WEBVTT - Morena's Secret Deal With Producers... Was She Really 'Held Against Her Will'?

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome back to the Matiwheny Podcast with me

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<v Speaker 1>Joshua Fox. So last night we watched Morena storm into

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<v Speaker 1>the commitment ceremony after it had already started. She had

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<v Speaker 1>her say with Tony. She wrote leave, and then she

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<v Speaker 1>immediately stormed back out and well, yeah, packed her bags

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<v Speaker 1>and went home to Melbourne before she stormed in though

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<v Speaker 1>the experts had no idea where she was. Tony had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea where she was. No one had any idea

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<v Speaker 1>where Morena was. And then boom, the door opens and

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<v Speaker 1>in she comes. As Tony was sat on the sofa

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<v Speaker 1>all alone, like, listen to this.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you really think I wasn't going to come? Did

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<v Speaker 2>you really think I was going to give him the

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<v Speaker 2>last word?

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<v Speaker 1>No, don't stand up and talk to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't stand up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So that whole scene, that perfectly time rival all

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<v Speaker 1>completely set up. Vera actually made a secret deal with

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<v Speaker 1>the producers beforehand, which the experts also knew about because

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<v Speaker 1>they were told beforehand exactly how they had to act

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<v Speaker 1>once she did walk in. During my recent interview with Marena,

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<v Speaker 1>which some of you may remember, she told me how

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<v Speaker 1>as the rest of the cast left to go film

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<v Speaker 1>that commitment ceremony. She basically just locked the door and said, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going I'm not going to be set up

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<v Speaker 1>any longer. I don't want to go home right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But the producer said to her, no, Marena, you won't

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<v Speaker 1>be doing that. Sorry, like listen to this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the last commitment ceremony I didn't go. I was

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<v Speaker 2>in my room. They were on the phone. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>I had all this attention that I haven't had for

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<v Speaker 2>the whole show, and I said to them, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to call trip below. You holding me against my will.

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<v Speaker 2>This stops, This stops today. That's when I said, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>she's really going to do it. I should have just

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<v Speaker 2>done it, in hindsight, should have should have. Instead, they

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<v Speaker 2>wound me up and they said, look, we know you.

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<v Speaker 2>You have had a good run with him. So they said,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, let's plan this. We'll let you come on sit,

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<v Speaker 2>you can make this grand entry. And I promise this

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<v Speaker 2>came out of Alex's mouth. I promise that the experts

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<v Speaker 2>will not give you a heart Tom. I said, really,

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<v Speaker 2>because they've given me a hard time on every commitment ceremony,

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<v Speaker 2>every single commitment ceremary they have given it to me.

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<v Speaker 2>So they said, no, they're not going to talk, and

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<v Speaker 2>guess what, they didn't talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, regardless of what you personally think about Marena or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you know based off what you've seen on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>you've gotta remember that by this point, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>woman that just wants to go home because she's over

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that she'd been matched with a bloke she

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<v Speaker 1>found out was still legally married to his ex. She

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<v Speaker 1>believed that he was still in love with his ex,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, for weeks she'd been saying he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>like me because I'm too old for him, which he denied.

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<v Speaker 1>But then out of nowhere, he turns around and says,

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<v Speaker 1>Marina can't give me the one thing, and I want

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<v Speaker 1>a child, So like, I get why, she was just like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing any more things. I am going this

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<v Speaker 1>is now. Marina explained to me what happened after she

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<v Speaker 1>left the commitment ceremony last night.

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<v Speaker 2>So I stormed into the commitment ceremony and I absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>gave it to Tony, gave it to him. Then I

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<v Speaker 2>left because I said I'm not staying for the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the shit show. So Tony had to go back

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<v Speaker 2>and sit he was very upset. Why does she get

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<v Speaker 2>to go back? Well, it was pre arranged. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>they do on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>They pre arranged you went back to pack your bags.

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<v Speaker 2>I went back to pack my bags, and the next

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<v Speaker 2>day they producers, you ought to be ashamed of yourselves,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's okay. You've got to live with what you've done.

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<v Speaker 2>They accompany me to the lift because there's always a

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<v Speaker 2>guard at the lift, because you know, you can't, you can't,

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<v Speaker 2>God forbid, if you want to, you know, go out

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<v Speaker 2>to go and get a coffee. So that day when

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<v Speaker 2>I left with my four bags. Anyway, we get to

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<v Speaker 2>the lift on the day that I was leaving, open

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<v Speaker 2>the lift and they just go bye bye, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just went what.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I've said this before and I'll say it again

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<v Speaker 1>here now. The way Morena left that show was unheard of.

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<v Speaker 1>My friends were outside paparazzi and they got pictures of

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<v Speaker 1>her just struggling with all her bags. She was ordering

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<v Speaker 1>her own car. It was a mess. Usually, like the

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<v Speaker 1>producers will hide them. They after there's a whole sequence.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to leave via the underground exit, so you

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<v Speaker 1>know there's no spoiler pictures taken. But as Morena said,

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<v Speaker 1>she would just kind of waved goodbye, and they watched

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<v Speaker 1>her struggle alone. They watched her sit emotional on the street,

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<v Speaker 1>surrounded by her bags alone, and yeah, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>like this. It was weird. It was a weird ending

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<v Speaker 1>to I suppose an uncomfortable storyline. Since my first interview

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<v Speaker 1>with Moreno, actually I've seen a lot of confusion of

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<v Speaker 1>people claiming why was she never allowed to leave? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>she had to threaten the police when Tony was able

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<v Speaker 1>to go home. At the weekend, some cast members, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>go out drinking together. And my understanding of this from

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<v Speaker 1>speaking to multiple cast members is if you're someone like

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<v Speaker 1>Tony who's never really you know, caused any trouble, caused

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<v Speaker 1>the scene, you're kind of there. You do as you told,

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<v Speaker 1>You show up when you're told you have to film.

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<v Speaker 1>If he says, hey this week and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>drive in our south back, you know, back home to Woollongong,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll go, yeah, no worries because they know he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to return. They know he's going to stay in line.

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<v Speaker 1>But then if you're Marena, going I want to leave,

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<v Speaker 1>let me leave right now, and they you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>they know she's not going to come back. That's when

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<v Speaker 1>it gets a bit difficult behind the scenes, because producers

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<v Speaker 1>can't just say okay, bye, because then they can't wrap

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<v Speaker 1>the storyline up on the show. So Marena threatened into

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<v Speaker 1>phone the police. I fully believe she did that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I believe she felt she was being held against her

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<v Speaker 1>will because if they did just let her leave when

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<v Speaker 1>she wanted to leave, how would they have ended that

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. They won't have been able to because

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<v Speaker 1>she'd be gone anyway. I'm not even shot. I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>I've not wrote a script for this. I just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>watched last night's episode and remember these points from my interview,

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<v Speaker 1>which felt relevant today, maybe a bit more light on

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<v Speaker 1>how things work behind the scenes. I don't know. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to go now, though, Have a lovely day.