Speaker 1: From the sky in center. This is Paul Murray Live. Howda.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm American, but why not? Welcome
Speaker 1: to another week before Murray Live. A massive weekhead this time.
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Speaker 1: com dot au. Tonight, obviously we'll get to all of
Speaker 1: the obvious certain news that is around, including the Labour
Speaker 1: Party getting absolutely thumped in the Northern territory. Leofanukiano is
Speaker 1: a wonderful lady. I'm so pleased she gets her te
Speaker 1: chance to lead. She's going to be a very impressive
Speaker 1: leader of that part of the world. Jackie Lamby good
Speaker 1: at getting publicity, not great at getting people to remain
Speaker 1: part of her network, which of course is different than
Speaker 1: a party. Right, Well, perhaps she should become a party,
Speaker 1: because then she'd be able to hold on to people
Speaker 1: other than herself get elected under her name. Big news
Speaker 1: out of Tassy tonight, and I'll tell you the detailed
Speaker 1: reasons why RFK joining forces with Donald Trump is the
Speaker 1: game changer of the American election thus far, well after Biden.
Speaker 1: But you get my point now. Just like many Australians,
Speaker 1: I well bought the ticket late last week, fingers crossed,
Speaker 1: hoping that our life was going to change with so
Speaker 1: much money coming by the way of Powerball World. Surprise, surprise.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here, which means I didn't win. You're sitting there,
Speaker 1: which means you didn't win either. One hundred million bucks.
Speaker 1: Apparently it was one person who ended up winning. They
Speaker 1: are from Queensland. Apparently the ticket had been sold to
Speaker 1: somebody from the Lots outlet in the North Side, but
Speaker 1: they were unregistered, which means they can't contact you. You
Speaker 1: have to contact them.
Speaker 2: With unregistered that's where if the ticket does is lost
Speaker 2: or becomes damage. There is a process we can use
Speaker 2: to try and that people can use to sort of
Speaker 2: night with the prize, but it's much more complicatedble And while.
Speaker 1: One person gets one hundred million dollars, a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of people got their share of sixty seven million dollars.
Speaker 1: In fact, that was the carve up of people from
Speaker 1: the other divisions. From Division two to nine there were
Speaker 1: three point three median people winning their version of a
Speaker 1: slice of sixty seven thousand dollars. Now, I would imagine
Speaker 1: these are the people who will suddenly renovate their bathroom,
Speaker 1: suddenly buy a new car. Do not think they have
Speaker 1: won one hundred million, just maybe something somewhere between here
Speaker 1: and there. But anyway, if you're a winner, congrats, good luck,
Speaker 1: and of course to the people who run well, you
Speaker 1: are the biggest winners, aren't you, because what is it
Speaker 1: a one in four trillion chance of actually getting the win.
Speaker 1: But if you got it, well done, glad you're still
Speaker 1: watching us, and I look forward to you doing it
Speaker 1: on an even bigger Telly, let's talk about what happened
Speaker 1: in Darwin last night, huge, huge news, which of course
Speaker 1: was that the Corp absolutely wiped the floor with the
Speaker 1: Labor Party last night. Now, what's fascinating about Northern territory
Speaker 1: elections is the population is pretty small. It's like a
Speaker 1: quarter of a million people, like the entire territory wide.
Speaker 1: It means the electorates are only like very small, single
Speaker 1: thousand people. So when they change their mind, they change
Speaker 1: it hard, and they changed it hard, getting rid of
Speaker 1: a Labor Party that had gone death to the true
Speaker 1: concerns of the territory. And you know how much I
Speaker 1: love it, not just celebrating it every single first of
Speaker 1: the new financial year, first of July crack a night,
Speaker 1: the one place left in the country to do it.
Speaker 1: But it's a place of great freedoms. It feels like
Speaker 1: what people overseas think Australia is well, the only place
Speaker 1: to actually go and do it is in the territory.
Speaker 1: But as you say, they smashed and smashed hard, but
Speaker 1: not a lot of people thought that it was going
Speaker 1: to be the case. And when I say not a
Speaker 1: lot of people, I mean we have an example of
Speaker 1: somebody who was on the telly in the day before saying, well,
Speaker 1: but probably should be able to get over the line.
Speaker 1: Of course, reality was that the Country Liberal Party, it's
Speaker 1: called the Country Liberal Party. But of course it is
Speaker 1: the same Team Blue, even though it's Team Orange. But
Speaker 1: you get my point, Smashes. You lead to thirteen to
Speaker 1: form majority. At this stage they've got sixteen. That's up
Speaker 1: nine seats since the election a few years ago. Labor
Speaker 1: Party down ten seats. Down to four. The others I
Speaker 1: believe is actually two not three. My apologies, so that'll
Speaker 1: be down by maybe two and still counting. Now, the
Speaker 1: most worrying part of this election, apart from the Labour
Speaker 1: Party voters, that the Greens they're going to find their
Speaker 1: way into the territory parliament, most likely via one of
Speaker 1: the surprise, surprise, richest parts of in and around Darwin,
Speaker 1: in and around Fanny Bay. Beautiful part of the world,
Speaker 1: but it's about to go green. Wow. Now this is
Speaker 1: also interesting, not just because of its complications when it
Speaker 1: comes back to the federal election. I'll get to those
Speaker 1: in a second. But remember one of the things that
Speaker 1: the Labor Party is trying to do in exchange for
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of other election changes between now and
Speaker 1: the next federal election, most likely because of the Reserve Bank,
Speaker 1: to beat next year, not this year. They want to
Speaker 1: double the number of senators currently there's only two that
Speaker 1: come from the Northern Territory and the Act each and
Speaker 1: every election. Now this matters because in the Act, essentially
Speaker 1: the Libs would have a shot of one in four,
Speaker 1: the Teals could end up winning two, Labor could win two,
Speaker 1: or the Greens could win two. Whoever doesn't win the
Speaker 1: two or they get the one, and you get my point.
Speaker 1: That of course makes it harder for any potential Conservative
Speaker 1: government with that one a majority downstairs, to have a
Speaker 1: majority upstairs. And if the Greens are now starting to
Speaker 1: show some green shoots of their political support, even in
Speaker 1: a wipeout election like this, then what will happen potentially
Speaker 1: with the fourth of the Senate seats to come from
Speaker 1: the Northern Territory. Again, more Greens, more teals, more labor.
Speaker 1: All of it makes it way harder for whatever coalition
Speaker 1: government comes to power, whenever they come to power. Now,
Speaker 1: also worth noting here too is Lea Fanookiana. Now she
Speaker 1: is the Northern Territory Chief Minister. She had her meetings today.
