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Speaker 2: Welcome to the She Rises Podcast. I'm Ashy and I'm Tiana.
Speaker 2: This podcast is.
Speaker 3: About female empowerment and encouraging you to be your biggest, boldest,
Speaker 3: and most authentic version of yourself.
Speaker 2: We'd help you shed the shame, grow to a new level.
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Speaker 3: Hello everybody, welcome back to another episode of She Rises
Speaker 3: with your favorites as She and Tiana.
Speaker 2: And we're a bit scared today. So you would have remembered,
Speaker 2: or maybe you didn't if you didn't listen to it.
Speaker 2: When Tiana first came on board, our producer came and
Speaker 2: asked her a couple of questions and they were quite intense.
Speaker 2: She does not hold back.
Speaker 3: She asks the harder hitting questions and the things that
Speaker 3: you would absolutely want to know about it personal.
Speaker 2: All the juicy, nosy questions. This is what we call
Speaker 2: our mystory episodes. So Katie, take it away, hate it away.
Speaker 1: I like to ask the questions that I think everybody
Speaker 1: wants to know the answers to, but that no one
Speaker 1: would actually ask you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like no one's willing to ask.
Speaker 1: All right, question number one, what's the easiest cash you've
Speaker 1: ever made?
Speaker 2: Influence work for sure, Although when I first launched anything,
Speaker 2: the first launch is always the biggest. So when I
Speaker 2: first launched active where it was over a million dollars
Speaker 2: and twenty four hours when I first launched my app,
Speaker 2: it was the same thing. But I feel influencer work
Speaker 2: is the easiest work that you could do. Like when
Speaker 2: influencers say they've got a hard job, I'm like, now
Speaker 2: you don't, Like, yes, it takes you've got to be
Speaker 2: creative and you've got to be on Like, for sure,
Speaker 2: it still takes brain power, but it's very easy to
Speaker 2: promote a product that you genuinely loved. Yeah, so I'd
Speaker 2: say that would be pretty easy. Okay, cool, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I would say for me when I invested into the
Speaker 3: stock market, so like I wasn't actually doing anything for it,
Speaker 3: Like obviously you have to do research and what you're
Speaker 3: going to invest in to make sure that it's going
Speaker 3: to be something worth investing in. But all I was
Speaker 3: doing was adding money to it every week. Like I
Speaker 3: did that for like a year straight and then I
Speaker 3: made like half a million dollars in less than eight
Speaker 3: months or six months while all like that just from
Speaker 3: picking the stock, and I think I didn't have to
Speaker 3: like work for that.
Speaker 2: It felt like really easy money, girl math free. Honestly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like I invested twenty k and got
Speaker 3: back five hundred thousands. Yeah that is you know, so
Speaker 3: I would say that's the easiest money.
Speaker 1: What about when it dropped slightly, did you ever get
Speaker 1: nervous and go, oh, I need to pull out?
Speaker 2: Yes, that definitely comes up one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: But I think because even my family are very much
Speaker 3: into it, and they're like, you buy, hold, never sell.
Speaker 3: So with that mentality of like, well, even if it
Speaker 3: dips and the cycles happen, which happens every four years,
Speaker 3: there's always like a bear market, which is where everything
Speaker 3: drops and everyone freaks out, sells the houses, if you
Speaker 3: can hold through that time, you'll naturally get that reoccurring
Speaker 3: like up again. So if you can just hold strong,
Speaker 3: then like you always continuously make money as long as
Speaker 3: you don't sell out.
Speaker 2: That's what they say. Yeah, so interesting, isn't a good
Speaker 2: fun question?
Speaker 1: Number two? Do you find each other sexually attractive?
Speaker 2: One hundred percent of you seen it? Oh my god,
Speaker 2: so funny. Yeah, definitely, I think it's beautiful. I said
Speaker 2: at stable, she's so attractive, she's so beautiful when I
Speaker 2: first met her, and then saying, oh my god, I
Speaker 2: met this girl today, she's so hot. So yeah, for
Speaker 2: sure people think of lesbians.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll do yeah, went on, Yeah, I think actually
Speaker 3: is so beautiful. I'm like, I literally say to her
Speaker 3: all the time, I'm like, if only you could see
Speaker 3: yourself the way that I see you, mate, Like, oh.
