1 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to an l three sixty year rugby league from 2 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: every angle, Joman of the Great Gordon Tallis. It's bring 3 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: the Journal Australian Paul Crawley and James Hooper and his 4 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: Origin Eve and we have breaking news from the great 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Bulldog Richie. Stephen Crichton has been cleared to play. So 6 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: good news for New South Wales and their fans he 7 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: will take the field tomorrow night. And good news for 8 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: Queensland or not. 9 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: Ah well, it all depends if he's got any sort 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: of injury and didn't do the captains run. It's and 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: Stephen Crichton not one hundred percent, that's better for Queensland 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 2: than Stephen Crichton. 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: At one hundred percent. 14 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm happy with this. 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 3: You can't play Origin if you're not one hundred percent okay. 16 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 4: I don't think you would play Origin unless he feel 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 4: he could get through the game and at his best. 18 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 4: He's just about the most inspirational player of the game. 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 4: Like look what he did a few weeks ago again 20 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 4: in the second half against Canberra. That's what he's capable of. 21 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 4: He has been the biggest single factor in the Bulldogs 22 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 4: leading the premiership this year. 23 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 5: He's a massive in. 24 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 6: It'd be devastating for New South Wales. As good a 25 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 6: player as Campbell Graham is to have had the preparation 26 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 6: that they have and then lose Stephen Crichton in the 27 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 6: final twenty four hours would be a cruel blow. 28 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 7: So that's a big gin. 29 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: He's a beast and a big game player. We've seen 30 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: that in Grand Finals, We've seen it at the Origin level. 31 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: He just gets it done. His defense is amazing and 32 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: his attack he's got some special He's got the X factor. 33 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: You know, he can create something out of nothing. He's 34 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: done it for Canterbury. He's done on all levels and 35 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: even at eighty ninety percent, I'm happy with him in 36 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: that team. Now, it's been forty eight hours since Galvin's 37 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: camp decided he was going to the Bulldogs. What's the 38 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: hold up that though? Why hasn't he signed or officially 39 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: agreed to Turms? Do we know? 40 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 6: Is it going to be close or I think it's close. 41 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 6: I think it definitely happens this week. But for whatever reason, 42 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 6: I think maybe the agent likes a little bit of 43 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 6: power and control games, so that could be why the 44 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 6: handbrake's just been pulled slightly. 45 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 7: But I think it will happen across. 46 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's look how many clubs at this time of 47 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 4: the year have this sort of money sitting there just 48 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 4: waiting for someone to come along like Gust That had 49 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 4: only happened in the last week. 50 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 5: So I'd imagine it takes a little bit time to plan. 51 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: I think you shuffling at the decks a little bit. 52 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 5: Oh well, who knows. 53 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 4: Like if you're a cynic, which I am, you listen 54 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 4: to Guss's denials about this for months, and you look 55 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 4: at all the evidence that all along, going back to 56 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 4: last August, indicated that there was a love affair here, 57 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 4: that he wanted him at the Bulldogs, and it's almost 58 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 4: like this has been manipulated to occur over a period 59 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 4: of time, And even recently Guss did say in one 60 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: of his podcasts that he didn't think that Stephen sorry 61 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 4: Lachlan Galvin could stay at the Tigers, and so you know, 62 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 4: and then we're led to believe this has all happened 63 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 4: when the goalpost changed a few days ago. 64 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: Really does that come down? 65 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 5: Did we come down to the last shower? 66 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: But is that good business if you're running a club 67 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: like the Dogs and you're keeping them off the scent. 68 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 5: Well, Gordon, it is. 69 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: It is. 70 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 4: But he also has an obligation to everyone who watches 71 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 4: his programs and listens to what he says to at 72 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 4: least give him an indication of what the truth is, 73 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 4: and we see it here on this table. 74 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: Breath. 75 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 4: You're often put in a position where you have to 76 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 4: comment about players that you manage, and you don't sit 77 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 4: there and try and lead us astray. There may be 78 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 4: some things that you can't talk about God, but you 79 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 4: also have to give an honest insight into where you 80 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 4: stand as a commentator. 