Speaker 1: But supposedly she is the exact example of somebody who
Speaker 1: the Liberal Party apparently has a problem with. A middle
Speaker 1: aged woman who's a three term menpiece, a mother of two,
Speaker 1: she has Italian born parents, she's born and bred in
Speaker 1: the Northern Territory. But we keep being told that people
Speaker 1: of this age, of this professionalism, of this heritage, well
Speaker 1: that's the problem with the Liberal Party. Well guess what,
Speaker 1: Lea Fanookiano and you Center Price represent the next generation
Speaker 1: for the Liberal Party. Now the blokes that have been
Speaker 1: in charge in the past, get out of the way.
Speaker 1: You are not the puppet masters. They are the leaders.
Speaker 1: They are the people who will lead to greater political success,
Speaker 1: not just in the territory. And they don't need to
Speaker 1: follow your advice. You need to sit back and let
Speaker 1: them do what they do. Just Center Price has the
Speaker 1: potential of being a prime minister. Lea Fanookiana has the
Speaker 1: potential of turning around the Northern territory. If the Old
Speaker 1: Boys Network wants to fiddle around and pretend they'are the
Speaker 1: real power behind the throne, well all of it ends well,
Speaker 1: pretty badly, pretty quickly. Get out of the way. These
Speaker 1: people are the ones that are in charge, and they
Speaker 1: are in tune not just with the territory, but with
Speaker 1: millions of people around the country. Leofanukiano, as I say,
Speaker 1: a middle aged woman who is the mother of two,
Speaker 1: a professional woman, a person who has parents born from
Speaker 1: somewhere else is the exact type of person who can
Speaker 1: help Peter Dutton in a federal election, not just in
Speaker 1: the seat of Solomon, which is the one in and
Speaker 1: around Darwin, but her success as an example of what
Speaker 1: the party now is will help in part of the
Speaker 1: anti teal fight that will come up in the next
Speaker 1: little while. But front and center, the reason the government
Speaker 1: had to change was because of crime in and around
Speaker 1: the Northern Territory. It has been a disgrace what has
Speaker 1: been allowed to happen now. In many ways, this has
Speaker 1: been allowed to happen because the left wing of the
Speaker 1: Labor Party took over the Northern Territory after the right
Speaker 1: wing of the Labor Party decided to pull up stumps.
Speaker 1: Now today the brand new Chief Minister Weill, she met
Speaker 1: with the Police Commissioner and that's good to see. But
Speaker 1: it's time to start seeing hardcore legislation go through the Parliament.
Speaker 1: The type of stuff that is going to piss off
Speaker 1: the ABC and send the Guardian wild, But it's the
Speaker 1: stuff that is going to calm down the beautiful Northern Territory.
Speaker 1: I love Alice Springs. I want people to stay over
Speaker 1: in Alice Springs. I want people to use Alice Springs
Speaker 1: as the base for their territory hopping as they move around,
Speaker 1: not just a place where you may stay for one
Speaker 1: night before quickly getting out of dodge now it is
Speaker 1: a place that has great potential. Its locals have made
Speaker 1: very clear decisions that they want to be represented by
Speaker 1: people that are going to get on top of this.
Speaker 1: I repeat that is going to create trouble and there
Speaker 1: is going to be particularly the left wing media that
Speaker 1: is going to try to say that the cracking down
Speaker 1: is all too hard, which in part gets us to
Speaker 1: the issue in and around this election. Remember in two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven when the border policyes of this country
Speaker 1: were so harsh, so evil that people thought you could
Speaker 1: loosen them and nothing would happen. Of course, fifty thousand
Speaker 1: votes after Rudd did that came to the country and
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred people ended up dying. Well in the territory. Yes,
Speaker 1: what was going on in don Dale was too much.
Speaker 1: But then when Natasha Files and other left wing parts
Speaker 1: of the government turned around and said, let's get rid
Speaker 1: of the grog bands, let's loosen things up, let's raise
Speaker 1: the age of criminal responsibility, well, of course none of
Speaker 1: it gets rid of the crime. It just gets rid
Speaker 1: of the people to be held account for the crime.
Speaker 1: This is fascinating. By the way, the now former Chief Minister,
Speaker 1: who in my view thankfully lost her seat. Well she
Speaker 1: seemed to be, and I'm talking politically, just a bit
Speaker 1: of a piece of work. She was nasty in that
Speaker 1: People's Forum, and that will may be because she thinks
Speaker 1: that the new broom is not worthy. Her speech went
Speaker 1: on forever, talking about friends and family as in the
Speaker 1: Labor Party, and the staffers were all the friends and
Speaker 1: for Please, as soon as you start to think this
Speaker 1: job is yours forever, guess what they'll take it away
Speaker 1: from you. Natasha files Again, the former Chief Minister was
Speaker 1: right there, front and center when the Prime Minister was
Speaker 1: making appalling decisions in and around this area. Well, thankfully
Speaker 1: now Labor has been sent packing. The COLP has a
Speaker 1: tough job in front of it. But the expectation of
Speaker 1: anyone who lives or loves the territory is get on
Speaker 1: with it. Get on with it, yes, go as hard
Speaker 1: as you possibly can. If you need to pull back
Speaker 1: at some other point in time, fine and fair enough.
Speaker 1: We're not living in the nineteen twenties. We're living in
Speaker 1: the twenty twenties. So yes, there is a line. But
Speaker 1: it's time to go hard. If options need to be
Speaker 1: taken away from the judiciary because they are too soft
Speaker 1: and we need to start moving to mandatory sentencing. Good
Speaker 1: because if it creates a sense of fear that if
Speaker 1: you commit crime, you will be caught for it and
Speaker 1: you will be punished for it, then guess what happens
Speaker 1: to crime? It slowly disappears. There will be a tough
Speaker 1: road between now and then. Let's all make sure that
Speaker 1: we have their back, chief ministers back and as I say,
Speaker 1: the old boys get out of the way. You're not
Speaker 1: in charge. She's in charge, and the territory is much
Speaker 1: the better for it. The meantime, one of the frustrations
Speaker 1: that we had at the very start of not this
Speaker 1: but last year, was when the Prime Minister went to
Speaker 1: Alice Springs. Now remember he was dragged, kicking and screaming.
Speaker 1: He didn't want to be there now, he didn't want
Speaker 1: to be there, so the press conferences were all hole
Speaker 1: behind closed doors and everyone was looking the other way.
Speaker 1: He was there literally for a couple of hours, and
Speaker 1: he literally spent more time flying to the territory that
Speaker 1: he spent in the territory because his real priority for
Speaker 1: the way to start twenty twenty three was to bugger
Speaker 1: off the tennis, not for one night, but for of
Speaker 1: course three nights copping his cheers back then and booze
Speaker 1: this year. And the reason it has changed is because
Speaker 1: Australians have had enough of his leadership. Remember, as we
Speaker 1: have shown you multiple times reserved political monitor. This is
Speaker 1: the one that comes from the left wing websites of
Speaker 1: the Channel nine year his papers. It shows that fifty
Speaker 1: one percent of people believe the Prime minister's performance to
Speaker 1: be poor or very poor. That's the reality today and
Speaker 1: the prime minister's run between now and December it's not
Speaker 1: going to get any better. Why because guess who's coming
Speaker 1: back air buss Albo now fresh from all of the
Speaker 1: problems when he was flying around the world too much
Speaker 1: of the start of his prime ministership and then he
Speaker 1: tried to pull his head in towards the back part
Speaker 1: of last year and for most of this year. He
Speaker 1: is about to jump back on the plane. The next
Speaker 1: place he's going to be off to is he's going
Speaker 1: to be going to Tonga for a Pacific Islands Forum.
