Speaker 1: Live on Sky News. This is Sharry.
Speaker 2: Good Evening. Massive newsday today, both in the US and locally.
Speaker 2: The leader of the Free World, Joe Biden, could barely
Speaker 2: deliver a coherent speech the US capital overrun by Hamas
Speaker 2: supporters and Israeli Prime Minister Benjaminett and Yahoo delivered his
Speaker 2: most powerful argument yet for Western support of Israel. You
Speaker 2: can hardly compare Biden's weak remarks with the strength of
Speaker 2: the Israeli leader.
Speaker 3: And that day, I told you, as I stood in
Speaker 3: that winter, We're still in a winter of peril and
Speaker 3: winner possibility for.
Speaker 4: The forces of civilization to triumph. America and Israel must
Speaker 4: stand together.
Speaker 2: And yet eighty Democrats who claimed to support democracy couldn't
Speaker 2: even sit there and listen to what Netinnahu had to say.
Speaker 2: I'm going to come back to that in a minute.
Speaker 2: Here in Australia, meanwhile, economists are warning a recession could
Speaker 2: be on the cards. This is Wall Street had its
Speaker 2: worst day in almost two years, with a one trillion
Speaker 2: dollar wipeout, and Albinezie announced the retirement of two ministers,
Speaker 2: sparking a cabinet reshuffle. This opens the way for Andrew Giles'
Speaker 2: demotion finally, well, let's get into it tonight.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 2: In his speech, Joe Biden vowed to call out hate, extremism,
Speaker 2: and violence, Yet the very city from where he spoke
Speaker 2: had just been overrun by lawlessness, vile, racism, and anarchy.
Speaker 2: Washington today looked more like the harmass headquarters in Gaza
Speaker 2: than it did the heart and soul of America. Her
Speaker 2: Musk supporters, and we have to repeat that seriously, her
Speaker 2: Musk supporters. How can they even be supporters for the
Speaker 2: gun toting monsters who behead, rape and slaughter innocent families.
Speaker 2: Yet there are, and they turned out in Washington, defiling
Speaker 2: the Christopher Columbus Memorial Fountain with the words her muss
Speaker 2: is coming. Yep, the killers, butchers and rapists are coming.
Speaker 2: These vile activists burned an effigy of Netanyahoo, the Prime
Speaker 2: minister who's trying to eliminate the terrorists and bring home
Speaker 2: innocent hostages from Gaza, including a baby, his little brother,
Speaker 2: and their mum. Those two children stolen it just nine
Speaker 2: months old and four years old, the world's youngest hostages.
Speaker 2: The pro Palestinian activists burned the American and Israeli flags
Speaker 2: while waving the green her Musk flag and chanting palisine
Speaker 2: will be free, aligned, will be free sign and a
Speaker 2: massive Palestinian flag where Hamas is the current governing body,
Speaker 2: was unfurled on the street. The American flag torn down
Speaker 2: from Union station and instead the Palestinian flag was hoisted
Speaker 2: and flown. The Hamas supporters grew violent. They clashed with police,
Speaker 2: who used tear gas to control the crowd. There were
Speaker 2: many arrests. Now, it's one thing to mourn the loss
Speaker 2: of life in Gaza. It is tragic and we all
Speaker 2: mourn it. And you may disagree with how Israel has
Speaker 2: pursued Hamas in Gaza, but to support Hermas, to support
Speaker 2: the terrorists who not only forced Israel into this war
Speaker 2: that it never won, but deliberately put its own people,
Speaker 2: the Palestinian people, in harm's way day after day, by
Speaker 2: hiding within civilian populations, by refusing to cooperate with ceasefire proposals,
Speaker 2: and by welcoming a high death toll in order to
Speaker 2: turn the West against Israel. Every single soul who has
Speaker 2: perished in this war is entirely on her Muss's hands.
Speaker 2: Her must chose to start the war nine months ago,
Speaker 2: but it also could have ended the war at any
Speaker 2: point since then if it's simply chose to hand back
Speaker 2: innocent hostages, young people and surrender. But there's a reason
Speaker 2: her mus won't hand back hostages. There's a reason her
Speaker 2: Musk refuses every ceasefire proposal, and it's this. The terrorist
Speaker 2: group wants to prolong the war because while they're losing
Speaker 2: ground in Gaza, they're winning internationally with more support than
Speaker 2: ever in the West, especially among the idiotic, confused millennials
Speaker 2: who sadly make up our next generation. But there can
Speaker 2: be no confusion. To support her Muss, as we saw
Speaker 2: in Washington today, is to support evil. It's to support
Speaker 2: among the most malicious and barbaric acts ever inflicted on
Speaker 2: human beings, on par with Hitler's atrocities. To support her
Speaker 2: Muss is to unequivocally be on the wrong side of
Speaker 2: history and humanity. Now, Benjamin Netanyahu unquestionably a controversial politician,
Speaker 2: loved and loathed by Israeli's in almost equal measure. Well,
Speaker 2: he did deliver a powerful speech today where he articulated
Speaker 2: very clearly the enemy his country is up against.
Speaker 4: These monsters. They rape women, they beheaded men, they burnt
Speaker 4: babies alive. They killed parents in front of their children,
Speaker 4: and children in front of their parents. They dragged two
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty five people, both living and dead, into
Speaker 4: the dark dungeons of Gaza. The ICC is trying to
Speaker 4: shackle Israel's hands and prevent us from defending ourselves. And
Speaker 4: if Israel's hands are tied, America is next. And I'll
Speaker 4: tell you what else is next. The ability of all
Speaker 4: democracies to fight terrorism will be imperiled. That's what's on
Speaker 4: the line.
Speaker 2: And He's right, And those protesters who burned the American
Speaker 2: flag only reinforced Netanyahu's point to Congress that Israel's enemies
Speaker 2: are America's enemies.
Speaker 4: Defeating our brutal enemies requires both courage and clarity. Clarity
Speaker 4: begins by knowing the difference between good and evil. Yet
Speaker 4: incredibly many anti Israel protesters, many choose to stand with evil.
Speaker 4: They stand with hamas they stand with rapists and murderers.
