WEBVTT - Sharri | 25 July

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<v Speaker 1>Live on Sky News. This is Sharry.

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<v Speaker 2>Good Evening. Massive newsday today, both in the US and locally.

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<v Speaker 2>The leader of the Free World, Joe Biden, could barely

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<v Speaker 2>deliver a coherent speech the US capital overrun by Hamas

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<v Speaker 2>supporters and Israeli Prime Minister Benjaminett and Yahoo delivered his

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<v Speaker 2>most powerful argument yet for Western support of Israel. You

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<v Speaker 2>can hardly compare Biden's weak remarks with the strength of

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<v Speaker 2>the Israeli leader.

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<v Speaker 3>And that day, I told you, as I stood in

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<v Speaker 3>that winter, We're still in a winter of peril and

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<v Speaker 3>winner possibility for.

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<v Speaker 4>The forces of civilization to triumph. America and Israel must

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<v Speaker 4>stand together.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet eighty Democrats who claimed to support democracy couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>even sit there and listen to what Netinnahu had to say.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to come back to that in a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Here in Australia, meanwhile, economists are warning a recession could

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<v Speaker 2>be on the cards. This is Wall Street had its

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<v Speaker 2>worst day in almost two years, with a one trillion

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<v Speaker 2>dollar wipeout, and Albinezie announced the retirement of two ministers,

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<v Speaker 2>sparking a cabinet reshuffle. This opens the way for Andrew Giles'

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<v Speaker 2>demotion finally, well, let's get into it tonight.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>In his speech, Joe Biden vowed to call out hate, extremism,

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<v Speaker 2>and violence, Yet the very city from where he spoke

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<v Speaker 2>had just been overrun by lawlessness, vile, racism, and anarchy.

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<v Speaker 2>Washington today looked more like the harmass headquarters in Gaza

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<v Speaker 2>than it did the heart and soul of America. Her

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<v Speaker 2>Musk supporters, and we have to repeat that seriously, her

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<v Speaker 2>Musk supporters. How can they even be supporters for the

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<v Speaker 2>gun toting monsters who behead, rape and slaughter innocent families.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet there are, and they turned out in Washington, defiling

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<v Speaker 2>the Christopher Columbus Memorial Fountain with the words her muss

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<v Speaker 2>is coming. Yep, the killers, butchers and rapists are coming.

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<v Speaker 2>These vile activists burned an effigy of Netanyahoo, the Prime

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<v Speaker 2>minister who's trying to eliminate the terrorists and bring home

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<v Speaker 2>innocent hostages from Gaza, including a baby, his little brother,

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<v Speaker 2>and their mum. Those two children stolen it just nine

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<v Speaker 2>months old and four years old, the world's youngest hostages.

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<v Speaker 2>The pro Palestinian activists burned the American and Israeli flags

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<v Speaker 2>while waving the green her Musk flag and chanting palisine

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<v Speaker 2>will be free, aligned, will be free sign and a

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<v Speaker 2>massive Palestinian flag where Hamas is the current governing body,

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<v Speaker 2>was unfurled on the street. The American flag torn down

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<v Speaker 2>from Union station and instead the Palestinian flag was hoisted

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<v Speaker 2>and flown. The Hamas supporters grew violent. They clashed with police,

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<v Speaker 2>who used tear gas to control the crowd. There were

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<v Speaker 2>many arrests. Now, it's one thing to mourn the loss

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<v Speaker 2>of life in Gaza. It is tragic and we all

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<v Speaker 2>mourn it. And you may disagree with how Israel has

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<v Speaker 2>pursued Hamas in Gaza, but to support Hermas, to support

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<v Speaker 2>the terrorists who not only forced Israel into this war

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<v Speaker 2>that it never won, but deliberately put its own people,

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<v Speaker 2>the Palestinian people, in harm's way day after day, by

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<v Speaker 2>hiding within civilian populations, by refusing to cooperate with ceasefire proposals,

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<v Speaker 2>and by welcoming a high death toll in order to

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<v Speaker 2>turn the West against Israel. Every single soul who has

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<v Speaker 2>perished in this war is entirely on her Muss's hands.

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<v Speaker 2>Her must chose to start the war nine months ago,

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<v Speaker 2>but it also could have ended the war at any

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<v Speaker 2>point since then if it's simply chose to hand back

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<v Speaker 2>innocent hostages, young people and surrender. But there's a reason

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<v Speaker 2>her mus won't hand back hostages. There's a reason her

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<v Speaker 2>Musk refuses every ceasefire proposal, and it's this. The terrorist

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<v Speaker 2>group wants to prolong the war because while they're losing

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<v Speaker 2>ground in Gaza, they're winning internationally with more support than

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<v Speaker 2>ever in the West, especially among the idiotic, confused millennials

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<v Speaker 2>who sadly make up our next generation. But there can

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<v Speaker 2>be no confusion. To support her Muss, as we saw

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<v Speaker 2>in Washington today, is to support evil. It's to support

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<v Speaker 2>among the most malicious and barbaric acts ever inflicted on

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<v Speaker 2>human beings, on par with Hitler's atrocities. To support her

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<v Speaker 2>Muss is to unequivocally be on the wrong side of

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<v Speaker 2>history and humanity. Now, Benjamin Netanyahu unquestionably a controversial politician,

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<v Speaker 2>loved and loathed by Israeli's in almost equal measure. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>he did deliver a powerful speech today where he articulated

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<v Speaker 2>very clearly the enemy his country is up against.

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<v Speaker 4>These monsters. They rape women, they beheaded men, they burnt

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<v Speaker 4>babies alive. They killed parents in front of their children,

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<v Speaker 4>and children in front of their parents. They dragged two

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and fifty five people, both living and dead, into

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<v Speaker 4>the dark dungeons of Gaza. The ICC is trying to

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<v Speaker 4>shackle Israel's hands and prevent us from defending ourselves. And

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<v Speaker 4>if Israel's hands are tied, America is next. And I'll

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<v Speaker 4>tell you what else is next. The ability of all

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<v Speaker 4>democracies to fight terrorism will be imperiled. That's what's on

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<v Speaker 4>the line.

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<v Speaker 2>And He's right, And those protesters who burned the American

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<v Speaker 2>flag only reinforced Netanyahu's point to Congress that Israel's enemies

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<v Speaker 2>are America's enemies.

