1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to L three sixty Drug League from every angle, 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: brought to you by it Tel Fast joining me again 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: the great Gordon Tallas. It's been the Jernator, Straightian, James 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: Hooper and Michael Carrianas and this game sets up to 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: be an absolute beauty. The jwh back for the Roosteres 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: after that poor start against the Panthers. Can they bounced 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: back and the Manly Seagles getting out of jail in 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: that close one against the Bulldogs on Sunday. Gordy, what 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: do you think about this one? 10 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: What a matchup? 11 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 3: It's these matchups all over the park, full back, back rowers. 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: The front row is probably the most interesting and halfback 13 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 3: so I think you know it's it's the bounce of 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 3: the ball. 15 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: I think this game, like I really do. 16 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 4: Sets up as an epic blockbuster. 17 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 5: Gordion Olive Hamoli Olicado up against Angus Crichton last weekend 18 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 5: against Canterbury Banks Down Villa Army kickout probably got the 19 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 5: points in the opening twenty minutes and then Hamoli just 20 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 5: turned into a one man wrecking crew and was so 21 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 5: destructive on that edge. 22 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 4: So he against Angus. Can't wait for that? 23 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, for mine, it's all about these two Teddy v. Turbo. 24 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 7: We got to see how James Sidesko has gone to 25 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 7: another level. 26 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 6: I think again this year. 27 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 7: There was some criticism of him at the back end 28 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 7: of last year, but this year's been outstanding. 29 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 6: And then Tom. 30 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 7: Travoyvich with that shoulder injury obviously was impaired last week. 31 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 7: It's another week of rehab and a bit more time 32 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 7: under his belt, but still played a crucial moment when 33 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 7: it mattered. 34 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: Les dig a little deeper here with this matchup at 35 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: his mouth watering you know, Tedesco coming up against Tommy 36 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: Tedesco a little bit angry during the week or frustrated 37 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: with the questions asked by the journos and that loss 38 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: against Penrith and Tom, as you said, wasn't one hundred percent, 39 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: but was involved in that match winner against the Dogs. 40 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: This is a big matchup, hoops. 41 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 5: I like the fact that some of the players in 42 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 5: the game at the moment are putting the gloves on 43 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 5: and coming out swinging in defense of their teams, and 44 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 5: Teddy's a classic example. I really felt for Tommy in 45 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 5: that final last Sunday against the Canterbury Banks Down Bulldogs. 46 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 5: You could see he's not right. I'd say he's only 47 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 5: fifty percent right. So he had a noodle in both shoulders. 48 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 5: He's got ac joint problems in the left and the right. 49 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 4: Then he had to have another needle at half time. 50 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 5: But it's his right and it was so heavily strapped 51 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 5: and it restricted his movement. There were times when daily 52 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 5: chair Evans was kicking down field and tom was barely 53 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 5: Evan chasing. Having said all of that, when it mattered 54 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 5: most and the game was in the balance and on 55 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 5: the line, he gets a touch to come up with 56 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 5: a big play to help the Segles to victory. 57 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: How do you think you'll go this week, Tommy? 58 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: I think Tommy be better for the run. I think 59 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: just getting through the eighty minutes. The longer the game 60 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: went on, the more that he wanted to get involved in. 61 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 3: And I know that his body's letting him down a 62 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: little bit, but he's still got the class, you know, 63 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 3: And I think Tommy will pull the trigger. 64 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 5: I think he's so important for them psychologically that that's 65 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 5: why they're actually selecting him. I think if it's any 66 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 5: other time of the year, you're resting tom But him 67 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 5: being in that side just helps the other players grow 68 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 5: and go to another level. 69 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 4: That's why he's there. 70 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: Bro. 71 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: The other key matchup is Oli Kuhatu up against Crichton. 72 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: Like you said earlier, Hoops, and let's dig a little 73 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: deeper here. Oli Kuasu didn't start the game fast last week, 74 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: Kick he had his measure, but then Oli Kauatu came 75 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: over the top and Crichton was solid. Okay, but they 76 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: were just outplayed. This one sets up to be a 77 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: big one too. 78 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 5: He's been so good this year, Angus Crichton. He was 79 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 5: a terminator in the State of Origin series, won the 80 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 5: Brad Phitler Metal as New South Wales's best player. 81 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 4: He wasn't at his best. 82 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 5: I thought Leam Martin had his measure against the Panthers 83 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 5: in the opening week of the finals, so that lluded 84 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 5: you to think, Mick that you'd be expecting a big 85 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 5: response from Angus given it's now sudden death. 86 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt. I agree with Hoops. 87 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 7: I thought Leam Martin had the points again in that 88 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 7: one on one battle last week against Angus Crichton, and 89 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 7: not too many players can say that against Angus, you know, 90 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 7: particularly after the first month of the season he was 91 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 7: the form forward of the competition for a large part 92 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 7: of this season, and I with Oops, I think he's 93 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 7: a bit about to explode. And Ola Kawatsu he sort 94 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 7: of fell away a little bit around that origin period 95 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 7: as well, but he's last month. I think he's really 96 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 7: kickstarted mainly season again. 