Speaker 5: Coalition stands. They certainly know where the national stand. And
Speaker 5: let's just get on with it. I mean, we're hemorrhaging everywhere.
Speaker 5: We've got Sarah Henderson out there today making certain comments.
Speaker 5: I mean, who needs enemies sometimes when you've got friends
Speaker 5: like that. It's just let's put it to rest, make
Speaker 5: the call and get on with it. Get on with
Speaker 5: prosecuting this government and their bad agenda for Australia. That's
Speaker 5: the critical thing. We've got energy prices through the roof.
Speaker 5: They're forty percent higher than in two and what are
Speaker 5: we talking about ourselves?
Speaker 1: Not good enough?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean Sarah Henderson was pretty scathing in her assessment.
Speaker 4: Can Susan Lee survivors of official leader in your view?
Speaker 5: Well, she should be able to. She hasn't even been
Speaker 5: in the job six months yet, I mean, give her
Speaker 5: a go. The Liberals should do a whole lot better
Speaker 5: than by getting off her back, by giving us some
Speaker 5: clear air, by stop backgrounding, by stop backstabbing, and just
Speaker 5: give us some clear air. Let's go to Christmas with
Speaker 5: a policy position on net zero. Let's win the ashes,
Speaker 5: enjoy the tennis, have time at the beach, come back
Speaker 5: in February, and get on with making sure that we
Speaker 5: keep this bad government accountable.
Speaker 3: But even with polling so bad, I mean, she's got
Speaker 3: the worst and the latest news poll says that she's
Speaker 3: got the worst ratings of a coalition in a leader
Speaker 3: in history.
Speaker 4: And surely that can't go off.
Speaker 5: Oh well, look, if you don't sure, if you don't
Speaker 5: like one pole, just wait, there'd be another one the
Speaker 5: following week, all month or whatever. I mean, there's only
Speaker 5: one pole that matters. That's the election ballot, and that's
Speaker 5: the only pole. And I can remember, well in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 5: when everybody had written us off, Scott Morrison and I
Speaker 5: were able to bring it home and we won the
Speaker 5: miracle election. Sixty percent of the population apparently, according to
Speaker 5: the polls, thought that the Voice was a good idea.
Speaker 5: Look what happened with that referendum. Look, I don't hold
Speaker 5: too much countenance in polls, Danika, I really don't. I
Speaker 5: just think we need to get on with making sure
Speaker 5: we've got a united position as best we can on
Speaker 5: net zero, Get behind the leaders Susan Lee and David
Speaker 5: Little Proud and prosecute this really really bad gubet which
Speaker 5: is forcing Australia to de industrialize, forcing jobs overseas and
Speaker 5: costing everyday ordinary Australians so much at the checkout at
Speaker 5: the petrol bowser and when they open their energy bills
Speaker 5: every quarter.
Speaker 3: It was interesting comments from former Liberal leader John Houston.
Speaker 3: He's condemned Susan Lee leadership today. Sorry, John Houston, can
Speaker 3: you hear me? Michael, Oh no, no, I heard what.
Speaker 5: I heard what you said, Deneka, And I'm sorry, I mean, seriously,
Speaker 5: John Houston, I mean, come on, I mean there's there's
Speaker 5: been sixteen Liberal leaders. They've all got honorable in front
Speaker 5: of their name. There's only one who doesn't, and that's
Speaker 5: John Houston. I mean, I mean the Blake lost the
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety three election.
Speaker 11: It was it was an.
Speaker 5: Unlosable election and he managed to lose it. I mean,
Speaker 5: he comes out he's an expert on everything, never held
Speaker 5: him in a sterial portfolio, and now he wants to
Speaker 5: comment on Susan Lee. I mean, seriously, John, I mean,
Speaker 5: give it up, give it a rest off.
Speaker 12: Of bet Well.
Speaker 4: I mean, just just scarify.
Speaker 3: So he said today that she hasn't shown any clear
Speaker 3: strategy or any strong capacity in terms of leadership.
Speaker 4: That was here his exact quote today, Michael, Yeah, right.
Speaker 1: And did and did he ever?
Speaker 5: I mean seriously, John Houston could have, perhaps many suggests,
Speaker 5: should have been the Prime minister and he fluffed it.
Speaker 5: And he had four years in the leadership, he had
Speaker 5: the opportunity, he had everything going for him, and he
Speaker 5: fluffed it. So he shouldn't come out now and criticize anybody,
Speaker 5: certainly anybody who's actually held him in a serial portfolio,
Speaker 5: which is something he never managed to do.
Speaker 3: Let's move on because Chris Bowen was out today masquerading
Speaker 3: as an energy expert as he always does.
Speaker 4: Have a listen to what he said.
Speaker 13: So don't believe in climate action and I will use
Speaker 13: any excuse and any alibi to avoid proper climate policy
Speaker 13: in Australia in twenty twenty five and next week they're
Speaker 13: going to debate whether they believe in climate change again.
Speaker 4: I've got a wonder, Michael, should Labor actually be worried here?
Speaker 3: This whole saga has actually put net zero back at
Speaker 3: the public forefront again. People are talking about it and
Speaker 3: they're going to start questioning, Well, hang on a second,
Speaker 3: my bills are actually not going down.