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<v Speaker 4>Defeating our brutal enemies requires both courage and clarity. Clarity

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<v Speaker 4>begins by knowing the difference between good and evil. Yet

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<v Speaker 4>incredibly many anti Israel protesters, many choose to stand with evil.

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<v Speaker 4>They stand with hamas they stand with rapists and murderers.

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<v Speaker 4>They should be ashamed of themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>So as this debate heats up internationally, including in Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>let's be very clear. Israel is trying to eliminate the

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<v Speaker 2>terrorists who killed entire families and stole hostages.

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<v Speaker 1>There could be.

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<v Speaker 2>No other response than to eliminate the terrorists, much the

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<v Speaker 2>same way that America went after Osama bin Laden and

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<v Speaker 2>the other perpetrators of nine to eleven, much the same

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<v Speaker 2>way the Allies destroyed the Nazis in World War Two.

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<v Speaker 2>Despite the heavy loss of life, and there were an

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<v Speaker 2>estimated forty million civilians killed in the World War, no

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<v Speaker 2>civilized government would abandon two hundred and fifty innocent citizens, including,

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<v Speaker 2>as I said, a baby and his four year old brother,

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<v Speaker 2>to the grips of armed terrorists. Any rational person would

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<v Speaker 2>agree that that notion is intolerable and impossible. Yet the

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<v Speaker 2>scenes on the streets of Washington today show us that

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<v Speaker 2>the longer this war wage is on, the more the

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<v Speaker 2>woke brigade find a reason to condone terrorism and find

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<v Speaker 2>excuses for anti Semitism. And I'll be crossing live to

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<v Speaker 2>the United States to break all of this down. And

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<v Speaker 2>it was a big day. Biden's speech will come back

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<v Speaker 2>to that. I'm going to have former acting Attorney General

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<v Speaker 2>in the Trump administration on the show. Also a Republican

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<v Speaker 2>National Committee spokeswoman. Shortly, but now let's bring in tonight's panel.

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<v Speaker 2>The Australians National Affairs Editor Joe Kelly and National Senator

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Canavan. Welcome to you both. I first want to

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<v Speaker 2>start with Netanyahu's speech to Congress that I've just been

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<v Speaker 2>speaking about. What's your analysis of the pitch that he

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<v Speaker 2>delivered to some of them quite hostile Congress members.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, Cherry, good to be on the program. I too,

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<v Speaker 6>thought it was a very powerful speech by Benjamin Netanyahu.

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<v Speaker 6>I think he made the case that this is a

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<v Speaker 6>conflict in which America is fighting, in which Israel is

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<v Speaker 6>fighting a new barbarism. This is not a clash of civilizations,

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<v Speaker 6>as Samuel Huntington suggested. This is a clash for the

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<v Speaker 6>future of democracy and the values which we share, that

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<v Speaker 6>Israel shares with America and which Australia should share as well.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it was a very powerful pitch, but I

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<v Speaker 6>do think that there is a divide in the American

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<v Speaker 6>political system. We saw very strong criticism of netnya who

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<v Speaker 6>made by a number of prominent Democrats, and I think

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<v Speaker 6>that they are growing increasingly frustrated with him because there

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<v Speaker 6>are reports that the Biden administration is trying to work

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<v Speaker 6>on a broader political solution.

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<v Speaker 1>To end the conflict.

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<v Speaker 6>This would still see a phased release of hostages, but

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<v Speaker 6>essentially it would try and come up with a solution

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<v Speaker 6>in which Israel and key Arab nations could come together

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<v Speaker 6>to oppose the new power and threat represented by Irand

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<v Speaker 6>so I think that there is a fundamental difference in strategy,

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<v Speaker 6>and I do also think that this could play into

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<v Speaker 6>the political contest going forward. I think it would do

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<v Speaker 6>a great service for Kamala Harris if Joe Biden and

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<v Speaker 6>Benjamin Netanya who were able to come together and actually

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<v Speaker 6>on a plan to try and get a negotiated outcome

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<v Speaker 6>that's acceptable to everyone. But obviously that will be a

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<v Speaker 6>very difficult task.

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<v Speaker 2>Character Yeah, indeed, and there is the concern that Kamala

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<v Speaker 2>Harris may have, or in fact she does, have a

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<v Speaker 2>more critical view on Israel than Biden, does. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Despite the tensions in Biden and Netanyahu's relationship, and there

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<v Speaker 2>are tensions there, unquestionably they've spilled over into the public domain.

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<v Speaker 2>Biden has over his entire career been a firm supporter

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<v Speaker 2>of Israel, as has the United States whoever has been

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<v Speaker 2>in power. Matt Biden spoke for the first time since

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<v Speaker 2>announcing he was quitting the presidential race. Let's have a

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<v Speaker 2>listen to that.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've decided the best way forward is the past,

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<v Speaker 3>the torch for new generation. It's the best waiting an

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<v Speaker 3>in our nation. You know, there is a time and

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<v Speaker 3>a place for long years of experience in public life.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's also a time and a place for new voices,

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<v Speaker 3>fresh voices, yes, younger voices, and that time and places now.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Canavan, I thought that was quite a feeble speech,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know it also, it really was incredible to

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<v Speaker 2>think that just last week he said only the Lord

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<v Speaker 2>Almighty could stop him from running again. And then there

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<v Speaker 2>was no explanation for why he suddenly came to the

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<v Speaker 2>epiphany that it was time to pass the torch to

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<v Speaker 2>a younger generation.

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<v Speaker 7>What do you think, Well, the only explanation was that

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<v Speaker 7>he'd lost the support of his own party.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the brief explanation he gave.

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<v Speaker 7>Obviously, he felt he was still capable of running and

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<v Speaker 7>winning the election. Look, I thought the speech ticked the boxes,

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<v Speaker 7>so to speak of HARKing back to America's story beginning

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<v Speaker 7>and ideals that it was founded upon. But there is

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<v Speaker 7>this still I think tension in the arguments that the

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<v Speaker 7>Democratic Party are putting forward in apparently they're running to

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<v Speaker 7>save democracy for all Americans sometimes even the world. Yet

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<v Speaker 7>if the American people were to elect and vote for

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<v Speaker 7>their opponents, that somehow would end democracy. I don't know

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<v Speaker 7>how that circle is squared. I mean, that is democracy.