97 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: Looking forward this, I think he'll be disappointed. 98 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 3: The way he played Oli Kwaita was absolutely outstanding, probably 99 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: the best battle I've seen between two back rolls on Sunday. 100 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: But yeah, Crichton, what a beast, and I think he'll 101 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: he'll bounce back. 102 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: So another storyline in this one is Matt Lodge taking 103 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: on his old club, the Roosters, and he didn't leave 104 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: on the best of terms. 105 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 4: Expecting fireworks one hundred percent. I think there'll be fireworks. 106 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 5: I think Matt Lodge this will be really personal for 107 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 5: him because when he left the Roosters, he didn't leave 108 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 5: on good terms at all. I don't think Brak So 109 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 5: I think there was some texts exchange. 110 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: Between he said it was okay in the paper he reported, 111 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: oh yeah, but Redi's a little bit of his pr 112 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: officer of time, so he might have been giving you 113 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: the come by version. 114 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: The truth is it wasn't It wasn't all hungry doory 115 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 4: when he left. 116 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 5: He left because there was some text exchange with Trent Robinson. 117 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 5: From that point he was told to go and train 118 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 5: with North Sydney. Don't report the Sydney Roosters headquarters again. 119 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 5: You're now with the North City New South Wales cup side. 120 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 5: So that then paved the way for his transition to Manly. 121 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 5: And I think certainly Matt would love nothing more than 122 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 5: to upstage and knock out the rooster. 123 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: This is good, it is this is what we were 124 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: part of the theater of the day Ready's article on 125 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: the paper. I mean, Matt Lodge is a fiery player. 126 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: He's playing well at the moment. He comes up against 127 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: j W h has been suspended early all year, comes 128 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: back for this game and they go on toe to 129 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: toe and there's bad blood. This is what this is 130 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: what we like to see. 131 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 7: And his guy playing for a contract as well, don't 132 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 7: forget bra. That was his best performance as a Manly 133 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 7: player last week against Canterbury. I thought it was his 134 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 7: best performance probably in a while, and off contract at 135 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 7: the end of the season. There's some uncertainty where he'll 136 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 7: be in actually, and you mentioned Jared, don't Forge, It's 137 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 7: Spencer Lenu as well. So there's plenty of fire brands 138 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 7: in that middle of the field and that's what the 139 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 7: contest is about. 140 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 5: You nearly let read Marney bade him early in that 141 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 5: game against the Bulldogs something that with daily Jerry Evans 142 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 5: and Lodge saw red and went flying in and it 143 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 5: looked as it was about to explode. So definitely, Braith, 144 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 5: I'm tipping. 145 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: Firewards as a forward. Surely you're looking your lips here, Gordy. 146 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, but well you've got to go after Jared, right, 147 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 3: So he's the brumuda for the Roosters and Matt Lodge 148 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 3: and his last month the foot I thought he's actually 149 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 3: played really good, but you've got to get over Jared 150 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 3: and Lodgie. I think he plays against a lot of 151 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,119 Speaker 3: his old clubs with bad blood. 152 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: So this is just another one. 153 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 5: The other thing they got Jared will have some help too. 154 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 5: He's got Spencer lean You on the bench, He's got 155 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 5: Terrell May on the bench. He's gonna have Lindsay Colin 156 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 5: starting alongside him. 157 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 4: Victor I'm not sure. 158 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 5: I'm not sure either, Yeah, not one hundred percent sold. 159 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 5: I know the roosters seem reasonably confident, but given the 160 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 5: way Victor plays, he won't be able to hide anywhere. 161 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 7: They were confident of it, of him playing today, and 162 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 7: the fact that it's similar to the injury that they 163 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 7: nurse Cooper concor and they're completely different, right, you know, 164 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 7: Cooper didn't have to go and make you know, thirty 165 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 7: forty tackles in that Grand Final, And it's not as 166 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 7: severe as Coopers, though it is my understanding at. 167 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: Bit important thing because I don't think a lot of 168 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: us know that. Yeah, everyone's comparing it to Cooper's injury. 169 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: It's not as severe, it's not. It's not a Severest. 170 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: Coopers doesn't need an operation with Coops. Coopers did need 171 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: to be surgically repaired. And if he doesn't play this week, 172 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: they think he'll be almost nearly fully fit for next week. 173 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: So he's getting there and they've got that blue next week. 174 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: Of course, that's right if they lose. And I spoke 175 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: to Yes, as I said last night show, and he 176 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: is preparing to play this week, given until Friday to 177 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: make that decision. Now, I mek, have you got something 178 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: on Sea Bowl's possible extension at the really Seeds. 