Speaker 4: They should be ashamed of themselves.
Speaker 2: So as this debate heats up internationally, including in Australia,
Speaker 2: let's be very clear. Israel is trying to eliminate the
Speaker 2: terrorists who killed entire families and stole hostages.
Speaker 1: There could be.
Speaker 2: No other response than to eliminate the terrorists, much the
Speaker 2: same way that America went after Osama bin Laden and
Speaker 2: the other perpetrators of nine to eleven, much the same
Speaker 2: way the Allies destroyed the Nazis in World War Two.
Speaker 2: Despite the heavy loss of life, and there were an
Speaker 2: estimated forty million civilians killed in the World War, no
Speaker 2: civilized government would abandon two hundred and fifty innocent citizens, including,
Speaker 2: as I said, a baby and his four year old brother,
Speaker 2: to the grips of armed terrorists. Any rational person would
Speaker 2: agree that that notion is intolerable and impossible. Yet the
Speaker 2: scenes on the streets of Washington today show us that
Speaker 2: the longer this war wage is on, the more the
Speaker 2: woke brigade find a reason to condone terrorism and find
Speaker 2: excuses for anti Semitism. And I'll be crossing live to
Speaker 2: the United States to break all of this down. And
Speaker 2: it was a big day. Biden's speech will come back
Speaker 2: to that. I'm going to have former acting Attorney General
Speaker 2: in the Trump administration on the show. Also a Republican
Speaker 2: National Committee spokeswoman. Shortly, but now let's bring in tonight's panel.
Speaker 2: The Australians National Affairs Editor Joe Kelly and National Senator
Speaker 2: Matt Canavan. Welcome to you both. I first want to
Speaker 2: start with Netanyahu's speech to Congress that I've just been
Speaker 2: speaking about. What's your analysis of the pitch that he
Speaker 2: delivered to some of them quite hostile Congress members.
Speaker 6: Yes, Cherry, good to be on the program. I too,
Speaker 6: thought it was a very powerful speech by Benjamin Netanyahu.
Speaker 6: I think he made the case that this is a
Speaker 6: conflict in which America is fighting, in which Israel is
Speaker 6: fighting a new barbarism. This is not a clash of civilizations,
Speaker 6: as Samuel Huntington suggested. This is a clash for the
Speaker 6: future of democracy and the values which we share, that
Speaker 6: Israel shares with America and which Australia should share as well.
Speaker 6: I think it was a very powerful pitch, but I
Speaker 6: do think that there is a divide in the American
Speaker 6: political system. We saw very strong criticism of netnya who
Speaker 6: made by a number of prominent Democrats, and I think
Speaker 6: that they are growing increasingly frustrated with him because there
Speaker 6: are reports that the Biden administration is trying to work
Speaker 6: on a broader political solution.
Speaker 1: To end the conflict.
Speaker 6: This would still see a phased release of hostages, but
Speaker 6: essentially it would try and come up with a solution
Speaker 6: in which Israel and key Arab nations could come together
Speaker 6: to oppose the new power and threat represented by Irand
Speaker 6: so I think that there is a fundamental difference in strategy,
Speaker 6: and I do also think that this could play into
Speaker 6: the political contest going forward. I think it would do
Speaker 6: a great service for Kamala Harris if Joe Biden and
Speaker 6: Benjamin Netanya who were able to come together and actually
Speaker 6: on a plan to try and get a negotiated outcome
Speaker 6: that's acceptable to everyone. But obviously that will be a
Speaker 6: very difficult task.
Speaker 2: Character Yeah, indeed, and there is the concern that Kamala
Speaker 2: Harris may have, or in fact she does, have a
Speaker 2: more critical view on Israel than Biden, does. You know,
Speaker 2: Despite the tensions in Biden and Netanyahu's relationship, and there
Speaker 2: are tensions there, unquestionably they've spilled over into the public domain.
Speaker 2: Biden has over his entire career been a firm supporter
Speaker 2: of Israel, as has the United States whoever has been
Speaker 2: in power. Matt Biden spoke for the first time since
Speaker 2: announcing he was quitting the presidential race. Let's have a
Speaker 2: listen to that.
Speaker 3: So I've decided the best way forward is the past,
Speaker 3: the torch for new generation. It's the best waiting an
Speaker 3: in our nation. You know, there is a time and
Speaker 3: a place for long years of experience in public life.
Speaker 3: So there's also a time and a place for new voices,
Speaker 3: fresh voices, yes, younger voices, and that time and places now.
Speaker 2: Matt Canavan, I thought that was quite a feeble speech,
Speaker 2: and you know it also, it really was incredible to
Speaker 2: think that just last week he said only the Lord
Speaker 2: Almighty could stop him from running again. And then there
Speaker 2: was no explanation for why he suddenly came to the
Speaker 2: epiphany that it was time to pass the torch to
Speaker 2: a younger generation.
Speaker 7: What do you think, Well, the only explanation was that
Speaker 7: he'd lost the support of his own party.
Speaker 1: That's the brief explanation he gave.
Speaker 7: Obviously, he felt he was still capable of running and
Speaker 7: winning the election. Look, I thought the speech ticked the boxes,
Speaker 7: so to speak of HARKing back to America's story beginning
Speaker 7: and ideals that it was founded upon. But there is
Speaker 7: this still I think tension in the arguments that the
Speaker 7: Democratic Party are putting forward in apparently they're running to
Speaker 7: save democracy for all Americans sometimes even the world. Yet
Speaker 7: if the American people were to elect and vote for
Speaker 7: their opponents, that somehow would end democracy. I don't know
Speaker 7: how that circle is squared. I mean, that is democracy.
Speaker 7: It's up to the people to decide. But somehow to
Speaker 7: suggest that the election, the election of your political opponent
Speaker 7: would end a democracy as we know it just seems
Speaker 7: completely absurd and nonsensical. So look, I think I sort
Speaker 7: of hope perhaps after the shocking events of the last
Speaker 7: couple of weeks and the almost assassination of Donald Trump,
Speaker 7: that some of that outlandish rhetoric would be softened, But
Speaker 7: it doesn't seem to be the case.