Speaker 2: And I say it about when like her meeting someone,
Speaker 2: I'm like, there is going to be men lining about
Speaker 2: the door. If I was a guy, I'd be jumping
Speaker 2: on it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, even the questions we both love men, we
Speaker 3: do we do so funny.
Speaker 2: We appreciate women and their beauty. Yeah. When we speak
Speaker 2: about actually being with women, it's like, yeah, probably not for.
Speaker 3: Us, Yeah oh really Yeah, Yeah, it's something we'd like
Speaker 3: openly like talk about, like, oh, would you ever, I'm
Speaker 3: like probably not.
Speaker 2: Like I don't think I could see myself. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: could never date a woman. Talking about it and thinking
Speaker 2: about it, I'm like that's hot, but actually doing it,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I have the balls to do it.
Speaker 2: Like even even the other what what I got invited?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: You did?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the other week, I indirectly got invited into
Speaker 3: a relationship. If I was into that, this was something
Speaker 3: I see myself doing. You know everything I was saying
Speaker 3: to Ash, I'm like, Oh, if I was like genuinely
Speaker 3: into it, maybe i'd probably question and attracted to both
Speaker 3: of them. Attracted to both. Yeah, But just for me
Speaker 3: when we talk about it, I'm like, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 3: can talk about it, but doing it is a completely
Speaker 3: different ball game. I'm like, I don't think i'd have
Speaker 3: the balls to be able to do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then connection for me with a woman like I
Speaker 2: feel like I would need to be very emotionally connected
Speaker 2: with them to be that attracted to them, Like I
Speaker 2: find the energy connection was what I find attractive. Of course,
Speaker 2: when any woman walks past and it look beautiful, But
Speaker 2: I think to do something like that, I would need
Speaker 2: to have a connection.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't just do something like that. I say
Speaker 3: this too all the time. I'm like, I'm no better
Speaker 3: than a man. When I see a girl at the
Speaker 3: gym with a good bum, I'm like, she worked hard
Speaker 3: for that, she got a good bump.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But then I'm.
Speaker 3: Also like love men with big builds and who are
Speaker 3: muscly and like that's a mummy energy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What about if it was a really hot couple and
Speaker 1: they were.
Speaker 2: Both really good looking and you're single? I don't know,
Speaker 2: see that. I am like, Oh, I don't know, Maybe.
Speaker 1: Just try it so there's no regrets.
Speaker 3: I would probably be curious about it for sure, But
Speaker 3: whether I would actually go through with it or not,
Speaker 3: I don't know because I have enough until now, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, And I've had conversations about it,
Speaker 3: thought about it being like oh cool, I wonder what
Speaker 3: that would be like, but still have never acted on it.
Speaker 3: I think thinking about it and doing a completely different things.
Speaker 3: And also, like like what you were saying, it's not
Speaker 3: just about how they physically look, it's about like their connection.
Speaker 2: Are they safe?
Speaker 3: Like all the things that I would look for in
Speaker 3: a man I think would be applied the same if
Speaker 3: it were multiple people.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, yeah, but this couple wasn't it for you? No,
Speaker 2: it's a hard No, it's not for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what about you, Katie?
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. Jay would love to hear about it,
Speaker 2: kind of be like I'm up for anything.
Speaker 1: What have you said to a troll? This is probably
Speaker 1: more fashy. What have you said to a troll that
Speaker 1: you probably shouldn't have?
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good question.