81 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 6: I think where the lions get blurred around us is 82 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 6: and this is what agitates and infuriates rival clubs. No 83 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 6: when they're all blowing up at the moment they've all 84 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 6: been at head office at Andrew Abdahen Peter Lany's that 85 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 6: he is highly paid as the face or one of 86 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 6: the faces of Channel nine, and then he's also highly 87 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 6: paid as the general manager. 88 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 7: Of football of the Bulldogs. 89 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,559 Speaker 6: And in his running commentary on lockey Galvin it's now 90 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 6: clear in the fullness of time that it doesn't appear 91 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 6: as though he's been transparent the entire time he's at 92 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 6: the Bowl. The flipper and the doucer and the slider 93 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,799 Speaker 6: and everything else. At stages, he's got the outcome he wants. 94 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 6: It's the best result for the Bulldogs. 95 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: He suggested last night that it was unfair that he 96 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: had to answer the cliff. 97 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 6: It's unfair, then don't cop a million a year off 98 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 6: Channel nine. So if you don't want the money off 99 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 6: Channel nine, that's fine, But otherwise you are going to 100 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 6: have to sit on that panel and you are going 101 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 6: to have to at times answer questions from reporters. 102 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: What do we make of his explanation last night and 103 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: that going to tie with Chemis, it was pretty confrontational, 104 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: and Chemis he held his gloves up. What did you 105 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: guys think of it? 106 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 5: Chemist did his job? He for once. 107 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 4: Gus was he was he was put to the sword, 108 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 4: he was questioned. 109 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 5: I thought he looked nervous. I thought he looked. 110 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 4: Anxious about his responses, you know, like he can say 111 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 4: until he's blue in the face that this has all 112 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 4: happened in recent days since Galvin was given permission to 113 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 4: talk to other clubs. But I think the NRRUL, as 114 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 4: the governing body of our game, owe it to the 115 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,559 Speaker 4: other clubs. You talk about the other clubs. I think 116 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 4: we have rules in place, and I'm not accusing Gus 117 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 4: of doing the wrong thing here, but I think the 118 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 4: NR rel oh it to the clubs to do a 119 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 4: proper investigation into this and try and find out exactly 120 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,119 Speaker 4: when the phone calls did start. 121 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: It. 122 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 4: They might be telling them the complete truth, but because 123 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 4: there is so much innuendo out there, the game owes 124 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 4: it to everyone to tell us what the truth was. 125 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 4: But we had that investigation a couple of years ago. 126 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 4: Ben Hunt, when there was accusations flying at the time, 127 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 4: just disappeared into the eth what's the use. 128 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 5: Of having a rule about what's the use of having 129 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 5: the rules? There's the rules of the game. 130 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 3: I think he's playing within the rules because you can 131 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: talk about players. 132 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 5: You just can't according that. 133 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 4: You used to be able to talk, but you couldn't 134 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 4: sign the contract until November one. 135 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 5: Now you can't. 136 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: Allowed to negotiating. 137 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 5: There's no negotiations at all. 138 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 3: But don't they negotiating now, or. 139 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 5: Well they are now because that club's given them permission 140 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 5: to do. 141 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 7: They're all negotiating all the time. We all know that. 142 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 5: So what's head office have the rules? 143 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 7: It's a fair question. 144 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 6: His head office scared of Gus because you go back 145 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 6: to last year and there was a stage where they 146 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 6: hid him with a breach notice for comments that he'd 147 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 6: made in the media and on television, and they're adamant 148 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 6: that they were going to stick to their guns. And 149 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 6: it was a twenty thousand dollars Fine. Well, in the end, 150 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 6: they're not scared. 151 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: They're not scared. They're actually trying to come up with 152 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: some sort of way of stopping what's happened over the 153 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: past few months from happening. 154 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 5: But it's hard because it's quite simple. 