Speaker 1: It still heightens the stakes on.
Speaker 7: All of these questions, which should be brought down to
Speaker 7: more on the ground level in my view.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe, I thought the actual crafting of the speech,
Speaker 2: you know, the speechwriters did a good job. Some of
Speaker 2: it was beautiful if it would have been delivered well,
Speaker 2: but you know, it was so hard to watch. You
Speaker 2: wanted him to give an impressive performance because this is
Speaker 2: such a legacy defining speech, was such an important speech
Speaker 2: for him. He had his family there, they were emotional,
Speaker 2: but you just got the sense the whole time that
Speaker 2: he was struggling to read it. He was a minute
Speaker 2: away from a stumble or a gaffer. It was just weak.
Speaker 6: What did you think, Cherry, You mentioned just their legacy
Speaker 6: sort of defining speech for I think the problem for
Speaker 6: Joe Biden is he wants to convince Americans now that
Speaker 6: this was never about him. It wasn't about his personal ambition.
Speaker 6: He revers the office, but he loves America more. He's
Speaker 6: putting American families first. But the reality is I think
Speaker 6: the problem with the speech is everyone knows that that's
Speaker 6: not authentic, that's not real. As Matt said, what happened.
Speaker 6: I mean, even two weeks ago, Joe Biden said it
Speaker 6: would take God Almighty himself, yes, to come down heaven
Speaker 6: and tell him you better withdraw from the race. Well,
Speaker 6: that didn't happen. He lost the support, he lost the
Speaker 6: support of his party.
Speaker 2: And as of course, you think that Nancy Pelosi is
Speaker 2: God Almighty and probably some people revere her as much
Speaker 2: as if she was God.
Speaker 6: Well, look, I think you talked about legacy. I think
Speaker 6: he talked about unity for the party, but I think
Speaker 6: what's happened is he held on too long. The party
Speaker 6: now has been forced to rally around Kamala Harris. It
Speaker 6: hasn't had an open and competitive process nomination process, and
Speaker 6: if she goes on to lose the presidential election, I
Speaker 6: think the legacy issue for Joe Biden will be that
Speaker 6: he effectively handicapped the Democrats by holding on for too long.
Speaker 6: And I think that a lot of the lofty ideals
Speaker 6: which he expressed today will be seen as inauthentic. So
Speaker 6: that's the dilemmas. And obviously had to say all those things,
Speaker 6: but I'm not sure they had the ring of truth.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: Indeed, now turned to federal politics in Australia, and after
Speaker 2: weeks of speculation, Anthony Alberinezi finally today announced the resignation
Speaker 2: of Indigenous Affairs Minister Linda Bernie and the Skills Minister
Speaker 2: Brendan O'Connor.
Speaker 8: Have a look, We'll always be grateful for the extraordinary
Speaker 8: example which these two fine Australiants give of.
Speaker 1: Why people should enter public life.
Speaker 2: And he'll announce the cabinet reshuffle on Sunday. Andrew Giles
Speaker 2: widely expected to go. Matt Canavan. You know Linda Burnie's
Speaker 2: great contribution to public life was putting Indigenous affairs on
Speaker 2: the table. She would say it's the voice. Clearly that
Speaker 2: did divide Australia. In the end in Australian's voted no.
Speaker 2: So how do you think she'll be remembered.
Speaker 1: Look, it's a bit hard to say.
Speaker 7: I think, as you say, her really only major initiative
Speaker 7: as the Indigenous Affairs minister was was the Voice, and.
Speaker 1: It utterly failed. I'm not so sure it divided us
Speaker 1: too much.
Speaker 7: It united us quite a lot against it, but not
Speaker 7: in the way that Minister Ernie would have hoped. So look,
Speaker 7: obviously that will go down in our nation's history. It's
Speaker 7: one of less than fifty referendus we've had. But her
Speaker 7: legacy probably will be one that she wasn't successful. But look,
Speaker 7: she's done her best and I wish her well. The
Speaker 7: test for Anthony Alberonezi there was not to accept the
Speaker 7: voluntary resignations he has today. It's to force the resignation
Speaker 7: of underperforming ministers and show some accountability to the Australian
Speaker 7: people for such underperformance, as you.
Speaker 1: Mentioned, Edred Giles.
Speaker 7: But Clara O'Neil as well has been a partner in
Speaker 7: crime here in the release of more criminals onto our
Speaker 7: nation shores since the days of the First Fleet.
Speaker 1: So that's the real test here.
Speaker 7: Is there going to be accountability in the Prime Minister's
Speaker 7: cabinet and ministry for such gross failures of governance?
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, who do you expect to be promoted and
Speaker 2: demoted in this reshuffle? And do you think there's any
Speaker 2: chance because I don't that Andrew Giles will be sacked.
Speaker 2: I think you'll just be moved to another job.
Speaker 6: Well, look, we know that there'll be at least two
Speaker 6: people getting promoted. There are two resignations. They're both left
Speaker 6: wing positions, so they'll be left wing promotions. It's widely
Speaker 6: accepted that Senator Mellandarry McCarthy is very likely going to
Speaker 6: be promoted to take on that Indigenous Affairs portfolio. But
Speaker 6: some of the other left wing promotions. People are talking
Speaker 6: about assistant ministers like Jed Carney getting promoted. But then
Speaker 6: there are also a range of left wing backbenches like
Speaker 6: Julian Hill, Josh Wilson. The people are talking about promotions
Speaker 6: for them too. I think the key thing for Anthony Albanize.
Speaker 6: Is he going to do a very limited reshuffle where
Speaker 6: he does as little change as possible, or is he
Speaker 6: going to take this as an opportunity to do a
Speaker 6: broader reset. And I think there is a compelling case
Speaker 6: to do were broader reset. I think Immigration and Home
Speaker 6: Affairs should be swapped up. I think new people should
Speaker 6: go into those portfolios. I think there's a case too
Speaker 6: for someone to replace Julie Collins in housing. Do I
Speaker 6: think Anthony Albanezi is actually going to take those big
Speaker 6: steps and dump Andrew Giles to the backbench. I think
Speaker 6: it's very unlikely.