Speaker 1: Mmm.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's anything directly that I've said,
Speaker 2: but I think I've just been a bit spicy back,
Speaker 2: like maybe just you know, you to take good look
Speaker 2: in the mirror, or I've been a bit passive, aggressive
Speaker 2: or sarcastic back to them. I don't think there's anything
Speaker 2: that really bad, Like I get told with my head
Speaker 2: in a blender, I get told to go walk in
Speaker 2: front of a bus, I get told go jump off
Speaker 2: a bridge. Never anything like that. It's more just like, okay,
Speaker 2: the other day someone wrote a shit review. I didn't
Speaker 2: even say anything, actually, but I said to Tiana, like
Speaker 2: I'd love to say to them, like you're complaining about
Speaker 2: listening to me for the last fifteen years, yet you're
Speaker 2: still here fucking listening. Yeah, Like go get a live,
Speaker 2: go for a hobby. Why am I your hobby? Stuff
Speaker 2: like that I think I've said over the years, like
Speaker 2: why are you here? Surely you have something better to
Speaker 2: do on your Sunday morning. See that there's a little
Speaker 2: bit of attitude in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just like, you're not putting up for
Speaker 3: the bullshit of coming online, coming onto your page where
Speaker 3: they don't have to be.
Speaker 2: But I should just block and delete. But sometimes I'm
Speaker 2: spicy and I'll just be like, well, what are you
Speaker 2: doing here? Like, surely you have a busy life, don't
Speaker 2: you have kids to go be with instead of being
Speaker 2: on my page.
Speaker 3: You also dealt with it for fifteen years. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: I could imagine that would push your buttons.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's not often, but every now and again I'll
Speaker 2: add a little spicy. This definitely comes down and just
Speaker 2: like no, fuck you and come on my page and
Speaker 2: disrespect me like that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Does it ever continue into an argument back home?
Speaker 2: No, don't allow it to because I'm just very protective
Speaker 2: of my energy and I'm like, you don't deserve to
Speaker 2: be my page if that's what you're going to do.
Speaker 2: And most of the time I just block them, delete them.
Speaker 2: You can see when they're being a.
Speaker 3: Trolled, Yeah, when you're looking for a fight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But over the years and my fifteen years have
Speaker 2: I been back for sure, but never anything to the
Speaker 2: extent that I look back, I'm like, holy shit, why
Speaker 2: did I say that, you know.
Speaker 1: What would you like to say to one of Ashley's
Speaker 1: trolls when they tell her to put her head in
Speaker 1: a blender?
Speaker 3: Tatiana initially wanted to be like, get fucked. That sounds
Speaker 3: so bad, but like that was my initial just response
Speaker 3: thing because I'm so protective of her, but also like
Speaker 3: what are you doing? Just honestly, like what are you doing?
Speaker 3: Like I genuinely hope that one day you find something
Speaker 3: that lights you up enough in life that you aren't
Speaker 3: here sitting at your home on a computer putting down
Speaker 3: someone who is doing everything that she can to create
Speaker 3: a fucking really good life for herself, considering where she
Speaker 3: came from, that she actually had the balls big enough
Speaker 3: to go out and get where she fucking it in life.
Speaker 3: Like the fact that you're sitting there doing that to
Speaker 3: her just shows that maybe you wish that you could
Speaker 3: have done that in your life and you haven't yet
Speaker 3: done that, and she highlights that for you, So it's
Speaker 3: something to look at.
Speaker 2: I would love to just have a face to face conversation.
Speaker 2: I feel like within five minutes of them actually getting
Speaker 2: to know who I am and just talking to me,
Speaker 2: their assumptions about me would dissolve, I really do. I'd
Speaker 2: love to ask them and let them get out what
Speaker 2: they want to say and then talk about it. They
Speaker 2: realize a lot about themselves and a lot about the
Speaker 2: maybe noise that they've collectively heard or read or felt
Speaker 2: or assumed. I think it would disolve very quickly. They'd
Speaker 2: almost be disappointed, like, oh, yeah, she's nice. I wasn't
Speaker 2: expecting there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes as well, that's hard for people to look
Speaker 3: at because then they have to admit that they're at fault.
Speaker 2: Yeah. People don't like doing that, but you still do this.
