WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 17 September

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray life. It

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<v Speaker 1>may not surprise you, but from time to time I

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<v Speaker 1>have played cirkum machines. Oh no, terrible right, many of

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<v Speaker 1>them are involved in RSL clubs. But is it time

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<v Speaker 1>for the RSL club to be no longer called the

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<v Speaker 1>RSL Club? We'll explain why in a moment or two.

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<v Speaker 1>Is time. Nigel Farras joins us tonight. Cannot wait for it,

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<v Speaker 1>and lots of more detail from what you've already heard

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<v Speaker 1>about what Trump has had to say about what happened

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<v Speaker 1>to him yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have loved to have thank that last, but

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<v Speaker 2>but we decided let's get out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>As you know, housing in this country is a very

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<v Speaker 1>significant issue. There is not enough places for people to buy,

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<v Speaker 1>there is not enough places for people to rent, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course we have a system where we just bring

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<v Speaker 1>on in hundreds of thousands of more people each and

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<v Speaker 1>every year. The federal government thinks the way to solve

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<v Speaker 1>all of this is, of course to throw more money

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<v Speaker 1>at the problem, but specifically not really homes that you

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<v Speaker 1>and I would be able to get access to. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>it's generally speaking about social housing. Housing Commission homes and

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<v Speaker 1>the Prime Minister is not getting his way because the

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<v Speaker 1>Greens are saying no, everyone else in the Parliament is

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<v Speaker 1>saying no. So today Albow threw the ultimate toy out

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<v Speaker 1>of the cot that any Australian Prime minister has the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to do, and that is to threaten that if

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<v Speaker 1>they don't get what they want out of the Senate

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<v Speaker 1>and it is rejected twice, then we would be off

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<v Speaker 1>to a double disillusion election. Try not to laugh.

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<v Speaker 3>You could go to a D day, though I probably

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<v Speaker 3>won't go to a D day because it wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>a great result for you, would it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, well, wait and see.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. Of course, the bad result that to Andrew was

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<v Speaker 1>referring to there was that in a double disolution election,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really matter what happens downstairs, because it's still

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<v Speaker 1>all of the normal seats. You need seventy six to

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<v Speaker 1>become the government. But in a double disillusion what you

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<v Speaker 1>do is, rather than have harm of the Senate up

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<v Speaker 1>for grabs with the other half sitting around for another

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<v Speaker 1>three years, you wipe everyone and you go back to

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<v Speaker 1>the start. Every spot in the Senate would become available.

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<v Speaker 1>But as that other strategic political genius the ghost Malcolm

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<v Speaker 1>Turnbull worked out if you have a double dissolution and

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<v Speaker 1>all of the Senate is up for grabs, then the

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<v Speaker 1>bar to actually get people elected to the Senate is halved.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally half as many votes as you would need to

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<v Speaker 1>get in on a half Senate or normal election would

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<v Speaker 1>be the case in a double dissolution. Now that would mean,

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<v Speaker 1>given the current polls, there would be more Greens in

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<v Speaker 1>the Upper House. It would potentially mean that there would

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<v Speaker 1>be more Libs in the Upper House. Of course, the

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<v Speaker 1>cross Bench two would most likely explode, just like it

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<v Speaker 1>did again when that guy playing four D chess did

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<v Speaker 1>it in twenty sixteen. And if you halved the quota

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<v Speaker 1>for people to get into the Senate, there'd be more

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<v Speaker 1>people from one nation, more people from the Lambing network,

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<v Speaker 1>probably more people from United Australia Party, and definitely another

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<v Speaker 1>teal that would end up getting up, most likely in

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<v Speaker 1>places like the Act. But there's other people who would

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<v Speaker 1>be added to the cross beach. Now the Prime Minister thinks,

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<v Speaker 1>look more of the people who generally vote with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Who cares? The problem is it could go in any

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<v Speaker 1>different direction. Legalized cannabis most likely would get pretty close

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<v Speaker 1>to winning a Senate seat. Their vote is very close,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have representatives in the Victorian, New South Wales

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<v Speaker 1>and Western Australian parliaments. What about the libertarian movement? Libertarian

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<v Speaker 1>movement formerly of the Liberal Democrats, has had people elected

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<v Speaker 1>to the parliament before. They do okay in Victoria, they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing particularly well in New South Wales. Could they end

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<v Speaker 1>up going in And of course, when you have a

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<v Speaker 1>look at the overall trajectory of the polls, the Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Minister can threaten all he wants, call is bluff because

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<v Speaker 1>if there was an election, he would get his backside

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<v Speaker 1>handed to him. He would lose majority, he would go

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<v Speaker 1>into minority. As we showed you last week or last night,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say, there's some analysis that both parties could

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<v Speaker 1>end up in the minority position. Don't forget you want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the poll's Prime Minister before you put

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<v Speaker 1>out your piss week threats. Fifty seven percent of people

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<v Speaker 1>have told the Red Bridge polling organization they cannot name

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<v Speaker 1>one thing, not one thing that you have done since

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<v Speaker 1>you became Prime minister to make people's life better. There is,

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<v Speaker 1>of course the polling that exists, as you've already just

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<v Speaker 1>seen from the resolve people. That show fifty three percent

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<v Speaker 1>of people say the current prime minister's performance in most

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<v Speaker 1>recent weeks is poor or very poor. So good luck, Pale,

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<v Speaker 1>make whatever threat you want, pour whatever sugar you need

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<v Speaker 1>into the press. Galleries year that everything is just the

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<v Speaker 1>same as it was before the twenty twenty two election,

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<v Speaker 1>because just as it wasn't the same as the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen election, trying to turn the twenty and twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>election into the twenty sixteen election will have exactly the

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<v Speaker 1>same result. A first term government will get a whole

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<v Speaker 1>collection of seats smashed out off their record. But unlike

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<v Speaker 1>the Ghost who had a backbench thanks to the win

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<v Speaker 1>of Tony Abott in two and thirteen, you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any backbench to burn. You have a majority government of

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<v Speaker 1>just two seats. It is inevitable that every first term

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<v Speaker 1>government loses seats. We saw it in twenty ten with

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<v Speaker 1>Gillard and Rudd. We saw it in two thousand, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety eight when it came to John Howard.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw it in two thousand and sixteen when it

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<v Speaker 1>was the Ghost. So good luck, you make your threats.

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<v Speaker 1>The Greens think they're in a sweet spot when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to housing, particularly in and around Southeast Queensland, because

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<v Speaker 1>their focus is utterly on renters. The Opposition think that

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<v Speaker 1>they're in a sweet spot because they believe that people

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<v Speaker 1>should be able to access things like their superannuation to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to get something resembling a deposit, to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to buy a house. And while there is tens

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<v Speaker 1>of thousands of people who are waiting on public housing

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<v Speaker 1>waiting lists, I'm not sure too many of them don't

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<v Speaker 1>already vote for your Prime minister. And then there's of

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<v Speaker 1>course two very different groups who would barely agree ever,

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<v Speaker 1>who think the Prime Minister is the problem, who think

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<v Speaker 1>that his government is the problem. And while he parties

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<v Speaker 1>around thinking that he's the celebrity Prime Minister, the reality

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<v Speaker 1>is that this is a guy who doesn't impress anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>As you've heard tonight Chief Executives via the Business Council

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<v Speaker 1>of Australia, they're having a dinner right now. The Prime

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<v Speaker 1>mint is coppying it between the eyes from the business community.