179 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, a bit of breaking news around Anthony seabols future 180 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 7: because there's been lots of innuendo around him for particularly 181 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 7: in that back half of the season. But mainly have 182 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 7: agreed in internally to extend Anthony Sea Bowls contract. Whether 183 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 7: it be for another twelve or twenty four months, that 184 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 7: will be a discussion that happens at the end of 185 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 7: the season. They haven't taken it to anythingy yet because 186 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 7: they want him to focus on winning this weekend and 187 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 7: the back half of the season. But the management at 188 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 7: the Seaguals have agreed that they think Anthony sebod is 189 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 7: the man to lead them. 190 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: But I have to ask, do you think this is 191 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,679 Speaker 1: premature only because it was only a few weeks ago 192 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: that there were question marks over whether they'd actually sign. 193 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 4: Him at all. 194 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think it's premature for twelve months. I 195 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 7: think because he's got twelve months left on his contract 196 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 7: and to add another twelve month extension, I think he's 197 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 7: earn't that based on the. 198 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: Far Even if they bomb me out this week, they're 199 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: still going to offer him extension. 200 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 6: That's right. Yeah, that's that's the word out of it. 201 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 7: They haven't taken it to Seve yet it might knock 202 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 7: a back right, but the way it is at the moment, 203 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 7: they've agreed that no. 204 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 6: Let's put that aside. 205 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 7: Let's put all that stuff that happened in May to 206 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 7: one side, and let's offer him a new deal, whether 207 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 7: it's twelve months or two years. They'll be part of 208 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 7: the negotiation process. 209 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: But any other clubs chasing him not yet. 210 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 7: No, no, But it's about stability there Gordy as well, 211 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 7: and not coaching for the short term vision. And I 212 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 7: think if they get into week two, I think I 213 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 7: think he's done his job on a good job. 214 00:08:58,440 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 6: I think that's that's where with. 215 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 4: That in the week two, if they make a pro. 216 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 6: I think week two, I think week two's pass of mind. 217 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, to be fair, he has done a good job 218 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 5: under pressure over the back half of the season. And 219 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 5: there's been various periods where told me absolutely so. 220 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,119 Speaker 4: You know, he had players missing throughout. 221 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: The same and Tommy. Of course you're going to kind 222 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: of find a way there, don't you without Tommy because 223 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: he is injured. 224 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 7: They were sitting at twelfth when these contract negotiations sort 225 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 7: of blew up and mainly said well, we're just going 226 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 7: to park this until the end of the season to 227 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 7: assess where you're at. Because if he didn't make the finals, 228 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 7: there was no contract extension, he would have started next 229 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 7: year under massive pressure. 230 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 5: I think that's the right decision, Mick from the Segles, 231 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 5: because he finished twelfth last year and then to be 232 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 5: twelfth this year. I think they got the timing of 233 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 5: that wrong, gooing in and asking for an extension. I 234 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 5: get that you want stability, but he's there next year anyway, 235 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 5: So I think mainly have handled it well as a club. 236 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: Let's get to the next big game this weekend. It 237 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: is the Sharks taking on the Cowboys, and it's a 238 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: tale of two halves. He sets up to be again 239 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: another big game, hard to split, hard to pick. You've 240 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: got a team that's confident Cowboys, You've got a team 241 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: that's struggling with confidence in the Sharks. We've spoken about 242 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: Nicko and he struggles, but this man over here did 243 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: and certainly isn't. He's on the other end of the 244 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: scale at the moment he's flying. How do you think 245 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: this is going to pan out? After what I just 246 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: said then, and I suppose with the mindset of not 247 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: only the teams, but the respective halves going into this one, 248 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: who's got the advantage. 249 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 5: You can't help but lock and respect the way that 250 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 5: Tommy did and goes about his business. He's so direct 251 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 5: when he runs some football, he's so robust. He's an 252 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 5: underrated organizer and defensively it's rarely that you see him 253 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 5: upstaged or get beaten. You love the energy he just 254 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 5: competes on every single play. Where it's fascinating is he 255 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 5: and Nicko are actually going to mark up opposite each other. 256 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 5: So Tommy plays on the left, Nico plays on the right. 257 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 5: If Tommy starts fast and he wants to really take 258 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 5: him on, well he can make an early statement for one. 259 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 7: In assessor who's going to own the big moments in 260 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 7: this game? And you look at three North Queensland players 261 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 7: you got did and drink Water and val Homes, guys 262 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 7: that you think when the ball in their hands, when 263 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 7: the game is going to be on the line. You 264 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 7: look at the Sharks and who do we think is 265 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 7: going to own those big moments? And that's the question 266 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 7: marks around the Sharks headed into the Door Die game. 267 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: Well, Nikko said last night and in his interview that 268 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 3: he's going to grab him that he's just going to 269 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 3: keep on going to the moments and he'll get one right. 