Speaker 4: So what is paris to me? I mean, in a
Speaker 4: way Labor needs to address this, ye, I.
Speaker 1: Mean Chris Balen.
Speaker 5: There's the blow who allowed what eight hundred boats and
Speaker 5: fifty thousand illegal arrivals on his watch when he was
Speaker 5: the Immigration minister. I mean, I had a crack at
Speaker 5: doctor Houston, who was never a minister. I mean Chris Bowen.
Speaker 5: He was probably the worst minister. And you're right, every
Speaker 5: time somebody opens their power bill, they should see Chris
Speaker 5: Bowen's face on that bill because he's the one forcing
Speaker 5: their power prices up. He's the one forcing pensions to
Speaker 5: become impoverished, people to sleep in cars, and the likes
Speaker 5: of Tommigo and other factories and manufacturing bases to question
Speaker 5: their survival. And what does he want, Well, he probably
Speaker 5: wants a un cushy job or some sort of award
Speaker 5: that's going to be presented to him because he was
Speaker 5: the world's best climate emissions reducing a minister. I mean,
Speaker 5: just a bit like Wayne Swan when he was the
Speaker 5: world's best treasurer when he couldn't produce the surplus to
Speaker 5: save himself.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean this is nuts.
Speaker 5: I mean, Chris Baron can say whatever he likes, ordinary
Speaker 5: every days, missus average are paying through the nose for
Speaker 5: their energy costs and it's his fault.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And the mare he keeps talking, the more he
Speaker 3: just keeps muddling himself up. Seriously, Michael McCormack, nice to
Speaker 3: have you on the show. Thanks very much for joining me,
Speaker 3: really appreciated.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 3: It's going to be a huge week next week, three meetings,
Speaker 3: so we'll be keeping you up to data with that. Now, look,
Speaker 3: I want to remind you of these scenes that we
Speaker 3: saw in Melbourne, CBD a few weeks ago, resembling what
Speaker 3: was like a war zone as police used tear gas,
Speaker 3: stun grenades and rubber bullets in a bid to control
Speaker 3: dueling protests. Thousands of people joined March for Australia rallies
Speaker 3: around the country and as you would expect, the march
Speaker 3: in Australia was met with a counter protest led by
Speaker 3: far left extremists who quickly turned things ugly.
Speaker 4: Now. These scenes came days after.
Speaker 3: Just sin To Allen insisted that the Melbourne CBD was safe,
Speaker 3: but the police commander Wayne Cheeseman begged to differ.
Speaker 1: This is what was fining in police today and I
Speaker 1: think Melbourne has had a gutfull now.
Speaker 3: The Herald Sun has today revealed extreme left wing protest
Speaker 3: has actually planned the violent attacks on police. Weeks prior,
Speaker 3: Campaign Against Racism and Fascism held a meeting at the
Speaker 3: University of Melbourne where attendees were urged to launch missiles
Speaker 3: at officers. Protesters were told to be militant in your ideology,
Speaker 3: be aggressive, to make to the fascists, make them be ashamed,
Speaker 3: to walk the streets, and suggested throwing bricks at police unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Joining me now is Victoria's shadow Police Minister David Southwick. David,
Speaker 3: thanks for your time. What do you make of these revelations?
Speaker 11: Yeah, greatly with your Daneka only in Victoria do you
Speaker 11: go to university to learn how to throw rocks at police?
Speaker 11: I mean it's absolutely appalling and we've got a government
Speaker 11: doing absolutely nothing about it. I mean, this is disgraceful.
Speaker 11: Police have had a gutful, Victorians have had a gutful.
Speaker 11: We've got no laws to deal with these gutless cowards
Speaker 11: that hide behind a mask at these protests despite calling
Speaker 11: for it. The government's had plenty of the chances to
Speaker 11: be able to do something that they've done nothing. But again,
Speaker 11: university should be a place of learning, not a place
Speaker 11: to be able to host these radicals to learn how
Speaker 11: to incite hatred and violence on our streets. And we
Speaker 11: must not forget it was only a few months back
Speaker 11: where the university's had encampments that were also ensuring that
Speaker 11: many Jewish students couldn't attend these campuses because of fear
Speaker 11: of going anywhere near them.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, does the University of Melbourne have questions
Speaker 3: to answer for even hosting this event in the first place.
Speaker 11: Yeah, look, I believe so. I think more Broadly speaking,
Speaker 11: we've got to do more. There's got to be consequences.
Speaker 11: There's some simple laws that the government could be doing
Speaker 11: just to dm us these gutless cowards. We've got to
Speaker 11: have protest permits. We are the protest capital where the
Speaker 11: hate state. With these regular protests. It's cost to bomb.
Speaker 11: It's time for action and the government's got to start
Speaker 11: waking up and listening to what the public want. The
Speaker 11: police should be there to protect us at the moment
Speaker 11: they're struggling to protect themselves because they've got these extremist
Speaker 11: radicals throwing rocks of them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's just absolutely pauling. I agree. More
Speaker 4: does need to be done. Now.
