Speaker 1: From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Thank
Speaker 1: you God for Shrry. What about them? You look the
Speaker 1: vista of the harbor, all of the golden touches loving
Speaker 1: to have her back, and finally everyone's back, all the team,
Speaker 1: No holidays, no sickness, no one anywhere else. The full
Speaker 1: slate of people here from five o'clock in the afternoon
Speaker 1: with Chris Kenny all the way through to Leader Panning
Speaker 1: before you go to bed, and Lenny to talk about
Speaker 1: between now and then, including tonight, let's start to focus
Speaker 1: back on some of the Australian stuff because the CFMEU problems,
Speaker 1: which you've been building for the past world many years,
Speaker 1: but certainly have come to the light in the past
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. I've got some in part for you
Speaker 1: tonight about how it might actually start blowing back on
Speaker 1: specific labor MPs, more information about whether there will it
Speaker 1: won't be a rate increase from the Reserve Bank. There
Speaker 1: are hundreds of thousands of people who are just so
Speaker 1: frightened now. It is amazing that what two weeks ago
Speaker 1: is when the president to former president of the United
Speaker 1: States got shot. Oh but we've all moved on some
Speaker 1: us to talk about really today. The Secret Service hearing,
Speaker 1: which went for four and a half hours, was the
Speaker 1: reason why I didn't get much sleep last night. What
Speaker 1: this lady said was unbelievable. I'll show you some stuff
Speaker 1: you haven't already seen about that this evening. Of course,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about Kamala, because we keep an eye on
Speaker 1: everything happening around the world with the lovely Annalyst Nielsen.
Speaker 1: But first let's start here in Australia and with the
Speaker 1: beautiful state of Queensland. We all know that Stephen Miles
Speaker 1: is desperate. He's a man who knows that his government
Speaker 1: is headed towards a brick wall at the election in October.
Speaker 1: But they are literally spending billions of dollars to try
Speaker 1: to buy their way out of this inevitable fate. Now,
Speaker 1: of course he didn't lie when being asked a question
Speaker 1: about youth crime. Just bite the fact that he lied.
Speaker 1: He's got a special connection with the people of Queen's
Speaker 1: and despite the fact that when he goes to hand
Speaker 1: them how to vote cards, they go no thanks, but
Speaker 1: I'm wearing a baron's jersey. I've got the special hat on.
Speaker 1: Please pay attention to me, and we also know that
Speaker 1: the latest polls show that again he's going to lose
Speaker 1: this election. He's part of what Channel nine had to
Speaker 1: report a couple of days ago. Today's you gov numbers
Speaker 1: have the LNP ahead fifty seven percent to forty three
Speaker 1: on a two party preferred basis. So because he's headed
Speaker 1: and circling the drain right now, the Miles government can't
Speaker 1: really rely upon all of their mates in the normal
Speaker 1: media because they can now see which way these things
Speaker 1: are working. So what he's doing is him and all
Speaker 1: of his spin doctors, and you know how the many
Speaker 1: of them are and taxpayer funded spin doctors. Well they're
Speaker 1: trying to sort of go around the media. This is
Speaker 1: sort of the full Daniel Andrews play, which is to
Speaker 1: go all in on social media. Now, I've got to say,
Speaker 1: whatever charm other leaders have had on social media, Steven
Speaker 1: Miles doesn't have it now. He's shameless and he's trying
Speaker 1: a million times over and over, and he somehow thinks
Speaker 1: that he'll be able to present himself as a new
Speaker 1: broom for Queensland. But have a look at how cringey
Speaker 1: some of this stuff.
Speaker 2: Is just arrived here at Heatley Secondary College in Townsville,
Speaker 2: and we're going to go and meet one of our
Speaker 2: gps and schools.
Speaker 1: So let's checks.
Speaker 2: And these new buses here have been made in Queensland
Speaker 2: by Queensland workers. They're pushing right off the production line
Speaker 2: every single day from them.
Speaker 1: Good luck. But there is an issue that he can't
Speaker 1: quite get around with all of his sort of look
Speaker 1: at me, I'm cool, I'm different stuff, and he's obviously
Speaker 1: not cool, but he's different, is of course the housing issue. Now.
Speaker 1: Rental accommodation in Queensland in particular is really really difficult.
Speaker 1: In fact, according to a new national report which came
Speaker 1: in the past couple of days, it showed that national
Speaker 1: rent's gone up by nine percent in twelve months and
Speaker 1: in places like Queensland that means sixty bucks a week
Speaker 1: that it has gone up by Now, the Liberal Party
Speaker 1: decided to have a little joke back at the way
Speaker 1: that Stephen Miles tries to go around the news to
Speaker 1: invent his own picture of how healthy the government is
Speaker 1: and how they're not trying to buy your vote. They're
Speaker 1: just doing all of these amazing things that just so
Speaker 1: happened to start in August and finish in December. No
Speaker 1: promise of permanent changes. But they've already tried to buy
Speaker 1: off voters with their power bill stuff, and they're trying
Speaker 1: to distract voters with their public transport stuff. But the
Speaker 1: Liberal Party decided, okay, we're going to kind of play
Speaker 1: this silly game, and they decided to use one of
Speaker 1: the many filters that are on TikTok, Snapchat, Instagram, all
Speaker 1: of those which can make it look like somebody is
Speaker 1: doing something that clearly they're not doing. In this case,
Speaker 1: Stephen Miles dancing. Now that wasn't Stephen Miles, was it?
Speaker 1: In fact, this was Stephen Miles dancing if we can
Speaker 1: guys now clearly that's not Stephen Miles. And the Commodore
Speaker 1: sixty four is not working well for us tonight. But
Speaker 1: still these filters, which are clearly not true, have been
Speaker 1: used on all sorts of people, including this is a
Speaker 1: photo that people were posting all over on TikTok on
Speaker 1: the night of the last federal election. And this went
Speaker 1: quite a way around and apparently Paul Murray was crying
Speaker 1: on Sky News, you know, because he was close to
Speaker 1: Scott Morrison and he hated the idea. But of course
Speaker 1: I wasn't. It just was the ability to digitally mean
Speaker 1: pipulate someone's face to make it seem like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is the proof of what they're really doing, when the
Speaker 1: truth is that that isn't what was happening. So the
Speaker 1: Liberal Party decided to put out a video today, and
Speaker 1: that Liberal Party video was of Stephen Miles dancing. Stephen
Speaker 1: Miles then decided to complain that all of this was
Speaker 1: a massive problem because it was a threat to democracy.
Speaker 1: Now he of course, was trying to change the subject
Speaker 1: from his own government's poor performance.