270 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 3: And Niko hasse but like you're right about Tommy did, 271 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 3: and he's just an on the ball player. He's in 272 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 3: every face, just tenacious and has a crack. You're probably 273 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 3: backed the Cowboys, I think, you know, coming through the 274 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: origin period. I think they've come through AKA and they 275 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 3: got big game plays. You saw Codder like those guys. 276 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 3: I reckon this is you know, this is their last two. 277 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: Niko Hines has been the story of the week. Am 278 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: I over exaggerating or out of line if I say 279 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: that this is possibly the most important game of his 280 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: career to date. 281 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 6: I don't think you're no. I don't think you're exaggerated. 282 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 7: And obviously he's played, he played in it, or he 283 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 7: didn't get on the field in round final for the Storm, 284 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 7: played a couple of origins, but at the moment with 285 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 7: a club level. 286 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: In the circumstances, and not just because it's a final, 287 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: given the lead uprutiny, scrutiny, and. 288 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 7: It's just not him, no break, that's the thing. I 289 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 7: think it's the whole Sharks will be feeling this pressure. 290 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 7: But he it's magnified because he is their million dollar 291 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 7: man and then number seven, but no doubt if they 292 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 7: fall out in straight sets, we know what the narrative 293 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 7: is going to be, not just on Niko, but on 294 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 7: the club, on CRAF. It's given as a coach and 295 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 7: they can't shake that until he walks away with a 296 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 7: big moment, big play to win his side a finals game. 297 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 3: I don't It's like they're hard working and you think 298 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 3: that they get to this position or they just got 299 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 3: to jump the next hurdle, and Niko Heines' is a 300 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: million all to play. That's what they brought him to do. 301 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 3: They brought him to get to this position and get 302 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: him across the line. 303 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 5: Listing the Brandy Alexander on Sunday, I wondered is his 304 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 5: best position fallback because that was where he went on 305 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 5: that red hot run when he really shot the prominence 306 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 5: that the Melbourne dom. And yes he had a breakout 307 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 5: season initially with Coronella in the number seven jumper, but 308 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 5: we haven't seen it consistently now, for this is two 309 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 5: years running. Got an opportunity in Origin that didn't pan 310 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 5: out as well as you would have liked. So I 311 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 5: don't think it's overstating at all, but this is the 312 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 5: biggest game of Niko's career. 313 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: Hopefully stands up and he delivers. I love him to 314 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: do that. I mean, as I said, I know what 315 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: it feels like, and a lot of other players in 316 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: the competition do and this is his moment, this is 317 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: his opportunity. Now you mentioned pressure. You mentioned pressure on 318 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: the Sharks and their coach, Craig Fitzgibbon. Todd Payton, the 319 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: other coach for the Cowboys, who's under more pressure here 320 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: as a coach? They've both done. I think they've done 321 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: a really good job to get to where they are 322 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: this season. But who needs this more? Who wants this more? 323 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: Who's under the spotlight more? Go ask the fans? 324 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: I reckon. They both say that they do. I reckon. 325 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 3: It's pretty even. I think Fitz he's done a great 326 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 3: job with the squad that he's got. He wants to 327 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: win at this time of the year. And I think 328 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: that Todd. I think the Cowboys had probably a slightly 329 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 3: better roster. They've got origin players. They're up there, and 330 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 3: you know, I think they've liked their chances. I think 331 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: that they're building nicely. 332 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 5: There's no doubt Fits he's under more pressure. I actually 333 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 5: don't think that's justified or warranted because if you look 334 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 5: at the roster, they've got two Kuwe internationals in Britain 335 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 5: Nicer and Ronaldo Moulatalo, and aside from that, they don't 336 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 5: have a state of origin player. Yes, they'll get Adam 337 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 5: Finiel Blake who's an international, next season, but I think 338 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 5: to have them in the top four the way that 339 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 5: he has for all of this year and then also 340 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 5: in his initial season last year, they made the finals, 341 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 5: went OutWeek one, didn't finish top four. But I think 342 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 5: with the roster that he's got and what he gets 343 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 5: out of them over the course of an entire season, 344 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 5: he deserves credit. But you need to win in September 345 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 5: and so far Fits is oh and four, so he's 346 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 5: under more pressure go out in. 347 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: Straight sets again. It's going to be interesting to see 348 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: the backlash and what actually comes of and of course 349 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: they will cop criticism from the media and fans. But 350 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: what fits you? What move fits he makes next to 351 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: make sure it doesn't happen again. 352 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 7: I think they've done that by bringing Adam phil Blake in. 353 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 7: I really think if you look at that full park, 354 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 7: it's same same a lot and there's a lot of toilers, 355 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 7: a lot of guys that row this leaves up, but 356 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 7: there's not a lot of dynamic players in the middle 357 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 7: of the field to break a game open. And that's 358 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 7: what Adam Fanil Blake were doing off the back of 359 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 7: Blake Brayley. I think it's going to be a lethal 360 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 7: combination next year. I think he's the game changer that 361 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 7: they desperately. 