Speaker 3: Look, it's been revealed that victorious police Chief Mike Bush
Speaker 3: took another undeclared flight using the Forces Air Wing. First,
Speaker 3: of course, he used a police helicopter to flight to
Speaker 3: Tasmania for a conference. The Herald's son has now confirmed
Speaker 3: that he and his wife Vicky have each taken another
Speaker 3: underclosed undisclosed flight since his appointment. His wife joined a
Speaker 3: ten minute flight for two senior New Zealand Police officials
Speaker 3: over Melbourne and on July twenty nine, the Commissioner and
Speaker 3: his executive assistant hitched a ride and a chopper heading
Speaker 3: back to police HQ David, does the commissioner have your
Speaker 3: backing still?
Speaker 11: Look, it wasn't a great look, and particularly when police
Speaker 11: are really stretched and we know there's not even enough
Speaker 11: funds to mow the lawns at the moment in our
Speaker 11: police stations. You can only hope that it was an
Speaker 11: honest mistake. This police commissioner's fairly new, but I do
Speaker 11: want to make this point that the government were pretty
Speaker 11: quick to throw him under a bus and call it out.
Speaker 11: But yet today we find out that you've got an
Speaker 11: SRL boss paying nine hundred thousand dollars and flying from
Speaker 11: Melbourne to taxpayer Melbourne to Brisbane on the taxpayer's purse
Speaker 11: and the government said nothing. So we need some consistency.
Speaker 11: It wasn't a good look. We hope that, you know,
Speaker 11: the Police commissioner needs to turn things around desperately, but
Speaker 11: this is the third police commissioner and the government. We
Speaker 11: can't keep changing the coach. The government's got to provide
Speaker 11: the guide rails and at the moment this government's doing nothing,
Speaker 11: absolutely nothing in terms of all of that.
Speaker 3: No, definitely not now Look, we were talking earlier about crime.
Speaker 3: The Premier de Cinta Allen has apologized for Victoria's youth
Speaker 3: crime crisis and claims that there is a plan to
Speaker 3: fix it.
Speaker 4: Have a listen.
Speaker 14: I'm deeply sorry for every family who has been touched
Speaker 14: by a crime, these violent, brazen crimes.
Speaker 3: David another day of thoughts and prayers, and now she's apologizing.
Speaker 4: Too late.
Speaker 3: Okay, unfortunately we've lost David Southwick there, but yes it
Speaker 3: is too late. I mean a few weeks ago the
Speaker 3: Premier just into Alan was saying that the Melbourne CBD
Speaker 3: was safe and yet how many more stabbing attacks have
Speaker 3: we seen in the CBD since then? And as I mentioned,
Speaker 3: they're the head of that interview with David Southwick that
Speaker 3: there was perhaps according to the Herald's Sun, a coordinated
Speaker 3: effort to actually throw items at police officers. So it's
Speaker 3: very clear that the Premiere does not have control of
Speaker 3: the situation and it is once again every day ordinary
Speaker 3: Victorians who are suffering because of a lack of action.
Speaker 4: We'll stay with us coming up after the break.
Speaker 3: The surgeon one nation's popularity plus what policies would you
Speaker 3: implement if you were a dictator for a day.
Speaker 4: My panel is next.
Speaker 3: Welcome back, joining me as they do every week as
Speaker 3: new South Wales Independent MP Tanya Mahale can form a
Speaker 3: new soun Wales Police Minister David Elliot hig.
Speaker 4: To both of you, as always, thank you.
Speaker 3: Now look, I want to start, obviously with the big
Speaker 3: story today. I want to get your quick opinions before
Speaker 3: we move on to the rest of the day's news
Speaker 3: about Susan Lee's leadership.
Speaker 4: A reminder here was Liberal Senator Sarah Henderson today.
Speaker 1: I can't pretend things are good. Things are not traveling well.
Speaker 1: I do have to say, really honestly, I do think
Speaker 1: Susan is losing support.
Speaker 4: David, Can she Survivor's leader?
Speaker 15: Well, I mean anything's possible. I remember working for a
Speaker 15: blake called John Howard who was called mister seventeen percent,
Speaker 15: and so anything is possible. And Kevin Rudd showed us
Speaker 15: that it can turn on a dime depending on circumstances.
Speaker 15: But the party does need to look at its narrative.
Speaker 15: There's a lot of tie kicking going on out there
Speaker 15: in the Conservative voter base. They're looking at one nation,
Speaker 15: they're looking at the Liberal Party. They're comparing it to
Speaker 15: the National Party and we're seeing a lot of in
Speaker 15: decision about who they should support. But let's not forget Labe.
Speaker 15: It's not even at forty percent. They're not even at
Speaker 15: thirty five sent So Susan can survive. But the team
Speaker 15: has to be united. They need to get their narrative together,
Speaker 15: they need to dump net zero, and then they need
Speaker 15: to ensure that they get the right candidates early on
Speaker 15: in the field.
Speaker 3: Well, I just wonder, though, are they going to go, yep,
Speaker 3: we've got our energy policy now. I mean, I feel
Speaker 3: like Andrew Hasty almost has said it today, get an
Speaker 3: energy policy together, then the sharks are going to start
Speaker 3: circling or what.
Speaker 4: Look?
Speaker 14: Once this look history tells us that once this sort
Speaker 14: of stuff, you know, starts where people raise issues like
Speaker 14: Senator Henderson did.
Speaker 4: Today, it tells you that people are worried.