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<v Speaker 1>He also copped it between the eyes today for the

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<v Speaker 1>man who led the ACTU when the Labor Party truly

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<v Speaker 1>reformed the economy back in the nineteen eighties and nineteen nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go back to what the bosses have had to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Chief executives of the nation's biggest companies are warning that

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<v Speaker 1>Australia is losing our way and taking steps backwards. The

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<v Speaker 1>person who represents the Business Council, who represents companies like BHP,

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<v Speaker 1>the Banks, Accounting, First West, Farmers, Hancock, Prospecting, Telstra, Atlasian

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<v Speaker 1>and Quantas, say the country is losing its way. Instead

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<v Speaker 1>of taking big steps on the things the matter, we're

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<v Speaker 1>taking incremental but noticeable steps backwards. Of course, the Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Minister already had a response to these evil business leaders.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it really the time to be hitting businesses with

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<v Speaker 3>your wave of ir reforms, increasing red tape and requirements

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<v Speaker 3>on business.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's be very clear those reforms have passed and under

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<v Speaker 4>those reforms. This Thursday, two days time, the clock's ticking

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<v Speaker 4>on whether we will reach one million new jobs being

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<v Speaker 4>created since we're elected to government. So what we're seeing

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<v Speaker 4>is more jobs being created. We are seeing higher wages,

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<v Speaker 4>We're seeing continued growth, We're seeing a continued rise in

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<v Speaker 4>business investment. We're seeing all of those factors.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Course, as I've shown you many times before. When

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the economic growth, this country is more

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<v Speaker 1>like the car that's out of tune, that's idling at

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<v Speaker 1>the traffic lights and just slightly creeping forward. But then

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<v Speaker 1>there's Bill Kelty, former boss of the Australian and the

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<v Speaker 1>Act you the Trade Union. He says that we need

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<v Speaker 1>a labor party in which big issues are confronted, describing

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<v Speaker 1>the other an easy government instead as mired and mediocrity.

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<v Speaker 1>The government needs a greater dose of imagination. The Labor

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<v Speaker 1>Party seems to have lost its way, so the bosses

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<v Speaker 1>the unions are saying the same thing. The Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 1>just thinks you're stupid and are too busy to notice.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't accept the premise because every indication is

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<v Speaker 4>certainly not that. I'm very confident that when Australians focus

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<v Speaker 4>on what the next term is about, a government that's

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<v Speaker 4>making a difference to the economy, a government that what's

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<v Speaker 4>an economy to work for people, not the other way around.

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<v Speaker 1>Brother. Of course, the reality, this is what I've spoken

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<v Speaker 1>about for years now, is that the economy that they

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<v Speaker 1>talk about is the economy that the government's able to

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<v Speaker 1>give itself a gold star for the one that talks about, say,

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<v Speaker 1>budget surpluses, not budget deficits. The economy in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>you and I is that we're in recession for six

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<v Speaker 1>quarters in a row, the best part of eighteen months.

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<v Speaker 1>We've all gone backwards. The only reason that we are

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<v Speaker 1>sputtering in terms of growth is because of the number

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<v Speaker 1>of public servants that have been hired, the pay rises

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<v Speaker 1>to the public servants, the amount of infrastructure spending that

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<v Speaker 1>state governments are borrowing billions of dollars to build, which

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<v Speaker 1>in part also is pushing up inflation, an inflation rate that,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, in Australia is doing worse than places

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<v Speaker 1>like the United Kingdom, the United States or Canada. And

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<v Speaker 1>when the Prime Minister talks about growth again, stats baby,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got them here. We've got the data, not just

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<v Speaker 1>the opinion, not just the Catherine Wheel of showbiz. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got the data to prove it. Powe. This is Australia

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<v Speaker 1>in anemic growth. Remember as soon as there's a minus, as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as you go under zero percent for two quarters

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<v Speaker 1>in a row, then you're in a recession. We are

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<v Speaker 1>barely barely growing. Yet the Prime Minister says, well, look

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<v Speaker 1>at us one point five percent growth. We are doing

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<v Speaker 1>better than insert country. Insert country, Well what about the

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<v Speaker 1>United States? The United States were inflation at one point

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<v Speaker 1>hit the best part of nine percent. It's the number

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<v Speaker 1>one issue in the upcoming federal election and if anything,

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<v Speaker 1>would be the sole reason why there may be a

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<v Speaker 1>change of president. Look what their growth is compared to

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<v Speaker 1>out growth right now. The Prime Minister likes to tell

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<v Speaker 1>himself a whole collection of stories that he has a

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<v Speaker 1>special connection with the Australian politics that Peter Dutton could

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<v Speaker 1>never possibly replicate. That if he tells you that he's

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<v Speaker 1>helped you out with two little too late tax cuts,

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<v Speaker 1>you're too stupid to notice that despite the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he promised to cut your energy bill by two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and seventy five dollars. Instead there's a twenty five dollar credit,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe for the next twelve months to get you through

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<v Speaker 1>an election. But of course that twenty five dollar credit

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<v Speaker 1>comes after your bills are already gone up by the best

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<v Speaker 1>part of one thousand dollars. The Prime Minister and the

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<v Speaker 1>people around need to understand that. In the same way,

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<v Speaker 1>when you point to the stock market as an example

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<v Speaker 1>of how amazing the economy is going, the reality of

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<v Speaker 1>every day people's lives is all that matters. Because while

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<v Speaker 1>the big companies may matter, and the big unions may matter,

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<v Speaker 1>and the big media mates may matter, there's about seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>million Australians who once every couple of years get the

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<v Speaker 1>chance to say whether they want to rehire or fire

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<v Speaker 1>a government. And the polls right now suggest that minority

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<v Speaker 1>government is a virtual inevitability. You see Anthony Abernez, he

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<v Speaker 1>may well think and the people around him that if

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<v Speaker 1>they just show lots of black and white images of

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Dutton and say cut, cut, cut, and pretend that

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to put a nuclear reactor in everyone's backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>The reality is that when this government was hired, it

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<v Speaker 1>was under a promise of doing better. Instead everything got worse.