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<v Speaker 7>It's up to the people to decide. But somehow to

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<v Speaker 7>suggest that the election, the election of your political opponent

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<v Speaker 7>would end a democracy as we know it just seems

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<v Speaker 7>completely absurd and nonsensical. So look, I think I sort

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<v Speaker 7>of hope perhaps after the shocking events of the last

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<v Speaker 7>couple of weeks and the almost assassination of Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 7>that some of that outlandish rhetoric would be softened, But

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<v Speaker 7>it doesn't seem to be the case.

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<v Speaker 1>It still heightens the stakes on.

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<v Speaker 7>All of these questions, which should be brought down to

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<v Speaker 7>more on the ground level in my view.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Joe, I thought the actual crafting of the speech,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the speechwriters did a good job. Some of

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<v Speaker 2>it was beautiful if it would have been delivered well,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, it was so hard to watch. You

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<v Speaker 2>wanted him to give an impressive performance because this is

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<v Speaker 2>such a legacy defining speech, was such an important speech

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<v Speaker 2>for him. He had his family there, they were emotional,

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<v Speaker 2>but you just got the sense the whole time that

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<v Speaker 2>he was struggling to read it. He was a minute

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<v Speaker 2>away from a stumble or a gaffer. It was just weak.

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<v Speaker 6>What did you think, Cherry, You mentioned just their legacy

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<v Speaker 6>sort of defining speech for I think the problem for

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<v Speaker 6>Joe Biden is he wants to convince Americans now that

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<v Speaker 6>this was never about him. It wasn't about his personal ambition.

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<v Speaker 6>He revers the office, but he loves America more. He's

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<v Speaker 6>putting American families first. But the reality is I think

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<v Speaker 6>the problem with the speech is everyone knows that that's

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<v Speaker 6>not authentic, that's not real. As Matt said, what happened.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, even two weeks ago, Joe Biden said it

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<v Speaker 6>would take God Almighty himself, yes, to come down heaven

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<v Speaker 6>and tell him you better withdraw from the race. Well,

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<v Speaker 6>that didn't happen. He lost the support, he lost the

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<v Speaker 6>support of his party.

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<v Speaker 2>And as of course, you think that Nancy Pelosi is

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<v Speaker 2>God Almighty and probably some people revere her as much

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<v Speaker 2>as if she was God.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, look, I think you talked about legacy. I think

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<v Speaker 6>he talked about unity for the party, but I think

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<v Speaker 6>what's happened is he held on too long. The party

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<v Speaker 6>now has been forced to rally around Kamala Harris. It

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<v Speaker 6>hasn't had an open and competitive process nomination process, and

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<v Speaker 6>if she goes on to lose the presidential election, I

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<v Speaker 6>think the legacy issue for Joe Biden will be that

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<v Speaker 6>he effectively handicapped the Democrats by holding on for too long.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think that a lot of the lofty ideals

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<v Speaker 6>which he expressed today will be seen as inauthentic. So

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<v Speaker 6>that's the dilemmas. And obviously had to say all those things,

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<v Speaker 6>but I'm not sure they had the ring of truth.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, now turned to federal politics in Australia, and after

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<v Speaker 2>weeks of speculation, Anthony Alberinezi finally today announced the resignation

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<v Speaker 2>of Indigenous Affairs Minister Linda Bernie and the Skills Minister

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<v Speaker 2>Brendan O'Connor.

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<v Speaker 8>Have a look, We'll always be grateful for the extraordinary

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<v Speaker 8>example which these two fine Australiants give of.

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<v Speaker 1>Why people should enter public life.

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<v Speaker 2>And he'll announce the cabinet reshuffle on Sunday. Andrew Giles

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<v Speaker 2>widely expected to go. Matt Canavan. You know Linda Burnie's

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<v Speaker 2>great contribution to public life was putting Indigenous affairs on

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<v Speaker 2>the table. She would say it's the voice. Clearly that

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<v Speaker 2>did divide Australia. In the end in Australian's voted no.

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<v Speaker 2>So how do you think she'll be remembered.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, it's a bit hard to say.

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<v Speaker 7>I think, as you say, her really only major initiative

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<v Speaker 7>as the Indigenous Affairs minister was was the Voice, and.

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<v Speaker 1>It utterly failed. I'm not so sure it divided us

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<v Speaker 1>too much.

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<v Speaker 7>It united us quite a lot against it, but not

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<v Speaker 7>in the way that Minister Ernie would have hoped. So look,

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<v Speaker 7>obviously that will go down in our nation's history. It's

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<v Speaker 7>one of less than fifty referendus we've had. But her

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<v Speaker 7>legacy probably will be one that she wasn't successful. But look,

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<v Speaker 7>she's done her best and I wish her well. The

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<v Speaker 7>test for Anthony Alberonezi there was not to accept the

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<v Speaker 7>voluntary resignations he has today. It's to force the resignation

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<v Speaker 7>of underperforming ministers and show some accountability to the Australian

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<v Speaker 7>people for such underperformance, as you.

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<v Speaker 1>Mentioned, Edred Giles.

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<v Speaker 7>But Clara O'Neil as well has been a partner in

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<v Speaker 7>crime here in the release of more criminals onto our

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<v Speaker 7>nation shores since the days of the First Fleet.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the real test here.

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<v Speaker 7>Is there going to be accountability in the Prime Minister's

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<v Speaker 7>cabinet and ministry for such gross failures of governance?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Joe, who do you expect to be promoted and

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<v Speaker 2>demoted in this reshuffle? And do you think there's any

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<v Speaker 2>chance because I don't that Andrew Giles will be sacked.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you'll just be moved to another job.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, look, we know that there'll be at least two

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<v Speaker 6>people getting promoted. There are two resignations. They're both left

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<v Speaker 6>wing positions, so they'll be left wing promotions. It's widely

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<v Speaker 6>accepted that Senator Mellandarry McCarthy is very likely going to

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<v Speaker 6>be promoted to take on that Indigenous Affairs portfolio. But

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<v Speaker 6>some of the other left wing promotions. People are talking

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<v Speaker 6>about assistant ministers like Jed Carney getting promoted. But then

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<v Speaker 6>there are also a range of left wing backbenches like

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<v Speaker 6>Julian Hill, Josh Wilson. The people are talking about promotions

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<v Speaker 6>for them too. I think the key thing for Anthony Albanize.