Speaker 2: And of course the other thing that he'll be considering
Speaker 2: is the faction. So you know, even though there might
Speaker 2: be someone very talented like Andrew Charlton who comes on
Speaker 2: this show regularly. I mean he ran the economic strategy
Speaker 2: for Kevin rud during the global financial crisis, there is
Speaker 2: no one potentially more experienced who should be entering the ministry.
Speaker 2: Yet he won't because he is a white male from
Speaker 2: the right faction. So all of these considerations when you're
Speaker 2: in the Labor Party at least will be balanced up.
Speaker 2: All right, Matt canavanro Kelly, thank you both very much
Speaker 2: for your time. Now, after the break, we'll go live
Speaker 2: to the US after the capital was stormed by Hamas supporters,
Speaker 2: plus a shocking new detail from the FBI about Trump's
Speaker 2: would be assassin. All of that coming up, welcome back.
Speaker 9: Well.
Speaker 2: Four days after dropping out of the presidential race, Joe
Speaker 2: Biden finally fronted the nation and Well, his intention was
Speaker 2: to explain his decision, but it didn't quite end up
Speaker 2: like that. He mumbled and bumbled his way through a
Speaker 2: twelve minute speech.
Speaker 3: I've come so far since my inauguration on that day,
Speaker 3: I told you as I stood in the winter, we're
Speaker 3: stood in a winter of peril and winter possibilities. When
Speaker 3: Ben Franklin was asked as he emerged from the convention,
Speaker 3: going on in this moment, we can see those we
Speaker 3: disagree with not as enemies, but as fellow Americans.
Speaker 2: All Right, for more on this, let's bring in the
Speaker 2: former acting United States Attorney General, Matthew Whittaker. Matthew, thank
Speaker 2: you very much for your time. Look, isn't it ironic
Speaker 2: that the Democratic National Committee has finalized a plan to
Speaker 2: nominate Kamala Harris before the convention, effectively to prevent any
Speaker 2: other contenders or any debate, the first time the Democrats
Speaker 2: have used such a process. And yet we heard Joe
Speaker 2: Biden speak about democracy over and over and over again.
Speaker 2: It was the main word he used in his speech, Well,
Speaker 2: good to be.
Speaker 10: With you in greetings from the United States. You know,
Speaker 10: we are in a kind of silly moment in American history.
Speaker 10: It is both you know, not real or not serious.
Speaker 10: What's happening with the Democrat Party where they allegedly, you know,
Speaker 10: are fighting for democracy, but are now going to run
Speaker 10: the most democratic nomination process ever history of major parties.
Speaker 10: And at the same time, we're never more insecure from
Speaker 10: the threats that the United States faces. And you know,
Speaker 10: you couple all that together and I think there's a
Speaker 10: lot of sincere concern of whether or not Joe Biden
Speaker 10: is really in charge and whether he is up to
Speaker 10: doing the job. And it's sad to say, you know,
Speaker 10: to watch that speech that he gave last night is
Speaker 10: just surreal. He's having a very hard time articulating himself.
Speaker 10: And yet, you know, for the last many months and
Speaker 10: quite frankly many years, the left in the United States
Speaker 10: has been telling us that, you know, he runs circles
Speaker 10: around everybody, and he's sharp as attack.
Speaker 2: Indeed, But in the end that only worked against the
Speaker 2: interests because they could have elected the best possible candidate
Speaker 2: if they'd gone through the proper process months ago. Instead,
Speaker 2: they're at this late stage and they only have Kamala Harris,
Speaker 2: who may be the best candidate, but hasn't been put
Speaker 2: through the ringer and been able to go through those
Speaker 2: interrogations and the debates against others. I agree with you. You
Speaker 2: got the sense that he was struggling to read that
Speaker 2: speech clearly. But what about the Republicans who are saying
Speaker 2: he should now step down as president? But you know,
Speaker 2: should they really be calling for that, because that would
Speaker 2: truly give Kamala the best chance of beating Donald trumpet
Speaker 2: if she were the president.
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, I.
Speaker 10: Think on the one hand, it would elevate her and
Speaker 10: make her have more of a spotlight. But at the
Speaker 10: same time, I think those of us that have watched
Speaker 10: her over the last really five or six years know
Speaker 10: that she has some limitations, whether that's her policies better ultraliberal,
Speaker 10: or whether that's her personality. You know, it's it's hard
Speaker 10: to find anybody that actually is a fan or that
Speaker 10: likes the Vice president. You know, it is very clear
Speaker 10: to me that as the American people get to know her,
Speaker 10: they're going to have more questions than answers. And you know,
Speaker 10: they've done a terrible time of launching her right now.
Speaker 10: You know, she's being outspent really almost sixty to one
Speaker 10: on advertising in swing states.
Speaker 1: And you know she's doing well.
Speaker 2: At fundraising though. She just raised one hundred million dollars
Speaker 2: since someday. I mean that's extraordinary.
Speaker 10: Yeah, but this is going to be a billion dollars
Speaker 10: plus on both sides. You know, last time Republicans in
Speaker 10: twenty twenty were I'd spent eight billion to two billion
Speaker 10: if you've had it all up. So there's a lot
Speaker 10: of money slashing around politics in the United States.
Speaker 1: But you're right.
Speaker 10: I mean, she'll be a powerful fundraiser, but that may
Speaker 10: not be able to make up for her personal limitations.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's look at the revelations from FBI
Speaker 2: Director Christopher Ray today, and it was revealed that Thomas
Speaker 2: Matthew Crooks, that of course, was the gunman who tried
Speaker 2: to kill Trump. Will he researched the jfk assassination a
Speaker 2: week before he tried to kill Trump. We now know
Speaker 2: that he typed into Google. Half our away was Oswald
Speaker 2: from Kennedy. He was also flying a drone for eleven
Speaker 2: whole minutes, eleven minutes of a drone flying in the
Speaker 2: air around where Trump was about to speak, right before
Speaker 2: the attempted assassination. What did you think of these revelations
Speaker 2: and Christopher Raise evidence today.