Speaker 2: This individual video might be harmless enough, but I think
Speaker 2: it represents a turning point for our democracy. Until now,
Speaker 2: we've known that photos could be doctored or photoshopped, but
Speaker 2: we've been trained to believe what we see in video.
Speaker 1: And for a.
Speaker 2: Political party now to be willing to use AI to
Speaker 2: make deep fake attack videos, it's a pretty dangerous turning point.
Speaker 2: And it means that Queenslanders between now and October will
Speaker 2: have to question everything that they see from the LNP.
Speaker 1: This round on the six P of News tonight. But
Speaker 1: I kind of dropped the punchline, didn't I. The Labor
Speaker 1: Party has already done it. They did it with Peter Dutten.
Speaker 1: So perhaps you shouldn't believe anything that comes out of
Speaker 1: the Labor Party saying you can't believe anything that comes
Speaker 1: out of any other party. But Stephen Moss hopeless. That's
Speaker 1: the main point place it took seven minutes to tell you.
Speaker 1: Now again, let's talk about housing and the politics of housing,
Speaker 1: because again in my time where I was away, you're
Speaker 1: talking to a whole bunch of people about their lives,
Speaker 1: and people are very nervous about their kids being able
Speaker 1: to buy something. They're very nervous about people being able
Speaker 1: to find a rental property. And again that survey that
Speaker 1: came out and told us that there has been a
Speaker 1: nine percent increase in the amount of red that people
Speaker 1: are paying. And this now seems that according to prop Track,
Speaker 1: it reveals that the median income has increased from five
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty to six hundred dollars in the past
Speaker 1: twelve months. Now, again we keep being told that, you know,
Speaker 1: cost of living carts stage three, all of that, it
Speaker 1: will help, But if you're somebody who's renting, all of
Speaker 1: that's burnt already by the increase in your rental areas.
Speaker 1: It's also important to notice too that there's bugger all
Speaker 1: places available. Just one point four percent of all of
Speaker 1: the housing, including units, villas, everything is actually available for
Speaker 1: rent at any one time. That is such a small
Speaker 1: part of the market, and we know that they are
Speaker 1: accues up and around the door, be it the suburbs
Speaker 1: of Brucebane or of course Sydney or Melbourne, which brings
Speaker 1: us to again the politics of housing. I think this
Speaker 1: is one of those issues that is really important for
Speaker 1: whoever seeks to move the ball forward for their political
Speaker 1: party at the next election. You have a scenario where
Speaker 1: the Liberal Party has of course got its policies when
Speaker 1: it comes to first homeowners. The Labor Party will claim
Speaker 1: that it does too, and then of course you have
Speaker 1: the Mad Greens, and I'll get to them in a second.
Speaker 1: But of course this politics works in three different ways,
Speaker 1: because of course there are people who own their own home,
Speaker 1: there are peace people who are paying off their own home,
Speaker 1: or there are people who are renting their own home.
Speaker 1: And according to the Bureau of Statistics, this graph which
Speaker 1: will clearly show you that thirty one percent of people
Speaker 1: are owned their home outright, thirty five percent own it
Speaker 1: with a mortgage, or thirty percent rent means that you're
Speaker 1: in a scenario where thirty percent of the country is
Speaker 1: desperate to get a solution to buying a house something
Speaker 1: like what sixty six percent will already own their own
Speaker 1: home or trying to pay their own home off. So
Speaker 1: the value of an existing property, they want two thirds
Speaker 1: it to go up, but one third who want to
Speaker 1: get in of course, want it to continue to go down,
Speaker 1: which is where the Greens come in. Now, the Greens
Speaker 1: had a pretty good election in twenty twenty two. They
Speaker 1: were able to have a particularly good election by getting
Speaker 1: people elected to the lower House in Queensland. It is
Speaker 1: incredible how many people support the Greens, or at least
Speaker 1: enough of them support the Greens to beat the Labor
Speaker 1: Party in seats, and once you put the preferences together,
Speaker 1: it's the Greens that end up coming out on top.
Speaker 1: And they think this issue delivers them more seats. Why
Speaker 1: because nationally they poll anywhere between ten and fifteen percent
Speaker 1: of the vote. But as I just showed you, thirty
Speaker 1: percent of the country rents. So the more rent is,
Speaker 1: the more potential Greens voters. That's why their entire housing
Speaker 1: plan is focused on those who rent. Because if they
Speaker 1: can even lift by five percent the amount of people
Speaker 1: who would vote for them who are renting will then
Speaker 1: they're a chance of being able to leap frog Labor
Speaker 1: and end up winning seats. This is why the Liberal Party,
Speaker 1: in my view, should have a system where they don't
Speaker 1: preference the Greens over Labor. Instead they preference Labor over
Speaker 1: the Greens, as it should be that the Labor Party
Speaker 1: does the same when it comes to the Liberal Party
Speaker 1: and the Teals. But maybe I'm living in fantasy land,
Speaker 1: but still the target. The next couple of targets for
Speaker 1: the Queensland based MPs that are the Greens are these
Speaker 1: two seats. These are seats that they believe are vulnerable
Speaker 1: because of the number of people who are renting them,
Speaker 1: the Seat of Lily and the Seat of Morton. Now
Speaker 1: remember the national average is about thirty percent of people
Speaker 1: who are renting, but it's thirty five percent in the
Speaker 1: seat of Morton, it's thirty seven percent in the Seat
Speaker 1: of Lily. Therefore, they believe that they are able to
Speaker 1: win those seats by targeting the renters who will lift
Speaker 1: their vote get them above the Labor Party and the
Speaker 1: preferences all work their way, but Again, what's interesting about
Speaker 1: this politics is that while it works for a third
Speaker 1: of the electorate, it doesn't work for the other two
Speaker 1: thirds of the electorate. This is why your preferences matter.