Speaker 1: No one will begrudge a prime minister doing that. Austraighted
Speaker 1: plays a significant role in leadership in and around these areas.
Speaker 1: But I do love the people that were even writing
Speaker 1: about this itinerary who were saying, Oh, anyone who complains
Speaker 1: about there's a sort of small mind who doesn't understand. No,
Speaker 1: the reason we have complained about it is because he
Speaker 1: nicknames the plane after his dog. He is so familiar
Speaker 1: and happy to be somewhere else other than Australia because again,
Speaker 1: by his own rules, he doesn't have to answer questions
Speaker 1: about Australia. Well. During twenty twenty three, when he thought
Speaker 1: that politics would be distracted by the voice, cost of
Speaker 1: living and its reality became a massive issue towards the
Speaker 1: end of the year, so much so that almost seventy
Speaker 1: something almost eighty percent of people said the government wasn't
Speaker 1: doing enough. That's why he's spent a summer trying to
Speaker 1: reset a budget, trying to buy votes with billions of dollars.
Speaker 1: But as we now said towards the back half of
Speaker 1: August of twenty twenty four, things are just as bad,
Speaker 1: if not worse, for many people around the country. Yet,
Speaker 1: right now is when the Prime Minister is going to
Speaker 1: fly around the world. Here's some of the places he's
Speaker 1: going to be going. I read directly from the account
Speaker 1: that was in the Cydney Morning Herald. He's going to
Speaker 1: go to the inauguration and the Indonesian Prime Minister. He's
Speaker 1: going to go to the Choggham meeting in Samoa. He's
Speaker 1: going to go to the East Asia Summit in Laos.
Speaker 1: He's going to go to the APEAK meeting. Remember the
Speaker 1: last time I was in San Francisco where they magically
Speaker 1: got rid of all of the homeless people the Chinese.
Speaker 1: Of course, we're attacking members of our defense force, but
Speaker 1: our Prime minister was sucking up to the Chinese President
Speaker 1: hoping that nobody would notice what we did. That's in Peru.
Speaker 1: Then there's the G twenty summit in Brazil, and then
Speaker 1: there's a Quad leaders meeting in India. I'd say maybe
Speaker 1: maybe the only one that he really needs to go
Speaker 1: to is the Quad. The rest of it, well, of course,
Speaker 1: is him pretending to be the big boy on the
Speaker 1: international stage. And gee, didn't that work out for Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: It will not work out for Anthony Albernezi again, because
Speaker 1: Airbus Albo is a symbol. It's a symbol of priorities,
Speaker 1: and if the priority is to bugger off and a
Speaker 1: bugger off as many times as this plan between now
Speaker 1: and the end of the year, while cost of living
Speaker 1: squeeze is tighter than ever before. Well, it doesn't just
Speaker 1: underline the perceptions, it makes the perceptions true about what
Speaker 1: the priorities are. Now. Remember in twenty twenty three, when
Speaker 1: it was all about the Voice and Airbus Albo, they
Speaker 1: took fifteen hundred dollars away from ten million workers in
Speaker 1: the instant in the sorry the load of middle income
Speaker 1: tax off set. Twelve months later they gave you too little,
Speaker 1: too late in the form of tax cuts, particularly for
Speaker 1: people earning around forty five thousand dollars about fifteen dollars
Speaker 1: a week. The expectation between now and December is that
Speaker 1: nothing will happen with the Reserve Bank. If anything happens,
Speaker 1: it's more likely to go up than it is to
Speaker 1: go down. Other international markets may start going down, but
Speaker 1: remember our inflation is higher than in places like the
Speaker 1: United States or the United Kingdom, both of which claim
Speaker 1: that inflation is one of the if not biggest issues
Speaker 1: in an election that saw a government change in the
Speaker 1: United Kingdom, or is the reason why it may well change,
Speaker 1: or even the deputy of the government currently running for
Speaker 1: the presidency the Vice President is trying to pretend she's
Speaker 1: not involved in that government. Why because anyone associated with
Speaker 1: inflation or the economy, well, they would sink like a stone.
Speaker 1: Hence the remaking of Kamala Harris from Joe Biden's loyal
Speaker 1: deputy to Obama in a pants suit. Meantime, even the
Speaker 1: people who love the Prime Minister would love to stick around,
Speaker 1: I should say, they say the time is running out
Speaker 1: in terms of the Parliament for them to actually be
Speaker 1: able to deliver on promises. Take your pick age care reform.
Speaker 1: Now supposedly a deal has been done. There will of
Speaker 1: course be no lifetime cap that was the latest in negotiations.
Speaker 1: We'll find out what gets leaked this week for anyone
Speaker 1: who's trying to pay by an age care package at home.
Speaker 1: With how strong the gambling advertising will be the political
Speaker 1: donation system, will they limit the amount of money that
Speaker 1: the teels can raise and spend going into the next election,
Speaker 1: or because they're headed towards minority, will it all be
Speaker 1: put off for another three years. Don't get me started
Speaker 1: on housing and renting. The religious discrimination bill they're not
Speaker 1: going to touch. They are of course going to do
Speaker 1: everything they can to tighten things in the environment, and
Speaker 1: of course more bureaucracy in and around climate change, the
Speaker 1: hate speech legislation again, that won't get off the ground.
Speaker 1: What about mining, what about the Reserve Bank? What about childcare?
Speaker 1: What about aviation? Watch this space. Time is running out
Speaker 1: metaphorically and literally. But the Prime Minister, well, he again
Speaker 1: wants to change the subject. If he's not buggering off overseas,
Speaker 1: he's having chats about his broken heart from way back
Speaker 1: when this is when, of course, he was talking about
Speaker 1: when his marriage had broken down, and all of that,
Speaker 1: of course, is a distraction from the real issue of
Speaker 1: the past two weeks. Again, I wish the man no
Speaker 1: personal ill will, but I couldn't care less about the
Speaker 1: personal backstory. Get on with the real deal, Get on
Speaker 1: along with protecting our national borders, which includes rigorous screenings
Speaker 1: for any and anyone who comes over that border. For
Speaker 1: two weeks, he couldn't tell us whether he agreed that
Speaker 1: support verbal support for mass was a reason to come
Speaker 1: or go from the country. Pretty obvious answer, regardless of
Speaker 1: what you think of what's happening on the other side
Speaker 1: of the world. And then, interestingly, as the Left, he's
Speaker 1: tried to turn around and say the past couple of
Speaker 1: weeks have been horrible, ugly, dirty racist. Dunton took twenty
Speaker 1: five steps back well David Pempethy, of course, adelaide radio host,
Speaker 1: he wrote in the papers over the weekend. So the
Speaker 1: other thing that people such as Stegel don't get is
Speaker 1: that concerns about crowding and cultural shifts from sudden surges
Speaker 1: in immigration are at their most acute in the blue
Speaker 1: collar suburbs when new migrants congregate. Exactly what we've been
Speaker 1: saying for a couple of years, Zalie Stegel will need
Speaker 1: a compass and a pack lunch to find these suburbs.