362 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 4: Need depending on how they play. 363 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 5: If Kennedy has another game similar to what he had 364 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 5: against the Melbourne Storm last week, and then I'm thinking, well, 365 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 5: maybe he looks at surgery in terms of the spine, 366 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 5: so Nico goes back to fullback. That Daniel Atkinson is 367 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 5: a competitor. He brings so much energy when he comes 368 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 5: on the field, and we've seen in the limited opportunities 369 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 5: that he's been given he's up to it, like he 370 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 5: orchestrated victory over the Melbourne Storm at Amy earlier this season. 371 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 5: He's a damn good young player, so I think we 372 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 5: might see him if they lose, then they start to 373 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 5: look at wholesale changes. 374 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: So much pressure on all of the teams in the finals, 375 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: none more so than the Canwa Sharks. Now, last night 376 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: we saw Jason Ryles, the coach of the Paramount. He'll 377 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: speak for the first time and what was to come 378 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: of that was the topic of Clint Gupherson and mainly 379 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: playing nine or thirteen. A lot of speculation and articles 380 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: written today about that. Hoops, what have you got on 381 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: this situation? 382 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 5: I found it disrespectful and confusing the way that the 383 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 5: Eels of address that issue. So Clint Gutherson's their captain. 384 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 5: He won their Players Player Award this season, won the 385 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 5: Coaches Award. The members who vote for it said he 386 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 5: was Paramatta's best player this season. Yet now Rosie wants 387 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 5: to go in. So there's their awards night from the 388 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 5: other night. RCG was the best player of the year, 389 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 5: Guffe got Players Player, Coaches Award, the Members award, and 390 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 5: then Blaze Telangi got Rookie of the Year. 391 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: Well, two of. 392 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 5: Those blokes are definitely going to be gone next year, 393 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 5: and in all likelihood, I think the Guffo may also 394 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 5: be gone too, because I don't see how a player 395 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 5: at thirty years of age who spent his entire career 396 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 5: as a fullback would have any appetite whatsoever, So you 397 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 5: transition or annoying. 398 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: I said last night, from the outside looking in, it 399 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: feels like he could be getting pushed here. What do 400 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: you think? 401 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that Paramatter are trying to force him 402 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 5: to make the decision. So rather than them saying tapping 403 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 5: him on the shoulder a lot what they did with CG, 404 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 5: I think they're saying, no, no, no, we love you, 405 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 5: We've still got a spot for you. We just want 406 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 5: you to play thirteen and a little bit of hooker 407 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 5: or maybe off the bench. You can't have a nine 408 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollars bench player. 409 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 4: You just can't. 410 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: He's not really a nine or thirteen. And he can 411 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: negotiate as of November one. 412 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 4: Right, he can. 413 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 5: And that's where I think it'll really heat up. 414 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 4: I think St. 415 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: Georgia. 416 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: The idea of this is how I'm visualizing it is. 417 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 2: Paramatter are like, okay. 418 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: Let's just see how we go. Let's see how we go. 419 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: I guess in November one Gutho's management act, they go, well, 420 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: hang on, we've got somewhere, and they go, okay, where 421 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: you can go? Right, That's how I see. 422 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 2: Who's still thinking he's the best number one for paramatter. 423 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: Oh well, I mean young, is it I only? 424 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: So? 425 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: I think it's I only. I've got big raps on him. 426 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: So but but I haven't seen him in first grade 427 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: week after week after week. And you know it's hard 428 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: to say that goody right now. 429 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 5: But how would you feel if you're a fullback and 430 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 5: you got told that you had to play lock or 431 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 5: dummy half? 432 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 4: How would you feel as a player? 433 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 3: Well, most back rollers, I'd probably have gone under the 434 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 3: front row. No, but like the most Miles went from 435 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 3: center in the you know, into the back row. 436 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 4: J Miles was six foot for mate G Miles. 437 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 2: We get it. But the game's changed. 438 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 3: So now with mam and you see, you know the 439 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 3: way Salmon and and and there are roles that you 440 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 3: can go play in the middle. And you've got Kobe 441 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 3: Heatherington at the. 442 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 2: Start. I get it. 443 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 3: But if you're not good enough to play full back, 444 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 3: you don't keep on playing full back. And cost I 445 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 3: think he's just lost his speed. I think I think 446 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 3: he still has a lot of value. I think the 447 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 3: way the fullback game has played now, I think it 448 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 3: may have gone past him unless he was injured. Unless 449 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 3: he's got a saw back and he can freshen up 450 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 3: and you know, just explode next year. 451 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 5: I'm glad you raised because in the last three games 452 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 5: of the season he had three broken ribs and he 453 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 5: had a quad injury. Yet he's still getting painkilling noodles 454 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 5: to go out. 455 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: And play it. 456 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 5: And I think that's why that we do know that 457 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 5: now because we've checked it. 458 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: These are his numbers. 