Speaker 1: And openly saying that the Green's policy is that the
Speaker 1: value of your home that you own, the value of
Speaker 1: your home that you are paying off, should remain exactly
Speaker 1: what it is today or over time start to go down,
Speaker 1: should be something everyone is paying attention to. But because
Speaker 1: it takes a couple of minutes to explain, people kind
Speaker 1: of roll over. If you preference the Greens, then very
Speaker 1: clearly you are going to end up in a scenario
Speaker 1: where you are backing in a party that wants the
Speaker 1: house you are paying off or the house you have
Speaker 1: paid off to be worth less over time. Now that's
Speaker 1: good for people who would like somebody to be able
Speaker 1: to buy a home, but if you're planning to sell
Speaker 1: your home at some point in your life because of retirement, downsizing,
Speaker 1: or anything else, the amount of money that you will
Speaker 1: have for your retirement will go down with it. In fact,
Speaker 1: the bloke who is all about housing, the one who
Speaker 1: is constantly talks about everyone else in the Federal Parliament
Speaker 1: who is an evil landlord, of course, not mentioning the
Speaker 1: own members of his own party who are in that
Speaker 1: particular situation. Is this bloke and Max Chandler. Mayther gave
Speaker 1: an interview to The Australian newspaper and he says that
Speaker 1: he's made it clear that the minor party's policies are
Speaker 1: aimed at achieving a real decline in housing values over
Speaker 1: time to ensure the next generation have a better chance
Speaker 1: of buying a home. And an interview with The Australian
Speaker 1: as part of a series exploring the Greens policy platform,
Speaker 1: this bloke says the party's key objective was to halt
Speaker 1: housing growth. I think our goal, our stated goal is
Speaker 1: to stop house price growth, so zero percent growth, to
Speaker 1: get wages of a chance to catch up. He says
Speaker 1: he thinks that the net effect will be a stabilization
Speaker 1: of house prices, but the reality is that the Greens
Speaker 1: want the value of the house you have already paid
Speaker 1: off or the one you are paying off, to go down.
Speaker 1: That's two thirds of Australians. But because there are certain
Speaker 1: seats where there are more people that are in that
Speaker 1: third of renters, they of course have totally focused on
Speaker 1: that area. This also matters because, as we know, the
Speaker 1: latest poles have told us that the Labor government is
Speaker 1: headed towards a minority government status. According to the fresh
Speaker 1: Water Pole, they could lose seven eight seats and if
Speaker 1: that's the case, then they absolutely will need the Greens
Speaker 1: to be able to form supply and confidence in the Parliament.
Speaker 1: It will mean that without the Greens vote in the
Speaker 1: House or the Senate, nothing will get done, nothing will
Speaker 1: get past, which means Labor has to own their policy too,
Speaker 1: which is why the Labour Party in the Liberal Party
Speaker 1: should be doing the best they possibly can to preference
Speaker 1: to get rid of the people who would end up
Speaker 1: making the decisions in that minority parliament, be at the
Speaker 1: Teals for the Libs or be at the Greens for Labor.
Speaker 1: But of course they won't because as long as the
Speaker 1: other guy suffers, who cares? Right now, again, I said
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, it's not even a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks since the shooting of Donald Trump, the attended assassination.
Speaker 1: And like everyone and remember we came back into a
Speaker 1: special show on that night. It was so close, like
Speaker 1: it's like millimeters the difference between life and death. And
Speaker 1: while we live at a very sort of pacy time
Speaker 1: where we change the subject all the time and something
Speaker 1: is a bigger and better news story. This is worth
Speaker 1: keeping our eye on for obvious reasons. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: whether you're pro Trump or not. Needing know one pro Trump. Well,
Speaker 1: today we've got another example about a lack of accountability
Speaker 1: that exists in the modern world, the lack of accountability
Speaker 1: that I've shown you multiple times in multiple ways. Be
Speaker 1: it about the COVID situation where people died alone in
Speaker 1: this country. I know you can't have a royal commission.
Speaker 1: Be it people like Daniel Andrews, who of course get
Speaker 1: the Gold Medal for public health despite the fact that
Speaker 1: of course there was the longest lockdown of all time,
Speaker 1: and many other examples, And I've spoken to you about
Speaker 1: this many times before, that people just don't get the
Speaker 1: sack when they do the wrong job. Instead, you just
Speaker 1: find a way to keep the job, and then eventually
Speaker 1: all of the people who will keep you in the
Speaker 1: job then give you awards for the job that you did.
Speaker 1: And the public well, computer says no. Well, the boss
Speaker 1: of the Secret Service gave evidence today to a collection
Speaker 1: of politicians in Washington. Now this was a four and
Speaker 1: a half hour hearing. Each politician had about five minutes
Speaker 1: to ask questions, and a lot of them wanted to
Speaker 1: ask questions. And apparently the boss of the Secret Service,
Speaker 1: who of course is in charge of the organization that
Speaker 1: failed because the shooter was so close. The shooter had
Speaker 1: been seen for a couple of minutes before the shooter,
Speaker 1: who should have been taken out, way before Donald Trump
Speaker 1: even got on the stage. Well, this is how she
Speaker 1: started her day.
Speaker 3: I will now answer any questions that the committee may have.
Speaker 1: Well, unsurprisingly she may have said that, but just like
Speaker 1: many of the people who exist in public life, both
Speaker 1: here in Australia and over there in the United States,
Speaker 1: she didn't answer any questions. Instead, she short of again
Speaker 1: pulled off that Daniel Andrews style thing. Give me credit
Speaker 1: because I'm here not answering your questions, sir.
Speaker 3: I'm sure, as you can imagine, that we are just
Speaker 3: nine days out from this incident, and there's still an
Speaker 3: ongoing investigation, and so I want to make sure that
Speaker 3: any information that we are providing you actual OA. Okay,
Speaker 3: I am here today because I want to answer questions,
Speaker 3: but I also wanted to be.
Speaker 1: Quieted I want to, but you have an answer.
Speaker 4: I don't think you've answered one question from the chairman,
Speaker 4: the ranking member, or me.
Speaker 5: We've got a lot of other people ask and we'll
Speaker 5: see if your record improves.
Speaker 1: But right now you haven't answered I don't think any questions.
Speaker 1: And even she couldn't answer how long she had even
Speaker 1: been preparing for her appearance. This is beyond frustrating. This
Speaker 1: is a level of incompetence that is then wrapped in
Speaker 1: a self belief and a self delusion that somehow you
Speaker 1: can just straight back this. Somebody took a shot and
Speaker 1: hit a former president, which means you filed. The last
Speaker 1: time that happened was Wroe A Reagan, The person who
Speaker 1: was in charge of the Secret Service resigned. Because it's binary,
Speaker 1: you protect them or you file. She filed. She should go.
Speaker 1: But this is how ridiculous it got today.
Speaker 6: How long did you prepare for this hearing?
Speaker 3: I've been preparing for this hearing over the weekend and
Speaker 3: into allow week. Okay, five days, six days as soon
Speaker 3: as I was notified.
Speaker 6: And how long was that about this hearing?
Speaker 7: Okay, four days.
Speaker 3: I began preparing four days, three days. I'm not sure
Speaker 3: the date that I got the letter asking me to
Speaker 3: be here, and what are you sure of?
Speaker 1: Ridiculous? Right? But does it surprise you that this person
Speaker 1: even has the option of whether she resigns or not.
Speaker 1: She should be sacked, But that would of course require
Speaker 1: Joe Biden or Kamala Harris to sack people who underperform.