Speaker 1: If Anthony Abernezi allows himself to be wedded to this issue,
Speaker 1: he's going to be in massive strife. Losing a referendum
Speaker 1: is one thing, losing an election something else. The PM
Speaker 1: needs to change the subject and fast. His capacity to
Speaker 1: do so has not been seen to this point, even
Speaker 1: with billions of dollars in two too late tax cuts
Speaker 1: and twenty five dollars a month off a power bill
Speaker 1: that has already surged more than twenty five dollars. Now,
Speaker 1: let's have a chat about Jackie Lamby now, I'll be honest,
Speaker 1: I've always had slightly mixed feelings about her because she
Speaker 1: has an ability to present herself as the most normal
Speaker 1: person in the Parliament. Her backstory is unlike most people
Speaker 1: in the Parliament, so you always are willing to give
Speaker 1: her a chance. She certainly has stood up for veterans,
Speaker 1: and when she's screaming about the thing that you like,
Speaker 1: it's nice to hear somebody else screaming about the thing
Speaker 1: that you like. But she does it about everything.
Speaker 3: How about just for once today, just for once, put
Speaker 3: the future of our kids first. Okay, that's what we've
Speaker 3: got with et on us Mus this morning, so let's
Speaker 3: call him out for it.
Speaker 1: I'm sick of it.
Speaker 3: I hate bullies, billionaire bullies. I'll be looking forward to
Speaker 3: having the comentedos sitting in front of me in the rebels,
Speaker 3: because you won't get witnesses coming forward, you people, I've
Speaker 3: be here.
Speaker 1: Her political mix at times can be a bit strange,
Speaker 1: where she'll come out hard against the nuttier parts of
Speaker 1: the Union movement, like say to see it for me you,
Speaker 1: but then she'll basically vote with Labor most of the time.
Speaker 1: The way that she's able to get her media profile
Speaker 1: at the nowtional level is because she ticks two boxes
Speaker 1: at one time. For most news organizations now the reality
Speaker 1: is that most don't talk about Tasmanian politics, So she
Speaker 1: ticks the box of someone from Tasmania, ie not Sydney,
Speaker 1: not Melbourne. The other box, of course, is somebody who
Speaker 1: will give you the quote that could turn into a
Speaker 1: news story, because she's the most outraged about whatever the
Speaker 1: thing is that we're supposed to be outraged about. But
Speaker 1: of course her ultimate power in the Parliament is that
Speaker 1: she could deny the government of vote. She could say,
Speaker 1: rather than just screaming at a press conference for the
Speaker 1: consumption of everyone watching the press conference, if she wants
Speaker 1: to stop something happening, she can say, I won't vote
Speaker 1: for this or anything else you put in front of
Speaker 1: us unless dot dot dot. She's done things like that
Speaker 1: in the past, but that of course was only a
Speaker 1: conservative thing. She of course goes into shows like Q
Speaker 1: and A because again they think there's something conservative about
Speaker 1: her because she started life with Clive Palmer. She's been
Speaker 1: re elected in the conservative part of the northern part
Speaker 1: of Tasmania, and Jackie Lamby has been successful at being
Speaker 1: able to grow herself from just a senator in someone
Speaker 1: else's name to a person who was able to win
Speaker 1: back her seat in the Senate under her own party identity.
Speaker 1: But she doesn't call it a party. It's called a network.
Speaker 1: It's the Jackie Lambie network. That photo taken from her
Speaker 1: website to show the strength that she has in northern Tasmania,
Speaker 1: where again the population's not massive, so to get the
Speaker 1: requisite fifteen percent of the vote, it's a much smaller
Speaker 1: number of people than to get the same percentage of
Speaker 1: the vote to qualify to be a Senator in somewhere
Speaker 1: like Victoria, New South Wales or in Queensland. But that's geography,
Speaker 1: that's just the way that it works. There's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with that system. She showed that she had political coattails
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. You see, after she had been
Speaker 1: returned to Parliament in twenty nineteen, she chose a staffer,
Speaker 1: a lady by the name of Tammy Tyrrell, to be
Speaker 1: the Senate candidate who who was able to win her
Speaker 1: own place for six years in the Senate. But of
Speaker 1: course it was generally all the posters Jackie, all the
Speaker 1: messages Jackie, and of course these were two peas in
Speaker 1: the pod. How good two for the price of one.
Speaker 1: Now she even said at the time that I'm not
Speaker 1: Jackie because well, of course, while Tammy had been in
Speaker 1: and around the negotiations process as a staffer, it's different
Speaker 1: when you have a vote in the Senate. Well, of course,
Speaker 1: guess what happened, she walked. She is now an independent senator. Now.
Speaker 1: This happened towards the start of this year. Now, if
Speaker 1: this had been one nation, it had been a much
Speaker 1: bigger story because it was the Jackie Lamby network. Apparently
Speaker 1: there was nothing to see here. Apparently it was amicable.
Speaker 1: But still if you've gone from two votes to one vote,
Speaker 1: literally half of your party representation has completely disappeared. Now
Speaker 1: Jackie will be on the ballot at the next federal
Speaker 1: election because of all of this national media attention. She
Speaker 1: will no doubt be returned to Parliament. But whether she
Speaker 1: will be able to bring other people with her will
Speaker 1: be fascinating to see. And even if she does, how
Speaker 1: long can she hold on to them? You see, because
Speaker 1: in and around Lonceston and Bernie everything up around the
Speaker 1: north of the state. She is very popular there. I
Speaker 1: remember in the lead up to the twenty nineteen election,
Speaker 1: we did a pub test. Jacque Lamy was falling over
Speaker 1: herself to be my best mate to get on the show.
Speaker 1: She was falling over herself to talk about issues like
Speaker 1: veterans affairs, but it became really difficult to get her
Speaker 1: on the show after that election had taken place. So again,
Speaker 1: she's a smart politician who is willing to use any
Speaker 1: in every camera, any in every microphone she can. But
Speaker 1: the idea that she is a hardcore this or a
Speaker 1: hard core that is not really true. She's a hardcore
Speaker 1: all about her, which makes her just like every other politician.