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<v Speaker 1>There was one interest rate rise under the previous government.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been twelve under this one. So you tell

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<v Speaker 1>yourself your stories. The reporters will write them down, shove

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<v Speaker 1>them through the air like you want them to. But

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<v Speaker 1>the reality of the people sitting on the other end,

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<v Speaker 1>they go, I'm sorry. Remember almost sixty percent of Australians

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<v Speaker 1>cannot say one thing that this government has done to

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<v Speaker 1>make their lives any better. Good luck with that proposition

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<v Speaker 1>at an election. Prime Minister. Meantime, I've got another bit

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<v Speaker 1>of news for you in and around cost of living. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>some deep data thinkers have been having a look at

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<v Speaker 1>whether people have been spending their two little too late

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<v Speaker 1>tax cuts, and the assumption is no, they haven't been,

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<v Speaker 1>which is good because it means it's not been pushed

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<v Speaker 1>towards inflation. However, one of the reasons why people are

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<v Speaker 1>holding on to what very little of the too little,

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<v Speaker 1>too late that they had is because they are expecting

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<v Speaker 1>mega tax bills to be coming their way. Those maybele

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<v Speaker 1>of all he started coming. We learned today by the

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<v Speaker 1>Cidny Morning Herald that the Australian Tax Office is getting

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<v Speaker 1>ready as we are all doing our returns, to come

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<v Speaker 1>after business and individuals. They claim there's about one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars in the Australian economy an unpaid tax. So

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<v Speaker 1>of course they will pretend they're going to shake down

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<v Speaker 1>the companies. The reality is they will shake down the

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<v Speaker 1>small business, the sole trader, anyone with an ABN, anyone

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<v Speaker 1>who decides to claim as legally they can, the amount

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<v Speaker 1>that they use their car to go toward from work

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<v Speaker 1>put simply you. Meantime, we also learned today about several

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<v Speaker 1>issues when it comes to housing. Again, nothing to see here.

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<v Speaker 1>Housing is not a problem, it's all a problem. In

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate might have a double dissolution about it. No,

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<v Speaker 1>the QE for renters. The queue for people to buy

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<v Speaker 1>houses gets longer because of this government's repeated obsession with

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<v Speaker 1>bringing hundreds of thousands of people into the country. We

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<v Speaker 1>learned today that figgers that were released to The Australian

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<v Speaker 1>by the Liberal senator Dean Smith show there was evidence

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<v Speaker 1>of mortgage stress, particularly in places like Tasmania, with a

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<v Speaker 1>seventy two percent increase in the number of mortgage holders

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<v Speaker 1>that were falling into arrears. On over the economy's amazing

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<v Speaker 1>prime minister sixty four percent increase in South Australia, sixty

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<v Speaker 1>two percent jump in Queensland, forty four percent rise in

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<v Speaker 1>Western Australia. And then there's of course the people who

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to build their dream home, because you see,

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<v Speaker 1>the property market isn't just about people who want to

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<v Speaker 1>buy their one bedroom unit, but maybe the people who

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<v Speaker 1>want to buy the place for their family. They want

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<v Speaker 1>it design just the way they like, so they say

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<v Speaker 1>about their cash and they hire a builder. Now many

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<v Speaker 1>builders have gone bus because the price they quoted you

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<v Speaker 1>a year ago or two years ago, they can't deliver

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<v Speaker 1>because guess what, the cost of building a house has

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<v Speaker 1>gone up by forty percent and not bay up in

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<v Speaker 1>the past twelve months. I'm saying before the pandemic, forty

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<v Speaker 1>percent higher than it was a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, Australians are spending as much as fifty seven

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<v Speaker 1>percent more to build a brand new house than before

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic. Most expensive places Victoria, what a surprise, least

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<v Speaker 1>expensive Queensland. But don't think it's all rosy for people

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<v Speaker 1>in Queensland, because we learn this week as well about

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<v Speaker 1>people in Queensland, specifically Brisbane who actually live up the

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<v Speaker 1>hill a little bit that they are still being slugged

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<v Speaker 1>with huge increases in insurance premiums, which, as we've shown

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<v Speaker 1>you many times over many months, over a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years now, is a massive factor in the inflation number

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<v Speaker 1>that remember, is higher than other parts of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Some Brisbane people trying to ensure their home have seen

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<v Speaker 1>a jump of up to ten times because of new

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<v Speaker 1>council maps, and it means that just because someone lives

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<v Speaker 1>in the same local government area as you, but they

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<v Speaker 1>live at bottom of the hill, but you live halfway

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<v Speaker 1>up or on the top, then all of you will

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<v Speaker 1>pay the same. Oh, but the economy is amazing, and

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<v Speaker 1>if we have a double disillusion election, Labor will do

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<v Speaker 1>so well. Such a tactical genius who can annoy both

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<v Speaker 1>the business community and the union community. See nothing now.

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<v Speaker 1>We earlier this year had the Queensland local government elections,

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<v Speaker 1>and all the weekend just gone we had the new

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<v Speaker 1>South Wales local council elections. Much of the headlines out

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<v Speaker 1>of that were people talking about the Sidney Lord Mayor

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<v Speaker 1>and Clover Moore winning an eight hundredth year in power.

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<v Speaker 1>Does she buy herself a new choker every time? Who

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<v Speaker 1>knows quite the collection. But some people are now starting

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<v Speaker 1>to dig into the other results that came out of

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<v Speaker 1>the new local government elections, including that apparently the Labor

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<v Speaker 1>Party was starting to get itself into a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of trouble, particularly in Western Sydney. But you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>economy is amazing. Wouldn't everyone vote Labor at the next election.

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<v Speaker 1>The political strategist to at one point in time work

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<v Speaker 1>for the Labor Party who now does the red Bridge Pole,

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<v Speaker 1>because Samaras said the party was struggling in this traditional

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<v Speaker 1>heartland at western Sydney and the RBNZ government should be

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<v Speaker 1>concerned about the next federally concerned he's trying to call

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<v Speaker 1>on a double dissolution. Good luck meantime, With the Liberal

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<v Speaker 1>Party unavailable due to their own stupidity and factional nonsense

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<v Speaker 1>not being on the cards, there was a center right

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<v Speaker 1>party that did particularly well, the Libertarian Party formerly the

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<v Speaker 1>Liberal Democrats Party. They deserve a shout out that they

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<v Speaker 1>should have got yesterday. I'm sorry I give it to

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<v Speaker 1>them today because I was distracted by events in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States. They won fifteen council seats and that's huge

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<v Speaker 1>because put simply, they have one seat in the New

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<v Speaker 1>so of Wales Parliament, but they they have one seat

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<v Speaker 1>in the Victorian Parliament. They have clearly support and libertarianism

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<v Speaker 1>I think is probably a little bit more popular once

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<v Speaker 1>people actually know what it is. But the brand of

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<v Speaker 1>the Libertarian Party did particularly well, and it did well

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<v Speaker 1>in lots of different places, including in and around the

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<v Speaker 1>outer fringes of Sydney in an area called Camden. Today

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<v Speaker 1>as part of the celebration. They were out and about

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<v Speaker 1>saying that literally every single development application that will be

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<v Speaker 1>lodged by that candidate by that council will be approved