Speaker 2: You still did that. Also, love just talking about and
Speaker 2: teaching about change. They hold onto things that I might
Speaker 2: have said or done fifteen years I'm like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: I was to go back and look at things that
Speaker 2: you've done with fifteen years ago. You're a be a
Speaker 2: completely different person now. Like allow people to evolve, grow
Speaker 2: and change, Like we all have to forgive ourselves for
Speaker 2: the mistakes that we made. We have to figure other
Speaker 2: people as well. You just know that's a part of
Speaker 2: their journey.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, but no one will ever meet up with me.
Speaker 2: I've tried over the years.
Speaker 1: Because they don't want to be proven wrong, or it's.
Speaker 2: Embarrassing to be a troll. They know it is, because
Speaker 2: then they have to own it. Yeah, own it. That's
Speaker 2: not cool to be known as a troll. Why do
Speaker 2: they have no photos on their profile because they're embarrassed.
Speaker 2: They don't want to show you that they are.
Speaker 3: People get uncomfortable with the face to face. People only
Speaker 3: comfortable because it's behind a screen and they died so
Speaker 3: that they can say the most unfiltered thing because there's
Speaker 3: no repercussions, or they believe that there's no consequence or
Speaker 3: repercussion for what they're choosing to do. But if they
Speaker 3: had every single person that they respected, loved, valued, cared about,
Speaker 3: or were inspired by sitting there watching them while they're
Speaker 3: trolling somebody who's doing good, they would be so ashamed.
Speaker 2: And it's not to make you feel shame or judgment if.
Speaker 3: This is something that you're doing, but it's just recognizing, like,
Speaker 3: would you actually be proud of the choices that you're
Speaker 3: making if you were fully aware of how that might
Speaker 3: impact you in your life?
Speaker 2: You wouldn't.
Speaker 1: It's like leaving a Google review, like you're happy to
Speaker 1: leave a Google review telling a restaurant that their meal
Speaker 1: was shit, but you didn't say it at the time
Speaker 1: when you were there.
Speaker 2: Yes, wrong, right, it was a restaurant, and Polly appreciate
Speaker 2: the feedback. If you're like, hey, my stake was really undercooked,
Speaker 2: or this felt raw, or this had hair in it,
Speaker 2: you'd rather that you get told face to face and
Speaker 2: be able to make the improvements. Offer a free meal
Speaker 2: or discount for next time they come.
Speaker 3: But there's a way to do it, is like what
Speaker 3: you were just saying when you were sharing that.
Speaker 2: I was like, there's a way to do it. It's
Speaker 2: like anything in life.
Speaker 3: Communicators and not expecting that other people can't handle your
Speaker 3: honest feedback.
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, one hundred percent. There is always a
Speaker 2: way to communicate. It can be done kindly and effectively.
Speaker 3: And then I'm over here like, fuck off.
Speaker 2: You don't actually do that though, No, I don't. You
Speaker 2: get to clelie and you can feel angry in the moment. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, that's normal.
Speaker 1: Next question, is there an influencer that you wish you
Speaker 1: were friends with.
Speaker 2: The first person that comes to mind is Leila Harmosey. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you love her? Do you love her?
Speaker 3: I would love to be a fly on the wall
Speaker 3: her perspective, her mindset, the way that she does business.
Speaker 3: She's got like a billion dollar empire and come from nothing,
Speaker 3: no money, you know, had to basically fend for herself
Speaker 3: and had a really hard upbringing to where she is now.
Speaker 2: I just find it really inspiring, and.
Speaker 3: I just I have a lot of respect for her
Speaker 3: and what I see her do and the way she
Speaker 3: navigates not only business, but emotions, relationships. There are a
Speaker 3: lot of beautiful things that I see her do, and
Speaker 3: she's just got this like she emulates a lot of strength.
Speaker 3: If I could, I would love to have a conversation
Speaker 3: with her and yeah, be a fly on the wall.
Speaker 2: I think that was really cool. I've always really liked Witnessments.