155 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: But how simple is it? 156 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 4: This is how simple it is. Don't allow it like 157 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 4: who runs the game? Do the agents run the game? 158 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 4: Do the clubs run the game? No, they don't. The 159 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 4: NRL runs the game. The governing body runs the game. 160 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 4: If you sign a contract, this is how easy it is. 161 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 4: You sign a contract and you have thirty players in 162 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 4: your squad, and usually they sign off on those guys 163 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 4: by early rounds. Make them play out the season at 164 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 4: least if you know there's always going to be Shenanigan's 165 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 4: in the off season and deals will be done. Let 166 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 4: that be the trade window, but for the duration of 167 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 4: the season. 168 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 5: Keep the players at the. 169 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 4: Unless you come up unless a club or an agent 170 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 4: can come up with extenuating circumstances that they did, and 171 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 4: the bar is set really, really high. It happens all 172 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 4: the time, goodon. So it's the biggest blood on the game, 173 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 4: and it has. 174 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: To be the general behind a trade window. But the 175 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: RLPA are not Clinton. 176 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 3: Who runs the status plate. 177 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: But they're in partnership now and there's the players have 178 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: a huge stay through the APLA. So just to get 179 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: something clear that they are behind it and they're pushing 180 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: for it. And going back to how do you stop 181 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: someone like Gus or even me, You know, people talk 182 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: about conflict of interests, and how do you stop the 183 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: likes of all the people we've got on our panels 184 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: who are involved in clubs in Channel and nine who 185 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: are all involved in clubs and got jobs there, and 186 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: of having opinions on players and coaches, and where do you. 187 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 5: Draw the line. You can't stop that. But going back 188 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 5: to the question that we just spoke about, if you stop. 189 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 4: Players willy nilly and clubs and clubs switching and changing 190 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 4: and getting out of a deal here and getting out 191 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 4: of it, it's very easy to stop. 192 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 5: Don't allow it, don't allow it until the off season. 193 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: Your answer is. 194 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 4: Twenty four hours before the State of Origin game and 195 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 4: the biggest story in rugby league and the. 196 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: Story you have to leave the biggest story and you 197 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: have to talk about the biggest story State of Origin. 198 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 5: It's not at the moment. 199 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 4: It's a nine en year old kid that's played about 200 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 4: thirty first grade games, so that's why we're talking about it. 201 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 5: Then they can change the narrow We've got. 202 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: To change clubs for moving kids on too. So if 203 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: they make of course that, they've got to stay with 204 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: him as well. 205 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 4: And I think there may be you know, circumstances where 206 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 4: a club loses a stack of players through injury or 207 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 4: something personal has happened that is unavoidable. But in these 208 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 4: instances made if you made clubs stick to their roster, 209 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 4: then it becomes a battle of endurance, you know, survival 210 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 4: of the fittest. 211 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 5: And it's a simple solution. 212 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 7: It cross on the flip side as well. Clubs tap players. 213 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 5: On the shoulder and make you stop it both ways. 214 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 4: You stop it both ways, and you give them the 215 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 4: fans out there, they can make it a better world, mate, 216 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 4: They can they can. 217 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 6: Make no question, there's a better system than the mess 218 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 6: that it is at the moment. Because we've had DC, 219 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 6: we've had Dylan Brown, now it's Lachland Galvin. It's dominated 220 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 6: front and back pages for months. 221 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 2: To be disappointed parafans. It was a shot of a 222 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 2: para guy with Galvin on the back of a parent managers, 223 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: So how do. 224 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: They fix it there? 225 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 7: But how do they fix it? 226 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: But tell me how would the speculation stop if there 227 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: was a transfer. 228 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 4: You'll never stop the speculation and you'll never talk stop 229 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 4: all the talk that goes on behind the scenes, as 230 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 4: you just said, But at least during the competition. If 231 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 4: you stop players transferring, this doesn't happen and finishes the 232 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 4: season at Westcott Tigers and at the end of the 233 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 4: season they come up with a plan to. 234 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 5: Get in there. 235 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: If a player goes to a club and says that 236 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: he's been bullied. 237 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 4: Well yeah, well then then it requires an investigation. But 238 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 4: don't don't you think. 239 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: So post is not that's not bullying. 240 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 5: I don't believe it is either. But it finds a 241 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 5: show of respect to his coach. 