Speaker 14: You're going to have people sitting in the House of
Speaker 14: Reps really worried about their own personal seats. So, whether
Speaker 14: it's this month or next month or in six months,
Speaker 14: I think eventually Susan lay will have to call it
Speaker 14: a day. I honestly think that's what's going to happen
Speaker 14: with a little party I don't think they're ready now
Speaker 14: for change, but I do think there is so much animosity,
Speaker 14: so many, so much internal machinations going on in this
Speaker 14: party at the moment, and they're hurting. They're hurting from
Speaker 14: one of the worst defeats they've ever had in history
Speaker 14: back in May, and I think, I just think it's
Speaker 14: just a matter of time for Susan lay one way
Speaker 14: or another. And listening to Michael McCormick just moments ago,
Speaker 14: I was shocked that he told everybody just to go
Speaker 14: to the beach and there's nothing to see and relaxed. Well, no,
Speaker 14: I don't think that's the case. I think people are
Speaker 14: genuinely worried inside that party. People that support the Liberal
Speaker 14: Party are worried. Everybody wants a two party system in Australia.
Speaker 14: We want a healthy opposition, of course, and we want
Speaker 14: an opposition that actually has an opportunity and a chance
Speaker 14: one day to be in government. And I am very,
Speaker 14: very worried about the current Liberal Party federally.
Speaker 3: Well, voters want options as well, you know you at home,
Speaker 3: you want an option and we want to see some
Speaker 3: actual differentiation in policy.
Speaker 4: So let's see how the week pans out. David, you
Speaker 4: mentioned One Nation.
Speaker 3: It's doubled its membership based since the May federal election
Speaker 3: and is now establishing new party branches across regional Australia.
Speaker 4: The Australian has revealed that the party.
Speaker 3: Is weeks away from launching its new Central Queensland branch
Speaker 3: after last month poached Tamworth Nationals members to set up
Speaker 3: a base in the electorate of New England. Of course,
Speaker 3: Barnaby Joyce's why are voters turning to One Nation?
Speaker 15: Well, we've been down this road before, of course, after
Speaker 15: at ninety six when One Nation had a surge and
Speaker 15: it couldn't cope. It didn't have the administration, didn't have
Speaker 15: the infrastructure to cope with the surge of support. That
Speaker 15: got dodgy candidates, got branch executives that didn't know what
Speaker 15: they were doing. So we have seen this before. I mean,
Speaker 15: as I said, the voters are looking at all options
Speaker 15: at the moment, and I mean our problem is on
Speaker 15: our side is we've got moderates out there saying, well,
Speaker 15: we're only going to solve the Liberal Party if we
Speaker 15: get rid of Andrew Hasty and just senter Price. Well,
Speaker 15: actually this is proof positive that we're actually going to
Speaker 15: need some right wing warriors to go to these one
Speaker 15: nation devotees and say come back, we need your help.
Speaker 15: As John Howard I said, broad church is a good church.
Speaker 15: A successful church is when the right wing and the
Speaker 15: left wing work together in opposition. That never happens, and
Speaker 15: that's because a lot of the real stoic leaders go
Speaker 15: and do their own thing. And we need to bring
Speaker 15: back full time the Jeff Kennets and the Michael Kroger's
Speaker 15: and the Nick Reiners and the John Howard's. We need
Speaker 15: them in to rally the troops, to hand pick some
Speaker 15: good conservatives that will go back out into the one
Speaker 15: nation field and say come back to the Liberal party
Speaker 15: because at the moment it seems to be a central party,
Speaker 15: a moderate central party, and we ain't going to beat
Speaker 15: labor in government when they're governing from the center.
Speaker 3: No, but you're right about likes of Hasty or just
Speaker 3: center napageber Price when they're talking about immigration, for example,
Speaker 3: mass migration, which is a huge issue in this country
Speaker 3: net zero. But the more this goes on, I mean,
Speaker 3: the more you get these liberals that are actually freelancing
Speaker 3: almost on these issues. Tanya, you were once or One
Speaker 3: Nation MP yourself.
Speaker 4: You have to admit a leader, even a leader, but
Speaker 4: you have to admit that they're doing pretty well.
Speaker 14: Why oh, look, I think David's said it quite well.
Speaker 14: The Liberal Party has its issues.
Speaker 4: There will be votes that.
Speaker 14: Bleed to the right, and that's what's happened here. I
Speaker 14: think people see that Pauline Hanson herself, she's a strong leader.
Speaker 14: I'm not going to disparage her personally. I know that
Speaker 14: she is a strong leader. She's certainly strong in her views.
Speaker 14: She's quite different in her approach from say Susan Lay
Speaker 14: in that context. But look, David has said quite rightly
Speaker 14: that they had problems with their party administration years ago,
Speaker 14: and I would have to say nothing's changed. I think
Speaker 14: the biggest problem that One Nation has is that they
Speaker 14: don't have the structure or the ability to have to
Speaker 14: be an alternative government.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's the problem.