Speaker 10: Well, it was good to hear from Chris what they
Speaker 10: have learned so far. I think it was much better
Speaker 10: than these former Secret Service director who gave us no
Speaker 10: answers and really raised more questions. But at the same time,
Speaker 10: there are still too many questions. This was a massive failure.
Speaker 10: You know, we almost lost President Trump, whether by luck
Speaker 10: or some of us, like myself, believed revine providence. You know,
Speaker 10: he is alive, but there were too many single points
Speaker 10: of failure that.
Speaker 1: Have been revealed.
Speaker 10: And I also am concerned that a lot of what
Speaker 10: we learned is from leaks previously to director Raised testimony.
Speaker 1: And I worked with Chris.
Speaker 10: Ray both in the Bush administration and in the Trump administration,
Speaker 10: and I know him to be a street shooter. I
Speaker 10: think I wish he would be a little stronger leader
Speaker 10: at the FBI. But that being said, I think he did,
Speaker 10: you know, lay out what they know and where they're
Speaker 10: going with this investigation.
Speaker 2: His performance was definitely far more impressive than the head
Speaker 2: of the Secret Service, who obviously had to step down
Speaker 2: after hurt shocking performance. But no question, there needs to
Speaker 2: be a proper inquiry so we can find out how
Speaker 2: this happened. Now, just before you go, I want to
Speaker 2: ask you your view. The Secret Service has said or
Speaker 2: they've advised Trump's campaign to stop doing outdoor rallies. Now,
Speaker 2: Trump is famous for his outdoor rallies. He loves them,
Speaker 2: his fans love them. It's kind of his trademark. What
Speaker 2: do you think about this? I mean, they're admitting effectively
Speaker 2: that they can't properly guarantee his security.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I've been to probably more rallies than
Speaker 10: I can count, having helped him win the Iowa Caucuses
Speaker 10: and having you know, been to so many of the
Speaker 10: outdoor rallies and the indoor rallies. And you're right, I mean,
Speaker 10: the president enjoys the outdoor rallies, but they obviously, you know,
Speaker 10: we learned our harder secure. But at the same time,
Speaker 10: I think you add it all up and until the
Speaker 10: Secret Service gets their act together, and until they learn
Speaker 10: these lessons that we should have learned when JFK was assassinated.
Speaker 10: I think you know that it is probably correct to
Speaker 10: do a few indoor rallies. The problem is that the
Speaker 10: rallies serve a couple purposes. One is to obviously get
Speaker 10: the Trump supporters in the base together. But at the
Speaker 10: same time, I think the other thing that it does
Speaker 10: is it shows force, and it shows a strength of
Speaker 10: the campaign and the grassroots that Donald Trump only can bring.
Speaker 2: All right, Matt wat Katt really appreciate your time this
Speaker 2: evening or early morning for you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: And Matt of course former acting Attorney General in the
Speaker 2: United States. Now, if the recent political shakeups in the
Speaker 2: White House weren't enough, today, as I said earlier in
Speaker 2: the show, we saw unprecedented levels of chaos in Washington.
Speaker 2: The American flag burned, her Musk supporters saying that her
Speaker 2: muss was coming to the US. This was just outrageous.
Speaker 2: And all of this was because Israeli Prime Minister Benjainette
Speaker 2: and Yaho delivered a powerful argument for Western support of
Speaker 2: Israel in Congress. Here's another part of what he had
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 4: It's a clash between barbarism and civilization. It's a clash
Speaker 4: between those who glorified death and those who sanctify life.
Speaker 4: For the forces of civilization to triumph, America and Israel
Speaker 4: must stand together.
Speaker 2: By the way, Elon Musk was sitting in the crowd
Speaker 2: in Congress watching that speech. He was a guest of Netanyahu's,
Speaker 2: so even more reason to like Elon Musk. Let's bring
Speaker 2: in now IRNC spokesperson Elizabeth Pipco, Elizabeth, welcome to the show. Look,
Speaker 2: during Netanyahu's address, we saw dozens of Democrats. Have seen
Speaker 2: reports that it was fifty. Other reports say eighty, but
Speaker 2: either way, a large number of Democrats actually walked out.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is meant to be a democracy. You
Speaker 2: don't have to like Nettunya who you can hate him,
Speaker 2: but surely they should at least show the respect of
Speaker 2: listening to what he has to say.
Speaker 5: I completely agree. I said it yesterday. Actually, unless the
Speaker 5: reports have changed. According to Axios yesterday, nearly half of
Speaker 5: elected Democrats that not show up for the speech, Like
Speaker 5: you said, they should just hear him out and listen
Speaker 5: to what he has to say. This is the democratically
Speaker 5: elected leader of one of our strongest and closest allies.
Speaker 1: It's also the.
Speaker 5: Leader of a country currently fighting for its survival unless
Speaker 5: excuse me, against a terrorist group. A terrorist group that is,
Speaker 5: like he mentioned last night, not just Israel's enemy but
Speaker 5: also our enemy here in the United States. Let's not
Speaker 5: forget there are also American hostages still locked up right now,
Speaker 5: still being held by this group. And he is fighting,
Speaker 5: just like we would hopefully be fighting, to release those hostages,
Speaker 5: to bring them home. And to not show up to
Speaker 5: his speech the shere disrespect from him and by the way,
Speaker 5: respect from him, but also from the Vice president. Let's
Speaker 5: not forget. This is a man who showed up knowing
Speaker 5: that nearly half of Democrats weren't going to be there,
Speaker 5: but not assuming that the vice president of the United
Speaker 5: States would not even show up, the person who's now
Speaker 5: the presumptive nominee running for president here. For the Democrat
Speaker 5: Party to not show up when Israel is in this
Speaker 5: war again, when Americans are still held hostage, I think
Speaker 5: was disgraceful. And you mentioned what was going on outside
Speaker 5: that might have been even worse than the lack of
Speaker 5: support inside. These are far left protesters burning the American flag,
Speaker 5: as a leader of another country stands and applauds those
Speaker 5: that support and stand for our flag inside. So I
Speaker 5: think the contrast could not be more evident. And I
Speaker 5: truly am just saddened as a proud American for what
Speaker 5: I start happening yesterday.
