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Speaker 1: Is it fitsy and with her with Kate Wiki Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everyone to a very special episode of Educating. If

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Speaker 2: I don't sound like Kate Richie, that's because I'm not yes.

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Speaker 3: Here with you. I've got Lizzie as well. We do

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Speaker 3: have Kate with us. I am here at present. Excellent,

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Speaker 3: it will mark you off the roll.

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Speaker 2: No, we just wanted to do a quick little special

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Speaker 2: Educate actually requested by someone online off the back Kate. Yesterday,

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Speaker 2: of course we had the wonderful Kate Winslet on the

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Speaker 2: show and there was such a special moment that happened

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Speaker 2: sort of just after we've finished the formal interview where

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Speaker 2: you shared a few little tears with her and a

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Speaker 2: really really nice hug. Your daughter May was here as well.

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Speaker 2: She kind of came in into.

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Speaker 3: It as well.

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Speaker 2: And we just wanted to unpack it a little bit

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Speaker 2: because we saw the wonderful video on socials. But we

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Speaker 2: know that leading up to it, Kate Winslet is a

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Speaker 2: hero of yours. You would say, what was it like

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Speaker 2: knowing that we were going to get.

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Speaker 3: Her on the show.

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Speaker 4: Well, I was really nervous. It's so funny we're doing

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Speaker 4: this because I have to say after we Since we

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Speaker 4: have had Kate in the studio, I think it's taken

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Speaker 4: everybody a little bit of time to almost do a

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Speaker 4: little debrief in their head about it, because they were

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Speaker 4: you know, what it's like in the studio can be

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Speaker 4: a bit manic, and we have guests in and out,

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Speaker 4: and no disrespect to any of the other guests we have,

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Speaker 4: but Kate Winslet was pretty exciting, and I don't think

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Speaker 4: it was until the day that we all quite realized that, Wow,

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Speaker 4: she's actually she's going to.

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Speaker 3: Be in here with us physically in here. She did

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Speaker 3: a lot of press.

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Speaker 4: But I know she did.

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Speaker 3: We were the only show of this kind of variety

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Speaker 3: that she'd come in to speak.

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Speaker 1: With, and our interview is the best FM show, and

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Speaker 1: I know that this is.

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Speaker 3: Sort of a little look behind the curtain.

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Speaker 2: But she had come from two GB so I think

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Speaker 2: ben Fordham and those sort of AM shows around the country,

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Speaker 2: and when she came up here she was sort of

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Speaker 2: rushed in because.

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Speaker 3: They were on a very tight time frame.

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Speaker 2: I think when she came through the door, she might

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Speaker 2: have been a little bit overwhelmed because we were all

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Speaker 2: so excited to see her. Yeah, only imagine the energy

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Speaker 2: level on Fitzy. We' bring Kate Richie. He's just a

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Speaker 2: touch higher than maybe ben fordhen and the rest of them.

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Speaker 1: Remember she said when she came in, she said, oh,

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Speaker 1: I already can tell that. You know, you guys going

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Speaker 1: to be really good.

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Speaker 3: She was like, you wrote a bad care and watch.

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Speaker 5: But she was you remind me of she said, you

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Speaker 5: remind me of Chris Evans in the UK, who I've

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Speaker 5: not heard.

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Speaker 1: But is a what more fun I googled him and

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Speaker 1: he looks he looks funny.

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Speaker 5: He's got like.

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Speaker 4: Redheaded ginger guy who used to be I got the

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Speaker 4: right guy.

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Speaker 3: He needs to be married to Billy Piper.

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Speaker 5: Do you get told I look like her all the time?

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Speaker 4: You know what?

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Speaker 3: I can see the similarity.

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Speaker 4: But you're about, yeah you honey to the bee, you

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Speaker 4: you for me or something like that. I don't know

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Speaker 4: who she is, but she's she's in She was in

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Speaker 4: Doctor Who for a long time, and she was in

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Speaker 4: a fan We might have watched Fantastic Show recently, which

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Speaker 4: involved the investigation around Prince Andrew.

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Speaker 3: That was she played the journo. Okay, I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: think who else was in it.

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Speaker 1: I get told it's the eyebrows and the like the

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Speaker 1: dark eyebrows and the blonde yeah, yeah, or.

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Speaker 4: Whatever it is. It's absolutely a compliment. And I think

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Speaker 4: it was a compliment when it came from Kate. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 4: I know we're talking about the experience that maybe I

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Speaker 4: the boats and the interview itself, and if you haven't

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Speaker 4: heard it, please check it out on the podcast.

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Speaker 3: But it wasn't just It wasn't just me.

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Speaker 4: I think that when she came here in the studio,

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Speaker 4: and I'm sure we've got the footage floating around everyone.

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Speaker 4: So Tommy here, you're here, Lizzie Jess.

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Speaker 3: Of the person, do you think I think he were?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're good under pressure people.

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Speaker 4: Are organized for a guest like that. Yeah, but it did.

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Speaker 4: There was a really nervous energy. Everyone wanted to try

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Speaker 4: and do something to help. In fact, she was chewing.