459 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 5: These are his numbers in comparison to the other fullbacks 460 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 5: in the competition, in terms of some of the things 461 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 5: that he produced over the course of the year. These 462 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 5: numbers are why Sir George Lawara, the Dragons, I believe 463 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 5: in all likelihood will be where Clint Gutherson goes to 464 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 5: as of November one, and they're able to table an 465 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 5: official contract and then it's a matter of Paramatter and 466 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 5: the Dragons coming to an agreement to release him a 467 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 5: year ell from. 468 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: His field of dragons, because sometimes you just need to change, 469 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: You just need to change. It would be good for 470 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: Paramatta to That's why I'm away. I'm thinking we're to 471 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: sloan in the future, but they need experience, but can 472 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: slow and play anywhere else to play him at full 473 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: bat potential. You're a man in a dragons Man so. 474 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 7: Well, I think guthuson the move that the position will 475 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 7: switches into the surprise has been mooted for whiles. The 476 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 7: fact that they're moving him into that thirteen number nine row. 477 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 7: If he was going to get shifted to six or 478 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 7: at center, you'd probably understand and accommodate that. 479 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 6: Right. 480 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 7: The fact that he is a guy at his age 481 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 7: is going to be forced to work in the middle 482 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 7: of the field is strange, but he's the way Jason 483 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 7: Roles has described it is around Dylan Walker and Tyron 484 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 7: wish up right, guys that have played a lot of 485 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 7: footy in the outside backs have gone into the middle 486 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 7: of the field and done an outstanding job. And that's 487 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 7: a style of footy that he wants to play. Whether 488 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 7: it works or not, I'm not sure, but that is 489 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 7: the style that he wants. He wants Clink Gunson on 490 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 7: the ball, so he can have Dylan Brown and Mitch 491 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 7: Moses and really reinvent Paramatt's. 492 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: Attack and he can do a job there. He can 493 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: do a job there, So that's the way it would work. 494 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: But is he going to want to do that job? 495 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 5: I think if he's got an opportunity at another club 496 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 5: to play fullback, and I think in all likelihood that 497 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 5: can present itself at Saint George Lawara, then there's no 498 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 5: question he would prefer that as opposed to. 499 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 7: Like Gordy said, what happens to Sloane, Well, he just 500 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 7: shifted to the week's push. 501 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 4: Him to the wing. Look, there were some games. 502 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 3: There were some games, so then like Lomaks you said, 503 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 3: he doesn't want to get moved. So you move a 504 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 3: twenty year old kid. That's the future of your club, 505 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 3: So you move him, then hegoes. 506 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 5: But Gordy, there were some games, You've got to be 507 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 5: fair games this year defensively where he made some poor 508 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 5: reads and poor decisions. And I know he's only young, 509 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 5: and I have no doubt that he's going to make 510 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 5: it as a career n RL player, But I just 511 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 5: think if you can bring in a player of Guhson's experience, 512 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 5: well he could help Slane. He could school him up 513 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 5: on all those the left areas defensively where you need 514 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 5: to position yourself, how you talking the line. 515 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: The way that Guffer reads and moves before the play 516 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: and preemps play, and that that's his specialty. That's that's 517 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: why he's full of energies and energizer Bunny. That's why 518 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: the fans love him. That's why the clubs loved him 519 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: for so long. So you know, and and St. George 520 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: need experience and for him it's invaluable what he could 521 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: add to Sloane over the next couple of seas as 522 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: if he went there, I think it's a good move. 523 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 7: He'd be a game changer for the Dragons because you're 524 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 7: throwing Damian cook and about homes and they're buying much 525 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 7: needed experience which they don't have. And there's a real 526 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 7: depth of that at the Dragons. And you look at 527 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 7: the uncertainty around Ben han or whatever the case may be. 528 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 7: And he's a guy that trains hard and works hard 529 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 7: and really a Shane Flanagan sort of player. And we've 530 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 7: seen the way flannag and get the best out of it. 531 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: Looks like you'll lose the captaincy, right, Yes, it's Mitch Moses' 532 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: team now, it is Mitch Moses. 533 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 7: That the keys have to be given to Mitch Moses 534 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 7: and say this is your side. And that's not a 535 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 7: disrespect to Clint Gutherison. This is the fact that Mitch 536 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 7: Moses is now one of the premiere players in the competition. 