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<v Speaker 1>by a libertarian because they believe in getting on with it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reason I talk about all of this now

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<v Speaker 1>is there is a huge blind spot for the center

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<v Speaker 1>right and right of Australian politics. Too often it is

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<v Speaker 1>arrogant about the role local government plays now. In many ways,

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<v Speaker 1>I have said to lots of people who've run lots

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<v Speaker 1>of minor parties over the years, why don't you run

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<v Speaker 1>candidates at local government? Just say roads rates rubbish and

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<v Speaker 1>will keep Australia. Unsurprisingly, most people who don't know anything

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<v Speaker 1>about whom they're voting for would probably vote for that

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<v Speaker 1>because at least they know what they're getting. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>a second reason why political parties should put effort into

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<v Speaker 1>the people whom they a local council, not just to

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<v Speaker 1>be counselors, but potentially mayors, because guess what happens when

0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:09.000
<v Speaker 1>a local community gets to know and like a mayor,

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<v Speaker 1>they can run for state parliament and they often end

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<v Speaker 1>up winning seats in state parliament. The same could be

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<v Speaker 1>said in federal Parliament. Christy McBain I think, is a

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<v Speaker 1>rising star of the Labor Party, so former mayor, and

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<v Speaker 1>she of course has won the seat of eden Minera,

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<v Speaker 1>which apparently was remember the Bellweather seat, but it didn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's now locked in as virtually a safe seat. She

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the mayors in and around that part

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<v Speaker 1>of the south coast of New South Wales, in and

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<v Speaker 1>around the fires. My point is this, everyone focuses on

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<v Speaker 1>winning a Senate seat, because understandably that's a big game,

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<v Speaker 1>but why not run more people with very clear traditional

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<v Speaker 1>values at local council level. Maybe they can stop the

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<v Speaker 1>local councils getting outside their lane. Maybe they can become

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<v Speaker 1>the mayor, maybe they can be seen as somebody who's

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<v Speaker 1>upholding a whole series of traditions. And then that base

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<v Speaker 1>you get to work off to become a state MP

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<v Speaker 1>and eventually a federal MP. Too many center right parties

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<v Speaker 1>start at the Senate and yes it's always hard to

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<v Speaker 1>find people, but even if you can't find candidates, why

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<v Speaker 1>not do surveys of the candidates that are running and

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<v Speaker 1>say this is the one that's most like us, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the one who's promised to do the things that

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<v Speaker 1>we've asked them to do. So world under the Libertarian Party,

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<v Speaker 1>not just on their results, but on having the courage

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<v Speaker 1>to actually go and start at the bottom of the

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<v Speaker 1>political pyramid, because it does eventually bear fruit. It eventually

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<v Speaker 1>produces federal members of Parliament. It means communities get to

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<v Speaker 1>know you over years and years, and then the personal

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<v Speaker 1>vote can often overcome whatever garbage is being thrown into

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<v Speaker 1>a local area from a local or national media who

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<v Speaker 1>frankly don't know what they're talking about. So well done

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<v Speaker 1>again the Libertarian Party and everyone involved in it. The

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<v Speaker 1>more you read about Libertarianism, the more sense it makes

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<v Speaker 1>to me, at least Jeff Kennet when he has plenty

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<v Speaker 1>to say, and he is an iconic figure of Australian politics.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, he hasn't been an elected office for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, but I love when he just remains part

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<v Speaker 1>of the debate and fearless. He wrote a great piece

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<v Speaker 1>today in the Herald Sign which was about why the

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<v Speaker 1>Greens must go last. Now by extension, I would suggest

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<v Speaker 1>that your preferences absolutely matter. They matter at every election

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<v Speaker 1>and if you're somebody who goes well put them all last.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what you get end up with the Labour Party.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you end up putting the party that you

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<v Speaker 1>would like to be the government number two, then guess

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<v Speaker 1>what you'll probably end up with them. We saw the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between twenty twenty two put them all last in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen, when preference discipline meant the revolution was delayed

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<v Speaker 1>by three years. Jeff writes today about the Greens and

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<v Speaker 1>the moral case for why they must go last. The

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<v Speaker 1>last thing I want to see is a Minori government

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<v Speaker 1>where the Greens hold the balance of influence. Their behavior

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<v Speaker 1>recently has been divisive, confrontational and simply un Australian. Many

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<v Speaker 1>worry about the extreme right, but we should be equally

0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:13.720
<v Speaker 1>worried about the extremism of the Greens. My assessment of

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<v Speaker 1>their policies announced today is that they are simply unaffordable

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<v Speaker 1>and would guarantee inflation and interest rates remain high, a

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<v Speaker 1>huge cost to all Australians, particularly are young. The Greens

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<v Speaker 1>are simply not economically responsible, he continues a few pars later,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's up to the Australians to reject their extremism.

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<v Speaker 1>To that end, they represent a very real threat to

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<v Speaker 1>the country's cohesion. I've given the opportunity to hold the

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<v Speaker 1>balance of influence in a federal parliament, Australia is in

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<v Speaker 1>for a very rough time where quite possibly little will

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<v Speaker 1>be done or worse. Excellent point. Now let's talk in

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<v Speaker 1>it around Donald Trump and of course the second attempt

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<v Speaker 1>on his life in just a few weeks. But amazing

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<v Speaker 1>to watch this news story again, just fold high hide.

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<v Speaker 1>It's referred to as an apparent or alleged attempted assassination. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, don't you love this now? Of course,

0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:10.480
<v Speaker 1>the person who has been arrested, thankfully is behind bars.

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<v Speaker 1>We will eventually hear what was really going on. You

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<v Speaker 1>notice the media, of course, doesn't talk much about the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that when his truck was parked out in the

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<v Speaker 1>front of the house. Google Earth goes past and guess what, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Biden Harristicker. Of course, if it was the other way

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<v Speaker 1>around and it was a Trump supporter, we'd still be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it as the lead story, right, I don't know,

0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:32.000
<v Speaker 1>but nothing to see there now. Interestingly, now, local cops

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<v Speaker 1>this is their sort of big moment in the sun,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes they say things that they probably shouldn't, not

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<v Speaker 1>because they're telling lies, but because clearly you can see

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<v Speaker 1>that the more established people around them, from the state

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<v Speaker 1>or the federal law enforcement, they don't like what they're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't say that bit like when that guy yesterday told

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<v Speaker 1>us that if the president was the sitting president, there

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<v Speaker 1>would have been more security around him, but because the

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<v Speaker 1>former president, he doesn't get as much. So cue this

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<v Speaker 1>bloke and again you didn't see this on your six

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<v Speaker 1>pm news.

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<v Speaker 5>How's a guy from not here get all the way

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<v Speaker 5>to Mark to Trump International realize that the president for

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<v Speaker 5>our president of the United States is golfing and he

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<v Speaker 5>is able to get a rifle in that vicinity. I

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<v Speaker 5>think that's the question THATBI Secret Service or laser focused

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<v Speaker 5>on today. Is this gay part of a conspiracy? Is

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<v Speaker 5>he a long gun.