Speaker 2: She's a US influencer. She has a help on venis app,
Speaker 2: and she told her story of her upbringing and she
Speaker 2: has really bad psoriasis, and she's gone through depression and
Speaker 2: the online world, and I think maybe I find relatability
Speaker 2: in her story as well, going through a lot of
Speaker 2: grief at the moment, she's lost someone to cancer, and
Speaker 2: she's just very honest and real and humble and just
Speaker 2: seems like a really beautiful person. I think she'd be
Speaker 2: a really nice vibe to be around.
Speaker 1: What would you do if social media died tomorrow gone?
Speaker 2: Well, when we went to eat and retreat, I really
Speaker 2: loved not having my phone. I think I would really
Speaker 2: enjoy your life without my phone. I love it and
Speaker 2: I'm a digital to it, and it gives me all
Speaker 2: these opportunities and it's fun. We do content every single day.
Speaker 2: But I also loved how peaceful I felt not having
Speaker 2: a phone, so I'd kind of accept it. But work wise,
Speaker 2: I mean, I hope we could still do the podcast
Speaker 2: and retreats. But does something. Podcasts are not a thing.
Speaker 1: Podcasts are still a thing that you can't promote it
Speaker 1: on social media. There's no socials.
Speaker 2: Okay, hopefully we've built our podcasts up enough to continue
Speaker 2: to go, keep going and your in person stuff. But yeah, retreats, workshops,
Speaker 2: in person events. Hopefully we can still sell tickets without
Speaker 2: social media. I've always wanted to be a dog washer.
Speaker 2: I don't think I'll do that anymore, though, that was
Speaker 2: always to dream of mine. But even when I walk
Speaker 2: into a health food store, I could so see myself
Speaker 2: working in health food store. Love that I love health
Speaker 2: food stores. I don't know, maybe if I ever had
Speaker 2: to get like a normal job again quite unquote normal job.
Speaker 2: That's probably where I would go interesting about you differ
Speaker 2: through a normal.
Speaker 3: I think initially, like if social media were to die tomorrow,
Speaker 3: I would probably feel a lot of withdrawal at first,
Speaker 3: Like I think I would be pretty devastated and gutted
Speaker 3: because in the opportunity that social media does present, and
Speaker 3: also that feeling of feeling connected to everyone. I remember
Speaker 3: when I did a social media detox like six weeks,
Speaker 3: and I remember initially feeling, holy shit, I'm actually not
Speaker 3: as connected to people that as I thought I was,
Speaker 3: because I'm plugging into everyone's lives, watching what they're doing,
Speaker 3: but I'm not actually calling them, I'm not going and
Speaker 3: seeing them. And I think initially I would feel that
Speaker 3: disappointment and that feeling of like, oh.
Speaker 2: Like whatever.
Speaker 3: But I think with time I would adjust back to
Speaker 3: normal life as well, you know, and I think I
Speaker 3: would love it. It would be peaceful, Like what you said,
Speaker 3: you'd be so present in your everyday life and it
Speaker 3: would just be normal.
Speaker 2: But what job would you do? Real estate agent?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, that you're doing that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I even started that like a couple of years back
Speaker 3: I started to go through that process just because I've
Speaker 3: been in building in construction for my whole life.
Speaker 2: That's cool.
Speaker 3: So it's really like an avenue that I feel confident
Speaker 3: and competent in and I think I could really.
Speaker 2: Expand and that I think i'd have fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd loving that, being able to communicate with new people,
Speaker 3: make connections, you love all relationships, get to see beautiful houses.
Speaker 3: I love interior design and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: So I feel like i'd really have fun with that.
Speaker 2: That's cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about how it would make you feel in
Speaker 1: terms of losing your audience.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's really nice to get all those messages,
Speaker 2: but I also don't rely on it for a source
Speaker 2: of validation, So I think i'd be okay. It is
Speaker 2: really nice and it's a nice stroke to my eg
Speaker 2: and it's good to hear feedback of what I do
Speaker 2: and what I say and how that impacts them. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I feel like I don't rely on that, so I
Speaker 2: think i'd be okay. But I would miss the connection.