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<v Speaker 6>Is he going to do a very limited reshuffle where

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<v Speaker 6>he does as little change as possible, or is he

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<v Speaker 6>going to take this as an opportunity to do a

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<v Speaker 6>broader reset. And I think there is a compelling case

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<v Speaker 6>to do were broader reset. I think Immigration and Home

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<v Speaker 6>Affairs should be swapped up. I think new people should

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<v Speaker 6>go into those portfolios. I think there's a case too

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<v Speaker 6>for someone to replace Julie Collins in housing. Do I

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<v Speaker 6>think Anthony Albanezi is actually going to take those big

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<v Speaker 6>steps and dump Andrew Giles to the backbench. I think

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<v Speaker 6>it's very unlikely.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course the other thing that he'll be considering

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<v Speaker 2>is the faction. So you know, even though there might

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<v Speaker 2>be someone very talented like Andrew Charlton who comes on

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<v Speaker 2>this show regularly. I mean he ran the economic strategy

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<v Speaker 2>for Kevin rud during the global financial crisis, there is

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<v Speaker 2>no one potentially more experienced who should be entering the ministry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet he won't because he is a white male from

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<v Speaker 2>the right faction. So all of these considerations when you're

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<v Speaker 2>in the Labor Party at least will be balanced up.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Matt canavanro Kelly, thank you both very much

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<v Speaker 2>for your time. Now, after the break, we'll go live

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<v Speaker 2>to the US after the capital was stormed by Hamas supporters,

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<v Speaker 2>plus a shocking new detail from the FBI about Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>would be assassin. All of that coming up, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 9>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Four days after dropping out of the presidential race, Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Biden finally fronted the nation and Well, his intention was

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<v Speaker 2>to explain his decision, but it didn't quite end up

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<v Speaker 2>like that. He mumbled and bumbled his way through a

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<v Speaker 2>twelve minute speech.

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<v Speaker 3>I've come so far since my inauguration on that day,

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<v Speaker 3>I told you as I stood in the winter, we're

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<v Speaker 3>stood in a winter of peril and winter possibilities. When

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<v Speaker 3>Ben Franklin was asked as he emerged from the convention,

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<v Speaker 3>going on in this moment, we can see those we

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<v Speaker 3>disagree with not as enemies, but as fellow Americans.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, for more on this, let's bring in the

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<v Speaker 2>former acting United States Attorney General, Matthew Whittaker. Matthew, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you very much for your time. Look, isn't it ironic

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<v Speaker 2>that the Democratic National Committee has finalized a plan to

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<v Speaker 2>nominate Kamala Harris before the convention, effectively to prevent any

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<v Speaker 2>other contenders or any debate, the first time the Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>have used such a process. And yet we heard Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Biden speak about democracy over and over and over again.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the main word he used in his speech, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>good to be.

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<v Speaker 10>With you in greetings from the United States. You know,

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<v Speaker 10>we are in a kind of silly moment in American history.

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<v Speaker 10>It is both you know, not real or not serious.

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<v Speaker 10>What's happening with the Democrat Party where they allegedly, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>are fighting for democracy, but are now going to run

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<v Speaker 10>the most democratic nomination process ever history of major parties.

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<v Speaker 10>And at the same time, we're never more insecure from

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<v Speaker 10>the threats that the United States faces. And you know,

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<v Speaker 10>you couple all that together and I think there's a

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<v Speaker 10>lot of sincere concern of whether or not Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 10>is really in charge and whether he is up to

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<v Speaker 10>doing the job. And it's sad to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>to watch that speech that he gave last night is

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<v Speaker 10>just surreal. He's having a very hard time articulating himself.

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<v Speaker 10>And yet, you know, for the last many months and

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<v Speaker 10>quite frankly many years, the left in the United States

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<v Speaker 10>has been telling us that, you know, he runs circles

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<v Speaker 10>around everybody, and he's sharp as attack.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, But in the end that only worked against the

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<v Speaker 2>interests because they could have elected the best possible candidate

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<v Speaker 2>if they'd gone through the proper process months ago. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>they're at this late stage and they only have Kamala Harris,

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<v Speaker 2>who may be the best candidate, but hasn't been put

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<v Speaker 2>through the ringer and been able to go through those

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<v Speaker 2>interrogations and the debates against others. I agree with you. You

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<v Speaker 2>got the sense that he was struggling to read that

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<v Speaker 2>speech clearly. But what about the Republicans who are saying

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<v Speaker 2>he should now step down as president? But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>should they really be calling for that, because that would

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<v Speaker 2>truly give Kamala the best chance of beating Donald trumpet

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<v Speaker 2>if she were the president.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 10>Think on the one hand, it would elevate her and

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<v Speaker 10>make her have more of a spotlight. But at the

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<v Speaker 10>same time, I think those of us that have watched

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<v Speaker 10>her over the last really five or six years know

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<v Speaker 10>that she has some limitations, whether that's her policies better ultraliberal,

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<v Speaker 10>or whether that's her personality. You know, it's it's hard

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<v Speaker 10>to find anybody that actually is a fan or that

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<v Speaker 10>likes the Vice president. You know, it is very clear

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<v Speaker 10>to me that as the American people get to know her,

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<v Speaker 10>they're going to have more questions than answers. And you know,

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<v Speaker 10>they've done a terrible time of launching her right now.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, she's being outspent really almost sixty to one

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<v Speaker 10>on advertising in swing states.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know she's doing well.

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<v Speaker 2>At fundraising though. She just raised one hundred million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>since someday. I mean that's extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, but this is going to be a billion dollars

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<v Speaker 10>plus on both sides. You know, last time Republicans in

0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:30.280
<v Speaker 10>twenty twenty were I'd spent eight billion to two billion

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<v Speaker 10>if you've had it all up. So there's a lot

0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:34.600
<v Speaker 10>of money slashing around politics in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're right.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, she'll be a powerful fundraiser, but that may

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<v Speaker 10>not be able to make up for her personal limitations.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, let's look at the revelations from FBI

0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Director Christopher Ray today, and it was revealed that Thomas

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Matthew Crooks, that of course, was the gunman who tried

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<v Speaker 2>to kill Trump. Will he researched the jfk assassination a

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<v Speaker 2>week before he tried to kill Trump. We now know

0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:01.200
<v Speaker 2>that he typed into Google. Half our away was Oswald

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<v Speaker 2>from Kennedy. He was also flying a drone for eleven

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<v Speaker 2>whole minutes, eleven minutes of a drone flying in the

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:12.000
<v Speaker 2>air around where Trump was about to speak, right before

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<v Speaker 2>the attempted assassination. What did you think of these revelations

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<v Speaker 2>and Christopher Raise evidence today.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, it was good to hear from Chris what they

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<v Speaker 10>have learned so far. I think it was much better

0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:30.399
<v Speaker 10>than these former Secret Service director who gave us no

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:34.680
<v Speaker 10>answers and really raised more questions. But at the same time,

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 10>there are still too many questions. This was a massive failure.