Speaker 1: Remember when thirteen American service people died when the Americans
Speaker 1: were leaving Afghanistan, leaving billions of stuff behind, and literally
Speaker 1: the world saw the images of people desperate to escape
Speaker 1: a place that Taliban was about to take over again,
Speaker 1: holding onto the bottom of planes and then falling from
Speaker 1: the sky. Not one person lost their job for that.
Speaker 1: Now we see this increasingly in the way that modern
Speaker 1: government works. Modern government more powerful than ever before, more
Speaker 1: of them than ever before, more rules than ever before,
Speaker 1: more ways to punish you if you do the wrong thing,
Speaker 1: But when they do the wrong thing, nothing happens. People
Speaker 1: are frustrated in general with a lot of things right
Speaker 1: now from the media, who, as we know, have covered
Speaker 1: up the truth of what's been happening in America for
Speaker 1: the past three and a half years. They're frustrated with
Speaker 1: government itself that again just finds new ways to make
Speaker 1: your life harder. But they are ultimately frustrated that the
Speaker 1: system is so slanted that it'll come down on you
Speaker 1: like a ton of bricks. But when it comes to them,
Speaker 1: somehow magically, they always avoid consequences. Think about it. From
Speaker 1: your local council to state government, federal government, and governments overseas.
Speaker 1: We've had enough. But sadly they they don't care, which
Speaker 1: is why when it's your turn to vote, you need
Speaker 1: to seriously think about voting for people who do care
Speaker 1: and who are going to legitimately challenge the system. You
Speaker 1: may feel lonely at a dinner party or a barbecue,
Speaker 1: but I promise you the people who see the system
Speaker 1: for what it is are the people who will fix it.
Speaker 1: The people who do not are the ones who are
Speaker 1: just going along for the ride, and they may end
Speaker 1: up being more powerful and more well known in the
Speaker 1: history books than you or I and most people put together.
Speaker 1: But their lack of basic decency and accountability is something
Speaker 1: that is just unforgivable. It truly is. Now quickly on
Speaker 1: the Kamala Harris stuff. Now, let me explain how my
Speaker 1: plan is or what my plan is to cover this
Speaker 1: for the next couple of nights, and then obviously it'll
Speaker 1: change where it'll come down for a little while, it'll
Speaker 1: get up and down as we go towards November, which
Speaker 1: is I am going to talk about it, sometimes the
Speaker 1: very start of the show, sometimes at the very end
Speaker 1: of the editorial, sometimes only with the panel. Sometimes we'll
Speaker 1: have special guests from America, and you know, we've got
Speaker 1: incredible people like analysts that will be on later tonight.
Speaker 1: And I know there's lots of people they send me
Speaker 1: emails going, geez, what are you was talking about American
Speaker 1: politics because, for obvious reasons, the consequences of who is
Speaker 1: the leader of the free world will it has all
Speaker 1: sorts of consequences. If you're somebody who's particularly focused on
Speaker 1: things like the economy, well, what happens in America does
Speaker 1: affect a lot of the rest of the world. If
Speaker 1: you're somebody who cares about what's happening when it comes
Speaker 1: to defense, what happens with America affects a lot of
Speaker 1: the world. If you're somebody who believes that the Paris
Speaker 1: Agreement is where we should be going and we in
Speaker 1: fact we should be doubling down versus it's too restrictive.
Speaker 1: It lets China off the hook, and China should be
Speaker 1: pulled into line before the rest of the world's pulled
Speaker 1: into line. Well, then guess what what happens in America matters,
Speaker 1: which is why I talk about it as frequently as
Speaker 1: we do now. I of course, I'm completely aware that
Speaker 1: there's a show before me, there's a show after me,
Speaker 1: there's a couple of shows before me, a couple of
Speaker 1: shows up to me, and yes they may talk about
Speaker 1: it too. But all I ever control, and have ever
Speaker 1: controlled in all the time I've ever been here, is
Speaker 1: this real estate. This real estate. And I will choose
Speaker 1: to sometimes lead with something that you might have heard
Speaker 1: somebody else, but I can always promise you this. I'll
Speaker 1: always try to find the fact or the detail that
Speaker 1: moves the ball forward and gives you a greater understanding
Speaker 1: of what's going on, rather than just ye boo, which
Speaker 1: is not a comment on any of my colleagues, but
Speaker 1: it's just some of the coverage. Generally, you can get
Speaker 1: really granular with this stuff. Sometimes I make get a
Speaker 1: bit like that. If I ever get too boring about that,
Speaker 1: I apologize, send me emails. But I want to make
Speaker 1: sure that you are the smartest person in the room
Speaker 1: understanding what is happening in the race, not just cheering
Speaker 1: for one side of the race. So let's get to
Speaker 1: what happened today. It's all a stitch up because Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris is going to be the Democratic nominee. She ended
Speaker 1: up getting into a place where she has all of
Speaker 1: the delegates, all of the money, no one is going
Speaker 1: to challenge her. So all this garbage odds a process
Speaker 1: and open process. We didn't rig it from behind closed doors,
Speaker 1: a utter rubbish. So now let's just start getting to
Speaker 1: the reality. It is Trump versus Harris. It is Harris
Speaker 1: versus Trump. Kamala Harris spoke today at her campaign headquarters
Speaker 1: where she believes that everyone hates Trump and that's why
Speaker 1: you should vote for her.
Speaker 8: Before I was elected as Vice president, before I was
Speaker 8: elected as United States Senator, I was the elected attorney
Speaker 8: general I've mentioned at California, and before that, I was
Speaker 8: a courtroom prosecutor.
Speaker 6: In those roles, I took on perpetrators of all.
Speaker 8: Kinds, fraudsters who ripped off consumers, cheters.
Speaker 6: Who broke the rules for their own game.
Speaker 8: So hear me when I say I know Donald Trump's tape.
Speaker 1: But of course we all know if you've been paying
Speaker 1: attention to everything about the reality of some of these
Speaker 1: court appearances and all of the most consequential ones, like
Speaker 1: say what happened when it came to January sixth, all
Speaker 1: the document stuff, and most of that's probably going to
Speaker 1: melt away. So vote for me because I'm the prosecutor.
Speaker 1: Don't vote for him because he's the criminal. Okay, great,
Speaker 1: you've won over all the people who were all are
Speaker 1: going to vote for you. Got anything else?
Speaker 8: He and his extreme project twenty twenty five will weaken
Speaker 8: the middle class and bring us backward.
Speaker 6: Please do note that.
Speaker 8: America has tried these economic policies before.
Speaker 6: They do not lead to prosperity.
Speaker 8: They lead to inequity and economic injustice, and we are
Speaker 8: not going back.