Speaker 2: I miss the variety, the miss the fun. Social media
Speaker 2: is quite fun for me, apart from the hate, it's
Speaker 2: quite fun. So I think i'd miss that aspect, especially TikTok.
Speaker 2: It's just so fun. Yeah, it is fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What is one thing that people don't know about you?
Speaker 1: It would have been and you've talked about it, so
Speaker 1: people do know now, but Tiana being a trady.
Speaker 3: Yeap, one hundred percent. Yeah, people not knowing that. I
Speaker 3: don't talk about it that often at all really on
Speaker 3: social media. I have little bits and bobs, but not really.
Speaker 3: It just feels like such like a past life now.
Speaker 3: But literally worked on site for like five years, got
Speaker 3: my carpentry my trade when I was by the time
Speaker 3: I was fully qualified by the time I was nineteen,
Speaker 3: I started in school surrounded by a job site full
Speaker 3: of all men, just me and my sister and all men.
Speaker 3: It was Yeah, it was a whole experience. Taught me
Speaker 3: a lot about life, that's for sure. And like hard work, dedication, discipline.
Speaker 1: Do you still do the odd carpentry job for people?
Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
Speaker 3: I remember saying to my last part like, don't ask
Speaker 3: me to hang a painting, like I'm not gonna fucking.
Speaker 2: Do it, Like I just it's so done. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: so done.
Speaker 3: It doesn't even feel like a part of who I
Speaker 3: am anymore. You know, I feel like before I used
Speaker 3: to really use it as a way to like get
Speaker 3: a bit of an ego hit because I got to
Speaker 3: prove my worth and like what I was capable of
Speaker 3: through that job, and a lot of that was like
Speaker 3: wanting to prove even to my dad that I was capable.
Speaker 3: You know, he had like he's got four girls, right,
Speaker 3: and like who's gonna take over the famly business. His
Speaker 3: son was like the last child, so he was always younger,
Speaker 3: so you're like, oh, we'll take on the family business,
Speaker 3: like even though we're girls. And it was like this
Speaker 3: proving energy. But I did get a lot out of it,
Speaker 3: so I'm grateful for it.
Speaker 2: Probably something I haven't really spoken about up until recently
Speaker 2: and then I'm actually like why the fuck do I care?
Speaker 2: Is when I broke up with my first boyfriends, I
Speaker 2: must have been eighteen. I worked behind bars in wa
Speaker 2: and what they call a skimpy bar maids, so you
Speaker 2: just wear like a skimpy outfit and they give you
Speaker 2: tips and you make bank working by a bar, and
Speaker 2: I used to carry shame for it. Then. Honestly, the
Speaker 2: girls at Sin City in Bedroom, which is two of
Speaker 2: the big nightclubs on the Gold Coast. Were you wore
Speaker 2: more clothes than the girls than the Gold Coroast? Do? Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like they were literally in bras and undersin bedroom, Yeah,
Speaker 2: bedroom nightclub. But yeah, Me and a bunch of girlfriends
Speaker 2: went over there and it was just staying on the
Speaker 2: Gold Coast. I kept going back to my ex, even
Speaker 2: though I knew I didn't want to be with him.
Speaker 2: It was just company and I just could watch his
Speaker 2: heartbreak every time I would go in and come out
Speaker 2: and go in and come out. So I just packed
Speaker 2: up and moved over there with a bunch of girlfriends,
Speaker 2: and I had a lot of guy friends over there
Speaker 2: that worked the minds and I spent about six months
Speaker 2: working over there, making an absolute killing, and then met
Speaker 2: Steve online and came back to meet him and met
Speaker 2: him and never went back. So yeah, it was a
Speaker 2: crazy time in my life. It was really fun and
Speaker 2: it was fun just to it didn't work that many hours.
Speaker 2: You'd work like twenty hours a week and make ten
Speaker 2: twenty grand.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They just men over there just tipped like crazy. I
Speaker 2: was never a topless waiter yeah, or topless bar girl.