Speaker 14: They are a party like the Greens that they can
Speaker 14: raise issues, they can raise policies, they campaign on matters,
Speaker 14: but they're never going to have the structure or the
Speaker 14: capacity or the means to you actually form or be
Speaker 14: part of a government. And that's where in the end
Speaker 14: you just need to explain to people that the Liberal
Speaker 14: Party does have the capacity and normally has had the
Speaker 14: capacity to have both moderates and conservatives in its structure,
Speaker 14: and it has a structure. My experience in the twenty
Speaker 14: months that I was in One Nation, there are very
Speaker 14: few branch meetings, There are very few opportunities for grassroots
Speaker 14: control or leadership. I think in the end, decisions have
Speaker 14: made top down in that party, and that's why a
Speaker 14: lot of people leave.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 3: I mean, they're certainly doing well in the polls because
Speaker 3: they're bleeding. You know, the Liberal Party is bleeding voters
Speaker 3: and people are looking for an alternative at the moment,
Speaker 3: and clearly one nation is providing that. Let's talk about
Speaker 3: the public sector workforce in federal, state, and local governments.
Speaker 3: Its increased by eighty two thousand jobs in the twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four to twenty five financial year.
Speaker 4: To nearly two point six million.
Speaker 3: It means taxpayers are paying two hundred and forty nine
Speaker 3: point five billion, up from two hundred and thirty one
Speaker 3: point seven billion the year before. David, we've got record
Speaker 3: spending as it is now the public sector workforce has
Speaker 3: blown out. Is it's not more evidence why we need
Speaker 3: a Doge style department to make cuts.
Speaker 15: Well, if not a Doge style department, department that is
Speaker 15: going to identify where those jobs are actually needed. We
Speaker 15: need cops, we need soldiers, So they are public sector
Speaker 15: jobs that we need to have employed on the taxpayer's dime.
Speaker 15: We don't need cardigan wearing biscuit lunches that are sitting
Speaker 15: in offices in the city of Sydney or in some
Speaker 15: regional center because they need to generate a job in
Speaker 15: that particular electorate, and that is, unfortunately what happens. So
Speaker 15: I think before I slashed public service jobs, I want
Speaker 15: to highlight where they're going and where they're needed, and
Speaker 15: I think we need to direct people into those to
Speaker 15: those areas. I know in the engineering fraternity there are
Speaker 15: the government just can't attract good engineers. Not that they're
Speaker 15: spending record numbers in infrastructure at the moment. If they
Speaker 15: were to do that, we would need more engineers in
Speaker 15: the public sector. That is important, But a clerk in
Speaker 15: an office in suburban Sydney is obviously it's not.
Speaker 4: We do need.
Speaker 3: Emergency services, I think that's a fair point, But eighty
Speaker 3: two thousand additional jobs, I don't know how that can
Speaker 3: be justified.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think right now it's only Canberra that's booming
Speaker 14: and everybody else is going bust. That's what's actually happening
Speaker 14: in Australia. Look, Albanizy has always loved and Labor loves
Speaker 14: having a large bureaucracy.
Speaker 4: That's what that's what they're about.
Speaker 14: And Chris means as well as following suit, Labor has
Speaker 14: absolutely expanded its public service in every state and territory
Speaker 14: that they.
Speaker 4: Are currently governing.
Speaker 14: So and in what we're seeing is a lol in
Speaker 14: productivity growth and small businesses are desperate now for some
Speaker 14: some incentives from government, some support. Jim Chumbers was just
Speaker 14: saying it today. I think that that's the problem. You
Speaker 14: can recognize that there's a productivity growth problem in Australia.
Speaker 4: Well, what are you doing about it?
Speaker 14: Exactly hand what I find on the bureaucracy and start
Speaker 14: supporting small business.
Speaker 3: I don't know why anyone would want to go into
Speaker 3: business right now in this country if there's a lot
Speaker 3: of issues, and Labour certainly got helping.
Speaker 4: Before we go, we've got to talk about your column
Speaker 4: in the Telegraph today, Wisdom.
Speaker 3: If I was a dictator for a day, go on
Speaker 3: tell us your points here day.
Speaker 15: I am an economic rationalist, but we subsidize heavily public
Speaker 15: transport on gazetted public holidays. So let's give mum and
Speaker 15: the kids a free trip to the Blue Mountains and
Speaker 15: it creates economic activity and it also gets the drunks
Speaker 15: off the roads. Let's let's stop giving how to get
Speaker 15: out of jail free cards the kids three.
Speaker 4: Times in a week.
Speaker 15: Make sure that they know that a second chance is
Speaker 15: a privilege, not a rite. Let's highlight the fact that
Speaker 15: Australian history shouldn't be dismissed. I mean, we've got people
Speaker 15: out there dyeing their hair purple and burning the flags
Speaker 15: on things issues.
Speaker 4: That they would have read a book about.
Speaker 15: So yeah, I've got a bit cranky.
Speaker 4: Off.
Speaker 14: Okay, public think the devil's in the detail. I read
Speaker 14: your article properly, David, and I don't know about this
Speaker 14: one negative gearing property.
Speaker 4: That's a bit unfair.
Speaker 14: We should be supporting aspirational with one.
Speaker 15: With one we shouldn't be allowing.
Speaker 4: I would say, well, you know it's up to you
Speaker 4: to invest.
Speaker 3: Can I just say one we haven't mentioned yet, make
Speaker 3: the ABC A subscriptions.
Speaker 4: Up concurred generally, will with that.
Speaker 14: Aren't we all?
Speaker 4: Aren't we all?
Speaker 3: We've got to go, David Elliott Tanya to have you
Speaker 3: both have a nice weekend.
Speaker 4: We'll see you next week. Thanks for joining me.