537 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 7: We've seen what he can do at origin level. He's 538 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 7: got to do that now weekend week out at club level, 539 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 7: and he's the natural leader for the Yels now all. 540 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: Right, Phil Gold has questioned joshadow Carr's honesty is the 541 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: bulldogs we of repairs to meet with the NRL over 542 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: his failed roadside drug test. 543 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 8: Josh Adakar came to us with a certain version of events, 544 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 8: and that over time changed slightly from day to day 545 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 8: depending on what had been sort of revealed. At the 546 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 8: end of the day, what we have is a positive 547 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 8: drug test that there were drugs in his system last 548 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,239 Speaker 8: Friday night. I believe he's still protesting his innocence in that, 549 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 8: but it's somehow somewhere he's going to have to explain 550 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 8: to himself and explain to people that matter exactly how 551 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 8: that's happened and then why we've gone through what we've 552 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 8: gone through over the last week or so with that. 553 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 8: It was certainly bad timing at a car I believe 554 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 8: on Thursday has a meeting with the NURL Integrity Unit. 555 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 8: They'll make a determination then on what penalty they will deliver, 556 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 8: and then it's up to the Bulldogs club to deal 557 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 8: with it. I will make a decision on what or 558 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 8: a recommendation to the board. At some point there will 559 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 8: be a discussion with his manager and with Josh going forward. 560 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 8: It's as simple as that, and that's what we have 561 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 8: to do. 562 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: Bulldogs general manager Gus Guls saying that Josh's version of 563 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: events changed day by day, and we saw it play 564 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: out in the media. We saw Gus tweet and you know, 565 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: so we could smell a bit of a rat there, right, 566 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: there was something not right about the situation. What do 567 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: we make of this? And where is his head? 568 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 7: Well, it's headed to the n OL's integrity office tomorrow 569 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 7: for Josh to face the music and the and the 570 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 7: key question that that Gus has said there is well, 571 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 7: how did it end up? How have you tested positive? 572 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 7: How can you explain the positive result? 573 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: And we know is there any story coming out of 574 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: Josh's camp. 575 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 6: He's still protesting his innocence. 576 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 7: He's protesting his innocence there so, and that's what Gus 577 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 7: has said that He's maintained that line throughout the last 578 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 7: couple of weeks. 579 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 5: I've heard all sorts of strategy and the fiction theories, 580 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 5: what's worth telling, what's right? 581 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 4: What's wrong? 582 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 2: Breath? 583 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 4: How would you know it right? But tomorrow Josh is 584 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 4: going to have to front. He's going to He's going 585 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 4: to have to. 586 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 5: Have a version of events that he that he says 587 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 5: is the truth, and then it will be up to 588 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 5: the NRL Integrity Unit what they decide the punishment is. 589 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 5: Off the back of that, I think Guskill will have 590 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 5: set up meetings with Josh's people for the coming days. 591 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: Beyond that, it'll be up to Gus to believe that story. Now, 592 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: yes too, because that's a big thing. It wasn't so well. 593 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: It is that the tested positive. I said it again. 594 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: I think it was yesterday or the night before, but 595 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: he tested positive. But he's lied to Guss throughout the process, 596 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: which makes it ten times worse. Now he's going to 597 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: come and say his first. 598 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 7: Foot he played the lights come out and publicly backed 599 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 7: him Gorhea. I think that's the issue here, that he's 600 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 7: taken him on his word and come out and publicly 601 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 7: backed him, and now he's had to retract or maneuver 602 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 7: differently because of the outcome. 603 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 6: I think every day. I think that's the concern for 604 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 6: the Bulldogs and Josh ado Car. 605 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 5: I get the feeling the Bulldogs will part ways with 606 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 5: Josh Adaka. 607 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 4: That's just the way that it reads, Braith. 608 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 5: Given the fact that the version of events has had 609 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 5: a variety of different takes on it as it's evolved. 610 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 5: I mean, you've had a lot to do with Gus 611 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 5: over the years. So to me, he doesn't strike me 612 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 5: as a type of blow who is going to cop 613 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 5: people not being one hundred percent up front. If you've 614 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 5: got a problem and you go to him and you say, 615 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 5: I've got this issue, this is what it is, and 616 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 5: you're totally transparent, he's probably going to give you a 617 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 5: little bit more latitude. But I think where it sits 618 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 5: at the moment, i'd be surprised. Look, Shane Flanagan has 619 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 5: got a big check book at Saint George Laura. I'd 620 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 5: be surprised if he's another one that he decides he 621 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 5: might have a look at the Fox. 622 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: We're talking to a few hierarchy at the Bulldogs over 623 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: the last week. They were not happy with how this 624 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: played out. I'd be surprised if he's still at the 625 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: club next year. That's just my opinion. Josh Shuster has 626 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: signed with the South Sydney rabbito. As we expected this. 627 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: I think it's a good signing. 628 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:36,479 Speaker 2: I really do. 629 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: Josh hopefully can change his ways and he's got a 630 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: new beginning, fresh start, best coach in the business who 631 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: gets players like him to find their best he'd hope so. 632 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: But I actually think this is really good signing. 633 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 3: Gordy, Yeah, absolutely, it's up to it's not ability. 634 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 2: I think it's work ethic. 