242 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 6: On that I think you'll find that list of grievances 243 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 6: that the agent went into Riche's office with It's not 244 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 6: just about the little snapchat in the Instagram past. There's 245 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 6: a hell of a lot of detail and all of that, 246 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 6: and it would be ugly and dirty laundry head in 247 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 6: public if it did make its way into the courts. 248 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: That's interesting all right. Now, Tracking back to Gould and 249 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: Chemist last night, worked colleagues, when Toe to Toe on air, 250 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: we all saw it, whether it was on the show 251 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: or Socials, all throughout the day. 252 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 3: I liked it. 253 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: Apparently it went beyond are off. 254 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I was watching it live. 255 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 6: It felt like they were sort of forced into an 256 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 6: ad break because it looked as it was starting to 257 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 6: get a little bit overly heated. 258 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: Uh. 259 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 6: And then when it did cut to the ad break. 260 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 6: Talking to people who were there today, they certainly suggested 261 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 6: that Guss wasn't overly happy. He felt as though, I 262 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 6: think there might have been a couple of exclusives used, 263 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 6: and he felt as though his integrity had been questioned. 264 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: So it continued when when they kept. 265 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 6: Going after after the after the cut to an ad break, 266 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 6: it definitely there was definitely further words exchange. 267 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: You think we'll see Chamis on the panel anytime soon. 268 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 6: Well, he've got rissold last week at the behest of 269 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 6: eyeser at. 270 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 7: They stick by him because I thought he. 271 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 1: Did his job. Yeah, I thought he did too. I 272 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: mean it's all you know, it's very rare that Gus 273 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: gets questioned about his actions and his comments. And I 274 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 1: love the fact that right or wrong, Chemis didn't back 275 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: down like he backed himself. Continue to take him on. 276 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: And Gus is an intimidating guy, not only because he's 277 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 1: again one of the brightest minds in our game, but 278 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: he's one of the most experienced, he's one of the 279 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: most powerful. He's one of the most intimidating. And Chamis 280 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: just went went went for it and didn't take it 281 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: backward step. And you've got to respect that, you know, 282 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 1: not many guys have got the you know what to 283 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: do that, And I thought Mick did a good job. 284 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: Now you've got a little bit of a beef with 285 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: the three hundred less. Yeah, well that Galvin has taken 286 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: to go to the dogs. 287 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 4: Look, it could again, it could be all above board, 288 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 4: but there are clubs out there who rightfully question, how 289 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 4: do a guy that was offered a million dollars a 290 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 4: season has now accepted three hundred thousand dollars less a season, 291 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 4: and it's just it's a stain on the salary cap 292 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 4: that we don't have any transparency when it comes to 293 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 4: third parties, when it comes to contracts. 294 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 5: We had an incident at. 295 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 4: The Bulldogs a few years ago where Buzz reported was 296 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 4: it two years ago now with Tino when they were 297 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 4: following Tino and. 298 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 5: Arthur Lorndy had come. 299 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 4: Out publicly and suggested that he was willing, you know, 300 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 4: he wanted to make the bill a big statement at 301 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 4: the Bulldogs and he was willing to let players invest 302 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 4: in their pubs and guarantee the money. And of course 303 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 4: the NRL didn't allow that, didn't allow that at the time. 304 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 4: But then you see players going to the Bulldogs and again, 305 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 4: in no way are we suggesting they are doing the 306 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 4: wrong thing. But you have player like Leo Thompson in 307 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 4: recent times who the Canberra Raiders offered eight hundred thousand 308 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 4: dollars a season and he goes there for massive unders 309 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 4: and then now Lachland Galvin goes there for massive unders. 310 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 4: And the salary cap is the integrity behind what's supposed 311 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,119 Speaker 4: to make it a fair and level, a valid. 