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<v Speaker 1>Sh Move on, move on, move on, Jady Van's cats,

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<v Speaker 1>Jady Vans catz. That's literally what they're doing in America

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<v Speaker 1>because the media is so bad over there that they

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<v Speaker 1>think to even investigate this story. Somehow legitimizes that Trump

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<v Speaker 1>may have died and if that happens, well, then people

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:45.680
<v Speaker 1>might have sympathy for him, or they might want to

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<v Speaker 1>rally around him for fight fight fight, So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it. Doesn't exist, doesn't exist. For their part,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the people who were playing golf with Trump

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday have given interviews, including a property developer who was

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<v Speaker 1>playing golf at the time with Donald Trump on the

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<v Speaker 1>course where the shooter had been waiting for twelve hours.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole just up around the corner. He spoke to

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<v Speaker 1>Hannity today.

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<v Speaker 6>It was terrible, but I got to see I got

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<v Speaker 6>to see a man who was stoic, courageous, cared about

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<v Speaker 6>his friend's safety and lot first before his own life.

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 6>He was an inspiration to everybody who was around him yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>He of course, had plenty more to say, particularly around

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<v Speaker 1>the Secret Service, who didn't just shoot in the direction

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<v Speaker 1>of the person after seeing the barrel, but also getting

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:35.920
<v Speaker 1>the president off the course. Apparently there's some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>high speed golf card that they have.

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<v Speaker 6>You knew immediately it was gun fire. It didn't sound

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<v Speaker 6>like firecrackers. The Secret Service were exceptional. They had the

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<v Speaker 6>President secured in my estimation, because I was five yards

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<v Speaker 6>away from him in my estimation, maybe after the first shot,

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<v Speaker 6>certainly after the second shot, so by the time the

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:04.359
<v Speaker 6>fourth shot rang out, the President was on his way.

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<v Speaker 6>With that detail, it was as if they had practiced

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<v Speaker 6>it five hundred times before.

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<v Speaker 1>Now for Donald Trump himself, he has not spoken in

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 1>front of a camera yet. Instead, he did a Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>x's session, where it's basically a live podcast. This was

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<v Speaker 1>with somebody in the crypto space, because apparently this week

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 1>the plan was to announce some sort of Trump crypto coin.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to that later, but this is what he

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<v Speaker 1>had to say about the experience. In fact, this is

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<v Speaker 1>how he describes the moment the shots were fired towards

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>the gunman who was planning to kill him.

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<v Speaker 2>Very peaceful, very beautiful, whether everything was beautiful, It was

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<v Speaker 2>a nice place to be, and all of a sudden

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:45.639
<v Speaker 2>we heard shots being fired in the air and I

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<v Speaker 2>guess probably four or five and it sounded like bullets.

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<v Speaker 1>But what do I know about that? But Secret Service

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:52.880
<v Speaker 1>knew immediately it was bullets.

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 2>I was with an agent, and the agent did a

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<v Speaker 2>fantastic There was no question that we were off that course.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, you've got to have a certain ego and certain

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 1>stones to want to run for any elected office, a

0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:06.679
<v Speaker 1>little one the presidency of the United States. He lit

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 1>alone everything that has changed in the past few years

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>for Donald Trump, but just there used to say no

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:15.440
<v Speaker 1>drummer or Bama. You know, we know how theatrical at times,

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Trump can be. Just level telling this story, he again

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<v Speaker 1>continues to do so.

0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:25.360
<v Speaker 2>And he ran across the street and grabbed his car,

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 2>opped into his truck or car, and amazingly a civilian

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 2>in that area, so it's something and it looked very suspicious,

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 2>and in the car, drove their car to the back

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:44.040
<v Speaker 2>of his truck of some kind and took pictures of

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:48.360
<v Speaker 2>the license plate, gave them to the sheriff's offers.

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<v Speaker 1>And finally, my favorite bit, the second attempt on his

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 1>life after the first fight fight fight, and you know

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 1>how much I love that. Thank you for your reaction

0:28:57.120 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>to last night's show. This is his reaction to this

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>second person trying to kill him this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have loved to have sank that last part,

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<v Speaker 2>but we decided, well, let's get out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>But even after the shooting, we all know Trump's the problem. Rhyme.

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<v Speaker 7>If Donald Trump wants people wants Kamala Harris and others

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<v Speaker 7>to say to stop saying that he is a threat

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 7>to democracy, then he should stop threatening democracy. Perhaps he

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 7>shouldn't be overturning trying to overturn elections, overthrow the government,

0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 7>and inciting insurrections.

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<v Speaker 8>The former president's own words seem to be increasing the

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<v Speaker 8>threat of political violence in Springfield, Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>The calls to tone down are good, but they need

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<v Speaker 1>to come from inside the house. Well, these people are

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>nuts ante nothing possibly bagged could happen him, because if

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 1>we admit that, then then he ends up getting sympathy,

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>and if you get sympathy, he gets votes. Please not

0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 1>your feraches on the show. I'm looking forward to that,

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Megan Kelly on tomorrow Nights shut now forty nine Dice

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<v Speaker 1>to Go. I want to again show you some data

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 1>here which was just about where the race is now.

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 1>A grade polls. These are the ones that basically have

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<v Speaker 1>been pretty close to accurate in the past, and I

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 1>think was banged on in twenty twenty a pole that

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>came out a couple of days ago. It shows Trump

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 1>leading fifty one to forty eight. But then I can

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 1>show you another a grade poll that shows Harris winning

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 1>forty nine to forty five. So okay, let's have a

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 1>look at the overall averages of poles. Now they are

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 1>getting better for Harris as more poles coming after the debate,

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 1>she leads by one point seven percent nationally. Now, the

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 1>reason why many of the prediction things say that Trump's

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 1>going to win is because unless she's winning currently by

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>two or more, then that's considered to be yes, a

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 1>big winning California, a big win in New York, but

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 1>the swing states would end up turning against her. But

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>here's the bit that's really worth having a look at. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>Harris is actually running behind where Biden was four years ago.

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Four years ago, Biden was five point eight percent up

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>over Trump in the national polls. Harris is less than

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:07.960
<v Speaker 1>two at one point seven. So we still don't have

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:10.480
<v Speaker 1>no idea what's about to happen in this election. But

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Harris on the overall picture not doing as well as

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 1>her media boosters would say. But again, most of the

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 1>poles that have rolled in since the debate are starting

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 1>to go her way. We'll all find out what happens.

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>We'll be in America. But love this country even when

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 1>we're over there. So let's talk about this country. Let's

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 1>debate in this country. We'll get into it. Into it

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 1>next with Joe Hildebrand, Holly Hughes. We want to see

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 1>kill on Paul Murray live Niger for us before we

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 1>don't thank you very much for what giga. Let us

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 1>get into this now. In other than Joe hoilder Brand.