Speaker 1: But she does have a different perspective, a different style.
Speaker 1: But she's like every other politician. The whole point of
Speaker 1: politics is to stay in politics. You stay in politics,
Speaker 1: there's a pretty penny in it. You remain a household name,
Speaker 1: and you're able to spread your wings and get other
Speaker 1: people to run with you as if you are part
Speaker 1: of a political movement. She's apparently planning to run candidates
Speaker 1: all around the country at the next federal election. Who
Speaker 1: will be donating, who will be helping with their preferences. Well, again,
Speaker 1: this will be fascinating to see. But in the state
Speaker 1: election that took place this year. As we told you,
Speaker 1: Jackie Lamby and the network was able to get not
Speaker 1: one or two, but three people into the lower House.
Speaker 1: And the Liberal Party was not able to get a majority.
Speaker 1: That's fine, that's the way the people speak. This is
Speaker 1: despite the fact that by their own admission before the
Speaker 1: Tasmanian election that Jackie Lamby Network had zero policies.
Speaker 4: So definitely with the Lambia netgroup, it's all about values.
Speaker 4: So we haven't already got predecided policies or specific areas
Speaker 4: and that's to me, that's true democracy here. We are
Speaker 4: representing the people.
Speaker 1: Now. The way that these MPs worked was that because
Speaker 1: Labor was not in a position to be able to
Speaker 1: form any sort of a government in Tasmania, the Lamby
Speaker 1: MP's kind of had to vote with the government, which
Speaker 1: meant they had to look them in the eye and
Speaker 1: do some sort of a deal, not to power share
Speaker 1: in the government, but basically to have the three votes
Speaker 1: that could topple the government at any time, which is
Speaker 1: why when they did the deal with the Premiere it
Speaker 1: was set up to fail. Why because at its very
Speaker 1: hard the Lamby Network, in Lamby in particular, doesn't want
Speaker 1: to have to come up with ideas. They only want
Speaker 1: to criticize everyone else's. They want to lick the finger
Speaker 1: and work out what's popular and what's not popular, because
Speaker 1: whatever's not popular you end up championing because the media
Speaker 1: will then follow you as the champion of the thing
Speaker 1: that isn't popular. Therefore you're the one who's the battering
Speaker 1: ram against the government. And people say, oh, I like Jackie.
Speaker 1: She tells the truth. Now, no doubt she'll that that
Speaker 1: Harry hits with me talking about all of this. But
Speaker 1: this is just her form. She may we'll move into
Speaker 1: one of those people who believes we have to angel
Speaker 1: laws to shut down stations like this, but this is
Speaker 1: just the reality. She couldn't hold her onto her own
Speaker 1: senator in Canberra, and now she can't hold onto her
Speaker 1: own MPs. Apparently she made the decision to bounce a
Speaker 1: couple of these existing MPs from the Jackie Lamby Network,
Speaker 1: meaning they are now formally independence. They go off, they
Speaker 1: do their own deal with the government that I would
Speaker 1: imagine we'll probably go for the full three years rather
Speaker 1: than the twelve month deal, which is all about trying
Speaker 1: to get to an election sooner rather than later because
Speaker 1: when the Lamby network pulls, they pulls the pin. They
Speaker 1: would do it at a time of their own political success. Interestingly, though,
Speaker 1: the other reporting though, is that the people who used
Speaker 1: to be in the Jackie Lamby network, two of those
Speaker 1: three MP's have said the reason they got out of
Speaker 1: the way was because they don't want her over their shoulder.
Speaker 1: And guess who one of the people is who got
Speaker 1: the ass from the Jackie Lamby network. The very lady
Speaker 1: who was this pro lambigu going into the Tasmanian election.
Speaker 1: The same lady who kind of quietly admitted they have
Speaker 1: no policies. But this is a woman who was all
Speaker 1: in on Jackie.
Speaker 4: She'll come down and she'll spend a couple of hours
Speaker 4: with us, waving flag at the end of her wrong day.
Speaker 4: It's like looking with the celebrity.
Speaker 1: Have the amounted people.
Speaker 4: To come over and go, oh, can I have a vote?
Speaker 4: All right, that's good for you. Well, I get to
Speaker 4: be a photographer for a day.
Speaker 1: I don't know if from a bar of soap, don't
Speaker 1: know what she's like behind the scenes, but when she
Speaker 1: was that enthusiastic before the election, she becomes one of
Speaker 1: three after the election, and then she gets booted because
Speaker 1: she's too close to the government, whatever that means. They
Speaker 1: are the government, you want to work with them to
Speaker 1: get things for your community, or maybe these people have
Speaker 1: just got it all the wrong way around. Delivering for
Speaker 1: the community is not the point. Blowing up about the
Speaker 1: government is the point, because then you get a run
Speaker 1: on the TV, and the more runs on the TV,
Speaker 1: the more votes you get, and round and round it
Speaker 1: goes again. Jackie Lamby is a very talented politician, very talented,
Speaker 1: no question about it. Her capacity to be able to
Speaker 1: push back on everything that I've just told you is immense.
Speaker 1: It's as big as any major party leader, as any
Speaker 1: national figure. And again she'd be very annoyed at what
Speaker 1: I've had to say here. But can someone somewhere in
Speaker 1: the world of Canberra start trying to work out why
Speaker 1: did she lose her senator? Why has she lost her
Speaker 1: state MPs? I think we all know potentially what the
Speaker 1: answer may be, but we'll all have to wait and
Speaker 1: read it somewhere eventually maybe or will everyone stay away
Speaker 1: from it because they don't want to get in a
Speaker 1: bad side. And she's just such good talent because she's
Speaker 1: had in the Middle East that are happening as we
Speaker 1: speak now, as we know, Iran most likely expected to
Speaker 1: respond to Israel, which of course was responding. You know,
Speaker 1: let's not play that game, but the expectations were that
Speaker 1: things we get pretty full on out of Lebanon. Now,
Speaker 1: if Lebanon and Israel went to war, it is a
Speaker 1: much bigger, much more complicated scenario than what's playing out
Speaker 1: in Gaza as we speak. Hezbollah, who is the organization
Speaker 1: in Lebanon, while a lot of their planes have been
Speaker 1: blown up tonight, why because Israel is trying to remove
Speaker 1: the capacity of that force to be able to fly
Speaker 1: in or near Israel in the middle of a war.
Speaker 1: Watch this space. This one looks like it's going to
Speaker 1: get deeper, going to get darker, going to get harder.