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Speaker 3: Gum, Whipper offered.

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Speaker 4: She went to spit it out, of course, because she

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Speaker 4: was about to speak with us, and Whipper offered to

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Speaker 4: take it and put it in the bin, a bit

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Speaker 4: like he will do with my tea bag sometimes and

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Speaker 4: I think hand, I think Kate thought maybe he was

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Speaker 4: going to steal her DNA or something, and so.

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Speaker 2: She put Tom picked up the bin as well, so

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Speaker 4: Down, yeah she really want the bin, and or I

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Speaker 4: was just you know, I was just looking.

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Speaker 5: But how does it feel?

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Speaker 1: Because you know, I know we started this podcast talking

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Speaker 1: about Taylor Swift, right, yes, if we got to meet Taylor,

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Speaker 1: and can't you know, get to tell her, but get

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Speaker 1: to tell her that we've always wanted to say, Like

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Speaker 1: how did that feel to say what you've always wanted

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Speaker 1: to say to someone that is such a hero to you,

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Speaker 1: like Kate Winslet, like how did you feel in the

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Speaker 1: moment the days after, which is obviously just today, how

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Speaker 1: do you feel?

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Speaker 4: Look, I don't really like the word hero, but I

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Speaker 4: do think that she's such an incredible role model and

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Speaker 4: I think that firstly, I didn't want to muck it up.

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Speaker 4: I know that when we have big stars, like we

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Speaker 4: have very minimal time, and we of course have to

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Speaker 4: cover the film because she has a beautiful new film lead,

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Speaker 4: and of course we want to know about that. But like, okay,

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Speaker 4: once we've done the film, What is it like?

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Speaker 3: What are other people? What other people want to know?

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Speaker 3: Do I just want to know?

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Speaker 4: Or because you are speaking on behalf of the listeners,

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Speaker 4: you know, it has to be interesting to everyone. It's

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Speaker 4: not a one on one. And she's just done so

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Speaker 4: many great things and so many great films. I think

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Speaker 4: filmmaking that she does that is that is wonderful.

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Speaker 3: So I felt I was just nervous.

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Speaker 4: I was nervous and I let's see, I can't even

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Speaker 3: Just didn't want to. I just didn't want to mark

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Speaker 5: Well, you did it, I think as well.

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Speaker 3: You were that topic.

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Speaker 2: And I know that question in particular about body image

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Speaker 2: and the way that it's talked about in the media

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Speaker 3: You to ask.

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Speaker 2: So I think like, obviously that was going to you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I to ask, and I think too, I

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Speaker 4: few tears, but I didn't want it to be clouded

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Speaker 3: I just feel I think what it proves.

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Speaker 4: And I think someone even said on my socials last night,

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Speaker 4: when you have a physical reaction so quickly about something

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Speaker 4: that it's really close to the surface. And I think

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Speaker 4: think what I wanted to say to her was hopefully

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Speaker 4: what a lot of other people would have said given

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Speaker 4: my goodness, thank you so much for saying that, because

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Speaker 4: that's exactly what I would have said. Because I do

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Speaker 4: think that Kate, and I think she knows that. I

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Speaker 4: these things, so I'm just coming at it from that.

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Speaker 3: Point of view.

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Speaker 4: But she I think Kate does know the work she's done.

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Speaker 4: And I actually listened to another podcast yesterday because I've

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Speaker 4: talking about failures that she may have had, and one

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Speaker 3: She was a teen girl.

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Speaker 3: She's not now I'm getting if you're listening Kate.

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Speaker 4: But so she feels as though she wish she'd have

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Speaker 3: She didn't have the tools back then.

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Speaker 4: I think we're all continuing to learn, and I think

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Speaker 3: To say is that what she says is what.

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Speaker 4: I think we all feel, but we don't have the

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Speaker 4: you're about boundaries.

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Speaker 1: You're that person for a lot of people too, as

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Speaker 1: we've seen online, like so many people from that video.

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Speaker 1: You're that person for so many people too, that you

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Speaker 1: bring a voice to all that stuff for so many women.

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Speaker 5: Like how beautiful that you.

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Speaker 1: Both took the two Kates could bring that moment to

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Speaker 5: Both of you. You know, I feel emotion about it.

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Speaker 5: It was so beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for saying that.

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Speaker 1: And she was so when we were off air, you know,

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Speaker 4: because we do tell silly jokes, and we do stupid

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Speaker 4: things and we talk about rubbish. But how nice to

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Speaker 4: feel as though sometimes we do things that really make

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Speaker 4: a difference. And I hope that our chat kind of continues,

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Speaker 4: like it sits with you, because you're not on your

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Speaker 4: own if you're feeling all of these things. And like, listen,

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Speaker 4: keep listening to Kate and I don't mean me.

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Speaker 3: Love it. Yeah, we'll make sure.

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Speaker 5: If you did miss the tail, make sure you check

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Speaker 5: out the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Thanks guys, it's so nice to revisit.

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Speaker 4: Sits In Whippa with Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast

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Speaker 4: a great shows like this.

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Speaker 3: Download the Nova player, find the app store or Google

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Speaker 3: playing the over player