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 1>You can read, you can write to him, you can

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>see him, you can listen to him, lots of different ways.

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 1>The wand of a Holly hughes, of course, and he

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>said while Senator joining us from camber, because she's still

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 1>sitting even though the downstairs people aren't. So the Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Minister is a double disillusion because he may not get

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 1>what he wants when it comes to the housing funds.

0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 1>But of course that's because the economy going amazing. No

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 1>one's got a problem with him. Literally tonight the former acy,

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 1>a hero of the union movement, and the CEOs are

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 1>telling him there's a problem. It's more expensive than even

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 1>before the pandemic to build a house, let alone all

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>of the other issues that mean that currently fifty three

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 1>percent of people think the premise is doing a poor

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 1>or very poor job, and fifty seven percent of people

0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 1>can't name a single thing that's made their life better.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, no, bring on a double d.

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<v Speaker 9>It's just ludicrous because if you actually sit down and

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 9>do the math of what's required for a double dissolution,

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 9>and that's the second defeate of a bill after three

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 9>months and then six months before the next elections due,

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 9>he would actually have to recall Parliament in order to

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 9>put a bill he would know would fail in order

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 9>to generate the trigger for a double dissolution. It is

0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:59.320
<v Speaker 9>just insanity on steroids. It is an absolute rabble in

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 9>the Senate this week. They've turned up for a Senate

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 9>only sitting week, put up their build to own or

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 9>helping build, whatever it's called. It's just the most pathetic

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 9>bill that no one in the Chamber is supporting, like

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 9>no one except labor, and they.

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 10>Are behaving like petulant children.

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 9>It's now two days into a four day sitting week

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:25.200
<v Speaker 9>and we haven't even got to a committee stage of

0:33:25.240 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 9>this bill. It's just going nowhere and nowhere incredibly fast.

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 9>And you know this is a government unraveling day by day.

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Joe again, the Prime Minister, or no doubt the people

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 1>around him, may go, oh wos you sort of talked

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 1>into it by the press conference and all the rest

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 1>of it year, but there seems to be Look, there

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 1>is an obvious imparty here where the Greens wanted to

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 1>fail because they want to go on the written to question,

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 1>particularly in Southeast queensline that lives wanted to fail because

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>they disagree with that the year size, the cost of

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 1>the policy lit alone, anything else. So I mean, does

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 1>he actually think that anyone said around a barbecue is

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 1>going to be convinced by his plot as a reason

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 1>for us to go to have it a lynch?

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<v Speaker 11>Oh, he's not going to go to a double day,

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 11>and there's no way he would. There's no reason he

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 11>would tactically or logistically. Holly's quite right, it would be

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 11>all but impossible. He wants to go to an election.

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:17.719
<v Speaker 11>I am sure, and I'm not repeating anything he's told me,

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 11>but I have no doubt I've said this all along.

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 11>It is clear as the nose on your face that

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 11>the best chance of Labor getting re elected with the

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 11>majority is giving the Reserve Bank as much time as

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:32.839
<v Speaker 11>possible to start cutting interest rates so that people think

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 11>that the future is going to get better, they forget

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 11>the lean years of the past, and Albaneze can say

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 11>the end of all this, see I did it, I've

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 11>gone full term. I haven't done it. People don't like

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:46.439
<v Speaker 11>early elections in Australia. Generally, they almost always backfire. Bob

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:49.360
<v Speaker 11>Hawk in nine eighty four was a pretty good example

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 11>and exactly right. So he goes full term, he says,

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:54.759
<v Speaker 11>I've always said I was going to go full term.

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 11>I've done that. The RBA is almost certainly going to

0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 11>cut interest rates touch wood in the first half next year.

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 11>So he goes in April May and away you go.

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 11>I think he's simply keeping everyone on their tires. And

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 11>I think he's been doing this quite effectively all year.

0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:11.839
<v Speaker 11>You've had people making all sorts of predictions. We're meant

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 11>to be in the middle of an election campaign now,

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 11>it's not already having gone to the polls according to

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 11>some predictions, and so he's got everyone sort of up

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 11>in a ladder whilst he's still just quietly plotting a

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:22.319
<v Speaker 11>long game.

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 1>That's very kind of you. Let's talk here about what's

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:27.919
<v Speaker 1>happening with victory you're doing. He's doing his best world

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:32.319
<v Speaker 1>I'd get that before. I've been there before. Don't worry now.

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Of course, one of the keys, apparently the Liverboo part

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 1>of getting even close now again, I think the analysis

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:40.279
<v Speaker 1>that has been discussed from the former Labor senator from

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Queensland is a little too favorable to the coalition, but

0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 1>it's the one that suggests that there could be a

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 1>minority government either direction. For that to happen, something pretty

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 1>significant has to happen in Victoria. Now, the expectations were

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:55.919
<v Speaker 1>that a very significant number of seats that Pete Dutton

0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 1>would require would come from there. The analysis and beliefs

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 1>seemed to be Andrew's effect doesn't really matter anymore. But

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 1>whether there's a crossover, we'll all wait and see. Now,

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I get it, Holly, you are not from Victoria, but

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>you know plenty of people from there inside the political world.

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Why would there be a sense of hope amongst Victorian

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:18.840
<v Speaker 1>liberals that federal seats that they've lost are about to

0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 1>come back their way when we know what the advertising

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:25.080
<v Speaker 1>is going to be, black and white pictures of Peter Dutton,

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:28.360
<v Speaker 1>the cop from Queensland or uga booger vote labor.

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:32.960
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I read that article today too.

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 9>I mean, I guess the first thing they'd be hoping

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:39.799
<v Speaker 9>is that their organizational wing and their state parliamentary team

0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:44.399
<v Speaker 9>keep their mouths shut, stop recording each other stuff up

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 9>Light New South Wales Division did of the Liberal party.

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 9>I mean, they are just the king of own goals,

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:56.400
<v Speaker 9>and Victoria hasn't exactly been a shining light of great

0:36:56.480 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 9>liberal groundbreaking efforts. So I think they'd be hope that

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 9>this whole pursuito deeming issue goes away pretty quickly and

0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 9>that the state team shuts up get some good candidates.

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 9>I know, people like Tim Wilson have been working really

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 9>hard for a long time. There's also a number of

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 9>Tials down there who not only are they not delivering,

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 9>but they're consistently voting with the Greens and Labor at

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:27.279
<v Speaker 9>every opportunity. So the reality is, and everyone's predicting this,

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:29.960
<v Speaker 9>that we're going to go to some form of minority government.

0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 9>That is almost the worst outcome for the country, I

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:36.760
<v Speaker 9>think any of us can imagine. I think the only

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 9>thing worse than just a blanket minority government is minority

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:43.840
<v Speaker 9>government with this Labor government in partnership with the Greens.