Speaker 1: This is where it's important to remember one of the
Speaker 1: central principles that drives Camarala Harris. It is not equality
Speaker 1: but equity. What equity means is that regardless of where
Speaker 1: you start, we all end in the same place. It's
Speaker 1: a fancy word for far left economic policies which have
Speaker 1: been known as socialism and a whole lot worse. America
Speaker 1: like it, love it, understand it, or just shake your
Speaker 1: head at it is a place where capitalism thrives. At times,
Speaker 1: it can be a force where too many people, too
Speaker 1: few people, have too much money. Sure, and anyone who's
Speaker 1: been there can see the poverty. But if you're trying
Speaker 1: to say don't vote for Donald Trump because we're going
Speaker 1: to go back to the economy that he was running,
Speaker 1: I can show you this many poles that will tell
Speaker 1: you people preferred that economy to the one that she
Speaker 1: and Joe Biden have been looking over. For their part,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump and JD. Vance gave a series of interviews.
Speaker 1: Jdvans did his first rally today and he also did
Speaker 1: an interview on Fox News.
Speaker 5: There's a constitutional process, the twenty fifth Amendment. If Joe
Speaker 5: Biden can't run for president, he can't serve as president,
Speaker 5: and if they want to take him down because he's
Speaker 5: mentally incapable of serving.
Speaker 4: Invoke the twenty fifth Amendment.
Speaker 5: You don't get to sort of do this in the
Speaker 5: most politically beneficial way for Democrats. If it's an actual problem,
Speaker 5: they should take care of the appropriate way.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree, but everyone has that feeling that circuit broken.
Speaker 1: Time to move on now, of course, it is absolutely
Speaker 1: reasonable to keep making the point that if he can't
Speaker 1: run for president, how can he be the president. But
Speaker 1: right now there's a lot of people who are feeling
Speaker 1: that there's a new broom that's on its way, despite
Speaker 1: the fact that those of us who watched it and
Speaker 1: paid attention to it for a long time know that
Speaker 1: it's the old room, the old room that's been rejected
Speaker 1: many times before, the proverbial lipstick on the pig that
Speaker 1: was losing the election when it was Biden. But now
Speaker 1: it's apparently going to be all Harris's way, because you know,
Speaker 1: the future is female. She's been in the room for
Speaker 1: every bad decision. She's been in the room when it
Speaker 1: comes to the border, the economy, national security, and all
Speaker 1: of the other reasons why the American people were ready
Speaker 1: to make a change. It is up to the Trump
Speaker 1: and Man's campaign to not keep going after Biden, but
Speaker 1: to understand that Harris and Biden won and the same.
Speaker 1: But more importantly, what Harris represented, What people will she
Speaker 1: have around her, What are her promises? What is her
Speaker 1: policy platform? Because if her policy platform means let's just
Speaker 1: keep doing what Joe was doing, then they can win.
Speaker 1: If her policy platform means i'll tell you later, well,
Speaker 1: then she shouldn't win. Ron de Santis one of the
Speaker 1: many Republicans coming out and starting to say too, don't
Speaker 1: forget despite the makeover, she is not a great politician.
Speaker 9: Well, look, she's vacuous, incredibly liberal, and unaccomplished, and so yes,
Speaker 9: she doesn't have dementia. But I think she's allowsy candidate.
Speaker 9: And I was surprised at how many Democrats rush to
Speaker 9: endorse her. Remember, there are conventions not for another month,
Speaker 9: and so it wouldn't surprise me if she faced plans
Speaker 9: over the next two weeks that you'll start to hear
Speaker 9: calls from those power brokers to maybe go in a
Speaker 9: different direction.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's too much, but you get the point. It's
Speaker 1: important to the Republicans don't push too hard, but have to
Speaker 1: push back. And they have to push back from today.
Speaker 1: Why because all of the media that has been so
Speaker 1: embarrassed is now all in. They're going to try to
Speaker 1: go full Obama on Harris. But even Obama knows she
Speaker 1: ain't Obama, which is why, of course he hasn't endorsed
Speaker 1: her yet. As for those polls, and that's worth noting
Speaker 1: here too. Yes, it's only been literally a day, but
Speaker 1: we have some data, and you know, this show is
Speaker 1: all about the data, and we add the opinion on
Speaker 1: top of that, but still the data is worth noting here.
Speaker 1: In a two way race, there are two poles which
Speaker 1: have come out since Harris became the Democratic choice. She's
Speaker 1: losing substantially in the Forbes pole, just in the Quinnipiac Pole.
Speaker 1: But remember it's not just two people that are in
Speaker 1: the national race. There are five significant people who are
Speaker 1: running for president, including Robert F. Kennedy and a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of others. Well, even in that, guess what happens.
Speaker 1: Trump is still winning in the state of Georgia, which
Speaker 1: is one of the states that the Democrats have to
Speaker 1: win to be able to push back on Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Guess what poll from the Atlanta Journal Constitutional So coming
Speaker 1: from the city of Atlanta, in the state of Georgia,
Speaker 1: you can see Trump is leading, and he ain't leading
Speaker 1: just it's fifty one forty six. So I get it.
Speaker 1: There's a new girl in town. And of course, before
Speaker 1: you complain about you understand the metaphor of which I
Speaker 1: am talking about. Send your complaints to the ghost. I'm
Speaker 1: sure he'll fold them on to Kevin. There is a
Speaker 1: new broom who is seeking to redefine herself. If the
Speaker 1: Republicans can define her first, while she's locking in the nomination,
Speaker 1: they will be a significant chance of beating her. If
Speaker 1: they set back and let the media mold the image,
Speaker 1: well then this fight is going to be very tight.
Speaker 1: But as I showed you before, do you want an
Speaker 1: administration in the United States that has accountability that, for example,
Speaker 1: would sack the head of the Secret Service if the
Speaker 1: pres got shot at Because the current administration that is
Speaker 1: not just Joe Biden, but is Kamala Harris. They haven't
Speaker 1: sacked her yet, and they still haven't sacked anyone from
Speaker 1: the debarcle of Afghanistan. Big debate head tonight, and at
Speaker 1: least Nielsen will join us from the United States, as
Speaker 1: wilbable to go to a quick break now and then
Speaker 1: back with Senators of wonderful renowned, our dear friend Holly
Speaker 1: Hughes and our lovely mate as well as Stephen Conroy.
Speaker 1: I think they may have something to say. We'll try
Speaker 1: to keep the American stuff to a minimum for a
Speaker 1: little while, then back to it towards the end of
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Speaker 1: dot AU. Holly Hughes is here. Of course. The sender
Speaker 1: from new said, well, she knows Newcastle oh so beautifully,
Speaker 1: oh so well. Stephen Conroy as a labor man knows
Speaker 1: that there's a union here and a number over there,
Speaker 1: and if you talk to that bloke and this other thing,
Speaker 1: and you won't have to pay for your parking, all right,
Speaker 1: love you to see you both love to see you.