Speaker 2: And you know what, it's not just that it was
Speaker 2: disrespectful to Neeta Yaoho. He's a politician, he can take it.
Speaker 2: But Noah Agamani was there. She was She became one
Speaker 2: of the most famous hostages around the world when she
Speaker 2: was kidnapped on October seven. You know, the beautiful young
Speaker 2: girl on the back of a motorcycle, kidnapped by her musk,
Speaker 2: rescued only recently in a risky and daring mission by
Speaker 2: Israel which cost one Israeli soldier their life. She was rescued.
Speaker 2: She was there today watching Netanyahu's address. How would she
Speaker 2: have felt to arrive in the Capitol and see all
Speaker 2: these people saying her muss is coming and supporting her muscle.
Speaker 2: The trauma, the heartlessness, it's just shocking. And now I
Speaker 2: want to turn to your role as a spokesperson for
Speaker 2: the Republican Party. How do you think Donald Trump, your party,
Speaker 2: the Republicans are going to have to shift their messaging
Speaker 2: now to take on Kamala Harrison. Are you more worried
Speaker 2: about her winning than you were Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: So it's a fair question.
Speaker 5: It's what a lot of people are discussing right now,
Speaker 5: and I think for us, the strategy remains the same. Look,
Speaker 5: we can't deny the fact that Kamala Harris was on
Speaker 5: this ticket right with Joe Biden. She was in this
Speaker 5: administration with Joe Biden the entire time. She owns the
Speaker 5: failures of this administration. She owns everything that the American
Speaker 5: people are feeling right now, and she owns the fact
Speaker 5: that we still don't know how Joe Biden is doing.
Speaker 5: We still don't know how long he has been in
Speaker 5: this decline. We still don't know what happened at that
Speaker 5: last debate, We don't know what people around him knew,
Speaker 5: including Kamala Harris, And she has to own all of
Speaker 5: that because the American people deserve some kind of answers.
Speaker 5: So I think for us, it's about just being transparent here,
Speaker 5: being honest. Everybody knows everything they need to know about
Speaker 5: Donald Trump and where he stands on every single issue.
Speaker 5: They've known for a while that he was going to
Speaker 5: be the nominee as well. And for us, it's about
Speaker 5: going against not the individual that is Kamala Harris, but
Speaker 5: the policies of this administration, the policies of the left,
Speaker 5: and the policies that the majority of Americans agree right
Speaker 5: now are just not working for them.
Speaker 2: But what is this answer? You more worried about taking
Speaker 2: her on than Joe Biden.
Speaker 5: We're certainly not more worried, but it's it's you know,
Speaker 5: it's an interesting time in American politics right We don't
Speaker 5: even know yet if she is one hundred percent going
Speaker 5: to be the candidate. We certainly don't know who her
Speaker 5: vice president is going to be. And I think three
Speaker 5: months out from an election to kind of know that
Speaker 5: this is what's happening, it's weird for us to know
Speaker 5: that that's where the American people are right now, not
Speaker 5: knowing what their choice is. It's weird for us not
Speaker 5: knowing who our competitors are. But against we are a
Speaker 5: party right now going against another party which we don't
Speaker 5: believe has the best interest of the American people in mind.
Speaker 5: That's all that we need to know and what was
Speaker 5: on display yesterday you and I just talked about is
Speaker 5: all the American people need to know. She was not
Speaker 5: there as American flags were being burned, and a speech
Speaker 5: of our ally, who's fighting a war technically with the
Speaker 5: American people right now to release our own hostages was
Speaker 5: completely ignored by her. And that's all people need to
Speaker 5: know about this candidate and this ticket.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Elizabeth Pipco, thank you very much for
Speaker 2: your time. Now still to come as Democrats walk out.
Speaker 2: Annette Yahoo, a mother whose young daughter is still being
Speaker 2: held hostage, will join me next. Plus what went down
Speaker 2: on Wall Street with the one trillion dollar wipeout? And
Speaker 2: could we be facing a recession here in Australia. All
Speaker 2: that and more coming up welcome back. Well, even more
Speaker 2: economists are concerned that we could potentially face a recession
Speaker 2: in Australia. We're going to come back to that in
Speaker 2: a moment, But first let's look back at two hundred
Speaker 2: and ninety two days ago when twenty three year old
Speaker 2: Romy Gonen was taken hostage by her mus at the
Speaker 2: Nova Music Festival. She was shot and captured along with
Speaker 2: three of her friends. Well, Romy's mother, Merav Leshem Gonen
Speaker 2: joins me live now. Thank you so much your time.
Speaker 2: Really appreciate it. I can can't even possibly imagine how
Speaker 2: difficult it is for you to speak about this topic.
Speaker 2: So we do appreciate your time. Look your daughter around
Speaker 2: you while she was trying to escape being taken by
Speaker 2: her mask on October seven. Can you tell us what
Speaker 2: she said to you in that phone call?
Speaker 9: Well, she was on the phone with us for four
Speaker 9: and a half hours on the phone or on what'sapp.
Speaker 9: But the last phone call started at ten fourteen, and
Speaker 9: when she was you know, I was picking up the
Speaker 9: phone and she said, Mom, hair was shot, I'm bleeding
Speaker 9: and I think I'm going to die, and that her
Speaker 9: friend is not speaking anymore. Her friend said in the
Speaker 9: front and that the driver was killed. And that's how
Speaker 9: the phone call started. Forty five minutes of which I'm
Speaker 9: trying to help, trying to see who can come and
Speaker 9: rescue my daughter, trying to talk to the army, to
Speaker 9: the police, trying to understand where she is, and hearing
Speaker 9: around her all the shooting and the fighting that were
Speaker 9: going on around the car. And finally I heard them,
Speaker 9: the terrorists coming to the car, opening the door trying
Speaker 9: to start the car and speaking about my daughter, saying
Speaker 9: she's alive, and then going to her side of the
Speaker 9: car and taking her out by her long beautiful hair
Speaker 9: and pulling her on the road, hurting her back, and
Speaker 9: when she was trying to look and see what is
Speaker 9: going on, she was punched in the face and then
Speaker 9: the phone was hang out.