Speaker 1: There are a couple hundred thousand Australians that are in
Speaker 1: and around Lebanon. Of course, there are many Australians that
Speaker 1: are everywhere from the West Bank to Gaza and plenty
Speaker 1: in between. Reach out to as many people as you
Speaker 1: can tonight and tell them if they can get out
Speaker 1: of dodge, who knows what's going to happen in the
Speaker 1: next little while And finally on American politics before we
Speaker 1: get a great conversation looking into all matters to do
Speaker 1: with news here at home and abroad. We thought it
Speaker 1: was happening, and it happened. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Has
Speaker 1: decided to suspend his own presidential campaign. He's now fully endorsed,
Speaker 1: and he is behind Trump, not off to the side,
Speaker 1: He's literally on stage with him. And whoever bought the firecrackers,
Speaker 1: well done. Nice piece of theater for everyone to see.
Speaker 1: As these two people who are equally very inside, but
Speaker 1: their opinions, their brand, their opinion is very outsider. These
Speaker 1: two blokes together are going to really make the establishment frightened,
Speaker 1: which of course is why that we referred to as
Speaker 1: nutters every day between now and the election recair.
Speaker 5: Great causes drove me to an to this race in
Speaker 5: the first place, primarily, and these are the principal causes
Speaker 5: that persuaded me to leave the Democratic Democratic Party and
Speaker 5: run as an independent and now to throw my support
Speaker 5: a President Trump. The causes were a free speech warrant,
Speaker 5: Ukraine war and.
Speaker 1: No children Now again, many of the videos you've abill
Speaker 1: see on YouTube a people calling him a freak and
Speaker 1: all the rest of it, and there's so much that
Speaker 1: I do not agree with in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 1: But the stuff that he talks about when it comes
Speaker 1: to chronic disease is really interesting. The idea about how
Speaker 1: sick America is now, how and why. Again, we all
Speaker 1: may differ, but that's something that I want to talk about.
Speaker 1: We just had a week of Kamala Harris being celebrated
Speaker 1: for Obama in a pantsuit, and that's it. No idea
Speaker 1: is no policy, is just rah Rashi's not him. Now,
Speaker 1: RFK had sizeable support in many of the seven swing
Speaker 1: states that will decide the election. Now, most of his support,
Speaker 1: which was the Democratic support, meant that his numbers were
Speaker 1: higher before Biden dropped out, which means most of the Dems,
Speaker 1: if not all of them, have gone back. And some
Speaker 1: of these people, of course, they'll just set it out
Speaker 1: no interest whatsoever. I'm not going to vote for that
Speaker 1: evil Trump. But let's imagine half of these people do
Speaker 1: it changes things. It would mean that Trump wins Arizona, Georgia.
Speaker 1: It means that Michigan would become very competitive. Nevada, Trump
Speaker 1: would be able to put it away. He'd be able
Speaker 1: to easily win North Carolina, he'd be able very close,
Speaker 1: if not win Pennsylvania. And if Trump wins Nevada, Arizona Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: game over. That's why this is so big, and that's
Speaker 1: why we will talk about it plenty more between now
Speaker 1: and when we're done tonight, and many days between now
Speaker 1: and November. In the meantime, we stand by on this
Speaker 1: the twenty fifth of August to find out when Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris will actually do an interview before the end of
Speaker 1: the month. We're in a secure on Paulmurray life. Thanks
Speaker 1: so much for watching wherever you happen to be, love
Speaker 1: to talk to you about any and everything. But let's
Speaker 1: talk again tee politics and what it really means next.
Speaker 1: Thanks very much for watching. Lida Scott is here wherever
Speaker 1: you You could do that during the break, you know, guys.
Speaker 1: Now let's get to Lida Scott, who was of course here.
Speaker 1: She's just got a couple of weeks left there at
Speaker 1: City Citdney Council and then she can do whatever she
Speaker 1: wants with the life, which I'm sure will be deep,
Speaker 1: rewarding and reaching all the rest of it. And of
Speaker 1: course Christian McSweeney are joining us from the pr Council.
Speaker 1: She is in Melbourne right now. Lots to talk about
Speaker 1: with both of you. Let's go back to the top here.
Speaker 1: Northern Territory election and what it means now I get it.
Speaker 1: It is there are not a lot of federal seats there.
Speaker 1: In fact, there are only two, so if there has
Speaker 1: been some seismic move from red to blue or the
Speaker 1: best case scenario would be two at the next federal election.
Speaker 1: But Christie, I think something that is buried inside of
Speaker 1: all of this is that there is only so long
Speaker 1: that people will cop this. These aren't the droids you're
Speaker 1: looking for style of politics which is often played on
Speaker 1: the left. Oh there's no crime crisis here, or here's
Speaker 1: the stats which say it's not really as bad as
Speaker 1: it seems, or things like let's raise the age of
Speaker 1: criminal responsibility. That doesn't make the crime go away, It
Speaker 1: just makes who's responsible for it go away. And I
Speaker 1: think that is the lesson out of what's happened here.
Speaker 1: Crime is obviously not a federal responsibility, but gas lighting
Speaker 1: an electorate is not the way to win them over,
Speaker 1: which is exactly what int Labor did.
Speaker 6: You're certainly right, Paul. The number one issue there was crime,
Speaker 6: but there's a lot of other issues. To win an
Speaker 6: election in the territory, you have to win the north
Speaker 6: and the outback, and the CLP has won six seats
Speaker 6: north of what they call the Behrama line, which is
Speaker 6: a dividing line, and people north of that line where
Speaker 6: the CLP has hit those six seats to produce a
Speaker 6: swing over around eighteen to twenty percent on current votes
Speaker 6: coming in means that some of the more affluent voters
Speaker 6: in the territory have voted for the CLP. They've also
Speaker 6: won the public service sectors of Catherine and Alice Springs.
Speaker 6: That's very significant and part of the reason why was
Speaker 6: because voters have overwhelmingly supported the Strategic Gas Plan, which
Speaker 6: is opening up of the Betterloo base, which is economic
Speaker 6: investment into the territory, which is jobs, which is clawing
Speaker 6: back some of the eleven billion dollars in debt the territory.
Speaker 6: It is in that's been voted for by Coalition voters
Speaker 6: and by Labor voters, and it indicates that labor continues
Speaker 6: to be between a rock and a hard place, negotiating
Speaker 6: with greeds and trying to prove their green credentials. And
Speaker 6: this is a state that traditionally has voted labor. They're
Speaker 6: now losing seats with a contest between Greens and the
Speaker 6: Coalition in inner city seats, seats like Fanny Bay. The
Speaker 6: Coalition hasn't won it since nineteen ninety four. It's the
Speaker 6: most affluent seat in inner city Darwin and they're on
Speaker 6: a knife edge with the colp between the Greens. Labor
Speaker 6: is out of the picture. Territorians have not voted for
Speaker 6: what they are selling, which is an anti mining and Leah,
Speaker 6: she can go to camber Down and have an ally
Speaker 6: in Roger Cook who continues to tell the Albanese government
Speaker 6: to shelf this anti mining nature. Positive agender, excellent.