635 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 3: I think it's he wanted to pay the price. We 636 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 3: watched him play a couple of times this year. He 637 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 3: just looked a big, thick set guy. He wants to 638 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 3: play five eight and he's a backgrower, so I think 639 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 3: that's one thing that you got to get out of 640 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 3: his head. He can play the thirteen Isaiah Isaiah a 641 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 3: roll and I think he can do it to a t, 642 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 3: but I don't think five eight. I don't think being 643 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 3: on the ball and making those decisions is his role. 644 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 5: You spot on, Gordiels, remember that day at Kombank Stadium 645 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 5: when Bob Fulton died and Josh shust absolutely tall paramatter 646 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 5: to shreds. He has got it in him, but he 647 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 5: needs to figure out the right application, get his diet, 648 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 5: cherry ripe, all those little one scenarios. 649 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 4: I think he needs to stay off the cherry rops. 650 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 5: I think all the best thing about what's happened with 651 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 5: Josh and the Bunnies is that he's going to be 652 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 5: paired with Wayne Bennett. Because if there's a coach in 653 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 5: the game who has more experience than Wayne with getting 654 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 5: players who might have been a little bit errant back 655 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 5: into the zone, it's Taylor, mate. 656 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 6: And it's cut priced ill. 657 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 7: For Josh, he carried that burden of expectation at mainly 658 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 7: on eight hundred thousand dollars on about two hundred thousand, 659 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 7: I'd say around that two hundred thousand dollar MinC. I'd 660 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 7: say that's our sceny for twelve by twelve months to 661 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 7: prove himself. You know, soths don't have a lot of 662 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 7: money in their cap, so they're spending their money wisely. 663 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 7: So I think it's a great deal. I think to 664 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 7: go there without expectation, without burden. We all know what 665 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 7: sort of talent he was. He was one of the 666 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 7: most enjoyable players to watch when he came on with 667 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 7: the scene. So let's all hope that, you know, he 668 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 7: knuckles down against the best ability. 669 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: His destinies in his own hands. I remember watching Josh 670 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,719 Speaker 1: you would have been sixteen, maybe around that age, fifteen 671 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: sixteen at a blues camp with Halves and the elite 672 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: level with Freddie and Denny Bidieras and Andrew Johns, and 673 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: he stood out like he was a freak. And I 674 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: remember walking away thinking, this kid's going to make it. 675 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: And you watch him plays first few games. The skill 676 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: level is just out of this world. But it's just 677 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: his work ethic right, and his attitude, and really it's 678 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: all about controlling the controllables. They are very controllable things. 679 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: It's an easy part. 680 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 3: It's the easy part of the game that he's got 681 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 3: to get right. 682 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: And if he wants a future in the game, this 683 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: is his opportunity, all right. Tigers have paid tribute to 684 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: Luke Brooks, congratulating him for making the finals. We all 685 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: saw this, This was beautiful. Let's have a look at 686 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: the statement from the what do you laugh at? 687 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: At? What? 688 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: Did they have a look at the statement? On behalf 689 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: of everyone here at the West Tigers. I want to 690 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: congratulate Luke on achieving something that is want that he 691 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: has wanted for a long time. Luke spent more than 692 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: a decade at the West Tigers as a West Tiger's player. Sorry, 693 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: so he will always be part of this family. He 694 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: showed loyalty when many didn't. Fair point there. For Richard, 695 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,479 Speaker 1: it's very I don't know, very nice. 696 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 5: That'll do my brak, that will dead set do right. 697 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 5: Did we see Penrith put out statements when Billy kick out, 698 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 5: Stephen Crichton, any other player who's left their club make 699 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,719 Speaker 5: it through their first final series NA The West Tigers 700 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 5: put a statement out when James Tedesco won Grand Finals 701 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 5: with the Sydney Roosters. When Mitchell Moses took Paramatter to 702 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 5: a Grand Final. Note, this is one of the most 703 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 5: bizarre things and we've seen a lot of stranger than fiction. 704 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 4: Days in rugby league. This is in the grand form. 705 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 7: I get the senterate, but I honestly thought it was 706 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 7: a pistake. When I saw it, I was like, this 707 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 7: is not real. This really isn't someone's poking fun, Someone's 708 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 7: hacked their website, someone's done something and for it to 709 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 7: come out and it's you know. Shane Richardson said today 710 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 7: it's time to enter the hate in rugby league and 711 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 7: this is his way and. 712 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 6: The hate and share the love. Baby. 713 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 3: It's actually noble but a private text message. Maybe maybe 714 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 3: it's a private text message from some of the blokes 715 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 3: that he he looked and well done, but not on 716 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 3: a public forum. 717 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: Someone accidentally put it out there, or was the statement 718 00:30:52,600 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: with the photo put an official checked last night because clause. 719 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: But I'm sure Luke really appreciate, appreciate has ever send 720 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: you any thanks? Breath for ah? They just kicked me 721 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: out of the door man, all right. They get smart 722 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: just because you too, are you trying to pick you 723 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: forward at the end of it? Be careful, Mick, love 724 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: your work all right, that you very much think you 725 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: hoops up next to the Legends agenda with Ben Alias 726 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: and Billy Moore.