Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to the Matiwheny Podcast with me
Speaker 1: Joshua Fox. So last night we watched Morena storm into
Speaker 1: the commitment ceremony after it had already started. She had
Speaker 1: her say with Tony. She wrote leave, and then she
Speaker 1: immediately stormed back out and well, yeah, packed her bags
Speaker 1: and went home to Melbourne before she stormed in though
Speaker 1: the experts had no idea where she was. Tony had
Speaker 1: no idea where she was. No one had any idea
Speaker 1: where Morena was. And then boom, the door opens and
Speaker 1: in she comes. As Tony was sat on the sofa
Speaker 1: all alone, like, listen to this.
Speaker 2: Did you really think I wasn't going to come? Did
Speaker 2: you really think I was going to give him the
Speaker 2: last word?
Speaker 1: No, don't stand up and talk to me.
Speaker 2: Don't stand up.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that whole scene, that perfectly time rival all
Speaker 1: completely set up. Vera actually made a secret deal with
Speaker 1: the producers beforehand, which the experts also knew about because
Speaker 1: they were told beforehand exactly how they had to act
Speaker 1: once she did walk in. During my recent interview with Marena,
Speaker 1: which some of you may remember, she told me how
Speaker 1: as the rest of the cast left to go film
Speaker 1: that commitment ceremony. She basically just locked the door and said, nah,
Speaker 1: I'm not going I'm not going to be set up
Speaker 1: any longer. I don't want to go home right now.
Speaker 1: But the producer said to her, no, Marena, you won't
Speaker 1: be doing that. Sorry, like listen to this year.
Speaker 2: Because the last commitment ceremony I didn't go. I was
Speaker 2: in my room. They were on the phone. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: I had all this attention that I haven't had for
Speaker 2: the whole show, and I said to them, I'm going
Speaker 2: to call trip below. You holding me against my will.
Speaker 2: This stops, This stops today. That's when I said, Okay,
Speaker 2: she's really going to do it. I should have just
Speaker 2: done it, in hindsight, should have should have. Instead, they
Speaker 2: wound me up and they said, look, we know you.
Speaker 2: You have had a good run with him. So they said,
Speaker 2: all right, let's plan this. We'll let you come on sit,
Speaker 2: you can make this grand entry. And I promise this
Speaker 2: came out of Alex's mouth. I promise that the experts
Speaker 2: will not give you a heart Tom. I said, really,
Speaker 2: because they've given me a hard time on every commitment ceremony,
Speaker 2: every single commitment ceremary they have given it to me.
Speaker 2: So they said, no, they're not going to talk, and
Speaker 2: guess what, they didn't talk.
Speaker 1: Now, regardless of what you personally think about Marena or
Speaker 1: whatever you know based off what you've seen on the show,
Speaker 1: you've gotta remember that by this point, this is a
Speaker 1: woman that just wants to go home because she's over
Speaker 1: the fact that she'd been matched with a bloke she
Speaker 1: found out was still legally married to his ex. She
Speaker 1: believed that he was still in love with his ex,
Speaker 1: and you know, for weeks she'd been saying he doesn't
Speaker 1: like me because I'm too old for him, which he denied.
Speaker 1: But then out of nowhere, he turns around and says,
Speaker 1: Marina can't give me the one thing, and I want
Speaker 1: a child, So like, I get why, she was just like, nah,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing any more things. I am going this
Speaker 1: is now. Marina explained to me what happened after she
Speaker 1: left the commitment ceremony last night.
Speaker 2: So I stormed into the commitment ceremony and I absolutely
Speaker 2: gave it to Tony, gave it to him. Then I
Speaker 2: left because I said I'm not staying for the rest
Speaker 2: of the shit show. So Tony had to go back
Speaker 2: and sit he was very upset. Why does she get
Speaker 2: to go back? Well, it was pre arranged. That's what
Speaker 2: they do on this show.
Speaker 1: They pre arranged you went back to pack your bags.
Speaker 2: I went back to pack my bags, and the next
Speaker 2: day they producers, you ought to be ashamed of yourselves,
Speaker 2: but that's okay. You've got to live with what you've done.
Speaker 2: They accompany me to the lift because there's always a
Speaker 2: guard at the lift, because you know, you can't, you can't,
Speaker 2: God forbid, if you want to, you know, go out
Speaker 2: to go and get a coffee. So that day when
Speaker 2: I left with my four bags. Anyway, we get to
Speaker 2: the lift on the day that I was leaving, open
Speaker 2: the lift and they just go bye bye, and I
Speaker 2: just went what.
Speaker 1: No, I've said this before and I'll say it again
Speaker 1: here now. The way Morena left that show was unheard of.
Speaker 1: My friends were outside paparazzi and they got pictures of
Speaker 1: her just struggling with all her bags. She was ordering
Speaker 1: her own car. It was a mess. Usually, like the
Speaker 1: producers will hide them. They after there's a whole sequence.
Speaker 1: They have to leave via the underground exit, so you
Speaker 1: know there's no spoiler pictures taken. But as Morena said,
Speaker 1: she would just kind of waved goodbye, and they watched
Speaker 1: her struggle alone. They watched her sit emotional on the street,
Speaker 1: surrounded by her bags alone, and yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: like this. It was weird. It was a weird ending
Speaker 1: to I suppose an uncomfortable storyline. Since my first interview
Speaker 1: with Moreno, actually I've seen a lot of confusion of
Speaker 1: people claiming why was she never allowed to leave? You know,
Speaker 1: she had to threaten the police when Tony was able
Speaker 1: to go home. At the weekend, some cast members, you know,
Speaker 1: go out drinking together. And my understanding of this from
Speaker 1: speaking to multiple cast members is if you're someone like
Speaker 1: Tony who's never really you know, caused any trouble, caused
Speaker 1: the scene, you're kind of there. You do as you told,
Speaker 1: You show up when you're told you have to film.
Speaker 1: If he says, hey this week and I want to
Speaker 1: drive in our south back, you know, back home to Woollongong,
Speaker 1: they'll go, yeah, no worries because they know he's going
Speaker 1: to return. They know he's going to stay in line.
Speaker 1: But then if you're Marena, going I want to leave,
Speaker 1: let me leave right now, and they you know, and
Speaker 1: they know she's not going to come back. That's when
Speaker 1: it gets a bit difficult behind the scenes, because producers
Speaker 1: can't just say okay, bye, because then they can't wrap
Speaker 1: the storyline up on the show. So Marena threatened into
Speaker 1: phone the police. I fully believe she did that, and
Speaker 1: I believe she felt she was being held against her
Speaker 1: will because if they did just let her leave when
Speaker 1: she wanted to leave, how would they have ended that
Speaker 1: on the show. They won't have been able to because
Speaker 1: she'd be gone anyway. I'm not even shot. I'm saying
Speaker 1: I've not wrote a script for this. I just, you know,
Speaker 1: watched last night's episode and remember these points from my interview,
Speaker 1: which felt relevant today, maybe a bit more light on
Speaker 1: how things work behind the scenes. I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: going to go now, though, Have a lovely day.