Speaker 3: Coming up after the break and the Labour's plan to
Speaker 3: spend a billion dollars on a climate talk best plus
Speaker 3: life to London.
Speaker 4: As Andrew mount Batten.
Speaker 3: Windsor is ordered to appear before the US Congress over
Speaker 3: his leaks to pedophile Jeffrey Epstep, Well, welcome back. Joining
Speaker 3: me now is Shadow Resources Minister Susan McDonald.
Speaker 4: Good to see you, Susan. Thanks for joining me.
Speaker 3: Big week next week, of course, meetings galore on net
Speaker 3: zero the Libers will settle on their policy. Can the
Speaker 3: coalition stay united under Susan lead?
Speaker 4: You think? Oh?
Speaker 2: I think absolutely. I think we are a group of
Speaker 2: people who are first and foremost committed to representing the
Speaker 2: people that we've come to Cambri to serve, and right
Speaker 2: across Australia we are seeing a clear message from both
Speaker 2: households and businesses that Labour's plan isn't working, that their
Speaker 2: net zero approach is killing small business, it's certainly damaging
Speaker 2: metals processing, minerals processing right across Australia. We've lost seven
Speaker 2: thousand jobs, mostly from mining areas. This is not going
Speaker 2: well and we are all completely united and finding a
Speaker 2: better way to achieve an energy policy.
Speaker 3: Well, big week next week and look forward to seeing
Speaker 3: hopefully and a good outcome. Let's talk about Labour's grand
Speaker 3: plans to host this twenty twenty six un COP thirty
Speaker 3: one Climate summit at a cost of one billion dollars
Speaker 3: and analysis by Sky News has found that money could
Speaker 3: fund the annual healthcare of one hundred thousand people, or
Speaker 3: provide schooling for forty thousand students, or even build two
Speaker 3: thousand and five one hundred houses Susan. What's a billion
Speaker 3: dollars to play host for a party you can't afford,
Speaker 3: for a problem you can't even solve.
Speaker 2: Well, we're seeing Labor just signing signing checks that the
Speaker 2: Australian body can't meet a billion dollars. That is a
Speaker 2: huge amount of money to support an agenda that is
Speaker 2: failing Australians right now. We know that small business is
Speaker 2: failing at a greater rate than ever before in Australian history.
Speaker 2: We're losing small business, private enterprise jobs, which are usually
Speaker 2: the apprentices and the young people, the jobs and regional
Speaker 2: places and services, and this one billion dollars could go
Speaker 2: so far to helping in health commitments, school commitments. We
Speaker 2: could probably think of a thousand things if we really
Speaker 2: put our minds to it, but none of them. None
Speaker 2: of them about an international climate conference that is not
Speaker 2: serving Australia in any way. There has to be a
Speaker 2: better way, in a fairer way of approaching approaching an
Speaker 2: energy plan. But Labor is doubling down, whether it be
Speaker 2: in Cop thirty one or whether it be this crazy
Speaker 2: idea to reduce road speeds rather than fixed roads, all
Speaker 2: with the goal of reducing emissions. This is the madness
Speaker 2: that's running the Australian Labor Party. And I'm sure that
Speaker 2: there are old labor heads who are shaking their heads
Speaker 2: in shame and frustration at what's happening under this very
Speaker 2: left wing labor government.
Speaker 3: Absolutely now Look Power company AGL has claimed that renewables
Speaker 3: will cost three times as much as coal to generate
Speaker 3: the same amount of electricity. It's shown up in its
Speaker 3: annual report for the year Susan. No wonder our bills
Speaker 3: keep going.
Speaker 2: Up well, this is the bit that it doesn't matter
Speaker 2: how many times Chris Bowen or labor ministers say that
Speaker 2: renewable energy is the cheapest energy. It is not true
Speaker 2: because you have to overbuild in order to have the
Speaker 2: reliable power that's available at every part of the day.
Speaker 2: But what we're seeing is important manufacturing and industrial jobs
Speaker 2: leaving our shorts. These are well paid Australian jobs, great
Speaker 2: Australian taxes that we are missing out on now. Two
Speaker 2: years ago Australia the government benefit from the resources boomed
Speaker 2: that has run dry. That well is empty, and yet
Speaker 2: labor is still continuing to spend money whilst not looking
Speaker 2: at the fundamentals the structure of our economy, which is energy.
Speaker 2: Energy is the economy, and they are killing our ability
Speaker 2: to have industrial jobs, manufacturing jobs, metals processing jobs. At
Speaker 2: the same time, Danik that they've signed this critical Minerals
Speaker 2: agreement with the US. It is madness.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're going broken backwards in the process, shutting
Speaker 3: up coal power plants with no plan B to keep
Speaker 3: the lights on in this country.
Speaker 4: It's madness.
Speaker 3: Su the McDonald, nice to see, thanks very much for
Speaker 3: your time, really appreciate it.
Speaker 9: Well.
Speaker 3: I spoke earlier about BBC presenter Martine Croxall being found
Speaker 3: guilty by the UK's public broadcaster.
Speaker 4: Of the crime of being a biological woman.
Speaker 3: With a facial expression after breaching its own rules about impartiality.
Speaker 4: Apparently when she did this.