Speaker 1: After the past couple of weeks. Let's talk here about
Speaker 1: what I do consider to be the number one concern
Speaker 1: in the country right now is two thirds of the wall,
Speaker 1: two thirds of the country frightened about an interest rate
Speaker 1: rise like legit frightened now now, Steven, we've talked before
Speaker 1: about whether the Reserve Bank should or shouldn't, or should
Speaker 1: or shouldn't have in the past, but let's talk about
Speaker 1: where we go from here, about the types of information
Speaker 1: the Reserve Bank will be looking at right now. We
Speaker 1: know Holly that when they had their last meeting of
Speaker 1: the three options stay up or down, they did not
Speaker 1: touch down and they needed to basically convince themselves not
Speaker 1: to go up. We've got a lot of data since
Speaker 1: that would suggest we are going to head in an
Speaker 1: up direction. And as I told you last night, it's
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty thousand people that may have to
Speaker 1: sell the house virtually straight away. Another eight hundred thousand
Speaker 1: people who go on top of the minions more who
Speaker 1: are into mortgage stress. This is the issue in Australia.
Speaker 10: Right now, absolutely, and we know since this government's come
Speaker 10: to offers everyday Australians with an average mortgage have had
Speaker 10: to find over thirty five thousand dollars a year. Now
Speaker 10: you'll hear Jim Chalmers, and I'm sure Comrade Conroy is
Speaker 10: about to give us the spiel about the Stage three
Speaker 10: tax cuts coming through to everyone and how forty bucks
Speaker 10: a fortnight's making all the difference in the world, when
Speaker 10: the reality is thirty five thousand dollars a year that
Speaker 10: they're having to make and this is after tax. They
Speaker 10: didn't get a thirty five thousand dollars Stage three tax cut.
Speaker 10: I have to find that money. That's not the kind
Speaker 10: of coins you find down the back of the couch.
Speaker 10: So adding to that, when everything else has gone up
Speaker 10: over nine percent again since this government's come to power,
Speaker 10: plus we have had five quarters of negative per capita
Speaker 10: growth five so per capita growth. We are in a
Speaker 10: recession and have been for a while.
Speaker 1: And inflation last month Stephen was four percent. Now, obviously
Speaker 1: there's three months that all get put together. The unemployment
Speaker 1: numbers are still very low. So again let's put the
Speaker 1: economic hat on here. And I want to look I
Speaker 1: legitimately want to look forward, because there's other things that
Speaker 1: I want to debate tonight, right of the data that
Speaker 1: is before the RBA now and the RBA as you
Speaker 1: have seen its decision making, what's the data that would
Speaker 1: give you confidence that they won't put those rates up?
Speaker 4: Well, I just want to repeat what Holly just said,
Speaker 4: five quarters of negative per.
Speaker 1: Capita, yeah GDP, which actually says I'm still jet lagged exactly. Why,
Speaker 1: well done by the way it does overseas. I mean,
Speaker 1: what about that for helping who knew his factional power
Speaker 1: existed where he and Nancy have a little chat in
Speaker 1: Washington and I'll make Biden shuffles away. We'll get to
Speaker 1: that in a second.
Speaker 4: So Holly's actual point there about what's happening in the
Speaker 4: real economy is that it's tanking, and the Reserve Bank
Speaker 4: are responsible for it tanking. So it would be extraordinary
Speaker 4: if the Reserve Bank ignored that's that one simple economic
Speaker 4: fact and decided that it's not tanked enough. We need
Speaker 4: to tank it some more. So the Reserve Bank.
Speaker 1: Government lots of stuff.
Speaker 10: Well, look, government's got their foot on the acceleration correct.
Speaker 4: Well, Unfortunately, the way budgets work is that there's thing
Speaker 4: called spending and there's thing called revenue. And what Jim
Speaker 4: Charms are delivered twice now is something your party couldn't
Speaker 4: do in eleven years in government.
Speaker 1: A surplus. So what that.
Speaker 6: Means, thank you, resources sector.
Speaker 4: More money is coming out, more money is coming out
Speaker 4: of the economy than going in. So it's great fun
Speaker 4: to say spending is a problem for me, but you're deliberately, mischievously, Holly,
Speaker 4: ignoring the revenue side.
Speaker 1: Is the surplus And I'll yeah, as you say. All
Speaker 1: I will say is this right, which is don't forget
Speaker 1: the Intergeneration report made by the same people who put
Speaker 1: the budget together say that we will have deficits every
Speaker 1: year for the next forty five years, the next forty
Speaker 1: So okay, great couple of this year, last year is
Speaker 1: slightly better all the rest right, But that's that's where
Speaker 1: we are. Okay, Now, Holly, let's talk about not just
Speaker 1: political responsibility with your passion in and around the ndis
Speaker 1: again a whole bunch of hearings that are taking place
Speaker 1: right now. It's the latest on trying to learn more
Speaker 1: about how to fix this.
Speaker 10: So there's a bill at the moment that Minister Shorten's
Speaker 10: put up, the first bill he's put up in over
Speaker 10: two years of government, so you know, we've been waiting
Speaker 10: a while for some reform in this space. But the
Speaker 10: bill talks about foundational supports, doesn't qualify what they are.
Speaker 10: And there's been a secret squirrel meetings with the Prime
Speaker 10: Minister and the premiers that they've allegedly committed to saying
Speaker 10: that they will provide these foundational supports. There's a sixty
Speaker 10: billion dollar black hole in the NDS without these foundational supports.
Speaker 10: So we have hearings over the next two days that
Speaker 10: were deliberately put together to get the states and the
Speaker 10: territories to come and talk to the committee that's overlooking
Speaker 10: this legislation to say what are they, what do you
Speaker 10: understand they are, what do they get to cost? What
Speaker 10: are you prepared to pay? What can you stand up?
Speaker 10: So we're talking about community health, speech therapy, and OTS
Speaker 10: and access. So there are too many people in the NDS.
Speaker 10: There's too many kids on the NDIS. The kids with
Speaker 10: permanent lifelong disabilities need to be there. The kids with
Speaker 10: global developmental delays don't, but they do need something, and
Speaker 10: that's where the states are supposed to be responsible, and
Speaker 10: the states are now hiding. Now we want to know
Speaker 10: why they're hiding. Is there something that's being held over
Speaker 10: them by the federal government to not come and speak
Speaker 10: to this committee about what these foundational support looks like.
Speaker 10: Where is this sixty billion dollars going to come from?
Speaker 10: How is this going to work?