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:48.480
<v Speaker 9>And you can see and again lining himself up. Now, well,

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 9>the Teals will be trying to get out of it

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 9>what they can, but the Tials have proven that they

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:58.360
<v Speaker 9>are just a vacuous waste of space. They achieve nothing.

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:01.799
<v Speaker 9>They're one issue, climate change, I mean, this is how

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 9>politically savvy these people are. They literally came in pretty

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 9>much week one or two of this government and got

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 9>their climate change you know, emissions target in legislation and

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:17.920
<v Speaker 9>lost their only issue. It was literally their only issue,

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:20.440
<v Speaker 9>and they gave it away within the first couple of

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:21.800
<v Speaker 9>weeks of the parliament.

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:24.400
<v Speaker 10>And don't forget though, they are just nothing.

0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well they're also now pretending that it's about twenty

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 1>thirty five targets and there's this seventy five percent, which

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:31.240
<v Speaker 1>of course.

0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:35.319
<v Speaker 9>Is climate change is not anywhere only about climate change is.

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:36.439
<v Speaker 10>Not anywhere where.

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:39.399
<v Speaker 9>It was because people can't afford the rent, they can't

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 9>afford the mortgage, they can't afford the groceries, they can't

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:45.279
<v Speaker 9>afford their power bills, and the power bills in particularly

0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:49.160
<v Speaker 9>are being reinforced by this ridiculous race to renewables that

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 9>this government, along with the teals and the grains, is

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:53.120
<v Speaker 9>consistently chasing.

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<v Speaker 1>Singing Sister Joe, you wrote about council and how local

0:38:57.160 --> 0:39:00.360
<v Speaker 1>councils it's all now not roads rates, rubbish, little bit

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 1>of g hard and a lot of other weirdness that

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:04.320
<v Speaker 1>goes into Yeah, but I wanted to come at it

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 1>from a different angle. How do you think council lost

0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:10.319
<v Speaker 1>its way? Because the processes is exactly the same way.

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:12.840
<v Speaker 1>People put their hand up, and normally the overly earnest

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 1>put their hand up, they get in the room. But

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:18.440
<v Speaker 1>what was it about out the way our politics works

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 1>now that a council, that a counselor would feel that

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 1>there's greater political benefit to them and mouthing off about

0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 1>something they have no responsibility for.

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:31.719
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, it's an interesting one. There were sort of two

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 11>tiers to that campaign. So you had a couple of

0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:38.640
<v Speaker 11>councilors in the southwest of Sydney who are very vocal

0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:40.560
<v Speaker 11>about it and Canoby Banks down And I was speaking

0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:43.760
<v Speaker 11>to someone about that from the area just earlier today

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:47.839
<v Speaker 11>and he noted that the people who took a really

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 11>strident line on Palestine instead of worrying about Rhodes rates

0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:55.279
<v Speaker 11>and rubbish or went backwards, and they went backwards to

0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:59.319
<v Speaker 11>the advantage not of Labor sadly or the Greens, which

0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 11>is not said at all, but to the center right.

0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:04.919
<v Speaker 11>So they're basically giving giving votes away to the right.

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:07.880
<v Speaker 11>So people were voting against that and voting for people

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:09.320
<v Speaker 11>who were solely focused.

0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 1>On roads, get back to base.

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:14.400
<v Speaker 11>Votes, raids and rubbish, and again to what's happening to

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:17.399
<v Speaker 11>the Teals. Potentially at the next federal election. We saw

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:21.280
<v Speaker 11>a massive swing against the Greens in places like Wullara

0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:23.279
<v Speaker 11>and Waveland, the East and sub of Sydney, which have

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:27.279
<v Speaker 11>high Jewish populations but also sort of high kind of

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:30.279
<v Speaker 11>you know, genteel populations who often have the luxury to

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:33.040
<v Speaker 11>be able to wax lyrical about things like climate change,

0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 11>but don't like all the class warfare talk and certainly

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 11>rankle at this idea that you know, this should be

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:41.879
<v Speaker 11>a referendum on a so called genocide on the other

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 11>side of the world.

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 1>And so so.

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<v Speaker 11>Again, I think the Greens firstly, and then the Teals,

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 11>who are very much Greens adjacent, will suffer as a

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:53.880
<v Speaker 11>result of that. And you can see the Teals running

0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:55.840
<v Speaker 11>away from the Palestinian issue.

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:56.880
<v Speaker 1>At a rate of nots.

0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:00.319
<v Speaker 11>They're so high and mighty about absolutely everything else.

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 1>They wait for one the start.

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 11>That's why absolutely they did. You know, that's right, But

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:06.839
<v Speaker 11>you know, the one sort of cause djure. You know,

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 11>there's not a fashionable cause. They haven't hitched their wagon too,

0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:11.799
<v Speaker 11>but this one they're just trying to say oh no.

0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:14.040
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, no no, And but also they

0:41:14.040 --> 0:41:16.279
<v Speaker 1>will play out. But also you know, to my point,

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll do ours solves tomorrow so we can proper chat

0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:20.799
<v Speaker 1>about it. But Holly, to my point at the start

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:23.759
<v Speaker 1>of the show though, which is, you know, the Libertarian

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Party was able to jump into a vacuum of the

0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Liberal Party created. But if you want to produce a

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:32.280
<v Speaker 1>future state or federal members of Parliament, run them at council,

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:36.200
<v Speaker 1>build a community profile. So guess what, it helps them

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 1>win elections. That's why council matters funny in the political

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 1>sense of things. And I think anyone who doesn't want

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:45.440
<v Speaker 1>to play at that level, you're doing yourself a disservice

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:47.560
<v Speaker 1>because if you want to start at the Senate every

0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 1>single time, guess what everyone else is running and all

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:53.240
<v Speaker 1>the media is paying attention to the to almost anyone,

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 1>but you.

0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 9>Look, and I think where this one council election in

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 9>particular is important. We are you know, we're here in

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:04.920
<v Speaker 9>the Senate this week around a housing bill. We know

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:07.920
<v Speaker 9>in New South Wales Chris Mins has been looking at

0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:12.920
<v Speaker 9>a whole raft of different type of supply issues around

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 9>housing in sort of that inner City and inner Sydney

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:21.920
<v Speaker 9>Metropolitan area, and how they get more housing into different suburbs,

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 9>particularly near public transport lines. And this is where councils

0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:29.120
<v Speaker 9>have a really big role to play. And instead of

0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 9>having people that will be able to have sensible discussions,

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 9>maybe have a look at a different suggestions.

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:37.239
<v Speaker 10>And what the planning is going to look like.

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 9>You're going to have some of these complete and utter

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:44.759
<v Speaker 9>loans in there who have no clue whatsoever. And it's

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:47.440
<v Speaker 9>interesting that in a lot of council areas where Liberals

0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:49.000
<v Speaker 9>did run, they did really well.

0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:50.320
<v Speaker 10>They did really well.