Speaker 10: London's School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine House released research
Speaker 10: which says that nearly six hundred heat related deaths are
Speaker 10: expected in the UK. Malcolm Mystery, who was involved in
Speaker 10: the research, says that the aged, pregnant people, women and
Speaker 10: those with pre existing health conditions need to take precautions.
Speaker 3: Johnny Now from London is Samara gill a host of
Speaker 3: Triggered with Samara Gill.
Speaker 4: Ah, Look, Samara, this present has now been censured.
Speaker 3: So good to see that the BBC is having yet
Speaker 3: another totally normal one.
Speaker 16: Yes, because of the Heidnika, I wanted to just jump
Speaker 16: into this the smallest eye roll after reading a script
Speaker 16: that called pregnant women pregnant people. Really, I mean, I
Speaker 16: just really think that the BBC at the moment should
Speaker 16: not be finger wagging at its presenters for common sense.
Speaker 16: They're actually embroiled in scandal.
Speaker 4: At the moment.
Speaker 16: Over here, there has basically been this leaked dossier by
Speaker 16: the Telegraph that has revealed some really damning findings about
Speaker 16: the BBC, such as a doctored Trump video where they've
Speaker 16: essentially spliced together Trump's speech to make it look like
Speaker 16: he called for an insurrection when.
Speaker 1: He never did.
Speaker 16: They really then have put a harmas official Sun as
Speaker 16: a narrator of a documentary about Gaza. They've also been
Speaker 16: found to have a LGBTQ wing that has been actively
Speaker 16: pushing a message that is not conducive with basically doing
Speaker 16: a fair representation of what LGBTQ is. So they've actually
Speaker 16: been pushing a lot of propaganda out. There's basically a
Speaker 16: seventeen page dossier that has come out. But apparently no
Speaker 16: Martin Croxwell for rolling her eyes is the one that
Speaker 16: needs to be held accountable. No one ever gets held
Speaker 16: accountable at the BBC for the big things, but the
Speaker 16: small things about trans people. Sure, yeah, absolutely someone needs
Speaker 16: to be held accountable for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the crime of a facial expression, now, who would
Speaker 3: have thought to samaraw But that's where the BBC is
Speaker 3: out extraordinary.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: Look, Andrew Mountbatten Windsor has been ordered to appear before
Speaker 3: the US Congress over his links to pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Well, look, Samara,
Speaker 3: it gets worse and worse, doesn't it. Will he actually
Speaker 3: have to go over to the US?
Speaker 16: Well, yeah, he's been appeared, he's sort of been ordered
Speaker 16: to appear before Congress. But the issue is he said
Speaker 16: that he would do this quite a few years ago,
Speaker 16: when he was under a lot of public pressure. He
Speaker 16: kind of mentioned, yes, I'd be happy to go over
Speaker 16: to the US and appear before Congress. I don't think
Speaker 16: this is ever going to happen, Honestly. This man has
Speaker 16: been absolutely stripped of everything. He's been ordered to move
Speaker 16: out of his very lavish castle.
Speaker 4: Rightly so.
Speaker 16: The Virginia de Fray book, the findings within that are
Speaker 16: just colossal. And I think the thing is he's never
Speaker 16: apologized for anything that he's allegedly done, and he actually,
Speaker 16: if he really does want to maintain his innocence, which
Speaker 16: no one quite frankly believes at this point, he would
Speaker 16: have hung around in all the circles. He would know
Speaker 16: the names, he'd be able to help maybe bring some
Speaker 16: of these victims justice if he did want to appear
Speaker 16: before Congress. But that's just something that Andrew Andy as
Speaker 16: we know him now, would never do so. I think
Speaker 16: there's a snowballs chance in hell that Andrew will be
Speaker 16: going over to the US and helping any effort for
Speaker 16: these victims. We know that he blatantly does not care.
Speaker 3: No, he clearly does not. I mean it would be
Speaker 3: great if he did. I would get the popcorn ready
Speaker 3: and we'll be all watching that one now. A Samara
Speaker 3: Meghan Markle is reportedly making a return to acting. God
Speaker 3: help us, eight years after quitting Hollywood to join the
Speaker 3: royal family.
Speaker 4: What could we be subjective to torture? Maybe great?
Speaker 16: Look Megan is basically she's returning to acting as herself.
Speaker 16: Shock horror, The victim to her does continue. Essentially, she
Speaker 16: plays herself in this film that is about famous people
Speaker 16: dating civilians. It's a really dalist film. I mean, the
Speaker 16: actors are a bunch of NEPO babies, people like Dennis
Speaker 16: Quaid's son. This isn't anything sort of Martin Scorsese. Oscar
Speaker 16: Worthy and her people have put out that she's just
Speaker 16: been swamped by offers and she's had to pick the
Speaker 16: best one. This is blatantly untrue. The irony is really poetic.
Speaker 16: You know, she left this amazing institution, the Royal family,
Speaker 16: to essentially so called back do a D list acting career. Well,
Speaker 16: Harry sits on the couch and just laments about life.
Speaker 16: You couldn't write this stuff, No, I really could.
Speaker 4: You really can't write it?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, here we go again, Samara girl, It's nice
Speaker 3: to see you as always.
Speaker 4: Thanks so much for joining me on the show. Appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Coming up after the break, the winners and losers of
Speaker 3: the week, including Chris Bowen's promise of free power.