Speaker 1: I loved all that data. Well done, Linda. I think
Speaker 1: another thing worth mentioning here is that this Labor Greens
Speaker 1: battle right now, there are some disgraceful decisions which are
Speaker 1: happening in Queensland where we're starting to read about the
Speaker 1: Liberal Party preferencing the Greens over labor. That's madness. I
Speaker 1: think that the Liberal parties are finding any way to
Speaker 1: get Greens in just as a way of punishing labor.
Speaker 1: You don't know what you're unleashing. Right. Conversely, labor backing
Speaker 1: in Teals, not the Liberal Party. Same issue here, the
Speaker 1: idea that the Greens are now popping up in Darwin.
Speaker 1: We know they're in Brisbane, we know they're in Melbourne.
Speaker 1: We know that. Literally it's Plebisek and albanezy as the
Speaker 1: reasons why there's not a change in Sydney. But this
Speaker 1: is in the same way that the Teals are. This
Speaker 1: is a mathematical problem, isn't it for labor.
Speaker 7: Look, it is the case as has been said that
Speaker 7: in the Northern Territory election it was a classic example
Speaker 7: of labor getting squeezed from the left and squeezed from
Speaker 7: the righte I do think, and you know, full congratulations
Speaker 7: to Leah and the coorpteam. They won a resounding result
Speaker 7: on Saturday and you know they will clearly form government
Speaker 7: in their own right. But to your question Paul about
Speaker 7: the Greens, I think it is really an interesting national trend.
Speaker 7: We are seeing them campaigning on different issues around the country.
Speaker 7: You know, in Sydney and Melbourne they're only talking about Palestine.
Speaker 7: In Queensland they're only talking about housing. So they're specialist
Speaker 7: at one single issue. But the single issue does change
Speaker 7: around the nation and it is it is right to
Speaker 7: call out that it is squeezing labor. But when you
Speaker 7: start to see what is happening in Brisbane, where it's
Speaker 7: been revealed just recently that it looks like the LNP
Speaker 7: leader there, David Christoph Wooley, has agreed to a preference
Speaker 7: deal with the Greens for those inner city Brisbane seats
Speaker 7: for the upcoming Queensland election, you have to call into
Speaker 7: question what the Liberals do stand for. You have to
Speaker 7: call into question whether Peter Dutton is going to allow
Speaker 7: this kind of a preference arrangement to go ahead completely
Speaker 7: in defiance of presumably Liberal Party value.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look, I lose my brain about this
Speaker 1: all of the time, Christy, because I mean, we know
Speaker 1: what they're like once they actually get there, we know
Speaker 1: what their plan is, and we know that basically, you know,
Speaker 1: like pac Man or MS Pacman or they Pacman, they're
Speaker 1: going to sort of chew up all they can between
Speaker 1: now and then until eventually you know, they've they've cleared
Speaker 1: the board to push the metaphor from a long time ago.
Speaker 1: I just think the Liberal Party playing any games, who
Speaker 1: knows what they get in return? Right, and maybe in
Speaker 1: return there's preferences in certain swing seats, but I would
Speaker 1: prefer Labor and the Liberal Party to be getting together
Speaker 1: to kill off Teals and kill off Greens. Otherwise we're
Speaker 1: going to end up with this sort of massive minority
Speaker 1: party parliaments at the state and federal level, and they
Speaker 1: are not going to produce better results. They will only
Speaker 1: produce more results to the left.
Speaker 6: Look, the rise of minor parties in single issue independent
Speaker 6: is not going anywhere. It continues to track upwards. The
Speaker 6: Greens vote at the twenty twenty two election was twelve
Speaker 6: percent and in some areas you know we've mentioned Brisbane
Speaker 6: in some electorates is extremely high twenty four percent. Seats
Speaker 6: in Melbourne are on a knife edge with the Greens
Speaker 6: looking to not preference Labor so they can win those seats.
Speaker 6: Out right, in a way, the divorce is well and
Speaker 6: truly happening, and a separation of those assets, with the
Speaker 6: Greens to say where out to take these and Labor
Speaker 6: if you want to keep them, you have to Outgreen us,
Speaker 6: which is essentially what Labor is doing. And as we've said,
Speaker 6: Labor has been wedged from the left. The coalition, though,
Speaker 6: will say, is in a position where Greens twelve percent
Speaker 6: on a national average means it has to lift its
Speaker 6: primary to equal that twelve percent and overcome it. Or
Speaker 6: say the Greens aren't going to preference labor at the
Speaker 6: federal election and say ten target seats. That's still sort
Speaker 6: of sick or seven percent that the coalition has to
Speaker 6: lift to overcome the fact they don't have a preference
Speaker 6: preference partner on the right side. The reality is they do,
Speaker 6: which is one nation, But people refuse to come to
Speaker 6: a position where it's actually not bad to preference them
Speaker 6: in some elector.
Speaker 1: Of course, of course, because you know, forgive me, but
Speaker 1: many lives in Melbourne freak out about preference deals with
Speaker 1: one nation because they play differently in the way the
Speaker 1: media plays again, you know, first past the post. I'd
Speaker 1: be happy with that system. If you have to have
Speaker 1: a preference system at some point, you have to rank
Speaker 1: people a preference discipline. As I've said before, twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: United Australia Party one nation pretty much the majority of
Speaker 1: the preferences or dare I say sort of you know,
Speaker 1: say sixty forty go to the coalition they win an election,
Speaker 1: flips the other way around. Guess what happens, you end
Speaker 1: up with where we are right now. Remember Labor did
Speaker 1: win ninety seats. They won seventy seven of the last
Speaker 1: election and then chuck another one in and they get
Speaker 1: the seventy eight. You need only seventy six to get
Speaker 1: across hardly Howard Rudd or Abbot style backbenches. Now let's
Speaker 1: talk about that. The right to disconnect stuff kicks in tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I have been listening to some people trying to pretend
Speaker 1: this means you cannot, under any circumstances send a text
Speaker 1: affter five o'clock. You actually can. The whole point is
Speaker 1: it's that you don't call twenty five times afterwards at seven, eight,
Speaker 1: nine and ten. That's who is going to be punished
Speaker 1: by this law. But if the perception is you can't
Speaker 1: send a text affter five o'clock, what does that mean
Speaker 1: for the Australian workforce?
Speaker 7: Linda, Well, look, this is just about Australian workers, you know, police, nurses, teachers,
Speaker 7: asking for the right and being granted the right to
Speaker 7: be able to expect that once you leave work and
Speaker 7: stop getting paid, you don't get lots of calls and
Speaker 7: continue to be asked for work. And I think that's
Speaker 7: a really reasonable expectation pre mobile phones, Paul Murray, because
Speaker 7: you know we're so old we do remember those days.
Speaker 1: You can go around the corner and talk to your mate.
Speaker 7: It wasn't really an issue, right, and so it is.