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 10>You know, we almost lost President Trump, whether by luck

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<v Speaker 10>or some of us, like myself, believed revine providence. You know,

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 10>he is alive, but there were too many single points

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<v Speaker 10>of failure that.

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<v Speaker 1>Have been revealed.

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<v Speaker 10>And I also am concerned that a lot of what

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<v Speaker 10>we learned is from leaks previously to director Raised testimony.

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<v Speaker 1>And I worked with Chris.

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<v Speaker 10>Ray both in the Bush administration and in the Trump administration,

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<v Speaker 10>and I know him to be a street shooter. I

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<v Speaker 10>think I wish he would be a little stronger leader

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 10>at the FBI. But that being said, I think he did,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, lay out what they know and where they're

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<v Speaker 10>going with this investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>His performance was definitely far more impressive than the head

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<v Speaker 2>of the Secret Service, who obviously had to step down

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<v Speaker 2>after hurt shocking performance. But no question, there needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be a proper inquiry so we can find out how

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<v Speaker 2>this happened. Now, just before you go, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>ask you your view. The Secret Service has said or

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<v Speaker 2>they've advised Trump's campaign to stop doing outdoor rallies. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is famous for his outdoor rallies. He loves them,

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<v Speaker 2>his fans love them. It's kind of his trademark. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you think about this? I mean, they're admitting effectively

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<v Speaker 2>that they can't properly guarantee his security.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, you know, I've been to probably more rallies than

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<v Speaker 10>I can count, having helped him win the Iowa Caucuses

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<v Speaker 10>and having you know, been to so many of the

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:11.439
<v Speaker 10>outdoor rallies and the indoor rallies. And you're right, I mean,

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 10>the president enjoys the outdoor rallies, but they obviously, you know,

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 10>we learned our harder secure. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 10>I think you add it all up and until the

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<v Speaker 10>Secret Service gets their act together, and until they learn

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 10>these lessons that we should have learned when JFK was assassinated.

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<v Speaker 10>I think you know that it is probably correct to

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<v Speaker 10>do a few indoor rallies. The problem is that the

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 10>rallies serve a couple purposes. One is to obviously get

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:42.439
<v Speaker 10>the Trump supporters in the base together. But at the

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 10>same time, I think the other thing that it does

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:48.119
<v Speaker 10>is it shows force, and it shows a strength of

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<v Speaker 10>the campaign and the grassroots that Donald Trump only can bring.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Matt wat Katt really appreciate your time this

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<v Speaker 2>evening or early morning for you. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>And Matt of course former acting Attorney General in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States. Now, if the recent political shakeups in the

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<v Speaker 2>White House weren't enough, today, as I said earlier in

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<v Speaker 2>the show, we saw unprecedented levels of chaos in Washington.

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 2>The American flag burned, her Musk supporters saying that her

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:22.200
<v Speaker 2>muss was coming to the US. This was just outrageous.

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<v Speaker 2>And all of this was because Israeli Prime Minister Benjainette

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<v Speaker 2>and Yaho delivered a powerful argument for Western support of

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<v Speaker 2>Israel in Congress. Here's another part of what he had

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:34.400
<v Speaker 2>to say.

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 4>It's a clash between barbarism and civilization. It's a clash

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 4>between those who glorified death and those who sanctify life.

0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 4>For the forces of civilization to triumph, America and Israel

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 4>must stand together.

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 2>By the way, Elon Musk was sitting in the crowd

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 2>in Congress watching that speech. He was a guest of Netanyahu's,

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 2>so even more reason to like Elon Musk. Let's bring

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<v Speaker 2>in now IRNC spokesperson Elizabeth Pipco, Elizabeth, welcome to the show. Look,

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 2>during Netanyahu's address, we saw dozens of Democrats. Have seen

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 2>reports that it was fifty. Other reports say eighty, but

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 2>either way, a large number of Democrats actually walked out.

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is meant to be a democracy. You

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 2>don't have to like Nettunya who you can hate him,

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 2>but surely they should at least show the respect of

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 2>listening to what he has to say.

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<v Speaker 5>I completely agree. I said it yesterday. Actually, unless the

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:50.600
<v Speaker 5>reports have changed. According to Axios yesterday, nearly half of

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 5>elected Democrats that not show up for the speech, Like

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 5>you said, they should just hear him out and listen

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 5>to what he has to say. This is the democratically

0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 5>elected leader of one of our strongest and closest allies.

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 1>It's also the.

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 5>Leader of a country currently fighting for its survival unless

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 5>excuse me, against a terrorist group. A terrorist group that is,

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 5>like he mentioned last night, not just Israel's enemy but

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 5>also our enemy here in the United States. Let's not

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 5>forget there are also American hostages still locked up right now,

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 5>still being held by this group. And he is fighting,

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 5>just like we would hopefully be fighting, to release those hostages,

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 5>to bring them home. And to not show up to

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 5>his speech the shere disrespect from him and by the way,

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 5>respect from him, but also from the Vice president. Let's

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 5>not forget. This is a man who showed up knowing

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 5>that nearly half of Democrats weren't going to be there,

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 5>but not assuming that the vice president of the United

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 5>States would not even show up, the person who's now

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 5>the presumptive nominee running for president here. For the Democrat

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 5>Party to not show up when Israel is in this

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 5>war again, when Americans are still held hostage, I think

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 5>was disgraceful. And you mentioned what was going on outside

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 5>that might have been even worse than the lack of

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 5>support inside. These are far left protesters burning the American flag,

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 5>as a leader of another country stands and applauds those

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 5>that support and stand for our flag inside. So I

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 5>think the contrast could not be more evident. And I

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 5>truly am just saddened as a proud American for what

0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 5>I start happening yesterday.

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 2>And you know what, it's not just that it was

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 2>disrespectful to Neeta Yaoho. He's a politician, he can take it.

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 2>But Noah Agamani was there. She was She became one

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 2>of the most famous hostages around the world when she

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 2>was kidnapped on October seven. You know, the beautiful young

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 2>girl on the back of a motorcycle, kidnapped by her musk,

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 2>rescued only recently in a risky and daring mission by

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 2>Israel which cost one Israeli soldier their life. She was rescued.