312 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: Points so Ben Hunt was on a million dollars what 313 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: six hundred of Brisbane Now they say Adam renders all 314 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: as he wants is three hundred. It's actually unfair on 315 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: the sides down the bottom that are struggling to sign 316 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: these guys. You got the West Tigers offer a million 317 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: dollars over and step fanho and they get out played 318 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: by the bigger clubs. I didn't get off the bat. 319 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: I've got a different take on this. 320 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: I think it says more about the clubs they're leaving 321 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: than the lines that they're going to and from. 322 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 3: My experience to get all that, but it's still under this. 323 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: Let me just explain. So if I myself would take 324 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: one hundred and two hundred thousand dollars less to go 325 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: to a club to win a premiership, it was one 326 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: of the apart from having kids, best feeling in my life. 327 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: There is no better feeling. And when you're a player 328 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: like Lachlan Galvin who goes into the Bulldog system for 329 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: two to three hundred thousand dollars less, I don't even 330 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: know what the third parties are. He's got fifteen years 331 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: in our game, He's only going to be His value 332 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: is going to go up. He's going to make millions 333 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: of dollars over that time, and he's going to be 334 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: financially secure. And there are only limited premiership windows at 335 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: certain clubs at certain times, and the Bulldogs are in 336 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: one right now. And if you said to me, if 337 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: I was in his position and he was my client, 338 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: I'd be pushing him to the Bulldogs and I'd say, mate, 339 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: go there. You're going to get developed, you'll become a 340 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: better player. By the time you leave, your value is 341 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: going to go up every year, and you've got a 342 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: chance of winning a premiership. And to take two hundred 343 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: thousand dollars less two hundred fifty thousand dollars less right 344 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: now for longevity and your value in the game and 345 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: the position you're in right now, that's a decision. 346 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 5: You're one hundred percent right, right, and it goes both ways. 347 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 4: You will also see if we had transparency there, and 348 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 4: they do it around the world and the NBA and 349 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 4: that you can call up any player and you know 350 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 4: what to a cent, what they get. And at least 351 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 4: if we had that transparency here, we could see the 352 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 4: good job that the good clubs are doing, and they're 353 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 4: not so good job that the other clubs may be doing. 354 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 4: But at least it's there for the fans that you 355 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 4: want if they follow your game, it's there for them 356 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 4: to see. 357 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: But it's still hard for the fans to swallow when 358 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: everybody else that's gone to the dogs and cry and 359 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: then kick out. I've gone for more money, but they 360 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: went they left the premiership side, so they go that. 361 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: So they're winning premierships. They've left the premiership winning side, 362 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: winning trophies to go play for more money. 363 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: It's really hard for some fans to swallow. 364 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 6: You make a great point Crawls in that the overseas sports, 365 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 6: so Major League Baseball, the NBA, the NFL, you can 366 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 6: look up a player and it is all black and white. 367 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 6: They're completely transparent. You know exactly how much money each 368 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 6: player on. That is on the only thing I would 369 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 6: be curious about if they did go down that road 370 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 6: in rugby league. Firstly, I think the RPA would block it. 371 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 6: I don't think they'd allow it. That's a position that 372 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 6: they've taken previously. But third parties do You then also 373 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 6: have to publish. 374 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 4: That's well almost the most important thing because when you 375 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 4: see these deals, you don't know the third parties that 376 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 4: are behind them. And I think that again, if if 377 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 4: clubs are good enough to have these, you know, legitimate 378 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 4: third party deals to prop up, you know, at least if. 379 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 5: They're there for everyone to see, well then there's no complaining. 380 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: All right, let's cross in the new South Wales camp. 381 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: Now Blues team manager Frank Pernisi joins us on the 382 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: go io True Blue Mike. Thanks for joining us, Frank 383 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: the night before the Big One origin. Have you found 384 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: out who was spying on you at Queensland training? I've 385 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: heard it was Big Gordy. Sorry, Frankie, No, it wasn't good. 386 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: I reckon it was amongst them. 387 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 8: Myself, I have to agree with Jackie Haney jaking. 388 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: That wouldn't surprise me. No, Frank. It's been a little 389 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: bit of an interrupted preparation, but we're hearing some good 390 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: news out of the Blues camp. Payton has has cleared 391 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: to play, and we just heard only minutes ago that 392 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: Stephen Crichton's been given the all clear. Is that right? 