0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Which only compounds I'm going to jump. Thanks you guys,

0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:58.920
<v Speaker 1>do appreciated, Senator, future senator. Thank you very much. We'll

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 1>see you all very soon. Narjo far standing by in

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 1>the UK, will talk to him about a whole bunch

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 1>of things, including his own television career, which authorities are

0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to shut down. Yeah, seriously, more honesty. I love

0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 1>when we talked to Nigel Farage, of course, the Reform

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Party MP leader and host on gb News, and our

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 1>friend in the old Dartney joins us. Now, great man,

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:27.440
<v Speaker 1>can you believe the second time, the second time this year,

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about somebody almost killing Donald Trump the second

0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:33.640
<v Speaker 1>time around, the media seeming to or not really wanted to, like,

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:37.759
<v Speaker 1>unless it literally is shots hitting his body, then it

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because that could produce sympathy,

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:46.720
<v Speaker 1>and sympathy equals votes. What do you think of what's happened? Yeah, horrible?

0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 8>Ally, why it's really horrible because Mara l Argo and

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:53.239
<v Speaker 8>the golf course just down the road, they are his

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:58.480
<v Speaker 8>real safe spaces. That is where he is surrounded by friends,

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:02.360
<v Speaker 8>by family. That is where he's able to be himself

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:06.800
<v Speaker 8>and to pursue his absolute fanatical love affair with the

0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:10.880
<v Speaker 8>game of golf, which is undiminished in every way. And

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:14.240
<v Speaker 8>if he can't even be in his own backyard without

0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:17.440
<v Speaker 8>somebody coming after him with a gun, then that is

0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:21.319
<v Speaker 8>a truly awful situation for him to be in. You know,

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:23.839
<v Speaker 8>during my last general election, I was attacked. I had

0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:26.759
<v Speaker 8>a milkshake thrown in my face, I had a bag

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:29.879
<v Speaker 8>of sment thrown at me, and you know it made

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:34.160
<v Speaker 8>me thoughtful, let alone someone firing a gun at you.

0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:36.719
<v Speaker 8>So I did ring him yesterday. I did ring him

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 8>last night just to see how he was. And hey,

0:44:41.640 --> 0:44:43.440
<v Speaker 8>you know he was putting a brave face on it.

0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 8>He was saying a secret service did a great job.

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:49.560
<v Speaker 8>But underneath he's got to be waking up this morning

0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:52.840
<v Speaker 8>saying to himself, just how many times can.

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:53.280
<v Speaker 1>I be lucky?

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 8>So something BIG's got to happen. And let's at least

0:44:57.160 --> 0:45:01.120
<v Speaker 8>for once praise Joe Biden, who did ring yesterday as well,

0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:06.440
<v Speaker 8>and the Speaker. The Speaker Mike Johnson is now going

0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 8>to change the security arrangements for both Donald Trump and

0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 8>Kamala Harris so that they have the same level of

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:17.280
<v Speaker 8>protection that a setting president has not before time.

0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Some will say, well, yeah, my view is that the

0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 1>second you are formally nominated. I know that that's when

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:26.440
<v Speaker 1>the briefings begin and you know, a couple of extra

0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:29.279
<v Speaker 1>things start to go. In the current era and in

0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:31.360
<v Speaker 1>all future eras, it should go straight up to that

0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 1>presidential level, because these are one of the only two

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:38.960
<v Speaker 1>plausible next presidents of the United States. Also, I've got

0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:41.279
<v Speaker 1>to say, and you know, I got quite fine up

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 1>about it last night, that I was legitimately inspired by

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:49.280
<v Speaker 1>the fight fight fight stuff in that moment the first

0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:55.160
<v Speaker 1>time around. I'm again you cannot but remark with admiration

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:58.240
<v Speaker 1>that Oh look, I just wish I could finish the whole.

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:00.959
<v Speaker 1>I mean, in a culture of victim wood, when something

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 1>terrible happens to someone, they go and hide in a corner,

0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:05.840
<v Speaker 1>or they talk about it for the rest of their lives.

0:46:06.280 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 8>He barrels on. Well more than that, there's been in

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:14.440
<v Speaker 8>the last fifteen minutes. I've just seen a statement from

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 8>the man he was playing golf with, and the guy said,

0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:20.320
<v Speaker 8>when shots rang out and they were told to get out,

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:23.840
<v Speaker 8>he said, Trump showed more concern for me than he

0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:27.480
<v Speaker 8>did for himself, he said, and he showed me just

0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:31.479
<v Speaker 8>what a tremendously courageous man and leader he is. So Yeah,

0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:34.600
<v Speaker 8>once again, in a very tight situation where many would

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:37.480
<v Speaker 8>have run away screaming, he shows himself to be the

0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:39.719
<v Speaker 8>man that to be the man, to be honest Paul

0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:42.920
<v Speaker 8>that I've always believed that he is. I've always believed

0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:45.920
<v Speaker 8>that this guy had some very very special qualities.

0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm with you now, before we're done your show,

0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:52.640
<v Speaker 1>GiB News. You are the biggest star on the Disruptor

0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 1>channel and they hate it. They hated all right, and

0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:58.000
<v Speaker 1>by day of course, I mean everyone outside of the building.

0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:01.080
<v Speaker 1>But again, there's more force is trying to push you

0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:04.880
<v Speaker 1>off the ear, not just the channel.

0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:08.560
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, we've got a new committee's being formed in the

0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:12.120
<v Speaker 8>House of Commons, fourteen members, nine of them Labor. The

0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:15.439
<v Speaker 8>leader of the House of Commons unusually is sharing this committee.

0:47:15.560 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 8>They're worried about MP's second jobs. Well, what they're really

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 8>worried about, if you read the report, is MPs who

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:27.440
<v Speaker 8>broadcast on television and radio because it could present a

0:47:27.640 --> 0:47:31.520
<v Speaker 8>conflict of interests, and so what you can see is

0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:34.840
<v Speaker 8>they will get together with the regulator and tranforce me

0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:38.840
<v Speaker 8>off air. This is aimed at me, fair and square

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 8>at me. I would argue that with the GM and

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:45.480
<v Speaker 8>News show and with over five million social media followers,

0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 8>what I do is amplify the debates that are taking

0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:52.200
<v Speaker 8>place within the House of Commons. I would argue what

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 8>I'm doing actually is an extension of the democratic process.

0:47:57.040 --> 0:47:59.799
<v Speaker 8>So clearly they're coming after me, but do you know what,

0:48:00.520 --> 0:48:02.799
<v Speaker 8>over the years, a lot of people have come after

0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:03.400
<v Speaker 8>me and lost.

0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was gonna say, I wouldn't back the I

0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:09.560
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't back the horse that's going up against you. In mate.

0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much for your time. Good on you

0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:13.359
<v Speaker 1>for the fight. Keep at it. We love seeing your

0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:16.600
<v Speaker 1>mate all the best. Thank you mate. There is NAGA

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:18.799
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