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 2>She was there today watching Netanyahu's address. How would she

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 2>have felt to arrive in the Capitol and see all

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 2>these people saying her muss is coming and supporting her muscle.

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 2>The trauma, the heartlessness, it's just shocking. And now I

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 2>want to turn to your role as a spokesperson for

0:31:55.880 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 2>the Republican Party. How do you think Donald Trump, your party,

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:03.400
<v Speaker 2>the Republicans are going to have to shift their messaging

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 2>now to take on Kamala Harrison. Are you more worried

0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 2>about her winning than you were Joe Biden.

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 1>So it's a fair question.

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 5>It's what a lot of people are discussing right now,

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 5>and I think for us, the strategy remains the same. Look,

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 5>we can't deny the fact that Kamala Harris was on

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 5>this ticket right with Joe Biden. She was in this

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 5>administration with Joe Biden the entire time. She owns the

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 5>failures of this administration. She owns everything that the American

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:32.480
<v Speaker 5>people are feeling right now, and she owns the fact

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 5>that we still don't know how Joe Biden is doing.

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 5>We still don't know how long he has been in

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 5>this decline. We still don't know what happened at that

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 5>last debate, We don't know what people around him knew,

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 5>including Kamala Harris, And she has to own all of

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 5>that because the American people deserve some kind of answers.

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 5>So I think for us, it's about just being transparent here,

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 5>being honest. Everybody knows everything they need to know about

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 5>Donald Trump and where he stands on every single issue.

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 5>They've known for a while that he was going to

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 5>be the nominee as well. And for us, it's about

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 5>going against not the individual that is Kamala Harris, but

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 5>the policies of this administration, the policies of the left,

0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 5>and the policies that the majority of Americans agree right

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 5>now are just not working for them.

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 2>But what is this answer? You more worried about taking

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 2>her on than Joe Biden.

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:19.560
<v Speaker 5>We're certainly not more worried, but it's it's you know,

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 5>it's an interesting time in American politics right We don't

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:24.680
<v Speaker 5>even know yet if she is one hundred percent going

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:26.959
<v Speaker 5>to be the candidate. We certainly don't know who her

0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:29.440
<v Speaker 5>vice president is going to be. And I think three

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 5>months out from an election to kind of know that

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 5>this is what's happening, it's weird for us to know

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 5>that that's where the American people are right now, not

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 5>knowing what their choice is. It's weird for us not

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:41.239
<v Speaker 5>knowing who our competitors are. But against we are a

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 5>party right now going against another party which we don't

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:46.960
<v Speaker 5>believe has the best interest of the American people in mind.

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 5>That's all that we need to know and what was

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 5>on display yesterday you and I just talked about is

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 5>all the American people need to know. She was not

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 5>there as American flags were being burned, and a speech

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 5>of our ally, who's fighting a war technically with the

0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 5>American people right now to release our own hostages was

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 5>completely ignored by her. And that's all people need to

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:06.240
<v Speaker 5>know about this candidate and this ticket.

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah all right, Elizabeth Pipco, thank you very much for

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 2>your time. Now still to come as Democrats walk out.

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Annette Yahoo, a mother whose young daughter is still being

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:19.839
<v Speaker 2>held hostage, will join me next. Plus what went down

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 2>on Wall Street with the one trillion dollar wipeout? And

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 2>could we be facing a recession here in Australia. All

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:33.239
<v Speaker 2>that and more coming up welcome back. Well, even more

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 2>economists are concerned that we could potentially face a recession

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:38.400
<v Speaker 2>in Australia. We're going to come back to that in

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 2>a moment, But first let's look back at two hundred

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:44.959
<v Speaker 2>and ninety two days ago when twenty three year old

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Romy Gonen was taken hostage by her mus at the

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Nova Music Festival. She was shot and captured along with

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 2>three of her friends. Well, Romy's mother, Merav Leshem Gonen

0:34:56.840 --> 0:35:00.760
<v Speaker 2>joins me live now. Thank you so much your time.

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.839
<v Speaker 2>Really appreciate it. I can can't even possibly imagine how

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:06.320
<v Speaker 2>difficult it is for you to speak about this topic.

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 2>So we do appreciate your time. Look your daughter around

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 2>you while she was trying to escape being taken by

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 2>her mask on October seven. Can you tell us what

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 2>she said to you in that phone call?

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:23.799
<v Speaker 9>Well, she was on the phone with us for four

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:27.360
<v Speaker 9>and a half hours on the phone or on what'sapp.

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 9>But the last phone call started at ten fourteen, and

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 9>when she was you know, I was picking up the

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 9>phone and she said, Mom, hair was shot, I'm bleeding

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:41.520
<v Speaker 9>and I think I'm going to die, and that her

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:44.400
<v Speaker 9>friend is not speaking anymore. Her friend said in the

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 9>front and that the driver was killed. And that's how

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:52.239
<v Speaker 9>the phone call started. Forty five minutes of which I'm

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:54.799
<v Speaker 9>trying to help, trying to see who can come and

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 9>rescue my daughter, trying to talk to the army, to

0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 9>the police, trying to understand where she is, and hearing

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:06.759
<v Speaker 9>around her all the shooting and the fighting that were

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 9>going on around the car. And finally I heard them,

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:18.360
<v Speaker 9>the terrorists coming to the car, opening the door trying

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:24.720
<v Speaker 9>to start the car and speaking about my daughter, saying

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 9>she's alive, and then going to her side of the

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:33.239
<v Speaker 9>car and taking her out by her long beautiful hair

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:37.359
<v Speaker 9>and pulling her on the road, hurting her back, and

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 9>when she was trying to look and see what is

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:42.719
<v Speaker 9>going on, she was punched in the face and then

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 9>the phone was hang out.

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:49.319
<v Speaker 2>And merav that was the last time you spoke to

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 2>your daughter that phone call.

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 9>Yes, yes, you have to understand. Being held by Chamas

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:57.840
<v Speaker 9>is not a prison. This is not prison.

0:36:58.760 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 1>This is.

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 9>Pere hatred, pure evil terrorists that holding my daughter and

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:13.399
<v Speaker 9>other women and men underground in tunnels, no phone call,

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:17.759
<v Speaker 9>nobody visits them, no doctor, no nothing. My daughter is

0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:21.959
<v Speaker 9>there underground for two hundred and twenty and ninety three

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 9>days already, and I expect the world to shout to

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 9>say something. Twelve women are still alive there and some

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:33.720
<v Speaker 9>of the men are also alive.