Speaker 1: But also, we literally all know that all bar Tasmania,
Speaker 1: they're all the same political color, right, so the capacity
Speaker 1: for all of them to either be whipped in one
Speaker 1: direction or pulled in another is fairly obvious. But strength
Speaker 1: to your hand, follow Holly on all of the socials
Speaker 1: to learn more about what's going to happen in the
Speaker 1: next couple of days. But incredible stuff about what's happening there.
Speaker 1: So Stephen, let's get to the Trump and Harris of
Speaker 1: it all again, now least in a couple of minutes time.
Speaker 1: So we could talk for hours about the past couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, but let's talk about where to from here.
Speaker 1: It will be Harris, it will be Harris versus Trump.
Speaker 1: There is a resetting in the race. She starts from behind,
Speaker 1: She's had a massive surge of money, and the media
Speaker 1: will now try to turn her into an Obama like
Speaker 1: historic figure. That said, do you think that the issues
Speaker 1: that still have been fundamental to where the Democrats were
Speaker 1: that they needed to get rid of Joe Biden. And
Speaker 1: I'm talking about immigration, cost of living, you name it,
Speaker 1: that any of those substantially change or is the whole
Speaker 1: point of the Harris candidacy to change the subject to
Speaker 1: the ones that are more popular for the Democrats.
Speaker 4: Look, Paul, as you know as your spy in America.
Speaker 1: I'm refusing to hand it over to the committee. I
Speaker 1: will not hand this over to the committee.
Speaker 4: Hally Halle subpoena vatman.
Speaker 1: Spy on the ground. That's the photo signal. I don't
Speaker 1: explained to you about signal. So it's so.
Speaker 4: Importantly that the overwhelming problem that Biden has or had,
Speaker 4: was that there was an absolute fixed mindset across seventy
Speaker 4: percent plus of Americans that he was too old to
Speaker 4: do the job. Certainly going forward, I'm not wasting my
Speaker 4: time with the debate about the next four or five months,
Speaker 4: but overwhelming, and it it blocked voters in the US
Speaker 4: from considering almost any other policy or anything else he
Speaker 4: wanted to say. So the the Obama's and the Clintons
Speaker 4: and all the serious leadership in the Democrats all formed
Speaker 4: the view that following the disastrous demonstration at the at
Speaker 4: the debate, that he needed to pull up stumps, so
Speaker 4: they were ramping up the pressure the issues around, for
Speaker 4: instance immigration. Now I'm going to be cruel to one
Speaker 4: of your you're the fanboy for Trump. But Trump personally
Speaker 4: intervened in a deal that had been put together by
Speaker 4: the Republicans to deal with the border crisis. And it
Speaker 4: was agreed and it was a rough and tough package.
Speaker 4: Many Democrats hated it, but Biden was pushing it through
Speaker 4: when he was endorsing it, and Trump picks up the
Speaker 4: phone says, don't you dare agree to this because it
Speaker 4: looked like a win for Biden on the borders. So
Speaker 4: Kamala would have actually had a win, but Trump made
Speaker 4: sure Republicans didn't vote for it. Now that is the
Speaker 4: height of cynicism. He wanted the political crisis on the
Speaker 4: border to keep going for his own.
Speaker 1: Changing out a citty president because it can't win. Well,
Speaker 1: I think I'm talking about it a long time.
Speaker 4: As I've said, the Democrats had formed the view that
Speaker 4: they had about a twenty percent chance of winning with Biden.
Speaker 1: So do you think that it is We're back to
Speaker 1: fifty fifth there or do you think I mean again
Speaker 1: with the full sort of Obama treatment, Right, you know
Speaker 1: what's going to happen, the full Obama treatment in She'll
Speaker 1: be a Woman of the years? Is the best of
Speaker 1: Hillary case?
Speaker 4: You got the best case? Yeah, the best case that
Speaker 4: the Democrats. And I was talking to the people who
Speaker 4: were behind the scenes convincing Democrats to come out against Bide,
Speaker 4: and they were saying, look, Kamala, it's probably forty five
Speaker 4: percent charts, but we've got a roll of the dice
Speaker 4: where we've removed the single biggest obstacle to people voting
Speaker 4: Democrats and voting against Trump, which is the Biden issue.
Speaker 4: But they also make the point that Harris has got
Speaker 4: to be laser focused on Middle America issues, and more importantly,
Speaker 4: she's got to keep the campaign focused on Trump now
Speaker 4: that Biden's out of the way. Her job is to
Speaker 4: remind Americans about, let's just be polite the flaws of
Speaker 4: Donald Trump. Sure, so Trump needs to be the main
Speaker 4: It needs to be a referendum on Trump. It was
Speaker 4: going to be a refrimendum on Biden and his age.
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris has got to make it a debate and
Speaker 4: a referendum on Trump.
Speaker 1: Good, that's the.
Speaker 4: Only hope they've got. She's got to not spend the time.
Speaker 4: I mean, I did watch yesterday. You know, Look, you're
Speaker 4: entitled to be excited about the prospect. But it's okay.
Speaker 4: I've stopped talking about you and how wonderful you and
Speaker 4: Joe are, and let's get onto the issues that Middle
Speaker 4: America wants to talk about. Because if she doesn't, if
Speaker 4: she goes woke, if she wants to talk about all
Speaker 4: those things, she's in trouble. I like the way Andrew
Speaker 4: Bolt earlier tonight described it, Paul, He called her a
Speaker 4: chameleon and warn the Republicans do not underestimate it.
Speaker 1: She's a political chameleon.
Speaker 4: She's morphed her way through all her different phases of
Speaker 4: a political career.
Speaker 1: Hard on crime, soft on crime. She'll be whatever she
Speaker 1: needs to do.
Speaker 4: And that's the fifty you know, the forty five percent
Speaker 4: roll of the dice the Democrats have engaged in.
Speaker 1: And really importantly, because I know and I'm bleeding into
Speaker 1: a subject we'll have a chat with analyst about in
Speaker 1: a second year. But also, Holly, the thing that that
Speaker 1: fundamentally changes as well is that when she was trying
Speaker 1: to win the president at the nomination in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: she had her people, and she's doing it. She's now
Speaker 1: has the complete eighteam, including potentially the people who helped
Speaker 1: Obama and the people who were there for Hillary. So
Speaker 1: she gets the best of people around her. We know that,
Speaker 1: you know there are the issues, but I'll just ask
Speaker 1: you this quickly, quickly, because I've got thirty seconds. Right,
Speaker 1: do you want to hear about the gender angle of
Speaker 1: this the whole way through that basically women unite against
Speaker 1: Orange man bad.