Speaker 2: There was the pub that I worked out, and then
Speaker 2: there was one next to it with their topless girls
Speaker 2: were I never did that. I just didn't have the
Speaker 2: confidence too. But yeah, it was fun. It was a
Speaker 2: cool time in my life. Fun different be out at
Speaker 2: home and make bank. Yeah, and a lots of holidays.
Speaker 2: Took my friends on holidays, paid off some bills. I
Speaker 2: think because I never took my top off and I
Speaker 2: was never a flirty bar made I was more the
Speaker 2: guy's mates. I got tipped a lot better than a
Speaker 2: lot of the other girls because I was quite friends
Speaker 2: with them. And I also felt really protected, Like I
Speaker 2: think it's quite a dangerous job for girls, like if
Speaker 2: you don't have people there, whereas I had a lot
Speaker 2: of guy friends there that were protecting me. So I
Speaker 2: would get dropped off and picked up every shift, whereas
Speaker 2: a lot of girls would stay up in the bar
Speaker 2: or like walk home. And there was some stuff that
Speaker 2: happened to a lot of women, but I always felt
Speaker 2: I was just friends with everyone. Yeah, it was cool.
Speaker 2: So I haven't really ever spoken about that because it
Speaker 2: was embarrassed now and every now and again because you
Speaker 2: have to have a different name, so my name was
Speaker 2: Pam over there PAMs. Every now and again, I'll do
Speaker 2: a Q and A and someone will write how you
Speaker 2: go on PAM and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, oh doug it, Oh my god, I come hide
Speaker 1: from that tole.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but now I'm like, oh, why do I care
Speaker 2: so much? It was actually like, yeah, sixteen years old
Speaker 2: and it's just a little chapter.
Speaker 1: So what's the most you've ever been paid for a
Speaker 1: social media post?
Speaker 2: One singular post is fifteen thousand dollars? Most have been paid.
Speaker 2: My average was like ten thousand consistently, and then it
Speaker 2: depends if you go now it's like real story set
Speaker 2: stories are now. One set can be three frames, another
Speaker 2: set can be five frames. TikTok. I don't really get
Speaker 2: paid on tikto. I don't get any jobs book for TikTok,
Speaker 2: but Instagram and Snapchat. Yeah, my biggest was fifteen thousand dollars. Wow, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's cool.
Speaker 1: Would you rather be rich and ugly or poor and hot?
Speaker 3: Wait, richard reach and ugly or poor and hot rich
Speaker 3: and ugly because and ugly don't get worked Onne, I'll
Speaker 3: go visit botox stuff.
Speaker 1: That's so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, rich and ugly for sure. Yeah, I feel like
Speaker 2: you just had a funn of life. If you had
Speaker 2: more money, you're poor. You can't do anything. You're hotter
Speaker 2: when you got kidding?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I mean, have you seen Jeff bezos
Speaker 3: is with that younger girl? Now he's what's the name
Speaker 3: she just went to space Lauren Sanchez or something like that.
Speaker 2: I only just saw it on Instagram other day.
Speaker 3: But he was previously with his other wife that he'd
Speaker 3: been with for forever and then they had a divorce.
Speaker 3: How to split and now he's with like some young woman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean so, I'm like, that's so funny.
Speaker 1: Who's the most famous person you have in your phone?
Speaker 2: Ashy? I think I have anyone famous in my phone?
Speaker 2: He's not that roll. But Brian Reeves, who went viral
Speaker 2: on social media for a while. He was my relationship coach.
Speaker 2: Otherwise not I think. So I've known so one that's
Speaker 2: had sex with Channing Tatum. Cool. Katie loves it. She's
Speaker 2: and nodding and I loved her and she told me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, yeah, did she see him again?
Speaker 2: Yeap, multiple times?
Speaker 1: And then what happened?
Speaker 2: It just went off and did his career in life?
Speaker 1: Was it before he was famous?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: More recent after his divorce with Jenna that's all my questions.
Speaker 2: They are good questions. We will see Katie another couple
Speaker 2: of months for another one where she can take the
Speaker 2: time to prehap some questions. Again, thanks for joining us,
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks Katie, see you guys on Friday. Bye.