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Who used to say still alive? And we absolutely pray

0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 2>with everything that your daughter is still alive. What have

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:46.759
<v Speaker 2>you got news of her? Have you what makes you

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 2>believe that she is still holding on?

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:53.920
<v Speaker 9>First time a mother, I know she's alive. This is nowhere,

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:59.880
<v Speaker 9>There is nowhere you mean, and I'm sure about mother's instinct, yes,

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 9>but this is not just the instinct. We know from

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:06.799
<v Speaker 9>the women that came back on the last deal that

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 9>they were with her in the tunnels. I know she

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 9>was alive. I know she is alive, and I know

0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 9>we have to bring her back as soon as possible.

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:21.319
<v Speaker 9>Just yesterday we got the message about two of the

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 9>men that were murdered in Commas, and and five bodies

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 9>were returned yesterday from people who were murdered also by

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:36.439
<v Speaker 9>the Commas. This is an impossible state. These are, you know, civilians.

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 9>My daughter is almost one four, she will be in

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:43.280
<v Speaker 9>August twenty four. This is something unimaginable.

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 2>It truly is very passion I don't know how you

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 2>bear it every single day for the past nine and

0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:52.279
<v Speaker 2>a half months. I can't We can't even begin to

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:56.320
<v Speaker 2>imagine what your nights are like, how you possibly sleep

0:38:56.360 --> 0:39:00.320
<v Speaker 2>and survive. You've said that one of your biggest concerns

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:04.480
<v Speaker 2>for Romi is any sexual assault that she might be

0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:08.279
<v Speaker 2>facing at the hands of these terrorists, and and tragically,

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:12.680
<v Speaker 2>we know that rape is something that harmas uses as

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:16.880
<v Speaker 2>a as a taller weapon of war. I understand you

0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:20.239
<v Speaker 2>spoke to United Nations officials recently. Is this something that

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:21.399
<v Speaker 2>you raised with them?

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:29.120
<v Speaker 9>I was in the last Committee of Human Rights, and

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 9>everything I heard them was everything except human rights, at

0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:39.439
<v Speaker 9>least a human rights of Jewish people, because they were

0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 9>talking about what is happening to the women in prison

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 9>as merly a parade, which was they were shouted at

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:52.760
<v Speaker 9>and that's all. But we know we heard Amtsusana. Amitsusana

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:56.880
<v Speaker 9>already said she has a very long testimony of what

0:39:57.000 --> 0:40:00.839
<v Speaker 9>happened to her in Gaza, and we need the world

0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 9>to understand Hamas is raping women. I don't know which

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:09.880
<v Speaker 9>of the hostages is being Each and every one of

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:13.880
<v Speaker 9>them is actually harassed in some way, even if it

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:16.960
<v Speaker 9>is only a man that is looking at you twenty

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 9>four hours a day, seven days a week, every minute.

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:23.759
<v Speaker 9>Even when you go to the bathroom, if there is

0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:26.320
<v Speaker 9>a bathroom, it's not exactly a bathroom in the tunnels.

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:28.279
<v Speaker 9>I don't know if you saw the pictures, of course,

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:31.879
<v Speaker 9>So the human rights of the UN, I guess they

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:36.600
<v Speaker 9>don't see Jewish women as something that deserves to have

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:43.240
<v Speaker 9>a privaty or you know, I don't have words to say.

0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:47.239
<v Speaker 9>I was so angry when I visited the committee and

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:51.239
<v Speaker 9>I had a speech of five minutes of which I exclaimed,

0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 9>the world Hamas is pure evil. It's very nice to

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:59.480
<v Speaker 9>stay very nice things in a cozy, warm or cold

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 9>place where you are protected. But I want to see

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:06.440
<v Speaker 9>each and every one of this committee guys coming to

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:08.160
<v Speaker 9>gus and trying to say the same.

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:11.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree with you. It's absolutely disgusting that all

0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:14.880
<v Speaker 2>the women's groups and all these so called feminists haven't

0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:18.719
<v Speaker 2>been fighting for the return of the hostages. Mirav. All

0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 2>of our hearts go out to you. We pray for

0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 2>the day that you are able to hold your little

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:25.440
<v Speaker 2>girl in your arms again.

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:29.799
<v Speaker 1>Look, we on build the same.

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:32.279
<v Speaker 2>It's so hard, and we just have to applaud you

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 2>on your courage for doing media interviews like this one.

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 2>We can't even imagine how hard it is for you

0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 2>to speak out, but you're doing it. And when your

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<v Speaker 2>daughter comes home, because we believe she will come home

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<v Speaker 2>when she is, I'm sure she'll be so proud of

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<v Speaker 2>your courage. So Merav, thank you very.

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<v Speaker 9>Much, Thank you, thank you very much to you too.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, after the break, more concerns or recession could be

0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 2>on the cards. While in the US, a one trillion

0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 2>dollar Wall Street wipe out, plus Fadam a payman's audacity

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<v Speaker 2>and demanding Albanezi give her even more resources after she'd

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<v Speaker 2>left the labor fault. My panel, welcome back. Well, let's

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<v Speaker 2>bring in tonight's panel now commentator Jason Morrison, who happens

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:17.120
<v Speaker 2>to be in the Fox News studio in New York,

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<v Speaker 2>and PR Council Managing Director Christy McSweeney. Good to see

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<v Speaker 2>you both, Jason, Christy, Let's have a look at the

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<v Speaker 2>economy because we're hearing this report from Deloit Access Economics

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<v Speaker 2>that warns another rate hike, and we are expecting there

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<v Speaker 2>to be at least one, potentially two, and Warren Hogan

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<v Speaker 2>last night said that even could be three rate hikes

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<v Speaker 2>this year. I doubt that'll happen, but we are expecting

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<v Speaker 2>rate hikes this year, and Deloitte economists are saying that

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<v Speaker 2>this actually could push us over into a recession. So Christy,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a very fine line that the alban Ezy government,

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<v Speaker 2>that the Treasurer of Jim Chalmers needs to walk here

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<v Speaker 2>to try and you know, take the pressure off inflation

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<v Speaker 2>and the RBA as well, of course without falling into recession.