Speaker 2: And merav that was the last time you spoke to
Speaker 2: your daughter that phone call.
Speaker 9: Yes, yes, you have to understand. Being held by Chamas
Speaker 9: is not a prison. This is not prison.
Speaker 1: This is.
Speaker 9: Pere hatred, pure evil terrorists that holding my daughter and
Speaker 9: other women and men underground in tunnels, no phone call,
Speaker 9: nobody visits them, no doctor, no nothing. My daughter is
Speaker 9: there underground for two hundred and twenty and ninety three
Speaker 9: days already, and I expect the world to shout to
Speaker 9: say something. Twelve women are still alive there and some
Speaker 9: of the men are also alive.
Speaker 2: Who used to say still alive? And we absolutely pray
Speaker 2: with everything that your daughter is still alive. What have
Speaker 2: you got news of her? Have you what makes you
Speaker 2: believe that she is still holding on?
Speaker 9: First time a mother, I know she's alive. This is nowhere,
Speaker 9: There is nowhere you mean, and I'm sure about mother's instinct, yes,
Speaker 9: but this is not just the instinct. We know from
Speaker 9: the women that came back on the last deal that
Speaker 9: they were with her in the tunnels. I know she
Speaker 9: was alive. I know she is alive, and I know
Speaker 9: we have to bring her back as soon as possible.
Speaker 9: Just yesterday we got the message about two of the
Speaker 9: men that were murdered in Commas, and and five bodies
Speaker 9: were returned yesterday from people who were murdered also by
Speaker 9: the Commas. This is an impossible state. These are, you know, civilians.
Speaker 9: My daughter is almost one four, she will be in
Speaker 9: August twenty four. This is something unimaginable.
Speaker 2: It truly is very passion I don't know how you
Speaker 2: bear it every single day for the past nine and
Speaker 2: a half months. I can't We can't even begin to
Speaker 2: imagine what your nights are like, how you possibly sleep
Speaker 2: and survive. You've said that one of your biggest concerns
Speaker 2: for Romi is any sexual assault that she might be
Speaker 2: facing at the hands of these terrorists, and and tragically,
Speaker 2: we know that rape is something that harmas uses as
Speaker 2: a as a taller weapon of war. I understand you
Speaker 2: spoke to United Nations officials recently. Is this something that
Speaker 2: you raised with them?
Speaker 9: I was in the last Committee of Human Rights, and
Speaker 9: everything I heard them was everything except human rights, at
Speaker 9: least a human rights of Jewish people, because they were
Speaker 9: talking about what is happening to the women in prison
Speaker 9: as merly a parade, which was they were shouted at
Speaker 9: and that's all. But we know we heard Amtsusana. Amitsusana
Speaker 9: already said she has a very long testimony of what
Speaker 9: happened to her in Gaza, and we need the world
Speaker 9: to understand Hamas is raping women. I don't know which
Speaker 9: of the hostages is being Each and every one of
Speaker 9: them is actually harassed in some way, even if it
Speaker 9: is only a man that is looking at you twenty
Speaker 9: four hours a day, seven days a week, every minute.
Speaker 9: Even when you go to the bathroom, if there is
Speaker 9: a bathroom, it's not exactly a bathroom in the tunnels.
Speaker 9: I don't know if you saw the pictures, of course,
Speaker 9: So the human rights of the UN, I guess they
Speaker 9: don't see Jewish women as something that deserves to have
Speaker 9: a privaty or you know, I don't have words to say.
Speaker 9: I was so angry when I visited the committee and
Speaker 9: I had a speech of five minutes of which I exclaimed,
Speaker 9: the world Hamas is pure evil. It's very nice to
Speaker 9: stay very nice things in a cozy, warm or cold
Speaker 9: place where you are protected. But I want to see
Speaker 9: each and every one of this committee guys coming to
Speaker 9: gus and trying to say the same.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. It's absolutely disgusting that all
Speaker 2: the women's groups and all these so called feminists haven't
Speaker 2: been fighting for the return of the hostages. Mirav. All
Speaker 2: of our hearts go out to you. We pray for
Speaker 2: the day that you are able to hold your little
Speaker 2: girl in your arms again.
Speaker 1: Look, we on build the same.
Speaker 2: It's so hard, and we just have to applaud you
Speaker 2: on your courage for doing media interviews like this one.
Speaker 2: We can't even imagine how hard it is for you
Speaker 2: to speak out, but you're doing it. And when your
Speaker 2: daughter comes home, because we believe she will come home
Speaker 2: when she is, I'm sure she'll be so proud of
Speaker 2: your courage. So Merav, thank you very.
Speaker 9: Much, Thank you, thank you very much to you too.
Speaker 2: Now, after the break, more concerns or recession could be
Speaker 2: on the cards. While in the US, a one trillion
Speaker 2: dollar Wall Street wipe out, plus Fadam a payman's audacity
Speaker 2: and demanding Albanezi give her even more resources after she'd
Speaker 2: left the labor fault. My panel, welcome back. Well, let's
Speaker 2: bring in tonight's panel now commentator Jason Morrison, who happens
Speaker 2: to be in the Fox News studio in New York,
Speaker 2: and PR Council Managing Director Christy McSweeney. Good to see
Speaker 2: you both, Jason, Christy, Let's have a look at the
Speaker 2: economy because we're hearing this report from Deloit Access Economics
Speaker 2: that warns another rate hike, and we are expecting there
Speaker 2: to be at least one, potentially two, and Warren Hogan
Speaker 2: last night said that even could be three rate hikes
Speaker 2: this year. I doubt that'll happen, but we are expecting
Speaker 2: rate hikes this year, and Deloitte economists are saying that
Speaker 2: this actually could push us over into a recession. So Christy,
Speaker 2: this is a very fine line that the alban Ezy government,
Speaker 2: that the Treasurer of Jim Chalmers needs to walk here
Speaker 2: to try and you know, take the pressure off inflation
Speaker 2: and the RBA as well, of course without falling into recession.