393 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's correct. He'll be named in our nineteen and 394 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 8: eight o'clock tonight when you have to name it. Twenty 395 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 8: four hours in advance. We did get exemption to have 396 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 8: Matt Burton potentially had Stephen Crichton not been fit to play, 397 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 8: but we're not going to be calling on that now, 398 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,239 Speaker 8: so we expect Stephen to play tomorrow night. 399 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, so you got him, so he might be 400 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 3: nineteenth man. Did he do the captain's run today? 401 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 2: So we're hearing remembers that he didn't do the didn't 402 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: even do the captain's run. 403 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: No, that's correct, we didn't. 404 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 8: There was a light run anyway for the whole team, 405 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 8: but Credit just did a little bit on the side himself. 406 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: So he's just getting over a cork. 407 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 8: He's made enormous progress over the last twenty four hours 408 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 8: and even the last few hours he's got a lot better. 409 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 8: So we think in twenty four hours he'll be close 410 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 8: to one hundred percent. 411 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 6: Francis James Hooper, you know it's origin time when the 412 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 6: courier Mark goes with the back page smash this grub 413 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 6: and a picture of Spencer and you how is that 414 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 6: received inside New South Wales camp? And we haven't heard 415 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 6: from Spencer this week? How do you think you'll go 416 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 6: tomorrow night? 417 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 8: Spencer will just plays normal game And honestly, it has 418 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 8: not been discussed whatsoever. I mean, he's just that type 419 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 8: of player. Won't worry him. 420 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: If anything, it will spare him on. So I know 421 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: it's the least of our worries. 422 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 8: I think he'll just play his normal game off the bench. 423 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 8: He provides that much energy and spark and he'll just 424 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 8: play he's natural game that does each week. 425 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 5: Hey Frank, it's Paul Crawley here. 426 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: Mate. 427 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 5: You were there last year under Madge. 428 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 4: Tell us the difference and what has been the biggest 429 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 4: change under Lourie and also with Craig there in camp 430 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 4: this year. 431 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, Paul, it's a good question. Look, it's different, but 432 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 8: it's not a good different or a bad different, and 433 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 8: they're just both different coaches. But what Laurie's done, he's 434 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 8: kept a lot of the things that Madgie introduced last year. 435 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 8: Obviously he's added his own little spice here and there, 436 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 8: and with Belly Ake's assistance, just little tweaks were required. 437 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 8: But I think the impressive part that everyone's been impressed 438 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 8: with Lorry are his main management skills, the way he 439 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 8: handles the coaches, the staff and especially the players, and 440 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 8: the biggest singing. As I said, he's just taken on 441 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 8: so much we did last year and everyone's but really 442 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 8: grateful for it. 443 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 2: Hey, Frank, you've been around some of the biggest superstars 444 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: ever to play our game and you've got Latreille. What 445 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 2: does l Trell bring to this Blue side and what's 446 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: something that you've learned from him? 447 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: Just? 448 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 8: Confidence? Good, He's just got this order about him and 449 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 8: he's in a really good space at the moment. He's 450 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 8: physically looking fantastic and you know he's in for a 451 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 8: big game tomorrow night. He's just been great to be 452 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 8: around a player like him. He's got a lot of 453 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 8: confidence and self belief which rubs off on everyone and 454 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 8: you know, if he gets some good ball tomorrow night, 455 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 8: you know he's in for a terrific game. 456 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 6: Frank, you joked about Cameron Munster off the top and 457 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 6: the fact he might have been secretly spying on the Blues, 458 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 6: but you've had a lot to do with him over 459 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 6: the course of your time with the Melbourne Storm. What 460 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 6: insights have you given the New South Wales camp about 461 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 6: what they can expect. 462 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 7: From Cameron tomorrow night? Because he is a noted big 463 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 7: game player. 464 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 8: No, he is, Hoops has no doubt about it, and 465 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 8: I think about with Cameron. He sells in these type 466 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 8: of games. Most of the players, if not, you know, 467 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 8: the vast majority of the group playing for the Blues 468 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 8: tomorrow night have played with Cameron an Australian level and 469 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 8: they've played against him at Origin level. 470 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: And club level. 