Speaker 7: It is an issue that is linkeding technology. But I
Speaker 7: just think it's completely reasonable. And of course if you
Speaker 7: need to make you know, a phone call, and you're
Speaker 7: paying somebody over time, or you're recognizing somehow in their
Speaker 7: employment conditions that they're on call, that that is a
Speaker 7: very reasonable thing to do. People get rosted as nurses
Speaker 7: being on call. But what this is, and you know,
Speaker 7: my children are in beautiful public schools. It's not okay
Speaker 7: for people to be able to call teachers six seven,
Speaker 7: eight o'clock at night. We spell email them expect them
Speaker 7: to have answered by the next morning. You know, it
Speaker 7: is reasonable that people are asking for this rise.
Speaker 1: But also you know, CHRISTI, to me, it's about the
Speaker 1: government trying to say where the line is. Right now,
Speaker 1: we know that the line where the law gets involved
Speaker 1: and you're going to go after Fair Work Commission and
Speaker 1: you're going to get a fine is again multiple contacts outside.
Speaker 1: It is not about a singular example, if somebody does
Speaker 1: get one text at six fifteen and then they decided
Speaker 1: to challenge it off to the Fair Work Commission. We'll
Speaker 1: all wait and see. But do you think the government
Speaker 1: has been clear enough in saying what are the reasonable
Speaker 1: interactions versus are hard shut off when you say tadah
Speaker 1: at the end of a day.
Speaker 6: No, I don't think they have. And the reason why
Speaker 6: they haven't is because it's been a legislation that was
Speaker 6: hurried through the Parliament designed to satisfy the union agenda.
Speaker 6: It's part of the amendments to the Fair Work Act.
Speaker 6: They went through in two chrances of the legislation with
Speaker 6: Tony Burke very quickly so they could deliver the ACTU
Speaker 6: agenda Holess Bowlers. There are something like eleven and a
Speaker 6: half million employees in Australia. Only twelve percent of them
Speaker 6: are members of the union. This is legislation designed for
Speaker 6: the union and that's why we don't hear about how
Speaker 6: it's going to affect anybody else except for teachers and
Speaker 6: police officers, because that outside of those twelve percent of
Speaker 6: people in Australia who are in a union and who
Speaker 6: like to have those union awards set out for them,
Speaker 6: and that's a good thing that people have clarity in
Speaker 6: those sectors. However, the rest of Australia has little clarity.
Speaker 6: And don't forget the Coalition had to water it down
Speaker 6: and expose a loophole that demonstrated that employers could actually
Speaker 6: face criminal penalty in the rest of the Australian business community.
Speaker 6: I couldn't run a business in what I do, and
Speaker 6: you can't be a political staffer either if you're turning
Speaker 6: up to fair work saying I got a text from
Speaker 6: the Industrial re litionce Minister at five point fifteen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well tell me about it. I'll be preparing for
Speaker 1: a show while midair between the East Coast and the
Speaker 1: West Coast later this week as we hit our way
Speaker 1: towards Western Australia, looking forward to our town next weekend.
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Speaker 1: hit us up. Let's take a quick break. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about Queen Kamala. A barmer in a pants suit or
Speaker 1: an empty pantsuit or in a seat. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Fortune wherever you happen to be. We will get to
Speaker 1: a bold prediction at a moment or two is time. But
Speaker 1: how can I not ask Kristy McSweeney All Linda's got
Speaker 1: their thoughts on Queen Kamala Harris. Now, Christy, I want
Speaker 1: to talk about some of the language that was in
Speaker 1: and around the DNC and most people watching us now. Firstly,
Speaker 1: this stuff happens in the middle of the day. They
Speaker 1: have busy lives, and it is another country, so they're
Speaker 1: not going to pay attention to every word. But literally
Speaker 1: of what very little is on the table, it was
Speaker 1: I will fight for this and I will fight for that,
Speaker 1: which I noticed is not a promise to actually deliver
Speaker 1: any of it. That said, no interviews, Media loves her
Speaker 1: should be sort of carried on the backs of many
Speaker 1: between now and the debate. What do you think of
Speaker 1: how this works and do you think that the RFK
Speaker 1: of it all does numerically put Trump back on top.
Speaker 6: I think the RFK inclusion into the Trump campaign has
Speaker 6: short up people who were probably leaning towards Trump anyway.
Speaker 6: They're sort of the Clive Palmer voters of America. They're
Speaker 6: people who are vehemently against vaccination and various other issues
Speaker 6: that sort of sit out there a little bit on
Speaker 6: the fringe. That's not to say if you believe in that,
Speaker 6: you're on the fringe, but that is an issue that
Speaker 6: they see of significant importance. So all it does is
Speaker 6: move people who would lean towards him anyway and give
Speaker 6: them a pathway to say, well, we're now going to
Speaker 6: fully back Donald Trump. They're not Democrat voters anyway. But
Speaker 6: Kamala Harris ignoring the media, it's obviously a strategy. It's
Speaker 6: obviously a tactic. It's bad for democracy that we have
Speaker 6: two candidates in the running to lead the free world
Speaker 6: who ignore the mainstream press and prefer to do interviews
Speaker 6: on social media.
Speaker 1: I mean, the.
Speaker 6: Only interviewer she's done is interviewing Tim wat and he
Speaker 6: interviewing her. That's supposed to be the big interview the
Speaker 6: convention timing that's just ridiculous. It's really poor in terms
Speaker 6: of what the Democrats are seeking to do to build
Speaker 6: her up. But they're used to having election campaigns that
Speaker 6: go for two years. They don't understand this ninety day
Speaker 6: model like we do here in Australia.
Speaker 1: Well, dare I say the policy or ideas one, Linda,
Speaker 1: you would have had put form much more detail running
Speaker 1: for local government than they are. You know, when it
Speaker 1: comes to the American politics, I've got literally sixty seconds
Speaker 1: your thoughts on it and the past week and the.
Speaker 7: I still think it's a really open election. It's going
Speaker 7: to be just such fascinating watching. I think Kamale has
Speaker 7: had a great convention, but that doesn't mean she's going
Speaker 7: to win. But the Trump demographic change I think is
Speaker 7: still just not talked about enough. You know, the teams
Speaker 7: does have endorsed Trump RFK. I mean, these are really
Speaker 7: significant demographic changes. The Democrats are targeting, you know, ethnic minorities,
Speaker 7: people of color. It's changed. It's a really different America.
Speaker 7: It's going to be a different election. I still think
Speaker 7: it's very up for grabs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just think that, you know, I get
Speaker 1: it the people who are in charge of this stuff
Speaker 1: of New York and Los Angeles and DC, right, but
Speaker 1: that ain't where they've got to win. They've got to
Speaker 1: win lots of other places, and that's where they think
Speaker 1: people like you know, you've got to listen to some
Speaker 1: of these local senators that are obviously.
Speaker 7: Into the MAZ You know they always the mas correct.
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