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<v Speaker 11>The government has two options here, waite and hope and

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<v Speaker 11>pray that the RBI gives them some reprieve between the

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<v Speaker 11>end of this year and the full term of March

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<v Speaker 11>next year for the election, or hope, which I don't

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<v Speaker 11>think is possible, that their own policies around setting white

0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:33.400
<v Speaker 11>hikes for certain union cohorts and working with the AC

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<v Speaker 11>to you to deliver wage increases, is going to reset

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<v Speaker 11>the economy and increase productivity.

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<v Speaker 1>It won't.

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<v Speaker 11>Like all the economists that you mentioned suggesting that we

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<v Speaker 11>will have another right hike, there is not an economist

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<v Speaker 11>in Australia who's suggesting that any of the libor's industrial

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<v Speaker 11>relations agenda is going to increase productivity and do something

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<v Speaker 11>to off set the cost of living and the spiraling

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:09.040
<v Speaker 11>cost of goods and consumer household spending that we are

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<v Speaker 11>in in Australia. So I think we'll go full term

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<v Speaker 11>to the election with one or possibly two rate hikes

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<v Speaker 11>under our belt.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they will certainly be hoping that there's a cut

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<v Speaker 2>at least in the first quarter of next year. But Jason, meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>Wall Street had its worst day in almost two years.

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<v Speaker 2>Trillion dollars wiped off stocks. Tesla is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>stocks that had a sharp fall. What else can you

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<v Speaker 2>tell us? You're in New York, Jason, what else is

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<v Speaker 2>to blame for this Wall Street result?

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<v Speaker 8>I can tell you I'm as broke today as I

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<v Speaker 8>was yesterday. So for a personal level, like everyone, it

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<v Speaker 8>doesn't really matter where these graphs go. It just sort

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<v Speaker 8>of feels like it's the same story. All I can

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<v Speaker 8>tell you here is that everyone is saying, you know, shock, horror,

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<v Speaker 8>big dip. But the real story is you look at

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<v Speaker 8>the long term and for the last twelve months, it's

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<v Speaker 8>been up and up and up and up and up

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<v Speaker 8>and up, and it had a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 8>down yesterday. And to give you some context there's always

0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 8>worth getting context, is that yesterday's down took us back

0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 8>about a week and a half of the ups. So

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<v Speaker 8>for all the shock and horror of these statistics, the

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<v Speaker 8>truth is it's been good earnings for quite a bit

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<v Speaker 8>of time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's this parallel universe.

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<v Speaker 8>It's like the Australian share market. It's doing well, yet

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<v Speaker 8>all of us don't feel like we're doing well. And

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<v Speaker 8>I guess in a time when you know, they keep

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<v Speaker 8>telling us it's about constraint and restraint, and the same

0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:31.200
<v Speaker 8>messages over in the United States. At the moment, I

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<v Speaker 8>got to say, I have never seen things more expensive here,

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<v Speaker 8>and the same way I've never felt it as expensive

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 8>it is back home. We've got very similar kind of

0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:42.400
<v Speaker 8>problems at the moment with big taxing governments that just

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:45.560
<v Speaker 8>seem to find ways to push up our prices through

0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:48.720
<v Speaker 8>stupid decisions. And if it's not in Australia electricity bills,

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<v Speaker 8>I was stunned to see how much they pay for

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:54.279
<v Speaker 8>electricity in the US metrol excise and Australia is about

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 8>to go up soon. So it's all sort of flowing

0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:58.759
<v Speaker 8>into each other. But that's the real story of the

0:45:58.800 --> 0:46:01.319
<v Speaker 8>Wall Street drop. It's just a balance out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, let's quickly have a look at farmer labor

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<v Speaker 2>Senator Fatima payment. She's made a big request of Albaneze,

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<v Speaker 2>even though she walked out on him, crossed the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>She's now asking for extra staff, according to this story

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<v Speaker 2>in The Nightly, as she embarks on a twelve day

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<v Speaker 2>listening tour of regional w A town's Christy. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure this is a word she'd use, but this is

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<v Speaker 2>some hutzpat from Fatima payment.

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<v Speaker 11>Absolutely, I agree with you. I'm not sure if some

0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:31.319
<v Speaker 11>word she would use either, she would probably use it

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<v Speaker 11>as entitlement. First of all, I don't think fatim payment

0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:38.840
<v Speaker 11>has ever been to regional Western Australia. I'm a regional

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<v Speaker 11>Western Australian. There's nobody there that's ever heard of her.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm not entirely sure why she wants to go on

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<v Speaker 11>a tour of regional Western Australia. Second of all, I

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:52.920
<v Speaker 11>campaigned at that election, that same election of which Senator

0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:59.240
<v Speaker 11>Payment was elected at, not one single constituent or one

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:04.520
<v Speaker 11>single lie raised support for Palestine with me as an

0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:09.400
<v Speaker 11>issue that's highly relevant to the constituency overall of Western

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:14.279
<v Speaker 11>Australia and wymps on both sides of Parliament tell me

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<v Speaker 11>there's not a significant volume of correspondence coming into the office.

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<v Speaker 11>That's interesting because the way that you know, some labor

0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 11>politicians are very worried about it in marginal seats in

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<v Speaker 11>Sydney and Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 8>Jason, Yeah, this is the diversity pick gone wrong. And

0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:35.880
<v Speaker 8>you know one of the stories that goes with the

0:47:35.920 --> 0:47:39.960
<v Speaker 8>diversity movement is take take take guess what she's doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone shocked really mm, well, well you can ask for

0:47:45.560 --> 0:47:48.719
<v Speaker 2>more resources, but albin Eezy can easily say no. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think the point I was trying to get at

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<v Speaker 2>is that are these independent Muslim candidates who are considering

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they seem like the groupings in a bit

0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:59.080
<v Speaker 2>of disarray at the moment, but they are threatening to

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<v Speaker 2>run against Labor politicians, and there are Labor politicians in

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<v Speaker 2>marginal seats in Western Sydney and in Melbourne where this

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:09.799
<v Speaker 2>could be a real issue in this domestic politics. It

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<v Speaker 2>is part of the reason that many think, including me,

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<v Speaker 2>that Foreign Minister Pennywong, you know, did what she did today,

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<v Speaker 2>that why she is being so publicly critical of Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>But look the Labor Party national conference, there's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a lot of pro Palestinian protesters. They're already security concerns,

0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 2>so this is going to be a big issue to come.

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Morrison, Christy McSweeney, thank you both very much for

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<v Speaker 2>your time, and that's it for me this week. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>see you Monday at eight o'clock and up now for

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<v Speaker 2>Myriy life.