471 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 8: So there's really not too much more to add, and 472 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 8: that belly Acle myself can add on what to expect 473 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 8: from Cameron Munster. You know, we just got to be 474 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 8: on guard. But the thing about he can't be just 475 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 8: worrying about one player. They've got a terrific spine and 476 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 8: a number of other players, so you know, we'll be 477 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 8: treating all the players in their spine equally. 478 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 4: Frank, going back to all the great players you've and 479 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 4: leaders that you've been around over the years. What about 480 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 4: Isaoo what sort of personality he comes across as so unassuming, 481 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 4: But what's he like within the group? 482 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly what you see, Crawls. 483 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 8: He's just his temperament reminds me of Cameron Smith and 484 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 8: from one moment I'm not suggesting he's at Cameron Smith's 485 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 8: level at the moment, but he's just got a wonderful 486 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 8: temperament with the players and his ability to talk at 487 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 8: the right time and regroup the players when they needed 488 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 8: to be spoken to. And just his calmness under pressure 489 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 8: is going to be really important tomorrow night because we 490 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 8: know what's coming ahead. It's massive up here and every 491 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 8: game at sun Corp is you know, with fifty thousand 492 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 8: Queenslanders and Queens are going to come out strong and 493 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 8: you need a leader like him. 494 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: I mean, he did a wonderful job. 495 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 8: With Jake to Boyvis last year who led our state fantastic. 496 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 8: Lee will a completely different leader to Jake but also 497 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 8: is effective. So now he's going to be a wonderful 498 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 8: player for us tomorrow night and a wonderful leader. 499 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: You're not wrong, Frank, it is a massive game tomorrow 500 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: night at Suncourt. Again, thank you very much for joining 501 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: us so close to the game. Go and fire up 502 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: those boys and get that win over the dirty Morons. 503 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: Thanks Bray, Thanks boys here he is, sorry Gordy for that. 504 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 3: Watched tell you what I got to feel and Crichton 505 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: might and play. 506 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: I've got to agree with you. I've got I got 507 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: a feeling. 508 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: I'm telling you because his origin is a beast, right 509 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 2: and he limped in the camp right, So you've got 510 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 2: to watch all these little things because that's where you 511 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: get the advantage because he heard he's groin and when 512 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: you carry a groin and you go okay, So then 513 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: he's got another knock on the other side. 514 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: He's still in the state. 515 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, but like then he's a leader and all that, 516 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: but then you put the state first, the real confidence ones, 517 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: I can't let these boys down. I mean there's part 518 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 2: of that in your process as well as part of it, 519 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 2: like the selfish part. I want to go out there 520 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: and play, but then you go, man if I let 521 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: these boys down, and if you don't do the captain's rung, 522 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 2: which is the lightest rung. It's the lightest and it's 523 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 2: the one that you want to be involved in. 524 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: There were a few things that stood out to me 525 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: there because we looked at each other, didn't we I 526 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: wish dog was sitting there. Origin. Yeah, for Origin, that 527 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: the captain's run is extremely important. Cool, Like, even though 528 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: it's just the captain's run, it's the last one before 529 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: you play. Obviously his experience he has been there and 530 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: done it before. You can kind of pass that. Then 531 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: when Frank said, we've named him in the nineteen because 532 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: I said, is he cleared the play, said he's name 533 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: in the nineteen didn't quite him, we will name him 534 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: in the nineties, said that there's still monitoring and he 535 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: hasn't got the clear yet, or that this is a 536 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: tactic and they're not going to plan. He would have 537 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: just said mate, so good. He would have said, he's 538 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: really yep, he's sweet. 539 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 5: He got through the captains Queensland and they've gone, they've. 540 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: Got they've got where's the spy. 541 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 7: Now again? 542 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 6: If well, if he is out, so Campbell Graham goes 543 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 6: trade in and plays right center, Yes, because did he 544 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 6: say Burton's still in the. 545 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: Has been told not to right, not to worry, So 546 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that it will be Listen, he might still play. 547 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 5: Brightened but always in the past place We're we're. 548 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: Going to get to a break. But that was a 549 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: bit suspicious that that one there with Frankin will find 550 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: out in the next twenty four hours Stick Around Journals up. Next, 551 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: we head into Queensland camp with Marown's assistant coach, Josh Hanna.