Speaker 11: The government has two options here, waite and hope and
Speaker 11: pray that the RBI gives them some reprieve between the
Speaker 11: end of this year and the full term of March
Speaker 11: next year for the election, or hope, which I don't
Speaker 11: think is possible, that their own policies around setting white
Speaker 11: hikes for certain union cohorts and working with the AC
Speaker 11: to you to deliver wage increases, is going to reset
Speaker 11: the economy and increase productivity.
Speaker 1: It won't.
Speaker 11: Like all the economists that you mentioned suggesting that we
Speaker 11: will have another right hike, there is not an economist
Speaker 11: in Australia who's suggesting that any of the libor's industrial
Speaker 11: relations agenda is going to increase productivity and do something
Speaker 11: to off set the cost of living and the spiraling
Speaker 11: cost of goods and consumer household spending that we are
Speaker 11: in in Australia. So I think we'll go full term
Speaker 11: to the election with one or possibly two rate hikes
Speaker 11: under our belt.
Speaker 2: Well, they will certainly be hoping that there's a cut
Speaker 2: at least in the first quarter of next year. But Jason, meanwhile,
Speaker 2: Wall Street had its worst day in almost two years.
Speaker 2: Trillion dollars wiped off stocks. Tesla is one of the
Speaker 2: stocks that had a sharp fall. What else can you
Speaker 2: tell us? You're in New York, Jason, what else is
Speaker 2: to blame for this Wall Street result?
Speaker 8: I can tell you I'm as broke today as I
Speaker 8: was yesterday. So for a personal level, like everyone, it
Speaker 8: doesn't really matter where these graphs go. It just sort
Speaker 8: of feels like it's the same story. All I can
Speaker 8: tell you here is that everyone is saying, you know, shock, horror,
Speaker 8: big dip. But the real story is you look at
Speaker 8: the long term and for the last twelve months, it's
Speaker 8: been up and up and up and up and up
Speaker 8: and up, and it had a little bit of a
Speaker 8: down yesterday. And to give you some context there's always
Speaker 8: worth getting context, is that yesterday's down took us back
Speaker 8: about a week and a half of the ups. So
Speaker 8: for all the shock and horror of these statistics, the
Speaker 8: truth is it's been good earnings for quite a bit
Speaker 8: of time.
Speaker 1: It's this parallel universe.
Speaker 8: It's like the Australian share market. It's doing well, yet
Speaker 8: all of us don't feel like we're doing well. And
Speaker 8: I guess in a time when you know, they keep
Speaker 8: telling us it's about constraint and restraint, and the same
Speaker 8: messages over in the United States. At the moment, I
Speaker 8: got to say, I have never seen things more expensive here,
Speaker 8: and the same way I've never felt it as expensive
Speaker 8: it is back home. We've got very similar kind of
Speaker 8: problems at the moment with big taxing governments that just
Speaker 8: seem to find ways to push up our prices through
Speaker 8: stupid decisions. And if it's not in Australia electricity bills,
Speaker 8: I was stunned to see how much they pay for
Speaker 8: electricity in the US metrol excise and Australia is about
Speaker 8: to go up soon. So it's all sort of flowing
Speaker 8: into each other. But that's the real story of the
Speaker 8: Wall Street drop. It's just a balance out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let's quickly have a look at farmer labor
Speaker 2: Senator Fatima payment. She's made a big request of Albaneze,
Speaker 2: even though she walked out on him, crossed the floor.
Speaker 2: She's now asking for extra staff, according to this story
Speaker 2: in The Nightly, as she embarks on a twelve day
Speaker 2: listening tour of regional w A town's Christy. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure this is a word she'd use, but this is
Speaker 2: some hutzpat from Fatima payment.
Speaker 11: Absolutely, I agree with you. I'm not sure if some
Speaker 11: word she would use either, she would probably use it
Speaker 11: as entitlement. First of all, I don't think fatim payment
Speaker 11: has ever been to regional Western Australia. I'm a regional
Speaker 11: Western Australian. There's nobody there that's ever heard of her.
Speaker 11: I'm not entirely sure why she wants to go on
Speaker 11: a tour of regional Western Australia. Second of all, I
Speaker 11: campaigned at that election, that same election of which Senator
Speaker 11: Payment was elected at, not one single constituent or one
Speaker 11: single lie raised support for Palestine with me as an
Speaker 11: issue that's highly relevant to the constituency overall of Western
Speaker 11: Australia and wymps on both sides of Parliament tell me
Speaker 11: there's not a significant volume of correspondence coming into the office.
Speaker 11: That's interesting because the way that you know, some labor
Speaker 11: politicians are very worried about it in marginal seats in
Speaker 11: Sydney and Melbourne.
Speaker 8: Jason, Yeah, this is the diversity pick gone wrong. And
Speaker 8: you know one of the stories that goes with the
Speaker 8: diversity movement is take take take guess what she's doing.
Speaker 2: Anyone shocked really mm, well, well you can ask for
Speaker 2: more resources, but albin Eezy can easily say no. But
Speaker 2: I think the point I was trying to get at
Speaker 2: is that are these independent Muslim candidates who are considering
Speaker 2: I mean, they seem like the groupings in a bit
Speaker 2: of disarray at the moment, but they are threatening to
Speaker 2: run against Labor politicians, and there are Labor politicians in
Speaker 2: marginal seats in Western Sydney and in Melbourne where this
Speaker 2: could be a real issue in this domestic politics. It
Speaker 2: is part of the reason that many think, including me,
Speaker 2: that Foreign Minister Pennywong, you know, did what she did today,
Speaker 2: that why she is being so publicly critical of Israel.
Speaker 2: But look the Labor Party national conference, there's going to
Speaker 2: be a lot of pro Palestinian protesters. They're already security concerns,
Speaker 2: so this is going to be a big issue to come.
Speaker 2: Jason Morrison, Christy McSweeney, thank you both very much for
Speaker 2: your time, and that's it for me this week. I'll
Speaker 2: see you Monday at eight o'clock and up now for
Speaker 2: Myriy life.