Speaker 10: Well, I mean it was that Hillary versus and that
Speaker 10: went really well. So I'm looking forward to the Vogue
Speaker 10: cover that I'm sure's next month, and I just don't
Speaker 10: think serious women voters will look at that that it's
Speaker 10: going to address their cost of living pressures and how
Speaker 10: they put food on the table for their family.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much. I do appreciate that. But
Speaker 1: thank you. It's lovely to be back. I'm about to
Speaker 1: go and throw my phone in a wood chopper. All right,
Speaker 1: quick break back with more, so you soon, love you, Stephen,
Speaker 1: love your Holly with analyse a bit more about what's
Speaker 1: happening in the States, so because she's there on the
Speaker 1: ground knowing a lot, and as the sun comes up
Speaker 1: there's sorts of news coming out of there as well.
Speaker 1: One in a sect. Oh, I love Analyse Nielsen. She's
Speaker 1: fantastic and she does a great job for us in Washington.
Speaker 1: She joins us right now from that beautiful part of
Speaker 1: the world. How are your rockstar.
Speaker 7: Good?
Speaker 11: It's been pretty hot this time of year, But I
Speaker 11: think the real challenge is trying to keep up with
Speaker 11: all this breaking news.
Speaker 7: This last week has been just absolutely nuts.
Speaker 1: Isn't an amazing It's like, oh so remember the bit
Speaker 1: when Trump would It's like, it's incredible right on all
Speaker 1: of these other transitions. But back to that Trump shooting stuff.
Speaker 1: The Secret Service boss should be sacked. I don't care
Speaker 1: whether she wants to resign or not. She should be sacked.
Speaker 1: It's binary. Somebody was able to get a shot off,
Speaker 1: and somebody got a shot that hit a former president.
Speaker 1: Game over, You're not up to it anymore. Next.
Speaker 7: I mean, I.
Speaker 11: Don't think I've ever seen AOC and Nancy Mace agree
Speaker 11: on anything. And the fact that they were just all
Speaker 11: across the board saying come on, this was such a
Speaker 11: huge failure. Also the fact she just didn't have any
Speaker 11: answers when she was at the hearing yesterday. You know,
Speaker 11: you're walking into that forum, you know how it's going
Speaker 11: to go. The point of it is to get this
Speaker 11: information out for the record.
Speaker 7: Do it. That's your job as well.
Speaker 11: And then I've seen comment arry saying, oh, the person
Speaker 11: who is headed the Secret Service didn't get.
Speaker 7: Sacked after JFK was shot.
Speaker 11: That was a completely different set of circumstances also should
Speaker 11: not have happened. But this one was just so blatant.
Speaker 11: You had a roof top within eyesight of Trump and
Speaker 11: they hadn't secured it. They get multiple notifications that there's
Speaker 11: someone on it and they don't act, so they don't
Speaker 11: have the resources there. And the worst part is it's
Speaker 11: all the agents on the ground. You've been copying this
Speaker 11: when really it was a failure of organization from the top.
Speaker 11: And you've got people criticizing these agents who throw themselves
Speaker 11: in the path of a bullet.
Speaker 7: They're as brave as they get.
Speaker 1: So let's get to the commala of it, all right.
Speaker 1: I mean, oh, there's an open process and anyone can
Speaker 1: apply a surprise surprise bang, all fixed, all done the
Speaker 1: weirdness of the Joe Biden calling in pal let it go.
Speaker 1: You decided to let it go, so you ain't the
Speaker 1: star anymore. So you just randomly ringing into press conferences.
Speaker 1: Feel free to get in front of a camera. All right,
Speaker 1: but you've obviously noticed, you know, a social media feeds
Speaker 1: personal life, all the rest of it. Right, finally there's
Speaker 1: a different option. We we kept being told seventy percent of
Speaker 1: people in a different option. There's now finally a different option.
Speaker 1: I think it's a deeply imperfect one. But as somebody
Speaker 1: who knows how the debate works, right, do you think
Speaker 1: that we have had this thing where basically the best
Speaker 1: of Hillary and the best of Obama have been put
Speaker 1: together in this one person, And don't you dare stand
Speaker 1: in the way of history. Or she's the woman who
Speaker 1: can't hold on to much staff and doesn't seem to
Speaker 1: do an amazing job. What's your sense of where we're headed?
Speaker 11: Look, my sense of having covered the Iowa caucuses in
Speaker 11: twenty twenty, if we did have a properly open primary season,
Speaker 11: if there really was a chance to build momentum and
Speaker 11: go out to the people. Kamala Harris wouldn't have survived.
Speaker 11: She didn't survive in twenty twenty. She doesn't know how
Speaker 11: to do retail politics, and she would have had a
Speaker 11: lot more scrutiny of her past and her performance as VP.
Speaker 11: But the one thing we need to look at here
Speaker 11: is when you look at all these polls, and I
Speaker 11: know people tell me, oh, I don't believe Poles anymore.
Speaker 7: The polls are wrong.
Speaker 11: The polls have updated, they've changed, They're a lot more
Speaker 11: comprehensive in the US, especially where you get an amalgamation
Speaker 11: of polls. They do show that the one thing all
Speaker 11: Americans agreed on is they wanted a fresh face. About
Speaker 11: eighty percent of voters in Paul said that they wanted
Speaker 11: someone new, and that's when they were being presented a
Speaker 11: Biden Trump matchup.
Speaker 7: So now she's only got a few months.
Speaker 11: The media is already coming in kind of fawning over
Speaker 11: her and saying that she's just this revolutionary, potential first
Speaker 11: female president and she's going to have very little time.
Speaker 11: We could potentially see Biden stepping down in all this.
Speaker 11: The fact that he didn't go on camera to make
Speaker 11: this announcement and the COVID excuse, I mean Steve Riketty,
Speaker 11: his personal advisor, was apparently with him when he decided this,
Speaker 11: So you can have advisors with you, but you can't
Speaker 11: have a cameraman. It's just there is something else going
Speaker 11: on that they're not telling us, And all we know
Speaker 11: is that they've lied to us up until this point.
Speaker 11: They kept telling us he was great. They kept telling
Speaker 11: us cheap fakes, and that was clearly just not.
Speaker 1: True, one hundred percent. Right. We all saw going down
Speaker 1: the stairs that was not COVID. Right, get in front
Speaker 1: of a camera. But obviously he doesn't want the moment
Speaker 1: in history in the grab to live forever. Big boy
Speaker 1: pants pal, all right, we could talk all night. P
Speaker 1: will do so via text in the meantime. The TV
Speaker 1: bits over. Thank you, Darlan, We'll see you very soon.
Speaker 1: The lovely Adelease Nilson joining us from the United States,
Speaker 1: will talk longer into the future with her between now
Speaker 1: and November. The Late Debate is next. Tada