Speaker 4: That's next.
Speaker 3: It is that time of the week where we sought
Speaker 3: the winners from the losers. And helping me to do
Speaker 3: that is former Liberal centator Holly Hughes. Holly, Happy Friday,
Speaker 3: thank you.
Speaker 4: For joining me. Your winner this week is horse racing.
Speaker 1: Oh what a great week for the sport of horse racing.
Speaker 12: Both the Melbourne and Sydney Spring Carnivals have just been
Speaker 12: absolutely sensational. But I think what's so great is that
Speaker 12: we've seen so many young people really embrace these carnivals
Speaker 12: and get back into horse racing. I love the races.
Speaker 12: Any opportunity to pop on a hat, have a little
Speaker 12: glass of bubbles, but to actually get there I mean,
Speaker 12: as I joke, I have about five hairs in the
Speaker 12: main of one horse and ten hairs in the main
Speaker 12: of another. But it's a great sport and it's great
Speaker 12: to see the young ones getting back into it.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 3: And it's nice when Australia comes together the races stops
Speaker 3: elation and.
Speaker 4: I do agree.
Speaker 3: I love a fascinator, love a nice frock and it's
Speaker 3: nice to get dressed up. I completely agree, totally. Now
Speaker 3: my win of this week is actress Sydney Sweeney. She
Speaker 3: is refusing to apologize for the American Eagle Good Genes ad.
Speaker 4: Why should she?
Speaker 3: You recall the left claim but the ad was promoting
Speaker 3: white supremacy, among other things. But in an interview with GQ,
Speaker 3: she was asked about it, and I think her response
Speaker 3: was spot on.
Speaker 6: The criticism of the content, which was basically that maybe
Speaker 6: specifically in this political climate, like wait, people shouldn't joke
Speaker 6: about genetic superiority, Like that was kind of like the
Speaker 6: criticism broadly speaking, And since you were talking about this,
Speaker 6: I just wanted to give you an opportunity to talk
Speaker 6: about that specifically.
Speaker 4: I think that when I I have an issue, though,
Speaker 4: I want to speak about people here. Well, good on her, Holly,
Speaker 4: I mean, what was she going to say? For goodness sake?
Speaker 3: The Left are always so perpetually outraged about everything, so
Speaker 3: you know, good on her.
Speaker 4: Look.
Speaker 12: I wasn't a big fan of her as an actress,
Speaker 12: to be honest, to lean that one of the white
Speaker 12: load of seasons. But the way that she's handled this,
Speaker 12: well I'm a convert.
Speaker 4: I think she's handled it incredibly well. So me too.
Speaker 3: Now, look, your loser is the Australian people. Well it's
Speaker 3: been a big week, Susan Lee.
Speaker 4: What do you think?
Speaker 12: Well, look, it's Susan Lee, but it's the team behind her.
Speaker 4: And I used to be part of that team.
Speaker 1: And I can tell you there's some.
Speaker 12: People with more ambition than conviction. There's the odd one
Speaker 12: that's too dumb to know they are dumb, and the
Speaker 12: fact that they are not working as a team while
Speaker 12: we are looking at one of the worst governments in history.
Speaker 12: They are completely driving this country into the ground. And
Speaker 12: yet there is a group within the Liberal Party unable
Speaker 12: to get on board and start talking about the issues
Speaker 12: that matter to Australians. But they want to talk about
Speaker 12: themselves or score their own points for ego and the
Speaker 12: Australian people deserve an opposition who can actually take the
Speaker 12: fight up to the government, not take the fight up
Speaker 12: to themselves. And that's why I think the Australian people
Speaker 12: are the ones losing out from this bickering and undermining well.
Speaker 3: Look absolutely, and this is why Labor's getting away with
Speaker 3: so much right now, because the Liberal Party can consistently
Speaker 3: talking about themselves. I agree now my loser this week
Speaker 3: I had to give it to Chris Bowen. Holly claims
Speaker 3: that we're.
Speaker 4: Going to get three hours of free power. I'd love
Speaker 4: to hear your views on this.
Speaker 12: This is the dumbest policy idea I have ever heard
Speaker 12: in my life ever. And I mean when I the
Speaker 12: MBM was put together on the back of an envelope,
Speaker 12: but this is seriously, I don't even know where this
Speaker 12: could have come from. Reconsultation with the market straight after
Speaker 12: the default market offering was put out and still no conversation.
Speaker 1: It is just lunacy.
Speaker 12: And whilst I can see Chris Bowen is an incredibly
Speaker 12: big loser, I think in fairness he could be the
Speaker 12: loser of the week every week that we may need
Speaker 12: to mix it up a little bit, this is just
Speaker 12: another stupid thought bubble that's never going to happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, I totally agree.
Speaker 3: And where where is the cost going to go to
Speaker 3: everybody else's power bills? So you know, another thought bubble
Speaker 3: from the man masquerading is Australia's Energy Minister, and another
Speaker 3: ripper from you Bowen. Good one, Holly Hughes, good to
Speaker 3: see you, Thanks very much to have a good weekend,
Speaker 3: See you soon. That's it from me tonight. I'll be
Speaker 3: back on Sunday night at seven for denekro and James.
Speaker 3: Steve Price is next.
Speaker 4: Good night,